Nuclear Fallout Accidentally Discovered at a Montana Trail
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2022
- While exploring a radioactive trail leading up to the Gallatin Towers climbing area in South Western Montana I found evidence of nuclear fallout that was from nuclear testing 65 years ago at the Nevada Test Site. I was only able to detect this fallout using a Radiacode 101 as it was able to show a gamma spectrum of the radiation I was detecting.
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That radiation that you are detecting is most likely from Arco Idaho. The nuclear lab in Arco had an accident back some time in the 50's or 60's. The test reactor had a meltdown and breached containment. The map you showed for the fall out starts at and around arco. Just an fyi. I live in Idaho as well.
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I was wondering about Hanford in Washington state. I believe they had an accident at some point as well.
@@LonC1966 Hanford is where the Manhattan Project took place and is where they store all the nuclear waste and I do believe you're correct that it's the location of what's called the nuclear elephant's foot that was created during an accident there that was enclosed once and they had to construct a larger containment around it to dismantle the previous failing containment...
And they wonder why cancer is such a huge issue in our society, the government exposed us all over generations now to the repercussions of their weapon curiosity
@@RogueSmithers you're mixing up Hanford and Chernobyl two very different places.
@@RogueSmithers Hanford is one of the locations that the Manhattan Project took place. There were about 30 sites spread out between the US, Canada and the UK that played a part in research, development and testing. Oak Ridge Tennessee being one and the Army Garrison headquarters at that time. I work with a lot of Rad Tech's and Engineers that worked a lot of those sites. The elephant's foot is underneath Chernobyl's original core location. The fuel melted and fused with the sand underneath the reactor core building forming the elephant's foot. It was actually a good thing it formed or the contamination spread would have been much worse.
In the late '80's early '90's I did a lot of outcrop logging with a gamma-ray scintillometer to produce synthetic GR logs to accompany lithologic descriptions. Our instrument of choice was about the size of shoe box, weighed ~12lbs and ate batteries like crazy. Now I see you with a pocket tool. I'm so jealous.
I uhhhh, English? I don’t speak smart people 😅
@@stopredless8447 30 year ago tech vs current tech
@@stopredless8447 In layman's terms: That little pocket size machine can do what a backpack size machine did 40 years ago.
@@bueb8674 ok this helps!
@@stopredless8447 Although I am not at all up on nuclear science, I can give you another example that was given to me. A fact that is rather mind-blowing, again to me. There is far more computer memory, punch and power in your smartphone than in the computers NASA astronauts used to fly to the moon and back.
Im still waiting for your channel to blow up. You will get there some day, keep up the hard work! This content is worthy of a lot more subscribers!
Thanks for the encouragement and I’m glad you are enjoying the videos.
Given this video was about Nuclear Fallout I would have avoided the term, “blow up”, but otherwise agree with you.
Just a matter of time. Good stuff
I am determined to try to set up a collaboration between Drew and Gly from lost and forgotten places. They both have great personalities and they share a love of wonderful production quality. This content deserves to go viral. There was a time when legacy TV would air quality media like this but it seems to be passed now in favour of celebrity reality mogadon for the masses. 😳
Do you know Prince George Utah? The uranium mine waste was taken to Hollywood studio used to fill and grade. People did become sick 😫 first bomb.
I lived in Montana in the early 60s. I remember being warned about radioactive snow.
Wow…at least they warned you.
@@RadioactiveDrew Mostly telling us not to eat the snow.
do not eat the glowing snow
There's quite a bit of mines, tailings and old possibly government sites back on the "Navajo reservation" Arizona from 1920' - 1970's ish. Where abandoned equipment, waste, and uranium deposits can still be found. If that's interest you.
For those who don't know, The "Baby tooth study" is a super interesting study into the fallout, and where it settled after the first rounds of nuclear testing
The Chernobyl fallout settled around the alps. Its still forbidden to eat mushrooms from these forrests because radiation has concentrated in there. If a hunter shoots wild boars he has to dispose it as nuclear waste because they love to eat mushrooms.
