I think the reason why he likes that green drawing so much, is because the result was better than the level he was at during the drawing of that piece, so he didn't expect that kind of result, and now has some attached feelings towards it, while now he have more expectations for himself, and therefore don't get as impressed by his results. The last comparison there though was mostly for the joke I think.
@@zefir813because you cant appreciate the details. This is not an insult btw, it's just how it is for art newbies. Just like how an orchestra newbie is not going to understand difference in timbre of different orchestras. How a casual radio listener is not going to appreciate SOPHIE. A well done science journal might as well look the same as made up bull shit to a common folk. It's about attention to detail. That's why it's so amazing when people dedicate their life to a craft when 99% of people will never understand the real intricacies of what they do.
@@tehkokhoe I am not an art newbie and I still find the green one better. Sure the technique is not as good and very not confident. But that one has better shape design, the color is nicer and overall aesthetically more pleasing (I mean of course it is, he had reference for that one). It takes more skill to make the new one from imagination, but that doesn't mean it is better.
16:28 Shes so right for me the best way to gauge my progress was taking an old drawing i liked and redoing it. It always showed me how much my mindset and skills changed.
I dont get how people shit on people for copying as a means of learning. Its like shitting on someone for playing twinkle twinkle on the violin and shittjng on someone for playing paganini's la campanella like theyre both the same and saying theyre still bad because they dont write original compositions. Everyone who copies literally uses what they learn in order to draw their orignal characters or their interpretation of novel characters.
I'll comment about that from two perspective: one from being an artist and one from being into combat sports. So for art it depends on what you mean with "a means of learning". If it's a means of learning to draw exactly the way as who you copy the it's great, if it's a means of learning how to draw anything then it can be, or will be, a detriment to your learning. I went to art school and was taught how to break down forms, analyse forms, etc and from there moving on to more complex tasks. It went pretty well because I had almost zero bagage with me, I hadn't really been drawing much before aside from some life drawing. I noticed this from other people as well. Then there were the "anime kids" who had for years been copying their favorite artists works and they struggled so hard because things those artists did had been ingrained in them so deeply it was hard for them to even notice when they did it. They were so deep in from years of copying manga that their eyes and brains were just fully honed in on just that. Going back to basics and understanding anatomy and shapes was so much harder for them because they didn't start from zero, they starded from -100. Some of them got through with pure tenacity and "unlearning", but most of them fell way behind by the third year. Again, if you're just copying because it's fun and you never intend to go anywhere else from there, then it's fine. From the perspective of combat sports it's if you perform a technique, even as simple as a jab or left hook, the wrong way and you keep on practicing it like that you will ingrain it into muscle memory (much like people do with art when copying). It sticks with people and getting rid of something like that can take years. The most extreme example is we had a dude in our gym who had read that silly quote from bruce lee "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times". He didn't realise that one kick was already done with the correct form. This guy had spent a good 2-3 years every day in his basement on a bag practicing kicks he saw bruce lee do, without supervision and thought himself a superman. Needless to say getting him as your sparring partner and holding mitts for the day was the day your session sucked.
the violinist comparison is not very apt as artists are literally creating something, while violinists play pre existing pieces unless they’re a composer themselves which most are not. basically im saying artists and violinists are two very different things
the part where daph mentioned fundamentals is so true and can be applied to things outside of the arts as well. if you don’t have a foundation for whatever you’re doing-be it art, cooking, or even learning a language-you’ll eventually stagnate your progress. of course, everyone retains information differently, though taking time to learn and refine skills will never hurt you as a person :-)
I think what made me agree w/ Pewdiepie on his old drawing is probably the reference he probably used and composition. Although from a technical standpoint, the artist eye will see it as sloppy and amateurish, I think a lot of untrained eyes like it because the subject's pose, angle, and hair are compositionally more dynamic. Even if he couldn't execute it well, he did enough that the non-artists notice less of the mistakes and more of the vision. Having said that, when I look at Day 365 again, where he likely used much less reference because of his greater skill, I think that it's Pewdipie's vision rather than technicals that made him not like it as much. The posing is just a straight profile, and the hair isn't as dynamic as the long flowing strands from before. I'm sure if he attempted a bolder composition he'd smash it with his current skill, but he's also seemingly trying to achieve much more now in a single piece (e.g. coloring, digital medium, shading, body, clothes etc.) than just a colored sketch.
