Is all Wild Turkey and Russell's REALLY the Same Mashbill? - BRT 182
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Many may find it surprising that a brand as historic as Wild Turkey that is so largely distributed would only have a couple mashbills. But the question is, do ALL of the bourbons that Wild Turkey and Russell's offer really come from just one bourbon mashbill?
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Wild turkey is so underrated
Maybe the most underrated!
@@BourbonRealTalk yeah. People are so caught up in Buffalo trace (overrated). That they overlook what's actually better.
@@dronepocket325 one of my friends work for compari (might be spelling that wrong). I get to try everything. I never considered before. Now I buy all of their stuff.
Wild Turkey is my “everyday” bourbon. Their mash bill does it for me. Very underrated bourbon company.
@@Theblackdahlia1 it is phenomenal. I like it better than Buffalo trace
I still can't believe how available and reasonably priced that Russell's 10-year is. It is a staple in my home bar.
So good!
Russell’s Reserve 10 year has my vote for best value in whiskey. Continually thumps pricier juice in blinds…and makes a tremendous old fashioned! Cheers folks.
@@murfdizzle4shizzle Have you ever had any of the SiB or special releases from Russell's like 13, 1998, 2003? Do you think the flavor quality is worth the extra money.
Another great video! This video just shows that people don't understand how the barrel itself and aging affects whiskey, and let's just admit it, Jimmy And Eddie Russell are literally the GOATS, when it comes to distilling in the USA
For sure. I have not met Jimmy, but I did a pick with Eddie once. I was grateful to have the chance to meet him.
Rare Breed is a blend of 6/8/12 year Bourbons and is IMO, the best value in Bourbon. It beats out most Bourbons that are 2-3 times the price. Cheers guys!
It is solid.
Agreed. My brother and i just did a blind the other day and rare breed was #1 or 2. It beat out a few bottles more expensive and higher rated. I always thought WT was crap because i always seen homeless people drinking 101, but the rare breed is fantastic
I'd love to know what the ratio is on that blend. The 12 year really transforms it, to me.
My top favorite channel that breaks down and summarizes bourbons by distillery. Thanks guys
Glad you enjoy it!
Sorry for your loss. Joining the “Real Talk” community. Love you guys… and the show. God bless.
Thank you for the condolences! Glad to have you as part of the community.
I live in Kenturkeyland, close enough to the Old Grand Dad and Buffalo Trace distilleries to sometimes smell them. For 20 to 40 dollars for 750 ml, I am a wild knob (grin). For $60 maybe the Woodford Reserve Double Oaked, or Makers Mark 46 that my wife grew up near.
All solid pours! Thanks for watching.
Big fan of Wild Turkey! Great flavors. Great value. Hard to beat!
Couldn't agree more!
I'm new to straight Bourbons, Having been a drinker of Jack Daniels for a few years, Now my favorite is Wild turkey 101. I think this is one of the best Whiskey I have ever had. I will try more Bourbons from Wild Turkey and others on my future journeys. Life is Good!
Welcome to the bourbon journey!
I passed on a Russells Rye SIB because I hadn't opened the 6yr. But now that I have and love it I'm kicking myself for passing.
I am not sure I have ever had one. I would be kicking myself too.
I always come away feeling better after listening to you guys
I am glad to hear this!
Very informative video. WT 101 is the best value on the market, IMO. Love the Rare Breed and Russell Single Barrel, too.
Thank you for watching!
I started drinking Wild Turkey 101 when they put 8-yr-old on the label. Back during the 2000's they stopped that. It was my understanding that they were selling all the 8yr-old in Japan. I want it back in the USA.
They have maintained age statements in Japan while dropping them in the US. With demand being so high they likely won't bring back the age statement in the US anytime soon. They want the flexibility to through some younger bourbon in the batch if they need to do so to keep supply flowing.
Kentucky spirt very underrated- it is min of 8 years but some are 9-10 years old. It still occurs that a single barrel selected for a Russels Reserve pick has a proof under 110 -so they bottle them as Kentucky Sprit - I have one from Camp Nelson C (CNC)- excellent!
I have one of those two. Picked it with Eddie. It was right at 110, but he said after filtering for the bottling line it would drop below 110, so if we picked it we would have to do it as a Kentucky Spirit. It turned out great.
I love y’all lol. No disclaimer needed for me
Thank you! Just trying to avoid all the comments about duty only releases and such.
