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Can you do a video on fuel line too (if you haven't already)? There's much ado about the clear lines versus the black rubber fuel lines and their durability. Seems most fuel line regardless of composition hardens after use, becomes brittle and becomes a hassle.
I’m still occasionally pushing a Briggs and Stratton that’s probably older than you, but you’re a Honda fanboy, same motor for every application, generator, push mower, or your crappy civic with the fart can on the back that makes all that noise and you still can’t put accelerate that 28 year old F150 with the 5.4 that has 3 dead cylinders and won’t downshift into first. I get it, it’s so easy to throw away that Honda crap and replace it with a cheap far superior engine from Harbor Freight and forget about it and Briggs runs too long to make a small engine shop any money so talk shit about the Briggs. Honestly your channel pops up in alt accounts and I done forgot why I don’t watch you then you remind me I have to sift through decades of failed dad joke attempts to get anything out of the video IF I can let it run that long. I’m saying your idea of comedy is unappealing to me. You know it’s not carbudator but you keep on with it because your niece giggled once at it 15 years ago. Don’t change for me but when you watch those metrics praying they increase in your favor understand some of us don’t care for the wasteful filler and already k ow the answer to the question you titled the video after and we go away knowing that you meant to mislead us into clicking for even one view. Does Chichanic do all that? Or that weird Canadian guy who’s always DEI king terrible yuppie “beers”? No. They immediately get into the topic of the title and they present it and their take and why that’s their take on occasion. Do you even small engine at all? Yes your daily driver is some teenagers crappy old 93 civic hatchback with a wannabe predator engine that makes half the torque and power and burns 7 times the fuel and because of the $120 “performance exhaust kit” it makes 3 times the legal limit of racket while achieving top speeds in the neighborhood of 35-55 MPH.
I opened one of those little pancake filters and found 6 full grown red wasps in it. How they got in the tank and into the filter is beyond me. Bugs are notorious for being in places they should never get into. You go Taryl, appreciate all the info you are willing to share with the public. After 22 years, die to health issues, I had to close my small engine repair shop, but I learned a lot from watching your videos.. Thanks again!!
@@davidduma7615 the filter was in a sealed bag and I put it on the unit originally, then 6 months later it would not allow fuel to come through. That is when I found it.
I want to thank you for establishing a separate channel for your skits. I hope you keep them out of your main channel videos. I like the way you explain in detail what you are doing when you repair small engines. I am retired and tinker a bit with lawn mowers and chain saws for folks in my little town. I have found your videos to be invaluable. I referred to one on Tuff Torq transmission repair. Having never even seen one off a mower, I was able to successfully repair one for a friend thanks to your video.
Taryl, I think the main reason for the paper element filters being directional is because if the fuel enterers the center of filter there is not near as much filter media exposed for filtering thus reducing the overall capacity of the filter. Not near as much filter surface area if its plumbed backwards. I'm thinking that came from my father years ago that was a mechanic all his life. I just thought I would share my father's opinion. Keep the videos coming! I watch them all!
Bought a 10 pack of the paper filters off of flea bay and was really happy until about 6 months later when all the paper elements started falling off of the plastic housing, rattling around inside the filter letting all the junk pass through straight into the carb…
I like those little Briggs filters with the stainless steel screen over any of the paper ones. If your mower does not have a fuel pump do not use a paper element filter because they can be to restrictive to gravity feed. If you get a tiny bit of water in your fuel with a 50+ micron paper element filter installed, the water will actually coat and clog the paper element up. Water is almost twice as thick as Gasoline is. Gasoline density is 0.6 g/mL and water density 1.0 g/mL.
I just got my aux tank in so I can adjust my motorcycle carbs. This should let me find out if my green machines pump is the problem with a little gravity flow to carb.
I love the fact that even after years and years this dude sticks to the teeth bit to this day. Respect Best and most helpful small engine channel on RUclips.
Great job!! I found a beautiful push/SP mower on the trash with a few repair tickets on it. It just wouldnt start. I found that the built in screen must have been clogged with "fines" or bacteria. I washed it out with soap/water pressure. The shop/s missed that one. It worked great after that !!
Great video Taryl. The one we like the best is the Rotary 10352. It does a great job and works on gravity feed fuel systems and systems with fuel pumps.
Morning Tayrl, I use the 30 micron like the 30 micron you have on your bench. The only difference is the ones I buy are clear. I buy them from my John Deere dealer for about $8.00 can. Keep up the videos I have learned things I did not know before. Thanks
Great analysis of fuel filters ! I had a couple of Uncle's that always kept their fuel funnel in a plastic bag after they used it. I usually just wipe mine out with a dirty rag. 😆👍👍
I like the Briggs and Stratton white 75 micro pancake types. They’ll be great for many years. No paper to go bad. I use these when I install new fuel lines or replace carburetors. I enjoy helping my neighbors or family members.
@tarylfixesall Yo Tim, Dom from Jersey here....i just hit you up last weekend about the blower's, single, carb adjustment. I'll now remember FOR THE REST of my life the high-speed screw is closest to the engine thanks to you! Watching tis video made me learn more about fuel filter used on small equipment. Fantastic bro! Keep up the great work!
