I've been trying to buy a Porsche 944, however my mom is sort of against me buying it, even though I'm paying for it. After watching this video I've got more reasons to buy the 944 especially since it's my dream car.
Don't let her manipulate you into buying another car, I wanted to buy a 944 S2 as my first car 4 years ago, since then they almost doubled in price… The reasonable car did hold it's value but neither is it as much fun or got worth more money…
One of the better 944 videos, thank you, but 25 seconds in, first inaccuracy, the 944 was not Porsche's first collaboration, the 914 was far earlier, and the 924 was designed by Porsche for VW, even using an Audi based engine. Other points, Clutches last 100K to 130K miles, trip reset is a myth, one gear in the train is made out of a plastic that doesn't age well and crumples, being reset or not it will fail.....standard DME relays do not "fail regularly" a little more than most, but it is 2 relays in one body. - 7 x 944 owner over 15 years, currently have 3
@@KurruptedDataYouT Issue is when the basics are wrong or initial opinion's are flawed, it is verry difficult to take the rest of it seriously....... Depends where you are based, in the UK its the sills., second is the sills, then the rest of the body ..... then you consider the model, 16v, its the cam chain and tensioner etc, then you go into the service history and go from there.......
that 944 looks like a very nice example, the interior works surprisingly well with the white exterior, a true classic Porsche and getting popular, great video.
I've got a 1987 944s, had it 24 years , keep up with the servicing and maintenance and you have got yourself a cool reliable classic that is only going up in value. Fantastic car.
I'm across the pond and currently shopping to both an early and late 944. My first car in 88 was a 78 924 and I have never felt another car yet that feels so good! 944's are hitting 8k and up over here. I will get an early model to invest in and polish $$ out of it, and I hope to find 87+ S or even better S2. 15k US should land me a fine example. Thanks for your work. I've seen these cars scrapped for years and it breaks my heart. In 10 years we will all be kicking ourselves for not buying NOW
you say your videos are for entertainment purposes only and indeed they are very entertaining, also they are informative, we get just enough nerdy details, a perfect balance for a friday evening, thank you, please keep them coming.
My dad owned 4 Porsches during the 50s and 60s. He wasn't a millionaire; he was a boiler engineer in the Merchant Marine and at Rockwell and then at Douglas. The good old days.
Great video Roger. Thanks for using my car and spending the day with you and Jilly was well worth the long drive from Hampshire to stunning North Wales. Many thanks ! Mike
Love my 84..got every single part i needed down to the trunk retractable cover! Never had anyone keep up with me in the twisties! THATS where these cars shine !!! 😃👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
It's about time someone gave some praise to the n/a 944. I love my 85, owned for 7 years. And it's fast enough. Not bad for 165hp. Raw and smooth as hell, tons of fun.
Great video! I couldn't help be amused as you were describing the 944, especially with regards to maintenance and cost, it almost sounded like you were describing the VW Scirocco 16V except that it's not that expensive to maintain. LOL. But like the 944, parts are getting harder to find and both cars suffer from the same maladies like cracking dashes. It's also a bit amusing that back in the day, the Scirocco was a scant faster than the 944. Mahalo for such a lovely and eloquent video!
Great review on a beautiful condition 944. Lovely. My first was a 944S2, in 89. Brilliant machine and I got hooked, numerous Porsches later, I still love the 944/968 series.
I recently took possession of my late father-in-laws pristine 1983 944 with 5spd and no power steering. It had no service records, except for oil changes and fluid changes. I took it to an independent Porsche shop that serviced all the major components and engine seals, replaced alternator and more. It is very fun to drive. I get lots of thumbs ups and comments about the car. Recently I drove into Hollywood and I had a woman next to me taking pictures and waving. Maybe I looked like a movie star?
Another lovely video Roger ! Such a great underrated classic and you've masterfully managed to expose this gem. Welsh roads and scenery are beautiful too, I cant wait to get back 😀!
I had a 924 fresh out of collage, and It was fantastic. I always wanted a 944S loaded out like this one, but instead I got a wife, a baby girl, became a responsible adult, and traded the Porsche for a 4 door 190E. I have often wondered about the road less traveled....
I have exactly the same. Bought in 1997. Only driven 137.000km now. Pleasant car. Repair expencive. Keep them origenaal is important. The most tests are 944s or turbo. This a good review, about the 944 Reactions from jealouse people its an AUDi. Then you now they are jealous😮
Great cars and still going well. They are now a nostalgic buy to relive those 1980s vibes with cassette decks and tie dye shirts. Again some great superlatives Roger and thanks for making us feel old again! 🙈
Great review. I have an '83 944, and it's seriously the best car I've ever owned. I hear a lot of people say that the standard 944 naturally aspirated model is not "fast", but I've found that mine had excellent pickup mixed with smooth handling. Of all the cars I've owned, my 944 is definitely my favorite to drive. Judging by the current prices I'm seeing, a lot of people are finally taking interest in the 944.