Regardless of what you think about his skills, this series from PewDiePie is definitely an overall net positive. His growth gives people a direct example of how determination and consistent practice can make you better. Considering he didn’t know how to draw at all it’s impressive to see what he learned in a years time.
Nah, it's just one part of it, aka this is how YOU feel. It's not universal Those who hate their own work because they VISUALISE BETTER and KNOW it can be done, but it's not there yet exists as well So let's not talk about WE, shall we? Who's we? It's all you and me individually. Talking with one consciousness and speaking like everyone is the same is stupid
I believe the enjoyment of his older drawing is perhaps art style. despite it looking sloppy just the way it looks at least to me is very nice, the messy lines looks really good.
copying in art has a completely different meaning. it can be used for inspiration, reference, improvement, etc. the greatest artists have all “copied” before. it’s how they’ve gotten better
the most impressive thing about this is that he is accomplished and has everything and yet he made a conscious decision to improve his skills. and after a year? ONLY a year later? he really did amazing imo.
the part where she laughs at the proportions of switching to boys was when he was using BLAME as his reference, you can search up BLAME manga and you'll see the proportions are messed up purposely by the original artist
As an artist of 36 years..... this is fantastic growth and commitment! Yes, learning as your going isnt as easy as tracing obviously, it helps shape growth and sizes. I always tell people who ask me to teach them is practice with basic shape drawings like The Powerpuff Girls or Dexter's Laboratory or bugs bunny
i’ve never studied art but i got requested to be put in AP with juniors and seniors at the start of my sophomore year & have drawn my whole life; and personally i can see why people would like the green girl more. the other one is done better on a technical level, and looks pretty; but the green girl has so much more dynamic shapes, and just looks more interesting to the eye. one of the things i’ve always tried to tell myself with art; is that chasing perfection can make you hate the things you make.
grading your skill based on a piece of art is super flawed i feel, the nature of art is such that an amateur can create a masterpiece. I feel you have to seperate drawing skill and the art, its like grading the quality of a player in a video game from a clip, anyone can hit a good clip but that doesn't necessarily speak to the quality of the player.
that's a pretty good analogy. I mean the reality is that if you draw a piece without hands (or clothing folds, or complex hair, or whatever) it's going to be way easier. No hands looks better than bad or mediocre hands, even though making mediocre hands is far harder than none
Art is a skill like any other, it requires time and what many don't like to hear; effort. Yes, art requires discipline, to sit down and watch guides and to practice your acquired knowledge. A lot of people see art as just a leisure activity and treat it as such, never doing anything that feels 'boring' like learning.
you make art sound boring, it's all about perspective at the end of the day. Let people learn at their own pace, and enjoy. Overall, its perspective of one's goals and aspirations.
@@isaiah5465it's always "let people draw at their own pace" when nobody is insisting that. Everyone keeps fucking saying everyone learns at their own pace and they don't want to improve and learn but complain they suck and people are getting better than them. Everyone knows Everyone learns at different paces the thing people are saying is if you want to get good if you want to not be left in the dust you need to put in the hours you need to do the boring stuff if you want to do the fun stuff without even thinking about it
@@isaiah5465 What part of what i said makes art sound boring? Is it not a fact that art is a skill? As such, like any other skill is it not logical to expect that to improve you need to put in effort? Which by itself is not satisfactory; effort is not 'fun' by itself, but it is what leads to an effective learning, making the process satisfactory when put into practice. You can go at any pace you feel appropiate, but do not fall into the habit of slowing down your pace just to simply avoid effort.
@@Noizzed I agree with you. it's the same with music. yeah, playing tunes you like is fun. You can get good with just that, but it's slow for most people. A well structured learning plan will make people improve so much faster. I'm a guitar/bass player. I don't actually know why I have drawing stuff in my youtube feed lol. I don't even draw. Last time I draw was in college engineering drawing lol. Boring perspective stuff with a giant ruler. But somehow I watch all these drawing stuff. I should probably mark this as "not related to my hobby" lol.