A few year back I had the same problem were the riding mover would run for 20 mins or so then die. Figure out that if I loosen the gas cap the rider it would run fine. I though I venting was bad in the gas cap. Bought a new gas cap and didn't solve the problem. Turns out the NEW gas filter was the problem replaced it and solved the problem. The engine was B&S twin which has a fuel punp. Some how the filter was messing up the venting of the fuel. I think the filter had a small air leak. Taryl I have a idea for a video for you. Also a great thing to offer your customers. I have a Craftsman riding which the adjustmant for the drive belt slipping is buy a new belt. What I did is to add a drive belt adjustment to the rider. Really easy to do all I did was take a chain adjuster from a garage door opener(or you can use a threaded rod or bolt and drill a hole in on end), and a small L braket. Bolt the L braket to the frame(In my case used a existing hole). Bolted the rod to the L bracket and hook the existing drive belt spring to the rod. Just tigthen the belt to the tension you like. I can go up in forward or revise very steep hills now. Only problem is have to let off the brake very slow or will pop a wheelie.
Great video, answered most of the questions concerning small engine fuel filters. I purchase Wix 33003 filters from O'Reilly's. According to them it is a 20 micron filter. The price went way up (30% increase) so I purchased what looked like Wix 33003 filters from Scamazon and noticed within a couple of months n the filters were turning dark. So I replaced them with the Wix 33003's. Lesson learned!
I bought one of the amazon carb-a-trator kits for a neighbors old tecumseh mower and it had a red pancake filter included, but looking through it it looked empty. So I cracked it open and it was just an empty plastic housing, no screen at all inside. Oh and the included "fuel" line was the wrong size for the carb nipple and felt and looked more like shrink wrap.
The red ones at least, can be infinitely blown out (to clean them) with an air gun in the opposite direction of flow. I have one on a mower that has never been replaced in 20+ years because it is easier to clean it and it's not really a wear item like the paper element ones. You can see through the red ones as it is just a mesh screen. It has never sprung a leak either, it is a very durable little piece probably made too well for its own good.
Only problem with the red ones is the mesh size on the screen is absolutely huge and seems way larger than the 150 micron rating. Good for flow, not so good for trapping debris.
@@johnnorris1227 Correct, the red one is practically uselles, you can see through the mesh. I have the white filter on a gravity-fed mower and it works fine.
Taryl Informative video as are all your videos! Thank you!!! That Kohler that died after 30 mins. I had the same issue. In my case it Turns out the filter that doesn’t work was exclusively intended for a fuel pump style system. It did not work with gravity feed. It barely would dribble fuel through it. So I went to the Non Fuel pump kohler filter and all was good. Great flow.
The thing is about fuel filters is that often they are just doing their job. The mistake I think Taryl is making here is that some filters (OEM Krohler) are bad. Well assuming the gas is actually clean out of the pump at the station is not always correct. My own personal stuff ends up clogged up, and my red 5 gallon cans end up with some junk in the bottom. After a few uses. I keep stuff clean, but the fuel we buy has been in a lot of tanks, pipes, tankers, delivery tankers, you get the idea. The Shamazon filters breaking down is a real thing, thanks Taryl! Use filters which work. My favorite filters are the Breaks&Scrap'em 75 micron pancake. They work, and they are cheap. On my big equipment, I use a spin-on fuel/water separator from Parker R12T. Small Diesel tractor and my classic 59 Ford.
Thank you for making this video with all the details. I am having the same challenge that your customer is having where the mower runs for a while and then shuts off. I just did a service of the mower and put new filter on it and now it runs and then shuts off after cutting grass for a while. I looked at the new fuel and it is looking like that the one you showed that is falling apart on the inside. I do not know if this will solve my situation yet, but this is very detailed and impacting information. I had not paid any attention to fuel filters fot the lawn mower till now. Thanks again.
Taryl, Thank you. As veteran that has just gotten into starting a small engine repair service, I appreciate all the knowledge you share and consider you a mentor. You have tremendously helped me out, making me quickly become a knowledgeable grass rat in the local business, even repairing what other shops couldn't. I was just wondering today about the difference in the fuel filters.
Hello Taryl & GrassRats; The three and early four digit Cub Cadets with the Kohler KT17 engines had the reed looking filter that is incorporated within the fuel shut off that sticks upwards into the fuel tank through the rubber tank grommet. My bad experience with this type of filter was that I lost fuel flow in which I discovered that the filter had collapsed and folded itself over cutting off the fuel flow. So, I ordered the fuel shut off valve that did not have the reed type filter being that I commonly use the external filters anyway. The “Quiet Line” series of Cub Cadets had the heavy side covers which makes it somewhat difficult to easily access the fuel cut off and fuel line leading to the fuel pump which I guess that Cub Cadet decided to utilize this type of fuel filter. Upon removal of my carburetor, I found very fine grit like sand that was within the carburetor bowl. I am planning on replacing the mechanical type fuel pump with a pulse type fuel pump similar to one of Taryls previous videos except I have a Mikuni metallic pump that I want to try. A great comparison would be the plastic type of pulse fuel pump vs the metallic pulse type fuel pump. Like the fuel filters, There’s also issues with the knockoff fuel pumps being very sub par.
