@@zainzoala1083 the rich people on Epstein’s list sure! But as for accusing random people of among the worst crimes you can commit, speaking as an adult survivor of CSA just don’t do that. It reduces the weight and seriousness of it and makes our trauma a joke
The fact that this is even a debate is disgusting. Im Dutch, and I'm disgusted that the country allowed him to continue to compete. Forget about the physical proximity to potential victims, the optics alone are awful
Read the court case and just to be fair.... The girl sent him a friend request. They began to chat everyday and for months on social media before they met. She lied and told him she was 16. Go read the case. Put your son in that boys shoes. The adults involved (clinic, parents, courts) have destroyed both of these children's lives.
Your assumption is idiotic. I don't know the details of this particular case, but I've lived enough to know that intimate relations cannot always be neatly fit in legal boxes. The caller is just trying to highlight these nuances and the guy behind the microphone knows what he needs to say to not get cancelled.
@LuckyLuckyluc A pedoPredator should not be given the privilege of being a role model to any children Being an Olympic athlete puts him in a position of influence. Who wants a PedoPredator influencing their children?!
@@EdwinOudenes No its not. It's about showcasing the best amateur sports people a country has. If your best is a convicted anything you find the next best
@EdwinOudenes its not about sports anymore. They Banner Russia on the premisses of them invading Ukrania, but then let this rap1st compete in the name of a country? That's just not right. There are children as well competing and I will be concerned about him being close to those kids.
My thoughts here is with the child that was abused. Why should she ever have to worry about watching the tv and see her abuser being paraded around. Makes me sick anybody can stand for this guy. That poor girl has to live through all this again with all this publicity.
Negligent doctors can be struck off. Corrupt police officers can be barred from serving. Why is it outrageous to say that abusive athletes should be stopped from competing?
How can the first caller defend such a person. The guy only served 1 year out of 4 years. He knew how old the girl was…but according to this man the “legal age of an adult is supposedly 18”. No mate, it IS the legal age of an adult. I’d have this caller’s computer checked. 🤮 The British Justice System is an abomination!
To be fair the Dutch let him out early. But we could argue they let him out under their law on time . Which is what happened and he didn’t change anything he did his time and qualified by cooperating.Answer me this though the victim was in the Uk not the same street or town or country so how did he know where she lived ? And I guess another is where were the parents
He was sentenced to 4 years in the UK. He was then extradited to the Netherlands where they downgraded his sentence and released him. It's the Dutch who don't take this stuff seriously.
British equestrianism had to drop out for hitting a horse ! You aren’t just playing sport. You are representing your nation with all that entails. Is beach volleyball that important to the Dutch?
And yet Charlotte Dujardin was banned for whipping an animal? Where is the outrage for this poor girl? A certain demographic continues to show that they care more about animals than their own children.
You look at how long Larry Nassar was able to get away with abuse. I would be furious if I were a fellow Olympian. This is not something olympians need to be worried about.
The first caller is a wrongun. Greenwood wasn’t even found guilty and the boy has been crucified can’t even represent his Country anymore. This man was 20 and the poor girl was 12. This is beyond insane I’m actually fuming!
The first caller is apparently in favour of "Christian" values... That in and of itself is problematic... Whereas (perhaps) not all Christians can be viewed as suspect, their thinking is skewed already by the avid belief in some man-made deity, let alone thinking that paedophilia is something to be ignored, considering the _minor_ prison term served, which _should be and is_ considered by most, as completely inadequate. His post-prison work-life (to save our taxes being squandered to aid his foul existence), needs to be monitored carefully and exactly to avoid any further access to children... (Perhaps mining under the sea*...?!) Apologies* for that seemingly flippant remark but, _where and what_ ought he be allowed to do to maintain his existence where his contact with any under-age children will be denied to him? I have not been in the workforce for awhile due to my disabilities and retirement, so am not au fait with current work practices, but clearly representing any country in competition is abhorrent to most (if not the majority, surely?) sports fans, and wherever _he_ is _must not be_ where _children may also be_ eg. in the Olympic Village etc. Let him play volleyball - or whatever _proper sport_ he plays - in his own back yard, with his own adult companions, if he has any, but not on the world stage trying to ingratiate himself with the attempt to win medals and prestige amongst those who might view his fervour for his sport as admirable and / or worth following, by those too young to know his history or his fantasies and his true nature. _If_ he can be changed from what he _is_ and what he did, into a 'normal' decent person (by whichever means?) then let that happen where he will not succumb to backwards thinking and / or actions. If he cannot be rehabilitated into 'normal decent living standards' he ought: a) _not_ be allowed to compete, as I said earlier, and b) just not be allowed any job where he could repeat his foul behaviours.