@@indahooddererste They probably aren't trying to give away a lot of information for those of us who genuinely want to check it out.. i.e.; avoiding spoilers..
The more thumbs up the more the system recommends the channel. This guy needs more exposure so click the up thumb on as many comments as you can.
I did a paper in the 90's about the continental contamination from above ground nuclear testing. People would be surprised what we did to ourselves!
Oh yeah, they nuked the crap out of Utah.
To your point, lots of thyroid cancer in folks from Central Montana that grew up in the 70s. My mom and dad lost friends to it.
This is something I would like to investigate further.
@@RadioactiveDrew could be really interesting. The half life of Iodine 131 is only like, 8 days; so that means it only had a couple of weeks to float from the test sites, accumulate, and cause damage. That is of course if the thyroid issues were primarily from I-131. I honestly don't know, just a theory. 👍
Can you please consider doing an episode on gamma spectroscopy, using your RadiaCode 101 using some of the items that you have in your collection, such as the radium and uranium sources to see how well it works in identifying these known isotopes?
I think I could do that.
I live in a small region in Australia which is known to have been specifically impacted by fallout from a British nuclear test conducted quite distantly (in the late ‘50s) and brought down by heavy rain. It’s not _widely_ known due to secrecy, and the local dairy industry was particularly affected with limited and insufficient quarantining of milk (also very hushed). If spectrographic tools like this are affordable now, I’d be fascinated to do some surveying myself. Some evidence of residual contamination would be helpful in revealing the truth of this awful event to those who were never aware or have forgotten.
Thanks for this short but enlightening presentation.
Just checking in to make sure you haven't been silenced, lol
The Montebello Islands, I learned about it in Biggles who mentions it in "Biggles in Australia"...
78yr old American veteran, living at White Bird, Idaho. Thanks for the information.
I love that a lot of the narration was done outdoors at the trail. Not many youtubers do that, instead favoring a studio setup. While studio setups sound great, they feel more sterile.
Almost all of the nuclear weapons tests conducted in the contentental US were in southern Nevada. If you look at your fallout map you can see a path that starts in eastern Idaho. You're probably detecting fallout from the Idaho National Labratory between Arco, Idaho and Idaho Falls. Lots of blown up, melded down reactors out there.
Thank you, for your channel. I've always said these are criminally underrated videos.
There has been meltdowns out at the INL but the contamination from those incidents were extremely localized. So the likelihood of it being from there is extremely low. There have been 16 fallout clouds that have passed over the area I tested. So the likelihood of it being from those Nevada nuclear tests is pretty good.
Thanks for being such a fan of the channel.
@@RadioactiveDrew The actor John Wayne was making a movie, I believe 'The Conqueror' in 1955, in I believe southern Utah, during a Nevada test. He later contracted cancer and swore that the atomic test was the cause of it.
@@RadioactiveDrew In addition, fallout from Fukushima did make it to Montana so some of it could be from that.
The fallout from Fukushima didn’t make it to Montana. The explosion wasn’t nearly powerful enough for that.
@@jackbailey7037 "He later contracted cancer and swore that the atomic test was the cause of it..." Swore, as in a sworn affidavit? And how would he know? He was a life-long chain smoker and developed lung cancer. There are alternative explanations.
Hi, I don’t know if you have heard this, I grew up in St. Louis, MO. I was in 3rd grade in 1959. The school collected our ‘baby teeth’. It turned out they were doing an ‘autopsy’ on us to determine our Cesium 137 exposure. Chemically it looks like calcium, so it ended up in teeth and bones. Kennedy signed a treaty that stopped open air testing in the early’60s. I’m sure that fallout 1,500-2,000 miles down win changed a lot of minds. They didn’t have anything near as nice as your gamma wave detector back then. Back then they didn’t even know that they needed it. (So the story goes)
Usually strontium-90 is the fallout isotope that gets into the bones.
ב''ה, and the "Tooth Fairy" was born.
Cs is more like Na and K as far as mimicking other elements. Those 3 are all in same group in periodic chart.
