Trope Talk: Space Horror

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @enickma910
    @enickma910 2 года назад +1534

    "ok now imagine all the fucked up stuff humans do"
    "uh-huh"
    "now imagine someone DOES IT TO US"
    *gasps in the crowd*

    • @salvadortoscano2534
      @salvadortoscano2534 2 года назад +105

      Every civilization Europe colonized/invaded:

    • @anonymousfellow8879
      @anonymousfellow8879 2 года назад +65

      Honestly this sums up why I dislike retro scifi (aside from startrek and something more space-opera-y like starwars) perfectly. A LOT of it is based in (neo) colonialism and Red Scare propeganda and a dash of xenophobia/racism. (Similar hot take for zombies and monster/demon hunting tropes. Ableism and/or suspicion to hostility towards entire groups of people of a different sexuality/gender/skintone/culture/etc. Just. Not a fan.)
      …more power to people who can enjoy those tropes, anyway, but my disbelief just Isn’t suspended whatsoever. Or, not enough to keep me from, say, rooting for “the BAD guys!” instead. (Especially if they’re sympathetic in any way.)

    • @anonymousfellow8879
      @anonymousfellow8879 2 года назад +34

      @@salvadortoscano2534 …and Europe-offshoots.
      [squints at US, Canada, Australia, South Africa, and New Zealand.]

    • @loadeddice4696
      @loadeddice4696 2 года назад +33

      @@salvadortoscano2534 Don't be silly, the Global South doesn't get to have a voice in science fiction.

    • @joshuavidrine889
      @joshuavidrine889 2 года назад

      @@salvadortoscano2534 All the nations that were busy enslaving and genociding each other before the Europeans came along:

  • @merrittanimation7721
    @merrittanimation7721 2 года назад +2996

    "It's not that there's nowhere to run, there's a whole universe out there. It just won't help you."
    That's a terrifying line, even beyond the realm of space horror.

    • @AegixDrakan
      @AegixDrakan 2 года назад +110

      Such a *RAW* line and I LOVE IT. XD

    • @kadirali1456
      @kadirali1456 2 года назад +91

      Indifferent horror is so surreal and immersive
      That's why maid in abyss is my favorite anime

    • @Sorain1
      @Sorain1 2 года назад +89

      "You know the incomprehensibly vast horde of ruthless space locusts from outside the galaxy currently destroying our civilizations? They are _running from something._ "

    • @peaceandloveusa6656
      @peaceandloveusa6656 2 года назад +53

      ​@@Sorain1 This is one of my favorite tropes! Finding out some severely OP force we can barely even comprehend is really just a small fish in the sea of space, desperately trying to survive, is such an enjoyable way to get the point across that we, like our planet, are meaningless in the vastness of space.

    • @shinyninja8107
      @shinyninja8107 2 года назад +36

      In a similar vein, people tend to say that in space, no one can hear you scream. But the universe can. It just doesn’t care.

  • @theinspiredgamer1949
    @theinspiredgamer1949 2 года назад +947

    “The unholy offspring of a gimp suit and a velociraptor” is now my favorite description of the Xenomorph ever.

    • @cakeboss4194
      @cakeboss4194 2 года назад +37

      This explains too much about H.R. Geiger's creative process.

    • @HellishSpoon
      @HellishSpoon 2 года назад +24

      he loves his phallic bio-mechanical creatures.

    • @Korvorkian1
      @Korvorkian1 2 года назад +3

      best description of anything ever

    • @minatodroger7890
      @minatodroger7890 2 года назад +5

      And it fits so perfectly

    • @unironicallylikesranger7122
      @unironicallylikesranger7122 2 года назад +7

      Fun fact! Part of the original costume was an actual human skull

  • @Anonymos185
    @Anonymos185 2 года назад +3326

    "The unholy offspring of a gimp-suit and a velociraptor" might be the most hilarious description of any monster I've ever heard.

    • @orrorsaness5942
      @orrorsaness5942 2 года назад +23

      As space is a place we could go there! Who knows who’s out there.

    • @disembodiedglances8695
      @disembodiedglances8695 2 года назад +17

      It became one of my favorite descriptions ever.

    • @moonwatcher4047
      @moonwatcher4047 2 года назад +3

      Amen!

    • @kristhedumbass6281
      @kristhedumbass6281 2 года назад +6

      I wanna like this, but it’s at 666 and I don’t wanna disrupt the satanic perfection

    • @monsieurdorgat6864
      @monsieurdorgat6864 2 года назад +12

      It's apt too. You ever look at HR Giger's other art?
      It's... Unique 😅

  • @jenniferbtoo9344
    @jenniferbtoo9344 2 года назад +684

    My favorite space trope is “Earth is Space Australia”, which implies that while space is weird, we are also weird, and even if we can’t handle a situation perfectly we can at least survive it.

    • @shadowprince4620
      @shadowprince4620 2 года назад +89

      As an Australian, I am simultaneously offended and stoked that our Great Southern Land is equated to the vast empty void of nightmares

    • @TheJamacaneseNerd04231996
      @TheJamacaneseNerd04231996 2 года назад

      So what you're saying is to shoot a bunch of prisoners into space and see how things shake out? Lol

    • @nerosoul2506
      @nerosoul2506 2 года назад +37

      @@shadowprince4620 We do seem alot more deadly to the outside observer so it adds up

    • @andresmartinezramos7513
      @andresmartinezramos7513 2 года назад +39

      ​@@shadowprince4620 "vast empty void of nightmares" That might very well describe Australia

    • @jasonreed7522
      @jasonreed7522 2 года назад +55

      That trope is kinda a reaction to "space is super hostile", it just flips the script and most races in the galaxy take 1 look at earth and classify it as the most hostile world capable of suporting life. Its often coupled with "humans are space orcs" which makes sense considering humans are also from planet hell/ a death world.

  • @remembernovember9059
    @remembernovember9059 2 года назад +997

    "Unholy offspring of a gimp suit and a velociraptor" is probably the best way I've ever heard someone describe the Xenomorph.

    • @NobodyC13
      @NobodyC13 2 года назад

      And most unexpectedly true, since the Xenomorph is a metaphorical fear of sex.

    • @RobertP.Trebor
      @RobertP.Trebor 2 года назад +13

      Hilarious but also terrifying.

    • @kidagirl99
      @kidagirl99 2 года назад +28

      The other description she's used is "the bastard offspring of a blender and a velociraptor." Also quite accurate.

    • @christophera4527
      @christophera4527 2 года назад +10

      I had to go back and hear it again. Lmao

    • @youngcompetitive7457
      @youngcompetitive7457 2 года назад +10

      ridley scott once said "dear god stop with the dragons"

  • @WebofHope
    @WebofHope 2 года назад +1703

    "Up is more than just a fun direction Tigers sometimes come out of!" Red throwing out gold lines like this just makes my day

    • @ronindelray
      @ronindelray 2 года назад +9

      That feels like a red rising reference (speaking of sci-fi)

    • @WebofHope
      @WebofHope 2 года назад +47

      @@thecrappycoder tigers are ambush predators that like to climb into trees to jump on their prey, so the line was referring to needing to look up so you don't get jumped

    • @Xevailo
      @Xevailo 2 года назад +4

      This line made me laugh so much I had to Pause the Video 😅

    • @DDlambchop43
      @DDlambchop43 2 года назад +12

      funny, I thought it was a Calvin and Hobbes reference.

    • @4ndyr0g3r50n
      @4ndyr0g3r50n 2 года назад +1

      or elephants, if anyone's seen that futurama clip

  • @shadedway5277
    @shadedway5277 2 года назад +1147

    "Experts around the world agree that humans... look up sometimes." Very untrue, I've played enough Dishonored to know that having a Y value greater than your opponent basically makes you invisible

    • @danewardlocke9014
      @danewardlocke9014 2 года назад +147

      Anyone who's familiar with 3D video game creation also likely knows how difficult it can be to get *players* to look up, for that matter.

    • @dikkie1000
      @dikkie1000 2 года назад +68

      @@danewardlocke9014 It's the reason barnacles were introduced in Half-Life, just to make the "up" more exciting.

    • @FelisImpurrator
      @FelisImpurrator 2 года назад

      @@dikkie1000 "What's up?" said the FPS gamer.
      The barnacle burped.
      (At least it's not Deep Rock Galactic where it's literally impossible to break free of one of those head-eating bastards yourself, and also the tongues angle off to the side to make sure they can eat you.)

    • @DeinosDinos
      @DeinosDinos 2 года назад +14

      “Oh mY GoD tHAT’s noT rEaL LifE” but dumb jokes aside I do wonder if we’re actually like that in real life too cause we don’t perceive the world as it is but rather focus on very specific things, right? I wonder if the same thing actually does happen in real life too

    • @soulstealer5625
      @soulstealer5625 2 года назад +4

      Least they buff that for sequels... on a high enough difficulty.

  • @gosh_darn_odin
    @gosh_darn_odin 2 года назад +1580

    If blue says it needs a content warning it needs a content warning

    • @hattiemiller2982
      @hattiemiller2982 2 года назад +7

      Yeah

    • @kikikaichan
      @kikikaichan 2 года назад +87

      Isn't Blue also scared of the ocean (according to the Atlantis video)?

    • @ThyGoofylizard
      @ThyGoofylizard 2 года назад +7

      Yeah

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 2 года назад +33

      Unless it's just a picture of some cool fish. _(Underwater!)_

    • @bazzfromthebackground3696
      @bazzfromthebackground3696 2 года назад +24

      With as much war as he talks about he certainly isn't squeamish.

  • @redemption101caleb
    @redemption101caleb 2 года назад +1883

    “Up is more than just a fun direction tigers come from sometimes.” Well. That solidly made this my favorite video yet.

    • @deadcard13
      @deadcard13 2 года назад +36

      The drawing of the Alien eggs sealed the deal for me.

    • @clutchedbyanangel
      @clutchedbyanangel 2 года назад +25

      Space tigers.

    • @michaelmooney1914
      @michaelmooney1914 2 года назад +12

      I paused and burst out laughing at that one.

    • @_g8dfathr_678
      @_g8dfathr_678 2 года назад +9

      "Wha-"

    • @GGrimmmm
      @GGrimmmm 2 года назад +10

      And yet somehow we’re generally terrible at checking above us for threats

  • @TalkingVidya
    @TalkingVidya 2 года назад +1294

    Funnily enough, The Thing is space horror closer to Alien than any other genre.
    As Jacob Geller said: "The monster may kill them but the cold will"
    In the thing, there is really no where to run since a few minutes outside will likely kill you

    • @jc-kj8yc
      @jc-kj8yc 2 года назад +75

      Yes, space horror doesn't mean it has to be cosmic space, but just vast emptiness around you. A sand/rock/ice desert and the ocean (surface or below) deliver a very similar threat

    • @CoronaMage
      @CoronaMage 2 года назад +44

      For those who don't know, Jacob Geller is a youtuber who produces some fantastic content and has a love for the horror genre in general. His videos are well thought out and he's clearly a smart guy who knows what he's talking about. Highly recommended you check him out if you haven't already.

    • @darkalicornkingdoom3572
      @darkalicornkingdoom3572 2 года назад +9

      Vaya vaya veo que Danny es un hombre de cultura

    • @1LivelyRogue
      @1LivelyRogue 2 года назад +1

      Good point.

    • @Trapper1836
      @Trapper1836 2 года назад

      Seconds out in space will kill you or at least severely and I mean very very very severely disfigure you

  • @temporaltoast9692
    @temporaltoast9692 2 года назад +13492

    Ever thought about how the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs has the largest birds killed to stones thrown ratio of all time?

    • @cgkase6210
      @cgkase6210 2 года назад

      Flumpty Bumpty killed 1000000 birds with one stone. That stone was an asteroid, and yesterday was the apocalypse.

    • @nicoleyoung0511
      @nicoleyoung0511 2 года назад +313

      Nice lol

    • @anthonydavid3348
      @anthonydavid3348 2 года назад +784

      This has to be one of the observations I’ve read

    • @ryonalionthunder
      @ryonalionthunder 2 года назад +205

      Mhm, but Dinosaurs aren’t birds, Birds are dinosaurs.
      So no birds were killed?

    • @nerosoul2506
      @nerosoul2506 2 года назад +167

      @@ryonalionthunder do we count Archaeopteryx?

  • @nathank2289
    @nathank2289 2 года назад +1223

    For me the deep ocean version is the most terrifying "space" story. You still get the crushing loneliness of space mixed with the possibility of a Mt Everest sized spider squid ready to eat you 10 feet away yet you can't see it. Which is why Subnautica is such a great game.

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 2 года назад +70

      This! This with giant tentacles!!
      And the ocean gives hundreds of times the pressure differential that space can produce.

