How to fix a leak at the back of your wc pan .

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  • The dreaded leak that comes from the back of your WC pan. This is the video to help solve the problem for you without calling an expensive plumber.
    Saved some money on plumbers fees? Use the thanks button.
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    Many thanks Al.
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  • @chrisblackburn1551
    @chrisblackburn1551 5 лет назад +27

    Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. We were looking at having to call a plumber on the weekend. Watched your video. Simple, encouraging and gave me the confidence to try diy (I'm hopeless). Fixed it with a $5 part. You never know when you are helping your fellow man! 12,000 milles away in Australia. Thanks again.

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  5 лет назад +5

      No problem Chris, the miles between us means nothing with the great resource of U-tube.

  • @Tulimammam123
    @Tulimammam123 8 лет назад +4

    Thanks for this video. I have got a disgusting leak from the back of my toilet, so got the plumber's mait and will try it now. Keep fingers crossed!

  • @liamh2467
    @liamh2467 11 месяцев назад +2

    Your videos are great. I'm a relatively new gas engineer but wanted to get into plumbing and your videos have been instrumental to me getting through my day. Thanks, Liam 😊

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  11 месяцев назад +1

      Glad to help

  • @MariusMeyer0
    @MariusMeyer0 8 лет назад +5

    Wow. I was very glad when I found this video!
    It is because my problem is almost EXACTLY the one that you describe here! Thank you for this video!

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  8 лет назад

      +Marius Meyer No problem.

  • @timothyarcher594
    @timothyarcher594 5 лет назад +4

    Thank you...just the confirmation I needed regarding Plumbers Mate. Also discovered the pan hasn't been screwed to the floor so just wobbling around when people sit on it!

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  5 лет назад +1

      O dear. Reach for the screws and driver.

  • @eugenefrost595
    @eugenefrost595 5 лет назад

    Wonderful video...thanks so much for covering the varies types of fittings.....Cheers from down under

  • @TheKimcheeRamen
    @TheKimcheeRamen 11 лет назад +1

    This is a great video. So plain and ready to follow. The image stabilization on your device is causing a "wavy" motion though. Other than that, very instructive.thanks

  • @DelTangBrav
    @DelTangBrav 5 лет назад

    Thanks for this video I hadn't thought to use Plumbers Mait to fix leak. A tip that might help others when plugging gap is to plug the bottom half first (while pushing down on plastic waste pipe) then when top half is plugged the bottom half gets compressed. The bottom half is the most vulnerable to leaks.
    Surprising how little PM is needed I bought a tub (£3.99 at Wickes) then just as finishing job found a half used tub at least 35 years old - it was a bit harder but still reasonably pliable.
    Another tip: if having to fix leak from the front as I did - bath at one side wall at other - is to put a large cushion on the toilet lid - your ribs will appreciate it.☺

  • @epacrisimp
    @epacrisimp 10 лет назад +3

    Thank you very much. Great video and we'll see how I go, but you helped me pin point the problem area and it looks like I will be able to fix it myself. Will save me heaps of money.

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  10 лет назад

      That's great do it your self and save money.
      Regards,
      al.

  • @nigeldale55
    @nigeldale55 3 года назад

    A valuable video. Made fixing the loo a breeze with bonus of learning the part names. Thamks for your clear instructions dereton33.

  • @preciouscharles67
    @preciouscharles67 Год назад

    Very helpful. Much thanks from Nigeria, you’ve saved me some money getting this myself and fixing it. I love you bro ❤

  • @jonnystella
    @jonnystella 9 лет назад +1

    Really useful tips, thanks for sharing.

  • @nivekvb
    @nivekvb 9 лет назад

    Thanks the info. Good idea about the plumber's mait. I've got replace my pan and I worried about what to do if it leaked after. That temperature repair will sort it out.

  • @stevecarter8810
    @stevecarter8810 Год назад

    Cool to see the couplings up close off the appliance, and to learn their names, thanks!
    That plumbers mait fix feels like it will need fixing again in a few weeks. If the rubber seal couldn't hold it, surely somethings moving about that shouldn't.

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  Год назад +1

      No, it is just the old rubber seal inside the multikwick pan adaptor has gone. Once plumbers mait is applied it stays flexible and last many years.

  • @Sgt_Bill_T_Co
    @Sgt_Bill_T_Co 6 лет назад

    Your video gave me the confidence to 'have a go' myself, since we have 3 toilets (up, Dn & En-Suite) I could take my time - completely screwed it up on the first try but on the second attempt fixed! Cheers!

  • @Chanesmyname
    @Chanesmyname 8 лет назад

    Thanks for this video! Very useful!