I have 3 Porsches, a 911sc, a 993tt and a 944 turbo S. The 993 is a great car but you can't get out of second gear in Australia. The 911 is fun but you can't beat the old school turbo lag and then jettison from a 250hp 944. It is my favourite to drive to work or on long trips, hey the air con works. Great cars and significantly undervalued compared to a 308 or 328 Ferrari which can't even keep up and you always have a piece of them in your back seat. If you get the chance for a turbo S (based on the cup racing cars don't hesitate). Cheers Lee
I got an 86 944 (my favorite year in terms of styling) last year with only 27k miles. Still looks new. I love it, even compared to my 2018 BMW M6. It’s easily one of the most beautiful cars ever made and it’s so satisfying to drive.
Still great cars! brilliant engine!! I mean its designed by Hans Metzger..... we all see 996 and 997 911 with bore scored engines which will cost 10k to fix.....you rarely see an old 944 with an engine issue !
A great car I have a 1983 944 and a 1987 924s. So much fun to drive and enjoy! Agreed I have been noticing the prices have increased in the last few years so if you want one you only live once!
I am an extremely happy owner (going on two decades, now) of a ‘90 S2 Cabriolet. Cost to operate? Negligible….as long as an astute owner keeps up with the recommended maintenance schedule. That can bite…..if you don’t turn your own wrench. Buy the absolute best example that you can find….from an owner who understands keeping up with the maintenances! When I bought mine, I passed on three, before settling on mine. Always, always, ALWAYS get a PPI (pre-purchase inspection), and don’t assume that a modern Porsche dealership can do an adequate PPI on these older Porsches….they cannot. And for that PPI, expect to pay $200-$300 (American dollars) each. I enjoyed this video this morning…..I think I’ll take a autumn drive up the Maine coast and back through the White Mountains of New Hampshire…..as I’ll be putting mine into winter storage soon. Again, great video, great information, beautiful scenery!
Always loved the 944 & 928 growing up, but never could afford to go up from the "vette" price range. Fast forward ... when I could afford at least a cpo Porsche, I always went a different direction UNTIL finally driving a 911. After less than 1 mile driving it, I knew Id FINALLY found my Sweetspot after 70+ cars (not a collector, just driver). The 2019 991.2 4 gts. Perfect for me!!! Nothing newer. 😀
914 was the first time they collaborated with another manufacturer really. I know people don’t think they’re really Porsche’s but I loved my ‘85 924. The 944 was far closer to a ‘real’ Porsche.
first experience was an 84 944 with an automatic 3 speed transmission- I was less than impressed. fast forward- 2014; I was look to buy a Motorcycle and the Man had a 1988 924S in the yard for sale too. He offered me a test drive and I came back the next day and bought it. The first impression of the 944 was superseded by the 924S, packed with all the 944 bits and pieces from the parts bins. Same 944 Maintenance Procedures - timing belts, clutch, DME relay, headgasket, what 30 year old car does not require maintenance? All said, it is a little monster, 2700 pounds and 150HP- just enough to have some fun on the weekly grocery run.
As a 944 owner I agree with everything he said. The 944 has all the good points of a modern car with none of the real drawbacks. You don't have to set the ignition timing or mess around with a carburetor because all of that is computer controlled, but it's not so complicated that you can't work on it yourself. It's easy to live with, economical for a porsche, has great, old school German build quality and is fun to drive. The car is very balanced and the engine comes alive around 5k rpm. Handling is good, very forgiving and predictable, but the 944 is definitely not for people who want a fast car. Clunky and wooly shifting due to the transmission being all the way in the back is my least favorite thing about driver controls. Mechanically, the timing belt/water pump is the only real achilles heel of the car, like he mentions. Porsche did some revisions but never really seemed to nail it down. For people who set it properly and do maintenance it doesn't seem to be a big deal though. Guards Red with black leather are my favorite color options, but white on white is a great 80's color combo. You can tell whoever owns this car took great care of it.
as much love and esteem as people have for the E30 M3...me knowing i could never afford one or be willing to own/drive one with heavy use....the 944 to me is a more realistic car to own/drive. Definitely been on my radar...and modern cars have progressed to this current status/point....i am aware/fearful of the 944's being bought up in the coming years due to a general need/lack of modern options for this level/range of intuitive/driving experience enjoyment power aside. With added emphasis on level of fun/enjoyment at lower speeds being a huge point of emphasis that MANY newer cars genuinely lack.
