I started with Flask it made me understand the flow and basics and then I started Django that made me aware of some really cool reasons why Django is used in companies and its advantages and then I am doing internship so here I am working on fastapi which is pretty much similar to Express so now I know advantages of fastapi and why its called fast.
I use Flask, because it allows me to make temporary decisions based on short term requirements more easily. The usage of Blueprints for example makes it very modular and easy to change. I tried Django before, but was overwhelmed by too much magic behavior.
Django is very fast (it might be the slowest of the three, but it's relative), you can easily serve 1000's of connections per minute (and even do async if you want), so for most websites, it's way fast enough (we're not fortune 500 sites).
@@pedrod.7576 for beginners if they have never set up or wrote a project profesionally, which they will be doing going forward anyway. Django teaches that at first which is a good thing.
Django is really easy to get started and actually major companies such as Google use it so that's actually completely false that it's only for small projects
Django’s setup only takes 10minutes though if not less Create project Cd project Create app Connect app in settings Include your urls and a few little tweaks and than only can you start with the good staff with template, views and models Comes with SQLite aswell Perfect for beginners I think most beginners should start with Django just to know the structure of a real world web app/software Powerful I tell you I use Django for web apps and react native for mobile Most of my mobile apps are api based anyways so I just call/get my requests from my web apps server
We choose django not because it is django but because of its plugins. Django is the slowest among the three until you install the plugins with the most optimized algorithms on python on django then it beats them all. Take for example, Django-tree, django-filter, django-auth is the most complete auth out of the tree. Django rest framework is the most comprehensive REST framework that other frameworks from other languages try to copy from its features. Django is the most complicated out of the three but the most supported one by organization and companies. Bear with it.
I'm using Django without ORM and without templates and it is works quite well. Achieving more complex queries with ORM has to much performance penalties or is impossible, so I'm using it only for table User related things. Instead of templates I'm using Vue templates on the client side. Apache configuration was a little tricky, but after a few weeks of experimentation is started to work as expected. ASGI is possible with Django, but I've got impression it is not ready 100%. The main reason why I need ASGI is to run two query in parallel but AFAIK it is not possible with current Django.
Which would you recommend for the best ORM? In terms of config simplicity and compatibility? I see a lot of fast API based projects with shiny new ORM extensions, but they seem to all be built off SQL alchemy. Best to just start with flask and vanilla sql alchemy?
I’ve used django in the past and it is great although it requires a lot of boilerplate code. I then tried fast API, which I find so much more intuitive and easy to write. It’s also incredibly customisable.
I build all my apis and websites with fastapi. I have been paying attention to the robyn project as it has potential for a lot of performance since it is built over rust.
legal, mano... obrigado, digamos que eu queira construir uma empresa de táxi, tipo uber por exemplo, estou usando react nativo para meu celular, preciso de um dashboard, preciso usar comunicação em tempo real no backend do claro, para conectar meu painel e o aplicativo em uma comunicação em tempo real, qual devo usar?
do you do requests? if you do, can you make a new django series. just do the basic as always and if possible compare some of your codes/lines on your last django series to the modern one.
I use flask in production at work. Performance is relative, you usually don't need it. Not saying don't take the fastest one. I did choose my Go framework on benchmarks But don't stop yourself to use flask, that plenty enough to do a lot of stuff.
Fast API is very simple, Coming from java background I feel this easiness. have Build IDP application using Unstructured IO and integrated with LLM model.
Flask for simple prototyping, Django for professional features, and FastAPI for high performance APIs Django is (i think) so fcking cool and its ORM is awesome ! Fast Api is cool tho
Thanks Tim for your help but I will love for you to create a full basic structure documentation video about flask,fastapi and Django from the starting point to the end and even how to put it online and make updates when necessary please please do this for us 🙏
@@TechWithTim Hello sir Tim, can you please do a full comprehensive video on the general process of building a professional website, and how to organize your files and folders to s to come up with a professional website. thanks, will be looking forward to that.
Hey Tim, love your channel, but hoping to see more videos like the ones that originally drew me here. The recent sponsor-focused content has been a bit off-putting.
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I started with Flask it made me understand the flow and basics and then I started Django that made me aware of some really cool reasons why Django is used in companies and its advantages and then I am doing internship so here I am working on fastapi which is pretty much similar to Express so now I know advantages of fastapi and why its called fast.
I use Flask, because it allows me to make temporary decisions based on short term requirements more easily. The usage of Blueprints for example makes it very modular and easy to change. I tried Django before, but was overwhelmed by too much magic behavior.
Honestly the behavior is magical. I'll hardly pick for an api project. For web apps, I can make do with the magic
Django is very fast (it might be the slowest of the three, but it's relative), you can easily serve 1000's of connections per minute (and even do async if you want), so for most websites, it's way fast enough (we're not fortune 500 sites).