  • @ruebs
    @ruebs 9 лет назад

    Really helpful and informative thanks

  • @mickeybigbuds
    @mickeybigbuds 2 года назад +1

    Thanks mate plumbing’s not my strong point and you helped me diagnose and fix leak from top pipe.just pushed grommet back and it’s done me as a temp fix until I replace grommet.thanks.

  • @Will-zc8tz
    @Will-zc8tz 7 лет назад

    I think my problem was what you described at the start of the video! Thanks for letting me know. I just turned away a plumber who wanted to charge me $460 to replace the pipe connecting the watertank to the toilet bowl but still paid $77 callout fee. Cheers mate.

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  7 лет назад +1

      Glad to have helped.

    • @smartgorilla
      @smartgorilla 2 года назад

      thats why i dont trust alot trade people anymore and have to resort to you tube. the descent advise always comes from an honest plumber. how odd is that

  • @woodbine66
    @woodbine66 11 лет назад

    Thanks Al. Another useful vid.

  • @maureenfarlow-mw1li
    @maureenfarlow-mw1li 2 месяца назад

    Really helpful video, thanks. Had put in a new filler mechanism and replaced the cistern bolts and flush donut but the toilet was still leaking despite my best efforts. This video made me check the back of the toilet and sure enough it was leaking. Plumbers Mait sorted it, all working perfectly now. Terrific!

  • @joannemurray3628
    @joannemurray3628 3 года назад +8

    If you leave the toilet pan with the flush pipe still in the rubber ring on the floor there is no way you are going to be able to get your fingers in between the rubber seal and the pipe to put the Plumbers Mait in below the seal. Unless you have matchstick fingers with extremely flexible joints. It looks easy because it's not attached to the floor with the toilet pipe going in. The toilet pan has to be taken out to be able to do this, in which case you may as well just change the rubber seal.

  • @cosmicfugue1226
    @cosmicfugue1226 Год назад

    Very helpful video although in my case roof is concrete and toilet fixed with cement so I might as well call a plumber as it looks like a tougher job. It's leaking water from the big rubber seal at the back. Been more than 30 years. A big thank you from the Maltese Islands 🇲🇹

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  Год назад

      Glad it helped, good luck with it.

  • @heroes3lover
    @heroes3lover 8 лет назад

    That is exactly my problem. Thanks.

  • @dereton33
    @dereton33  11 лет назад

    That be u-tube they asked if I wanted the video stabilised and I said yes , looks like I should have said no. Pleased the video helped you though.
    Kind regards,
    al.

  • @Marcus_Ramour
    @Marcus_Ramour 2 года назад

    Many thanks for sharing, I ended up using the plumbers mait as an emergency which is holding up so far :-)

  • @jackiesawtell3749
    @jackiesawtell3749 4 года назад

    Thank you for your lovely advice 💕

  • @anyat686
    @anyat686 3 года назад +1

    That’s exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you so much !

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  3 года назад

      You are so welcome!

    • @joycethomas3549
      @joycethomas3549 6 месяцев назад

      Me too!
      Such an helpful video.
      Been trying to get a plumber to do this for almost 2 months now and to no avail hence had to come here.
      This is a very helpful video
      🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @Chinese_MartialArts
    @Chinese_MartialArts 2 года назад

    Best explanation for a leaky toilet.

  • @stewartw.9151
    @stewartw.9151 2 года назад +8

    Believe it or not I have used ordinary window putty to pack that join which was leaking. That repair lasted 20 years!

  • @gangaberystwyth2599
    @gangaberystwyth2599 3 года назад +1

    Really helpful video. Thanks!

  • @petsrfun9938
    @petsrfun9938 4 года назад

    thanks sir your tips is really helpfull i am able to fix my toilet during covid -19 lockdown .

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  4 года назад

      That`s great pleased to have helped.

  • @simomk
    @simomk 8 лет назад

    Hi. Thanks for the great video! I've got a saniflo and suffer from a leak at the back of the pan. What's the best way to connect the pan waste pipe to the saniflo. Should I just connect the rubber connector that comes with the saniflo onto the enamel outlet from the back of the pan (with a jubilee clip) or should I use that along with the rubber ring adaptor connector shown in this video? Cheers!

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  8 лет назад

      +Simon McKean . You should just be able to connect the rubber connector on the Saniflow directly onto the back of the pan, a large jubilee clip is useful for sealing that joint but not normally necessary.

  • @dereton33
    @dereton33  11 лет назад +3

    Hi joeym, I thought I would show it like they usually are rather than all cleaned up , there usually much worse than that. Did I wash my hands , hmmm you bet.
    Kind regards,
    al.