Ah Roger, how the memories came flooding back! I swapped a 1982 Fiat X1/9 for a 1986 944 Lux back in 1990 (not quite a straight swap...) and what a revelation. Don't get me wrong, the little Fiat was a hoot to drive, not fast by any means (85bhp..) but fun on a twisty road and you could stow the roof under the front lid on a sunny day. Stepping out of the slowly bio-degrading Italian into the (recently updated) 944 cabin was a revelation The feeling of well-screwed-together solidity was a world away from the X1/9. The driving experience was also in another league and at first the 944 felt like a rocket-ship. However, the 'need for speed' crept up on me and I swapped it a couple of years later for a 944 S2: 211 versus 163bhp made quite a difference. I also liked the slightly neater front-end treatment of the S2 compared to the earlier cars. Fast-forward via a 928S4, 928GTS, 964 C4 and a couple of Boxsters later and we arrive at the current car that my wife hates...a 1996 993 C2 in my favourite colour, Iris blue. Well, she likes her Skoda, bless her. It's lovely to see videos featuring some of the older Porsche models, the current crop all seem to have grown bigger in every direction! Keep up the good work and cheers from a rather chilly Otford, Kent.
I never drove a 924 0r the bigger sibling the 944. As seen here. But I did drive a 928 s4. Wow! Love it. Couldn't afford it. But loved it. It had oodles or road presence. The 924/944 is a real iconic shape. And of course, Renault tried to _"copy"_ the 924/944 with the Fuego Coupé and the 928 _look-a-likie,_ Alpine GTA in the '80's. But they still didn't have that _je ne sais quoi_ of the Porsches. Great video though Mr. B. Nice to see a _lusted after_ car from my 20's 8-))... Your No1 Stalker ;-))... _Trust that you and the Blonde Stalker are both well 8-))...
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I own 2 of these nice machines. I must apologize and admit I changed out the engine in the 1983 with an LT 1 engine from a 1994 Caprice. This 944 now performs like it should. I lost a small portion of the balanced steering but gained it all back in acceleration.
Let me guess you are from the US. Stop putting V8's in things, just get the turbo S and add some tuning kit and it will out perform the V8. Lindsay racing in US has kits to boost from 300hp up to 500hp, as they used to be in racing spec, for the Porsche cup in UK and France back in late 80's.
@@leegwilliam11 Sorry but unlike you I dont have 10.or 20 thousand dollars in expendable cash to invest into it. I do get many many people compliments just like I did put a ton of money into it though. Spend your money and drive around . I guarentee you will get beat by someone somewhere. Maybe tomorrow maybe a month maybe a year but you will get beat. The car makes me smile when I drive it,thats all that matters.
Ahh Roger, great video. Yeah, back in the 80's I lusted over the 944 (and the Ferrari Mondial). Ok, so the 944 isn't a GT2, but it was such a stylish car!
Roger, thx for cool Presentation of a real and timeless beauty which is suprisingly efficient and modern in comfort. If you appreciate more punch and boost, give us a follow Up and part two of that with its faster brother , the 944 turbo😉🍀👍
I also liked the way Porsche made what is really quite a large capacity 4 cylinder engine (2.5ltr to 3.0ltr) Did Porsche only ever turbocharge the 8 valve head engines? Or did they ever do a 3.0ltr 16 valve turbo?
Overlooked? I've heard 20 times more about this car the last 5 years than any similarly aged porsche, people won't shut up about how great a deal they are, like fine, we get it, you go buy them, jeezzz.
Hello! I’m looking for parts for the engine of my Porsche 944. I am looking for parts that can be compatible to Porsche. I’m not really a car guy, so I need your help. This was given to me in 2014 and I wanted to restore it.
Wouldn’t the insurance be relatively cheap if it isn’t that fast? I’m a big fan of these vintage cars but I don’t want the headache of expensive insurance and it always breaking. Any suggestions for cars like these? Is a Toyota Mk Mr2 good for example?
