I've watched this 4 times and shown it to multiple people. I'm working to acquire land and farm using Dr. Johnson's methods. Watch it a second time. There are so many revelations
I farm 1500 acres in western Oklahoma and am at the beginning stages of planning to implement these practices. This is one of the most informative presentations I’ve heard yet. I have Crohn’s disease too and he mentioned something as a cure I’m going to look more into and consider before I get on pharmaceuticals in a couple months to control it
Ya I remember a video of a professor in Wyoming getting crohnes disease from tranquilizing big horn sheep. He talked about how he tried native plants for years and finally healed enough to go back to work. I forgot the name of the guy and video but I still remember watching it from like two years ago.
I did an experiment in a raised garden bed very similar to this. In October the bags of organic compost I had used the first year had reduced to a quarter of what they were so I added sticks and broken branches, leaves, a couple pans of bunny manure, some cow manure from my neighbors cow, a bag of leaves and some of my kitchen scraps. This is a four ft by two ft bed. I put a soaker hose through it and covered it with black plastic, and left it till march. I planted it with parsley, some green onion bottoms from my kitchen scraps and two cucumber plants. That year I preserved 10 quart jars of pickles and can’t remember how many we ate fresh, the green onions are still producing, as I cut and come again and they are four times the size they were when I bought them from the supermarket, and the parsley plant produced as a huge bush for the entire year stubbornly taking up a quarter of the container fighting with the cucumber which eventually sprawled into the play area and took over part of my childrens fort. The parsley plant has finally gone to seed and stands at five feet in height with over 50 seed heads. The only other thing I’ve done to it was the add more leaves and pine shavings to the top.
This is revolutionary research, and much needed, solid data. I've got to say though, I haven't seen worse audience participation since John Wilkes Booth went to see a play.
Por el minuto 34:30... "Estamos enfocados en lograr plantas que se adapten a los suelos pobres, cuando deberíamos más bien enfocarnos en hallar el modo de lograr suelos más ricos". Esa es la prédica de Ernst Gotsch, el fundador de la Agricultura Sintropica en el Brasil.
Hi Hshsj, This 'modern' approach to saving the land and saving our food supply has been in practice for centuries on all continents. With the negative impact of COVID19 when many are leaving big cities, planting in the traditional way is one means of self-sufficiency that I am pursuing.
I had no interest in having to wait a year to get compost and have been watching the "compost in 18 days" type videos. Then I watched THIS video and can't wait to start a proper compost bin. However, I am just starting my garden this year (never gardened before) and will only have 24 sq ft of garden space. So I'm going to start with a couple of the trashcan sized versions I stumbled across. Now I just need to find a video that explains what to fill the system with and hope I have access to the materials. I'm in an urban area, so if it takes manure, I'll have to do some searching. I do hope WAY more farmers SEE this info and jump on board! It's clear our commercial farming lands are rather broken. And I'd love to get back to having food from the store that has not only some flavor (which is currently lacking), but that tastes GOOD! The current generations have no idea what they are missing in flavor!
Think about applying an aerated compost tea. Pick up some good soil from a local wild space and use a couple handfuls of that in a tea to incorporate a more diverse fungal base in your garden until your compost pile is ready
In the presentation David showed that the feedstock doesn't really matter (as long as it is clean of toxins)...you still will end up with a diverse microbiology.
Wow! When I am learning something and my understanding is increasing, and my fingertips begin to tingle, I know that this is big important information! Thank you! With that said, it is best to have students save questions until after the lecture.
Extraordinaria exposición en verdad, una completa correlación entre la evolución de la vida y los cambios que produjeron en nuestro mundo! Y la relación entre la vida y la nutrición, como la relación que hay que investigar entre el Selenio y las tres extinciones de la vida en el planeta para las cuales no hay explicación hasta ahora. Si alguna vez alcanzamos un planeta en el cual aún no haya surgido la vida ya sabemos que hacer para terraformarlo, inocularle con una diversidad de especies de bacterias, hongos, protozoos, invertebrados, etcétera.
Wow, this is an *IMPRESSIVE* lecture...I'm gonna have to view it several time to take it all in and understand the implications...Thank you Dr Johnson!
I’ve always concentrated on the trace elements by using wood chip composting and not disturbing the soil too much. I found it interesting that extinctions of microbes are happening in the gut by the removal of fibre that are not replaced by retuning fibre.
Fascinating presentation. I'm living on a ranch of 500 hectares in Jalisco... We don't want to farm the land, but if we can find ways to inject fertility into the soil, that would allow us to spread pockets of food plants all over. That would allow us to live off the land
I have 30 acres of desert sand in La Mesa NM. I’m going to build a modified design of the bioreactor compost tower. I’m excited to naturally improve my soil!!!
Hi SW, Please look into and try planting sweet potatoes in sandy soil, which has been proven in Asia to be suitable, better than in other types of soils.
Dude, don't let the JS Bioreactor freeze. It is a big stand-up worm bin. You may have to build it under cover and/or provide supplemental heat depending on your winter temps. I wish he would have been clear in that from the outset. I had two piles freeze in zone 5.
This meshes perfectly with the work and teaching John Kempf is doing. I'd love to see a large scale system so I'd have an idea how to build something for our 60 dairy cows to take better advantage of the winter bedding.
It's John Kempf's system but with a non-desiccated inoculum and no mineral foliar. I'm sure if you replaced John kempf's "spectrum" inoculum with JS compost and used mineral foliars you could accelerate the soil building even further.
John Kempf’s soil primer is spectrum soil biological inoculant, AEAs rejuvenate( molasses with enzymes and enzyme cofactors), and AEAs seasheild which is a liquified shrimp and crab shell ( high is chitin and calcium which stimulates soil fungi.) you can try finding the recommendations on johns blog at JohnKempf.com the AEA RUclips channels, or go to AEAs website and give them a call and ask about the soil primer recommendations.
It seems to me that John Kempf is heavily invested into marketing of innoculant products...whereas this Johnson-Su system is open source and available for anyone to produce their own innoculant.
This is amazing and highly underrated. Frustrating as well, when we think about how slow the systems are we humans build up in adapting to change. How long will it take, to change habits of conventional agriculture that have there origin in our society structure, where fast benefit and greed are the decision makers? And i wonder if we humans as a species have the time for a slow Transition towards a regenerative agriculture? Do we still have the time? This is not just a farmers problem, its a social problem, a Fundamental problem of our society of the systems we live in. This transition has to be fast in my opinion, or the response we get from nature will be to hard for us to overcome as a species.
Hi Alex, When people around me are not so keen on adaptation, I make my move away from a big city since I am close to retirement. At least 5 families heard about my plan to go back to the land and they are following my line of thoughts. This is quite responsible from my perspective.
Your right but farmers are fairly quick to make adjustments in their practices if it can be shown that its will be profitable to them. I've never known a farmer who didn't want to do what was right for their land and they don't plant the expensive GMO seed and use the expensive chemicals because the want to but they have to make a living.
I have been using mixed wood chips and leaves to make compost for 10 years my vegetables trees and flowers are very robust. I’ve given small identical plants to my neighbouring plot holders and have directly seen the difference in growth.
The quote 'Align yourself with Nature' comes from an ancient Chinese book of philosophy 'Tao Te Ching' (in current Chinese romanization 'Dao De Jing' 道德經); author: Lao Zi (老子).' The Classic Book of Integrity and the Way/ Way and Virtue', dates back to approx. 300 B.C., is about how humans are related to nature and fortune/misfortune and 'It is advisable to get along with creation and nature'. Hence Align yourself with Nature. Source: regular high school curriculum in Taiwan and Hong Kong, Wikipedia....