I too at first thought the green one is the best he did, but then after seeing it over and over, I started to notice how weird it is. The eyes is the first one that caught my attention, the left one is bulging but the right one is just flat. The messy lines at first seems stylistic but then the smaller details become apparent and it just looks messy. I guess it's good in a glance, but I much prefer his last digital art than that green catgirl.
maybe it’s because I’m new to her content but is her criticism usually this much? I’m not trying to say she is because I’m in the process too of learning so I understand constructive criticism, but I can’t tell if she’s being like joking and sarcastic while giving real advice or just straight up a bit rude lmao. I can definitely see her points but at the end of the day it’s really all subjective. I like the green hair art he did and the last one, is it all perfect? No, but it doesn’t have to be to be liked. I’ve seen other artists who give advice or constructive criticism on other people’s art that get submitted for one and they’re usually not like this sooo😬 unless her community just jokes like that I wouldn’t know if she’s intentional like that or not
she draws for fun on stream. She's had plenty of backseaters trying to tell her what her art should look like, I'm pretty sure she's had plenty of critics on her side. If you've seen her streams you'd understand where shes coming from. She's fully aware that at the end of the day, criticisms dont mean shit and that theres gotta be somebody who should rip pewds asscheeks far apart and wont sugarcoat shit. Because at the end of the day, its pewdiepie and somebody has got to slap some sense into him to improve. Plus she was pretty far from ruthless
Sometimes I forget daph is also an artist xD Also I think the reason why he likes the green one that much is because it's the first time he saw progress and that drawing is in that soft spot :')
15:25 "better than average artist eye" made me laugh. You don't have a good eye for art. You are confusing art with technique. You may have a good eye for the technique but you really don't understand what art is. Art is an individualized expression which evokes emotions. An excellent execution of just the technique alone can result in a soulless output. You cannot question what drawing he likes because it is an individual personal feeling and that is what art is all about. He may have liked his older drawings not because it is good technically but because it evokes some emotions within him. It may have reminded him the effort and the sense of achievement he felt during that time when he created that drawing.
emotions does not tantamount to skill/experience. In her case, she is talking about skills in art, not sentimental value. When you are a beginner in art, you may have better sentimental value in your drawings, but to artist with years of experience and continuous drawing, you simply lack the skills that is worth years of drawing. She been drawing for decades and of course it's natural that she is able to question a beginner artist.
The newer drawing is technically better yes, but I hard disagree on it being more dynamic. Same with the full body one. Again, better technicality but way more static.
Once your skills developed you have that sixth sense of knowing what to do with how high the eyes or the mouth distances, drawing is all about practice and by observing A LOT and you will master it somehow
no. which is also why you should always protect your dominant hand as an artist unless you wanna spend more years training the other one. dont punch with it. dont use it to carry very heavy objects... etc. most important is shoulder > elbow > eye > wrist > fingers.
@@passbyicecube NO the eye is 100% more important. Humans write all the time as a kid for years and years ~ which is the bare minimum skills truly needed for art. The eye training is not always ingrained in us if you're just starting.
As an artist i agree with daph on pretty much every point, the full body one is definitely a lot better and the green one is very messy. Also beginner artists/non artists can't tell the difference between caterpillar/scratchy lines and intentional sketchy or stylised hatching. A lot of non artists will argue they like the style of scratchy lines when its not an intentional choice by the artist and just shows lack of skill and control. Sketchy linework will still look confident and intentional.
i’m an artist and it’s quite literally all about personal style at this point. but i will say, a lot of non artists will argue that takes like this; is why art graduates are seen as pretentious and self centered. art is supposed to be fun, but hey, more cal-art styles will be so much better.
@@sybill123ful Why is art supposed to be fun? Van Gogh's most famous artworks are drawn in the last two year of his life when suffering depression. Are you saying those are not proper art?
Blue lock is a good way to draw guys. And since there's characters that are both male and female looking like Rin and Chigiri and maybeee Shidou it's a good blend
the last one ,I guess its just the feeling he had when he drew that one. After a certain point of perfection, you tend to lose yourself. if we all were the same then there is no difference between you or me, the definition of his art might be in that piece.
I enjoyed listening to your commentary. I think you offered some good insights on how pewdiepie improved over the course of his journey by pointing out things that non-artists like myself would miss (e.g. lines looking in diff directions, the "caterpillar" lines for hair, still not sure what that means lol). I'm trying to learn how to draw, both physically and digitally, and I would love to be at his level someday. I too have dreams of making a manga one day, albeit it would be easier to just write a book 😅.
art knobs in general . Ppl just want attention tbh. I get it tho , when someone progresses faster than you even if the skill is below you you kinda want ot just gatekeep your level by any means.