"..everything is available from an OPC often at prices that beat independent suppliers...". Well, that's a joke - many many 944 parts are NLA (no longer available), such as the rubber sleeve that fits over the rear set pin. If yours goes, your rear seats rattle. Independents won't charge you the fortune OPC will to fix/service your 944. Another NLA (I could list dozens): Fuel pressure regulators - Bosch don't make them anymore and you'll be lucky to get one for less than £300 plus VAT, same as fuel dampers and good luck getting new front struts: the last time they were available, they were £550+ for one and £350+ for the other. You have to fit a threaded sleeve on old one's, fit a new spring, shock absorber and get them painted/powder coated. He never mentioned trim. Carpets, seats, upholstery are NLA and you will not get moulded carpet sets and you will pay a fortune for re-upholstering by the likes of Southbound. Do not break or want to replace the rear hatch glass - you'll be staring down the barrel of over £5k for new. I know all this because I have been restoring one for the past few years. It was cheaper for me to buy a donor 944 than source a lot of the parts I needed, which is what I did. Have a look in the used 944 ads for sale - some with receipts exceeding £20k and selling for half that. That ^ white one is exceptional and rare because of it. Many are ropey. Buy one but go over it with a fine toothcomb because they are not really going up like other classic cars because bits are difficult to source and expensive (if they are available) which is and has been for the past 10 years, dampening the value of the 944. Best be a DIYer if you want one, especially if you intend to get OPC servicing and repair. The simplest, little job will cost you £200+ph plus VAT as opposed to indie prices a fraction of that. www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=1592683
*Why can't people be honest about old cars?* "it's no longer a fast car." It's a slow car. "It's a car that connects the driver directly to the control interface." So does my lawn mower. "for me, it replays a glorious analogue, one of the 1980s greatest hits" I am trying to relive my youth like every other 60 year old.
Don't do it. The car is a borderline antique. Parts are expensive and the knowledge base is dying off. The only people who should be buying 944's are collectors with money and race shops with fabrication skills.
@@SAMMYJR00777 actually, if not LS swap why not throw a k20 or k24 engine in it. Perfect spacing for that engine. Lots of space to tuck an intercooler. Decent space for a turbo kit or supercharger. After that a clean set of rims and coils. There you go a fun track car that no one would expect to pull up on em. Lol
Best looking Porsche ever made and you can’t change my mind
Even though I own a 944 turbo and I love it, I think it's hard to beat the old school beauty of the 911s from the 70s~90s.
Agree I own one... 911 is nice but they are everywhere... a nice 944 hard to find..
I had a 944 s2 back in the day
I loved it
Pop up headlights are something I still miss
had wish could and gone smh.... bad move....
I've been trying to buy a Porsche 944, however my mom is sort of against me buying it, even though I'm paying for it. After watching this video I've got more reasons to buy the 944 especially since it's my dream car.
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Just bought one at 17, already love it
Don't let her manipulate you into buying another car, I wanted to buy a 944 S2 as my first car 4 years ago, since then they almost doubled in price… The reasonable car did hold it's value but neither is it as much fun or got worth more money…
Literally same Sam story and everything
Are you ready to replace the clutch? If it's a manual.
I had one 84 944. Loved it, cared for it, enhanced it. Ran great. Unfortunately sold it. That was the beginning of its end. They blew the motor up😢
One of the better 944 videos, thank you, but 25 seconds in, first inaccuracy, the 944 was not Porsche's first collaboration, the 914 was far earlier, and the 924 was designed by Porsche for VW, even using an Audi based engine. Other points, Clutches last 100K to 130K miles, trip reset is a myth, one gear in the train is made out of a plastic that doesn't age well and crumples, being reset or not it will fail.....standard DME relays do not "fail regularly" a little more than most, but it is 2 relays in one body. - 7 x 944 owner over 15 years, currently have 3
Thank you for sharing this, it sounds like you’ve had a fair bit of 944 experience! Best wishes - Roger
What are the biggest things one should look for when buying a 944? Things that separate the car from a decent condition to a lemon.
@@KurruptedDataYouT Issue is when the basics are wrong or initial opinion's are flawed, it is verry difficult to take the rest of it seriously.......
Depends where you are based, in the UK its the sills., second is the sills, then the rest of the body ..... then you consider the model, 16v, its the cam chain and tensioner etc, then you go into the service history and go from there.......
Which would you choose, 944S 16v or 1989 944 with 2.7 ? Which one is more fuel efficient? Thanks.
@@byhsu6140 S2 210ps. 944 is slow for todays standards . Or some Ls swap.
2.5 or 2.7 usa not much fuel... every 16v will use more
Absolute credit to the owner here, that 944 is immaculate inside and out. Love it 😎
that 944 looks like a very nice example, the interior works surprisingly well with the white exterior, a true classic Porsche and getting popular, great video.
Thanks for that Stefan! It’s mine
Another video that was well worth waiting for, a masterclass production Roger Bailey and yes I have now got the 944 bug!
thanks Barry
I've got a 1987 944s, had it 24 years , keep up with the servicing and maintenance and you have got yourself a cool reliable classic that is only going up in value. Fantastic car.