I just stumbled upon this lecture, thank you for putting this interesting and informative lecture out here. I enjoyed it very much and it did help to put things into context. But there is one thing I really do wonder about. it seems like people mix their compost in the perfect ratio once- and that`s it, nothing more get added. depending on system you either turn or use your genious tubes with holes idea... How do you do this in a little garden with not so much space to open a new compost all the time? isn` t composting about adding stuff as it happens? I save the brown stuff from autumn and then add the green together with the brown all throughout season as it happens? And then mine gets hot so I turn and mix it all together. The result is that early added things are finished months before the last stuff gets added, yet it still gets all mixed together as I turn should it go to hot or develop any smells. I don`t know if this gives a good result, but this is somehow how the material flow happens. little gardens don`t have the space for multiple bay systems or many once erected piles that you mix once and close off and start a new one and store all that material until you have enough for a new one. I am a bit worried now that my compost is not good because it got added to and old "finished" material got mixed with new material throughout one whole season. It makes it also hard to get the one point in time of maturation when it is full of life. different stages all in one box. but I don`t know how to logistically do it differently.
Don't panic. A good compost can take 12 months for the worms to process. Just a new pile next door and they migrate into the new pile. Watch some nutrisoil and nicole masters vids on vermiculture
Welcome to the world of composting my friend enjoy the journey👍 set up a second pile if you can it will help manage new and old material. Even In a small garden you probably won’t produce enough waste material because obviously some of it gets used up in the production of growing. Try different techniques to convert the waste you have into a “balanced” mix of compost. Once you’ve discovered you can process this waste quickly (using various techniques, try hot composting) you soon begin to realise you need more material. I save most organic material and acquire waste from others. Start thinking of material as green(nitrogen) and browns(carbon) 2parts green : 1part brown is a good ratio, you soon start putting in material that you wouldn’t normally compost. Have a look into carbon:nitrogen values. Get your moisture content right and add air (turn)to increase heat if needed. Experiment and start visualising the amount of “life” (more microbes = faster processing) that is actually happening in that mundane pile of waste in your garden it almost opens up a whole new world of discovery and you can go to bed at night all warm and happy knowing you are having a positive influence on this planet of ours. Have fun 👍😂. Get your composting environment right and the microbiological activity will do a ton of work for you 👍 I use two plastic compost bins in a small garden and my concerns are not the space they take up but how much can I process through them and how quickly(managing your material). Composting is the engine room of any garden - I give up growing space for them. It’s important to distinguish between the different techniques and the different biological processes that are used in composting.
Boy you aren’t kidding! But it will be a huge fight for those who do not know or want truth! Big pharma and big Agriculture business sell their chemicals that bring death, destruction and deception! They go hand and hand and truth is not welcome by godless people.
@@droqueplot I am a godless person, but I still want to be a good steward of the earth, to extract enough food from the land while ensuring that I can do the same next year and the year after that. With climate change making more of the land on this earth less agriculturally productive, less rain, more topsoil erosion, etc, and with more population living with a higher quality of living everyday, we need better and more sustainable solutions to feeding everyone. I think you are wrong with your accusations of people, godless, farmers, etc. I believe everyone is trying to make a living, to do the best they can do within the constraints of putting food on the table and paying the bills. They see commercial fertilizers as the only way to do that. It takes a great deal of proof to change people's minds. This presentation was a good first step, but sometimes people need to see it themselves. That takes time, that takes a small trial on your land, that is a years long process, much like the research being done takes 5 years before definitive results.
Wow this is great learning! Such important teachings to understand and act on! Praying for a called people to move into action on these revelations! 🙏🏼 I can only hope to be used in some way in Gods wonderful plan for this earth!
This is a brilliant and revolutionary agricultural system that finds harmony with nature. God is awesomely smart and superbly creative designing our soil microbiology and biodiversity which affects animals' microbiome and ultimately our human health including our environment.
At 24:10 Dr. Johnson shows a slide it shows fungal relationship ratios. The first two on the graph our clearly using his compost. One says "90512 Compost 5 Months" the next just "90512 Compost". What exactly does that mean. This compost ages 1 year before application so what does the 5 month annotation mean?
So I accidentally discovered static pile fungal composting, what I do is pile up bunch of grass and other materials, but the grass is the important structural component because I stab it with a stick and twist it all up like one would twist spaghetti with a fork. Then I continuously twist and pull it and it will heat up once and then I'll twist again and I'll do that a few times and then I'll just leave it. It works great. If you want it all to compost good it's best to make the rope in a small diameter or otherwise twist it multiple times from the middle of the rope after it heats up and cools down. If it's too thick the stuff on the inside does not get wetted
And it grows is the cool part, as you pull and twist the compost outwards, adding new material while doing so, it turns into a bed, the "compost ropes" act like stolons. I've been throwing all kinds of seeds at it. This experiment started when I was just trying to mulch around my River cane that was struggling and now it's turning into a veritable garden that expands, I can't wait to see how things emerge next year when the river cane starts taking off and the sunny part will be a deep mulch compost bed. Also it has I'm guessing hundreds of species of macroarthropods living in it, I imagine the rich and diverse effraf will make some very high quality soil. I also turn the Earth underneath it while adding soil to inoculate the compost the ducks and the moles and gophers do the same, I think the burrowing animals do more good than harm as long as they have something to eat that isn't your crop
Now what I'm very interested in doing is automating the task and figuring out how to optimize the structure and the process, I'm thinking about simple mechanical implements that can be fitted to the specific context to twist the ropes and put it all together which can be constructed out of things as simple as ropes and sticks and maybe pulleys or winches even (I'm thinking about using two sticks as a winch) also covering it helps but I wouldn't leave it completely covered because you want the fauna to be able to use the pile and I think having exsposed parts of it go through wet dry cycles might actually increase diversity
I own a "pest control company" here in Florida and this is how I try to run my business. Building soil out of sand. Less fertilizer and chemical inputs by probably 75%, less bad fungus, less pest pressure, more aesthetically pleasing plants and most importantly being a positive in a community that many view as a detriment to the environment.
The most telling regarding resistance to adaptation comes from the guy who asked about how to apply the science to manipulate nature for economic interests. There's always that one guy in the lecture.
I'm not sure his question was answered. It sounded like he was asking if you could custom tailor the F:B biomass ratio to the crop. ... and essentially, yes you can and should if it serves the purpose of growing your crop. Fields that get too woody of species could do with being knocked back to grasslands if that's the purpose you need it for.
Literally every person there is interested in the economic viability of this system. Even doctor Johnson said he's "all about production". There's always that one guy in the comments.
@@bigwooly8014 Ah... it took me a while to figure it out, but I see what you did there, attempting a rejoinder by using my line, without getting at the point about my line. You're (also) that guy. There's a crassness about the principle of "economic viability" which propagates the very problem of monoculture and lower yields. AND Johnson's point (the Johnson with a point) did say it's about FOOD productivity, not economic productivity per se. So that would be the opposite of meme choise.... however I get you cant see the difference as it involves subtly and perception that isnt rooted in a mono-system.
Does anyone know where I can learn about what the original dairy manure bioreactor was filled with? I'm trying to do this bioreactor for a cow and calf operation and I don't see a lot of info on actually doing this with cow manure.
At what time of the year should the tea be applied and how many applications should be applied to a pasture? We have just installed paddock fence and started rotational grazing last week. We have sheep that graze and keep a mostly covered pasture crop of Fescue and Clover. This year we added Lespridiza, chicory, bluegrass and rye as well as some Pistache and mulberry trees. We plan to add some more grass and herb species in the late spring. We are now rolling out hay for soil conditioning, seeding and some feeding. We are also considering broadcast spreading fescue seed husks or rice husks at about 100lb an acre. If i make a tea and spray it at .2lb/ gallon and 20 gallons an acre how often should that be sprayed? monthly?
It really depends, but if it’s a finished compost tea (microbial, not nutrient) then you really can’t overdo it because you’re adding biology. Once a month is brilliant, but probably more than you actually need to do. Just make sure you’re getting your biology into soil contact and not on tall grasses. Best practices are to add solid material, not tea, as once you introduce water into the system your diversity decreases, but every step towards soil health is a great step.