I think its the one year jail sentence. Like if he served 12 then i would be open to discussions of atonement. But 1yr served and proudly giving the privilege to represent your country in the Olympics is wild and embarrassing
@@makeitmakesense2616 he could have served 50 years and he would be no less of a risk to children at 80yo than he was at 30. Pedos do not change. They are always looking for victims. Always.
@@tryingmybest9819 everyone is saying 12 months. But that's not the point is it. It was the court decided sentence. If people feel it's not enough, that's what they should be up in arms about, not that he has now served it.
I find it mental that the Dutch are allowing him to represent their country. I'd be kicking up a stink about that if I were them: it doesn't just look awful but the safeguarding issues are off the scale. The lady caller was correct: if you don't pass your DBS check, you shouldn't be allowed to do jobs where you're going to come into contact with under 18s.
The Dutch Olympic Committee is to blame. That they thought this was ok just proves how disgustingly corrupt the Olympic Games are. And the ceremony yesterday, the worst I have ever seen. Boooooring. I am sure these are the last Olympic Games we’ll see.
That first caller needs to be behind bars himself. He's a threat to civilised society. The girl has indefinite suffering, why shouldn't he? The crime being discussed is worthy of death penalty in my book. A society that gives 1 year prison time for that kind of horror is animalistic.
Why should he be kept an eye on?! Once a kiddie fiddler, always a kiddie fiddler hence they are not permitted to be amongst children or young people! Representing our country also? No way is this defendable in anyway!! He can work in an old people home!
The problem is he's unwisely chosen a profession in the public eye. Unfortunately in life, sometimes your past decisions may exclude you from participating and/or succeeding in certain careers. You can't become a policeman having a serious criminal record for example. It's just the way it has to be.
Age of consent. Adulthood. No flexibility whatsoever. Are we suggesting...? We're suggesting a convicted paedo should NOT be in an environment with children.
“There’s a range of adulthood.”…..Hmmm dude…She was 12!!!…First guy needs to get his hard drives checked and if there’s CP on it, straight into the woodchipper you go!
Sport is a type of entertainment. Athletes are celebrities. The Dutch declared that a 20 year old (6 days removed) sleeping with a 12 year old is fine. The French likely don't mind either. I mean they have been harboring Roman Polanski all these decades so...
He was a volleyball player before his horrendous crime. He was convicted in Britain, BUT under the Dutch law they asked the British if he could continue his sentence in the country he was born in. So instead of ra** charges it was changed to "fornication" in his country! CRAZY but that is what was decided. He is now married with a two year old son.
The first caller… going on about Christian attitude… I am a Christian, Roman Catholic, educated all the way from 4 years till 16 years in a Jesuit catholic education. This Olympic competitor should not be anywhere near the Olympic Games
1st caller says: 1. "That we have to presume that the guy had learned his lesson. And if truly has not learned his lesson, then he doesn't belong out of prison, clearly"....So, how does the caller suggest that we find out if he has learned his lesson? How many offenders have been released out of prison to go and commit the exact same offense? 2. "He may have kids, of his own, I don't know..."...How is having kids of your own an indication that you have learned your lesson? Frankly, I'd be more concerned for the kids
That first caller was so disturbing to listen to. Yes, he has paid his debt to justice. That’s gone, fair or unfair that was already decided by our justice system. As the moderator said, this is a moral question, even philosophical. Representing your country at the most important sports event is a privilege, not a right. Is that right not withdrawn from someone who committed such a heinous act? Even if they have the talent, can they represent the country? This is about the symbolism, the message being sent!
Anyone here have a problem with Snoop Dog carrying the Olympic torch, and being a commentator? Because he literally p1mped out young girls for years, and bragged about it in his songs. I bet a lot of you know the lyrics.
Right ok so according to the caller, The offender "shouldnt be punished for this for the rest of their lives" because they been to prison they've paid their debt!! But the Victim doesnt get a choice in that, they are scarred for life, never able to forget, and in worse cases end up commiting suicide. No justice for victims these days! Its a joke. And hes able to parade around and act as if nothing happend. 12 months behind bars is a slap in the face to the victim.
