I was blessed to see them in 74, im sure god was grooving there in the audience too. It was religious experience for me. TY for upload - gave me shivers and tears.
Same here. I remember see the Mahavishnu Orchestra at Winterland in San Francisco as the atmosphere seemed like it was a war between good and evil. All the good was coming from the stage and the evil didn't like it much .....
I love how the ladies keep singing the lovely "blessed are the pure in heart" against the INSANE improvisation between the trumpets, guitar and violin...you've really got to give McLaughlin credit for sticking his neck WAY OUT THERE to create this music and perform it live with an 11 piece band...incredible talent from everyone.
I believe that Gayle Moran had a real hard time hearing her voice through the monitors on stage. What a challenge it would be to try and hit every note on pitch with all those other notes flying around the stage from all the musicians !
@@jimdep6542 I'm sure that's true, but she sounds pretty much on pitch to me. I would love to hear/read an extended interview with her about her recollections of the whole MO 2 experience. Her singing on Smile of The Beyond melts my heart every time I hear it. Her husband Chick loved it too.
@@MrGuitar1458 I agree. I've always loved her voice on Smile of the Beyond too...and the entire song, the dynamics, the melody, especially the lyrics. I think she would have been able to use more vocal and mic technique if she didn't have to compete with the live band's volume and fills during the verses. It's not a criticism of her at all. It's almost like her singing on stage came secondary to the other musicians fill's and I wish they'd laid back a bit. I'd be thrilled if she ever gave an interview of her experiences with the MO 2.
@@jimdep6542 roger all of that. We must also remember that sound reinforcement in the mid-70's was not what it is today, the gear and the expertise of audio personnel being substandard by our modern parameters. Under what must've been difficult conditions, Gayle did an amazing job.
@@MrGuitar1458 Exactly.....well in current times, some jerk audio tech might try to sneak an auto-tune on her voice . By no means I'm I suggesting she needed one. I can't stand the sound of those things, but these days they've gone overboard with them. HA........well I digress. Is there an interview some where, that you know of, that Chick mentioned Gayle singing " Smile of the Beyond" ?
So beautifully psychedelic, like hearing the most inspiring sermon at church you've ever heard, on the cleanest acid, while watching a sunset. There is definitely something supernatural about this performance (as are most Mahavishnu performances).
The audio problems in the beginning are pretty frustrating especially given that this *HAS* to be the best version of Sanctuary EVER. And why the hell they turn Jean Luc Ponty down in the mix I will NEVER understand.. but still.. damn good.
Proud to say I watched the entire thing. Prabhuji Narada went to war with the drums. I can't give medical advice but anyone with epilepsy should be cautious watching that scene. The intergalactic war of the viloin and guitar was epic, on the level of Shiva Vs. Jalandhara. Hare Krishna!
I’ve seen Ponty 8 times in concert since MO 1975 Tucson Arizona. His intonation is absolutely perfect..🙏🏼 And I mean perfect 🤍 When you consider the incredible audio demands of his environment, that is a stellar accomplishment 🌹
@@wadsmitter511 Not knocking Mr.Waldens playing he's an exceptional drummer but when Billy play with them it was just on another spiritual level with the power I saw them twice & still etched in my mind merry Christmas to you and family👊
Is it just me but is Narada Michael Walden rocking this bad upward? Oh he's heavy hitting. He ain't playing, he's creating and directing. That drummer is sum. He's high percentage sound in this group.
Nice to see Gayle recovered from the cold virus that was going round the tour bus on the European tour that made her miss the Stockholm gig. Shame she din't wear sunscreen in time for this when she was skiing during her recovery. Supertb drum solo and Sanctuary is lovely. Great guitar/violin interplay in 'Dawn' . We all came to that show wondering who these ‘new guys’ were. I think we left knowing they were the Mahavishnu Orchestra. Yup.
Remember when they'd light the incense from the stage a few minutes before they'd start the show when John would ask for a moment of silence ? I think it was Strawberry scented, but I'm not sure. How exciting that was !
John McLaughlin (Guitar) Jean Luc Ponty (Violin Soloist) Gayle Moran (Keyboards, vocals) Narada Michael Walden (Drums) Ralph Armstrong (Bass) Steve Kindler (1 st Violin) Carol Shive (2nd Violin and backing vocals)) Marsha Westbrook (Viola and backing vocals) Phillip Hirsch (Cello) Bob Knapp (Flute, percussion) Steve Frankovitch (Horns) some corrections
Thanks for correcting the instrument played by Marsha Westbrook -- the wrong "alto saxophone" comes from misinterpreting the French word 'alto' for viola.
I'm blessed to have seen this Mahavishnu lineup 2x, beginning in May of 1974 at Winterland, with Carlos Santana coming out for an encore of A Love Supreme. I was totally blown away. I saw them again at the San Jose Civic a year or so later with Jeff Beck. There were a few personel changes, smaller in number but the core of the group was there, with Narada on drums, Ralphe on bass and Jean Luc. The Winterland show was magic, and that has much to do with the venue. What a great time to be alive and see great bands ! Between Santana with the "Lotus" band lineup and Mahavishu, I've had plenty of inspiration to power my music career for the next few decades.