My coffee mug once sent a geiger counter nutter. It was earthenware, made by my great grandmother from West Virginia mountain clay. We suspect one of the glazes used was the culprit, as that same clay made all the old moonshine jugs. More radioactive than my 17 jewel Gruen gold watch radium hands and dial markers.
I’d love me some radioactive moonshine…
That should be a concern to your health.
My parents have a couple of old moonshine earthernware jugs. I'll have to test them next time I'm in the area. They keep them outside as part of the garden decor.
Uranium oxide glaze was a thing bsck in the day, orange in colour. Over here it's quite collectable
@@MrRedeyedJedi The Hatfields still run some stills and they do collect and love her moonshine jugs.
The coffee mug has red and orange bands of color around it. It emits mostly Gamma radiation I guess. I've had it 'since 1969 when she passed away at 103 years old - only because she fell off her roof. I tried yelling at her "What were you doing up on your roof you silly bat?!! She was spicy. "It was leaking and YOU sure weren't nowhere around offerin' to fix it!" So I think I'll keep using her coffee mug with love in honor of her spiciness. radioactivity and all.
RUclips suggested your channel today, and I’m glad that it did. Fascinating video that captured my attention. Keep it up!!!
Just stumbled across this video, have been greatly intetested in anything and everything radiation related, so ofcourse i was very happy indeed to find your channel!
These videos are helping me out a great deal. You have a gift. You communicate with your audience in a way the average person can understand, follow and find interesting. This may seem somewhat simplistic to you, and you may not even realize you are doing this. But, you are. A lot of people cannot do this.
Thanks. I think it comes from talking to lots of people about this subject.
So glad I found your channel yesterday. Great video!
Glad to have you here.
Your channel contains awesome content! Love this! Keep it coming!
I've lived all over that country and never knew this. Thanks for the video.
Wouldn’t have expected this high after more than 6 decades. That map explains some things I experienced in Idaho. The wildlife would set off detectors when they came close to the facility. Then they’d have to be collected (with a 30-06).
No one does, we weren't taught to believe anything other than that.
Cs-137 for example has a half life of about 30 years and it takes about 10 half lifes for a radioactive source to decay back to background levels. That's 3 centuries.
In any case, after 3 or 4 half lifes we are still looking at high levels. So 1 century is still an health issue - and that is just for Cs137.
Plutonium has a half life of 24,000 years. Good luck with that radioactive contaminant in the environment.
Really nice and interesting video. Amazing quality as always. Wouldn't have thought that fallout from such a distance and long time ago.
Same here. But it makes sense based on the half-life of Cs137 and the fallout patterns from that time period.
In the early 60's I took a course in survival in a nuclear incident, and while in the service I actually witnessed a detonation. Your right it's not as risky out there just don't eat off the ground, lol.
Born and raised in Bozeman. Never heard of anything up there being affected. Thank you for sharing this.
You didn't even get a superpower? That's unfortunate!
@@SCARFACE69247 highly disappointing
@@usmc88fan Lol
“Affected” is being generous, it’s not like the levels are remotely dangerous. Plus all around the Rockies have higher than normal levels of radiation from natural uranium deposits anyway!
@@Sniperboy5551 Exactly.
I love your videos they are so inspiring and i did a school presentation with stuff you teached me. Keep going man!😄
That’s so awesome. Hopefully all my info was correct.
I’m nearly sixty and I still love learning! I sense that you will go far my young friend. Never stop learning!
@@robinwells8879 there is so much to learn and explore with the subject of radiation I feel like I will never stop learning.
I just discovered your channel. I'm hooked.
Really interesting find. And nicely shot video. Keep it up!
Thanks...I'm glad people like the way these are shot.
Been enjoying your outdoor exploring episodes for radioactive materials. Place might be interesting is Colorado near Rulison. Back in the late 60's they did tests with nuclear devices for gas extraction.
I think someone has suggested that location before.
Great location and very informative thankyou drew and regards from Scotland to you all on here....fallout is scary but I'm amazed that there's still signs of atomic tests wow bro...wow
I was very surprised to find it as well. I thought I was going to find isotopes of thorium and uranium out there.