Victims have to keep living with the abuse and trauma all their life. So yeah the preditor has to carry the label and disgrace for the rest of their life too.
The first caller sounds like he needs to be investigated by the police. If you have children or have a heart, then atonement is not an option
😂😂😂 Maybe they should start investigating all the rich people on Epstein list first and then you next
@@zainzoala1083 the rich people on Epstein’s list sure! But as for accusing random people of among the worst crimes you can commit, speaking as an adult survivor of CSA just don’t do that. It reduces the weight and seriousness of it and makes our trauma a joke
I was thinking same this guy shouldn't of called in...he defo in custody tonight.😅😅
@zainzoala1083 What a ridiculous response.
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The fact that this is even a debate is disgusting.
Im Dutch, and I'm disgusted that the country allowed him to continue to compete.
Forget about the physical proximity to potential victims, the optics alone are awful
The UK is an Islamic nation this stuff is totally acceptable by today’s leftwing standards.
100% agreed
The debate is disgusting 💯
What does it say to dutch girls? If you're abused better hope he's not famous or okay at sport at the cost of everyone's children's safety
Read the court case and just to be fair.... The girl sent him a friend request. They began to chat everyday and for months on social media before they met. She lied and told him she was 16. Go read the case. Put your son in that boys shoes. The adults involved (clinic, parents, courts) have destroyed both of these children's lives.
The first caller is just dodgy. No one goes to those degrees of ethical gymnastics to defend someone who isn’t one of their own kind
That's what I was thinking! Very very suspicous
Yep, check John's harddrives 💀
Wow John really loves a slice “cheese pizza”
Lot of abusers about. Covert jobs are the worse. Hello
Your assumption is idiotic. I don't know the details of this particular case, but I've lived enough to know that intimate relations cannot always be neatly fit in legal boxes. The caller is just trying to highlight these nuances and the guy behind the microphone knows what he needs to say to not get cancelled.
He only spent a SINGLE YEAR in prison and was then allowed to continue his dream career. That's barely a slap on the wrist!
Exactly The victim has a life sentence of trauma😢
How is this not trending on the internet? ridiculous
How is he able to come and wave to the fans "hello, here I am to play, now y'all respect me" 💯 just watched him being wistled@@NEO-v7r
But the 12 year old has a life sentence..
What can you expect when politicians, judges and police all over the world are involved in CENSORED. CENSORED allways look after other CENSORED.
Convicted child rapists shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near children that includes competitors or in the stands
The first caller is a suspect
Hard drive check ASAP please!
BIGTIME!!!!
he was DEFINITELY on the epstein list
And probably a judge 👨🏼⚖️
OH HE'S DEFINATELY ONE OF 'THEM'!!!!!
There is a rule. You can't work around children. There are children in the Olympics, so he can't be there. Simple as that
Response from the IOC 🖕
Where are the children? In the stands? He is no danger to them...
Ummm, the athletes? Did you actually listen to this? 🤦🏼♀️
Children competing in olympics = child labour.
@LuckyLuckyluc
A pedoPredator should not be given the privilege of being a role model to any children
Being an Olympic athlete puts him in a position of influence. Who wants a PedoPredator influencing their children?!
This guy should be banned from the Olympics forever.
Why? The Olympics are about sports.
@@EdwinOudenes
It’s not if you’re PDF
Are you one of them? You make too much excuses
@@EdwinOudenes No its not. It's about showcasing the best amateur sports people a country has. If your best is a convicted anything you find the next best
This guy should be in prison
@EdwinOudenes its not about sports anymore. They Banner Russia on the premisses of them invading Ukrania, but then let this rap1st compete in the name of a country? That's just not right. There are children as well competing and I will be concerned about him being close to those kids.
It's called zero tolerance. This isn't complicated.
First caller was a confession
The irony is that he has a child! And his wife is a psychologist and a police officer!
Wow!🤮 I'm just speechless...
She is not a psychologist. She is a volleyball player too.
@@Verasevos
She is a psychologist, she has a degree in psychology, she just doesn’t work as a psychologist but as a volleyball player
That actually explains exactly wjy he thinks like that
They are only telling half a story here. Have a look at the background story.
He’s living his best life and his victim is still hiding. How he can just carry while representing his home country is deplorable.
The victim will have to live with this trauma for the rest of their life. It is truly sickening.