when it looks fuzzy like a caterpillar and not stable solid confident lines, not like a *sketchy* art style - characteristically fuzzy and unsure looking (if that makes any sense)
@@applepi9747Am I weird for Low-key preferring those rough sketch vibes than clean lines. I understand that there's a difference between being a beginner resulting in the roughness, and intentionally doing it, but still
as someone who doesnt paint/draw this was so interesting to watch, makes me wonder if daph ever taught a class or anything bc she explains things so thoroughly
the biggest shock for me when I watched this was seeing pewds think that his 100 day was better than his 365 day. at 365, you can see SO much more of his personal style, the movement is strong, and his lines are clean and confident. The 100 day is pleasing to look at and striking at first, but the proportions are off and like you said, it looks like it was heavily referenced (not a bad thing, but his 360 day works are way better testament to his progress). The disparity between his skill level/time spent and his expectations for himself is something I think a lot of learning artists can relate to.
Doesn't really matter because art is subjective that's why he said it's "better" your average person doesn't care about caterpillar lines Is it pretty color? It look good And if he switched them you'd probably say the other one was "looser" and more "vibrant" Also, art without a context, just on a plain white sheet, it doesn't really...work? Like, in a different context that catgirl caterpillar art style could work if it was a single frame from a stylized opening or something, your skill level has nothing to with creating good art
Exactly what I was thinking. Sometimes, a master and a noob can create amazing drawings, what separates them is that of course the master knows the rules enough to break them, while the noob probably car crashed into a triple barrel roll or whatever. I'd still say skill has something to do with it, but in a way that it allows more agency for the artist.
when i hear people say 'the lines are clean', 'the flow is better', i feel like these are all just pointless empty things, because it's art, there is no tangible goal with art, if you are doing smth non-art related like mathematics or something else, there is a real goal and there are factors that objectively result towards that goal. But with art, anyone can like anything, some ppl genuinely prefer non-flowy lines and non-anatomically correct art. And these moments where artists think 'i have to have perfect anatomy' (even tho in real life anatomy varies and people can have crazy proportions etc), 'i have to have perfect line thickness' etc. only help you to go towards looking like all the other art in the world. It becomes formulaic, and this why you have so many overly clean art pieces that are technically perfect, but visually look dull.
I've been learning to draw since 2022 and like him I'm drawing every day... and since I'm in the same situation as him, I know that these drawings are copies, and I say that he's just making copies of anime girls' busts, he won't learn to draw and soon he'll have a "creative block" and won't be able to progress or draw anymore.
If you can tell him anything, tell him to don't bother polishing, I can't stand kid spending a lot of time polishing their shit and becoming stiff and can only copy art styles instead of devoloping their own.
I think the reason why he likes that green drawing so much, is because the result was better than the level he was at during the drawing of that piece, so he didn't expect that kind of result, and now has some attached feelings towards it, while now he have more expectations for himself, and therefore don't get as impressed by his results. The last comparison there though was mostly for the joke I think.
But then why i'm liking the green one more as well, i'm art noob if that that helps
@@zefir813because you cant appreciate the details. This is not an insult btw, it's just how it is for art newbies.
Just like how an orchestra newbie is not going to understand difference in timbre of different orchestras.
How a casual radio listener is not going to appreciate SOPHIE.
A well done science journal might as well look the same as made up bull shit to a common folk.
It's about attention to detail. That's why it's so amazing when people dedicate their life to a craft when 99% of people will never understand the real intricacies of what they do.
@@tehkokhoeart is subjective
@@jingleballs9935 This got to be the dumbest slogan that's been going for too long
@@tehkokhoe I am not an art newbie and I still find the green one better. Sure the technique is not as good and very not confident. But that one has better shape design, the color is nicer and overall aesthetically more pleasing (I mean of course it is, he had reference for that one). It takes more skill to make the new one from imagination, but that doesn't mean it is better.
16:28 Shes so right for me the best way to gauge my progress was taking an old drawing i liked and redoing it. It always showed me how much my mindset and skills changed.
I dont get how people shit on people for copying as a means of learning. Its like shitting on someone for playing twinkle twinkle on the violin and shittjng on someone for playing paganini's la campanella like theyre both the same and saying theyre still bad because they dont write original compositions.
Everyone who copies literally uses what they learn in order to draw their orignal characters or their interpretation of novel characters.
first you imitate, then you innovate - Miles Davis
I'll comment about that from two perspective: one from being an artist and one from being into combat sports.
So for art it depends on what you mean with "a means of learning". If it's a means of learning to draw exactly the way as who you copy the it's great, if it's a means of learning how to draw anything then it can be, or will be, a detriment to your learning.