    • @TheDarkThing0
      @TheDarkThing0 2 года назад +20

      if your interested in that Horror the magnus archives has a very good episode on that, and many other types of horror

    • @Derenyx
      @Derenyx 2 года назад +30

      There's a great little horror indie game about this, which actually does play into the space horror aspect too. It's called Iron Lung.

    • @k.5425
      @k.5425 2 года назад +8

      Does "The silent sea" count as space horror?

    • @sxlproductions
      @sxlproductions 2 года назад +11

      Iron lung is the perfect mix
      Space lore
      Ocean gameplay

  • @El_Chico_des_Galos
    @El_Chico_des_Galos 2 года назад +7259

    Ah yes Tyrannids, Xenomorphs, the Flood. Nothing is more terrifying than humanity’s imagination of predators more effective than ourselves.

    • @thekinginyellowmessiahofha6308
      @thekinginyellowmessiahofha6308 2 года назад

      The flood are a different kind of horror. They are subversive and aberrant. They grab you and painfully warp you into something horrible. The Thing, The Many, The Beast, all of them are scarier than a xenomorph ever could be. The tyranids use a more existential angle. They are always becoming stronger and more dangerous. You can blow them up but there will always be more. They surround the galaxy and soon they will come to feast. I love Alien but the horror of the Xenomorph can’t match the others.

    • @MatthewCSnow
      @MatthewCSnow 2 года назад

      Kinda interesting that all these monsters use a somewhat parasitic relationship with humans (infecting a human to either control them or reproduction)

    • @CLNCJD94
      @CLNCJD94 2 года назад +685

      The sheer fact that the flood’s final stage of evolution is to just peace out of our universe to spread to others is both incredibly badass and highly unnerving.

    • @nerosoul2506
      @nerosoul2506 2 года назад +429

      the flood has so much stuff going on, Xenomorphs at least stop after a certain point because they're animals, the flood just keeps growing because its a parasite, Which is why we got my favourite visual for a planet that's "living" and has a giant mouth

    • @cccaaawww8685
      @cccaaawww8685 2 года назад +162

      Yeah I think if we encounter another intelligent life form they will be deeply disturbed by our imagination.

  • @andrewmirror4611
    @andrewmirror4611 2 года назад +1570

    Weird that you didn't mention the sea horror as it's a strong precursor to the space horror. In fact lots of stories that we now think of as space things are taken directly or indirectly from the seafarer stories. We have several stories that directly compare the two, like the treasure planet. Lots of stuff to explore

    • @mattsamoto4451
      @mattsamoto4451 Год назад +100

      Yeah i guess, being on the ocean, would feel very isolating, and give the sea shanty tunes, and storys told. It makes sense space horror is a evolution of ghost ship tails.

    • @riolu471
      @riolu471 Год назад +21

      Lovecraft, it's called Lovecraft

    • @AnimeSunglasses
      @AnimeSunglasses Год назад +61

      @@riolu471 nah, Sea Horror substantially predates Lovecraft. It's in things like the original Flying Dutchman legend...

    • @riolu471
      @riolu471 Год назад +12

      @@AnimeSunglasses I know, Lovecraft just happens to have based his entire genre around sea horror, which makes him a good example.

    • @fearanger1
      @fearanger1 Год назад +32

      @@riolu471 I mean, if you consider only The Dunwich Horror & The Call of Cthulhu, you'd be right. But Lovecraft's stories weren't entirely based around sea horror, they were based around the horrors of the unknown.

  • @wiksolop72
    @wiksolop72 2 года назад +1265

    Wasn't it also Blue that once said, "The Ocean is terrifying. The deeper you go, the more nightmares there are!"?
    Space is the same thing except....more

    • @therebedragons2653
      @therebedragons2653 2 года назад +131

      Oh no .. your ...more tricked me

    • @icarussarts
      @icarussarts 2 года назад +54

      @@therebedragons2653 it tricked us all.
      We have been fooled.

    • @SirFooplesTheThird
      @SirFooplesTheThird 2 года назад +40

      Space is infinite but far away. The deep is relatively small compared to space but really, really close (compared to space)

    • @spoolofyarn6682
      @spoolofyarn6682 2 года назад

      The only difference is that the demonic rough drafts deep in the sea are closer than whatever is floating in space.

    • @FreshZCORD
      @FreshZCORD 2 года назад +8

      ​@@therebedragons2653 yeh its pretty smart if they did that on purpose, got me too

  • @Dyneamaeus
    @Dyneamaeus 2 года назад +613

    "But 'Up' is more than just a fun direction tigers sometimes come out of."
    Thanks for the warning, I wouldn't have been prepared for that terrifying realization otherwise.

    • @hangebza6625
      @hangebza6625 2 года назад +11

      I am more scared of hawks and eagles to be honest. Just yesterday they took cousin Jeffrey

    • @talroitberg5913
      @talroitberg5913 2 года назад +23

      Don't worry, tigers are mostly terrestrial. It's the leopards that will attack you from the trees.

    • @mongooseunleashed
      @mongooseunleashed 2 года назад +11

      ​@@talroitberg5913 Well now I just hate cats in general.

    • @josephperez2004
      @josephperez2004 2 года назад +12

      @@mongooseunleashed Trust me, the feeling is mutual. Even the house cats barely tolerate us clumsy apes fawning over them. There is a SMBC comic that sums up the domestication of cats as follows
      Human: Hey, are you killing the vermin that's been getting into my grain?
      Cat: That's none of your damn business.

    • @alpaczka6078
      @alpaczka6078 2 года назад

      "Have you looked up? THATS WHERE TIGERS COME FROM, YOU IDIOT!
      have you read a book? THAT'S WHERE TIGERS SLEEP, YOU IDIOT!"

  • @Quondom
    @Quondom 2 года назад +898

    There have also been films like "The Martian," where the hostile environment of space is itself the villain, and more rarely like "Avatar", where the scary aliens prove to be less evil than their human enemies.

    • @MrTmac9k
      @MrTmac9k 2 года назад +97

      "The Martian" isn't space horror, though. At least not primarily -- it's a love letter to ingenuity. Or to use Mark Watney's words, a tribute to the power of "sciencing the sh*t out of this."

    • @Galaar
      @Galaar 2 года назад +23

      @@MrTmac9k I highly recommend reading Project Hail Mary if you liked The Martian.

    • @TheMantisLord50
      @TheMantisLord50 2 года назад +7

      @@Galaar I read it. Very noice, amazing cure for space horror

    • @sunbirth4795
      @sunbirth4795 2 года назад +3

      which she did mention, specifically bringing up Klaatu

    • @aldingess1248
      @aldingess1248 2 года назад +8

      While i wouldnt consider Avatar to be space horror you could probably spin the concept of human wads being the crushing force into space horror

  • @WildFyreful
    @WildFyreful 2 года назад +1998

    Really impressed that you didn't bring up "The Dark Forest" theory of alien life. There is life out there, perhaps lots of it, but not all of it is nice, and nobody knows for sure who's nice, so everyone's metaphorically hiding in the bushes hoping those bad neighbors don't notice you.

    • @universalperson
      @universalperson 2 года назад +225

      Eh, I always thought that theory was flawed because it assumes groups don't team up to beat bad actors, or that bad actors can still cooperate with others for rational self interest.
      It's the product of a suspicious, paranoid mindset.

    • @WildFyreful
      @WildFyreful 2 года назад +236

      @@universalperson Fair point. We're working off of what we assume is "basic human thinking" (aggressive paranoia = survival) but that in itself is flawed because we've only survived due to cooperation, not mindlessly nuking each other.

    • @universalperson
      @universalperson 2 года назад +134

      @@WildFyreful on top of that, aliens wouldn't have any kind of human psychology at all. Or that they would have any psychology in common with other aliens. They could be a parasitic swarm of locusts, they could try to understand others like some of us would. We just don't know. I think a human's perception of aliens can say more about the human.

    • @ajiththomas2465
      @ajiththomas2465 2 года назад +18

      @@universalperson
      Alien biochemistry and psychologies brought about by those are not the same as human biochemistry and psychology.

    • @ThePa1riot
      @ThePa1riot 2 года назад +90

      Actually that kind of makes me feel better. Two (or more) sides mutually scared of each other can poke their heads out and go, “aren’t you going to kill me?”
      “That depends, are you going to kill me?”
      “Wasn’t planning on it.”
      “Oh! Okay then, hi!”

  • @martijnvanweele6204
    @martijnvanweele6204 2 года назад +385

    "Up is more than a fun direction tigers sometimes come out of"
    Not even a minute in, and Red's channeling the ghost of Terry Pratchett...

    • @AegixDrakan
      @AegixDrakan 2 года назад +52

      Yeah, that really does read like something he would write. XD

    • @coracorvus
      @coracorvus 2 года назад +4

      I see that as an absolute win.

    • @DDlambchop43
      @DDlambchop43 3 месяца назад

      I thought it was a Calvin and Hobbes reference.

    • @willmfrank
      @willmfrank Месяц назад

      @@DDlambchop43 I don't know if Bill Watterson and Terry Pratchett ever read each other's stuff, but I'm fairly confident that, if they had, they would have been fans of each other

  • @mikoajciemiega8018
    @mikoajciemiega8018 2 года назад +1433

    "There are only two options: either we are alone in the universe, or we aren't. Both are equally terrifying"

    • @mjbull5156
      @mjbull5156 2 года назад +68

      There is a third option. We are not alone in the universe, but any other intelligent species is so far away from us that they may as well not exist.

    • @lordshennington2756
      @lordshennington2756 2 года назад +52

      @@mjbull5156 That's just the first option. . .

    • @Shoxic666
      @Shoxic666 2 года назад +27

      Give XCOM a couple years to deal with it, they'll make damn sure there's only one option.

    • @joevenespineli6389
      @joevenespineli6389 2 года назад +21

      I kinda like Dead Space's take on it, that by the time humanity achieves space travel every other alien civilizations are dead.

    • @AuthorityCat
      @AuthorityCat 2 года назад +15

      @@lordshennington2756 Not really. Quantum communication may be possible even if travel remains difficult. Also humans can't survive a 10,000 year trip, but AI can. It's definitely possible to reach other life, it just takes a while. I won't even entertain the idea that we're alone in the universe though. It's not mathematically likely.

  • @D0cSwiss
    @D0cSwiss 2 года назад +567

    Not gonna lie, I came into this thinking "Man, space ain't that scary"
    Then I was reminded that space can still include my one weakness, jump scares

    • @cam4636
      @cam4636 2 года назад +72

      ...
      *boo*

    • @Tree_-wp5zn
      @Tree_-wp5zn 2 года назад +28

      @@cam4636 hey! Don't scare him like that....
      Oooops sorry.

    • @The-Silliest-Little-Guy
      @The-Silliest-Little-Guy 2 года назад +16

      @@cam4636 AAAA-

    • @blade5280
      @blade5280 2 года назад +9

      @@cam4636 “Stop it Patrick! You’re scaring him!”

  • @robertd4061
    @robertd4061 2 года назад +1046

    One of my favorite examples of space horror actually comes from D&D. There’s an entity known as Atropus, The World Born Dead. It’s a moon-sized zombified head, said to be the remnants of a stillborn deity. It comes from distant space, and as it approaches a world, the world will slowly start to decay, until it begins orbiting the planet, effectively causing a necromancy-powered apocalypse. I always thought that was a cool usage of space horror in a non-sci-fi setting.

    • @robertd4061
      @robertd4061 2 года назад +86

      @RobotBlue if you’re interested, the book that contains the most info about it (and other similarly powerful beings) is from the 3rd edition of the game. It’s called “Elder Evils”.

    • @berengustav7714
      @berengustav7714 2 года назад +19

      I like how Marvel included the severed head of a Celestial as a locatation.

    • @dhampir_days
      @dhampir_days 2 года назад +32

      Atropus is REALLY cool tbh and I plan to use it for a campaign once Spelljammer comes out for 5e. I had the idea of a not-yet-at-full-power Atropus that acts like radiation, and as spelljammers go missing near this one area, or those that come back are filled with necrotic energy, you are tasked with navigating this area with the help of protective arcane tech.

    • @benjiusofficial
      @benjiusofficial 2 года назад +10

      @@dhampir_days Once... Spelljammer... comes out for 5e? Is this legit?
      Edit: Oooohhh yeah... Dass nice. It's almost time to put away the 3.5e books.

    • @daviddaugherty2816
      @daviddaugherty2816 2 года назад +6

      @@benjiusofficial It's legitimacy depends on how much you like the Astral Plane and/or space. If you mean to use both, it's just the worst. I'll always miss the days you could blow yourself to kingdom come by using a fire spell in the phlogiston.