My thoughts here is with the child that was abused. Why should she ever have to worry about watching the tv and see her abuser being paraded around. Makes me sick anybody can stand for this guy. That poor girl has to live through all this again with all this publicity.
best comment here!
Yep totally agree! The first caller should of been told this. How does the poor girl feel with what she suffered and still most likely suffering
I have no empathy for people who do any bad thing to children woman or elderly
And animals
So it's ok to do bad things to men? 😂
That is antisemitic!
And men?
Politicians?
Negligent doctors can be struck off. Corrupt police officers can be barred from serving. Why is it outrageous to say that abusive athletes should be stopped from competing?
You should be stopped from commenting if that is your 'logic'.
How can the first caller defend such a person. The guy only served 1 year out of 4 years. He knew how old the girl was…but according to this man the “legal age of an adult is supposedly 18”. No mate, it IS the legal age of an adult. I’d have this caller’s computer checked. 🤮 The British Justice System is an abomination!
To be fair the Dutch let him out early. But we could argue they let him out under their law on time . Which is what happened and he didn’t change anything he did his time and qualified by cooperating.Answer me this though the victim was in the Uk not the same street or town or country so how did he know where she lived ? And I guess another is where were the parents
He probably works for the government.
He was sentenced to 4 years in the UK. He was then extradited to the Netherlands where they downgraded his sentence and released him. It's the Dutch who don't take this stuff seriously.
@@jziffitolerant Dutch society ultimate disgust.
British equestrianism had to drop out for hitting a horse ! You aren’t just playing sport. You are representing your nation with all that entails. Is beach volleyball that important to the Dutch?
Dang💯
He needs his hard drives checked.
😂
His phone and if he has kids they need to be interviewed.
Dang💯
The first caller needs looking into
My thoughts exactly, birds of a feather flock together
Check all johns in tooting yikes
Check the first caller's hard drive immediately
Would the First Caller want this man around his Grandchildren?
I can’t help but feel that he’s not trustworthy around his own grandkids. It’s such a weird soap box to get on unless you’ve got genuine sympathies
@@minui8758 Absolutely, you nailed it. I was shocked with what came out of his mouth.
I wouldn't want the first caller near my kids.
No because he wouldn't want any competition
@@fab3laundry I listenned to it again and he sounds quite creepy.
I wonder if he would have the same energy if the guy was black or brown. 🤔
He would’ve been deported already if he was black or brown.
...or the girl was his daughter
Greenwood and Mendy found not guilty. Got released from their clubs and not allowed to represent their national teams anymore. This is beyond insane!
Once a predator always a predator he knew what he was doing
Agreed
First caller needs to be investigated
The first caller should be in prison
I think the first caller protest a little too much...... worryingly...
First caller is 100% dodgy. Forgiveness given without any context needed, for that?! Defending one of his own right there.
Makes me think of Peter Tatchall. Apologist for all sorts of deviants...
“Not very christian when letting someone pay and pay” - ever heard of hel?
This is one of crimes that need to be punished and punished and punished ….
And yet Charlotte Dujardin was banned for whipping an animal? Where is the outrage for this poor girl? A certain demographic continues to show that they care more about animals than their own children.
Steven got married in 2022 and has a child. I'm curious to find out how his wife felt comfortable enough about his past to marry him.
Looks like Steven has a lot of money
that poor child..
Family connections apparently
You realise that alike attracts alike...
@@Verasevos 😱😬
The first caller would probably apologise for Saville.
and andrew
You look at how long Larry Nassar was able to get away with abuse. I would be furious if I were a fellow Olympian. This is not something olympians need to be worried about.
First caller needs police sent to his house and all his technology seized ASAP.
First caller… I would be checking his electronics
That girl will live with this for the rest of her life, why shouldn't he?
It wasn't a speeding ticket
Defending the indefensible. Ignoramus.
The first caller is a wrongun. Greenwood wasn’t even found guilty and the boy has been crucified can’t even represent his Country anymore. This man was 20 and the poor girl was 12. This is beyond insane I’m actually fuming!
Is the first caller on drugs or something.
Just ask him if it was his child.
The first caller is apparently in favour of "Christian" values...
That in and of itself is problematic... Whereas (perhaps) not all Christians can be viewed as suspect, their thinking is skewed already by the avid belief in some man-made deity, let alone thinking that paedophilia is something to be ignored, considering the _minor_ prison term served, which _should be and is_ considered by most, as completely inadequate.