For my chain saws I like the ceramic filters. I use the Briggs reversible filters on small equipment, and the larger filters with fluted elements on my riding stock.
Thanks buddy. I was just getting ready to order some fuel filters for various projects. This is very useful information. Now I can have my dinner and eat it too. :)
Those "crappy ones" you pointed out, they also tend to break off in the fuel hose when you goto change them, so we got rid of them with the quikness. We had the stens brand. We only use the 7998, those briggs red ones and the Kohler efi filters. No issues with those 3.
Great video. Thanks, Taryl. Clean gas may be the best solution, but... I have an engine with EFI, and I AM going to use a filter. Clogged injectors are MUCH harder to fix than clogged carbs. The question is, how do I find the best filter? Many of us don't have the option of ordering from Stens.
Good video and info as always. Don't have a favorite but as you say keep clean fuel. Helps a lot. Also watch for rust dust from rusty gas cans or rusty tank.
Helpful video. I think my 1974 Briggs and Scrappem tractor has an in tank filter. How the heck would you clean it? Seems like you would have to replace the tank. I got that tractor in 2001, and it will be running long after I am gone. 10hp cast iron.
Wow! One thing I can say as a subscriber is that I take away so much info from your videos. Plus... your humor makes them interesting as well. Great job!
I always put the little plastic ones with the mesh towards the "carb be trator". That way, any particles can settle to the bottom of the plastic when not in use. I had not thought about a chainsaw filter getting bad enough to stop the oil from going through. Will change those a bit more often now.
WoW I never knew or heard of micron in fuel filters (you can teach an old dog like me something new everyday 👍)…. I always take the old one off once a year and take it to the auto parts store (Napa) for replacement … I always clean around the gas cap and cans before filling up because I can see dirt, dust, grass and other stuff around it thinking it will get in the engine fuel tank and I will have trouble down the road… That little bit of time goes a long, long way down the road… Keep up the great work !!!
Another great video Taryl, my experience is, that no matter how clean you keep everything, fuel is dirty no matter what kind it is. It all has trash in it, and water from the in ground tanks at the gas station, they all have water and trash.
Thank you Taryl for the informative video! I have a lot of those filters that were included with the Chinese carbs from Amazon.I just threw them out! Ordered Briggs red filters.Better to be safe than sorry.
Another filter you forgot to mention is the screen right inside the hose barb of the carburetor. I've seen this on Powersmart, Powermore and a few other engines. Real head scratcher why the engine runs great no skipping for a few minutes then dies out like it's starving for fuel and then restarts about 5 minutes later. With these I just use a needle to punch through that filter so it's no longer a problem and put on a real fuel filter.
My 1997 Crapsman tractor with a Kroller engine ... gravity fed....is very sensitive to the fuel filter. If you look up the part it says to use one of those Kroller paper filters but it will sputter and stall under heavy load. Just like the story you told at 24:12 while looking at the catalog. I have to use one of those screen filters and it runs ok.
I got a friend a JD LX178 for the princely sum of $50. His Breaks and Scrapum on an MTD had eaten a camshaft. The carb bowl on the chinesium carbureator was full of strange stuff and now I know what it was. Cleaned it out and ran quite well. Thank you. Now to replace the filter.
Thanx for all your videos!!! Great information Some of this stuff u teach I learn hard way 😂 Still learning I wish I got more time to fix may old tractors, tiller and other small engine stuff Thnx once again
I have a couple of generators with a "Sediment Trap" before the carb. Its a deep clear bowl, sediment goes in, loses speed, and sinks to the bottom. Threaded top, like a diesel tank fuel pump. Some have screens/filters, some dont. I have also rigged a few clear fuel lines with loops in them to achieve similar effect. Stay gold.
I remember you saying that the filters with the paper element can deteriorate and clog the carb, so I got a filter for my Kowasucky that has a metal screen. I don't recall it reporting the microns. I am careful about getting dirt in the gas.
Great video again Tarly. Lot of info I never knew about fuel filters. Next do a video on shut off valves for small engines. Keep the vids coming to Pittsburgh Pa. Beachbum98 out. And there's your dinner!!!
Fuel filter before the fuel pump (@14:00)? Something very coarse might be OK, but a fine one that is a regular size has a lot of restriction. Pumps can push a lot better than they can suck because the sucking is limited by atmospheric pressure. So the fine filter belongs after the pump so there is pressure to force the fuel through it. That is the way it is done in everything I can recall. An oil pump on a car has a coarse screen before the pump and a filter after it. Same story for the fuel pump.
I used the black and red filters on my Kawasaki kz 900 chopper .1 filter for 2 carbs on a 4 carb rack . Worked great with the limited space i had to work with.