  • @pinarellolimoncello
    @pinarellolimoncello 7 лет назад +3

    Thanks very much for the video, my greatest relieve is that I'm not alone, I can not believe the crappy standard of all this Mcalpine crap where basically one fits new sanitary ware and new pan connectors or plugs and basically they just don't work and one still has to gum them up with Silicone or plumbers mate. Car hoses don't leak and they are a simple jubilee clip with temperatures up at 110 degrees, I look forward to the day that somebody comes up with a better design and puts them out of business. Right now I'm not at my happiest as I've spent hours and hours trying to fit a bathroom to a high standard only to find at every turn that I have to take it all apart again because of the poor design or build quality of the above and ram things full of plumbers mate or silicone, it is a total joke. That saying,' it's the thought that counts' needs to be applied to plastic compression fitting and rubberised joints, one should be able to do the job once and know that its going to work perfectly, it is so common to see plumbers having to compensate with silicone, its just total bollocks that Mcalpine or somebody else needs to sort out. Thanks again for your help, make sure you wash your hands!

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  7 лет назад

      Thanks Alistair. Your comments are bang on.

    • @pinarellolimoncello
      @pinarellolimoncello 7 лет назад

      You're welcome my friend, keep up the good work.

    • @iansendall9368
      @iansendall9368 7 лет назад

      Alistair Milner had the same experience, mentally ruined by my bathroom, damaged items, poorly made parts, leaks galore. must of fitted everything at least 3 times. Sponsored by silicone in the end! 😢

    • @pinarellolimoncello
      @pinarellolimoncello 7 лет назад +1

      What is there left to say, I feel your pain my friend, shout, scream, let it all out, take lots of deep breaths hopefully you'll get there in the end. I suppose if I can dispense any advice it would be try to preempt your education in plumbing by learning from others ahead of time by picking up as many hints and tips on you tube, browse plumbing books from library or second hand shop but I think most of all what causes so much anguish is not just the poor quality of parts and lack of instructions but ones own lack of familiarity . I'll give you example, waste for plugs on sinks and baths, they come with top and bottom rubber washer, if you fit the top washer the plug sits proud and a pool of water will sit in the dip of the basin and another pool of water will collect on the floor because it doesn't work anyway. Get rid of the top washer and use plumbers mate and the plug will sit low enough to look smart and hopefully seal up, you may also need to use silicone around the exterior of the plug waste ridiculous as that sounds. All of this trauma is hard won and it seems to be the case through out the job, its why apprenticeships and on the job learning are just as important as college. Take solace from the fact that you are not alone, we have solidarity, community and unity in our plumbing misery! And if all else fails, go to a good cafe..Good luck, you'll be pleased at the end of it.

    • @johnbarnes4420
      @johnbarnes4420 5 лет назад

      Macalpine is far superior to any other make repairing a joint with plumbers mate is a bodge allways renew the joint

  • @amjadmahmood3362
    @amjadmahmood3362 5 лет назад

    Good informative video. Thank you

  • @klick4x
    @klick4x 9 лет назад

    thanks for uploading the video

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  9 лет назад

      klick4x No problem. Al.

  • @stephenkosloff6081
    @stephenkosloff6081 4 года назад +1

    nice video - i put a new one in and it leaks - pulled toilet back slightly and it seemed to seal ?

  • @diegopalleros8287
    @diegopalleros8287 5 лет назад

    Thanks a lot, this was spot on, problem solved.

  • @norriej7903
    @norriej7903 6 лет назад

    Hi very helpful video thank you. I have a leak which is now a puddle...I have had someone check it over but finding it hard to detect where it is coming from. A new flush cone has been inserted but I think it is the large pipe at the back and it has been dripping for some time as the vinyl is marked and I am going to buy some Plumbers Mate, there are no marks elsewhere on the floor only directly underneath, my friend seems to think it may be coming from another pipe to the side which leads to the boiler, just can't see it. What do you think? Appreciate your opinion in this matter. Many thanks.

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  6 лет назад +1

      It usually is the soil pipe connector. Try a good wedge of plumbers mait in the joint. Make sure it is dry before applying.

  • @keithwebb658
    @keithwebb658 2 года назад +1

    Is the pan waste outlet always a standard size in the UK? I have seen various straight couplers that vary slightly. Also The issue is that if the pan has any movement it will eventually leak. The seals really don't seem to be up to the job for any length of time. Also, pans are usually fitted into the same position each time they are replaced so the flooring needs to be structurally sound either by replacing floorboards or thoroughly making good the concrete for example. Plumbers mate may be a good temporary fix but if the pan is removed anyway you may as well buy and fit new straight connector for around £6 in screwfix for peace of mind. Other connectors are available to suit your application but are likely to be more expensive.