Wild Turkey 101 is always on my bar,along with WT Rare Breed.Great show,enjoy your channel so much you guys always do great reviews keep it up love you guys
Thank you so much!
I love my Turkey Products. Russell's is my base product line. On the other hand, Knob Creek is also my Favorite line, but from Beam. I bounce back and forth between these two, and mix a lot of others in. I'm a Turkey Knob, I guess.
Wes and I both could claim that title too!
Great video!! Keep up the great job!
Thank you! Will do!
Big fan of you guys. Quality content and seem like damn nice guys. Cheers 🥃
Thank you! We try 😀
You guys are representing the workin’ man..We need ya…..!
We try
One of your best videos. Very informative and well presented.
So glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for the support!
Very nice conversation!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This was great! Big fan of WT/RR. Glad to get Rare Breed at 42ish but standard RR SiB around 60 for me in WI.
Still waiting to get my hands on the RR13!
Great content, cheers!
Me too, but I am feeling lucky and suspect I will find one soon!
Russel's red label is great, store picks better, finding this in my state -ID around 60-65 $. Rare breed is so good, cheers...
I love them all. Thanks for watching!
interesting to note these two brands are the same mash bills. Thank you!
They are!
Wild Turkey 101 and Rare Breed, always on the shelf at MSRP, so always on my shelf at home. Value for money.
Both are solid pours and a good price point.
Fantastic episode on one of my favorite distilleries. Can't go wrong with any of those bottles. Cheers guys.
Glad you enjoyed it
Dang, haters? Really? what's to hate? I think you guys are awesome and put out GREAT bourbon content, and I Thank You. To "heck" with the haters. Pay them no never mind.
We get hate for all kinds of reasons. Sometimes I make a mistake and everyone comes to comment about it. Some of the time people are just trying to find something they disagree with so they can argue. We try to please as many people as possible, but we understand keeping everyone happy isn't possible.
Awesome Job Guys! Thank You.
Our pleasure!
I have always wondered this too. I love some Rare Breed. Have a few Masters Keep bottles too…
It is interesting they make all those skus with two mash bills.
So helpful, love these breakdowns 🥃🤘🏽👊🏽
Glad you like them!
Evan Willams BIB also a fantastic value for a great bourbon. Would you do a similar episode with all Heaven Hill products?
It is in the plan to do all the major distilleries. So far we have done Buffalo Trace and Wild Turkey.
WT American Honey is OUTSTANDING for a sore throat!
It doesn't taste bad. It is just not what most traditional bourbon drinkers are looking for.
Great video. WT is my favorite overall distillery, given my humble experience.
They are definitely underrated. They don't make a bad product.
Love WT, I have it good authority (my daughter can't keep a secret) that Santa is bringing me a Russell's SIB Rye. Must be on the nice list this year!
Very cool! I hope you love it!
I would say that Wild Turkey is my favorite distillery, great quality and value!
It would be hard to argue that they didn't have the highest quality price ratio. Cheers!
Well done, guys! Really like your videos. Cheers from Sweden! 🇸🇪
Thank you for the support from Sweden! It's great to know that our videos are reaching whiskey enthusiasts from all around the world. Do you have a favorite whiskey from Sweden or another country that you would recommend trying?
@@BourbonRealTalk I am actually a bourbon guy. But there are about 10 maltwhisky distilleries around in Sweden. I like High Coast Distillery in the northern part of Sweden. If you like sherried whiskies I recommend High Coast Berg. Cheers!
Great station and great review. I absolutely agree that this bourbon is highly underrated, especially given it’s age statement and price. Hoping it stays that way so it is still obtainable.
Thanks for watching!
Russell’s single barrel rye is great also!
I agree and think it doesn't get enough love.
woodmans in wisconsin has russells 10 year on sale for like 20 sometimes
Dang! That would be a good deal!
WTKS is a truly Fantastic Bourbon. I'm surprised it doesn't get the hype it much deserves
The quality price ratio is not as high as rare breed or russel's. I think that is why.
Dude said "Gobble gobble." lol
We get a little silly sometimes.
Love to try the RR13. Walked into a store here locally and seen a bottle on the top shelf as soon as I walked through the door and like ran to see what they wanted…..I slowly walked away when I seen the 450 dollar price tag.
Makes me sad!
@@BourbonRealTalk it does me to. You have people like me that want to try new things but can’t afford the price’s because stores want to charge to much for stuff
WT 13 is awesome stuff! I like it because it’s not the “typical” turkey taste for me.
Father and Son? If so, it is a little too oaky for me.