I went to art school and was taught how to break down forms, analyse forms, etc and from there moving on to more complex tasks. It went pretty well because I had almost zero bagage with me, I hadn't really been drawing much before aside from some life drawing. I noticed this from other people as well. Then there were the "anime kids" who had for years been copying their favorite artists works and they struggled so hard because things those artists did had been ingrained in them so deeply it was hard for them to even notice when they did it. They were so deep in from years of copying manga that their eyes and brains were just fully honed in on just that. Going back to basics and understanding anatomy and shapes was so much harder for them because they didn't start from zero, they starded from -100.
Some of them got through with pure tenacity and "unlearning", but most of them fell way behind by the third year.
Again, if you're just copying because it's fun and you never intend to go anywhere else from there, then it's fine.
From the perspective of combat sports it's if you perform a technique, even as simple as a jab or left hook, the wrong way and you keep on practicing it like that you will ingrain it into muscle memory (much like people do with art when copying). It sticks with people and getting rid of something like that can take years. The most extreme example is we had a dude in our gym who had read that silly quote from bruce lee "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times". He didn't realise that one kick was already done with the correct form. This guy had spent a good 2-3 years every day in his basement on a bag practicing kicks he saw bruce lee do, without supervision and thought himself a superman. Needless to say getting him as your sparring partner and holding mitts for the day was the day your session sucked.
@@SpiritLakewth is thia shit
Damn imagine if people in coding were that high strung about people copying code.
the violinist comparison is not very apt as artists are literally creating something, while violinists play pre existing pieces unless they’re a composer themselves which most are not. basically im saying artists and violinists are two very different things
Good insight from the Dappa
There are more feelings attached to the 80 day one, that's why he likes it more
the part where daph mentioned fundamentals is so true and can be applied to things outside of the arts as well. if you don’t have a foundation for whatever you’re doing-be it art, cooking, or even learning a language-you’ll eventually stagnate your progress. of course, everyone retains information differently, though taking time to learn and refine skills will never hurt you as a person :-)
I think what made me agree w/ Pewdiepie on his old drawing is probably the reference he probably used and composition. Although from a technical standpoint, the artist eye will see it as sloppy and amateurish, I think a lot of untrained eyes like it because the subject's pose, angle, and hair are compositionally more dynamic. Even if he couldn't execute it well, he did enough that the non-artists notice less of the mistakes and more of the vision.
Having said that, when I look at Day 365 again, where he likely used much less reference because of his greater skill, I think that it's Pewdipie's vision rather than technicals that made him not like it as much. The posing is just a straight profile, and the hair isn't as dynamic as the long flowing strands from before. I'm sure if he attempted a bolder composition he'd smash it with his current skill, but he's also seemingly trying to achieve much more now in a single piece (e.g. coloring, digital medium, shading, body, clothes etc.) than just a colored sketch.
I thought that 80 day was part of the no ref portion?
Regardless of what you think about his skills, this series from PewDiePie is definitely an overall net positive. His growth gives people a direct example of how determination and consistent practice can make you better.
Considering he didn’t know how to draw at all it’s impressive to see what he learned in a years time.
it actually helped to my own art adventure 💀
Hating your own work comes from knowing you are inadequate to fix it/lacking the skills to execute it properly in the first place
If you love it=pretentious/arrogant
If you hate it=inadequate/ingenuous
@@kyogal8628 can never win
Nah I hate my art because it's not cracked. And if the art is cracked I still hate it because it took to long
This is nonsense.
Nah, it's just one part of it, aka this is how YOU feel. It's not universal
Those who hate their own work because they VISUALISE BETTER and KNOW it can be done, but it's not there yet exists as well
So let's not talk about WE, shall we? Who's we? It's all you and me individually. Talking with one consciousness and speaking like everyone is the same is stupid
most people who call themselves artists forget what subjectivity even means. opinions are not facts.
if you dont even draw why are you criticizing artists in general? you dont know shit lil bro. entitled
I believe the enjoyment of his older drawing is perhaps art style. despite it looking sloppy just the way it looks at least to me is very nice, the messy lines looks really good.
copying in art has a completely different meaning. it can be used for inspiration, reference, improvement, etc.
the greatest artists have all “copied” before. it’s how they’ve gotten better
the most impressive thing about this is that he is accomplished and has everything and yet he made a conscious decision to improve his skills. and after a year? ONLY a year later? he really did amazing imo.