  • @ryangriffin1998
    @ryangriffin1998 2 года назад +333

    "But up is more than just a fun direction that tigers sometimes come out of."
    Yes, it's also a delightful Pixar movie with one of the saddest openings ever

    • @arutka2000
      @arutka2000 2 года назад +12

      Where's that God-damned onion cutting ninja?

    • @sophiawatt2191
      @sophiawatt2191 2 года назад +10

      First thing that came to my mind was when Carl told Russell to hurry or the tigers would eat him

  • @lemmonboy6459
    @lemmonboy6459 2 года назад +1393

    Ah Space Horror:
    Mysterious colors unlike any seen, terrible gods, unending hordes of flesh eating aliens, and good ole fashion unknown knowledge
    Such fun :)

    • @connorwilson2475
      @connorwilson2475 2 года назад +30

      Ahh… typical Friday

    • @sloth7ds
      @sloth7ds 2 года назад +16

      Reminds me of the anthology book "space eldritch"

    • @AtaMarKat
      @AtaMarKat 2 года назад +44

      The color is Magenta, actually.

    • @whathell6t
      @whathell6t 2 года назад +7

      @@AtaMarKat
      Pink ja nai, Magenta da.

    • @eveakane6563
      @eveakane6563 2 года назад +21

      We can throw Lovecraft into a space shuttle and he'll probably produce a dozen books within the year.

  • @jordanloux3883
    @jordanloux3883 2 года назад +962

    2001: A Space Odyssey really sold the horror of space with its SILENCE. The sense that you have no idea what could happen, what can be happening right behind you, or even in front of you, and the fact you have no idea until it is far, far too late.

    • @ewwpoorpeople5684
      @ewwpoorpeople5684 2 года назад +41

      One of my favorite scenes from that movie is when the one astronaut is disconnected from the ship, and the camera holds on him slowly falling away into space.

    • @alanmonteros6432
      @alanmonteros6432 2 года назад +6

      Alien Isolation also had some neat space scenes

    • @MatthewCSnow
      @MatthewCSnow 2 года назад +28

      Vast emptiness/silence is something we have a hard time comprehending. Heck, In “The Martian” the dude had to find many ways to distract himself from the realization that he was alone in the empty desert of Mars

    • @chimera9818
      @chimera9818 2 года назад +9

      @@MatthewCSnow that probably what made him survive

    • @merlenclownshuffles
      @merlenclownshuffles 2 года назад

      The fear of space its you can see it coming and cant stop it, were alone in the universe, the universe is trying to kill us and SPECIFICALLY THE SUN! Or your alone.
      And therea nothing you or anyone else can do about it.

  • @singhc1265
    @singhc1265 2 года назад +334

    "It's not that there's nowhere to run. There's a whole universe out there. It just won't help you" is such a good line

    • @orrorsaness5942
      @orrorsaness5942 2 года назад +8

      An environment not helping you is quite scary.

  • @chrisdaily2077
    @chrisdaily2077 2 года назад +916

    I always love the idea that somethings in the universe aren't just sympathetic or misunderstood. That sometimes if you venture too far into the abyss the abyss finds you.

    • @thekinginyellowmessiahofha6308
      @thekinginyellowmessiahofha6308 2 года назад +73

      Yeah there’s a weird modern insistence that everything needs to be sympathetic or misunderstood and it’s kind of off putting. I get making your aliens misunderstood in your setting but like the void demon doesn’t need to be. The evil God doesn’t need a tragic backstory he’s an aspect of evil. You don’t need a reason for why this creature is eating people beyond it’s a predator.

    • @davidegaruti2582
      @davidegaruti2582 2 года назад +22

      @@thekinginyellowmessiahofha6308 predators aren't gonna target fairly dangerous preys like humans ,
      And when spotted before going at full speed they may desist more ofthen than not ,
      Prey animals on the other hand ...
      They'll just aggro on every potential treat , and they won't desist until you've stopped moving ...

    • @theandromedaeffect979
      @theandromedaeffect979 2 года назад +34

      This is a delightfully creepy way to describe it.
      A lot of media takes the ‘be sympathetic’ angle, but we’re just a bunch of highly evolved monkeys playing god. There are things out there that we cant even fathom, and that’s how you get Eldritch / Lovecraftian writing.

    • @daniellin1726
      @daniellin1726 2 года назад

      More so, the excellent examples are diseases, flus, viruses. No agenda, it’s propelled existence driven only by circumstances and logical spirals in events. Some just ‘accidentally’ harms our existence due to how our body works. Thickens blood a bit? Whoops, we can die from that! But the blood thickening itself? Not really sinister, just a chemical reaction+bodily disturbances.

    • @daniellin1726
      @daniellin1726 2 года назад

      @@thekinginyellowmessiahofha6308 This is one of the reasons how osama rankings ending was underwhelming.

  • @Starcat5
    @Starcat5 2 года назад +938

    Space Travel: The *literal* Lovecraftian lovechild between Claustrophobia and Agoraphobia.

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 2 года назад +16

      Weren't the Mountains Of Madness guys outer space aliens?

    • @GamerPete101
      @GamerPete101 2 года назад +15

      @@williamchamberlain2263 yes, colonists that settled on earth eons ago.

    • @cam4636
      @cam4636 2 года назад +46

      "You mean there might be colors out there we've never seen before? _WHAT MIGHT THEY BE CAPABLE OF"_

    • @NobodyC13
      @NobodyC13 2 года назад +15

      @@cam4636 Some said HBO's Chernobyl miniseries was the most realistic take we'd get to a Lovecraftian story, and to "The Colour Out of Space" to boot.

    • @papajohnloki
      @papajohnloki 2 года назад +5

      @@NobodyC13 I'll just go back to worshipping Cthulhu

  • @denmark1226
    @denmark1226 2 года назад +725

    "There are two possibilities: we are alone in this universe, or we are not. Both are terrifying."
    Xcom has put the fear of space in me for too many years. Good to see someone address it

    • @cxfxcdude
      @cxfxcdude 2 года назад +27

      Good luck, Commander

    • @shelleymcrae514
      @shelleymcrae514 2 года назад +16

      Mate xcoms one of the nicer scenarios like at least we stand a chance in xcom

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 2 года назад

      Space-Horror?
      PALES in Comparison to the Radicalization-Wave and the horrifying
      traditional Values of the Right-Wingers and Conservatives!

    • @kaiserhundkek2531
      @kaiserhundkek2531 2 года назад +4

      @@shelleymcrae514 the cannon ending of the fist game (newer ones) is that we loose.

    • @KaizoeAzurum
      @KaizoeAzurum 2 года назад +1

      Do not look in to the Warhammer 40 000 universe then, and the Tyranids.

  • @SSD_Penumbra
    @SSD_Penumbra 2 года назад +309

    My favorite thing about the hell/warp travel in 40k is that it essentially works by pure luck. It's literally "Hook a psychic up to a computer, wait till he sees a vision of Big E, then floor it and hope nothing gets inside."
    Also, the same reasons work for Underwater stories too. Our terrestrial oceans are way too deep and way too dangerous for regular people to explore. It's dark, there's barely any life and the pressure will kill or destroy pretty much anything we can build. Shit, even if we *could* breathe down there, there's still pressure and *god knows what* down there.
    TL;DR: Fuck the ocean and fuck space.

    • @geologyjohnson7700
      @geologyjohnson7700 2 года назад +23

      Imagine the oceans on an icy moon like Europa where there are no shallow areas or land, there is only the vast planet wide 100 km deep ocean... 😅

    • @kenclarkii2261
      @kenclarkii2261 2 года назад +1

      Yup

    • @Dhips.
      @Dhips. 2 года назад +15

      Warp in 40k is pretty much just winging it. Everything in 40k is nightmare fuel. It's also metal as fuck and I love it.

    • @colt9836
      @colt9836 Год назад +9

      @@Dhips. Pretty much everything in 40k is winging it lol.
      Kinda what happens when literal demons, magic, and technology so advanced that many people believe their flesh and blood to be weaknesses.

    • @olotocolo
      @olotocolo Год назад +3

      I'm not sure but I feel it's more complicated than that. The emperor hiselft creates psychic beacon that is like a lighthouse in hell. And yes, warp is hell it was peaceful afterlife for souls of those who have psychic powers or at least capabilities, but there was a war so drastic, unrelenting, cruel and long it... *warped* that space, created demons and now it's hell.
      And wh40k has many more other ways of travel, Eldars use portals left for them by Old Ones, Necrons travel in ther own technology, Tyranids travel with speed of light and I don't know how TAU moves around.
      But ayway, there are many ways to travel even in the warp, chaos can just go through, humans go around using special psychic shielding, psychic navigators and beacon and orks I think are too stupid to be affected by warp

  • @crafterx1377
    @crafterx1377 2 года назад +923

    Space horror can basically be summarized as
    “Don’t stare in to the abyss. After all it stares back”.
    Doesn’t mean I don’t still love space.. but if even 1% of the VISIBLE (and real) threats from space come toward earth. We are done for.

    • @magic8ball237
      @magic8ball237 2 года назад +27

      You don't even need %1, all you need is a conveniently placed neutron star

    • @nokh3382
      @nokh3382 2 года назад +17

      with space the threat doesn’t even need to come towards us, it just needs to pull us towards it and we’re already screwed because we would be to far or to close to the sun to survive.

    • @nicklang6798
      @nicklang6798 2 года назад +3

      That line needs to be a tag line for a movie

    • @deadlypandaghost
      @deadlypandaghost 2 года назад +2

      Come towards? Nah. Come anywhere close at any point.

    • @balaclavabob001
      @balaclavabob001 2 года назад +11

      I looked into the abyss once and it did stare back ... then it said it liked my coat and we went to get lunch . The abyss is a pretty cool dude .

  • @TallTank
    @TallTank 2 года назад +238

    Hearing Red call a xenomorph the “unholy offspring of a gimp suit and a velociraptor” is probably my favorite thing ever

    • @camiloordonez4906
      @camiloordonez4906 2 года назад +3

      It made me laugh so hard while I was listening to it in the bus

    • @Sam-iu8nb
      @Sam-iu8nb 2 года назад

      Genuinely the funniest thing I've heard in weeks. The whole vid is amazingly well written. But that's the moment my "like" turned to "love".

  • @EternalFireseal
    @EternalFireseal 2 года назад +568

    16:26 Here's a fun one: It's actually the _boiling_ void of space! With virtually zero environmental pressure, there's just not a whole lot holding things together. So, the major problem with being exposed to space isn't freezing or suffocating, it's the materials in your body sublimating, hanging around or a while, and then attempting to exit your body by any means available.

    • @eyald.8252
      @eyald.8252 2 года назад +3

      Technically speaking, space freezes, boils, and roasts you alive
      All at the same time

    • @Imperiused
      @Imperiused 2 года назад +41

      @@eyald.8252 This is what makes hell a very apt metaphor for space

    • @SSD_Penumbra
      @SSD_Penumbra 2 года назад +63

      Oh yeah. You don't freeze in space.
      *You boil alive*

    • @ChimeraMK
      @ChimeraMK 2 года назад +81

      _"You ever see a man die in space? You can tell the ones who held their breath. Their lungs rupture from all that gas expanding. Blood from their mouth like a torn pillow stuffed with red BB's. Stab Girl, she was a little thing. Carried switchblades. She knew to exhale. Watched her for a full minute. Puffed up like she had a peanut allergy. Floating by me with her mouth open, screaming, making no sound. Spit on her tongue boiling."_
      - Red Death, a loving father

    • @FreshZCORD
      @FreshZCORD 2 года назад +1

      terrifying

  • @mage1439
    @mage1439 2 года назад +326

    Something that occurs to me about the agoraphobia of space: it seems like it would be much easier to get past this with, say, three ships traveling together instead of one big ship. Weird, maybe, but being able to look to your left or right and see another ship, at least in my mind, kind of makes it better.

    • @nobledamask
      @nobledamask 2 года назад +60

      It also means you have a better chance of surviving if something does go wrong. If you have two ships and one goes down, you're still flying half your ships.

    • @blackdragonxtra
      @blackdragonxtra 2 года назад +115

      Ooooo, what's that? Comforts and reassurances to strip away slowly and mysteriously? Don't mind if I do...

    • @kotanightshade8989
      @kotanightshade8989 2 года назад +68

      A story that starts with a whole convey of space ships but slowly the numbers are whittled down one by one with no way to stop it until there's only one ship left

    • @vamp_bat_chomp
      @vamp_bat_chomp Год назад +4

      Read illuminae, start with three ships, definitely doesn't end that way lol

    • @a.morphous66
      @a.morphous66 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@kotanightshade8989Battlestar Galactica if the writers were even more eager to make their watchers miserable

  • @agentfuse6416
    @agentfuse6416 2 года назад +287

    "It's not that there's nowhere to run, there's a whole universe out there, it just won't help you" is such a raw and horrifying line.