I also saw the Apocalypse tour and the Visions of the Emerald Beyond tour. Apocalypse was stunning and majestic and otherworldy. The Emerald Beyond Tour (opening for Jeff Beck on Beck's Blow By Blow tour) however, was a different thing. Ponty had bailed and Steve Kindler couldn't be JLP no matter how hard he tried. It sucked. I love the album and had hoped for a similar experience as I had at Santa Monica Civic Auditorium on Jun 1, 1974 on the Apocalypse tour...but it was not to be. The 1974 performance remains one of the most majestic mind bending pieces of music I've ever experienced...I've attended a LOT of great concerts, but this one was like nothing else I've ever attended. Jeff Beck was insane that night at the Shrine Auditorium on May 30, 1975, when the crippled Mahavishnu Orchestra opened for him. A friend recorded Beck and years later I contacted two other people who had done the same. I made it a project, to combine the three recordings in to one true stereo version. Took some time to complete the project by hand, aka manually with the help of Cool Edit Pro. Thank god for pitch and tempo tools! Shrine has notoriously bad acoustics, but when all was said and done it became a lot more listenable...and it is clearly one of Jeff Beck's finest performances. I finished the project on May 30, 2005, exactly 30 years to the day and proceeded to share it with members of the Jeff Beck Appreciation Society on Yahoo Groups. John and Jeff's encore was "Diamond Dust" and Stanley Clarke's song "Power". I've never heard other dates with Jeff and Johnny jamming, only May 30th. I have several complete sets from the Blow By Blow tour, but none other than mine with the encore. Too bad...I'd love to hear more!
I echo your sentiments about MO on the Beck tour. Probably saw them within a few days of you in San Francisco. They sucked, and played for just 30 minutes. Saw them in November '74. Went with a guitarist friend who saw them on the tour you did, six months earlier. By November, the band toured the US, Europe, then back to the US. By that time, they were absolutely on fire! My friend said there was no comparison. John & Jean-Luc hit a new level together, where their eyes and facial expressions were locked together. It was absolutely life altering, and still very much affects me to this day - which happens to be John's 82nd birthday. Can't believe 50 years will have passed this November. I made sure all my friends came to the next tour. It was a huge let down. People were walking out. @@ultomatt
Steve Kindler was part of this group in the backing violins, but he really shows his stuff on Jan Hammer Group's "Oh Yeah?" album ("Red and Orange" and "Twenty One," among others).
Your right he is very good on that album and Tony Smith is exceptional to.Great album and not talked about enough.Had it since day 1 and still love it.
Saw this band after having seen the original lineup two years earlier. It's the '72 version that sticks in my memory to this day. This version's...okay, much as I love Jean Luc and Neurotic Mike W, but the Cobham/Hammer/Goodman/Laird group were from another galaxy.
lt was almost FALSE ADVERTlSlNG to call THlS line-up the M0. Just call it M0 ll, duh. JM wanted to have it both ways: keep the ticket sales and buzz from THE real M0, but w more subservant musicians. Dltto other bands, like Van Hagar. When my bands mutate, l alter then name to explain this to consumers. H0W MANY young music fans will hear 0f a great band called PlNk FL0YD... and l00k them up and hear The Division Bell FlRST and say "yuck!" For me, M0 ll is N0T the M0 at all. VERY VERY different beast. Not remotely as good.
In 1974, John called this 'the real Mahavishnu Orchestra'. He was playing to a rock audience who expected continuity and some old stuff when they saw him live - instead, he played the whole of the 'Apocalypse' LP live (with 'Dawn' from 'Inner Mounting Flame' as encore). John was making his own musical path - and the rock crowd's expectation be damned.
Thank you very very very much for posting this. The audio levels off by 2:20 and is good after that. Includes: Sanctuary (Birds Of Fire) 0:00 - 12:21, Smile Of The Beyond (Apocalypse) 12:38 - 37:02, and Dawn (The Inner Mounting Flame) - 37:22 - 53:20.
Thanks a million for posting this programme. I've been looking for it ever since I saw it on TV back in 74. I had never seen such good music so intelligently captured on video. Mc Laughlin is a genius and so is Jean Christophe Averty (I'm sure they are both fully aware of this fact)
Jean Luc Ponty was actually the first chice for Mahavishnu 1, but he was busy. And they called on Tony Levin for the bass spot, but he thought it was "Murry Vishnu's Orchestra", a wedding band or something. Can't help but wonder if some slightly older, seasoned vets could've lasted longer.
Sound was real rough the first two minutes but this is the pure shit. For my money, this version of Mahavishnu is just as worthy as the first version. For the vibe they created. Narada gave Billy a run for his money on the drums.
Yeah. I really loved Ralphe's bass playing too. A fretless Precision and that's the first time I'd ever heard one. .. and a couples years earlier than I'd ever heard of Jaco. How could a guy that young be that good ! He made the bass breathe with life. Billy played drums with tremendous power, and Walden was a finesse guy, but I loved Narada's amazing technique and his whole stage persona. I felt like all these guys were from outer space. I still want that T-shirt Michael was wearing.
I mean, really, this music was from another world. Who is making this kind of kind of music anymore…. Narada was from another world during this time… And Gayle Moran was intrinsic to MO2. Spectacular footage from another time in music
Inner Mounting Flame’s ..drum work by..Narada Michael Walden..is considered to be a landmark of jazz-rock drumming..and so it is...this solo is also fantastic.Thanks for Posting.
Billy Cobham is drummer on IMF, outstanding beyond compare to nMW who is more “pyrotechnics” than feel and tension and loads of other stuff but still a mean machine. Pls learn to avoid misinforming.