He doesn't even take criticisms as hate or bad. They genuinely helped him to improve 😂
the part where she laughs at the proportions of switching to boys was when he was using BLAME as his reference, you can search up BLAME manga and you'll see the proportions are messed up purposely by the original artist
Learning starts with imitation. "Copying" others' art is not bad, when it's for the sake of practice.
As an artist of 36 years..... this is fantastic growth and commitment! Yes, learning as your going isnt as easy as tracing obviously, it helps shape growth and sizes. I always tell people who ask me to teach them is practice with basic shape drawings like The Powerpuff Girls or Dexter's Laboratory or bugs bunny
I like how daph goes into professional mode when it comes to art
i’ve never studied art but i got requested to be put in AP with juniors and seniors at the start of my sophomore year & have drawn my whole life; and personally i can see why people would like the green girl more. the other one is done better on a technical level, and looks pretty; but the green girl has so much more dynamic shapes, and just looks more interesting to the eye. one of the things i’ve always tried to tell myself with art; is that chasing perfection can make you hate the things you make.
grading your skill based on a piece of art is super flawed i feel, the nature of art is such that an amateur can create a masterpiece. I feel you have to seperate drawing skill and the art, its like grading the quality of a player in a video game from a clip, anyone can hit a good clip but that doesn't necessarily speak to the quality of the player.
that's a pretty good analogy. I mean the reality is that if you draw a piece without hands (or clothing folds, or complex hair, or whatever) it's going to be way easier. No hands looks better than bad or mediocre hands, even though making mediocre hands is far harder than none
Art is a skill like any other, it requires time and what many don't like to hear; effort. Yes, art requires discipline, to sit down and watch guides and to practice your acquired knowledge. A lot of people see art as just a leisure activity and treat it as such, never doing anything that feels 'boring' like learning.
you make art sound boring, it's all about perspective at the end of the day. Let people learn at their own pace, and enjoy. Overall, its perspective of one's goals and aspirations.
@@isaiah5465it's always "let people draw at their own pace" when nobody is insisting that. Everyone keeps fucking saying everyone learns at their own pace and they don't want to improve and learn but complain they suck and people are getting better than them. Everyone knows Everyone learns at different paces the thing people are saying is if you want to get good if you want to not be left in the dust you need to put in the hours you need to do the boring stuff if you want to do the fun stuff without even thinking about it
@@isaiah5465 What part of what i said makes art sound boring? Is it not a fact that art is a skill? As such, like any other skill is it not logical to expect that to improve you need to put in effort? Which by itself is not satisfactory; effort is not 'fun' by itself, but it is what leads to an effective learning, making the process satisfactory when put into practice.
You can go at any pace you feel appropiate, but do not fall into the habit of slowing down your pace just to simply avoid effort.
@@Noizzed I agree with you. it's the same with music. yeah, playing tunes you like is fun. You can get good with just that, but it's slow for most people. A well structured learning plan will make people improve so much faster. I'm a guitar/bass player.
I don't actually know why I have drawing stuff in my youtube feed lol. I don't even draw. Last time I draw was in college engineering drawing lol. Boring perspective stuff with a giant ruler. But somehow I watch all these drawing stuff. I should probably mark this as "not related to my hobby" lol.
what’s the vod for this video?
love the youtube slop content
This vid was not slop 😭
@ i'll show you slop little boy
@@squidge8768 yo????😭
@@squidge8768ah yee. Gimme the glock glock 3000
The sloppyseconds tm
He started drawing like one piece anime style and ended up becoming A+ tier drawing
I too at first thought the green one is the best he did, but then after seeing it over and over, I started to notice how weird it is. The eyes is the first one that caught my attention, the left one is bulging but the right one is just flat. The messy lines at first seems stylistic but then the smaller details become apparent and it just looks messy. I guess it's good in a glance, but I much prefer his last digital art than that green catgirl.