  • @sjoseph3641
    @sjoseph3641 Год назад

    Thank you for the video, we have a leak of the smelly kind, i think the flexible waste hose has a gap where it enters the floor waste pipe allowing drain odour to come out, so I will be doing as you suggest and plugging it with plumbers mate, fingers crossed a nice smelling bathroom again!

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  Год назад

      Glad it helped

    • @mk4reala965
      @mk4reala965 Год назад

      @@dereton33 I am having small flies coming from the back of the toilet and possible cistern leak in have a 4 inch pan connecter to a 5 inch ware pipe there is a gap are they possibly coming from there the flies please if you can help thanks

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 Год назад

    Thanks for the info. No more poop water on the floor for us.

  • @RO_Apprentice
    @RO_Apprentice 2 года назад

    Al, thanks for your clear and helpful videos. I have a general question about toilets as we have spent hours looking for what to buy in the £200-£500 price range - it is difficult to discern the difference between the ends of this price range.
    It is often said "you get what you pay for" but there is little technical information on actual performance to go on in this range to give confidence that it is worth spending at the top end. There are literally tens of trade names, some seem to share a common manufacturer and yet there are surprisingly few reviews that provide accurate insight into which makes for the best product.
    Do you have any suggestions for the best toilet makes in your recent experience? - We want to know that we are buying a quality product that will do the intended job properly and reliably. Or are they all basically the same? Your suggestions/observations welcome.

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  2 года назад +1

      You should have my reply by email now.

    • @RO_Apprentice
      @RO_Apprentice 2 года назад

      @@dereton33 Yes thanks Al

  • @winstonclarke9221
    @winstonclarke9221 5 лет назад

    Great Tips.

  • @johnd8441
    @johnd8441 2 года назад

    Very very helpful, ive got the type that he has on the paper, I think it's the second one, the one that looks like a grommet..

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  2 года назад

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @YAHUAHsgotmysix
    @YAHUAHsgotmysix 3 года назад

    Hi Derek! My toilet soil outlet goes down into the floor. I need to raise the toilet approx 1inch as I'm putting floorboards down. Will the loo outlet still have enough pipe to still connect into the waste pipe in the floor and have a proper seal? Hope I've explained ok. Many thanks Tony.

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  3 года назад

      No there will be a gap.

  • @tovilman
    @tovilman 2 года назад

    Thanks for the plumbers mait tip , I have purchased a new pipe but the rubber will not go on the older toilet pan .are the newer fittings smaller please . What size should i order to make sure the rubber ring in the elbow fitting is the right size please .

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  2 года назад

      They are all just one size.

  • @craigmckee1259
    @craigmckee1259 Год назад

    Thank you - really helpful.

  • @raygibbs9247
    @raygibbs9247 2 года назад

    Thank you for the video. Would sanitary silicone be a suitable alternative to Plumbers mait for fixing a leaking multikwik connector rubber seal joint?

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  2 года назад +1

      Yes that is fine

    • @smartgorilla
      @smartgorilla 2 года назад

      nope nope nope as it doesnt come off clean when you need to replace it. doesnt properly seal the loo too i found. i am trying this mate stuff now, its so easy to use and then i have a rubber seal coming in. i think my floors are wobbly due to being on ply and wood only...

  • @richardbishop2254
    @richardbishop2254 7 лет назад +1

    Hi. Video confirms what I probably need to do - the nasty job (ick) of replacing the seal. I've a pan that discharges to the rear and the bog clogs regularly. When I plunge it to clear it foul water leaks into the kitchen downstairs! The Plumber's Mate job has already been done, probably badly. I'm really not looking forward to this...

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  7 лет назад +1

      Good luck with it. Al.

    • @stevecarter8810
      @stevecarter8810 Год назад

      Yikes, sounds like you're lacking proper ventilation in that run. Did you ever find you needed the soil stack fixing?

  • @Rayblondie
    @Rayblondie Год назад

    Many thanks. Two types of leaks. One from where the cistern pipe joins the back of the loo and one probably from the rubber sealed pipe that goes down to outlet to the sewer. Have to figure out which leak I have got but thanks again for your advice.

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  Год назад

      Good luck with it.

    • @Rayblondie
      @Rayblondie Год назад

      @@dereton33 Thanks for your reply. It was okay for three days but now water is coming back out of the bowl through the flushpipe. I'll try a new gasket and see if that works. I fixed the leak coming out of the enamel pipe at the back with your help but now I am getting a back flush from the smaller pipe. I'll put a new gasket in.

    • @Rayblondie
      @Rayblondie Год назад

      Plumbers World sold me a new gasket (a very soft squashy one) plus sealant. However if anything the water pours out of the back of the pan worse than ever when I flush it. I suspect that it is limescale blocking it so taking the pan out again to try and figure it out.