Amazing stuff glad i found this channel 👍💯
Glad you found it as well.
That cancer map you showed looks pretty similar to the fallout map that I saw on another channel, where it was said that the USA copped a huge amount of fallout from it’s own weapons testing. Think it was Veritasium talking about FFT’s or Tom Scott’s channel.
The FFT video gets into that? Now I have to watch it. It keeps showing up in my feed, but having watched Numberphile's long FFT video, didn't think Veritasium would have a whole lot of new info.
@@chris-hayes - this:
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Another fascinating find….I enjoy these.
Thanks man. I always like making them as I feel like I get to learn something new in the process.
Thank you for the information.
Did you collect some soil and take it with you to record a clearer spectrum at home? The Cs peak protrudes only very weakly from the spectrum. Try the difference between linear and logarithmic representation. You can save the spectrum in the library and export it from there as an XML file. Would you please provide this online?
Maybe you are interested in tips etc. for the RadiaCode, then take a look at the geigerzaehlerforum (mostly in german). We have been supporting the device since it was launched in early 2021.
Have been really enjoying your content. I have been interested in radioactive things since my dad gave me a radium dial aircraft timer when I was about 4 years old. He had borrowed a Geiger counter from his physics lab to demonstrate. Looks like I will be upgrading my old Vic Tic pretty soon now that there are cool new data acquisition units like the Radeye
The Radeye is a pretty cool unit and I really like using mine. I wish there was a better option out there to be honest. Support from Thermo Fisher sucks and they make all the accessories so expensive. But having a detector that can do alpha, beta and gamma...dose rates...use energy compensated filters for dose rates and a bunch of other survey meter tasks is pretty handy.
I just got interested in your channel and I love your videos. They’re super interesting and shed light on a lot of things. I’m just curious, what’s the highest amount of radiation you’ve ever detected in person?
The highest level I’ve ever detected was from a family member that got injected with Tc-99m for imaging. It was crazy how radioactive they were. About 1 mSv/hr of gamma radiation, which is a decent amount to sit next to.
@@RadioactiveDrew That seems terribly excessive for the purposes of biological imaging. Surely modern sensors can achieve perfectly adequate resolution with vastly smaller quantities of radio-tracers/contrasts.
Your videos are amazing!! I enjoy watching them!! Keep it up and hopefully your channel will blow!
I really got into radiation testing during the COVID lockdown and since then I’ve been doing all sorts of testing and collecting. I actually bought the radiacode 101 a year ago and found out that the tiles in my house are slightly radioactive with thorium peaks, which is really interesting!!!
It’s always interesting finding something radioactive that you’ve been around a bunch not realizing it’s even a little radioactive. Glad you are enjoying the videos.
This channel really radiates 😀
Come to Mississippi and inspect the Tatum Salt Dome. The only nuclear underground test East of the Mississippi River. This was a test conducted in a salt formation at roughly 1000' at depth. Some rich history with the test that also include a second test in the underground excavated salt dome.
Just stumbled upon this channel. How do you connect your radiation readings to GPS coordinates? Are you just overlaying GPS track time stamps over the detector timestamps in a spreadsheet?
Great channel!! Solid find!!
Glad you found the channel.
New subscriber to your channel, .... and REALLY ENJOYING it's content ....
Glad to have you here.
Atmospheric ground testing of nuclear weapons in Nevada produced particulate clouds. These clouds of particulates seeded water clouds and produced localized precipitation events that contained high levels of radioactive materials. Particulates became the nuclei of water droplets, which fell as rain, and then sometimes the water portion evaporated before it hit the ground. These events produced particles that were collected and mixed by the water condensation, then as the water evaporated they were gathered together into dust sized particles which eventually settled to the ground.
I love my B20-ER, but that Radiascan looks awesome!
Yeah, I wish I initially got the B20-ER model but I’m super happy with the B20. It’s been a very solid detector for these last couple years.
fascinating, Montana.. like all the western states are great places to to hike and explore.. I would love to explore some of the locations in your videos when I retire in 2024 though climbing and hiking is my main interest.. this only adds another interesting detail to think about.