Django async support in 2024 is awful.
@@jaimel8219 define "awful"?
Exactly. People talking speed like they are the next facebook or whatnot but in reality most of them have 100 active users at best
@@jaimel8219 How is that so?
Now I clearly understand what to use first and why. Thanks Tim.
which is first?
@@azariahazane4101 Django
Flask
nah i learned django and i prefer fastapi
Django for smaller projects works fine, in any case you want more features later once it grows
Totally 💯
Django is a nightmare to setup for beginners.
@@pedrod.7576 for beginners if they have never set up or wrote a project profesionally, which they will be doing going forward anyway. Django teaches that at first which is a good thing.
Django is really easy to get started and actually major companies such as Google use it so that's actually completely false that it's only for small projects
@@robopaul9 django is too good for small projects
Django’s setup only takes 10minutes though if not less
Create project
Cd project
Create app
Connect app in settings
Include your urls and a few little tweaks and than only can you start with the good staff with template, views and models
Comes with SQLite aswell
Perfect for beginners I think most beginners should start with Django just to know the structure of a real world web app/software
Powerful I tell you
I use Django for web apps and react native for mobile
Most of my mobile apps are api based anyways so I just call/get my requests from my web apps server
Bro are you using django full stack or as a backend only? Do you use it with react? Thank you in advance bro if you answer my dumb question🙏🏻
@@ArMor-dp7nbdjango can be use for backend only
honestly, just bite the bullet and go with Django.
Once you get the hang of django, it's the only framework you'll want to use.
true
True, plus for your api you can use django rest framework
We choose django not because it is django but because of its plugins. Django is the slowest among the three until you install the plugins with the most optimized algorithms on python on django then it beats them all. Take for example, Django-tree, django-filter, django-auth is the most complete auth out of the tree. Django rest framework is the most comprehensive REST framework that other frameworks from other languages try to copy from its features.
Django is the most complicated out of the three but the most supported one by organization and companies. Bear with it.
This comparison is wonderful , Thanks Tim !!
Currently learning fastapi. Looks nice
I'm using Django without ORM and without templates and it is works quite well. Achieving more complex queries with ORM has to much performance penalties or is impossible, so I'm using it only for table User related things. Instead of templates I'm using Vue templates on the client side.
Apache configuration was a little tricky, but after a few weeks of experimentation is started to work as expected.
ASGI is possible with Django, but I've got impression it is not ready 100%. The main reason why I need ASGI is to run two query in parallel but AFAIK it is not possible with current Django.
Awesome video. No nonsense, just dense information. Exactly what i was looking for.
Hey Tim, what’s your view on Flask-async? How does that compare with fast-api?
At 7:17 you said asynchronous programming but displayed text as synchronous programming.
Hi Tim, What cloud vendor is most sought after between AWS and Azure from your experience?
Had debated that choice for a long time. Appreciate this breakdown.
For external frontent like nextjs etc. Fast api is recomended.
Thanks for the comparison. I think I will go with FastAPI, hoping this will benefit the most for the long term goal, large scale application
Which would you recommend for the best ORM? In terms of config simplicity and compatibility? I see a lot of fast API based projects with shiny new ORM extensions, but they seem to all be built off SQL alchemy. Best to just start with flask and vanilla sql alchemy?
what is the best backend if you're building a dynamic website using flet?
So I think tto stay alive on the market as a developer, it's best to know at least two these three options or maybe all three of them . Any ideas ?!😮
I’ve used django in the past and it is great although it requires a lot of boilerplate code. I then tried fast API, which I find so much more intuitive and easy to write. It’s also incredibly customisable.
You did not discuss django rest framework
I build all my apis and websites with fastapi. I have been paying attention to the robyn project as it has potential for a lot of performance since it is built over rust.
Do u recommend me to learn fast api if i just want a quick way to build apis for flutter?
@natnaelabayneh7664 depends on your needs, but it is worth looking into.
amazing video as always tim, thank you!
Hi, Tim. Which one would you recommend for an ML engineer?
Typically for an ML engineer, you'd deploy a model via an API. For that, sticking to the more API focused framework (FastAPI) would be ideal.
@@codewithlenny Thank You.
@Tech wih Tim your carrercourse website have a bug user cannot log in please fix it thank you!
Quart > FastApi. And if hight performance is important then you shouldn't be using python anyways.
Depends all AI use case needs Python.
a video demonstrating the async side of fast api would be very helpful.
you could also simply google 'async fast api'
What about laravel?