Teryl a question about fuel filters and carbs . In your opinion, are the old-fashioned fuel filters with a sediment drain and the sintered metal elements, or fine bronze screen any better than the newer cartridge types with a plastic mesh or paper element? I used to have several engines that had the fuel bowel/ filter drain . I'm Moy old fart opinion ( close to being 61 ) it seems like the engines were a lot less finicky than the newer incline filter types. Even taking accout for the " Good old fashioned " leaded gas , not this newfangled " Wonder Gas"
Never had good luck with fleabay or scamazon chineesium parts, the price is right but not if it causes other issues, have just started sticking with OEM when possible, have had better luck all around.
I work on small engine equipment at my home shop occasionally for side work because im in a small town. Society Hill SC. Normally use the red ones but the clear ones are nice. As you said you need a good clean gas container fresh gas. Keep capped and clean. I mean how hard is it to keep fresh gas in a storage container?
I once had an issue (twice from the same batch of gas) where I bought some 100% gas that was contaiminated with water. It blinded over two fuel filters with the paper media. I've since been using those filters with sintered brass material and topping off my tanks using a Mr. Funnel to prefilter the fuel of any junk or water. I haven't had any issues since.
Curious about the correlation between 2 things you said. You mentioned about the pump pushing fuel through the smaller micron filters but you also state to put the filter before the pump. Do pulse pumps create as much pressure pulling fuel from tank as they do pushing to the carb?
I learned along time ago to flush all the tanks in the spring before starting the units for the season. Like you I stopped using the scamazon aftermarket junk. Good video Taryl.
hey taryl i finally used your heat quench trick on a toro 648 aerator for the bearing and it worked thanks for that. my fellow mechanic coworkers where laughing at me but i got the last laugh
What about those 1/8 inch pipe to hose barb metal filters like came on all the older Ford carburetors? I use them on electric fuel shut offs because the will screw right into them and save space too. Is there a 1/8 in pipe to 1/4 in hose barb one? The only one I have ever found have either a 5/16 or 3/8 hose barb.
I bought a 20 yr old Ariens rider that the owner only used maybe 6 times, looks wise in mint shape but hydro locked...a carb kit was $70, so me being cheap bought a KIPA carb on Scamazon and had very good luck with it!
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What's the part number of the opaque fuel filter you use on riding mowers?
Can you do a video on fuel line too (if you haven't already)? There's much ado about the clear lines versus the black rubber fuel lines and their durability. Seems most fuel line regardless of composition hardens after use, becomes brittle and becomes a hassle.
@@douglasforsythe5853 At least give him a fighting chance figuring out which one you mean. Add a time stamp like "00:00"
Hey Tarly I’ve never seen you working on a shindaiwa or even red max do you just don’t see them or they not available in your area
I’m still occasionally pushing a Briggs and Stratton that’s probably older than you, but you’re a Honda fanboy, same motor for every application, generator, push mower, or your crappy civic with the fart can on the back that makes all that noise and you still can’t put accelerate that 28 year old F150 with the 5.4 that has 3 dead cylinders and won’t downshift into first. I get it, it’s so easy to throw away that Honda crap and replace it with a cheap far superior engine from Harbor Freight and forget about it and Briggs runs too long to make a small engine shop any money so talk shit about the Briggs. Honestly your channel pops up in alt accounts and I done forgot why I don’t watch you then you remind me I have to sift through decades of failed dad joke attempts to get anything out of the video IF I can let it run that long. I’m saying your idea of comedy is unappealing to me. You know it’s not carbudator but you keep on with it because your niece giggled once at it 15 years ago. Don’t change for me but when you watch those metrics praying they increase in your favor understand some of us don’t care for the wasteful filler and already k ow the answer to the question you titled the video after and we go away knowing that you meant to mislead us into clicking for even one view. Does Chichanic do all that? Or that weird Canadian guy who’s always DEI king terrible yuppie “beers”? No. They immediately get into the topic of the title and they present it and their take and why that’s their take on occasion. Do you even small engine at all? Yes your daily driver is some teenagers crappy old 93 civic hatchback with a wannabe predator engine that makes half the torque and power and burns 7 times the fuel and because of the $120 “performance exhaust kit” it makes 3 times the legal limit of racket while achieving top speeds in the neighborhood of 35-55 MPH.
I opened one of those little pancake filters and found 6 full grown red wasps in it. How they got in the tank and into the filter is beyond me. Bugs are notorious for being in places they should never get into. You go Taryl, appreciate all the info you are willing to share with the public. After 22 years, die to health issues, I had to close my small engine repair shop, but I learned a lot from watching your videos.. Thanks again!!
Keep working..I am in similar situation.
Stay busy .
Be well.
More likely they got in the filter while it was on the shelf before being used.
@@davidduma7615 the filter was in a sealed bag and I put it on the unit originally, then 6 months later it would not allow fuel to come through. That is when I found it.
Wasps are carbon based so a little bit of carbon filtering for free
Similar thing I've found a full size fly in one of those see through paper style filters spinning around in the fuel flow
One thing I really love about watching Terrell's channel is that. I don't ever go hungry because I always get my dinner.😂
I wonder if he gets tired of wearing those teeth
I want to thank you for establishing a separate channel for your skits. I hope you keep them out of your main channel videos. I like the way you explain in detail what you are doing when you repair small engines. I am retired and tinker a bit with lawn mowers and chain saws for folks in my little town. I have found your videos to be invaluable. I referred to one on Tuff Torq transmission repair. Having never even seen one off a mower, I was able to successfully repair one for a friend thanks to your video.