Always nice seeing a well kept old car, props to the owner
I'm across the pond and currently shopping to both an early and late 944. My first car in 88 was a 78 924 and I have never felt another car yet that feels so good! 944's are hitting 8k and up over here. I will get an early model to invest in and polish $$ out of it, and I hope to find 87+ S or even better S2. 15k US should land me a fine example. Thanks for your work. I've seen these cars scrapped for years and it breaks my heart. In 10 years we will all be kicking ourselves for not buying NOW
you say your videos are for entertainment purposes only and indeed they are very entertaining, also they are informative, we get just enough nerdy details, a perfect balance for a friday evening, thank you, please keep them coming.
I appreciate that!
My dad owned 4 Porsches during the 50s and 60s. He wasn't a millionaire; he was a boiler engineer in the Merchant Marine and at Rockwell and then at Douglas. The good old days.
That interior is to die for. Great color and condition!
Great video Roger. Thanks for using my car and spending the day with you and Jilly was well worth the long drive from Hampshire to stunning North Wales. Many thanks ! Mike
Thank you again Mike for bringing your 944 to show to us all, our very best wishes - R&J
I own a 1986 944 Turbo, with the ‘phone dial’ wheels. All original including the Blapunkt stereo. She is pristine, and a joy to drive.
It's my favorite car I've owned. Miss her.. mine was left driver side..so fun.
Love my 84..got every single part i needed down to the trunk retractable cover! Never had anyone keep up with me in the twisties! THATS where these cars shine !!! 😃👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
It's about time someone gave some praise to the n/a 944. I love my 85, owned for 7 years. And it's fast enough. Not bad for 165hp. Raw and smooth as hell, tons of fun.
Great video. I’ve had my 86 turbo for a few years now and It’s just a blast to drive here in CO.
I've really fallen for my 944S you vid makes me like mine even more. Thank you sir.
Glad to hear it
Glad to say this car, my 944 is going on display for people to enjoy in the new updated Porsche Reading showroom very soon.
All your videos take us on a journey, great entertainment and informative, these 944s are starting to gain traction in the marketplace
Glad you like them!
Great video! I couldn't help be amused as you were describing the 944, especially with regards to maintenance and cost, it almost sounded like you were describing the VW Scirocco 16V except that it's not that expensive to maintain. LOL. But like the 944, parts are getting harder to find and both cars suffer from the same maladies like cracking dashes. It's also a bit amusing that back in the day, the Scirocco was a scant faster than the 944. Mahalo for such a lovely and eloquent video!
Great car, thanks for sharing
No problem 👍
Great review on a beautiful condition 944. Lovely.
My first was a 944S2, in 89. Brilliant machine and I got hooked, numerous Porsches later, I still love the 944/968 series.
Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏼
Great review Roger. I am thinking of buying one 944 from 1989 very soon ;-) Greetings from Marbella!
Very informative thank you Roger
thanks eddie
I recently took possession of my late father-in-laws pristine 1983 944 with 5spd and no power steering. It had no service records, except for oil changes and fluid changes. I took it to an independent Porsche shop that serviced all the major components and engine seals, replaced alternator and more. It is very fun to drive. I get lots of thumbs ups and comments about the car. Recently I drove into Hollywood and I had a woman next to me taking pictures and waving. Maybe I looked like a movie star?
Hi Roger, good to meet you today, I’ll forward this to my friend’s son., Jim
Hi Jim, was nice meeting you, what a great day we had, best wishes - Roger & Jilly
Another lovely video Roger ! Such a great underrated classic and you've masterfully managed to expose this gem. Welsh roads and scenery are beautiful too, I cant wait to get back 😀!
thanks Barry, nice seeing you
I had a 924 fresh out of collage, and It was fantastic. I always wanted a 944S loaded out like this one, but instead I got a wife, a baby girl, became a responsible adult, and traded the Porsche for a 4 door 190E. I have often wondered about the road less traveled....
You made this a month after I bought mine lol it's my second and it's a later model. I miss the early gauges and interior
I have exactly the same. Bought in 1997. Only driven 137.000km now.
Pleasant car. Repair expencive. Keep them origenaal is important.
The most tests are 944s or turbo.
This a good review, about the 944
Reactions from jealouse people its an AUDi. Then you now they are jealous😮
Great cars and still going well. They are now a nostalgic buy to relive those 1980s vibes with cassette decks and tie dye shirts. Again some great superlatives Roger and thanks for making us feel old again! 🙈
Nice seeing you again, thanks - RB
Tie dye shirts from the 1980s? Yeah, don't comment anymore. You're clueless.