  • @Arc77crA
    @Arc77crA 2 года назад +180

    I love how my brain automatically read “by mysterious colors unlike any seen on earth…” In Red’s voice

    • @thepresence365
      @thepresence365 2 года назад +14

      To this day, that was one of the bits that made me laugh the most.

    • @laurynwalton
      @laurynwalton 2 года назад +2

      🙋🏼‍♀️

    • @pinkajou656
      @pinkajou656 2 года назад +3

      oh my god me too

  • @geordiebailey8648
    @geordiebailey8648 2 года назад +246

    The Expanse nails a frequently forgotten aspect of space travel: Speed. The acceleration required to actually get anywhere plays havoc on the body. Characters have to go through the ordeal of accelerating to several times Earth's gravity and being crushed into their seat. Characters die just trying to get from A to B in a reasonable time.

    • @MarkusAldawn
      @MarkusAldawn 2 года назад +13

      The Palladium Wars does this too. The Expanse gives a better idea of the emotional lives of spacers, but PW has good, really thought-through combat and a setting I'd put on par with Expanse.

    • @jackmcallister1256
      @jackmcallister1256 2 года назад +7

      John Hadleman's "The Forever War" also does this as well. In addition to other horrors of having Vietnam IN SPACE!!!

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 2 года назад

      Space-Horror?
      PALES in Comparison to the Radicalization-Wave and the horrifying
      traditional Values of the Right-Wingers and Conservatives!
      I mean, seriously, have you seen whats going on nowadays?
      People quote the Handmaid Tales Villains when quoting Conservatives Values,
      even if we ignore Trumpism and/or Conservativsm right-now this Summer lashin-out
      against all LGBT.

    • @MarkusAldawn
      @MarkusAldawn 2 года назад +2

      @@loturzelrestaurant i think the best Horror is the Horror you resonate deepest with, but you are right to say there's ample horrible things in real life.
      Yes, we have seen what's going on nowadays- I don't know that I'd class it as horror, though. I feel like one of the major purposes of horror is to claim ownership over the emotions of terror and fright. You are choosing to sit here to feel terrified. It would be a fairly enviable hypothetical to treat the real world in the same way- as something to be sat and feared for a movie's runtime, as if a discreet, packagable experience. Can you choose to experience transphobia for just two hours of your choosing a week? Can you choose to experience a tyranny over your reproductive rights for thirty minutes every two days while on the way to work?
      Horror is a genre of media, and as such, includes intent. Someone intended for this to be frightening. They intended for you to be scared, and likely you did too while watching it. If they make you scared, you have other emotions, too- appreciation of the art, understanding of the fear, maybe even a sense of control: the monster was in your house, on your screen, at your leisure. You chose to be scared, and now maybe you even get catharsis from the story.
      In real life, there is no safely opting-in to horror. You experience it whether you want to or not, with none of the cushion provided by an experience of a bouquet of emotions. It's just horrible. Not cathartic, but the thing-from-which-catharsis-is-needed.
      Horror is Horror. Real life can only ever be horrible, never Horror.

    • @Narfwak
      @Narfwak 2 года назад

      An inverse of that the Expanse does well is that a *lack* of constant acceleration completely fucks you up. Even a few months in microgravity wrecks havoc on our bodies, and they do a good job of speculating what developing bodies in 1/6-1/3 of Earth G might look like and what chronic health problems they might have.

  • @Galimeer5
    @Galimeer5 2 года назад +84

    "'Up' is more than just a fun direction tigers sometimes come out of"
    That line was so funny, it _interrupted_ me. I had to stop working because I was laughing so hard.

  • @michaelridgaway4488
    @michaelridgaway4488 2 года назад +677

    "Space is scary." As someone who works for a space telescope, the incomprehensible vastness of the universe and the existential dread it brings is just my every day life.
    Still love my job, though.

    • @bcassalino
      @bcassalino 2 года назад +12

      How does it feel like to work for a space telescope?

    • @michaelridgaway4488
      @michaelridgaway4488 2 года назад +8

      @@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 Ha, that's pretty much my whole deal these days.

    • @michaelridgaway4488
      @michaelridgaway4488 2 года назад +11

      @@bcassalino pretty dope! It's nice contributing to the sum of human knowledge, even in my own small way.

    • @easterndragon9339
      @easterndragon9339 2 года назад +32

      The way you said you work "for" the telescope made me think its a sentient being who's also your boss. Like
      "Yeah I work for the space telescope, he's pretty cool, his space jokes are terrible though." Or something like that

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 2 года назад +10

      @@easterndragon9339 NASA hit Singularity _years_ ago, but it turns out that true AI are also giant nerds.

  • @laurdesz9050
    @laurdesz9050 2 года назад +1134

    I just realized that, even after this video, the reason space doesn't scare me nearly as much as it should, is because I grew up near the ocean.
    The ocean holds all the categories of fears that space does (predators from all directions, completely inhospitable to humans, threats in the form of severe weather, fast currents, crushing pressure, freezing Temps, ect), but to me, the main difference? Why I had thallassaphobia for decade but was never really scared of space?
    The ocean will kill you slowly, every time. At least in space, you have fast options.
    ...yeah sorry was just thinking 😅

    • @argr4sh
      @argr4sh 2 года назад +89

      The ocean is beautifully terrifying in indeed similar ways as space can be, and surprisingly enough, the ocean can be even more hostile than space. Remember that it is relatively easier to sustain a habitat in space than deep under the ocean.

    • @sobree9743
      @sobree9743 2 года назад +47

      I grew up about a half hour away from the pacific ocean, and I have to be careful when I visit the beach or else I will literally dissociate thinking about how vass the ocean is.

    • @flipflopzthreeonethree1873
      @flipflopzthreeonethree1873 2 года назад +4

      😰

    • @valenciageode25
      @valenciageode25 2 года назад +36

      Let’s hope Blue doesn’t look through these comments. He already has thallassaphobia. This might kill him.

    • @VillainousMuse
      @VillainousMuse 2 года назад +11

      Well... that's a glass half full perspective if ever I've seen one :P

  • @JohnSmith-dr5zn
    @JohnSmith-dr5zn 2 года назад +601

    Fun fact: the greek word "anthropos" (the one from "anthropology" and all) is a compound word that means "he who looks up"

    • @Ag3nt0fCha0s
      @Ag3nt0fCha0s 2 года назад +4

      Prove it.

    • @JohnSmith-dr5zn
      @JohnSmith-dr5zn 2 года назад +60

      @@Ag3nt0fCha0s it's from "ano" (άνω) and "throsko" (θρώσκω), which mean "up" and "to look" respectively

    • @mermaidismyname
      @mermaidismyname 2 года назад +79

      @@Ag3nt0fCha0s did you seriously just ask someone to prove an etymology claim instead of googling it?

    • @tylercoon1791
      @tylercoon1791 2 года назад +102

      @@JohnSmith-dr5zn bet you had to....look that up....
      _Distant rimshot_

    • @nobledamask
      @nobledamask 2 года назад +42

      @@mermaidismyname Can you really expect intelligent discourse from someone whose name is "AgentOfChaos" in leetspeak?

  • @stevencanter3244
    @stevencanter3244 2 года назад +169

    I feel like a close relative of the "sh*t goes wrong in space" story is the "sh*t goes wrong on the bottom of the ocean" story. both have the claustrophobia/agoraphobia angle and play with similar themes.
    Another fun angle to play with in space/deep sea horror is leaning on the idea that we have always been threatened by whatever particular threat the plot is focused on, but are only just now learning about it. Obliviousness of danger can be deeply unsettling

    • @FreshZCORD
      @FreshZCORD 2 года назад +4

      yeah the ocean one is underrated

    • @blackdragonxtra
      @blackdragonxtra 2 года назад +7

      Don't forget "Shit goes wrong in a cold wasteland."

    • @Fearofthemonster
      @Fearofthemonster 2 года назад

      Ocean is scarier. In space there is nothing out there. You can see it. In the ocean you can't see anything and you know there is something out there. You just don't know what it is.

    • @sharkinator7819
      @sharkinator7819 2 года назад +5

      So, like The Abyss

    • @SynthApprentice
      @SynthApprentice 2 года назад +5

      Being oblivious of the danger, I think, is a huge part of cosmic horror. Cthulhu has been there all along; he could have woken at any time.

  • @avery-gee
    @avery-gee 2 года назад +551

    "As a child, I considered such unknowns sinister. Now, though, I understand they bear no ill will. The universe is, and we are. "
    - Solanum, on the unknowns of space, Outer Wilds.

    • @alphasword5541
      @alphasword5541 2 года назад +19

      Based

    • @greycommotion
      @greycommotion 2 года назад +10

      Wisest of the Nomai in my opinion, and definitely my favourite :)

    • @Oddi0
      @Oddi0 2 года назад +15

      There's a game I wish I could play for the first time again.

    • @AegixDrakan
      @AegixDrakan 2 года назад +7

      @@Oddi0 SAME YO. Gods that game was beautiful and clever.

    • @Aeiouaaaaaaaaa
      @Aeiouaaaaaaaaa 2 года назад +6

      This is the one game I wish I’d had the hardware to play when I found out about it. I experienced it through a playthrough but even so it was one of the most memorable games I’ve ever seen. Like, not to be dramatic but that game changed my life in a pretty measurable way.

  • @jaredjensen1418
    @jaredjensen1418 2 года назад +88

    I think it's really interesting that space also kind of became "futuristic ocean" in literature. Treasure Planet is really on the nose with this, but basically the ocean is a vast empty deathtrap that people travel through to discover new things. And so is space. So many of our stories of seafaring can easily be translated to space. "Lost in space" stories are just futuristic castaway stories.

    • @bluelfsuma
      @bluelfsuma 2 года назад +1

      At least the ocean definitely contains life, that still adheres to the laws of our planet.

    • @zoro115-s6b
      @zoro115-s6b 2 года назад +1

      That's always been how I've seen space. To the possibility that space could contain scary things, my kneejerk response has always been "Awesome! I want to see!"

    • @anonymousmind8402
      @anonymousmind8402 2 года назад +1

      @@bluelfsuma That, and one can at least swim to the nearest lifeboat/raft/driftwood even if they are in their underwear.
      In space, you need a full astronaut suit just to survive in the open. And 'swimming' in space does not work at all.

    • @88smileandnod
      @88smileandnod 2 года назад +2

      just here to declare my undying love for Treasure Planet

  • @halfoftheclam1317
    @halfoftheclam1317 2 года назад +1609

    One of the best Space Horror stories I've read is "Blindsight" by Peter Watts. It's about a first contact situation where the crew sent to meet the aliens realize that the aliens lack any form of sentience, and that the sentience that we humans hold so dear is a mistake in evolution that wastes our energy and makes us vulnerable. In this story, humans may be the only intelligent species in the universe with a sense of "self," and it's going to doom them.

    • @jaiadlakha212
      @jaiadlakha212 2 года назад +134

      I believe it was a love death and robots episode too, the swarm

    • @turtleyapirate5270
      @turtleyapirate5270 2 года назад +85

      Oh jeez that’s horrifying

    • @brll5733
      @brll5733 2 года назад +273

      The aliens claim sentience is an attack and yet, a few hours after meeting humans, deal effortlessly with it and around it.
      In the second book they even communicate.
      It also doesn't explain why so many successfull species on earth have developed a form of it or why it doesn't disappear in humans.
      The author's main argument is "efficiency" but nature doesn't give a crap about that xompared to "effectiveness".
      It's an interesting premise, but as an author track it falls pretty flat, pretty fast.

    • @Ie_Shima
      @Ie_Shima 2 года назад +1

      @@brll5733 Sounds like the author came up with an idea that he thought was really clever, but never took a step back to think about if it would actually work according to the fundamental laws that we know. Kind of like how the aliens from 'A Quiet Place' would be completely useless in real life, because in order to have hearing sharp enough to pick up even the slightest noise at long range would mean that something like a handclap would knock them on their ass, to say nothing of a gunshot.

    • @kazuyakenzaki1320
      @kazuyakenzaki1320 2 года назад +27

      @@brll5733 Dont insects do this kinda thing specifically colony insects

  • @agzzradface3113
    @agzzradface3113 2 года назад +96

    That "space itself is scary" reminds me of a certain incident in a dystopian game where there are warp trains that can take you anywhere in only 10 seconds :D
    How do they work? By opening a portal between dimensions, taking a small detour that takes 20 thousand years, while also stopping time completely inside the train so that no one feels hunger or thirst, nor can they die. After the trip, all passengers get their bodies back, their memories wiped, and are left to think about how amazing technology is :)

    • @spidey5558
      @spidey5558 Год назад +10

      We don't talk about Love Town...