Arborist - Large static pile , Missouri ,30 years of collecting the best arbor chips that equal 3 semi loads. High fungal humus and trees, or anything growing responds with gusto, just like David says in the video. Were now commercialy doing soil innoculants repairing sick oaks with uncurable armillaria fungus disease with remarkle results. This is the future ,and I no longer use fertilizers or chenicals because the biology outperforms.
Anything will do, there's no specific formula; include warm and cold season grasses, forbs and legumes. Some RA people advocate 16 species. Some just spread bird mix. The point is to get a root into the ground and never have bare soil.
The lady at 35:30 just doesn't truly understand or have any clue about grazing management. I have seen people use rumant animals; cows, goats, sheep, pigs, and chickens; literally regenerate arid and desert areas. The most cost and time investment is the infrastructure, however if you keep it as a mobile system, you can set up and tear down extremely fast.
Is there any way that I can see actual data from this research in any published and peer-reviewed journals? There is very limited available data on these trials. The closest that I have found to 'data' outside of these presentations are members of the bioreactor community research on CHICO's website. However, this data is really unreliable as they are done by citizens with highly variable inputs and results. I would like to believe everything that he is saying, but I need to see more concrete data and some support from the academic community before I can adopt these practices. If anyone has access to research papers on the topic, please let me know.
A friend is allergic to mold and so a physician advised him to put no compost in his yard. Will mold have a presence in a bioreactor? If so, does it aggravate an allergy?
A properly run bio reactor or compost pile will not have mold. That would be indicative of too much water and not enough heat most likely. If your friend isn't allergic to mushrooms there shouldn't be much issue. But that's ultimately up to folks smarter than I.
Is it possible to implement this in a monoculture? I see the owners I work for constantly put money into their farm, IE, pesticides, herbicides, etc. is it possible to reduce those sprays and still effectively raise the crop?
Yes. He's tried it on cotton www.csuchico.edu/regenerativeagriculture/bioreactor/david-johnson.shtml And corn (Howard Buffet's foeld), where could replace 170lb/acre of nitrogen by 2lb/acre of this as an extract which is applied in furrows at seeding
It's possible in monocultures, as long as the field never lays bare, as in when the corn is harvested, you quickly plant a cover crop. Apply the compost, etc.
The two questions about halfway through highlight a basic misunderstanding of what's being taught here. Soil health isn't something that can be changed and manipulated from season to season or year to year just with the different applications of nutrients and microbes. We've seen great short-term success by artificially creating healthy profiles with fertilizers at the expense of robust soils, but we have the opportunity to see greater results with healthier soils than we would get with by disrupting the soils all the time to try to optimize them into a certain configuration. And the things doing the nitrogen fixation aren't the plants. The plants are compatible hosts for the bacteria in the soil that do the fixation, but it's the bacteria in the soil doing the fixation, not the plants. Developing better host soils containing abundant nitrofying bacteria is as important as having legume root substrate where they perform ammonia exchange.
Hi David, this may be a ridiculous question but I have been compelled to start an experiment involving my own bio reactor and am wondering about the necessity of putting holes in the pipes that form the air ways in the reactor, when they will be removed so swiftly. Kind regards Mark Thomason Lecturer The Sheffield College
Yea. That got me before I realized that the pipes were removed soon after the reactor became operational i.e. before heat generation. So the pipes are merely smooth-wall forms to make an air shaft. The materials list specs 'sewer drain field piping': e.g. www.homedepot.com/p/Advanced-Drainage-Systems-4-in-3-Hole-120-5-8-in-Holes-Smoothwall-Pipe-04580010/203298773
@@carycupka4081 So are you saying that the reason for using the pipe with the holes is just for cost savings? I started a modified reactor this last weekend. Instead of using a pallet I have mine on the ground. I dug a trench from the middle to the outside of the compost bin, and installed a perforated pipe in the trench. My theory is that the only reason a pallet is used is to help get air into the bottom. I believe my solution will do that and allow worms to come up.
@@finagill Right. That's the way I'm reading it. No personal experience. Just heard the doctor say on another video that after some bit of time (maybe two days) particular microbes turn their special trick and everything sticks together. The air chimneys won't collapse and provide maximum air penetration into the core. (Holes on only half the diameter of the pipe make no design-sense at all.) > Good idea on the trenches. I don't see why a pallet is the only way to get a chimney effect (cold in at the bottom; hot out at the top) if you don't need to to move the reactor around. Still want to mind the plumb walls so it won't slump or topple. The drain field pipe would come in handy if the holes were faced down in the trench. > But direct contact with soil could form a moisture wick and a thermal sink. Maybe this would work: a level earthen pad with a sheet of styrofoam insulation punctured with big holes for pipe and small holes for worms and drainage. > Also uncertain how a longer cold 'flue' length between the heat and the plenum could affect draw rate and therefore thermal regulation. How finely tuned could it be: one-foot distance to ambient air, flue diameter and length? Giving each vertical an exclusive horizontal (short runs and no manifolds) seems safe. An HVAC engineer could confirm negligible or work out a table of variables. > Then I could be overthinking it....
If you used the compost to recover the soil for the first time it's ok but always use of compost to your land doesn't handle the complexity of diversity in long run because of small cycle of nutrient and gases so we always focus on big cycle of nutrient and gases cycle through all the living organisms that above the ground and below the ground(this is my opinion)
I think I know what you mean here. I sense a transition in the composting idea centered in Dr. J's feature of the bacteria : fungus ratio. Is it accurate to associate bacterial intervention as short-term /frequent and fungal intervention as long-term /infrequent? ( I might be disclosing my ignorance here...) His bioreactor seems optimised to produce fungus enriched soil for increased plant yield. And my first impression is that BEAM seems to be more of an intervention than a frequently recurring process. The transition seems most strongly suggested in the introductory slides featuring milk cow manure composting. I've just reread The Old Man and His Secret about James Francis Martin (1894 - 1975) who may be the father of 'beneficial microbes' *technology* as we know it today: www.texasmonthly.com/articles/the-old-man-and-the-secret/ "Arguments in Martin’s second amended patent application stress that bacteria found in manure from milking cows are unique. ...anaerobic bacteria are found in deep muds and also in one of the cow’s four stomachs-anaerobic microbes help cows extract calcium from hay and grass, something people are unable to do. Those bubbling anaerobic bacteria, like the yeasts Martin also employed in his process, use fermentation to break apart organic molecules and free the energy that held them together." Does the USDA project Dr. J referenced in his opening slide portend the transition in soil *maintenance* from bacteria to fungus? I reckon a bacterial focus may always be key for *remediation*. Dr. J seems to suggest @7:00min. in his video on bioreactor fabrication and usage: ruclips.net/video/DxUGk161Ly8/видео.html --there may be a place for an inoculant in the leaf-soaking phase of loading the bioreactor. But anerobic microbes for fermentation are mutually exclusive to fungi so I don't see the point of using dairy cow manure in an aerobic bioreactor even if it's as easy as wrapping in plastic for a pre-mesophilic fermentation phase e.g. bokashi to shorten the time-to-compost. That's also counterproductive to the fill-and-forget feature of this bioreactor. So what--if any--bacteria would you want to inoculate this bioreactor fill? It seems on point to 'superhydrate' the fungal ratio and the bacteria are what they happen to be.
Oops. Dr. J's reference to milk cow manure is in a different presentation: ruclips.net/video/18FVVYKU9gs/видео.html "The unlikely beginning to this research path was a project with USDA I received the second day I got to work."
🤫A question politely handled does not require debate or discussion. Manners. If your so important that you need to ask a question? Wait till the end, or else Keep it short, accept what's given and ZIP IT UP!🤐
I have a couple of questions that I would love input on. Does the soil reactor require the addition of compost worms? I am in an area that does not already have these invasive species and would not want to accelerate any environmental harm. Can you leave it without the worms? How much longer would this take? Would this limit the biodiversity of the resulting compost? Would there be problems with aeration? If anybody has some information on this or knows where to find it I would appreciate your help!