How many bits of applause did NMWs one solo generate? Five? It's a propos and the French are intense music fans. I would say the most sophisticated for prog, concept, or Bartok, Webern, Faure - Brazilian players flock to Paris, chromaticism is sought after, appreciated. What's surprising to me how the even funkier and wilder proceedings of MO 1975 in Vienna are well-received, surely there could not be a colder crowd, by reputation, let alone you face an element of Strauss Beethoven or Mozart loyalty; JM for a minute brings that crowd a Debussy, possibly Mahler, flavour, in Power of Love, but otherwise the conservatory traditions are laid waste. A psychedelic show, that one - off the chain. No worry, though - ecstasy is the product, or, remnant.
Layla! Felt like he was searching to place a heavy rock riff in his comp, and throws in Layla.. Worth putting up with the lousy editing, sound, and comparisons of Maha I vs II to hear several moments of brilliance in this.
+Oneness100 I dunno - was there space for Jan's Moog solos? Having said that, Jerry's scuzzy violin might have nicely grubbed up the soundstage on what often could sound rather smooth - then again, you probably know better. Didn't you see the original line-up?
Mark supeotmail.co.ukrbrain I've seen MO through probably every single incarnation. The original, the 2nd, with and without JLP, and Gayle Moran, I saw them when they replaced them with Steve Kindler (formally part of the string section and he moved up to main solo violin), and Stu Goldberg. Jerry Goodman had a much more grittier tone as he was far more experienced in blues/rock which gave him more edge to what he did, JLP was more smooth and his violin tone was very processed whereas Jerry's was had a more natural violin tone with various effects like going through a Leslie, amp distortion, and maybe some other toys. I preferred the grittier sound of Jerry, his was more down to earth, plus i think he was a more intense player. JLP's solos get kinda old and they tend to sound the same regardless of what song is being played. I've seen JLP with his own band several times as well.
+Oneness100 I kind of agree about Jerry - he was more 'out there' than JLP and he had a great raunchy sound - I just imagine it might have clashed with the smoothness of the string quartet, who apparently had enough trouble being heard as it was. I just can't 'hear' him on 'Apocalypse' - nor Jan, who didn't like 'Vision Is A Naked Sword' when MO1 rehearsed it. BTW it would be nice to hear any memories you have of seeing MO live.
Mark supeotmail.co.ukrbrain Jan can play classical music, so he could adapt. It's just the music the original MO was doing was raw and I think that's what you're thinking. Have you heard Jerry's solo albums? He's great on those and he has a different sound than with MO. It's all about playing what the music dictates and the producers are going to give him the constraints. If you listen to the acoustic songs on IMF or BOF, he's much more reserved compared to the other material. Right?
24:55 When I x2 video speed. It looks like it's became 4k video And Narada looks like Bobby Farrell (Boney M) in this one. And the way he rolling the toms remind me of Boney M - Rasputin too 🙂
Marsha Westbrook plays Viola unless she can play Alto sax also.Russel Tubbs or the African American lady plays Alto Sax.Gayle Moran is also on lead vocals & mostly all the strings & brass harmonize also.
andrew gillis After a decade of supercomputer analysis, NASA supercompters finally decoded the first message we have received from extraterrestrial intelligence who found the music disks on our Voyager probes. The message says: SEND MORE CHUCK BERRY
+andrew gillis this was on TV the other day, also available as CD: The Strat Pack: Live in Concert is a film of a September 24, 2004, concert featuring Joe Walsh, Gary Moore, Brian May (playing the Sunburst Stratocaster, in the opening set, rather than his signature guitar Red Special ), David Gilmour, Mike Rutherford and many more, marking the 50th Anniversary of the Fender Stratocaster guitar. The film was released in 2005. btw, after dropping out of college to pursue a music opportunity, Brian May finally went back and got his PhD in astrophysics, and is also chancellor of a university in England. So it's never too late to finish school.
Logo a primeira música vem com a legenda errada. "Santurry" em vez de Sanctuary. Eu sou colecionador e tenho todos os discos da Mahavishnu e de John McLaughlin Por muitas vezes prefiro ouvir os discos do que ao vivo, mesmo sabendo que o impacto desta banda nos anos 70 foi enorme e a que colaboração de McLaughlin para a criação e desenvolvimento do estilo Fusion é incomparável.
Sorry...I'll have to say, "LESS cowbell" on this particular occasion...let Narada tell his own story...he is a definite phenom...and, while I'm at it...LESS dizzying camerawork, please and thank you...
Who plays the guitar accompaniment during JM's solo at 6:35?... or is it a loop?... in 1974 this is the first time I've seen this... correct me if I'm wrong
Walden would be more powerful if he used single strokes like Cobham did instead of using doubles to get his speed. Cobham was the perfect drummer for McLaughlins music. I loved Johns writing during this period though.
They are different people with different life experiences. Billy got this gig when he was in his late 20's, coming from a pretty strong rudimental background; Narada got this gig when he was 19. I think his playing on Emerald Beyond was a benchmark for guys like Mark Craney, Steve Smith and many others.