    • @Captain.Mystic
      @Captain.Mystic Год назад +9

      In W Corp, your trip may last 10 seconds but your experience will last a lifetime.

    • @Dusk_Shade
      @Dusk_Shade Год назад +6

      I know you said it was a dystopia, but that honestly just seems _wildly_ inefficient. Like, who does that benefit?

    • @a.morphous66
      @a.morphous66 10 месяцев назад +10

      @@Dusk_ShadeThe jobs they work for benefit immensely, because their employees can commute near-instantly to arrive on time from anywhere in the world. And it’s not like anyone inside remembers it happening.

    • @mr.cup6yearsago211
      @mr.cup6yearsago211 10 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@Dusk_ShadeThe in-universe explanation is that the transportation company, W Corp, has a shady deal with T Corp to collect large quantities of time for them (don’t ask me how one goes about it collecting a metaphysical concept, I have no idea), so it’s in their best interest to keep their warp trains running through the spacetime continuum for as long as possible, and if it gets the unwitting passengers where they’re going 10 real world seconds later anyway, then W Corp has basically printed free time to then sell to T Corp.
      It is very strange, and the lore of Library of Ruina has a lot of things like this-magical weapons that get stronger the more you dedicate yourself to your goal, giant pendulums that inexplicably predict the future because people believe that they can, a bus that grinds people down into their base elements and then reassembles those elements into fuel, some really crazy sci-fi shit.

  • @silvergiovanni2658
    @silvergiovanni2658 2 года назад +192

    I would like to add one more point to the “space is terrifying column; entropy. That no matter what we do or how smart we evolve into after the remaining millions of years we have left, the sun will burn out, the universe will expand into an even greater infinity ripping everything at an atomic level. Well that was cheery, thanks for the vid

    • @cam4636
      @cam4636 2 года назад +22

      Embrace the meaninglessness of existence, maaan

    • @DFloyd84
      @DFloyd84 2 года назад +27

      While that is a possibility, the fact that it will happen so, SO far into the future makes it irrelevant to our day-to-day existence and not worth worrying about.

    • @DoveJS
      @DoveJS 2 года назад +11

      I find that part comforting. Death can retire, leave the universe behind, and pursue something else new and exciting.

  • @apocryphalbebop
    @apocryphalbebop 2 года назад +217

    The fact that Red effectively made me believe that the entire known cosmos just being _literal, actual Hell_ is a better alternative to what it *really is* makes this my favorite trope talk to date.

    • @orrorsaness5942
      @orrorsaness5942 2 года назад +3

      IKR

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 2 года назад +6

      I saw a video that posited that the hell from Event Horizon is The Warp from Warhammer 40K.

  • @alexschott2092
    @alexschott2092 2 года назад +628

    “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” - Arthur C. Clarke

    • @k.5425
      @k.5425 2 года назад +6

      Does "The silent sea" count as space horror?

    • @whafflete6721
      @whafflete6721 2 года назад +2

      @@k.5425 Looks like it?

    • @danieladamczyk4024
      @danieladamczyk4024 2 года назад

      I prefere the silence.

    • @rameball
      @rameball 2 года назад +3

      I mean surely we aren't the only life in ever-expanding universe even if it's just microbes there's still some life out there, I'm certain of it

  • @dontmindmejustlurking4012
    @dontmindmejustlurking4012 2 года назад +173

    Although this isn't specifically unique to space horror, one of my favorite tropes used in this genre is isolation combined with declining resources. It's terrifying in a very realistic way. The idea of being trapped either alone, or with a small group of people that slowly drives each other crazy with little food and water is a situation that's really easy to insert yourself into. To me, the most scary stories are the ones that feel like they could actually happen.

  • @Archgeek0
    @Archgeek0 2 года назад +215

    Hehehe, the glee behind Red's voice in getting to speak at mild length about astrophysical phenomena was a delight to behold with my ears. It's good when creators are _audibly_ having fun.

    • @riverstyx7251
      @riverstyx7251 2 года назад +7

      It filled me with joy to hear someone rant about how terrifyingly and existentially fascinating space is in the same manner that I would rant about space to the point my friends would tell me to shut up because I’m giving them an existential crisis. Red and I are of the same mind in this video in wondering why there needs to be a content warning because we’re so deep into the horrors of space we forgot it was scary

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 2 года назад +1

      And sh seems a hug atrinomy nerd and , that shows, you feel the passion and nerdiness.

    • @BlackEpyon
      @BlackEpyon 2 года назад

      Meh. She describes space phenomena like it's something truely terrifying. Like, "The Sun is a million times the size of Earth! It could swallow Earth whole and not even notice!"
      But meanwhile, space enthusiasts (never mind an actual astrophysicist) is like, "Oh please. It's really quite average."

  • @peterh5165
    @peterh5165 2 года назад +219

    ...“Up is more than just a fun direction tigers come from sometimes.”
    Not just tigers, also "drop- bears" in Australia. LOL

    • @Callyn9x
      @Callyn9x 2 года назад +12

      A.K.A: how I learned that Koalas aren't the cute things most think they are from my aussie friend!

    • @johannageisel5390
      @johannageisel5390 2 года назад +12

      The animal I most associate with "up" are all birds of prey and leopards.
      Leopards can probably be found in trees far more often than tigers.

    • @papercamera2989
      @papercamera2989 2 года назад +5

      @@Callyn9x I’m sorry to break to you but you just got pranked by Australia

  • @PhysicsGamer
    @PhysicsGamer 2 года назад +382

    An old favorite HFY story of mine (title was something along the lines of "The Veil of Madness", I think) combined the "space is somehow malevolent" variant of this with the old "to aliens, humans are the aliens" thing - the result was that there was a huge stretch of space that literally nobody could go into without being driven mad and was thought to be totally devoid of life... until humans emerged from it, wearing primitive full-encapsulation space suits and using poor quality "radios" to communicate since unlike everyone else we didn't find an already-spacefaring civilization on our doorstep to standardize from.
    As a result, the first impression on the galaxy by humanity was a terrifying faceless monster emerging from the Veil of Madness, sending incomprehensible static-filled signals, getting into a bit of a skirmish, and then turning around to return to the area that is so unknowable literally nobody has ever survived going in.

    • @theoleadfoot2864
      @theoleadfoot2864 2 года назад +51

      Holy shit thats badass

    • @AskMia411
      @AskMia411 2 года назад +47

      *quietly adds this to my reading list*

    • @johannageisel5390
      @johannageisel5390 2 года назад +13

      Neat. :)
      Gonna read it tomorrow.

    • @PhysicsGamer
      @PhysicsGamer 2 года назад +33

      I just went and reread it myself - seems I got a couple of details wrong but the title and general idea were correct. Just a heads up in case people go find it and are confused.

    • @missZoey5387
      @missZoey5387 2 года назад +2

      HFY?

  • @matthewzard
    @matthewzard 2 года назад +1078

    Ancient culture: “wow, the sky is beautiful and so helpful for navigation”
    Normal people now:”wow, space is beautiful and exciting”
    Scientists and writers: “the universe is fucking terrifying”
    Edit: thanks for telling me about the spelling mistake.

    • @livingcorpse5664
      @livingcorpse5664 2 года назад +74

      Scientists see black holes and think its cool and exciting. But yes writers are like "the universe is scary!"

    • @Jordan-kq3qw
      @Jordan-kq3qw 2 года назад +49

      Oh no, not the Tarrifs, i must escape to the one place uncorrupted by cappitalism: SPACE. Oh wait. NOOOoooo

    • @purpleghost106
      @purpleghost106 2 года назад +21

      That typo though. lol
      I mean space Tarrifs are Terrifying, but mostly because of the implications of who is doing them and why. Also, where's my towel, I suddenly have concerns there might be a space highway building project afoot. ;P

    • @glitzarprincess627
      @glitzarprincess627 2 года назад +7

      the typo makes it better 😂

    • @cedartheyeah.justyeah.3967
      @cedartheyeah.justyeah.3967 2 года назад +2

      Space is full of things that are basically eldritch abominations, and apparently they want our money.

  • @Raidho_Sketch
    @Raidho_Sketch 2 года назад +143

    By stars, Red is on such a roll. You can literally *hear* the excitement.

  • @JustAnotheNeoSilver
    @JustAnotheNeoSilver 2 года назад +179

    The hyperspace "Blind Spot" in Niven's Known Space stories is actually pretty horrifying. One story has the protagonist look into it, and he proceeds to forget what it looked like, forgets how to see, forgets he has eyes until someone manages to close the shutter. The whole moment in just incredibly creepy.

  • @asiabrew81
    @asiabrew81 2 года назад +183

    "The unholy offspring of a gimp suit and a Velociraptor" is quite possibly the best description of a xenomorph I've ever heard.
    Simultaneously the kawaii'ing of xenomorph eggs was not what I planned to be the highlight of my day.

    • @RvEijndhoven
      @RvEijndhoven 2 года назад +5

      That description single-handedly eliminated my fear of the xenomorphs. I can no longer take them seriously.

    • @masonjones7777
      @masonjones7777 2 года назад +4

      @@RvEijndhoven did you know that to make the original costume they used real human teeth and other disturbing materials?
      I won't go into full detail, but you should look it up.

    • @asiabrew81
      @asiabrew81 2 года назад

      @@masonjones7777 oh ya. There's some fun kinky facts there that really hold up the "gimp" side of the descriptor.

    • @loturzelrestaurant
      @loturzelrestaurant 2 года назад

      Space-Horror? PALES in Comparison to the Radicalization-Wave and the horrifying traditional Values of the Right-Wingers and Conservatives! I mean, seriously, have you seen what's going on nowadays? People quote the Handmaid Tales Villains when quoting Conservatives Values, even if we ignore Trumpism and/or Conservativsm right-now this Summer lashin-out
      against all LGBT.
      Be my guest: Watch Telltale Fireside Chat, Emma Thorne, Professor Dave and
      Holy Koolaid document-well the Descend-into-Madness
      we all have to Face.

    • @masonjones7777
      @masonjones7777 2 года назад +2

      @@loturzelrestaurant Yes, right now are world is messed up, but what scares you more?
      the fact that this world is screwed up?
      Or the fact that we have nowhere to go if we can't fix it?
      This is it.
      This is all we got unless a miracle of science comes up with faster methods of travel.

  • @Mrbiggunsomally
    @Mrbiggunsomally 2 года назад +101

    OSP- "If the heroes have nowhere to run, the audience has nothing to root for."
    The Road- "Hold my dad."

  • @CapitainCutlet
    @CapitainCutlet 2 года назад +1088

    So, naturally, the most logical followup will be the "Space is not nearly as scary as we thought" AKA "Humans are Space Orcs"/"Earth is space Australia"?

    • @profeseurchemical
      @profeseurchemical 2 года назад +317

      the thing with space australia, is that earth australia still had problems with invasive species, like rats, or the british.

    • @blarg2429
      @blarg2429 2 года назад +273

      @@profeseurchemical You just listed the same invasive species twice.

    • @KelpieRider
      @KelpieRider 2 года назад +89

      ​@@blarg2429 this whole thread is gold but that really sent me 😂

    • @Broomer52
      @Broomer52 2 года назад +94

      While I like the concept most of those stories tend to be stories that completely overblow the abilities of humanity and earth to the point it’s kinda cringe. We could very well be Space Orcs, however it’s extremely unlikely we’re Superman and that what those stories tend to boil down to.

    • @andresmarrero8666
      @andresmarrero8666 2 года назад +61

      Those stories tend to swing too far in the opposite direction to the point it becomes comical. A nice middle ground is needed where yes there are plenty of stuff that can kill you just like anywhere else but we aren't helpless either. That and not everything wants us dead.

  • @VerrouSuo
    @VerrouSuo 2 года назад +144

    me, an astrophysics student:
    *sees trope talk upload*
    ~it’s about space~
    me: *takes out notes binder*

    • @bubblesbomb8949
      @bubblesbomb8949 2 года назад +7

      So, what little extra bit of information from your studies helped you go on internal tangent from the conversation of fiction and reality?

    • @phoenxflyr
      @phoenxflyr 2 года назад +3

      SAME

    • @eshbena
      @eshbena 2 года назад +2

      @@bubblesbomb8949 tbf, I didn't learn any physics that I didn't already know, but she put in such an interesting way that it did reframe things a bit. :)

    • @op4000exe
      @op4000exe 2 года назад +5

      For the record if anyone deals with existential angst, you may or may not want to look these up.
      No mention of gamma ray bursts, vacuum decay, strange matter, earth turning into a rogue planet by a close encounter with a smaller star, primordial black holes, relativistic kill vihecles, etc etc. I am honestly a bit disappointed.