@@thecitizenfarmer7700 Thank you for your reply. I understand what you are saying, but with how the Johnson-Su system works, I dont think this would apply. (However if this were any other composting method you would be 10,000% right) Because the compost isn't turned with this system there is only one phase where it heats up significantly (thermophilic phase) and the worms are supposed to be added after it cools down. Are you saying that after the compost is almost done, turning it once could start a new thermophilic stage? If so would that significantly decrease the amount of mycelium present by the time this kills the worms. I worry that stirring it would disrupt the mycelium creating a sub-par compost (Sorry if I misrepresented what you were trying to communicate at any point) I did end up finding a good substitute though. The American Giant Millipede (Narceus americanus) performs a very similar role and is native to my area! Thank you for your thought and time, I really appreciate how willing you are to help!
At 39:19 the side-by-side comparisons are not exactly the same area. The right hand picture is a further away view, thus omitting the bare ground in the foreground of the left hand picture & superficially boosting the improved foliate matter. Am not doubting your results but the differing subject images don't exactly portray your findings. Just saying ! At 40:30 you describe plant biomass developing on inoculated bare desert dirt, over 3 consecutive years. You don't say whether you grew the same crop (presumably a leguminous mix) each year, or changed the plant type each year - the latter presumably (?) has a more beneficial effect than planting the same thing 3 years running.
at 27 minutes or so, i do not understand the question of the gentleman who was saying he has determined that farming is not a good way to make money (????) but that his intention is to grow carbon and to be used later say for a crop and then another year on growing soil. and how easily can the soil be manipulated towards this or that microbial structure...really confused. i do not know how farm economics works in his mind. but more to the points of the presentation, there is no dichotomy between growing a crop and growing soil. plant and soil come together, more precisely and accurately, they give rise to each other. you cannot grow soil without anything growing a plant, be it a "crop" or a cover crop. and finally, everyone, all this begins with the plant succession thing and again, plant and microbiome give rise to each other - 16 minutes into the presentation. this last is easily lost in the excitement over the results and forgetting that this is a system - trees love fungi at different rates, shrubs/vines/bushes also love fungi but not as much 2:1 to 5:1, and lettuce love and indeed corn are bacterial. when you want to tweak a system, be careful. systems are not linear like just because you learned that 1 bushel requires 1 pound of N does not mean 1000 pounds of N will yield 1000 bushels
That fellow was still conditioned by industrial agriculture education. He didn’t know it doesn’t work that way! Don’t worry he’ll come around. After all, he found himself at that incredible presentation.
To Paul: I think the gentleman saw the 2nd pie chart which says 51% of the carbon efficiency flow ended up in the soil and believed that the total carbon in the soil correlated to the 51%. He didn't realize that the 14% of new soil carbon from the 6th pie chart, large healthy plants photosynthesizing over an entire season might be 5 or 10 times more than the carbon flowing into the soil from the 2nd pie chart puny plants. In another video, David Johnson shows a photo of the 6 plants grown in the 6 different media. That photo would help the gentleman understand better.
Love this presentation. If you want to live a long life, a whole food plant based diet is the best. Blue zones and The China Study show this. Processed food is not good.
Maybe the world needs an understanding of how to fertilize with cheep natural ingredients which do not demand a lot of time and energy to apply ..Composted fungal food seems expensive right now to nearby farmers..or labor extensive ...but there may be an easy way to generate carbon nutrients like wood and leaf powder to be applied nine months earlier to generate the fungal process related to nutrient uptake the following season? Interesting
Me: ::puts the presentation on 2x speed and zones out until the fire and brimstone is over because I'm here to learn about working models and don't need the "why they're needed" wheel reinvented every time::
Soooo, a couple of self-centered people make the whole presentation and everyone else's focus and time all about them. 🙄😒 I came to hear the speaker, not them leisuerly opine about their personal issues.
This woman talking about logistical issues isn’t doing her homework. Hell, even just a lose search will yield soil carbon cowboys, and those videos show you very clearly we have 0 need for CAFO operations and can very responsibly manage this.
This is the kind of environmentalism I can get behind. The panic over carbon dioxide is RETARDED. If anything we should be scared of the loss of carbon dioxide.
lol correlating glysophate with autism rates is insane, you could do that with about 30 major social phenomena that have increased or decreased over the same period. All credibility from there lost.
Seriously though people in the audience .. . wtf... Stop it. Listen with your ears not your mouths the logistics woman seriously though stop talking give your own talk if you must but for now stop it. Just seriously though stop
This speaker is not well educated on autism. The rising incidence is due to a greatly broadened definition and increased awareness of the condition. A correlation with agricultural practices is not sufficient evidence of causation. It's unfortunate that there are universities spreading such ignorance.
ABOIUT WATER YOU ARE WRONG PLEASE GO SEE PRIMARY WATER INSTITUTE YOU WILL LEARN SOMETHING...FOR THE SOIL YOU ARE RIGHT BUT ABOUT WATER GO LEARN,,,SO YOU DON T LOSE ALL YOUR CREDIBILITY.
Hi, I'm reading your paper at the moment, though I can only find it in peerJpre-print, it doesn't seem to have gone through peer review yet. Is there a peer reviewed place I can read it? Thanks! Edit: what you say at 30:20, we've focused on manipulating plants for poor soils rather than focus on the soils, I love that, it's such a neat summary
I've watched this 4 times and shown it to multiple people. I'm working to acquire land and farm using Dr. Johnson's methods.
Watch it a second time. There are so many revelations
I farm 1500 acres in western Oklahoma and am at the beginning stages of planning to implement these practices. This is one of the most informative presentations I’ve heard yet. I have Crohn’s disease too and he mentioned something as a cure I’m going to look more into and consider before I get on pharmaceuticals in a couple months to control it
Ya I remember a video of a professor in Wyoming getting crohnes disease from tranquilizing big horn sheep. He talked about how he tried native plants for years and finally healed enough to go back to work. I forgot the name of the guy and video but I still remember watching it from like two years ago.
در طب سنتی ایران جوشانده گیاه Plantago major +Mint توصیه شده است
Look up Dr Joel Wallach chrones , he has found the underlying issue.
Did you get the compost done?
I did an experiment in a raised garden bed very similar to this. In October the bags of organic compost I had used the first year had reduced to a quarter of what they were so I added sticks and broken branches, leaves, a couple pans of bunny manure, some cow manure from my neighbors cow, a bag of leaves and some of my kitchen scraps. This is a four ft by two ft bed. I put a soaker hose through it and covered it with black plastic, and left it till march. I planted it with parsley, some green onion bottoms from my kitchen scraps and two cucumber plants. That year I preserved 10 quart jars of pickles and can’t remember how many we ate fresh, the green onions are still producing, as I cut and come again and they are four times the size they were when I bought them from the supermarket, and the parsley plant produced as a huge bush for the entire year stubbornly taking up a quarter of the container fighting with the cucumber which eventually sprawled into the play area and took over part of my childrens fort. The parsley plant has finally gone to seed and stands at five feet in height with over 50 seed heads. The only other thing I’ve done to it was the add more leaves and pine shavings to the top.
This is revolutionary research, and much needed, solid data. I've got to say though, I haven't seen worse audience participation since John Wilkes Booth went to see a play.
Yeah forreal. Could they shut up with their specific shit n let the awesome man with the presentation do the talkin.
Lol 🙂 Agreed
Por el minuto 34:30... "Estamos enfocados en lograr plantas que se adapten a los suelos pobres, cuando deberíamos más bien enfocarnos en hallar el modo de lograr suelos más ricos". Esa es la prédica de Ernst Gotsch, el fundador de la Agricultura Sintropica en el Brasil.
Just fantastic. I have watched this video over and over. I'm simply sucking up the information as it was a really good steak.
Hi Hshsj, This 'modern' approach to saving the land and saving our food supply has been in practice for centuries on all continents. With the negative impact of COVID19 when many are leaving big cities, planting in the traditional way is one means of self-sufficiency that I am pursuing.