Holy Mucking Fit! Where have you BEEN all my life? Or rather, all of RUclips's life. This is a band that's tragically under-rated, because they're NOT Maha-One. Hey, neither am I, nor are you... or Ted Nugent or Alice Cooper... it's like the 80's Miles Davis bands with the freshest young pyros on guitar - Robben Ford, John Scofield, Mike Stern. no they're NOT "Bitches Brew" or "Kind of Blue"; merely one of the finest bands on the planet when the Improv God was smiling. If regurged 50's Miles is your cup o'T, there's all sort of pale imitations, start with that Marsalis Doosh. Oops sorry - B if it warn't for Topic Drift we might not have no drift atall....
yup agree and JM was on Brew, for that matter. same point/thing for Santana: how awesome is that 1975 & 76 lineup, w Birch or Chancler at drums? Coster & on bass David Brown, or Pablo Tellez? Sax, and a bunch of upright bass used in studio? The Borboletta & Festival LPs hang together incredibly well; the stage show we saw was an utter trip - hypnotizing, funky world music, songs making magic segues into new ones, & played by the happiest musicians I have ever seen emerge from a dressing room. Cat named Leon Patillo was a superb singer. Anyway - that was touring season number 7 for a band that made about 40 more - with fresh hit songs to play on at least 7 of these (later) tours. Version of band where Buddy Miles sang in the 80s would also have been one-of-a-kind, plainly a Santana band, out on the road, & wowing crowds.
I fucking hate this technique of blending two images . It says nothing , improves nothing . There's little enough footage of the Mahavishnu Orchestra and what you see here might as well be put out for the dustman
@@markrobinson1360 Yeah they did an Australian tour that year and I saw them at the Perth Concert Hall in Western Australia.Absolutely fabulous from memory and would be easily in my top 10 concerts and I've been to a lot of them over the years.Just remember it being very intense and powerful with that brass section and some strings and of course Jean-Luc Ponty was a total standout along with Mclaughlin of course.Amazingly Weather Report toured here also not long after and about as good as these guys in there own way.Fabulous and lucky enough to catch Jaco with this line up.
One more thing...as great a player as he is, I find McLaughlin's tone here harsh and ugly...it was much better in the studio, with reverb , better eq and stereo panning. Listen to virtually all of Visions of the Emerald Beyond and see if you don't agree...
The second incarnation of The Mahavishnu Orchestra was/is incredible.
'' when '' MILES '' tells you to start your own band ... you start your own band '' ....'' THE MAHAVISHNU ORCHESTRA '' ..! ...... '' GAME CHANGING ''
I was blessed to see them in 74, im sure god was grooving there in the audience too. It was religious experience for me. TY for upload - gave me shivers and tears.
Same here. I remember see the Mahavishnu Orchestra at Winterland in San Francisco as the atmosphere seemed like it was a war between good and evil. All the good was coming from the stage and the evil didn't like it much .....
I love how the ladies keep singing the lovely "blessed are the pure in heart" against the INSANE improvisation between the trumpets, guitar and violin...you've really got to give McLaughlin credit for sticking his neck WAY OUT THERE to create this music and perform it live with an 11 piece band...incredible talent from everyone.
I believe that Gayle Moran had a real hard time hearing her voice through the monitors on stage. What a challenge it would be to try and hit every note on pitch with all those other notes flying around the stage from all the musicians !
@@jimdep6542 I'm sure that's true, but she sounds pretty much on pitch to me. I would love to hear/read an extended interview with her about her recollections of the whole MO 2 experience. Her singing on Smile of The Beyond melts my heart every time I hear it. Her husband Chick loved it too.
@@MrGuitar1458 I agree. I've always loved her voice on Smile of the Beyond too...and the entire song, the dynamics, the melody, especially the lyrics. I think she would have been able to use more vocal and mic technique if she didn't have to compete with the live band's volume and fills during the verses. It's not a criticism of her at all. It's almost like her singing on stage came secondary to the other musicians fill's and I wish they'd laid back a bit. I'd be thrilled if she ever gave an interview of her experiences with the MO 2.
@@jimdep6542 roger all of that. We must also remember that sound reinforcement in the mid-70's was not what it is today, the gear and the expertise of audio personnel being substandard by our modern parameters. Under what must've been difficult conditions, Gayle did an amazing job.
@@MrGuitar1458 Exactly.....well in current times, some jerk audio tech might try to sneak an auto-tune on her voice . By no means I'm I suggesting she needed one.
I can't stand the sound of those things, but these days they've gone overboard with them. HA........well I digress. Is there an interview some where, that you know of, that Chick mentioned Gayle singing " Smile of the Beyond" ?
Young,fresh,powerful, NARADA !!
So beautifully psychedelic, like hearing the most inspiring sermon at church you've ever heard, on the cleanest acid, while watching a sunset. There is definitely something supernatural about this performance (as are most Mahavishnu performances).
The audio problems in the beginning are pretty frustrating especially given that this *HAS* to be the best version of Sanctuary EVER. And why the hell they turn Jean Luc Ponty down in the mix I will NEVER understand.. but still.. damn good.
Absolutely phenomenal! JLP's creativity is phenomenal. A Great Chapter in the Music History.
Proud to say I watched the entire thing. Prabhuji Narada went to war with the drums. I can't give medical advice but anyone with epilepsy should be cautious watching that scene. The intergalactic war of the viloin and guitar was epic, on the level of Shiva Vs. Jalandhara. Hare Krishna!
I’ve seen Ponty 8 times in concert since MO 1975 Tucson Arizona.
His intonation is absolutely perfect..🙏🏼
And I mean perfect 🤍
When you consider the incredible audio demands of his environment, that is a stellar accomplishment 🌹
My brother is on cymbals and trumpet in this video. Go MO2.
omg...who could dislike this!!! really great stuff...
*Narada Michael Walden* one of my favorite drummer of all times
Narada*
@@wadsmitter511 Your right, I didn’t saw the mess my autocorrect decided to do.
Edit: the good name.
Understand he's no Cobham.