His post-prison work-life (to save our taxes being squandered to aid his foul existence), needs to be monitored carefully and exactly to avoid any further access to children...
(Perhaps mining under the sea*...?!) Apologies* for that seemingly flippant remark but, _where and what_ ought he be allowed to do to maintain his existence where his contact with any under-age children will be denied to him?
I have not been in the workforce for awhile due to my disabilities and retirement, so am not au fait with current work practices, but clearly representing any country in competition is abhorrent to most (if not the majority, surely?) sports fans, and wherever _he_ is _must not be_ where _children may also be_ eg. in the Olympic Village etc.
Let him play volleyball - or whatever _proper sport_ he plays - in his own back yard, with his own adult companions, if he has any, but not on the world stage trying to ingratiate himself with the attempt to win medals and prestige amongst those who might view his fervour for his sport as admirable and / or worth following, by those too young to know his history or his fantasies and his true nature.
_If_ he can be changed from what he _is_ and what he did, into a 'normal' decent person (by whichever means?) then let that happen where he will not succumb to backwards thinking and / or actions.
If he cannot be rehabilitated into 'normal decent living standards' he ought:
a) _not_ be allowed to compete, as I said earlier, and
b) just not be allowed any job where he could repeat his foul behaviours.
No he just wants kids also
I wonder what's on his hard drive
He’s such a monster.
What's wrong with the woman who married him
It is ludicrous for anyone to suggest that NOT allowing someone to participate in the Olympics is some form of punishment
I think its the one year jail sentence. Like if he served 12 then i would be open to discussions of atonement.
But 1yr served and proudly giving the privilege to represent your country in the Olympics is wild and embarrassing
@@makeitmakesense2616 he could have served 50 years and he would be no less of a risk to children at 80yo than he was at 30. Pedos do not change. They are always looking for victims. Always.
Why isn't everyone asking why he only got 12 months? Might be because you don't know the details.
@1Mutton1 he got 4 years
@@tryingmybest9819 everyone is saying 12 months. But that's not the point is it. It was the court decided sentence. If people feel it's not enough, that's what they should be up in arms about, not that he has now served it.
@@1Mutton1NONCE
This is diabolical! As a Father this is shocking.
I find it mental that the Dutch are allowing him to represent their country. I'd be kicking up a stink about that if I were them: it doesn't just look awful but the safeguarding issues are off the scale. The lady caller was correct: if you don't pass your DBS check, you shouldn't be allowed to do jobs where you're going to come into contact with under 18s.
Should never be allowed anywhere near olympics team certain crimes he should be locked up for rest of life
That's it not watching Olympics anymore disgusting
They should check this guy's hard drive.
There are all sorts of jobs you would be disqualified from if you were convicted of this crime, and competing in the Olympics should be one of them.
The Dutch Olympic Committee is to blame. That they thought this was ok just proves how disgustingly corrupt the Olympic Games are. And the ceremony yesterday, the worst I have ever seen. Boooooring. I am sure these are the last Olympic Games we’ll see.
12 month is not long enough to learn any kind of lesson and this person shouldn’t. Work with children ever
I guess if people think its ok for this guy to compete, then they wouldn't have a problem with Oscar Pistorious competing again right?...
police need to go and check this guys laptop! im not even joking!
That first caller needs to be behind bars himself. He's a threat to civilised society. The girl has indefinite suffering, why shouldn't he? The crime being discussed is worthy of death penalty in my book. A society that gives 1 year prison time for that kind of horror is animalistic.
Why should he be kept an eye on?! Once a kiddie fiddler, always a kiddie fiddler hence they are not permitted to be amongst children or young people! Representing our country also? No way is this defendable in anyway!! He can work in an old people home!
1st caller talking about atonement is probably 1 of the reasons why Christianity has an issue dealing with their own predators..
The problem is he's unwisely chosen a profession in the public eye. Unfortunately in life, sometimes your past decisions may exclude you from participating and/or succeeding in certain careers. You can't become a policeman having a serious criminal record for example. It's just the way it has to be.
This man shouldn’t be competing…
How does the Dutch team feel about having to compete along side him
Dutch government should remove him from competition
Age of consent. Adulthood. No flexibility whatsoever. Are we suggesting...? We're suggesting a convicted paedo should NOT be in an environment with children.