Not all videos have skits. But better believe most will. The skits channel just highlights past skits featured here. Thanks for watching
Taryl, I think the main reason for the paper element filters being directional is because if the fuel enterers the center of filter there is not near as much filter media exposed for filtering thus reducing the overall capacity of the filter. Not near as much filter surface area if its plumbed backwards. I'm thinking that came from my father years ago that was a mechanic all his life. I just thought I would share my father's opinion. Keep the videos coming! I watch them all!
Great point, its probably a fraction of the amount of filtered surface area if its on backwards. Didn’t think of that!
Bought a 10 pack of the paper filters off of flea bay and was really happy until about 6 months later when all the paper elements started falling off of the plastic housing, rattling around inside the filter letting all the junk pass through straight into the carb…
Yup, the Chinese filters, lines, anything gas related are absolute junk
I've never hear paper rattle. What does it sound like?
@@robertsmith2956 pfppfppfpffffppfpfpfpfp is what it sounds like
I like those little Briggs filters with the stainless steel screen over any of the paper ones. If your mower does not have a fuel pump do not use a paper element filter because they can be to restrictive to gravity feed.
If you get a tiny bit of water in your fuel with a 50+ micron paper element filter installed, the water will actually coat and clog the paper element up. Water is almost twice as thick as Gasoline is. Gasoline density is 0.6 g/mL and water density 1.0 g/mL.
Density and viscosity aren't directly related. Motor oil has similar density to gasoline, yet is far thicker than water.
I just got my aux tank in so I can adjust my motorcycle carbs. This should let me find out if my green machines pump is the problem with a little gravity flow to carb.
And corn gasoline is notorious for water!
I love the fact that even after years and years this dude sticks to the teeth bit to this day. Respect
Best and most helpful small engine channel on RUclips.
No, no those are his real teeth... LOL
10 years strong this year 💪
Hey Taryl how about those fuel filters with glass cups. Those I like them because I can empty out any water or dirt in it.
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I remember those days! Are they really filters, or actually sediment bowls?
@@TarylFixesAllTheres yur dinner.. Salute!
Great job!!
I found a beautiful push/SP mower on the trash with a few repair tickets on it.
It just wouldnt start. I found that the built in screen must have been clogged with "fines" or bacteria. I washed it out with soap/water pressure.
The shop/s missed that one.
It worked great after that !!
Great video Taryl. The one we like the best is the Rotary 10352. It does a great job and works on gravity feed fuel systems and systems with fuel pumps.
Morning Tayrl, I use the 30 micron like the 30 micron you have on your bench. The only difference is the ones I buy are clear. I buy them from my John Deere dealer for about $8.00 can. Keep up the videos I have learned things I did not know before. Thanks
This is THE best detailed description of fuel filters I have ever seen! You have a new subscriber.
Great video! There are not many places to get this kind of info! The voice of experience is priceless! Thanks
Great analysis of fuel filters ! I had a couple of Uncle's that always kept their fuel funnel in a plastic bag after they used it. I usually just wipe mine out with a dirty rag. 😆👍👍
I like the Briggs and Stratton white 75 micro pancake types. They’ll be great for many years. No paper to go bad. I use these when I install new fuel lines or replace carburetors. I enjoy helping my neighbors or family members.
MTD = Missed The Dumpster Always looking forward to your next video
I like MTD = Massive Turd Dump!
Love the videos, the information, and the skits. Thanks for all the knowledge and entertainment. 🤘🤘
@tarylfixesall Yo Tim, Dom from Jersey here....i just hit you up last weekend about the blower's, single, carb adjustment. I'll now remember FOR THE REST of my life the high-speed screw is closest to the engine thanks to you! Watching tis video made me learn more about fuel filter used on small equipment. Fantastic bro! Keep up the great work!
A few year back I had the same problem were the riding mover would run for 20 mins or so then die. Figure out that if I loosen the gas cap the rider it would run fine. I though I venting was bad in the gas cap. Bought a new gas cap and didn't solve the problem. Turns out the NEW gas filter was the problem replaced it and solved the problem. The engine was B&S twin which has a fuel punp. Some how the filter was messing up the venting of the fuel. I think the filter had a small air leak.
Taryl I have a idea for a video for you. Also a great thing to offer your customers. I have a Craftsman riding which the adjustmant for the drive belt slipping is buy a new belt. What I did is to add a drive belt adjustment to the rider. Really easy to do all I did was take a chain adjuster from a garage door opener(or you can use a threaded rod or bolt and drill a hole in on end), and a small L braket. Bolt the L braket to the frame(In my case used a existing hole). Bolted the rod to the L bracket and hook the existing drive belt spring to the rod. Just tigthen the belt to the tension you like. I can go up in forward or revise very steep hills now. Only problem is have to let off the brake very slow or will pop a wheelie.