@@davidgreen1504 No, and thankfully so. He's Narada Michael Walden. Two amazing, but different drummers!
@@wadsmitter511 Not knocking Mr.Waldens playing he's an exceptional drummer but when Billy play with them it was just on another spiritual level with the power I saw them twice & still etched in my mind merry Christmas to you and family👊
Holy sht. This is fucing brilliant
Is it just me but is Narada Michael Walden rocking this bad upward? Oh he's heavy hitting. He ain't playing, he's creating and directing. That drummer is sum. He's high percentage sound in this group.
Nice to see Gayle recovered from the cold virus that was going round the tour bus on the European tour that made her miss the Stockholm gig. Shame she din't wear sunscreen in time for this when she was skiing during her recovery.
Supertb drum solo and Sanctuary is lovely. Great guitar/violin interplay in 'Dawn' .
We all came to that show wondering who these ‘new guys’ were. I think we left knowing they were the Mahavishnu Orchestra.
Yup.
The 1972 version was the best mahavisnu
Remember when they'd light the incense from the stage a few minutes before they'd start the show when John would ask for a moment of silence ? I think it was Strawberry scented, but I'm not sure. How exciting that was !
Thanks for posting this, man!! I love the mahavishnu!
Me too, I’m like a moth to Mahavishnu flame.
Remarkable footage, thanks for posting.
Fantastic drum solo, Narada in his prime !
I had a pair of plastic sandals for the beach when I was a small child!😂
great after 30 years still my favourite music
Make that 43 years and you got it ;)
Is now 46 n counting ,: O
47…still breathing..still counting…still blessed!
John McLaughlin (Guitar)
Jean Luc Ponty (Violin Soloist)
Gayle Moran (Keyboards, vocals)
Narada Michael Walden (Drums)
Ralph Armstrong (Bass)
Steve Kindler (1 st Violin)
Carol Shive (2nd Violin and backing vocals))
Marsha Westbrook (Viola and backing vocals)
Phillip Hirsch (Cello)
Bob Knapp (Flute, percussion)
Steve Frankovitch (Horns)
some corrections
Thanks for correcting the instrument played by Marsha Westbrook -- the wrong "alto saxophone" comes from misinterpreting the French word 'alto' for viola.
I'm blessed to have seen this Mahavishnu lineup 2x, beginning in May of 1974 at Winterland, with Carlos Santana coming out for an encore of A Love Supreme. I was totally blown away. I saw them again at the San Jose Civic a year or so later with Jeff Beck. There were a few personel changes, smaller in number but the core of the group was there, with Narada on drums, Ralphe on bass and Jean Luc. The Winterland show was magic, and that has much to do with the venue. What a great time to be alive and see great bands !
Between Santana with the "Lotus" band lineup and Mahavishu, I've had plenty of inspiration to power my music career for the next few decades.
I also saw the Apocalypse tour and the Visions of the Emerald Beyond tour. Apocalypse was stunning and majestic and otherworldy. The Emerald Beyond Tour (opening for Jeff Beck on Beck's Blow By Blow tour) however, was a different thing. Ponty had bailed and Steve Kindler couldn't be JLP no matter how hard he tried. It sucked. I love the album and had hoped for a similar experience as I had at Santa Monica Civic Auditorium on Jun 1, 1974 on the Apocalypse tour...but it was not to be. The 1974 performance remains one of the most majestic mind bending pieces of music I've ever experienced...I've attended a LOT of great concerts, but this one was like nothing else I've ever attended.
Jeff Beck was insane that night at the Shrine Auditorium on May 30, 1975, when the crippled Mahavishnu Orchestra opened for him. A friend recorded Beck and years later I contacted two other people who had done the same. I made it a project, to combine the three recordings in to one true stereo version. Took some time to complete the project by hand, aka manually with the help of Cool Edit Pro. Thank god for pitch and tempo tools! Shrine has notoriously bad acoustics, but when all was said and done it became a lot more listenable...and it is clearly one of Jeff Beck's finest performances. I finished the project on May 30, 2005, exactly 30 years to the day and proceeded to share it with members of the Jeff Beck Appreciation Society on Yahoo Groups. John and Jeff's encore was "Diamond Dust" and Stanley Clarke's song "Power". I've never heard other dates with Jeff and Johnny jamming, only May 30th. I have several complete sets from the Blow By Blow tour, but none other than mine with the encore. Too bad...I'd love to hear more!
Very cool ! I'd love hear the finished product of your project.
Man I jealous, loved Lotus era Santana and of course MO!
I echo your sentiments about MO on the Beck tour. Probably saw them within a few days of you in San Francisco. They sucked, and played for just 30 minutes.
Saw them in November '74. Went with a guitarist friend who saw them on the tour you did, six months earlier. By November, the band toured the US, Europe, then back to the US. By that time, they were absolutely on fire! My friend said there was no comparison. John & Jean-Luc hit a new level together, where their eyes and facial expressions were locked together. It was absolutely life altering, and still very much affects me to this day - which happens to be John's 82nd birthday. Can't believe 50 years will have passed this November.
I made sure all my friends came to the next tour. It was a huge let down. People were walking out. @@ultomatt
I don’t have any words for this!
Nice to see the Rex Bogue guitar in action.
What's the story behind it?
Steve Kindler was part of this group in the backing violins, but he really shows his stuff on Jan Hammer Group's "Oh Yeah?" album ("Red and Orange" and "Twenty One," among others).
Your right he is very good on that album and Tony Smith is exceptional to.Great album and not talked about enough.Had it since day 1 and still love it.