Another great video! Thanks for the background and personal notes on each of WT bottles!
Our pleasure!
Love me some WT, that 101 is hard to beat.
Cheers!
Always appreciate these videos. Beats the usual Advent Calendar tasting.
Glad you like them!
We love you, Wes, just not that Yankees cap.
He is a loyal fan from when he was a kid. Gotta respect staying loyal living in TX.
Couldn’t have been a Bottled in Bond if it was 86 proof…Just sayin’.But you guys are my new favorite reviewers..BIB is always At least 100 proof.
There were two 17 year WT Master's Keep releases. One was 86 proof and the second was BiB.
Love the Yankees cap!
Wes is the most southern man I know, but he loves the yankees!
I am loving the content but struggling with the NY hat.
Wes loves the Yankees...I don't watch sports.
Ok boys a tad disappointed
You had the father and son on the bar but failed to talk about it (unless I missed it).
I only mention that as I was fortunate enough to obtain one from a friend traveling through Australia.
I've not yet cracked it but was hoping to hear your opinion on it...
This was meant to go over their shelf available SKUs. It is not available in the US, so we left it out. For me it has too much barrel char character. It is not to my liking. Not terrible, but just over oaked for me.
@BourbonRealTalk ok thank you for the reply
Appreciate the podcast, you have one of the best ones out there by far.
I swear there’s a video of the guys sourcing Kentucky spirit. Look for it in wild Turkey distillery tour
Thank you for the tip, I'll check out that Wild Turkey distillery tour video. It's always interesting to learn more about the sourcing and production of bourbons. Have you been on any distillery tours before?
I’m so pissed I never tried the Kentucky Spirit..Jesus man I am sorry about your brother. I watched the whole cast…and I only saw this recently..So much better than some of the other “snobbery “that goes with bourbon and eventually makes it unattainable for the regular guy. You guys are definitely cool. Thank you man.
So glad you enjoy it. Whiskey is for bringing people together IMO, so that is what we preach on the podcast.
Try the Alberta premieum cask strength 100% rye it might change your mind about rye
I don't need convincing. I love rye. Wes is the one is is suspect about rye.
@Bourbon Real Talk show him the way haha.
Love Rare breed and 101. Starting to get into Rye a bit. I really don't like Long Branch. I know Russels is the same mash bill. I don't care for the flavor as mutch.
Interesting! Have you identified the flavor you are tasting that does not appeal to you?
Mesquite, I really don't care for that flavor in bourbon.
@@donaldheine6243 That is fair.
Buffalo trace is allocation. Crap is quite annoying. It’s a mediocre bourbon my best. Thank you for pointing that out.
BT is one of my favorite distilleries. They make most of my top 5 whiskies, but I will admit that their bottom shelf products being allocated is annoying and not attributable to flavor quality.
I regularly see 101 sub $20 in the Seattle area. If nobody has it on sale, wait a week. Somebody is bound to have it discounted.
With state taxes that is a steal!
@@BourbonRealTalk - that's before tax. I wish it was after tax.
Hello everyone, may anyone who have tasted both the wild turkey father and son 13 yrs and the export only wild turkey 12 yrs with purple gift box share which one is better in general though the abv and age are not the same(if you can only buy one of them given the prices are the same/similar). As money and spirit allowance is limited when we hunt limited bourbon, tasting experience and inform sharing between bourbon lovers will help a lot for sure. Thanks very much !!!
I have both bottles open. The 13 year is way over oaked for my palate. Lots of barrel char flavor with little fruit and caramel notes to balance it out. The 12 is much better IMO.
@@BourbonRealTalk I see, your feedback means a lot to me, then the 12 yrs one sounds a much better choice . Thanks for the quick response and keep your good work for producing more useful and interesting videos for all the bourbon lovers!
@@wilsonwilson7533 You're welcome! We'll do our best 🙂
In the U.K. proof is not on any distilled product because degrees proof by law was deemed 57%.I am elderly and remember when 40% ABV Scotch had 70 degrees proof on the bottle.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge! It's interesting to see how things have changed over the years. Do you prefer the current system or the old one with degrees proof on the bottle?
@@BourbonRealTalkI prefer abv%
Oh man! Russells reserve single barrel, especially store pics, make me weak in the knees.
They are good.
Hard, very hard, to beat 101.
Couldn't agree more!
Rare breed is a blend of 6, 8, and 12 year old bourbon.
Good to know.