Great video, answered most of the questions concerning small engine fuel filters. I purchase Wix 33003 filters from O'Reilly's. According to them it is a 20 micron filter. The price went way up (30% increase) so I purchased what looked like Wix 33003 filters from Scamazon and noticed within a couple of months n the filters were turning dark. So I replaced them with the Wix 33003's. Lesson learned!
I’m a rebel, I run a Briggs & Stratton fuel filter on my Kohler mower engine, while wishing I had a Honda😉😉 I’m crazy like that. 😜
I bought one of the amazon carb-a-trator kits for a neighbors old tecumseh mower and it had a red pancake filter included, but looking through it it looked empty. So I cracked it open and it was just an empty plastic housing, no screen at all inside. Oh and the included "fuel" line was the wrong size for the carb nipple and felt and looked more like shrink wrap.
I have heard others find the same thing out after buying a pack of the red pancake filters off scamazon. No screen in the filter!
The red ones at least, can be infinitely blown out (to clean them) with an air gun in the opposite direction of flow. I have one on a mower that has never been replaced in 20+ years because it is easier to clean it and it's not really a wear item like the paper element ones. You can see through the red ones as it is just a mesh screen. It has never sprung a leak either, it is a very durable little piece probably made too well for its own good.
Only problem with the red ones is the mesh size on the screen is absolutely huge and seems way larger than the 150 micron rating. Good for flow, not so good for trapping debris.
@@johnnorris1227 Correct, the red one is practically uselles, you can see through the mesh. I have the white filter on a gravity-fed mower and it works fine.
Taryl
Informative video as are all your videos! Thank you!!!
That Kohler that died after 30 mins. I had the same issue. In my case it Turns out the filter that doesn’t work was exclusively intended for a fuel pump style system.
It did not work with gravity feed. It barely would dribble fuel through it.
So I went to the Non Fuel pump kohler filter and all was good. Great flow.
The thing is about fuel filters is that often they are just doing their job.
The mistake I think Taryl is making here is that some filters (OEM Krohler) are bad. Well assuming the gas is actually clean out of the pump at the station is not always correct. My own personal stuff ends up clogged up, and my red 5 gallon cans end up with some junk in the bottom. After a few uses. I keep stuff clean, but the fuel we buy has been in a lot of tanks, pipes, tankers, delivery tankers, you get the idea.
The Shamazon filters breaking down is a real thing, thanks Taryl! Use filters which work.
My favorite filters are the Breaks&Scrap'em 75 micron pancake. They work, and they are cheap.
On my big equipment, I use a spin-on fuel/water separator from Parker R12T. Small Diesel tractor and my classic 59 Ford.
Thank you for making this video with all the details. I am having the same challenge that your customer is having where the mower runs for a while and then shuts off. I just did a service of the mower and put new filter on it and now it runs and then shuts off after cutting grass for a while. I looked at the new fuel and it is looking like that the one you showed that is falling apart on the inside. I do not know if this will solve my situation yet, but this is very detailed and impacting information. I had not paid any attention to fuel filters fot the lawn mower till now. Thanks again.
Your a pretty smart fella!! Thank you for sharing and please keep up the amazing work you do!!
Thank you Tarly I love the way you explain things and don’t leave me just hanging.
Taryl, Thank you. As veteran that has just gotten into starting a small engine repair service, I appreciate all the knowledge you share and consider you a mentor. You have tremendously helped me out, making me quickly become a knowledgeable grass rat in the local business, even repairing what other shops couldn't.
I was just wondering today about the difference in the fuel filters.
Oh, I pitty you if you have just gotten into it...but you'll learn the pitfalls soon enough..Good luck to you! 🙂
Hello Taryl & GrassRats; The three and early four digit Cub Cadets with the Kohler KT17 engines had the reed looking filter that is incorporated within the fuel shut off that sticks upwards into the fuel tank through the rubber tank grommet. My bad experience with this type of filter was that I lost fuel flow in which I discovered that the filter had collapsed and folded itself over cutting off the fuel flow.
So, I ordered the fuel shut off valve that did not have the reed type filter being that I commonly use the external filters anyway.
The “Quiet Line” series of Cub Cadets had the heavy side covers which makes it somewhat difficult to easily access the fuel cut off and fuel line leading to the fuel pump which I guess that Cub Cadet decided to utilize this type of fuel filter.
Upon removal of my carburetor, I found very fine grit like sand that was within the carburetor bowl. I am planning on replacing the mechanical type fuel pump with a pulse type fuel pump similar to one of Taryls previous videos except I have a Mikuni metallic pump that I want to try.
A great comparison would be the plastic type of pulse fuel pump vs the metallic pulse type fuel pump. Like the fuel filters, There’s also issues with the knockoff fuel pumps being very sub par.
For my chain saws I like the ceramic filters. I use the Briggs reversible filters on small equipment, and the larger filters with fluted elements on my riding stock.
Thanx for the informative info. on filters Taryl you are the SEG. small engine guru.