Great review. I have an '83 944, and it's seriously the best car I've ever owned. I hear a lot of people say that the standard 944 naturally aspirated model is not "fast", but I've found that mine had excellent pickup mixed with smooth handling. Of all the cars I've owned, my 944 is definitely my favorite to drive. Judging by the current prices I'm seeing, a lot of people are finally taking interest in the 944.
ah the memories, thanks Mr Bailey another excellent production
Lovely video Roger! Very nicely shot too 👍
thanks ! you have a great channel 👍🏼
I have 3 Porsches, a 911sc, a 993tt and a 944 turbo S. The 993 is a great car but you can't get out of second gear in Australia. The 911 is fun but you can't beat the old school turbo lag and then jettison from a 250hp 944. It is my favourite to drive to work or on long trips, hey the air con works. Great cars and significantly undervalued compared to a 308 or 328 Ferrari which can't even keep up and you always have a piece of them in your back seat. If you get the chance for a turbo S (based on the cup racing cars don't hesitate). Cheers Lee
I always wanted a 944 when I was a kid they where everywhere.
I got an 86 944 (my favorite year in terms of styling) last year with only 27k miles. Still looks new. I love it, even compared to my 2018 BMW M6. It’s easily one of the most beautiful cars ever made and it’s so satisfying to drive.
Still great cars! brilliant engine!! I mean its designed by Hans Metzger..... we all see 996 and 997 911 with bore scored engines which will cost 10k to fix.....you rarely see an old 944 with an engine issue !
A great car I have a 1983 944 and a 1987 924s. So much fun to drive and enjoy! Agreed I have been noticing the prices have increased in the last few years so if you want one you only live once!
I am an extremely happy owner (going on two decades, now) of a ‘90 S2 Cabriolet. Cost to operate? Negligible….as long as an astute owner keeps up with the recommended maintenance schedule. That can bite…..if you don’t turn your own wrench. Buy the absolute best example that you can find….from an owner who understands keeping up with the maintenances! When I bought mine, I passed on three, before settling on mine. Always, always, ALWAYS get a PPI (pre-purchase inspection), and don’t assume that a modern Porsche dealership can do an adequate PPI on these older Porsches….they cannot. And for that PPI, expect to pay $200-$300 (American dollars) each. I enjoyed this video this morning…..I think I’ll take a autumn drive up the Maine coast and back through the White Mountains of New Hampshire…..as I’ll be putting mine into winter storage soon. Again, great video, great information, beautiful scenery!
Thank you for sharing this, hope you enjoyed that drive :-)
Always loved the 944 & 928 growing up, but never could afford to go up from the "vette" price range.
Fast forward ... when I could afford at least a cpo Porsche, I always went a different direction UNTIL finally driving a 911.
After less than 1 mile driving it, I knew Id FINALLY found my Sweetspot after 70+ cars (not a collector, just driver).
The 2019 991.2 4 gts. Perfect for me!!! Nothing newer. 😀
I agree and find one in a gorgeous period colour with factory Fuchs. Great video Mr B.
thanks Martin
914 was the first time they collaborated with another manufacturer really. I know people don’t think they’re really Porsche’s but I loved my ‘85 924. The 944 was far closer to a ‘real’ Porsche.
first experience was an 84 944 with an automatic 3 speed transmission- I was less than impressed. fast forward- 2014; I was look to buy a Motorcycle and the Man had a 1988 924S in the yard for sale too. He offered me a test drive and I came back the next day and bought it. The first impression of the 944 was superseded by the 924S, packed with all the 944 bits and pieces from the parts bins. Same 944 Maintenance Procedures - timing belts, clutch, DME relay, headgasket, what 30 year old car does not require maintenance? All said, it is a little monster, 2700 pounds and 150HP- just enough to have some fun on the weekly grocery run.
thanks John for sharing this
I had a white 944 turbo model as a kid. And coveted that more than the guards red 911 airfix model
really nice video this one rodger and a lovely car
As a 944 owner I agree with everything he said. The 944 has all the good points of a modern car with none of the real drawbacks. You don't have to set the ignition timing or mess around with a carburetor because all of that is computer controlled, but it's not so complicated that you can't work on it yourself. It's easy to live with, economical for a porsche, has great, old school German build quality and is fun to drive. The car is very balanced and the engine comes alive around 5k rpm. Handling is good, very forgiving and predictable, but the 944 is definitely not for people who want a fast car. Clunky and wooly shifting due to the transmission being all the way in the back is my least favorite thing about driver controls. Mechanically, the timing belt/water pump is the only real achilles heel of the car, like he mentions. Porsche did some revisions but never really seemed to nail it down. For people who set it properly and do maintenance it doesn't seem to be a big deal though.