I hope you get to explore Montana one of these days. Just keep an eye out for our Grizzlies.
As far as a gamma spectrometer goes, the radiacode 101 has pretty poor resolution. It will pick up the spectrum of a smoke detector pretty easily but it's really bad at picking out stuff from uranium ore. It's great as a general purpose meter you can take on trips and keep in your pocket for long term data collection to identify geographic hotspots.
Would you be able to recommend any portable gamma spectrometers for field work? I’ve used energy dispersive x-Ray microanalyzers professionally, but they’re not very portable. Thanks for your consideration.
It's crazy that A-Bomb tours used to be a thing back in the day. People would pay to sit in a spot designated safe and upwind from fallout and watch the bomb go off.
I'd definitely do that.
Nicely done. That Radiacode is a lot cheaper than my home setup, and it travels, very cool.
I would like to get a home setup to run more exact tests. The Radiacode 101 is great for quick and dirty stuff.
Amazing package in such a small size. Truly remarkable.
I'm from Billings, Montana! I like your videos
Love the beartooth mountains.
Greet's from Germany/Poland
Good stuff you deserve way more views than what the algorithm is giving you
Thanks. I’m pretty happy with the amount of views I’ve been getting over the last couple days.
I worked in software development for nuclear detectors early in my career. It's stronger some places then others but you can pick it up anywhere in the world. It just takes a tiny trace amount to produce a signal.
And create a cancer
@@celtglen At those levels it would be one chance in many millions. If even that. If you have ever gone outside you have received far far more ionizing radiation from the UV.
Great videos!
I love my radiacode! Great to see more content with it, you did a great job explaining the risk levels 👍
Thanks. I'm really enjoying the Radiacode as well. Works great.
@@RadioactiveDrew how much does the radiacode cost?
Thanks another great video ‼️✌🏽
Glad you keep coming back for them.
This is awesome man
I live in the state of New Mexico. And from what I was told that the average background radiation is a lot higher here than most places I guess that’s because we went boom first with the atomic bomb and we continue to do it here for years on end
Interesting to see how far detectors have come. Back in the day a group from Sandia and Lawrence Livermore visited my work site. They were part of DOEs NEST team. We provided different sources and completed items for them to train on detecting hidden items. Their equipment was in a small motor home which they would drive by the test area and get their readings. They actually detected each source and where they were manufactured.
I visited the NTS too. That was a fascinating place. For me, the vacuum testing was the most interesting.
Cyclotron Engineer here. Love the videos
The Kodak company new the first nuclear test was done half way across the country when there x ray film got spots on at the factory . Scary shit that they polluted the planet 🌏 back then .
I'm Canadian, years ago we'd come down to that area to the Radiation mines for healing. Would that be the same?
Dana Durnford (YT) has been reporting on the world's radioactivity for years. He "live" streams several times a week, with 24/7 phone-in, too... and, every show is packed with nuclear updates and knowledge - and, will defintely add to Radoactive Drew's investigations. Cheers
I like your method of reporting without finger wagging. Were you able to locate the isotopes, isolate and remove it? Or was it over a widespread area?
I tried to remove some of the dirt in the crack of that rock to isolate the cesium 137. But I was unsuccessful in getting deep enough in that rock. I plan to go back with some different tools to help.
If you ever come to Colorado I'd love to see what you find at the site of the former Rocky Flatts nuclear site. They have opened up much of the site to a wildlife preserve, although I think some small parts of the site are off limits.
I’ve visited the site before and hiked around the perimeter fence. Had some black SUVs watching me off in the distance. I want to go back there and make a proper video about the place.
There is a large development near by: Candelas. Be careful
Probably full of weird creatures the rangers talk of
There’s a sign at the entrance to a hiking trail at Rock Flats explaining the risks (minimal) and reminding people they are going to die of something, someday. Maybe a mountain lion attack. It’s almost poetic.
@@BillLaBrie the risk is NOT minimal unless youre talking about greed
Ever hear of the story behind the shooting of the John Wayne movie 'The Conqueror' and how the crew and cast all had very high cancer rates. They shot the movie in a fallout zone. Maybe visit the shooting location and see what pops up.