Sanctuary (Birds Of Fire) 0:00 - 12:21
Smile Of The Beyond (Apocalypse) 12:38 - 37:02
Dawn (The Inner Mounting Flame) - 37:22 - 53:20.
never seen the complete footage so far.....first time.....thanks for posting....wonderful MO 2 material rare indeed....
Saw this band after having seen the original lineup two years earlier. It's the '72 version that sticks in my memory to this day. This version's...okay, much as I love Jean Luc and Neurotic Mike W, but the Cobham/Hammer/Goodman/Laird group were from another galaxy.
ditto
I agree with you buddy, there was something more soulful and bluesy about the original lineup. IMHO
Robert Dore You nailed it. Of course I think ALL music began becoming LESS bluesy and soulful the further away from the 60s/early70s we got.
lt was almost FALSE ADVERTlSlNG to call THlS line-up the M0.
Just call it M0 ll, duh.
JM wanted to have it both ways: keep the ticket sales and buzz from THE real M0, but w more subservant musicians.
Dltto other bands, like Van Hagar.
When my bands mutate, l alter then name to explain this to consumers.
H0W MANY young music fans will hear 0f a great band called PlNk FL0YD... and l00k them up and hear The Division Bell FlRST and say "yuck!"
For me, M0 ll is N0T the M0 at all. VERY VERY different beast. Not remotely as good.
In 1974, John called this 'the real Mahavishnu Orchestra'.
He was playing to a rock audience who expected continuity and some old stuff when they saw him live - instead, he played the whole of the 'Apocalypse' LP live (with 'Dawn' from 'Inner Mounting Flame' as encore).
John was making his own musical path - and the rock crowd's expectation be damned.
I thought I saw God in that audience. He was pleased.
Thank you very very very much for posting this.
The audio levels off by 2:20 and is good after that. Includes: Sanctuary (Birds Of Fire) 0:00 - 12:21, Smile Of The Beyond (Apocalypse) 12:38 - 37:02, and Dawn (The Inner Mounting Flame) - 37:22 - 53:20.
The original post had a French guy wittering over the top and this appears to have been removed but to the detriment of the sound.
The sound is good, but JLP's violin is too low in the mix.
Så denne oppsetningen i Chata Neuf i Oslo 1974. Fantastisk og minner om at det er 50 år siden.
thankyou a TREASURE
merci d'avoir posté cette musique la plus fabuleuse qui fut jouée par des musiciens libres
Thanks a million for posting this programme. I've been looking for it ever since I saw it on TV back in 74. I had never seen such good music so intelligently captured on video. Mc Laughlin is a genius and so is Jean Christophe Averty (I'm sure they are both fully aware of this fact)
Wait. This was on TV?! Where?
Wonderful! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for this great concert !
Big thanks for rare video!!!
Awesome. Any other footage of MO mark 2. I love watching Narada's playing.
GREAT SHARE !
My Detroit guys. Ralph Armstrong-bass and Narada Michael Walden
That was a baad rhythm section man!
Kalamazoo narada
@@scottbundle8304 Yes..But, he was in the D alot with Ralph and Norma Jean Bell.
Michael Walden went on to become Whitney Huston's producer.
Realy!?
Well now........that explains Narada 's coke addiction later on...........
Shot very well!!!
Jean Luc Ponty was actually the first chice for Mahavishnu 1, but he was busy. And they called on Tony Levin for the bass spot, but he thought it was "Murry Vishnu's Orchestra", a wedding band or something. Can't help but wonder if some slightly older, seasoned vets could've lasted longer.
John's management company fired the original band in December of 1973.
@@Riddim4 that seems like a rather cold way to do it, doesn't it ?
Moran, Walden, Ponty and Armstrong in; Hammer, Cobham, Goodman and Laird out
Thanks SO much for posting this !!! A real treasure of a lifetime.
( I wonder if John still has his Mesa Boogie in a closet somewhere)
Sound was real rough the first two minutes but this is the pure shit. For my money, this version of Mahavishnu is just as worthy as the first version. For the vibe they created. Narada gave Billy a run for his money on the drums.
Yeah. I really loved Ralphe's bass playing too. A fretless Precision and that's the first time I'd ever heard one. .. and a couples years earlier than I'd ever heard of Jaco.
How could a guy that young be that good ! He made the bass breathe with life.
Billy played drums with tremendous power, and Walden was a finesse guy, but I loved Narada's amazing technique and his whole stage persona. I felt like all these guys were from outer space. I still want that T-shirt Michael was wearing.
I mean, really, this music was from another world. Who is making this kind of kind of music anymore…. Narada was from another world during this time… And Gayle Moran was intrinsic to MO2. Spectacular footage from another time in music
I was there in la pinède d'Antibes, one of the best concert i ever see
OVNI Mysticopsychedelic
pour moi ,le batteur que je préfere avec Mahavishnu!
Inner Mounting Flame’s ..drum work by..Narada Michael Walden..is considered to be a landmark of jazz-rock drumming..and so it is...this solo is also fantastic.Thanks for Posting.
Billy Cobham is drummer on IMF, outstanding beyond compare to nMW who is more “pyrotechnics” than feel and tension and loads of other stuff but still a mean machine. Pls learn to avoid misinforming.
How many bits of applause did NMWs one solo generate? Five? It's a propos and the French are intense music fans. I would say the most sophisticated for prog, concept, or Bartok, Webern, Faure - Brazilian players flock to Paris, chromaticism is sought after, appreciated.