Guards Red with black leather are my favorite color options, but white on white is a great 80's color combo. You can tell whoever owns this car took great care of it.
as much love and esteem as people have for the E30 M3...me knowing i could never afford one or be willing to own/drive one with heavy use....the 944 to me is a more realistic car to own/drive. Definitely been on my radar...and modern cars have progressed to this current status/point....i am aware/fearful of the 944's being bought up in the coming years due to a general need/lack of modern options for this level/range of intuitive/driving experience enjoyment power aside. With added emphasis on level of fun/enjoyment at lower speeds being a huge point of emphasis that MANY newer cars genuinely lack.
Great video!! 🙂
Thank you! 😀
Ah Roger, how the memories came flooding back! I swapped a 1982 Fiat X1/9 for a 1986 944 Lux back in 1990 (not quite a straight swap...) and what a revelation. Don't get me wrong, the little Fiat was a hoot to drive, not fast by any means (85bhp..) but fun on a twisty road and you could stow the roof under the front lid on a sunny day. Stepping out of the slowly bio-degrading Italian into the (recently updated) 944 cabin was a revelation The feeling of well-screwed-together solidity was a world away from the X1/9. The driving experience was also in another league and at first the 944 felt like a rocket-ship. However, the 'need for speed' crept up on me and I swapped it a couple of years later for a 944 S2: 211 versus 163bhp made quite a difference. I also liked the slightly neater front-end treatment of the S2 compared to the earlier cars. Fast-forward via a 928S4, 928GTS, 964 C4 and a couple of Boxsters later and we arrive at the current car that my wife hates...a 1996 993 C2 in my favourite colour, Iris blue. Well, she likes her Skoda, bless her. It's lovely to see videos featuring some of the older Porsche models, the current crop all seem to have grown bigger in every direction! Keep up the good work and cheers from a rather chilly Otford, Kent.
Some great cars there Neil, thanks for sharing this
Hi Rog, excellent video as always, The interior almost passes for a modern car which is quite surprising, loved the colour inside too.
thanks John, 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Enjoyable video, love my s 2!
I never drove a 924 0r the bigger sibling the 944. As seen here. But I did drive a 928 s4. Wow! Love it. Couldn't afford it. But loved it. It had oodles or road presence.
The 924/944 is a real iconic shape. And of course, Renault tried to _"copy"_ the 924/944 with the Fuego Coupé and the 928 _look-a-likie,_ Alpine GTA in the '80's. But they still didn't have that _je ne sais quoi_ of the Porsches.
Great video though Mr. B. Nice to see a _lusted after_ car from my 20's 8-))...
Your No1 Stalker ;-))...
_Trust that you and the Blonde Stalker are both well 8-))...
thanks TZ yes its an iconic shape, trusting you are well, Blondie and I fine thanks for asking - RB & JB
@@RogerBaileyOnCars Mr. B.
I've just seen this from your beloved Porsche 8-))...
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Still your No1 Stalker ;-))...
I own 2 of these nice machines. I must apologize and admit I changed out the engine in the 1983 with an LT 1 engine from a 1994 Caprice. This 944 now performs like it should. I lost a small portion of the balanced steering but gained it all back in acceleration.
Let me guess you are from the US. Stop putting V8's in things, just get the turbo S and add some tuning kit and it will out perform the V8. Lindsay racing in US has kits to boost from 300hp up to 500hp, as they used to be in racing spec, for the Porsche cup in UK and France back in late 80's.
@@leegwilliam11 Sorry but unlike you I dont have 10.or 20 thousand dollars in expendable cash to invest into it. I do get many many people compliments just like I did put a ton of money into it though. Spend your money and drive around . I guarentee you will get beat by someone somewhere. Maybe tomorrow maybe a month maybe a year but you will get beat. The car makes me smile when I drive it,thats all that matters.
Ahh Roger, great video. Yeah, back in the 80's I lusted over the 944 (and the Ferrari Mondial). Ok, so the 944 isn't a GT2, but it was such a stylish car!
thanks Darren, two great cars there
Candy Apple Red would be a more perfect color.
Still a great car, once you get the tricky gear shifting solved.
They are nice, I do however personaly prefer the similarly aged BMWs.
Do they work well in snowy weather? I live in Canada and looking to buy one
Roger, thx for cool Presentation of a real and timeless beauty which is suprisingly efficient and modern in comfort. If you appreciate more punch and boost, give us a follow Up and part two of that with its faster brother , the 944 turbo😉🍀👍
Thanks for sharing this Harri, 👍🏼
Don't forget about the 914, the original affordable Porsche!
Well ... I'm sold!
Well, that is until you said it's 4cylinder engine was "half the 928 engine." Think I'll just wait till I can get my REAL dream car, the 928
Well, that is until you said it's 4cylinder engine was "half the 928 engine." Think I'll just wait till I can get my REAL dream car, the 928
I also liked the way Porsche made what is really quite a large capacity 4 cylinder engine (2.5ltr to 3.0ltr) Did Porsche only ever turbocharge the 8 valve head engines? Or did they ever do a 3.0ltr 16 valve turbo?