    • @coyraig8332
      @coyraig8332 2 года назад +1

      @@op4000exe "don't look up"

  • @labrys-and-lillies9963
    @labrys-and-lillies9963 2 года назад +163

    The content warning had me worried that I would be scared of space by the end of this, but when the talk of black holes, just about the scariest thing that we know about in the cosmos, just made me whisper "space is cool," I realized that my priorities might be broken in the best way possible.

    • @AskMia411
      @AskMia411 2 года назад +28

      I had the same reaction. Space isn’t terrifying to look at, it’s awe inspiring and interesting. Sure, there are hazards and things to avoid getting close to, but as long as you take those threats seriously and don’t poke at them or take necessary precautions, there’s so much to learn and explore and it’s fascinating!

    • @paulgibbon5991
      @paulgibbon5991 2 года назад +1

      I started watching a lot of space-related videos during the height of Covid, and I found it reassuring and inspiring. Just the idea of how many wonders we've found from a distant glance at our own solar system, and how it preserves the human spirit of exploration. I mean, I grew up thinking of Pluto as "that boring little ball on the edge of the solar system"....but now, turns out it's got five moons of its own, it has ice volcanoes and a possible subsurface ocean, it's nowhere near the most remote planetoid (Sedna's orbit is CRAZY)....and it's beautiful. And there's so much fascinating stuff being discovered about Saturn, Mars, Venus, the asteroids.....and we're already getting data about the amazing weirdness of extrasolar planets, including several that might have life-friendly conditions.

    • @VanNessy97
      @VanNessy97 2 года назад +13

      Space is cool, isn't it? It's fucked up and terrifying and beautiful, if you know just how to look at it.

    • @nerdyvids1
      @nerdyvids1 2 года назад +15

      Never mistake not sharing someone else’s particular fears for something being wrong with you. Some people are terrified of snakes, others gleefully pet them. Some people have existential dread about space, age, or the inevitability of death, and some people just don’t care.
      Similarly, never assume that your personal fears are universal.

    • @banananana7412
      @banananana7412 2 года назад +3

      me too! for me it's more like space is utterly terrifying and breath-takingly awesome. those two facts correlate and contribute to each other. space is awesome!!!

  • @Dhips.
    @Dhips. 2 года назад +318

    I love how in Warhammer 40k FTL travel "warp" is so fucked it has a chance to not only kill you or trap you for an indefinite amount of time, but even if you make it out you might not even end up where you wanted to go and might just be lost forever. In 40k dying is a privilege.

    • @ottorask7676
      @ottorask7676 Год назад +20

      Praise the Emperor for lighting our way through The Warp.

    • @colt9836
      @colt9836 Год назад +21

      Oh and you better hope that the Imperium sacrificed the baseline number of witches that day or else you won't be able to navigate literal Hell. Because the Emperor's psychic light is how humans math out where to go.
      Not only that, but you just gotta pray your shields work and withstand the onslaught of storms made from literal rage, lust, and despair and not to mention demons just walking around.

    • @minestar2247
      @minestar2247 Год назад +6

      That's so grimdark no wonder why there is always war

    • @DinsRune
      @DinsRune Год назад +14

      Shit, you can have a warp jump that feels like it took ten years, and arrive at your destination before you left.

    • @jocosesonata
      @jocosesonata Год назад +7

      @@DinsRune
      Alternatively, spend five minutes in the warp and come out a thousand years later.

  • @l.tc.5032
    @l.tc.5032 2 года назад +259

    Space without the fictional horrors is already scary. Ever read The Martian? A completely scientifically accurate planet from the real world almost kills our protagonist dozens of times by just not being earth.

    • @Biscotum
      @Biscotum 2 года назад +70

      I think the most harrowing moment in the book comes from the most mundane thing: he's counting potatoes, doing some back of the napkin math, and coming to the realization that he's over a hundred days of food short.

    • @SpottedHares
      @SpottedHares 2 года назад +17

      Or the real Apollo 13, or what almost happened to Aleksey Leonov.

    • @vinx.909
      @vinx.909 2 года назад +19

      i mean you can easily do the same story on earth. mountains, icy tundra's, deserts, any large body of water. humans aren't tough animals, we're fucking fragile as shit. i think (haven't seen it, just know the premice) the martian is just horrifying because people know he's there, and that he needs help, but to give it will take so much time.

    • @elainegoates9792
      @elainegoates9792 2 года назад +5

      ​@@SpottedHares well, wind on Mars is less dense than Earth, so the set up wouldn't happen, but otherwise, yeah.

    • @l.tc.5032
      @l.tc.5032 2 года назад +2

      @@elainegoates9792 "But hey it's just a set up! A movie/book set up! We'll let it slide!"

  • @danthespaceman9747
    @danthespaceman9747 2 года назад +74

    “If you aren’t scared of Space, this Video might Change that”
    Me: *You Underestimate My Love Of The Cosmos*

    • @cam4636
      @cam4636 2 года назад +7

      This guy gets it. You could even say they are, in fact, a Space Man.
      I understand the vast and unfeeling cosmos have a reputation to maintain, but I have elected to ignore that & instead embrace the wonder which comes from realizing humans on Earth are not even the _beginning_ of scratching the surface

    • @cxfxcdude
      @cxfxcdude 2 года назад +1

      Space is so cool. By Markiplier.
      A lovely pallet cleanser if you need one

  • @lemmonboy6459
    @lemmonboy6459 2 года назад +224

    “It’s not that there’s no where to run. There’s a whole universe out there. It just *wont help you.* “
    Raw as hell line Jesus

    • @travispluid3603
      @travispluid3603 2 года назад +4

      Really, it is. It feels like a Villain line.

  • @quintonclothier6171
    @quintonclothier6171 2 года назад +63

    My favourite work of Space Horror is Metroid Fusion. The premise is that badass Intergalactic bounty hunter Samus Aran is called in to guard a research team on planet SR-388, which is where the Metroids lived, until she was hired to exterminate them on a previous mission. There, they encounter a strange mutation of a species that previously existed on SR-388, which Samus takes down, but its corpse morphs into a floating blob that infects Samus. Her suit is surgically removed, and sent to a research station out in space, and she is injected with Metroid DNA, as they were what kept this mysterious X Parasite from spreading. This saves her life, and turns her into the only person able to combat them, at the cost of being more frail than normal, and being deathly weak to cold. She is then sent out to the research station that had her infected suit pieces, to look into a breach in the containment bay. Eventually, after witnessing the devastation caused by the X infecting, killing, and mutating everything it touches, she runs into the mysterious saboteur: a full power X version of herself, who hunts her as if she were a Metroid.
    With that, Fusion has set the stage. You’re trapped on the station, not because the bay doors won’t open, or because your spaceship is busted, but because of your duty. You’re the only one who can do this, and if even a single infected life form gets out, the universe is screwed. She gets more powerful by the end of the game, but at that point, you’re on a time crunch. The X are comparable to the Flood, or the Tyranids, but fortunately, you were lucky enough to catch the beginning of their second attempt at universal assimilation. Because the Metroids weren’t just Xenomorphs, they were essentially Xenomorphs bioengineered to kill the Flood.

  • @bunnywaffles1190
    @bunnywaffles1190 2 года назад +819

    Don't worry, I've always known that space is terrifying beyond belief, in some ways that humans as a species simply didn't evolve to cope with or comprehend at all!

    • @Greendalewitch
      @Greendalewitch 2 года назад +6

      @@paulwaltersheherfeministvl521 Have you seen The Yellow Sign?

    • @salvadortoscano2534
      @salvadortoscano2534 2 года назад +11

      And Gundam went and said, "Nah, humans were *made* for space" xD

    • @bluelfsuma
      @bluelfsuma 2 года назад

      @@paulwaltersheherfeministvl521 I know you're AxxL.

    • @dallindespain5082
      @dallindespain5082 2 года назад +1

      @@Greendalewitch you obviously haven't learned enough about space read "a breif history of time" for some horror and knowledge and try to wrap your head around it whenever you're bored it won't work, but you won't be bored anymore

    • @Greendalewitch
      @Greendalewitch 2 года назад

      @@dallindespain5082 So have you seen The Yellow Sign?

  • @utubrGaming
    @utubrGaming 2 года назад +224

    Me, a fan of 40K: Ah, just a regular Tuesday then.
    Even before you add the sadist space elves, the genocidal grasshoppers, the furious fungi and actual, literal, hell itself.

    • @sartdk9111
      @sartdk9111 2 года назад +15

      Right, I'm just getting into 40k but space horror is so much fun

    • @AccidentalNinja
      @AccidentalNinja 2 года назад +24

      Ah, 40k: where everything is a monster.

    • @DarkFlame96
      @DarkFlame96 2 года назад +24

      Don't forget about the body horror techno cultist

    • @TycoonTitian01
      @TycoonTitian01 2 года назад +14

      Or that the not flood may have already eaten every other galaxy

    • @TycoonTitian01
      @TycoonTitian01 2 года назад +12

      And they are literally coming from every direction

  • @bobaoriley1912
    @bobaoriley1912 2 года назад +101

    I never thought of Majora’s mask as space horror. That’s an interesting horror definition. I only thought of it as monster horror but space horror makes more sense.

    • @spacebutterfly2873
      @spacebutterfly2873 2 года назад +11

      I always see Majora's Mask as more existential / eldritch horror since I interpreted the moon as not being from space. I don't think space exists in the Zelda universe, it's like the realm of the gods or something

    • @coyraig8332
      @coyraig8332 2 года назад +1

      @@spacebutterfly2873 There's also the method the "moon" comes down

    • @rmsgrey
      @rmsgrey 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, Majora's Mask is more space/cosmic adjacent - the threat is "ancient evil artifact attempts to go nuclear" and dropping the moon is just the chosen method.

    • @tinyetoile5503
      @tinyetoile5503 2 года назад +1

      I mean, there ARE aliens too... 🤔

    • @bobaoriley1912
      @bobaoriley1912 2 года назад +1

      @@spacebutterfly2873 It is definitely existential with how they show the reactions of the citizens of clock town.

  • @wiseguy01
    @wiseguy01 2 года назад +205

    As basically a lifelong fan of Cosmic/Scifi Horror(the horror genre in general), I enjoy the larger and more diverse scale of terror that space and other unexplored dimensions can offer. Like I just don't find most traditional horror films to be all that scary... just entertaining.
    The scariest monsters in cinema and literature for me are the ones that I can't really comprehend. I find a creature like the Thing more frightening than Jason as we can humanize Jason but the Thing? We don't even know what it wants, let alone understand it.
    The cosmic entity in Event Horizon is ten times scarier than some random ghost in some random haunted house for me... as the mere speculation that arises from its existence alone would utterly shatter peoples entire world views in an instant.
    A scary monster is much more frightening when you can't really give it a motive. Removing the mystery leads to it becoming more mundane. It's just much more terrifying when you don't really know the enemy and it is as alien to you as is possible... just my two cents.

    • @Cheezmonka
      @Cheezmonka 2 года назад +18

      For me what makes humanized or otherwise personified horror entities utterly terrifying sometimes is that I can understand on a fundamental level that they're not that different from me, or from anyone really. Someone like your own mother could have been a horrific monster with just a few changes in her early life, for example. Add to that the fact that real life people can and have committed unthinkable atrocities and I sometimes find myself unable to stomach realistic thrillers and horror films while being fine with things like Lovecraftian evil elder gods.

    • @jessicatatum7769
      @jessicatatum7769 2 года назад +4

      Try reading Shards of Earth by Adrian Tchaikovsky for a really great cosmic scare :)

    • @TheEpicGalaxy21
      @TheEpicGalaxy21 2 года назад +4

      Technically, aren't spooky ghosts and monsters also shattering our world views? Well, atleast ghosts can. They're (in most cases) spirits of the dead! The dead back alive! I don't know about you, but that's kind of breaking one of the fundamental rules of life as we know it, that death is inevitable and permanent and irreversible. Then again, most horror movies probably wouldn't let that info sink in or fully realize the ramifications of that so you don't really feel that horrified about it. That or we've been super desensitized to it thanks to zillions of ghost horror movies. It's like Zombies, it was scary at first, but now that it's been done a bajillion times, it's more mundane.
      That and also just good film making, sometimes non-space horror movies can also be scary, it just has to be done right. Psychological horror is a thing. But you do you. I think we'd all scream the same whether it's a ghost, zombie, monster, bad guy or cosmic entity if it happened in real life.