Thank you for sharing. Got educated on fuel filters today👍
Thanks buddy. I was just getting ready to order some fuel filters for various projects. This is very useful information. Now I can have my dinner and eat it too. :)
Those "crappy ones" you pointed out, they also tend to break off in the fuel hose when you goto change them, so we got rid of them with the quikness. We had the stens brand. We only use the 7998, those briggs red ones and the Kohler efi filters. No issues with those 3.
Great video. Thanks, Taryl. Clean gas may be the best solution, but... I have an engine with EFI, and I AM going to use a filter. Clogged injectors are MUCH harder to fix than clogged carbs. The question is, how do I find the best filter? Many of us don't have the option of ordering from Stens.
Good video and info as always. Don't have a favorite but as you say keep clean fuel. Helps a lot. Also watch for rust dust from rusty gas cans or rusty tank.
Helpful video. I think my 1974 Briggs and Scrappem tractor has an in tank filter. How the heck would you clean it? Seems like you would have to replace the tank. I got that tractor in 2001, and it will be running long after I am gone. 10hp cast iron.
Thanks for this video. Thanks for bringing to mind the need to check the filters. Which is the very thing that I am guilty of overlooking.
Thanks for the enlightening, mine is vary lean thinking its time for a new fuel line this year. And checking carb.
Wow! One thing I can say as a subscriber is that I take away so much info from your videos. Plus... your humor makes them interesting as well. Great job!
I always put the little plastic ones with the mesh towards the "carb be trator". That way, any particles can settle to the bottom of the plastic when not in use. I had not thought about a chainsaw filter getting bad enough to stop the oil from going through. Will change those a bit more often now.
That was a very interesting and detailed overview of the small engine filters at our disposal thanks for sharing…👍👍👍
WoW I never knew or heard of micron in fuel filters (you can teach an old dog like me something new everyday 👍)…. I always take the old one off once a year and take it to the auto parts store (Napa) for replacement … I always clean around the gas cap and cans before filling up because I can see dirt, dust, grass and other stuff around it thinking it will get in the engine fuel tank and I will have trouble down the road… That little bit of time goes a long, long way down the road… Keep up the great work !!!
Yeah that's a common rating for filters, even air filters for your house or dust masks. One micron refers to one millionth of an inch. Cheers!
Another great video Taryl, my experience is, that no matter how clean you keep everything, fuel is dirty no matter what kind it is. It all has trash in it, and water from the in ground tanks at the gas station, they all have water and trash.
Thank you Taryl for the informative video! I have a lot of those filters that were included with the Chinese carbs from Amazon.I just threw them out! Ordered Briggs red filters.Better to be safe than sorry.
Another filter you forgot to mention is the screen right inside the hose barb of the carburetor. I've seen this on Powersmart, Powermore and a few other engines. Real head scratcher why the engine runs great no skipping for a few minutes then dies out like it's starving for fuel and then restarts about 5 minutes later. With these I just use a needle to punch through that filter so it's no longer a problem and put on a real fuel filter.
I think some honda also
Great video! I’ve seen a lot of them over the years. They need changed regularly.
My 1997 Crapsman tractor with a Kroller engine ... gravity fed....is very sensitive to the fuel filter. If you look up the part it says to use one of those Kroller paper filters but it will sputter and stall under heavy load. Just like the story you told at 24:12 while looking at the catalog.
I have to use one of those screen filters and it runs ok.
I like the idea of those clear pancake filters. Always reassuring to actually see the fuel.
I like to use paint filter in a funnel to help filter out trash that may come from the pump.
I love the old school glass sediment filter on the old brakes and Scrap’em,.
Great Information right here!
Good info!
A wealth of knowledge that I haven't found anywhere on the internet. Maybe my googleese is lacking. Thanks Taryl!
wooohoooo fuel filter master class .... I knew most of it .. but still learned something .. allways do .. love ya Taryl
Good to know info about fuel filters especially for us Motocross racers always filling with dirty cans
I got a friend a JD LX178 for the princely sum of $50. His Breaks and Scrapum on an MTD had eaten a camshaft. The carb bowl on the chinesium carbureator was full of strange stuff and now I know what it was. Cleaned it out and ran quite well. Thank you. Now to replace the filter.
Thanx for all your videos!!! Great information Some of this stuff u teach I learn hard way 😂 Still learning I wish I got more time to fix may old tractors, tiller and other small engine stuff Thnx once again
Thank you for sharing have a good day be safe
I have a couple of generators with a "Sediment Trap" before the carb. Its a deep clear bowl, sediment goes in, loses speed, and sinks to the bottom. Threaded top, like a diesel tank fuel pump. Some have screens/filters, some dont. I have also rigged a few clear fuel lines with loops in them to achieve similar effect.
Stay gold.
Thank you and your team for the great tips and info on fuel filters, and yes I like the clear ones . Keep up the cool vid's.
Thanks for the educational video on fuel filters, great wake up call on no or not enough fuel getting to the carb.
Awesome educational video, nice sound effects, Thanks for being here
🎉 Thanks for the video 📸...... JJ.....😊
I remember you saying that the filters with the paper element can deteriorate and clog the carb, so I got a filter for my Kowasucky that has a metal screen. I don't recall it reporting the microns. I am careful about getting dirt in the gas.