That would be cool to check out.
One of the strongest Conqueror film locations is about 10 miles north and slightly west of St. George, Utah in an area now called Snow Canyon State Park
@@waynegnarlie1 southern utah had massive cancer rates from above ground testing--the usa goooooovermint fought against compendsation for years until everybody sueing died--i did work as a contractor in the Nevada test site when they went with underground testing--we always wore monitors--mine never went off
Fascinating - thank you.
After about 2000 nuke tests in Nevada it shouldn't be a surprise.
THERE'S THIS PLACE.....up near Dawsonville GA. Back in the 60's they would expose missile components and other electronic gear to giant doses of gamma radiation - presumably to see how the devices would perform in a nuclear environment, being bombed, etc. They used a source on an elevator that rose up and blasted the test articles for a specified time, then was lowered back into it's shielded enclosure. I'm not sure where it is, but it's sort-of off limits, but people have clambered all over the place..... might be worth a look if you ever get into north Georgia. Pretty good barbecue here, too. I'm a radioman and a junk collector and your video of the aircraft instruments inspired me to find and collect all my radium-bearing meters in my parts room and ....take them out of the house. They say they're "SEALED - DO NOT OPEN".... but they're in ammo cans on the porch now. (What does one do with such stuff anyhow without getting on some evil watch list?) Love your stuff. You may have raised my chances of living to old age, Drew. Thanks. Jeff
Thanks for the heads up on that location. I’ll have to look into it. Those radium gauges are usually pretty spicy and if they aren’t still sealed can leak radium dust, which is a pretty big problem. The ones I have I keep in an old safe away from everyone. They can be stored safely but I’m not a big fan of having stuff that hot and a gamma emitter in the house.
That would be a intresting thing to do in Australia we had a few atmospheric tests
another great video
Thanks.
Hey just found this channel, awesome content :D Where did you get your Radiacode 101, if I may ask?
I bought it from their site. Came within a week which makes me think they must have a distribution area here in the states. When I bought it they didn’t send me a confirmation email or tracking number. Had to reach out to someone on the chat for their site. So keep that in mind if you’re going to order one.
@@RadioactiveDrew Sounds good, appreciate it!
The detectors I trained with started reading at 1/rad per hour. We were trained to walk in find that reading and mark the line. Then walking the edge to mark a relatively safe path for following units. Seems your unit is much more sensitive.
Yeah, modern equipment is much, much more sensitive. A lot of the readings he’s getting wouldn’t have even been noticed back in the day, it’s hardly even something to be concerned about now.
1 rad/hr is a fair amount of dose.
Any suggestions on places to purchase radiation detectors and working survey meters at a good price
Just to say that I really love *All* of the video's I have seen so far, since subscribing last week! Your use of the Radiacode 101 on the Montana Trail was exactly what I hoped it would be, as I am really looking forward to getting my own Radiacode 101 to go alongside my Radiascan 701A, to add Blueteeth; GPS; and highly portable Gamma Spectroscopy to my kit!
Dear Santa. Please, even!
Your videos amazes me every time, it also amazes me that America has een big area of elevated readings of radioactivity and probably caused people back in the days to have elevated risks of cancer, "but we are not sure so let us speculate ;)"
Thank you for your amazing content videos i really learn a lot about radioactivity and elements its really interesting
U mentioned cancer...My passing comment is dont have sex with anyone who got the juice
It is unlikely, at best, to have caused any significant cancer increases. The average resident of Denver Colorado is exposed to more natural radiation than this at about 11.8 millisieverts a year. In fact, at this rate, if you were exposed to no other sources of radiation, you'd still be below the average for a US citizen (3 millisieverts a year) at 2.69 millisieverts. About half of that number for the average per year for a US resident is from natural sources, the other is from medical sources or man made sources (people living near coal and gas power plants are expired to a lot of radioactive material in the particulate discharge of said plants).
So while this level is higher than the average background radiation level of 0.1 to 0.2 microsieverts an hour, it's not significantly higher.