    • @FreshZCORD
      @FreshZCORD 2 года назад

      Its like the idea that some man just wanna watch the world burn

    • @wiseguy01
      @wiseguy01 2 года назад +5

      ​@@TheEpicGalaxy21 agree to an extent. Most things in horror movies if encountered in real life would force us to thoroughly reevaluate our thoughts on the universe. It always kinda bothered me how the protags in these films just... get over it by the end and go off into the sunset as if the afterlife was not just confirmed to be real or that a dream demon didn't just murder all their friends.
      Like that knowledge and experience should haunt them forever. Never trusting a dark room kinda traumatized.
      But I still think that Cosmic/Space Horror is more interesting and terrifying, the scale of the threat is so much more amped up. Like encountering the cosmic entity in Event Horizon is basically the equivalent to finding out that not only does God exist, he is also a colossal sadistic Lovecraftian nightmare. Seeing a werewolf would scar me, seeing a cosmic god would destroy my sanity.
      I mean, space is still mostly unfamiliar to us(the audience) and imagining the horrors it could provide is interesting. Not least of all because who is to say that something as terrifying as the Thing or Alien doesn't actually exist and we've just yet to encounter it?
      Like cosmic horror can really mess people up on a deep level sometimes just by making them... think very intensely about a subject they otherwise would not have... Years ago a woman who later became my best friend told me that a cosmic horror film involving religion she had seen, not only terrified her when she was younger, but it made her abandon Catholicism.
      "How do we know for sure who we're praying to, and what if prayers make him stronger?"
      That was her reasoning for doing so and it took a cosmic horror film to completely change her beliefs and make her question blind obedience to religion. That is something that the majority of more mainstream horror films are not capable of doing. I mean for all we know the cosmic entity in Event Horizon is God and we've all been duped into praying it gets us... that is scary.

  • @BlackKnightOfTheWind
    @BlackKnightOfTheWind 2 года назад +241

    I was hoping Red would mention Reboot in this one, everything about The Web in that show messed me up for years. Though I guess that happens when a three-year old is exposed to out-of-nowhere cosmic horror.

    • @miniraptor3211
      @miniraptor3211 2 года назад +11

      She has to mention either Reboot or ATLA in every video. It's just a law now.

    • @LeoiCaangWan
      @LeoiCaangWan 2 года назад

      @@miniraptor3211 Don't forget the DCAU

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 2 года назад +1

      And its not wrong, the internet is an as unimaginable sea of wonders and horrors.

  • @NarckarthGames
    @NarckarthGames 2 года назад +103

    I love Warhammer's take with the Tyranids. How they just kinda keep appearing into our galaxy from a different side each time. Implying the milkyway is just sorrounded on all sides by a malignant force of nature that only seeks to consume and according to all evidence has never been unsuccessful.

    • @Phhase
      @Phhase 2 года назад

      Even better: The 'Nids are actually RUNNING from something.

  • @richardiv385
    @richardiv385 2 года назад +344

    Is this our first OSP content warning!?
    This should be good

    • @xmoore5659
      @xmoore5659 2 года назад +35

      No, that would be Queer Coded Villains.

    • @nerosoul2506
      @nerosoul2506 2 года назад +12

      @@xmoore5659 possibly had mini ones in lovecraft

  • @nerdletter3773
    @nerdletter3773 2 года назад +33

    I swear, the Flood is the sole reason I had nightmares about people around me being corrupted or betraying me for YEARS as a kid. I was playing Halo 3 with my best friend at the time, and I had watched him play Halo before so I knew what the Flood was already. I wasn't ready for how different it was watching him defeat the Flood with unwavering confidence and me actually having to face the Flood myself alongside him. It was terrifying.

    • @thekoifishcoyote8762
      @thekoifishcoyote8762 Год назад

      The flood was so terrifying I never played past them in the campaign

    • @pizza-for-mountains
      @pizza-for-mountains Год назад

      Whoever animated the Flood infection transformations is either completely unfazed or traumatized. Imagine looking at that for weeks.

    • @olotocolo
      @olotocolo Год назад

      @@pizza-for-mountainsI know some character artists personally, belive me it's "unfazed". They find some police photos from crime scene and think "oh, neat reference to how layers of skin can separate

  • @HermanVonPetri
    @HermanVonPetri 2 года назад +103

    "Space the final frontier is absolutely terrifying."
    Even William Shatner, of Star Trek's Captain Kirk fame, had this reaction when he went suborbital in a recent Blue Origin flight. His first statement after landing described his feeling of space as just "death."

    • @JavaBum
      @JavaBum 2 года назад +8

      For a man who has made it his life to be able to talk about things, watching him after he landed was awesome. He was at a loss for words to describe what he just experienced. That, in and of itself, was amazing.

  • @TrueTgirl
    @TrueTgirl 2 года назад +236

    Y'know, of everything in here, the only slight anxiety I actually felt was the one about stuff like meteors because that just seems like a thing that could really happen with our present understanding of the universe. We know it's happened before. So thank you for taking the extra moment to explicitly alleviate worry from that bit lol.

    • @luigivercotti6410
      @luigivercotti6410 2 года назад +11

      Oh, just fyi, it sometimes happens that a new meteor flies by an unexpected angle so fast that by the time anyone has detected it and figured out its orbit, it's way too late to stop it. These news always end with "Well, we detected it but it _has_ already missed us, so I guess there's nothing to worry about"

    • @pandoragoldspan7012
      @pandoragoldspan7012 2 года назад +29

      @@luigivercotti6410 stop trying to scare them those aren't detected in time because they're tiny. anything dangerous we absolutely see in time

    • @luigivercotti6410
      @luigivercotti6410 2 года назад +8

      @@pandoragoldspan7012 That's true enough. The vast majority of those are small enough that they would either disintegrate in the atmosphere, or only minor damage, like the one that fell in Russia; They're not planet-busters.
      Or, at least, they haven't been, so far. There's nothing to stop a bigger meteor from having an eccentric enough orbit with a big enough period that the first we ever see of it will be with less time to impact than anyone could use. It's unlikely, sure, but it's not unfeasible.
      Earth gets peppered with tiny unaccounted rocks all the time. Sure, they're harmless in the vast majority of them. But it only takes one.

    • @anonymousfellow8879
      @anonymousfellow8879 2 года назад +5

      Honestly, OP? Same.
      The fact that space is a relatively hot/cold apathetic vastness that can eat me and spits out objects that can eat me yet makes MOAR objects (some of which can spontaneously be Useful) via splosions and Oh Are They All So So Pretty is *exactly* the appeal of space to me
      …the only existential dread I get from it is the ol’ theoretical Universal Cold Death where it all just. Ends. No more yo-yo recycling splosions effect. It’s gone. I’m okay with something being too vast to ever be reachable that would apatherically devour me so long as it’s a self-sustaining system. But all the stars blowing out and big chunky rocks and/or gas bubbles being pushed too far apart to ever fuse? THAT’s as depressing as, say, IF humanity is somehow kicking around after the Sun hits its midlife crisis and noms the inner planets like a burger binge for catharsis…there won’t be anything “close” enough to observe beyond our galaxy and/or galaxy arm and/or solar system depending on where whatever rock and bubbles humanity’s still clinging to gets, y’know, ejected.
      Humanity being very small and very fragile and very, very far away? No issue.
      All The Stuff that could easily rip us apart if our planet wanders too far from the sun’s toddler leash tether just…ending? THERE’S the existential crisis

    • @atk05003
      @atk05003 2 года назад +5

      We don't need to worry about meteors hitting Earth. A lot of smart people are already making careers out of worrying about it for us.
      My first existential crisis was when I was learning about space. I was having trouble trying to imagine the distances I was reading about, because they were just so BIG. Then I realized that we talk about an infinite universe, which means that I wasn't even close to understanding the scope of a tiny fraction of the universe. I had a panic attack and avoided thinking about infinity until High School.

  • @ThatChristianMetaIhead
    @ThatChristianMetaIhead 2 года назад +100

    I once heard a fictional story about a experiment that was basically how isolation works in space. A few people were sent to space and instructed to all remain in their own rooms, which had lots of stuff to keep your mind off of it, for however long the experiment was(can't remember). mc's door disappeared and over a few years without ever feeling hungry the earth, moon, sun, and everything else in our solar system disappeared until the stars started disappearing too. The mc ended up trying to kill himself by ramming his body into the window of his room several times until the other people on board called off the experiment because they could hear mc trying to kill himself. As soon as they entered the room everything returned and only five minutes had past.
    Edit: probably Magnus archives

    • @StarshipVGer
      @StarshipVGer 2 года назад +25

      That makes me think of The Magnus archives, they have a similar story

    • @jagw4832
      @jagw4832 2 года назад +1

      @@StarshipVGer I thought the same thing

    • @Sojoboscribe
      @Sojoboscribe 2 года назад +6

      I think that's the plot of the very first Twilight Zone episode, "Where Is Everybody?"

    • @ikebirchum6591
      @ikebirchum6591 2 года назад +5

      @@StarshipVGer it is almost exactly the plot of episode 57: Personal Space

  • @meoilzealon
    @meoilzealon 2 года назад +59

    I love how The Expanse makes the scary thing your own ship accelerating too quickly. Yeah sure, it has a mysterious force which threatens the solar system, but also consistently you can't run away cause you can't go faster than the enemy or you die. We don't need new and exciting physics to kill people, the ones around are already good enough.

    • @rommdan2716
      @rommdan2716 2 года назад +1

      I still want my gravity gun tho

    • @paulsmart4672
      @paulsmart4672 Год назад +1

      But that bit where it's like. "So the way I see it: I'm still Amos. I just know some things I didn't used to know."
      "Yeah."
      "But Cap, one of the things I know now... those things out there in the dark? They're gonna kill us all."

    • @olotocolo
      @olotocolo Год назад +1

      one of more interesting ""horror scenarios" i have seen recently was that scene when guy invented the most efficient engine ever, but didn't knew that yet. there is something poetically cruel in being killed by being a genius and revolutionazing humankind

    • @mitchell3593
      @mitchell3593 Год назад +1

      ​@@olotocoloalso the fact that in that universe, that engine was so efficient, 200 years later its still accelerating and is now a star in the night sky

    • @VoxAstra-qk4jz
      @VoxAstra-qk4jz 4 месяца назад

      ​@paulsmart4672 "An empty apartment, a missing family, that's creepy. But this is like finding a military base with no one on it. Fighters and tanks idling on the runway with no drivers. This is bad juju. Something wrong happened here."

  • @kipofthemany2213
    @kipofthemany2213 2 года назад +37

    I do like that while Red is expounding about how flipping terrifying space is, she also points out that space is really cool

  • @timothymclean
    @timothymclean 2 года назад +104

    5:51: Red mentions that body-snatcher alien invasions got popular around the Red Scare era, but she didn't mention that OG "aliens just park their battleships in orbit and invade" alien invasions got popular as an outgrowth of a genre called "invasion literature," which was basically the same but with German battleships parking in the English Channel instead.

    • @ZKP314
      @ZKP314 2 года назад

      I wonder how much of the latter was written before, during, and after World War 1.

    • @georgethompson913
      @georgethompson913 2 года назад

      Or zeppelin motherships

    • @Greyinkling276
      @Greyinkling276 2 года назад +1

      Sometimes the aliens are a reflection of our own colonialism, sometimes the aliens are a reflection of our paranoia about spies, sometimes we're the baddies to the aliens in ways that reflect we're baddies to each other... alien invasion stories are always about real world politics and have always been. Even the ones where we are the scrappy underdogs who fight off invaders, it's still about glorifying aspects of war to deflect from its horrors which is even more political.

    • @phastinemoon
      @phastinemoon 2 года назад

      She might not have known about that - we already have Lindsay Ellis’ video on Independence Day and War of the Worlds.

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 2 года назад +1

      @@phastinemoon That is indeed possible. It's also possible that explaining that properly would take a minute or so of context otherwise irrelevant to the video. Either way, I don't care; I only care about explaining this interesting bit of literary history to people who scroll deep enough into the comment section.

  • @pinionatedminion38
    @pinionatedminion38 2 года назад +111

    "Unholy offspring of a gimp suit and a velociraptor" sent me into orbit, my god.

    • @chiax5757
      @chiax5757 2 года назад +3

      orbit… haha…

  • @Annihilation_Studios
    @Annihilation_Studios 4 месяца назад +2

    6:50 i just gotta say that this has gotta be my favorite horror mini trope. I love the "...OHHHH NOOOOO" feeling you get when it happens

  • @crishleo2043
    @crishleo2043 2 года назад +36

    Space being "the final frontier" is a gross over underestimation of the almost eldritch vastness of it.
    And we cannot go there to check. which leaves everything to the imagination, something that is limited by what one knows and fears.
    And Space is bigger than that.