Those filters you had trouble with. I had the same problem. Napa 3011. They would air lock. Love those mugs. Gonna have to snag one!
Great video again Tarly.
Lot of info I never knew about fuel filters.
Next do a video on shut off valves for small engines.
Keep the vids coming to Pittsburgh Pa.
Beachbum98 out.
And there's your dinner!!!
This is a great video, its very educational , Thanks for posting, cheers from Taxxachusetts
Oh this is glorious. I wonder what other in depth videos that can be made like this.
That's another fine mesh you've gotten us into, Ollie!
Fuel filter before the fuel pump (@14:00)? Something very coarse might be OK, but a fine one that is a regular size has a lot of restriction. Pumps can push a lot better than they can suck because the sucking is limited by atmospheric pressure. So the fine filter belongs after the pump so there is pressure to force the fuel through it. That is the way it is done in everything I can recall. An oil pump on a car has a coarse screen before the pump and a filter after it. Same story for the fuel pump.
I used the black and red filters on my Kawasaki kz 900
chopper .1 filter for 2 carbs on a 4 carb rack . Worked great with the limited space i had to work with.
Teryl a question about fuel filters and carbs . In your opinion, are the old-fashioned fuel filters with a sediment drain and the sintered metal elements, or fine bronze screen any better than the newer cartridge types with a plastic mesh or paper element? I used to have several engines that had the fuel bowel/ filter drain . I'm Moy old fart opinion ( close to being 61 ) it seems like the engines were a lot less finicky than the newer incline filter types. Even taking accout for the " Good old fashioned " leaded gas , not this newfangled " Wonder Gas"
Definitely enjoyed this video and enjoyed seeing the filters taken apart now I know to watch out for filters that are disintegrating
Great video lots of good information. Thanks Dactal.
Never had good luck with fleabay or scamazon chineesium parts, the price is right but not if it causes other issues, have just started sticking with OEM when possible, have had better luck all around.
I work on small engine equipment at my home shop occasionally for side work because im in a small town. Society Hill SC. Normally use the red ones but the clear ones are nice. As you said you need a good clean gas container fresh gas. Keep capped and clean. I mean how hard is it to keep fresh gas in a storage container?
I once had an issue (twice from the same batch of gas) where I bought some 100% gas that was contaiminated with water.
It blinded over two fuel filters with the paper media. I've since been using those filters with sintered brass material and topping off my tanks using a Mr. Funnel to prefilter the fuel of any junk or water. I haven't had any issues since.
Hey Taryl! Question.. Can I put a 15-20 micron filter on my mower with a fuel pump or would that be too restrictive?
Good Job I'm enjoying all these cool video ideas you keep having keep it up. love it.
You mentioned the Kohler filter you had trouble with. I see in the catalog it was 51 micron. Would that be too fine for gravity feed?
Curious about the correlation between 2 things you said. You mentioned about the pump pushing fuel through the smaller micron filters but you also state to put the filter before the pump. Do pulse pumps create as much pressure pulling fuel from tank as they do pushing to the carb?
I learned along time ago to flush all the tanks in the spring before starting the units for the season. Like you I stopped using the scamazon aftermarket junk. Good video Taryl.
Great info there Taryl. I think you just fixed my problem. Thanks👍
Great tips on fuel filters. Experience can be a great teacher.
Wow remember the glass bowl filters you could take apart, i have a dozen i put away somewhere 30 years ago lol
hey taryl i finally used your heat quench trick on a toro 648 aerator for the bearing and it worked thanks for that. my fellow mechanic coworkers where laughing at me but i got the last laugh
What about those 1/8 inch pipe to hose barb metal filters like came on all the older Ford carburetors? I use them on electric fuel shut offs because the will screw right into them and save space too. Is there a 1/8 in pipe to 1/4 in hose barb one? The only one I have ever found have either a 5/16 or 3/8 hose barb.
Thank you making us aware of Scamazon fuel filters.
I bought a 20 yr old Ariens rider that the owner only used maybe 6 times, looks wise in mint shape but hydro locked...a carb kit was $70, so me being cheap bought a KIPA carb on Scamazon and had very good luck with it!
Excellent video. I learned a lot and like your comments on them.
👍👍...awesomely informative. I learned a few things and I thought that I am pretty knowledgeable on filters. Thanks 🐲🦖
This has being brought to you by🌈⭐️ this was definitely information thank you Tarly. I use the red fuel filter one it gets the basics out.👍🤠
GREAT INFO!!!!!!
Thank you!!!
Gary from Dogtown Alabama ( yes there IS a dogtown)
THANK U! I LEARNED SOMETHING FROM THIS VIDEO.
I’m new to your channel. This was really great. Thanks.
I really liked all your videos Terrell but what I going to say is I really love your red Spitfire beautiful car my friend
Yea,i use the red and white on alot of tractors great video thumbs up
Garbage filters, they filter nothing. I throw them right in the trash !
@steamboatwillie935 they work for catching the grass debris, and bigger dirt that gets past into the tank
Thank you for letting us all know
Where do you buy your aftermarket parts?