I picked up a cheap Chinese GM tube counter as a first detector/dosimitier. Loved the fallout map you displayed. I'll try to see if I can find a good copy online. I live in Washington state, My background is detected at 0.12 usv/h which is lower than I expected as the map suggests the area is between 1 and 2. I was surprised to find my smoke detectors at contact, were only about double background. They are insignificant. On the other hand, do have some lantern mantles. Didn't have the Coleman brand, but do have the Aladdin brand for an Aladdin kerosene lamp. The mantle package in contact was about 12 usv/hr, so considerable, but not detectable at any real distance more than a foot away. Because I didn't know how strong the radiation was, I keep those in the cupboard over the fridge, so rarely get closer than 2 feet from them in the kitchen. Nice show. It will be unlikely for me to buy the detector you showed, even though a spectrum for isotope detection is quite cool.
The americium 241 in smoke detectors can be extremely active. You need to have the right detector to see it. If you have a detector that can see alpha radiation you will be surprised how active those little buttons can be. Also they give off very low energy gamma radiation.
@@RadioactiveDrew The $40 detector I bought has a glass GM tube and I didn't take the detector apart. Not sure the alpha sensitivity with a glass GM tube. Anyway, it was interisting to test anyway. It really detects the emission from those mantles.
The alpha radiation won’t be able to make it through that glass.
You have to wonder if the source might be more specific than mere fallout. Satellite Iridium-33 debris from 09 onward could have landed in Montana, I personally saw one fireball as far south as Oregon.
@RadioactiveDrew What cheap $50USD android phone did you buy for this counter?
back in the 1960's, my dad, a chemical engineer with Union Carbide, spent lots of time around Bozeman, MT working with uranium mines and other stuff I didn't know about..I wonder if you are looking as some of the stuff he was playing with.
I know there are some uranium claims around here. But the isotope cesium-137 is manmade.
So is there a map where and when the test(s) occurred that created the fallout?
About 22 years ago several friends and I were traveling North through the canyon at around 4:30 am. We all witnessed a spectacular and very large ufo hovering over the Portal Creek area. I went up Portal Creek road recently and it is very obvious that a large circular area of the forest has encountered serious stunted growth!
Not sure if it's related at all to your discovery but, it seems like a pretty interesting coincidence.
Could the radiation be from Eastern Washington's production of plutonium in the 40's, 50's and 60's. There was a huge downwind exposure to the population of Wasington and Idaho. My father died from cancer related to being a "downwinder".
Go to Marysvale, Utah where Pratt Seegmiller hit the mother lode in uranium in 1951. 300 East Center Street was the uranium annex. I used to live in that building way back when.
Andrew, can you do spectroscopy with the RadEye? I have a RadEye and I'm trying to figure out how to identify isotopes with it.
Radiacode ought to sponsor you for this vid if they haven't already....there are some places here in AZ I'd love to show you with that, btw.
You mentioned $50? That's for the app, I'm assuming? The device seems to run around 400 USD if you order direct.
Thermo Fisher does make an isotope identifier but it’s $20K or something like that. I know for sure the Radeye B20 doesn’t do gamma spectroscopy.
The $50 I was talking about was for a cheap Samsung phone that can run that app. The app is free and they are working on one for iPhone.
@@RadioactiveDrew Gotcha.
Great video as always, I wonder if there are still any hotspots in Orange NJ from the Radium Dial Studios
More than likely you could find some hot spots out there. Radium contamination in the environment is very hard to get rid of completely.
@@RadioactiveDrew Yes, Radium City is a great documentary and one of the workers who was there during it's demolition salvaged a table from some of the wood from there and indeed it was contaminated
Like this in Pa?
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@@RadioactiveDrew You folks make me want to pick up a Radiacode and go back up to Ottawa, IL again to look for traces from the cleanup of Radium Dial Company and Luminous Processes, Inc.
That would be a cool place to explore.
