Doubt it remember Goku was roughly equal with Gohan as a Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 is a times 2 multiplier Goku tapped into times 10 on top of Super Saiyan.
One of the most awesomeness things I've ever seen in my life. If Goku were to go Kaioken X 10 as a Super Saiyan, he would be stronger than Super Saiyan 3.
@@ishmaelpierson7681 oh if we are talking about actual transformations and not goku himslef yeah surely. But I don’t think this goku for example can do much against ssj3 goku from the Buu Saga (obviously)
Mas a verdade é que o goku tinha poder ali pra desaparecer com o cell ali a questão é que o Kaioken caiu no esquecimento após a saga frezza. O controle perfeito de ki que o goku tinha com o ssj full power era perfeitamente possível dele usar o Kaioken pelo menos umas 3 vezes aumentado.
And just like that......Son Goku did what his son couldn't........took Cell out in a single shot.......and no Super Perfect Cell.......Shame he died.......And no SSJ2 Gohan.....
The only problem is, what if Cell knew the kaioken? As we know, Dr.Gero's device was destroyed during saiyan attack, but we don't know exactly when. But I'm positive it was destroyed before Goku used the kaioken. that is, because otherwise, Cell would have known the kaioken, and knowing how smart he is, he wouldn't have forgotten it. But he didn't use it against Gohan. Which means he couldn't use it. Therefore, this scenario is valid.
Powerscaling incoming: So as we know base kaioken is a x2 increase so with just a base super kaioken goku already had the power of ssj2...but then when he did a kaioken x10...he had officially surpassed a ssj3...lemme explain. Super saiyan is 50x ssj2 100x, and ssj3 is 400x. If we look at these multiplier then ssj2 is a 2x increase...then ssj3 is a 4x increase from ssj2...but if you're in regular ssj then it would become an 8x increase...so I'm theory a hypothetical super kaioken times 10 would surpass a ssj3 Overall good video👍
Maybe there can be a what if leading to ssg either vegito or gogeta against zamasu or maybe a continuation of this what if with goku master super kaioken and even gaining ssj2 and training to master it so it doesn’t become a strain
@@Userkeiz8 why though? if goku was roughly the same level as gohan, who wiped the floor with cell as a ssj2 (which is 2x ssj) then kaioken times 10 ssj would actually be overkill.
@@grgamer8470 Nah, do the math, a SSJ in Kaioken ×10 is actually stronger than SSJ3 SSJ ×50 SSJ2 ×100 SSJ3 ×400 So SSJ ×50 Kaioken ×10 > Gohan SSJ2 by far
I never understood why he didnt use the kaioken. Like he mastered ssj to the point he had no stamina loss and use it as a base form. Yea sure it would put a strain on Goku but that doesnt make it impossible to use on important fights. I understand that he would be too strong after being able to use a x10 kaioken but damn they nerfed Goku on that one.
What could have happened if gohan failed and it could have worked at this point in this cuz he master super saiyan to the point where it's now his base form
I doubt that Super Kaioken would be enough to defeat him but that's a great scenario plus Super Kaioken in your video looks insane when compared it with the Super Saiyan God.
Realistically I don't think he could have kept any level of kaioken without dying inmediately,even during the pikkon fight he could use it only for a few seconds and he was already dead,if he tried it while being alive he would have just died.
Even though this fight is kind of amazing, Goku would still lose. Super Kaioken is nowhere near the same level as super Saiyan 2 Gohan. But it was still entertaining though.
@@-ayoshattah-ilya14ans70 no dude, you did the math wrong. Grade 4's multiplier is not 50 times its 500 times. If you never heard of the Manga Legendario, then I'm sad for you, cuz it was stated that grade 3's multiplier is 10 times stronger than that of grade 1. And another guidebook known as GT La Revista guidebook stated that grade 4 is equal to or greater than 3. In conclusion, 500 * 2, lowballed. Because we don't know how far Goku was using super kaioken. The reason why you got it wrong is because Goku is not using grade one when he's fighting sell he's fighting him with grade four both of them mastered super Saiyan at the Cell games.
Cell would win because he would outlast Goku. Kaioken strains the body and drains the energy very quickly. We see that with Him vs Pikkon, A fighter stronger than Super Perfect Cell.
Sadly, this would’ve never cell would’ve knew what he was going to do. I know this is a What If and What If has mini speculations, but I don’t think this technique would’ve been enough even if he did use times cell would’ve came back.
@@coptartarcade1315 again what if have missed many possibilities but this one particularly would not probably happen because due to him having all of their cells
![Beerus vs Black Frieza! [What-if] The Strongest God vs The Strongest Mortal!](/img/1.gif)
*Five minutes later*
Super Perfect Cell enters the battle with x10 Kaioken
Doubt it remember Goku was roughly equal with Gohan as a Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 is a times 2 multiplier Goku tapped into times 10 on top of Super Saiyan.
@@adambump5297 yeah that kamehameha would obliterate cell at his best
That’s a cool what if. I love how Goku wasted no time, because as we saw in Dragon Ball Super after Hit, Goku had an energy disorder for a while.