I got 101 wt rye for 9.99 cvs here in ky
Damn! That is a great price! I wonder if it was mismarked?
Great video
Thanks!
The reason a new distillery was built is because their's was destroyed by a fire that burned for days
Good point, but I think the distillery operations were unaffected. It was just barrel aging warehouses that burned.
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WT12 is so good too.
I have not tried it yet, but I am keeping an eye out.
Can’t get a RR SiB store pick in my area but have really wanted one. I got a buddy who is willing to ship me two from a neighboring state and good store for around 70-73 bucks a piece shipped. Good deal? Pricing on these seems a bit all over the place.
Thanks for your comment! It's always tough to determine the value of a product, especially when it comes to whiskey. Prices can definitely vary depending on location and availability. If you feel like $70-73 per bottle is a fair price, and you really want to try the store pick, then it might be worth it. Have you tried looking for any other store picks in your area or online?
Also, don't forget to enjoy the whiskey responsibly! Cheers.
Slightly off subject, but is cask strength and barrel proof the same thing?
Yes
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I love em' all!
They really don't make a bad product.
So the msrp of a Russles sb at 110 proof is $48, but a Kentucky Spirit sb at 101 is $65? What's the math on this? I know the KS is at least 8 years and a Russle's can be less i guess, but a $20 difference?
WTKS is the worst value that WT offers. In their defense the bottling and labeling cost of a single barrel is much higher, and KS used to be in a much more ornate bottle, so that would account for some of the price difference. I suspect they targeted pricing around Blanton's SiB, and that is why that one SKU is relatively expensive when you look at the rest of their core lineup.
You definitely don’t have to take the bridge to get there
I just remember the tour guide making a big deal about the unique structure of the bridge.
I'll take wild turkey over Buffalo trace any day. Don't let the hype beasts know
WT has some very nice offerings that are much easier to find.
You skipped the 101 12 year
This was recorded in August. It wasn't on the website yet.
I would be perfectly happy if the Wild Turkey / Russell’s Reserve line was all that was available, except Longbranch, that is just terrible. I’d rather see a more available bonded variety take its place
Thanks for sharing your opinion. Do you have any specific bonded whiskey that you would like to recommend?
@@BourbonRealTalk There are some new picks I want to try before I make any suggestions. I’ll follow up
@@BourbonRealTalk A noob like me has very little to offer an expert such as yourself, but for anyone reading this, of the five bonded bourbons I’ve been savoring…Old Grand Dad, Heaven Hill and Jack Daniel’s are all “Top of Mind” (Bonus phrase of 2023). For a frame of reference, I tend to favor offerings from the lines of Elijah Craig, Wild Turkey, Russell’s Reserve and Abe Bowman. Jack Daniel’s Bonded came in as a big surprise. It drinks like the most delicate pastry dessert, seriously decadent. Old Grand Dad is a solid staple that I will forever respect and have on my shelf. Heaven Hill’s BiB is literally a slightly different version of Elijah Craig’s Small Batch. That said, I’m going to do a side by side of the HHBiB and ECSB…right now. Stay tuned for more
@@BourbonRealTalk Alright, so Heaven Hill BiB and ECSB are different but they’re not too far off from each other. Heaven Hill is clearly more up front, Elijah Craig Small Batch has something fuller I cannot identify but they’re close.
@@lynnchpin Super interesting. HH BiB is not easy to get here in Texas, but someone gave me a bottle and I really enjoy it!
Prefer 101 over longbranch
I do too.
Looking at my two different RR Single Barrels, how does one tell the dates? Based on the hidden code on the back etched when it's bottled?
On the back label of the bottles of Russell's Single Barrel Select it says Distilled: Date, Dumped: Date, Bottled: Date, Barrel #:, Warehouse:, and Floor:. It may not have this information on the regular single barrel that is not a "select".
@@BourbonRealTalk OK, I thought it might be on the select bottles. I'll be on the lookout for those, I bet they're really good.
Man the Yankees hat… can you go back to a cowboy hat or a BRT hat. Yankees hat = bad memories from 80’s Royals Vs Yankees playoff matchups. 😂
It is crazy, but even though Wes is a southern as a person could be he loves the Yankees.
We all make bad choices in life, lol! Im really just jealous my Royals aren’t relevant from year to year. 👍
@@ThelifeofKingfish I have no dog in this hunt😂
LOVE YOU TOO MAN...in a non gay way...lol
Thanks you! I love it when viewers see it back!