Interesting stuff. New sub 👍
Thanks.
very curious to know about the Nuke Testing done in Mississippi in the Salt domes, i've read accounts of "green radioactive foam" as a result of bomb testing there back in the 40s/50s
Never heard of this, thank you
On bob Lazar web site he sells sand turned green rock from the trinity test site if I remember right
I live near Dawson Forest in Georgia. Lockheed left some nasty stuff there. The firehouse closest has a map outlining the hot spots.
That would be cool to check out.
I am a rockhound, and I would love to know what type of detector would be good for me to stay safe? We have lots of cinnabar and uranium mines not far from where I live.
I would love to see you come to Colorado and see if you can detect any plutonium downwind and downstream from the Rocky flats munitions plant where they have plutonium go into the river and also have plutonium fires... I heard in the news a few years ago that they decided not to finish building the 470 freeway because of contamination in the Arvada and golden area.
I've been to the site before, some years ago before I was making videos. I'm planning on going back to investigate the area a bit more and make a video.
I-131 has an 8-day half-life. That means in a month It has reduced by 16x. Iodine typically comes from milk and seafood, reducing or eliminating your consumption of these items for 1 month after the accident will drastically lower your risk (and is also effective if you don't have KI around). This is what they should have done for the Chornobyl accident (which even though handled badly, still killed very few people, and few got thyroid cancer). Radiation is a hazard, but it is the dose that makes the poison - very high one-time doses or moderately high ones over a long time have a significant effect. Anything low dose has no statistical negative effect. There is no need to live in abject fear of radiation in our daily lives and nuclear plants release far less radiation than coal plants. Also, the Gy numbers quoted account for ALL the radiation released, not just I-131. The actual I-131 was far lower than the total release, and due to its short half-life, decayed quickly. Thyroid cancer has a 99% survival rate, particularly if addressed quickly, but it is easily prevented in a nuclear release from these tips. The bomb on the other hand is the real problem.
Nice to see people getting it right. You’re the only other person I’ve read in the comments say “the dose makes the poison”. Which is the same thing I tell people.
There is also a controversy about exotic,man made radio-isotopes found on mars...... Fallout on land would be also be worse without rainfall and the movement of material down the watershed and transported out by water movement, basically leaching process. Its how the oceans became salty.
It is in Alaska as well they found it up there too
You need to check out Santa Susana Field Laboratory just outside of Los Angeles CA. Famed nuclear reactor meltdown back in the 50/60’s…
I’ve hiked around the area and have done some preliminary filming for a video about the area. Lots of people have requested a video about the site.
Might be worth a few more trips to the area. I could see a multi episode series on this one. The wildfires that recently ravaged the area actually pushed fallout into surrounding areas and neighborhoods. Water runnoff off the mountain has always been know to be “hot”. Lots of national coverage has sprung up on this facility over the last ten years. Lots of curios minds. If you find yourself back in LA, please reach out. I can show you some things.
A simple solution for the screen shutting off is enable developer options (tap build number in "about phone" till it turns them on) then set "do not sleep while charging" and connect a power bank
Did you collect some soil and take it with you to record a clearer spectrum at home? The Cs peak protrudes only very weakly from the spectrum. Try the difference between linear and logarithmic representation. You can save the spectrum in the library and export it from there as an XML file. Would you please provide this online?
Maybe you are interested in tips etc. for the RC, then take a look at the geigerzaehlerforum (mostly in german). We have been supporting the device since it was launched in early 2021.
I did collect some soil but I didn’t get deep enough into that rock crack. So I need to go back out there and take a better sample.
@@RadioactiveDrewIt is possible to determine specific activity in becquerels of the soil if you choose the right sample container (only for Cs137). Look in the 'Activity' tab in the app. I also determined the activity of dried and ground mushrooms.
F1.2 is fun..great content
It is a lot of fun. The auto focus is very helpful.
Wow cool just glad we lived so far East. Wonder why they kept testing after initial detection of fall out....and it's effects.
I wonder how Treasure Island is looking these days?
We lived there back in the late 80s when everyone was at a slow cook while living over a radioactive landfill.
I think the 89 earthquake fluffed the sheets.
I want to go back out there and check it…also Hunters Point.