Amazing scientific and practical explanation about a matter that has scattered ideas in reference literature
I had no interest in having to wait a year to get compost and have been watching the "compost in 18 days" type videos. Then I watched THIS video and can't wait to start a proper compost bin. However, I am just starting my garden this year (never gardened before) and will only have 24 sq ft of garden space. So I'm going to start with a couple of the trashcan sized versions I stumbled across. Now I just need to find a video that explains what to fill the system with and hope I have access to the materials. I'm in an urban area, so if it takes manure, I'll have to do some searching. I do hope WAY more farmers SEE this info and jump on board! It's clear our commercial farming lands are rather broken. And I'd love to get back to having food from the store that has not only some flavor (which is currently lacking), but that tastes GOOD! The current generations have no idea what they are missing in flavor!
Check out the Hungry Bin. You can adjust the feed stock to get solid 1:1 or fungal dominant ratios in output.
Think about applying an aerated compost tea. Pick up some good soil from a local wild space and use a couple handfuls of that in a tea to incorporate a more diverse fungal base in your garden until your compost pile is ready
In the presentation David showed that the feedstock doesn't really matter (as long as it is clean of toxins)...you still will end up with a diverse microbiology.
Buy your vegetables from your local farmers market. I bet they aren't hiring illegal immigrants
I think it’s good to do both if you have enough of the basic resources.
Wow! When I am learning something and my understanding is increasing, and my fingertips begin to tingle, I know that this is big important information! Thank you!
With that said, it is best to have students save questions until after the lecture.
Extraordinaria exposición en verdad, una completa correlación entre la evolución de la vida y los cambios que produjeron en nuestro mundo!
Y la relación entre la vida y la nutrición, como la relación que hay que investigar entre el Selenio y las tres extinciones de la vida en el planeta para las cuales no hay explicación hasta ahora.
Si alguna vez alcanzamos un planeta en el cual aún no haya surgido la vida ya sabemos que hacer para terraformarlo, inocularle con una diversidad de especies de bacterias, hongos, protozoos, invertebrados, etcétera.
One of the most comprehensive and informative presentations I’ve seen… very good!
Wow, this is an *IMPRESSIVE* lecture...I'm gonna have to view it several time to take it all in and understand the implications...Thank you Dr Johnson!
This is my fourth time watching it.
Holy crap. This is so mind blowing. Thank you so much.
I’ve always concentrated on the trace elements by using wood chip composting and not disturbing the soil too much. I found it interesting that extinctions of microbes are happening in the gut by the removal of fibre that are not replaced by retuning fibre.
He made a video on the Johnson-Su Bioreactor. Great video. A must see.
Hi Horse237, Biochar, waste reintegration into soil and permaculture are coming back to benefit humankind.
AMAZING material -- we are so grateful for this - thank you
Excelente presentación
Fascinating presentation. I'm living on a ranch of 500 hectares in Jalisco... We don't want to farm the land, but if we can find ways to inject fertility into the soil, that would allow us to spread pockets of food plants all over. That would allow us to live off the land
I have 30 acres of desert sand in La Mesa NM. I’m going to build a modified design of the bioreactor compost tower. I’m excited to naturally improve my soil!!!
Hi SW, Please look into and try planting sweet potatoes in sandy soil, which has been proven in Asia to be suitable, better than in other types of soils.
Dude, don't let the JS Bioreactor freeze. It is a big stand-up worm bin. You may have to build it under cover and/or provide supplemental heat depending on your winter temps. I wish he would have been clear in that from the outset. I had two piles freeze in zone 5.
This meshes perfectly with the work and teaching John Kempf is doing.
I'd love to see a large scale system so I'd have an idea how to build something for our 60 dairy cows to take better advantage of the winter bedding.
Maybe not your scale, but a bit bigger
twitter.com/bentd76/status/1312419552790302723?s=09
It's John Kempf's system but with a non-desiccated inoculum and no mineral foliar. I'm sure if you replaced John kempf's "spectrum" inoculum with JS compost and used mineral foliars you could accelerate the soil building even further.
@@TS-vr9of where did you get the information about John Kempfs composting system?
John Kempf’s soil primer is spectrum soil biological inoculant, AEAs rejuvenate( molasses with enzymes and enzyme cofactors), and AEAs seasheild which is a liquified shrimp and crab shell ( high is chitin and calcium which stimulates soil fungi.) you can try finding the recommendations on johns blog at JohnKempf.com the AEA RUclips channels, or go to AEAs website and give them a call and ask about the soil primer recommendations.
It seems to me that John Kempf is heavily invested into marketing of innoculant products...whereas this Johnson-Su system is open source and available for anyone to produce their own innoculant.
And why do people interrupt? Please don’t talk through the lecture!
At least just ask a quick question, not a soliloquy.
This is amazing and highly underrated. Frustrating as well, when we think about how slow the systems are we humans build up in adapting to change. How long will it take, to change habits of conventional agriculture that have there origin in our society structure, where fast benefit and greed are the decision makers?
And i wonder if we humans as a species have the time for a slow Transition towards a regenerative agriculture? Do we still have the time? This is not just a farmers problem, its a social problem, a Fundamental problem of our society of the systems we live in.
This transition has to be fast in my opinion, or the response we get from nature will be to hard for us to overcome as a species.
Hi Alex, When people around me are not so keen on adaptation, I make my move away from a big city since I am close to retirement. At least 5 families heard about my plan to go back to the land and they are following my line of thoughts. This is quite responsible from my perspective.
Your right but farmers are fairly quick to make adjustments in their practices if it can be shown that its will be profitable to them. I've never known a farmer who didn't want to do what was right for their land and they don't plant the expensive GMO seed and use the expensive chemicals because the want to but they have to make a living.
Would have been nice know your scientific analysis of using biochar.
I have been using mixed wood chips and leaves to make compost for 10 years my vegetables trees and flowers are very robust. I’ve given small identical plants to my neighbouring plot holders and have directly seen the difference in growth.
Years ago baby formula was found to be lacking Selenium. It was somehow lost in the processing.
The quote 'Align yourself with Nature' comes from an ancient Chinese book of philosophy 'Tao Te Ching' (in current Chinese romanization 'Dao De Jing' 道德經); author: Lao Zi (老子).' The Classic Book of Integrity and the Way/ Way and Virtue', dates back to approx. 300 B.C., is about how humans are related to nature and fortune/misfortune and 'It is advisable to get along with creation and nature'. Hence Align yourself with Nature. Source: regular high school curriculum in Taiwan and Hong Kong, Wikipedia....
I just stumbled upon this lecture, thank you for putting this interesting and informative lecture out here. I enjoyed it very much and it did help to put things into context. But there is one thing I really do wonder about. it seems like people mix their compost in the perfect ratio once- and that`s it, nothing more get added. depending on system you either turn or use your genious tubes with holes idea...
How do you do this in a little garden with not so much space to open a new compost all the time? isn` t composting about adding stuff as it happens? I save the brown stuff from autumn and then add the green together with the brown all throughout season as it happens? And then mine gets hot so I turn and mix it all together. The result is that early added things are finished months before the last stuff gets added, yet it still gets all mixed together as I turn should it go to hot or develop any smells.
I don`t know if this gives a good result, but this is somehow how the material flow happens. little gardens don`t have the space for multiple bay systems or many once erected piles that you mix once and close off and start a new one and store all that material until you have enough for a new one.
I am a bit worried now that my compost is not good because it got added to and old "finished" material got mixed with new material throughout one whole season. It makes it also hard to get the one point in time of maturation when it is full of life. different stages all in one box. but I don`t know how to logistically do it differently.
Don't panic. A good compost can take 12 months for the worms to process. Just a new pile next door and they migrate into the new pile. Watch some nutrisoil and nicole masters vids on vermiculture
Welcome to the world of composting my friend enjoy the journey👍 set up a second pile if you can it will help manage new and old material. Even In a small garden you probably won’t produce enough waste material because obviously some of it gets used up in the production of growing.