What's surprising to me how the even funkier and wilder proceedings of MO 1975 in Vienna are well-received, surely there could not be a colder crowd, by reputation, let alone you face an element of Strauss Beethoven or Mozart loyalty; JM for a minute brings that crowd a Debussy, possibly Mahler, flavour, in Power of Love, but otherwise the conservatory traditions are laid waste. A psychedelic show, that one - off the chain. No worry, though - ecstasy is the product, or, remnant.
OMG !!!
Gayle Moran singer and keyboardist is the wife of Chick Corea!
51:09 "Layla" - Eric Clapton
In this part. I also tried x2 video speed
And found out that it was more interesting 😄
Beautifull Ibanez Artist double neck !
its not the lobue??
No. Handmade by the late, great Rex Bogue...and he took exactly a year over it. R.I.P Rex.🕉👌
Ibanez ‘copied’ the tree of life design.
No. The double rainbow built by Rex Bogue. This instrument weighed 30 lbs.
This is crazy music, if you do not get out of the way of traffic you will be hit n with immense force and at speed [:] 0
🙌
God like 👍!!!
Michael Walden on drums, went on to produce first three Whitney Houston albums.
That explains Narada:'s coke addiction later on........
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Музыка из сказки... Абсолютное музыкальное волшебство!!!
Layla! Felt like he was searching to place a heavy rock riff in his comp, and throws in Layla.. Worth putting up with the lousy editing, sound, and comparisons of Maha I vs II to hear several moments of brilliance in this.
This isn't about which line-up is better - this is Mahavishnu's (John's) Orchestra and it wouldn't have worked with Jan & Jerry. Beautiful.
+Mark supeotmail.co.ukrbrain Yeah, it would have worked with Jan and Jerry if they got through their personal differences.
+Oneness100 I dunno - was there space for Jan's Moog solos? Having said that, Jerry's scuzzy violin might have nicely grubbed up the soundstage on what often could sound rather smooth - then again, you probably know better. Didn't you see the original line-up?
Mark supeotmail.co.ukrbrain I've seen MO through probably every single incarnation. The original, the 2nd, with and without JLP, and Gayle Moran, I saw them when they replaced them with Steve Kindler (formally part of the string section and he moved up to main solo violin), and Stu Goldberg.
Jerry Goodman had a much more grittier tone as he was far more experienced in blues/rock which gave him more edge to what he did, JLP was more smooth and his violin tone was very processed whereas Jerry's was had a more natural violin tone with various effects like going through a Leslie, amp distortion, and maybe some other toys. I preferred the grittier sound of Jerry, his was more down to earth, plus i think he was a more intense player. JLP's solos get kinda old and they tend to sound the same regardless of what song is being played. I've seen JLP with his own band several times as well.
+Oneness100 I kind of agree about Jerry - he was more 'out there' than JLP and he had a great raunchy sound - I just imagine it might have clashed with the smoothness of the string quartet, who apparently had enough trouble being heard as it was. I just can't 'hear' him on 'Apocalypse' - nor Jan, who didn't like 'Vision Is A Naked Sword' when MO1 rehearsed it.
BTW it would be nice to hear any memories you have of seeing MO live.
Mark supeotmail.co.ukrbrain Jan can play classical music, so he could adapt. It's just the music the original MO was doing was raw and I think that's what you're thinking. Have you heard Jerry's solo albums? He's great on those and he has a different sound than with MO. It's all about playing what the music dictates and the producers are going to give him the constraints. If you listen to the acoustic songs on IMF or BOF, he's much more reserved compared to the other material. Right?
24:55 When I x2 video speed. It looks like it's became 4k video
And Narada looks like Bobby Farrell (Boney M) in this one. And the way he rolling the toms remind me of Boney M - Rasputin too 🙂
Marsha Westbrook plays Viola unless she can play Alto sax also.Russel Tubbs or the African American lady plays Alto Sax.Gayle Moran is also on lead vocals & mostly all the strings & brass harmonize also.
Phil Hirschi (Cello)
i have arrived at all the drumming i ever want to hear - this Walden solo should be sent to Keppler and other Goldilocks zones
andrew gillis After a decade of supercomputer analysis, NASA supercompters finally decoded the first message we have received from extraterrestrial intelligence who found the music disks on our Voyager probes. The message says:
SEND MORE CHUCK BERRY
+yobbo3 but don't send Chuck himself, the ETs said, because we don't have the Fender amps specified in his rider
+andrew gillis
this was on TV the other day, also available as CD:
The Strat Pack: Live in Concert is a film of a September 24, 2004, concert featuring Joe Walsh, Gary Moore, Brian May (playing the Sunburst Stratocaster, in the opening set, rather than his signature guitar Red Special ), David Gilmour, Mike Rutherford and many more, marking the 50th Anniversary of the Fender Stratocaster guitar. The film was released in 2005.
btw, after dropping out of college to pursue a music opportunity, Brian May finally went back and got his PhD in astrophysics, and is also chancellor of a university in England. So it's never too late to finish school.
Sri Krishna
Logo a primeira música vem com a legenda errada. "Santurry" em vez de Sanctuary. Eu sou colecionador e tenho todos os discos da Mahavishnu e de John McLaughlin Por muitas vezes prefiro ouvir os discos do que ao vivo, mesmo sabendo que o impacto desta banda nos anos 70 foi enorme e a que colaboração de McLaughlin para a criação e desenvolvimento do estilo Fusion é incomparável.