One of the most awesomeness things I've ever seen in my life. If Goku were to go Kaioken X 10 as a Super Saiyan, he would be stronger than Super Saiyan 3.
BRO NO💀
@@ZekroblueI mean he’s right, but his body would rip itself apart in a fraction of a second from the strain 😅
@@Zekroblueyes he would actually cause ssj3 is x4 ssj2 and x8 ssj so a x10 super kaioken goku would ve stronger than ssj3
@@ishmaelpierson7681 oh if we are talking about actual transformations and not goku himslef yeah surely. But I don’t think this goku for example can do much against ssj3 goku from the Buu Saga (obviously)
Not really, Goku Super Saiyan from Cell Games would need a Kaioken X30 to match or surpase to the Goku Super Saiyan 3 from the Buu Saga. Yeah.
Super Kaioken
That’s sick
Mas a verdade é que o goku tinha poder ali pra desaparecer com o cell ali a questão é que o Kaioken caiu no esquecimento após a saga frezza.
O controle perfeito de ki que o goku tinha com o ssj full power era perfeitamente possível dele usar o Kaioken pelo menos umas 3 vezes aumentado.
I agreed
@@matheusponte4596I mean he didn't use kaioken because gohan had to "let it out"
This is me holding out hope that sparking zero will add this form in dlc
The production value is improving keep it up 👍🏽
I definitely agree with shadow Goku this one
somehow i think Stephky has watched Risingfist
I watched some of his vids such as old man Goku and destroyer Vegeta. He's the goat!
Awesome video as always
Thanks!
Are you able to 3d animate like torrinsol in his gogeta vs vegito series?
He would've done it if he could ya know
Sadly no, but I'm trying to learn 2d animation
@@Steph_ky baby steps i guess
Ooh! Can't wait to watch this
Bro keep making these so that when SPARKING ZERO comes out you make these over
Up
Piccolo knows about the kaioken
Namek
And just like that......Son Goku did what his son couldn't........took Cell out in a single shot.......and no Super Perfect Cell.......Shame he died.......And no SSJ2 Gohan.....
Super Kaioken Times 10 should be able to keep up with Super Saiyan 3, so that's fair
It would be stronger than the ssj3 transformation
Dude! Cograts!
I felt Cell's agony!
This is hard af 🔥🔥🐐 can you make some on sparkling zero ?
Glad to see goku finally listened,but at the cost of his life
Bro would've essentially gone SSJ3 in the Cell Saga if he used it to THAT extent. Utterly insane but amazing.
Impressive video as always
2:26
ssj goku: KAIOKEN
That was awesome can’t wait for an episode like that again bro keep up the great work am definitely not missing out on another video like this one ❤
Great edit
Amazing fight!
This video was amazing bro keep up the good work 👍
Thank you!
Ssbkk x10 20 can longer then Goku still alive
Amazing
That would be cool if they added this in series
They did in the otherworld tournament
@@bradleykelly7705 But that wasn,t cannon
He actually did, its clear how does the gesture and everything turns red, at least in the anime
I wished that you used OG DBZ better then Kai thou, but nonetheless great video 👍
Bro is def gonna make this in sparking zero with the create ur own what if 😭
The only problem is, what if Cell knew the kaioken? As we know, Dr.Gero's device was destroyed during saiyan attack, but we don't know exactly when. But I'm positive it was destroyed before Goku used the kaioken. that is, because otherwise, Cell would have known the kaioken, and knowing how smart he is, he wouldn't have forgotten it. But he didn't use it against Gohan. Which means he couldn't use it. Therefore, this scenario is valid.
Where on earth are you getting these goated mods!?
💯🔥amazing
Powerscaling incoming:
So as we know base kaioken is a x2 increase so with just a base super kaioken goku already had the power of ssj2...but then when he did a kaioken x10...he had officially surpassed a ssj3...lemme explain. Super saiyan is 50x ssj2 100x, and ssj3 is 400x. If we look at these multiplier then ssj2 is a 2x increase...then ssj3 is a 4x increase from ssj2...but if you're in regular ssj then it would become an 8x increase...so I'm theory a hypothetical super kaioken times 10 would surpass a ssj3
Overall good video👍
Exactly and by far
@@-ayoshattah-ilya14ans70 imagine if he did a kaioken ssj3☠️
@@UltimateGoji2024 I feel like SSJ3 Kaioken would not even last 10 seconds
Maybe there can be a what if leading to ssg either vegito or gogeta against zamasu or maybe a continuation of this what if with goku master super kaioken and even gaining ssj2 and training to master it so it doesn’t become a strain
I wonder what would be the reaction of vegeta at this state
Hi Bro! I subscribed your channel. I love your xv2 mods. I want goku ikari mod. Please can you provide link.