Try different techniques to convert the waste you have into a “balanced” mix of compost. Once you’ve discovered you can process this waste quickly (using various techniques, try hot composting) you soon begin to realise you need more material. I save most organic material and acquire waste from others. Start thinking of material as green(nitrogen) and browns(carbon) 2parts green : 1part brown is a good ratio, you soon start putting in material that you wouldn’t normally compost. Have a look into carbon:nitrogen values. Get your moisture content right and add air (turn)to increase heat if needed.
Experiment and start visualising the amount of “life” (more microbes = faster processing) that is actually happening in that mundane pile of waste in your garden it almost opens up a whole new world of discovery and you can go to bed at night all warm and happy knowing you are having a positive influence on this planet of ours. Have fun 👍😂. Get your composting environment right and the microbiological activity will do a ton of work for you 👍
I use two plastic compost bins in a small garden and my concerns are not the space they take up but how much can I process through them and how quickly(managing your material). Composting is the engine room of any garden - I give up growing space for them.
It’s important to distinguish between the different techniques and the different biological processes that are used in composting.
Very useful and authentic information. Thanks
Required class for any medical and farming education.
Boy you aren’t kidding! But it will be a huge fight for those who do not know or want truth! Big pharma and big Agriculture business sell their chemicals that bring death, destruction and deception! They go hand and hand and truth is not welcome by godless people.
@@droqueplot I am a godless person, but I still want to be a good steward of the earth, to extract enough food from the land while ensuring that I can do the same next year and the year after that.
With climate change making more of the land on this earth less agriculturally productive, less rain, more topsoil erosion, etc, and with more population living with a higher quality of living everyday, we need better and more sustainable solutions to feeding everyone.
I think you are wrong with your accusations of people, godless, farmers, etc. I believe everyone is trying to make a living, to do the best they can do within the constraints of putting food on the table and paying the bills. They see commercial fertilizers as the only way to do that.
It takes a great deal of proof to change people's minds. This presentation was a good first step, but sometimes people need to see it themselves. That takes time, that takes a small trial on your land, that is a years long process, much like the research being done takes 5 years before definitive results.
Wow this is great learning! Such important teachings to understand and act on! Praying for a called people to move into action on these revelations! 🙏🏼 I can only hope to be used in some way in Gods wonderful plan for this earth!
I’m on it!!
Admired by this tool that really helps farmer
Very interesting. I would really like to learn this technique.
This is a brilliant and revolutionary agricultural system that finds harmony with nature.
God is awesomely smart and superbly creative designing our soil microbiology and biodiversity which affects animals' microbiome and ultimately our human health including our environment.
At 24:10 Dr. Johnson shows a slide it shows fungal relationship ratios. The first two on the graph our clearly using his compost. One says "90512 Compost 5 Months" the next just "90512 Compost". What exactly does that mean. This compost ages 1 year before application so what does the 5 month annotation mean?
Amazing, thanks for your work.
Gracias por los subtítulos en Español 🙏👍
Great video, thank you!
58:30 how do they grow with no water in other years? How get started reestablishing desert with dry ground.
So I accidentally discovered static pile fungal composting, what I do is pile up bunch of grass and other materials, but the grass is the important structural component because I stab it with a stick and twist it all up like one would twist spaghetti with a fork. Then I continuously twist and pull it and it will heat up once and then I'll twist again and I'll do that a few times and then I'll just leave it. It works great. If you want it all to compost good it's best to make the rope in a small diameter or otherwise twist it multiple times from the middle of the rope after it heats up and cools down. If it's too thick the stuff on the inside does not get wetted
I also like to crush sandstone and throw rotten wood in the pile
And it grows is the cool part, as you pull and twist the compost outwards, adding new material while doing so, it turns into a bed, the "compost ropes" act like stolons. I've been throwing all kinds of seeds at it. This experiment started when I was just trying to mulch around my River cane that was struggling and now it's turning into a veritable garden that expands, I can't wait to see how things emerge next year when the river cane starts taking off and the sunny part will be a deep mulch compost bed. Also it has I'm guessing hundreds of species of macroarthropods living in it, I imagine the rich and diverse effraf will make some very high quality soil. I also turn the Earth underneath it while adding soil to inoculate the compost the ducks and the moles and gophers do the same, I think the burrowing animals do more good than harm as long as they have something to eat that isn't your crop
Now what I'm very interested in doing is automating the task and figuring out how to optimize the structure and the process, I'm thinking about simple mechanical implements that can be fitted to the specific context to twist the ropes and put it all together which can be constructed out of things as simple as ropes and sticks and maybe pulleys or winches even (I'm thinking about using two sticks as a winch) also covering it helps but I wouldn't leave it completely covered because you want the fauna to be able to use the pile and I think having exsposed parts of it go through wet dry cycles might actually increase diversity
I own a "pest control company" here in Florida and this is how I try to run my business. Building soil out of sand. Less fertilizer and chemical inputs by probably 75%, less bad fungus, less pest pressure, more aesthetically pleasing plants and most importantly being a positive in a community that many view as a detriment to the environment.
The most telling regarding resistance to adaptation comes from the guy who asked about how to apply the science to manipulate nature for economic interests. There's always that one guy in the lecture.
I'm not sure his question was answered. It sounded like he was asking if you could custom tailor the F:B biomass ratio to the crop. ... and essentially, yes you can and should if it serves the purpose of growing your crop. Fields that get too woody of species could do with being knocked back to grasslands if that's the purpose you need it for.
Literally every person there is interested in the economic viability of this system. Even doctor Johnson said he's "all about production". There's always that one guy in the comments.
@@bigwooly8014 Ah... it took me a while to figure it out, but I see what you did there, attempting a rejoinder by using my line, without getting at the point about my line. You're (also) that guy. There's a crassness about the principle of "economic viability" which propagates the very problem of monoculture and lower yields. AND Johnson's point (the Johnson with a point) did say it's about FOOD productivity, not economic productivity per se. So that would be the opposite of meme choise.... however I get you cant see the difference as it involves subtly and perception that isnt rooted in a mono-system.
Amazing! Thank you for sharing this valuable information 🌿 🌼 🐳
You have not mentioned regarding the fungal species how many are there
Thank you so much Dr.!!! . .. this lecture was amazing and I learnt a lot .. fantastic.. can’t express my thanks 🙏🙏🙏
This is important information. But the Graphics need to be simplified.
Don't worry, after it is well documented they'll have popup books for all you brainlets
What to do if the compost goes anti aerobic? Can it be saved?
To make the extraction, how and how many gallons of water to delude the compost?
Does anyone know where I can learn about what the original dairy manure bioreactor was filled with? I'm trying to do this bioreactor for a cow and calf operation and I don't see a lot of info on actually doing this with cow manure.
At what time of the year should the tea be applied and how many applications should be applied to a pasture? We have just installed paddock fence and started rotational grazing last week. We have sheep that graze and keep a mostly covered pasture crop of Fescue and Clover. This year we added Lespridiza, chicory, bluegrass and rye as well as some Pistache and mulberry trees. We plan to add some more grass and herb species in the late spring. We are now rolling out hay for soil conditioning, seeding and some feeding. We are also considering broadcast spreading fescue seed husks or rice husks at about 100lb an acre.
If i make a tea and spray it at .2lb/ gallon and 20 gallons an acre how often should that be sprayed? monthly?
It really depends, but if it’s a finished compost tea (microbial, not nutrient) then you really can’t overdo it because you’re adding biology. Once a month is brilliant, but probably more than you actually need to do. Just make sure you’re getting your biology into soil contact and not on tall grasses. Best practices are to add solid material, not tea, as once you introduce water into the system your diversity decreases, but every step towards soil health is a great step.
Arborist - Large static pile , Missouri ,30 years of collecting
the best arbor chips that equal 3 semi loads.