"16ventiler" 16 valve was only on the 3.0ltr, turbo's were only ever 2.5
My 944 got 25-30 MPG making it fun economical daily driver
Epic…
Overlooked? I've heard 20 times more about this car the last 5 years than any similarly aged porsche, people won't shut up about how great a deal they are, like fine, we get it, you go buy them, jeezzz.
Is this car a 2.7 lt?
Hello! I’m looking for parts for the engine of my Porsche 944. I am looking for parts that can be compatible to Porsche. I’m not really a car guy, so I need your help. This was given to me in 2014 and I wanted to restore it.
Btw, I’m from the Philippines.
A normal car. Engine out front . Could we see a 944, 968 , 928 and or either one launched as modern new porches one day , all combustion, petrol. ??
Just bought an 83
These cars are maintenance prone and expensive to fix. Not fast either. The best way to keep it running is not to drive it.
Wouldn’t the insurance be relatively cheap if it isn’t that fast? I’m a big fan of these vintage cars but I don’t want the headache of expensive insurance and it always breaking. Any suggestions for cars like these? Is a Toyota Mk Mr2 good for example?
Are you from the Wirral?
I am
"..everything is available from an OPC often at prices that beat independent suppliers...". Well, that's a joke - many many 944 parts are NLA (no longer available), such as the rubber sleeve that fits over the rear set pin. If yours goes, your rear seats rattle. Independents won't charge you the fortune OPC will to fix/service your 944. Another NLA (I could list dozens): Fuel pressure regulators - Bosch don't make them anymore and you'll be lucky to get one for less than £300 plus VAT, same as fuel dampers and good luck getting new front struts: the last time they were available, they were £550+ for one and £350+ for the other. You have to fit a threaded sleeve on old one's, fit a new spring, shock absorber and get them painted/powder coated. He never mentioned trim. Carpets, seats, upholstery are NLA and you will not get moulded carpet sets and you will pay a fortune for re-upholstering by the likes of Southbound. Do not break or want to replace the rear hatch glass - you'll be staring down the barrel of over £5k for new. I know all this because I have been restoring one for the past few years. It was cheaper for me to buy a donor 944 than source a lot of the parts I needed, which is what I did. Have a look in the used 944 ads for sale - some with receipts exceeding £20k and selling for half that. That ^ white one is exceptional and rare because of it. Many are ropey. Buy one but go over it with a fine toothcomb because they are not really going up like other classic cars because bits are difficult to source and expensive (if they are available) which is and has been for the past 10 years, dampening the value of the 944. Best be a DIYer if you want one, especially if you intend to get OPC servicing and repair. The simplest, little job will cost you £200+ph plus VAT as opposed to indie prices a fraction of that.
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thanks Pinno for sharing this 👍🏼
I was going to add a like but there are 944 likes and it would be a pity to change that!
How much would you say the 944 will be worth in 5- 10 years?
my guess - more than todays values, its only a guess tho
up up up up
I hope it increases ! It’s going on display in the new Reading showroom soon
The Time was 10 years ago... plenty of cheap cars and good ones... parts were cheap to. Now its porsche classics and parts have horendous prices
I absolutely love the 944, had a turbo 220bhp and a 2.7 lux
I still want an S2 before I step up to a 911.
Great video ❤👍
Thanks! 👍
lol, have you tried to get parts for these heaps? if it isn't discontinued, it's dealer only. looooooool ya, no.
u are cheap lol
I will never sell my 2.7l automatic that I daily drive
i dont have any money
*Why can't people be honest about old cars?*
"it's no longer a fast car."
It's a slow car.
"It's a car that connects the driver directly to the control interface."
So does my lawn mower.
"for me, it replays a glorious analogue, one of the 1980s greatest hits"
I am trying to relive my youth like every other 60 year old.
If anyone wants to lend me £10 grand will get one tomorrow
Porsches were for millionaires before the 80s? You sure about that?
Don't do it. The car is a borderline antique. Parts are expensive and the knowledge base is dying off. The only people who should be buying 944's are collectors with money and race shops with fabrication skills.
lol u cant afford it. go drive your civic
@@SAMMYJR00777 actually, if not LS swap why not throw a k20 or k24 engine in it. Perfect spacing for that engine. Lots of space to tuck an intercooler. Decent space for a turbo kit or supercharger. After that a clean set of rims and coils. There you go a fun track car that no one would expect to pull up on em. Lol
stop making videos about it so i can still afford one in 5 years thx