    • @peaceandloveusa6656
      @peaceandloveusa6656 2 года назад

      Exactly. We are currently tackling the frontier of our solar system, which is in itself a speck of sand on an island of matter in the sea of space. I would say the "final" frontier of space would be once we set out to explore a new super cluster. Until then, we are still in our own backyard. Hardly the "final" frontier. And, to be honest, much of the universe might simply by mathematically impossible to explore, meaning the final frontier will be whatever law that exists to stop us between here and there.

  • @josephmatthews7698
    @josephmatthews7698 2 года назад +686

    It's weird. Space has always been a massive comfort to me. A constant reminder that no matter how big my problems were to me they were objectively nothing in the grand scheme of things. A reminder of how incredibly blessed I am to be alive right here at this moment with the opportunity to learn so much out there.
    My wife and I fell in love spending hours after hours discussing astronomy and all of our children have space inspired names like Stella Nova, Sagan and Aurora.
    Space has never been a threat to me. It's always been a promise.

    • @arthurmoore9488
      @arthurmoore9488 2 года назад

      What you're describing is Anti-Nihilism. Ironically, it evolved as a philosophical reaction to Nihilism's, "Your problems are nothing, you don't matter, the earth doesn't matter. So, why bother doing anything at all." It's the Emo Teen phase of philosophy.

    • @cringeykid4960
      @cringeykid4960 2 года назад +49

      Oh my gods someone put it into words!!!

    • @CulturedDegenerate
      @CulturedDegenerate 2 года назад +18

      Took the words right out of my mouth

    • @xxxxxx-uh5pu
      @xxxxxx-uh5pu 2 года назад +45

      I like your comment and you make a good point. The problem, however, is that there is nothing inconsistent in space being both. Eternity is both a promise and a threat, with the bonus that it will get you eventually

    • @juice6521
      @juice6521 2 года назад +13

      I don't know. Accepting the fact that our existence is simply an outcome of many that holds no significance should fill you with a little dread. We place so much importance on the slim probability of our being like it has any sort of real meaning. All traces of our civilisation and all life in our system will vanish eventually and we will have been a grain of sand in an ocean the size of the sun that existed for less than a second.
      It doesn't matter how rich or poor you are, or how long you live or what you did. We only live to live and then nothing.

  • @Radhaun
    @Radhaun 2 года назад +48

    I generally really like this type of horror. The open-ended trapped feeling gives writers a *lot* of leeway to do whatever kind of horror they want. from chaotic "what is the nature of madness" in Pandorum to "slow burn, there is no winning thriller" of Stowaway.

  • @KittyKing445
    @KittyKing445 2 года назад +17

    Wanna say a genuine thank you to the comment at 8:57, I'm someone who gets a lot of anxiety nd I always worry about stuff like that, so having a little bit of closure about my fears helps :]

  • @thisamazingguyspage
    @thisamazingguyspage 2 года назад +36

    "Ah, yes, 'Reapers'. The immortal race of sentient starships allegedly waiting in dark space. We have dismissed this claim."

  • @isaiahwilson4943
    @isaiahwilson4943 2 года назад +230

    I'm glad I'm not alone in realizing most of what we fear of aliens comes from what we fear about ourselves. Especially the colonizing warmonger part. That's a good chunk of human history right there. And we can look at the crap we do to eachother and look up at the stars and say, "Yeah, can't blame them for social distancing on expert mode. I'd stay away from Earth too."

    • @livingcorpse5664
      @livingcorpse5664 2 года назад +1

      I mean, this is literally the argument people make about why maybe we shouldn't make contact, we've been unkind to our own species not seeing other people as humans over something as stupid as skin color, so even a intelligent alien race might not see as equals or someone to respect as people.

    • @ThePa1riot
      @ThePa1riot 2 года назад +8

      That sounds more like projection. There’s a lot to humanity. A lot more than say, Orks, Klingons, and Daleks.

    • @FreshZCORD
      @FreshZCORD 2 года назад +2

      Yeah can't really blame other life for wanting to stay away from something dangerous

    • @alexandredesbiens-brassard9109
      @alexandredesbiens-brassard9109 2 года назад +9

      Fundamentally, is it possible for a human writer to write anything that isn't, at its core, a reflection of humanity? If a writer can imagone something, then that thing is comprehensible by humans, right? So can human writers ever create something truly alien?

    • @orrorsaness5942
      @orrorsaness5942 2 года назад +3

      @@alexandredesbiens-brassard9109 Maybe, but I haven’t seen it. I mean, the closest species I created to that is the Belowers. A species of individual collections of hiveminds that was born in a planet not an overt lab without emotions. Then One of the hiveminds, Backstabber The Belower “gifted” the Belower species hiveminds emotions and it all went downhill for the Belowers from there. And even then there are some human parallels.

  • @ultrio325
    @ultrio325 2 года назад +31

    "Haha, it's just a couple space monsters, how bad can it get"
    "I WAS NOT EXPECTING AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS TODAY, LET ALONE FOUR"

  • @FiveOClockTea
    @FiveOClockTea 2 года назад +19

    Been ages since I first read it, but "the colour out of space" from Lovecraft still very much chills me to the bones ...

    • @Lettucem3n
      @Lettucem3n 2 года назад +4

      MAGENTA

    • @applebee28
      @applebee28 Год назад +4

      mYsTeRiOuS cOLoUrS uNLiKe aNy sEeN oN eArTh

    • @olotocolo
      @olotocolo Год назад +2

      But that is basically a story of radiation. Lovecraft, possibly by accident, described fantastical version of gamma radiation. It much more Chernobyl than Alien

  • @OrUptotheStars
    @OrUptotheStars 2 года назад +64

    Something I really liked about The Expanse was how threatening space itself was. Sure there's monster protomolecule and scheming politicians and charismatic space terrorists, but there's also punching a hole in the hull and running out of oxygen and a crack in your space suit and zero grav making minor wounds life threatening and running out of water and having lived so long in space that your body literally cannot handle planetary gravity anymore. The environment is always just as dangerous as whatever else is going on.

    • @samkirk79
      @samkirk79 2 года назад +9

      I personally think the scene from episode 5.10 where Naomi takes a blind leap out an airlock with only the air in her suit, where the camera is a single shot from insider her helmet and the only audio is what she can hear, ie. only herself, is one of the most terrifying and moving scenes in all television.

    • @Padtedesco
      @Padtedesco 2 года назад +2

      The Expanse is the epitome of all space horror genre. Every turn of a new angle or info I was expecting it as an example, but it works as the ultimate MOFO sum off all fears.

    • @janmelantu7490
      @janmelantu7490 2 года назад +2

      Belters embracing the Agoraphobia as rockhoppers has got to be one of my favorite bits of speculative anthropology

  • @atomf9143
    @atomf9143 2 года назад +59

    I feel like the book “Project Hail Mary” is a perfect example of the first and last ones combined. Astrophages as a concept are terrifying.

    • @ballisticm0use72
      @ballisticm0use72 2 года назад +12

      Everything Andy weir wrote (except for Artemis) is great for horror

    • @jakebrooks7481
      @jakebrooks7481 2 года назад

      And excluding the Martian

    • @logemcdoge4620
      @logemcdoge4620 2 года назад +1

      I loved that book. The ending was weird though.

    • @ballisticm0use72
      @ballisticm0use72 2 года назад +1

      @@jakebrooks7481 nah

  • @WindStreak_
    @WindStreak_ 2 года назад +39

    I love existential horror and the fear of the unknown. Space being so vast and so empty makes us feel so small and insignificant and I love it. Blue is definitely right about this needing a content warning. I love this kind of stuff but it definitely can and will freak out the unprepared

    • @AegixDrakan
      @AegixDrakan 2 года назад

      I'm right there with you, pal. :P

  • @wizardtim8573
    @wizardtim8573 2 года назад +51

    I enjoyed a book series called Chaos: Magical Princess.
    It's a western-style series about a Japanese girl who gets Isekaid into another world and is reborn as... a Cthulu Cosmic Horror. A thing that eats any organic thing. It's a lot like a horror story but from the monster's perspective. And yes, because it's an isekai, it includes a harem. Not a reverse harem. The MC is a female character who enjoys BEING the tentacle monster. It was quite fun to read and I couldn't put any of the books down, now I'm waiting for the last book to release.

    • @Doshee33
      @Doshee33 2 года назад +8

      Hey uh. What the fuck?

    • @wizardtim8573
      @wizardtim8573 2 года назад +10

      @@Doshee33 Care to make your inquiry more specific?

    • @Doshee33
      @Doshee33 2 года назад +8

      @@wizardtim8573 no I think "what the fuck" encapsulates everything

    • @wizardtim8573
      @wizardtim8573 2 года назад +6

      @@Doshee33 Not sure you're using that word right.

    • @NukkuiskoHyvinVaiPois
      @NukkuiskoHyvinVaiPois Год назад

      I wouldn't describe a rapist main character as "fun" but to each their own I guess

  • @soulcakeplatypus6522
    @soulcakeplatypus6522 2 года назад +161

    I've already made my peace with "space is scary" and if I were to die in a horrific and unsettling manner up there then that was just my fate that we shouldn't try to change! just LET! ME! UP! THERE!!

    • @soulcakeplatypus6522
      @soulcakeplatypus6522 2 года назад +20

      the first movie I ever went to was Star Trek:First Contact when I was two months old, and according to my mum it was the first time I was completely quiet and relaxed. I was literally *built* for space is scary, pls NASA just let me up there

    • @Googledeservestodie
      @Googledeservestodie 2 года назад +8

      Lmao same. It's like Jurassic Park right, If someone asked if I would like to see a real life Jurassic Park but there's a high chance I will be eating by a dinosaur what am I going to say? Count me in! Even if something goes horribly wrong I will be forever known in history books as *The first man ever to be eaten by a dinosaur.* The first man to die on Mars is going to be a legend.

    • @HellishSpoon
      @HellishSpoon 2 года назад +15

      DEATH IS THE CONSEQUENCES OF PROGRESS
      WE FACE DEATH TOGTHER IN THE INFINITY

    • @Googledeservestodie
      @Googledeservestodie 2 года назад +3

      @@HellishSpoon FOR THE EMPERORRRRRRRR

    • @soulcakeplatypus6522
      @soulcakeplatypus6522 2 года назад +1

      @@Googledeservestodie now all I'm seeing is Jurassic Park In Space. what's a bigger historical honour than first man eaten by dinosaur? first man eaten by dinosaur on the *moon!* all I'm saying is that I'd watch that movie

  • @austinb5084
    @austinb5084 2 года назад +200

    “The British Navy Special” is way funnier than it has any right to be.

    • @middi6
      @middi6 2 года назад +14

      I burst out laughing at that.

    • @Phantom-qr1ug
      @Phantom-qr1ug 2 года назад +13

      *Rule Britannia playing in the distance, slowly becoming louder and louder*

    • @Shoxic666
      @Shoxic666 2 года назад

      @@Phantom-qr1ug Tally ho it is

    • @cam4636
      @cam4636 2 года назад +1

      @@Phantom-qr1ug *it seems to be coming from outside the spaceship, despite the lack of atmosphere*

  • @solseeker7502
    @solseeker7502 2 года назад +26

    “Unholy offspring of a gimp suit and velociraptor” is not a sentence I thought I’d hear today.
    Neat.

  • @kumatorahaltmanndreemurr
    @kumatorahaltmanndreemurr 2 года назад +15

    Junji Ito has some really unnerving space horror manga under his belt. “Sensors” and “Remina” both come to mind off the top of my head. Without getting into spoilers, Remina has one of the most bleak and unsettling endings I’ve ever read in a horror story

    • @mr.e330
      @mr.e330 2 года назад +8

      Got done reading Remina (thanks for the rec!) and damn, the entire manga was so viscerally unsettling and also downright horriying for the way the mob was presented. I appreciated how the eldritch Remina is never expanded upon on and is left "morally ambigious" as I think it helps paint it as completely removed from our perspective of a little pond in the infinite ocean that is the universe alongside how it contrasts to how the people in the story still keep adhering to their perspective to an equally terrifying extent. Really good story

    • @kumatorahaltmanndreemurr
      @kumatorahaltmanndreemurr 2 года назад

      @@mr.e330 I'm glad you liked it! Junji Ito is one of my favorite creators- if you're new to his work and interested in reading more, I'd definitely recommend Uzumaki (literally my favorite manga)

    • @novachrono1341
      @novachrono1341 2 года назад +1

      I remember hearing that Remina was so bleak that Junji Ito rewrote the ending for it to be less bleak and its still pretty dark. I cant imagine the original ending

    • @phastinemoon
      @phastinemoon 8 месяцев назад

      Your comment could have just said “Junji Ito” and would have communicated all of that

  • @MouseMask-p1z
    @MouseMask-p1z 2 года назад +21

    “The unholy offspring of a gimp suit and a velociraptor”
    Red, you have such a way with words.