12👍
Cheers!
longbranch falls short.
I thought that when it first came out, but tried it again later and felt like I had judged it too harshly. It still is a little too much compared to their other offerings, but I don't think it is bad.
Confirmed yesterday... Longbranch no longer has Matthew mcconaughey name on bottle. (Good)
Maybe the price can come down now 😂
Hmmm? I wonder why
You guys rock.
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Huge Turkey fan here! Great video and amazing shirt, “Rutledge, Russell ‘24”. Where can someone buy one of those?
T-Shirt Link:
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Really appreciate these two shows. Very beneficial & informative. Thanks… love the show! -WT Fan.
Thanks for watching!
Seeing this and seeing that WT Father and Son made me wonder if ya'll could do an expanded video on duty free Bourbons like WT 101 12 year. I have friends and family that do a lot of cruises and travelling for work and never really know what to tell them to look for and where.
Not a bad idea. It would take a lot of research because I don't know what is out there.
Big fan of Rare Breed It’s one of the few bourbons for me that stay on the tongue 15-20 seconds after Great thing is it’s easy to obtain at a decent price
Solid pour every time I have had it!
Love this because recently I've started to slide toward ryes over bourbon. It's not that I'll turn down a nice bourbon, but ryes are different and I've tasted a lot of different bourbons over the years. Sometimes it's just time for a change, and maybe this is it. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Oh also, on some other You Tube bourbon shows, Wild Turkey 101 has won some blind taste tests against some heavy hitters, so yes, it is the best value on the market.
I have gone through at least 2 rye "phases" where I was drinking mostly rye over bourbon. It happens in a whiskey lover's journey.
…because they are delicious! 😅I love Rye whiskey. I have a bunch, but I will say that Rare Breed and the Russell’s Single Barrel are two of my favorites. Redwood Empire Emerald Giant is a nice sipper for $35, and if you have a few extra bucks…you can’t go wrong with some Willett Family Reserve. Hope you enjoy exploring something new. There are some delicious treats in the rye whiskey family. Let us know what you think. Cheers.
Great info on this brand! Russell’s single barrel is one of my top pours! The 13 yr is awesome! Rare Breed is just delicious:) and Rare Breed Rye is top notch!
I agree on all points. The one thing that surprises me is that I love Russell's 13 but do not enjoy the WT Father and Son 13 year. Barrel selection is a thing.
bro with the short white beard, can you confirm you practice 3 dry days a week, no greater than 14 oz a week or 15, 30, 45 ml pours at a time to allow your liver to process an ounce-.five or so every 30-45 mins, you know evidence of why moderation is key/important
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I can't imagine anyone hating this channel 😇
Some days my stomach is in knots for hours because of the hateful things people say. I am learning that it is part of the process. Thank you for the support.
Is this video just you guys reading WT ad copy? Where's the "analysis" promised?
There is only one bourbon mash bill, so the analysis is in understanding the different aging time, proofing, and batching/single barrels. Is there some other information We could have shared that we didn't?
Does the age statement have to be on the label?
Age statements are option in the US if the age is over 4 years.
@@BourbonRealTalk So, just so I understand...if the age is under 4 years, it HAS to be noted on the label?
@@geecee1990 If it is labelled as whiskey
You might be getting some hate, but some humility could also go a long way. The video title was some hard click bait, and this played out more like browsing drizly.
I'd even give you props if the few points you made on mash bill or malted barley were on point. Good luck with what you're doing and any future research you might do, but you might have discouraged a lot of potential subscribers with this one.
Thank you for the feedback.
I dont see it as click bait
To each their own. WT typically runs two mash bills, and this video didn't get much into the mashbill, mashing, etc.
Could have even discussed history of the Russell's, the different rickhouses, kentucky spirit vs Russell's etc.
@@pablov9212 I found the video to be one of the best, most informative out there on Wild Turkey/RR. Your very specific talking point requests that they missed as if they were supposed to cater the content specifically to predicting your personal preferences seems a bit unrealistic. Perhaps you should make your own Wild Turkey video so you can include everything you want on the subject.
Yeesh @@MichaelC_22, a lot of latent aggression to unpack there.
I simply gave a couple of examples of how the content could have related to the title, which was my perspective on calling it click bait. It wasn't meant to be an exhaustive list. I'd have had nothing to say if they called it a guide to the wild turkey and Russell's line up.
To their credit, the creators responded gracefully, and like I said, I wish them luck. On the other hand, i have no idea why you're all bunched up about it.