comments are insane i thought daph would call him slurs or something lmaooo
maybe it’s because I’m new to her content but is her criticism usually this much? I’m not trying to say she is because I’m in the process too of learning so I understand constructive criticism, but I can’t tell if she’s being like joking and sarcastic while giving real advice or just straight up a bit rude lmao. I can definitely see her points but at the end of the day it’s really all subjective. I like the green hair art he did and the last one, is it all perfect? No, but it doesn’t have to be to be liked. I’ve seen other artists who give advice or constructive criticism on other people’s art that get submitted for one and they’re usually not like this sooo😬 unless her community just jokes like that I wouldn’t know if she’s intentional like that or not
she draws for fun on stream. She's had plenty of backseaters trying to tell her what her art should look like, I'm pretty sure she's had plenty of critics on her side. If you've seen her streams you'd understand where shes coming from. She's fully aware that at the end of the day, criticisms dont mean shit and that theres gotta be somebody who should rip pewds asscheeks far apart and wont sugarcoat shit. Because at the end of the day, its pewdiepie and somebody has got to slap some sense into him to improve. Plus she was pretty far from ruthless
Sometimes I forget daph is also an artist xD
Also I think the reason why he likes the green one that much is because it's the first time he saw progress and that drawing is in that soft spot :')
15:25 "better than average artist eye" made me laugh. You don't have a good eye for art. You are confusing art with technique. You may have a good eye for the technique but you really don't understand what art is. Art is an individualized expression which evokes emotions. An excellent execution of just the technique alone can result in a soulless output. You cannot question what drawing he likes because it is an individual personal feeling and that is what art is all about. He may have liked his older drawings not because it is good technically but because it evokes some emotions within him. It may have reminded him the effort and the sense of achievement he felt during that time when he created that drawing.
emotions does not tantamount to skill/experience. In her case, she is talking about skills in art, not sentimental value. When you are a beginner in art, you may have better sentimental value in your drawings, but to artist with years of experience and continuous drawing, you simply lack the skills that is worth years of drawing. She been drawing for decades and of course it's natural that she is able to question a beginner artist.
The newer drawing is technically better yes, but I hard disagree on it being more dynamic. Same with the full body one. Again, better technicality but way more static.
Once your skills developed you have that sixth sense of knowing what to do with how high the eyes or the mouth distances, drawing is all about practice and by observing A LOT and you will master it somehow
train eye > train hand GOT IT
Wrong, both. Both are equally important.
No one said that.
no.
which is also why you should always protect your dominant hand as an artist unless you wanna spend more years training the other one.
dont punch with it. dont use it to carry very heavy objects... etc.
most important is shoulder > elbow > eye > wrist > fingers.
@@passbyicecube NO the eye is 100% more important. Humans write all the time as a kid for years and years ~ which is the bare minimum skills truly needed for art. The eye training is not always ingrained in us if you're just starting.
As an artist i agree with daph on pretty much every point, the full body one is definitely a lot better and the green one is very messy. Also beginner artists/non artists can't tell the difference between caterpillar/scratchy lines and intentional sketchy or stylised hatching. A lot of non artists will argue they like the style of scratchy lines when its not an intentional choice by the artist and just shows lack of skill and control. Sketchy linework will still look confident and intentional.
Also not using your arm and only using your wrist to draw will do that too
i’m an artist and it’s quite literally all about personal style at this point. but i will say, a lot of non artists will argue that takes like this; is why art graduates are seen as pretentious and self centered. art is supposed to be fun, but hey, more cal-art styles will be so much better.
@@sybill123ful Why is art supposed to be fun? Van Gogh's most famous artworks are drawn in the last two year of his life when suffering depression. Are you saying those are not proper art?
@@commenter4898That's the difference between a hobby and a job
My man went from a complete beginner to a beginner, one step at a time. Great progress for a year, i hope he keeps doing art.
15:10 syph spitting
I used to learn from drawing DB characters and Mark Crilley
Blue lock is a good way to draw guys. And since there's characters that are both male and female looking like Rin and Chigiri and maybeee Shidou it's a good blend
the last one ,I guess its just the feeling he had when he drew that one. After a certain point of perfection, you tend to lose yourself. if we all were the same then there is no difference between you or me, the definition of his art might be in that piece.
i think the old dapper is going back
And the new yapper got in
great - actual artist commentary
Where? Didn't she pretty much stop drawing lol
@@HuntedCupCake She literally has a drawing she is working on in the background the entire video
i too prefer the green one
I don't know why but Daph hair looks so shiny and soft
he should have just redrawn a better version of the green drawing using his improved skills
Idk why but I also liked the green one more, I'm shit at drawing tho
I enjoyed listening to your commentary. I think you offered some good insights on how pewdiepie improved over the course of his journey by pointing out things that non-artists like myself would miss (e.g. lines looking in diff directions, the "caterpillar" lines for hair, still not sure what that means lol). I'm trying to learn how to draw, both physically and digitally, and I would love to be at his level someday. I too have dreams of making a manga one day, albeit it would be easier to just write a book 😅.