I've only just started working with it but livewre looks quite good
But he’s talking about Python here. Not PHP.
thanks Tim, it was a good explaination
hey Tim do a fast api react stack blocgging system that uses crud
legal, mano... obrigado, digamos que eu queira construir uma empresa de táxi, tipo uber por exemplo, estou usando react nativo para meu celular, preciso de um dashboard, preciso usar comunicação em tempo real no backend do claro, para conectar meu painel e o aplicativo em uma comunicação em tempo real, qual devo usar?
please create a large web application using farm stack
What is farm stack
@@ajayg2752FARM -> FastAPI, React, MongoDB
@@ajayg2752 fast api, react, mongodb is Farm stack
@@ajayg2752FastApi, React and Mongo. It's not a thing 😂
@@ajayg2752 fastapi, react, mongodb
Imo prototyping in fastapi is the same as flask. You don't need to use all the typing and async features
What about streaming video or music? Is it alright to use django or flask or fast?
You shouldn't use Python
Python is wrong choice for that, try with Rust or Golang
Tim you're top man mate!
@Tech with Tim please give us a breakdown of Reflex
do you do requests? if you do, can you make a new django series. just do the basic as always and if possible compare some of your codes/lines on your last django series to the modern one.
You make complex topics so easy to understand. 📚 Thank you for being an incredible educator!
What about Reflex Framework ?
I use flask in production at work. Performance is relative, you usually don't need it.
Not saying don't take the fastest one. I did choose my Go framework on benchmarks
But don't stop yourself to use flask, that plenty enough to do a lot of stuff.
Tell a good aggrid like framework fir any Python webapp
Please make a video on nodejs vs springboot vs django?
Fast API is very simple, Coming from java background I feel this easiness. have Build IDP application using Unstructured IO and integrated with LLM model.
You did not refer django-ninja , that combines fastapi with django.
Can you talk about Streamlit??
Recently at work, we conducted a performance comparison between Django and FastAPI, and interestingly, Django outperformed FastAPI in terms of speed.
did you use async for fastapi?
Are you in Bali?
I like the control I have over micro frameworks
7:18 - the subtitle is synchronous insted of asynchronous programming
What about Django-Ninja ?
Hi Tim ❤
One of your old subscriber 🎉
I find not much reason using flask over fastapi.
And if i need performance, I use robyn
DjangoRestFramework is awesome but I love the flexibility of FastAPI
Do more web development with Django please?😢
I do on my channel
Flask for simple prototyping, Django for professional features, and FastAPI for high performance APIs
Django is (i think) so fcking cool and its ORM is awesome !
Fast Api is cool tho
django is amazing. 5 minutes to setup. 3 days to debug. So far liking fastAPI and HTMX.
DRF is complex. It comes with lot of extra Abstraction.
microservices with FastApi with docker kubernetes and fancy cloud solutions event sourcing boom
How to track crypto whales using the Etherscan API
Thank you so much
Thanks Tim for your help but I will love for you to create a full basic structure documentation video about flask,fastapi and Django from the starting point to the end and even how to put it online and make updates when necessary please please do this for us 🙏
I have many videos on all of themb
@@TechWithTim ok but please do you have videos on how to update your website
@@TechWithTim Hello sir Tim, can you please do a full comprehensive video on the general process of building a professional website, and how to organize your files and folders to s to come up with a professional website.
thanks, will be looking forward to that.
if you want rest api, def go with fastapi. If you want to serve HTML templates, go with flask or django. Easy
Node js is the god of backend
I use Falcon
Flask has async since v2.0
I don't have much time
I feel sad that I couldn't watch all videos 😢
That's not true. FastAPI is easier to learn than flask. And their performance is even better.
I love Flask
Exact video I got
Excelente resúmen
Django is what I use daily.
django humbled me
What a bunch of cliches.
He basically told us that Flask is for hobby projects only.
Hey Tim, love your channel, but hoping to see more videos like the ones that originally drew me here. The recent sponsor-focused content has been a bit off-putting.
Bro just casually flexing with the background 😭
I love django
No no no no no no no. Emacs only!
Lightstar
Litestar and robyn are great frameworks too.
Django is goat
the real deal is litestar
Boss !
You don't have any content...
Repeating same old points again and again and wasting our precious time.
Hi sir h r u .? Long time no see u?sir plz python with mangodb in real a ecommernce website full for a to z all things plz describe
FASTAPI
I use all 3
streamlit crying in corner
😂😂
You guy's need to tell each other when you are making a video. Both you guy's are always walking around in the background.
Just enjoy the view
True what's the matter with people walking xD
@@denverjamesduran2750 I was messing with him calm down.
Hono is new
Litestar
CherryPy 💀
Golang
Sanic
none of the above lol
Just use Java Spring🍝
Disliked bc jetbrains
I am learning django 🎉 it is best for ai development also
Why?
@@oxyht in a real time ai application we use tons of data to manage those mount of datas
We need powerful framework like django
@@destroyer9154you can integrate ai with js also😂 no need to waste time on python