High fungal humus and trees, or anything growing responds with gusto, just like David says in the video. Were now commercialy doing soil innoculants repairing sick oaks with uncurable armillaria fungus disease with remarkle results. This is the future ,and I no longer use fertilizers or chenicals because the biology outperforms.
How was the salinity content reduced, flowing out the bottom of the compost bin?
Pretty sure microbes/fungi consume and break down the salts and convert them into plant avaliable/beneficial nutrients etc....
Thanks so much for this.
I have not yet reviewed the links on the presentation. Does any one know what plants comprise the 7 way cover crop?
Anything will do, there's no specific formula; include warm and cold season grasses, forbs and legumes. Some RA people advocate 16 species. Some just spread bird mix. The point is to get a root into the ground and never have bare soil.
Awesome video!!
What cover crop are you using or did I miss it?
Multi-species
Thank you.
Nice information. Thanks
The lady at 35:30 just doesn't truly understand or have any clue about grazing management. I have seen people use rumant animals; cows, goats, sheep, pigs, and chickens; literally regenerate arid and desert areas. The most cost and time investment is the infrastructure, however if you keep it as a mobile system, you can set up and tear down extremely fast.
Is there any way some of the principles could be meaningful on established groves? Would it be meaningful to just spread the compost around the trees?
Is there any way that I can see actual data from this research in any published and peer-reviewed journals? There is very limited available data on these trials. The closest that I have found to 'data' outside of these presentations are members of the bioreactor community research on CHICO's website. However, this data is really unreliable as they are done by citizens with highly variable inputs and results. I would like to believe everything that he is saying, but I need to see more concrete data and some support from the academic community before I can adopt these practices. If anyone has access to research papers on the topic, please let me know.
ruclips.net/video/JGz78-XR4YI/видео.html
Good luck. They feel that this type of compost is superior and expect you to just trust them. Very scientific.
Good work.
Could you address or steer me where I can go to find out how specifically to make this?
(www.csuchico.edu/regenerativeagriculture/_assets/documents/johnson-su-bioreactor.pdf)
is there any other way to increase personal micro-biota aside from FMT? where can i find the research on that
A friend is allergic to mold and so a physician advised him to put no compost in his yard. Will mold have a presence in a bioreactor? If so, does it aggravate an allergy?
A properly run bio reactor or compost pile will not have mold. That would be indicative of too much water and not enough heat most likely. If your friend isn't allergic to mushrooms there shouldn't be much issue. But that's ultimately up to folks smarter than I.
@@bigwooly8014 thank you!
Is it possible to implement this in a monoculture? I see the owners I work for constantly put money into their farm, IE, pesticides, herbicides, etc. is it possible to reduce those sprays and still effectively raise the crop?
Yes. He's tried it on cotton
www.csuchico.edu/regenerativeagriculture/bioreactor/david-johnson.shtml
And corn (Howard Buffet's foeld), where could replace 170lb/acre of nitrogen by 2lb/acre of this as an extract which is applied in furrows at seeding
It's possible in monocultures, as long as the field never lays bare, as in when the corn is harvested, you quickly plant a cover crop. Apply the compost, etc.
The two questions about halfway through highlight a basic misunderstanding of what's being taught here. Soil health isn't something that can be changed and manipulated from season to season or year to year just with the different applications of nutrients and microbes. We've seen great short-term success by artificially creating healthy profiles with fertilizers at the expense of robust soils, but we have the opportunity to see greater results with healthier soils than we would get with by disrupting the soils all the time to try to optimize them into a certain configuration. And the things doing the nitrogen fixation aren't the plants. The plants are compatible hosts for the bacteria in the soil that do the fixation, but it's the bacteria in the soil doing the fixation, not the plants. Developing better host soils containing abundant nitrofying bacteria is as important as having legume root substrate where they perform ammonia exchange.
Hi David, this may be a ridiculous question but I have been compelled to start an experiment involving my own bio reactor and am wondering about the necessity of putting holes in the pipes that form the air ways in the reactor, when they will be removed so swiftly.
Kind regards
Mark Thomason
Lecturer The Sheffield College
Bumping this in the hopes of getting a response because I am wondering the same thing.
Yea. That got me before I realized that the pipes were removed soon after the reactor became operational i.e. before heat generation. So the pipes are merely smooth-wall forms to make an air shaft. The materials list specs 'sewer drain field piping': e.g. www.homedepot.com/p/Advanced-Drainage-Systems-4-in-3-Hole-120-5-8-in-Holes-Smoothwall-Pipe-04580010/203298773
The holes in the pipe are a cost-availability accident. Did I communicate yet?
@@carycupka4081 So are you saying that the reason for using the pipe with the holes is just for cost savings? I started a modified reactor this last weekend. Instead of using a pallet I have mine on the ground. I dug a trench from the middle to the outside of the compost bin, and installed a perforated pipe in the trench. My theory is that the only reason a pallet is used is to help get air into the bottom. I believe my solution will do that and allow worms to come up.
@@finagill Right. That's the way I'm reading it. No personal experience. Just heard the doctor say on another video that after some bit of time (maybe two days) particular microbes turn their special trick and everything sticks together. The air chimneys won't collapse and provide maximum air penetration into the core. (Holes on only half the diameter of the pipe make no design-sense at all.)
> Good idea on the trenches. I don't see why a pallet is the only way to get a chimney effect (cold in at the bottom; hot out at the top) if you don't need to to move the reactor around. Still want to mind the plumb walls so it won't slump or topple. The drain field pipe would come in handy if the holes were faced down in the trench.
> But direct contact with soil could form a moisture wick and a thermal sink. Maybe this would work: a level earthen pad with a sheet of styrofoam insulation punctured with big holes for pipe and small holes for worms and drainage.
> Also uncertain how a longer cold 'flue' length between the heat and the plenum could affect draw rate and therefore thermal regulation. How finely tuned could it be: one-foot distance to ambient air, flue diameter and length? Giving each vertical an exclusive horizontal (short runs and no manifolds) seems safe. An HVAC engineer could confirm negligible or work out a table of variables.
> Then I could be overthinking it....
Why didnt I become a Biologist? 🙈
If you used the compost to recover the soil for the first time it's ok but always use of compost to your land doesn't handle the complexity of diversity in long run because of small cycle of nutrient and gases so we always focus on big cycle of nutrient and gases cycle through all the living organisms that above the ground and below the ground(this is my opinion)
I think I know what you mean here. I sense a transition in the composting idea centered in Dr. J's feature of the bacteria : fungus ratio. Is it accurate to associate bacterial intervention as short-term /frequent and fungal intervention as long-term /infrequent? ( I might be disclosing my ignorance here...) His bioreactor seems optimised to produce fungus enriched soil for increased plant yield. And my first impression is that BEAM seems to be more of an intervention than a frequently recurring process.
The transition seems most strongly suggested in the introductory slides featuring milk cow manure composting. I've just reread The Old Man and His Secret about James Francis Martin (1894 - 1975) who may be the father of 'beneficial microbes' *technology* as we know it today:
www.texasmonthly.com/articles/the-old-man-and-the-secret/
"Arguments in Martin’s second amended patent application stress that bacteria found in manure from milking cows are unique. ...anaerobic bacteria are found in deep muds and also in one of the cow’s four stomachs-anaerobic microbes help cows extract calcium from hay and grass, something people are unable to do. Those bubbling anaerobic bacteria, like the yeasts Martin also employed in his process, use fermentation to break apart organic molecules and free the energy that held them together."
Does the USDA project Dr. J referenced in his opening slide portend the transition in soil *maintenance* from bacteria to fungus?
I reckon a bacterial focus may always be key for *remediation*. Dr. J seems to suggest @7:00min. in his video on bioreactor fabrication and usage: ruclips.net/video/DxUGk161Ly8/видео.html --there may be a place for an inoculant in the leaf-soaking phase of loading the bioreactor. But anerobic microbes for fermentation are mutually exclusive to fungi so I don't see the point of using dairy cow manure in an aerobic bioreactor even if it's as easy as wrapping in plastic for a pre-mesophilic fermentation phase e.g. bokashi to shorten the time-to-compost. That's also counterproductive to the fill-and-forget feature of this bioreactor.