    • @Rayblondie
      @Rayblondie Год назад +1

      I had to throw away the plastic insert from Plumbers World. It was soft and squidgy and already malformed after a day. Found one just like yours Dereton in my garage. Works a treat but had to reseat the pan because the distance was different after changing the outflow pipe which I needn't have done as it was the inlet in the end. Thanks for your inspiration.

  • @robharwood-stamper9857
    @robharwood-stamper9857 3 года назад

    I have a toilet leaking from this multi quick join, before I start taking things apart to either replace the seal or use plumbers mait (good tip thanks)... What should I expect from removing the multi quick seal? ie is this a small pipe connecting to a ground pipe? Looks like the downpipe goes into an area I can't access without taking the floor up. I'd hope it's just a short connecting pipe, any advice?

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  3 года назад

      It will be a short connecting pipe going into the main soil stack.

  • @joycethomas3549
    @joycethomas3549 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks so much!
    Very helpful .Like I mentioned in one of the replies. Been waiting for a plumber who doesn’t seem to know what he is doing as the leak seems to be continuous and even the plumber had know idea where it was coming from until we had to figure it out hence coming here . Thanks so much but one question is we have completely replaced the waste pan but the joint still leaks so what do we do? Wish I could attach a picture. I would appreciate your response at least to be able to fix it before Christmas of 2023 🎉🎉for our guests.
    Merry Christmas to you by the way. Thanks again 🙏🏼🙏🏼

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  6 месяцев назад +1

      Best bet is to dry the joint and then pack out the seal with plumbers Mait.

    • @joycethomas3549
      @joycethomas3549 6 месяцев назад

      @@dereton33 Thanks so much .
      Very helpful!!! Will do

  • @LordByronMacintosh
    @LordByronMacintosh 4 месяца назад

    thank you!

  • @janwibrow6890
    @janwibrow6890 7 лет назад

    Can you replace the flange from the pan if the filler has already been tried and it has started to leak? That's what I'm looking for

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  7 лет назад

      Yes just get a new mutikwick pan connector.

  • @smartgorilla
    @smartgorilla 2 года назад

    thanks so much for this too. i made a little frankfurter of this round the join. hopefully stops the join leaking. i used silicone as a fix 2 yrs ago and i dont think it held anything. now this way and then butle rubber stuff

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  2 года назад +1

      Well done Dan.

    • @smartgorilla
      @smartgorilla 2 года назад

      @@dereton33 thanks. Seems to be good today and I put a plastic bag underneath to make sure it's all ok and no signs of water ...

  • @dportass
    @dportass 2 года назад

    Thanks, will be heading to B&Q shortly for some Plumber's Mait shortly to patch my dad's loo that sprung a leak

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  2 года назад

      Good luck with it David.

  • @kenmurphy4317
    @kenmurphy4317 Год назад

    Hi great vid.very helpful.my prob at the moment is I have a clay 100mm pipe flush with the ground.i am trying to find what is the best way to seal a pvc pipe inside it.who ever had probs before used a hole tube of silicone sealant around the base.but silicone always fails eventually.. the pipe I am trying to fit is a 90°flexi pipe.what is the best way to ensure it seals inside the clay pipe thanks for any advise
    .

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  Год назад

      A multikwick pan connector.

    • @kenmurphy4317
      @kenmurphy4317 Год назад

      @dereton33 will have a look thanks 😊 🙏

  • @raebirch
    @raebirch 2 месяца назад

    Thank you great help :-))

  • @42RHD
    @42RHD 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks!

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  6 месяцев назад

      No problem!. Thanks for the donation

  • @willbuckley54
    @willbuckley54 2 года назад

    Thanks. Can you help. The waste pipe from my WC is leaking at the WC end. The pipe comes out of the WC at a 90 degree angle and attaches
    to the pipe that emerges from the side wall - so the pipe is 'L' shaped essentially. It is a non flexi plastic pipe. I've bought a flexible concertina type pipe
    and was wondering if I can fit this easily without removing the pan. Or perhaps just use the plumbers mate you suggest. any help appreciated.

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  2 года назад

      The flexi one should fit ok without removing the pan.

  • @SpannerAT34
    @SpannerAT34 4 года назад

    Hi I always go to your videos first to find out what to do! So I bought the Pro Plumb flexible pan connector and replaced the old one but the leak is still dripping from the waste pipe. Why is it still leaking?

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  4 года назад +1

      May well be that the pan spigot is not perfectly round. Get a tub of plumbers mait, dry off the leak and pack the mait firmly into and around the connector.