We won’t watch the Olympic Games. Everyone boycott. Barb
lol no :D
“There’s a range of adulthood.”…..Hmmm dude…She was 12!!!…First guy needs to get his hard drives checked and if there’s CP on it, straight into the woodchipper you go!
The first caller should be investigated ! He s probably one of them !
I think he doth protest too much
This caller needs his phone confiscated
Sport is a type of entertainment. Athletes are celebrities. The Dutch declared that a 20 year old (6 days removed) sleeping with a 12 year old is fine. The French likely don't mind either. I mean they have been harboring Roman Polanski all these decades so...
He was a volleyball player before his horrendous crime. He was convicted in Britain, BUT under the Dutch law they asked the British if he could continue his sentence in the country he was born in. So instead of ra** charges it was changed to "fornication" in his country! CRAZY but that is what was decided. He is now married with a two year old son.
Poor son. Fancy having a father with that record.
The first caller is ick. He should be investigated.
The first caller… going on about Christian attitude… I am a Christian, Roman Catholic, educated all the way from 4 years till 16 years in a Jesuit catholic education.
This Olympic competitor should not be anywhere near the Olympic Games
First caller just exposed himself
The first man on the phone is probably one and is why he’s defending him
Did you report this caller to the police?.I wonder what's on his hard drive.
1st caller says:
1. "That we have to presume that the guy had learned his lesson. And if truly has not learned his lesson, then he doesn't belong out of prison, clearly"....So, how does the caller suggest that we find out if he has learned his lesson? How many offenders have been released out of prison to go and commit the exact same offense?
2. "He may have kids, of his own, I don't know..."...How is having kids of your own an indication that you have learned your lesson? Frankly, I'd be more concerned for the kids
That first caller was so disturbing to listen to. Yes, he has paid his debt to justice. That’s gone, fair or unfair that was already decided by our justice system. As the moderator said, this is a moral question, even philosophical. Representing your country at the most important sports event is a privilege, not a right. Is that right not withdrawn from someone who committed such a heinous act? Even if they have the talent, can they represent the country? This is about the symbolism, the message being sent!
Anyone here have a problem with Snoop Dog carrying the Olympic torch, and being a commentator? Because he literally p1mped out young girls for years, and bragged about it in his songs. I bet a lot of you know the lyrics.
Snoop dog should be banned for pimping young girls another gaslighting
This is the first thing that came to my mind as well.
Wait, people under 18 compete at the Olympics and are in the village? Now I get why they don’t want him there
Yep the youngest is 12! The skateboarders and gymnastics are really young
yeah, this first caller needs to be investigated.
This guy needs his hard drive checked
John from Tooting sounds like an offender the way he is strongly defending the pervert.😮
Right ok so according to the caller, The offender "shouldnt be punished for this for the rest of their lives" because they been to prison they've paid their debt!! But the Victim doesnt get a choice in that, they are scarred for life, never able to forget, and in worse cases end up commiting suicide. No justice for victims these days! Its a joke. And hes able to parade around and act as if nothing happend.
12 months behind bars is a slap in the face to the victim.
It's time to stop making excuses for child predators. The first caller seems to be taking it very personal, why? Creepy.
This world is getting scarier day by day
A person can Never or should Never be allowed to come back from a rspe conviction..
First caller needs his hard drive checking
Forget the olympic issue the real issue is this pos is out and about after one year
First caller sounds way off the mark - i’d go as far to say suspicious defending the indefensible 🙄🙄
Think of his victim. This is so horrible for her. For all survivors. He should not be allowed in the public eye.
The first caller should be seriously investigated by police
How are these ppl still around in 2024?
What are the Dutch Olympics Commitee thinking off? Yes he deserves redemption, but it is not appropriate to select him.
The first caller already has victims.
He has money to get away with it . His dad is well connected.sad really
Johns hard drive needs checking very closely........
That he was allowed to compete speaks volumes about the ethics of the committee that let him participate.
Someone needs to check the first callers hard drive
Olympic athletes sign a document agreeing to be a role model.
They obviously don't care about children..
"Should he pay and pay and pay indefinitely? That doesn't sound like a very Christian attitude."
His victim has to pay and pay and pay indefinitely.
Victims have to keep living with the abuse and trauma all their life. So yeah the preditor has to carry the label and disgrace for the rest of their life too.
John from Tooting is absolutely on the register, no doubt in my mind at all. He's making the same arguments as the PIE did back in the 70s.