So what--if any--bacteria would you want to inoculate this bioreactor fill? It seems on point to 'superhydrate' the fungal ratio and the bacteria are what they happen to be.
Oops. Dr. J's reference to milk cow manure is in a different presentation: ruclips.net/video/18FVVYKU9gs/видео.html
"The unlikely beginning to this research path was a project with USDA I received the second day I got to work."
This is the way! 👌
Monoculture is detrimental to production must incorporate diversity then yields will increase.
🤫A question politely handled does not require debate or discussion. Manners.
If your so important that you need to ask a question? Wait till the end, or else Keep it short, accept what's given and ZIP IT UP!🤐
I have a couple of questions that I would love input on. Does the soil reactor require the addition of compost worms? I am in an area that does not already have these invasive species and would not want to accelerate any environmental harm. Can you leave it without the worms? How much longer would this take? Would this limit the biodiversity of the resulting compost? Would there be problems with aeration?
If anybody has some information on this or knows where to find it I would appreciate your help!
no because the heat up phase would kill the worms anyways
@@thecitizenfarmer7700 Thank you for your reply. I understand what you are saying, but with how the Johnson-Su system works, I dont think this would apply. (However if this were any other composting method you would be 10,000% right)
Because the compost isn't turned with this system there is only one phase where it heats up significantly (thermophilic phase) and the worms are supposed to be added after it cools down.
Are you saying that after the compost is almost done, turning it once could start a new thermophilic stage? If so would that significantly decrease the amount of mycelium present by the time this kills the worms. I worry that stirring it would disrupt the mycelium creating a sub-par compost (Sorry if I misrepresented what you were trying to communicate at any point)
I did end up finding a good substitute though. The American Giant Millipede (Narceus americanus) performs a very similar role and is native to my area!
Thank you for your thought and time, I really appreciate how willing you are to help!
At 39:19 the side-by-side comparisons are not exactly the same area. The right hand picture is a further away view, thus omitting the bare ground in the foreground of the left hand picture & superficially boosting the improved foliate matter. Am not doubting your results but the differing subject images don't exactly portray your findings. Just saying !
At 40:30 you describe plant biomass developing on inoculated bare desert dirt, over 3 consecutive years. You don't say whether you grew the same crop (presumably a leguminous mix) each year, or changed the plant type each year - the latter presumably (?) has a more beneficial effect than planting the same thing 3 years running.
at 27 minutes or so, i do not understand the question of the gentleman who was saying he has determined that farming is not a good way to make money (????) but that his intention is to grow carbon and to be used later say for a crop and then another year on growing soil. and how easily can the soil be manipulated towards this or that microbial structure...really confused. i do not know how farm economics works in his mind. but more to the points of the presentation, there is no dichotomy between growing a crop and growing soil. plant and soil come together, more precisely and accurately, they give rise to each other. you cannot grow soil without anything growing a plant, be it a "crop" or a cover crop. and finally, everyone, all this begins with the plant succession thing and again, plant and microbiome give rise to each other - 16 minutes into the presentation. this last is easily lost in the excitement over the results and forgetting that this is a system - trees love fungi at different rates, shrubs/vines/bushes also love fungi but not as much 2:1 to 5:1, and lettuce love and indeed corn are bacterial. when you want to tweak a system, be careful. systems are not linear like just because you learned that 1 bushel requires 1 pound of N does not mean 1000 pounds of N will yield 1000 bushels
That fellow was still conditioned by industrial agriculture education. He didn’t know it doesn’t work that way! Don’t worry he’ll come around. After all, he found himself at that incredible presentation.
To Paul: I think the gentleman saw the 2nd pie chart which says 51% of the carbon efficiency flow ended up in the soil and believed that the total carbon in the soil correlated to the 51%. He didn't realize that the 14% of new soil carbon from the 6th pie chart, large healthy plants photosynthesizing over an entire season might be 5 or 10 times more than the carbon flowing into the soil from the 2nd pie chart puny plants. In another video, David Johnson shows a photo of the 6 plants grown in the 6 different media. That photo would help the gentleman understand better.
@@brennagarten317 Where is this video? Thanks for your input…
@@IyanAhmath12 CSU Extension or Colorado State University Extension Range Management
Love this presentation. If you want to live a long life, a whole food plant based diet is the best. Blue zones and The China Study show this. Processed food is not good.
Maybe the world needs an understanding of how to fertilize with cheep natural ingredients which do not demand a lot of time and energy to apply ..Composted fungal food seems expensive right now to nearby farmers..or labor extensive ...but there may be an easy way to generate carbon nutrients like wood and leaf powder to be applied nine months earlier to generate the fungal process related to nutrient uptake the following season? Interesting
Billion people people passed away now its too late
Agree with nearly everything you displayed except for the timeline. Regardless, the points are the same.
We definitely have a carbon shortage.
Africa is so behind with "Progress" its ahead with Earth Care
at 30 minutes: manipulation vs observation clip
You have sure seen a lot of history for someone of your age
Me: ::puts the presentation on 2x speed and zones out until the fire and brimstone is over because I'm here to learn about working models and don't need the "why they're needed" wheel reinvented every time::
@Ed B Apologies. 16:35 is where the real presentation starts
Soooo, a couple of self-centered people make the whole presentation and everyone else's focus and time all about them. 🙄😒 I came to hear the speaker, not them leisuerly opine about their personal issues.
This woman talking about logistical issues isn’t doing her homework. Hell, even just a lose search will yield soil carbon cowboys, and those videos show you very clearly we have 0 need for CAFO operations and can very responsibly manage this.
In Uk they had crop rotation...is that not the answer... so there is crop there all the time
In many states, assaulting and verbally threatening a teacher is a hate crime
This is the kind of environmentalism I can get behind. The panic over carbon dioxide is RETARDED.
If anything we should be scared of the loss of carbon dioxide.
lol correlating glysophate with autism rates is insane, you could do that with about 30 major social phenomena that have increased or decreased over the same period. All credibility from there lost.
Tucker: "Tell me about your farming practices."
Vladimir: "Well, you must understand, 4.3 billion years ago water came to the planet...."
This is not static compost, it is worm compost.
Johnson is mixing terms and he should know better, he has a PhD ffs
It is
He says right in the video this is a vermicomposting system. All static means is you don't turn it.
Static worm compost (ffs).
Acting like this is a debate sheesh
Seriously though people in the audience .. . wtf... Stop it. Listen with your ears not your mouths the logistics woman seriously though stop talking give your own talk if you must but for now stop it. Just seriously though stop
Wait till he tells them about Biochar! 🤯
This speaker is not well educated on autism. The rising incidence is due to a greatly broadened definition and increased awareness of the condition. A correlation with agricultural practices is not sufficient evidence of causation. It's unfortunate that there are universities spreading such ignorance.
Carbon is a solid, not a gas.
I think the point he was making that carbon is readily available in gaseous form as CO2
To understand nature is to know it’s creator. And this guy has no idea or experience with truth. Beware🙏🔑✌️
If your obssesed with a fictional book, you'll never except a scientific reality. evolve
ABOIUT WATER YOU ARE WRONG PLEASE GO SEE PRIMARY WATER INSTITUTE YOU WILL LEARN SOMETHING...FOR THE SOIL YOU ARE RIGHT BUT ABOUT WATER GO LEARN,,,SO YOU DON T LOSE ALL YOUR CREDIBILITY.
What did the man say about water that is flawed in your opinion?
Hi, I'm reading your paper at the moment, though I can only find it in peerJpre-print, it doesn't seem to have gone through peer review yet. Is there a peer reviewed place I can read it? Thanks!
Edit: what you say at 30:20, we've focused on manipulating plants for poor soils rather than focus on the soils, I love that, it's such a neat summary