  • @kitrssurfer9185
    @kitrssurfer9185 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks, just installed flexi pan connection and still leaking. Previous connection had always leaked years of plumbers mate used. Thought new pan connection would resolve . Now thinking it maybe the pan itself isn't circular!

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  5 лет назад

      That can be the cause.

    • @kitrssurfer9185
      @kitrssurfer9185 5 лет назад

      Thanks dereton33, I'm beginning to think by design there's something not quite right with this wc outlet. I cut away elbow which was over half filled with solid matter (gut wrenching stench).. Still not totally clear and pan filling with water most times near to top rim before flushing. Investigation continue)

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  5 лет назад

      Sounds like you have a blockage. Try using a drain rod with the plunger on, flush the toilet and pump like mad until the water level drops.

  • @stephenporter5796
    @stephenporter5796 3 года назад

    Hi, I'm doing my bathroom up. It's got the only toilet in the house, so I'm having to work around that issue. I loosened off the toilet after turning off water etc - removed tiles from behind and tidied up. On putting the toilet back in place and filling up I noticed a small leak coming from the pan connector. I thinking about a temporary replacement of flexible pan connector - do I just pull the soil pipe side out or will that be sealed - it's difficult to see how it's connected? thanks for any help

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  3 года назад

      If it is a multikwick connector as shown on the video it will just pull out. However you will need to remove the pan to do it.

  • @maggiefisher48
    @maggiefisher48 Год назад

    thanks so much it was the bungee plastic thing at the back of the toilet ...i was worried for weeks that a plumber would charge me a fortune i tapped it in gently with a small hammer and voila...(this after id pulled up all the sticky tiles and wracked my brains) im in the uk.

  • @mrv5801
    @mrv5801 3 года назад

    HI AL - IM TRYING TO FIT A MCALPINE PAN CONNECTOR ON TO AN IDEAL STANDARD TOILET PAN WITH A VERTICAL OUTLET - BUT ITS A REALLY TIGHT FIT - AND THE BLACK RUBBER SEAL KEEPS COMING OUT OF ITS HOUSING WHEN I PUSH THE PAN CONNECTOR ON THE OUTLET!!!!! DO U HAVE ANY TRICKS OF THE TRADE THAT WOULD HELP ME GET IT ON WITHOUT IT COMING OUT OF ITS HOUSING??? THANKS AL

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  3 года назад

      Yes as much liquid soap or washing up liquid on the rubber first.

  • @nerak1848
    @nerak1848 6 лет назад

    I have and old downstairs loo with a cistern & flush pipe. I thought it was leaking around the base but on closer inspection I think it might be coming from the part that attaches to the toilet itself. (The kind of u bend bit that's attached to the pan ) Any advise would be great thanks.

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  6 лет назад +1

      Best to renew that part they are called multikwick pan connectors.

    • @nerak1848
      @nerak1848 6 лет назад

      Thank you so much for your reply. I've been searching youtube endlessly to find a toilet similar to mine that someone has fixed. I only noticed it when I emptied my mop bucket when we'd just moved in & I heard it trickling out so it's definite not the flush. I shall keep you updated on my progress. Could you also advise me on the tools which I will need? I'm assuming I will have to take the whole toilet out? Also how do I measure for the size I will need? Are they a one size fits all?

    • @sairah9164
      @sairah9164 3 года назад +1

      @@nerak1848 what’s the update? Were you able to find a solution?

  • @DaemonZabuza
    @DaemonZabuza 4 года назад

    Life saver honestly must be a common problem

  • @barrydoherty636
    @barrydoherty636 9 месяцев назад

    Can you connect a flexible pan connector straight into the stack/ boss? Or do you need to put a piece of soil pipe in stack/ boss first

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  8 месяцев назад

      You will need a short piece of plastic soil pipe

    • @barrydoherty636
      @barrydoherty636 8 месяцев назад

      @@dereton33 Thank you for your reply, hope you are well.
      Regards.
      Barry.

  • @ritzmr9607
    @ritzmr9607 4 года назад

    Hi
    Plumbers mait gives away as we use bleach over time . Can we use silicone istead or foam

  • @laneroberts2729
    @laneroberts2729 4 года назад

    We've got a connector that has perished and is leaking. Presumably I can't just replace it without moving the toilet? How about cutting the soil pipe short and using a flexible, adjustable length connector?

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  4 года назад

      Yes that is also possible.

  • @hydro_pyro
    @hydro_pyro 4 года назад

    We have this problem recently. Can the entire hose/pan be replaced? How do we turn the water off to the toilet?

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  4 года назад +1

      It all can be replaced. Just shut off the water main to fix.