I really like your mods
Wonder if he could won with Kioken super Saiyan
or even false super saiyan
With kaioken it would be a close one
@@adrianhill8203False supersayan is a × 40 multiplier
@@Userkeiz8 why though? if goku was roughly the same level as gohan, who wiped the floor with cell as a ssj2 (which is 2x ssj) then kaioken times 10 ssj would actually be overkill.
@@tarikchadili9696 I'm talking about supersayan + kaioken × 2
Goku didn't die I guess even though he used super kaioken against cell he just got fainted after that
Super saiyan 2 gohan adult vs super kaioken x 10 Goku? Who would win?
Kaioken has a time limiter. So Gohan.
@@grgamer8470 Nah, do the math, a SSJ in Kaioken ×10 is actually stronger than SSJ3
SSJ ×50
SSJ2 ×100
SSJ3 ×400
So SSJ ×50 Kaioken ×10 > Gohan SSJ2 by far
@@-ayoshattah-ilya14ans70 how about super saiyan 4 adult Goku vs beast gohan?
Goku easy 😂
Kiaoken is just so cool
hoping this can be a what if scenario in sparkling zero
But wouldn't Cell have Kaioken as well?
Exactly what i'm saying. His regen would render any damage done by Kaioken null.
One word death 💀
Yow bro can't u do a series of something differnent with dragon ball
real answer: he would explode instantly
I mean, you can technically go super kaioken if you use chrome Goku, and out in Kaioken Assult, in super Saiyan form😭
I never understood why he didnt use the kaioken. Like he mastered ssj to the point he had no stamina loss and use it as a base form. Yea sure it would put a strain on Goku but that doesnt make it impossible to use on important fights. I understand that he would be too strong after being able to use a x10 kaioken but damn they nerfed Goku on that one.
Would Kaioken work better on Mastered SSJ?
I wish goku use Ken to train more he would be way stronger than what he is now
I thought it's an animation, but it's just a game
What could have happened if gohan failed and it could have worked at this point in this cuz he master super saiyan to the point where it's now his base form
Where you get these mods
Cell was hiding his full power remember when he powers up against SS2 Gohan and then gohan pinches him in the stomach
I doubt that Super Kaioken would be enough to defeat him but that's a great scenario plus Super Kaioken in your video looks insane when compared it with the Super Saiyan God.
goku didnt need to use all of that, just regular kaioken would be enough
Realistically I don't think he could have kept any level of kaioken without dying inmediately,even during the pikkon fight he could use it only for a few seconds and he was already dead,if he tried it while being alive he would have just died.
Did Goku die in the end or did he just pass out due to the strain of using Kaioken x10 with SS
He died
How was this made??
Goku was pummeling cell
SUPER KAIOKEN TIMES 40!!
If Ssb can use kk why ssj kk make te user died?
El sparking zero hace un what if de goku ssj vs vegeta en la saga saiyan
Este canal: demasiado lento
Next time put the voices
Yo
Yo!
Goku would’ve won
No doubt about it
Goku was beating him with the spam ki blast
Wouldn’t times two be enough
Goku mod link plz
Even though this fight is kind of amazing, Goku would still lose. Super Kaioken is nowhere near the same level as super Saiyan 2 Gohan. But it was still entertaining though.
No you're wrong, just do the math.
×50 ×10 is stronger than ×200
He would mop the floor with Cell in like less than 10 seconds.
Super Kaioken x2 is just Gohan SSJ2 but without the rage boost
@@-ayoshattah-ilya14ans70 no dude, you did the math wrong.
Grade 4's multiplier is not 50 times its 500 times.
If you never heard of the Manga Legendario, then I'm sad for you, cuz it was stated that grade 3's multiplier is 10 times stronger than that of grade 1.
And another guidebook known as GT La Revista guidebook stated that grade 4 is equal to or greater than 3.
In conclusion, 500 * 2, lowballed.
Because we don't know how far Goku was using super kaioken.
The reason why you got it wrong is because Goku is not using grade one when he's fighting sell he's fighting him with grade four both of them mastered super Saiyan at the Cell games.
@@shephardburnout3 that depends on the multiplier.
Cell would win because he would outlast Goku. Kaioken strains the body and drains the energy very quickly. We see that with Him vs Pikkon, A fighter stronger than Super Perfect Cell.
lol Goku is in ssj2
Cell would also have kaioken
You know, that's a good point, this mf learn instant transmission just after he witnessed it one or tout times
I don't think he would live long enough to use it
You know cell can't because of Goku's Super Kaioken Is too fast to attack him
Yes he can use it but Cell wouldn't do a kamikaze attack like Goku...
What about dragon ball taiyou???
Sadly, this would’ve never cell would’ve knew what he was going to do. I know this is a What If and What If has mini speculations, but I don’t think this technique would’ve been enough even if he did use times cell would’ve came back.
Although I agree cell wouldn't fall for this, I doubt he'd survive a full power Kamehameha that's almost as strong as 5 super saiyan 2 gohan's
@@coptartarcade1315 again what if have missed many possibilities but this one particularly would not probably happen because due to him having all of their cells
Second
A ssj2 but not stronger than ssj3