Daph is just generational hater😂
Seriously though. It's pretty cringe 😅
art knobs in general . Ppl just want attention tbh. I get it tho , when someone progresses faster than you even if the skill is below you you kinda want ot just gatekeep your level by any means.
Someone please educate me what a caterpillar line is? Google doesnt help
To be fair, Blame! Main character sometimes looks wonky as fuck...
Granpa is back
what does daph mean by caterpillar lines? (buh)
the really fluffy sketchy lineart, it's usually indicative of a newer artist because they're not confident in their line work
when it looks fuzzy like a caterpillar and not stable solid confident lines, not like a *sketchy* art style - characteristically fuzzy and unsure looking (if that makes any sense)
Then lines are "scratchy". Instead of drawing a line with a single stroke, Pewds did it by "scratching" a lot of lines to make a single line.
It means different directions and different line thicknesses.
@@applepi9747Am I weird for Low-key preferring those rough sketch vibes than clean lines. I understand that there's a difference between being a beginner resulting in the roughness, and intentionally doing it, but still
good daph video. i like
5:28 frieren
If he is bored draw same thing he should study fantasy artist like frank frazetta or study from george bridgman
I actually like the green one better. The last one is too "digital and perfect".
Green girl looks like she has a story
Did she go to school for art? I never knew that
Clean does not mean better
the goat
You r not showing your art to other artist you're showing to everyone. And i agree the green one is better.
as someone who doesnt paint/draw this was so interesting to watch, makes me wonder if daph ever taught a class or anything bc she explains things so thoroughly
Daph would be a great tutor i feel.
the biggest shock for me when I watched this was seeing pewds think that his 100 day was better than his 365 day. at 365, you can see SO much more of his personal style, the movement is strong, and his lines are clean and confident. The 100 day is pleasing to look at and striking at first, but the proportions are off and like you said, it looks like it was heavily referenced (not a bad thing, but his 360 day works are way better testament to his progress). The disparity between his skill level/time spent and his expectations for himself is something I think a lot of learning artists can relate to.
Doesn't really matter because art is subjective that's why he said it's "better" your average person doesn't care about caterpillar lines
Is it pretty color? It look good
And if he switched them you'd probably say the other one was "looser" and more "vibrant"
Also, art without a context, just on a plain white sheet, it doesn't really...work? Like, in a different context that catgirl caterpillar art style could work if it was a single frame from a stylized opening or something, your skill level has nothing to with creating good art
Exactly what I was thinking. Sometimes, a master and a noob can create amazing drawings, what separates them is that of course the master knows the rules enough to break them, while the noob probably car crashed into a triple barrel roll or whatever. I'd still say skill has something to do with it, but in a way that it allows more agency for the artist.
It's fun seeing all the new comments that spawn every day, very entertaining
9:09 - Preach it!
Does she have an art channel?
she basically stopped drawing
Green girl is the hotter one 😊
when i hear people say 'the lines are clean', 'the flow is better', i feel like these are all just pointless empty things, because it's art, there is no tangible goal with art, if you are doing smth non-art related like mathematics or something else, there is a real goal and there are factors that objectively result towards that goal. But with art, anyone can like anything, some ppl genuinely prefer non-flowy lines and non-anatomically correct art. And these moments where artists think 'i have to have perfect anatomy' (even tho in real life anatomy varies and people can have crazy proportions etc), 'i have to have perfect line thickness' etc. only help you to go towards looking like all the other art in the world. It becomes formulaic, and this why you have so many overly clean art pieces that are technically perfect, but visually look dull.
algorithm
Hello 39daph too
Daph is going through reverse puberty 😂?! ...or did she kick her smoking habit?
We need real yt videos :(
Oh lord this thing yaps soo much😂
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I've been learning to draw since 2022 and like him I'm drawing every day... and since I'm in the same situation as him, I know that these drawings are copies, and I say that he's just making copies of anime girls' busts, he won't learn to draw and soon he'll have a "creative block" and won't be able to progress or draw anymore.
tell me youre stupid without telling me youre stupid
Just cause u went through it doesn't mean others will :)
Bruhh stop skipping
just go watch the original video bruh
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If you can tell him anything, tell him to don't bother polishing, I can't stand kid spending a lot of time polishing their shit and becoming stiff and can only copy art styles instead of devoloping their own.
She love yapping man react to the video
The yapping IS reacting?
I guess she got a degree in Yappanese
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