  • @Matowix
    @Matowix 4 года назад

    I have the older connector that is perished and a leak would silicon work ok. Do u need to move the toilet forward if u replace it I'd rather not.

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  4 года назад

      Yes, you have to remove the wc if you want to fit a new one, might be worth trying the silicon.

    • @Matowix
      @Matowix 4 года назад

      @@dereton33 is there a flexible multitit one that slips in between so u dont don't have to pull the wc forward ? Thanks

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  4 года назад

      There is a pull funnel one but it is rather long .

  • @Shaq756
    @Shaq756 Год назад

    My dad was a corgi registered plumber who is no longer alive, I can remember him using this brown sticky tape I don’t know what it’s called but he used it for the back of the toilet drain pipe and it did the trick. Now my drain pipe is leaking but I don’t know what the tape is called? If you know of course as it may have been an unknown method back in the 70s I am giving my age away lol

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  Год назад +1

      It is Denso tape. Used it a lot myself.

    • @Shaq756
      @Shaq756 Год назад

      @@dereton33 thank you

  • @roidroid
    @roidroid 9 лет назад

    Rather than Multi-Quick Connector as you call it, most people seem to call it a "Pan Connector"

  • @rfmlets6713
    @rfmlets6713 3 года назад

    How do you get the plumbers mate into the pipe rubber if its connected to the soil pipe?

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  3 года назад

      Just push it in around the rubber.

    • @ryansbath2010
      @ryansbath2010 3 года назад

      Behind the rubber seal or on top?

  • @shazadmohammed925
    @shazadmohammed925 7 месяцев назад

    Hi, I replaced my pan connector with a Mcalpine Pan connector but it is still leaking. The connector is not level with the toilet. Do you think that is why it is still leaking? There is a slight tilt of around 1cm.

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  7 месяцев назад +1

      No that is a small one cm. Try packing the joint with plumbers mait. Some pans are not rounded enough on there outlets.

  • @stevendouglas3860
    @stevendouglas3860 4 года назад

    Should I put silicone around those rubber joint ...

  • @AntOfThy
    @AntOfThy 3 года назад

    Thank you for a rare video on this type of leak.
    You never explain how to actually replace the rubber ring seal... You just say use plumbers mate. I doubt that would work if the seal has a crack in it. I got the seal off, but I can't get the new one on!

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  3 года назад +1

      I have used plumbers mait for years with a very high success rate. You will have to take the pan out to fit a new one of these.

    • @AntOfThy
      @AntOfThy 3 года назад +1

      @@dereton33 Oh I got is out, its getting the locking ring back on after fitting in a new rubber seal that seems basicly impossible!
      I figure there is some trick to it.

  • @andyr4735
    @andyr4735 2 года назад

    Is it possible for the cast iron pipe itself to become porous and leak? I found a leak but was having the bathroom redone at some point so ignored it. Now with a new wc and flange it still leaks when flushed

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  2 года назад

      Yes it can rust through and leak.

  • @markc7954
    @markc7954 Год назад

    We have one on the cistern, the bottom seems to be dripping.
    I have replaced the dual flush button recently including the assembly for the flushing mechanism.
    It was dripping before hand and I thought I could solve both problems 1 being the dual flush was only working on full.
    And 2 the bottom of the cistern was dripping the latter seems to be still happening after trying with the old and new parts.
    I used a bit of plumbers tape on the threads this does not seem to have solved it for me.
    The cistern is on the wall and pipe down to the pan..
    Its armatage shanks brand I'm using a flow master from toolstation for the new dual flush mechanism.
    Do gaskets on these often not seal properly.
    If so what should I be doing to resolve this problem.
    Many thanks for any info anyone can provide

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  Год назад

      If it is coming from the syphon nut just give it a tighten with some grips, if it is running down the flush pipe then the rubber deal needs replacing around the flush pipe.

  • @katherinelynes2268
    @katherinelynes2268 2 года назад

    Hi big al we have a leak at bk of toilet think it’s the pipe that goes from toilet to the back of the wall and there is a gap on it where there is a gap which I think maybe the sealing stuff has gone what should I do

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  2 года назад

      Dry it all off and try some plumbers mait around the gap.

  • @richardhall9500
    @richardhall9500 3 года назад

    Sorry bro....it didn't help. I want to replace that black rubber collar, not use Plumbers Mate which you said is really only a temporary fix before it leaked again. I've got a new rubber ring and want to know how to remove it. Do I push it in and pull it out or what? Thanks.

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  3 года назад

      You will need to remove the pan to fit that, renewing the ring is a waste of time as once the pan is out you may as well renew the multikwick pan connector complete.