Sorry...I'll have to say, "LESS cowbell" on this particular occasion...let Narada tell his own story...he is a definite phenom...and, while I'm at it...LESS dizzying camerawork, please and thank you...
July 29, 1974 Juan-Les-Pins, Antibes, France
And how about the Layla quotes at the end? Pretty cool! ❤️
Who plays the guitar accompaniment during JM's solo at 6:35?... or is it a loop?... in 1974 this is the first time I've seen this... correct me if I'm wrong
It's Gayle Moran doing the pattern softly on the Rhodes Keys
Walden would be more powerful if he used single strokes like Cobham did instead of using doubles to get his speed. Cobham was the perfect drummer for McLaughlins music. I loved Johns writing during this period though.
Howard Stern on trumpet!
I want to slap the film editor.
Let''s take it in turns :-)
Yet another Fellini influenced 2nd year failed film student?
TM will doTHAT to you...
Joshua ha. I like it
The line forms on the right.
I would never grow tired of slapping the editor of this video.
Billy Zabka from Karate Kid blowing trumpet
Why did John’s guitar always sound so tinny in live performances, like a buzzing gnat ?
They were all possessed by the everlasting Holy Spirit of "The Lord Of The Universe."
Same as the Govt of certain leading Wastelands.
Too much compression in the mix- called 'breathing.' Oh well.
It had been rumored that "if you didn't wear white/abstain you were going against the energy of the band" Sri Chinmoy
That's a double neck ibanez Artist 2617
like narada ,however, not the same caliber of cobham.
They are different people with different life experiences. Billy got this gig when he was in his late 20's, coming from a pretty strong rudimental background; Narada got this gig when he was 19. I think his playing on Emerald Beyond was a benchmark for guys like Mark Craney, Steve Smith and many others.
Jesus christ 21:08, Mclaughlin's solo sounds like something straight out of purgatory as god decides whether u get sent upwards or plummet downwards
Holy Mucking Fit! Where have you BEEN all my life? Or rather, all of RUclips's life. This is a band that's tragically under-rated, because they're NOT Maha-One. Hey, neither am I, nor are you... or Ted Nugent or Alice Cooper... it's like the 80's Miles Davis bands with the freshest young pyros on guitar - Robben Ford, John Scofield, Mike Stern. no they're NOT "Bitches Brew" or "Kind of Blue"; merely one of the finest bands on the planet when the Improv God was smiling. If regurged 50's Miles is your cup o'T, there's all sort of pale imitations, start with that Marsalis Doosh. Oops sorry - B if it warn't for Topic Drift we might not have no drift atall....
yup agree and JM was on Brew, for that matter. same point/thing for Santana: how awesome is that 1975 & 76 lineup, w Birch or Chancler at drums? Coster & on bass David Brown, or Pablo Tellez? Sax, and a bunch of upright bass used in studio? The Borboletta & Festival LPs hang together incredibly well; the stage show we saw was an utter trip - hypnotizing, funky world music, songs making magic segues into new ones, & played by the happiest musicians I have ever seen emerge from a dressing room. Cat named Leon Patillo was a superb singer.
Anyway - that was touring season number 7 for a band that made about 40 more - with fresh hit songs to play on at least 7 of these (later) tours. Version of band where Buddy Miles sang in the 80s would also have been one-of-a-kind, plainly a Santana band, out on the road, & wowing crowds.
C0BHAM... WH0?
[klddlng!]
I really liked Walden's stint with this group.
Not many people know he ended up being Whitney Houston's producer in the 80s...
And many others as well . Google him. Great talent.
Narada was an good drummer ....but Cobham is the King!
The fading audio at the beginning is super lame.
Ok tuning was not the most imported thing at that performance……
I fucking hate this technique of blending two images . It says nothing , improves nothing . There's little enough footage of the Mahavishnu Orchestra and what you see here might as well be put out for the dustman
Hmm, really good food if you add too many ingredients and cook it too long, it just doesn't taste that good. Blah.
I KNOW Cobbham left the group to start his own solo projects this song does not sound the same without precision and power.
Narada wasn’t exactly chopped liver. Some preferred him to Billy.
@@daledykes9253 Not much worse in my opinion.I saw Walden with the band in 74' and he fitted perfectly.Was brilliant as with the whole band.
@@paulkazakoff9231 Where was this? What was it like?
@@markrobinson1360 Yeah they did an Australian tour that year and I saw them at the Perth Concert Hall in Western Australia.Absolutely fabulous from memory and would be easily in my top 10 concerts and I've been to a lot of them over the years.Just remember it being very intense and powerful with that brass section and some strings and of course Jean-Luc Ponty was a total standout along with Mclaughlin of course.Amazingly Weather Report toured here also not long after and about as good as these guys in there own way.Fabulous and lucky enough to catch Jaco with this line up.
@@daledykes9253 Apples Oranges and Chopped Liver, listening to Michael Walden here with absolute awe. JM's choice of a drummer is always perfect.
Michael Walden is a great drummer, but not enough for this band, John should have stolen alphonse from larrry coreyell lol
Awesome but dry.
Terrible video editing. Great show.
It's all form, no substance.
what?
Gibberish.
One more thing...as great a player as he is, I find McLaughlin's tone here harsh and ugly...it was much better in the studio, with reverb , better eq and stereo panning. Listen to virtually all of Visions of the Emerald Beyond and see if you don't agree...
clearly too lazy to rehearse
Ok….i love MO ….but this here is uggly….and hmmmmmm terrible…..
truly awful drum solo