  • @petehill8885
    @petehill8885 8 месяцев назад

    Hi , what do i need to do before I remove the back pipe? Thank you

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  8 месяцев назад

      Just pull the black washer back from the pan, clean it all up and replace then use plumbers mait

  • @davemorley85
    @davemorley85 5 лет назад

    Fitted a new pan connector to the back of the toilet and the soil pipe but the only problem is that the inside of the soil pipe has the rubber ring missing inside it. The soil pipe was installed about 40 years ago. I’ve now got a leak where the pan connector joins on to the soil pipe and I think it’s because the rubber ring is missing inside the soil pipe. Do you have any tips or advice for this situation? It would be very much appreciated.

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  5 лет назад

      Dry the joint right out, then force some plumbers mait into the gap where the O ring should be.

    • @davemorley85
      @davemorley85 5 лет назад

      dereton33 Thanks for the reply. My plumber has tried that twice now but it’s still leaking! Is there anything else that can be done without having to put a whole new soil pipe in? That would be a nightmare just for the sake of a rubber ring being missing!

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  5 лет назад

      Have you tried a high quality sealer mastic, again make sure the whole joint is dry before applying it.

    • @davemorley85
      @davemorley85 5 лет назад

      dereton33 I don’t think he’s tried that. Is that instead of the plumbers mait? Which one is best to use and what is it called? I just hope the leak isn’t being caused because there’s a crack in the soil pipe where it connects to the pan connector.

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  5 лет назад

      Dig out all the plumbers mait and make sure the joint is dry and do not use the flush for up to 8 hours. There are lots of mastics out there just choose a good make.

  • @pauldoe1322
    @pauldoe1322 5 лет назад

    Have cast iron wc out flow which keeps leaking at connector to the back of pan best way to fix please

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  5 лет назад

      Fit a new multikwick pan connector, or fill the joint with plumbers mait, make sure it is dry when applying.

  • @oumuamua1963
    @oumuamua1963 2 года назад

    I need to replace my toilet it has a side exit for the soil pipe how do I measure and buy the correct replacement toilet centre of the soul pipe is 15cm from the wall but seems to join onto the toilet 25 cm from the wall this seems odd most measurement online show 12 to 14 cm from wall to waste

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  2 года назад

      Just buy a standard straight outlet pan and use a flexi bent to get the correct angle.

  • @ryansbath2010
    @ryansbath2010 3 года назад

    Where do you put the plumbers mait

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  3 года назад

      Push it into the rubber seal.

  • @pas6862
    @pas6862 6 лет назад

    I wish you lived next door to me!!!

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  6 лет назад +3

      So do I, my neighbours are ....... Ill leave to your imagination.

  • @davidappleton1124
    @davidappleton1124 Год назад

    Hi there . What’s your thoughts on this leak ?

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  Год назад +1

      Worse kind of leak to have. Sometimes you have to take the pan out to completely renew the pan connector.

  • @sutats
    @sutats Год назад

    The biggest challenge in life. lol

  • @gazimbo3176
    @gazimbo3176 7 месяцев назад

    Can a leak in the join at the back cause the toilet not to empty after flushing?

  • @sairah9164
    @sairah9164 3 года назад

    We have replaced our flexible wc pan connector many times as we have been getting leaks every few months. When we remove the connector there are holes every time! Is it possible for rats to eat away at the connector? We cannot find a solution!

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  3 года назад

      I don`t know Ive never seen that problem.

  • @Pierremontquaker03
    @Pierremontquaker03 3 года назад

    I have this issue, as I am flushing the toilet the water leaks. It is a porcelain tiled floor and the toilet has been stuck down to the tiles - looks like I am going to have to take the bloody thing off some how to fix it!

  • @sandiehutchinson9575
    @sandiehutchinson9575 Месяц назад

    Please can you help me my pipe goes horizontal out to the wall it peaks when I flush the toilet on a joint

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  Месяц назад

      Try pushing some plumbers mait into the leaking joint or some mastic.

  • @bradburyrobinson
    @bradburyrobinson 5 лет назад

    Al, I've got this problem now and I'm NOT looking forward to this one! :(

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  5 лет назад

      A not so nice job unfortunately.

  • @earltpt
    @earltpt 2 года назад

    What’s the point of a temporary fix when a new part is only a fiver and youve got the toilet disassembled anyway

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  2 года назад

      Most people will not be able to dissemble, so this is a temporary job until the plumber is available.

  • @Bigfellr
    @Bigfellr 5 лет назад +1

    I'm here because my toilet is broken

  • @andrevdm6406
    @andrevdm6406 3 года назад

    ...more suitable title would've been "Talking about how to fix a leak at the back of your wc pan"

    • @dereton33
      @dereton33  3 года назад

      You try getting a camera round the back of there.