yeah. 5090 will be 2000usd and will be 24-32gb vram. the 5080 will be gimped as hell. most likely 30% slower than 5090 and 16gb vram and again we'd be lucky to get more. AND it will probably be 1200usd again. I am sure it will be 1200usd because when the 5090 is 2000, itll look like a "good deal".
@FIVESTRZ if you could pick up at that price but that GPU was scalped into oblivion thanks to crypto mining and a global supply shortage due to Cov. But yes the 3080 was the last decently priced to performance GPU. Nvidia doesn't need gamers anymore so they'll be pricing their products for max commercial yield. Plus they are just plain old greedy.
@@Quint1975 I agree with the greed/maximizing profits which is good business to the shareholders. Import taxes during that period hurt us just as bad as scalping, where prices climbed to $1099 MSRP which I think gave them the courage to launch the 4080 at $1199 😂. I guess to an extent if you're talking prosumers then yea but enterprise is a big money maker. Sell 1 solution to one company or sell 10,000 units of RTX 5000 for the same outcome in revenue
It’s not going to be cheaper. People will spend $2500.00 dollars on a 5090 so why would NVIDIA consider a price drop? NVIDIA doesn’t care about gamers if the AI enthusiast will eat it up
I'm in the AI sphere. AI enthusiast I've spoken with that already have a 24GB 3090/4090 are not going to touch the 5090 if it's 24GB again and if it sells over $1600-1800, regardless of how fast it is going to be. In AI land VRAM is everything. AI enthusiasts that I'm communicating with tell me that they won't be happy even with the rumored 28GB. They all already have 24GB GPUs which is not much different than 28GB. Everybody wants a 32GB 5090. And I agree with them. 33% more VRAM is not too much to ask after 4 years of sitting on 24GB (3090 with 24GB released 4 years ago).
he's being intentionally dense more than likely. Tbh his analysis tends to be kinda average to below average in the techtuber space. He makes good videos overall though imo.
There is absolutely no reason for Nvidia to make it cheaper than 4090. None. Zero. They already dominate the market, there is zero competition in flagship to them. Zero. All they will do is keep pushing the price ceiling for every generation. It's purely illogical for Nvidia to make a 5090 cheaper than 4090 from any perspective. In fact, they have all the more reason to keep pushing the price ceiling for the 1% people that buy these flagship cards just to get the best performance without thinking of costs. For one, AMD, unironically is giving some decent competition to Nvidia in the lower price segments. So it would make more sense for Nvidia to just keep milking more margins at flagship segment just in case RDNA 4 happens to be a lot mode competive in lower price segments. AMD is not even trying to compete Nvidia in flagship in the upcoming generation
Nvidia sell IA server GPU at 33K when they cost 3K. Why ? Because enterprise will buy them anyways. Just like they gonna buy a Rog Matrix (4090 costing 3200$, yes, the same as a full 7800X3D+4090 system). The 5090 launch orice will be minimum 2500$. Max: 3500$ (Remember, the 4090 Rog Matrix cost 3200$. 3500$ is totally not a crazy guess)
@@FireCestina1200 wtf does rog matrix has to do anything with 5090 msrp? These cards are limited edition and extremely binned. It could cost 5k if asus wanted lmao.
@@darkfire3691Yes. And people would still buy them. Nvidia knows that. There's nothing who has held back Nvidia to launch 3070 at 700$ and 4080 at +500$ at 1200$. There's nothing holding back Nvidia to launch 5080 at 1700$-2000$ compared to the 4080 1200$ launch.
Nvidia is the only company that makes beastly GPUs worth buying. They can price the top end GPU models at whatever they want. It will sell. There are plenty of people out there who have worked hard, made investments, made substantial gains in their net worth, run zero debts, and are mortgage free. Those people will be hungry for the top tier products. For everyone else, Nvidia has the "lesser" 60 to 80 series. There is something for everyone.
This feels like a clickbait video. Even you yourself said towards the end that you don't believe they will be cheaper (14:33). So why even make this video and title it this way? Besides, when has the price of anything gone done without any competition even if the manufacturing cost has gone down? Does anyone think that Nvidia care about passing those savings to the gamers when they can sell every single chip they produce to the AI market at 10x the price?
dude i appreciate the video and all but the title specifically mentions the "economics" of this gen, and yet you don't dive too much into that at all, and even end your video explaining the economics are for another video... frustratingly misleading titles tbh, and i would have watched happily with a more correct title as the info was still solid and i liked it but, i came for one specific thing, and feel bait and switched
I would like to add i love your content and only meant respect in my comment, just it frustrated me at the end to hear you say that, and felt a title change might help others not feel the same letdown
@@JamesSmith-sw3nk Wow you REALLY take the comment section seriously... lol haha why does my comment offend you? lol. either way, I was being respectful, trying to be helpful, and yes I take my time seriously, and felt i letdown due to the title, and therefore will have less trust going forward from any creators that use said titles, and I was trying to offer constructive criticism, that is coming from a respectful place. But you know, you're really sooooo much better than me, so you tell me what i should take seriously...
Not true. We all want the 5090 to be like 80% faster than a 4090 and be $1600. Please don't let your low IQ brain say something so dumb again. Control yourself
Do all 4090 react the same to your tweak? Small sample size. As you mentioned they have brilliant people there, must be a reason why they put the power settings this way, no?
There is no reason for Nvidia to sell a 5090 for any less than $2k. It does not matter how it performs as long as its the current best. Remember the 90 class market makes up less than 5% of all the gpus out there. Its a flagship and as such people will pay. You know it. Nvidia knows it. It doesnt matter if the price to performance is awful. What nvidia needs to get right is 80 class pricing. Cut the 5080 down and charge $800 for it. The 4070ti super is just about what the real 4080 should have been at launch. Side note. Even though 16gb of vram is enough for 99.9% of games for at least the next 4 years i cant fathom giving nvidia $1k+ for 16gb of vram. Either bring it down in price or stick more vram on it.
The 4080 is what convinced me to buy a 4090. The 4080 was worse on price/performance than the flagship which should NEVER be the case. If it was done to make more people buy the 4090, sadly I fell for it.
@@badpuppy3 The issue with the 5090 being $1600, is that it will be much harder to get and you may not be able to buy one the second it drops, and it could be sold out for maybe a year etc... If it's priced at $2000 , you should be able to buy one on release date if you're there the minute it goes up for sale
I feel like these cards were overbuilt TO justify their MSRP, not the other way around. The AIBs had to make their own adjustments to the look and feel of the card to make the cards palatable at the offered prices, mostly set by NVidia, and also where most of the margin goes 😅
The latest rumors suggest that 5090 will have 600 watt tdp. So i dont think that Nvidia is changing direction. Although if it is a 2 slot design. It will be very interesting to see the actual card.
Due to contacts, expenses etc whatever…. YOU might get one for 1300 😂 Id be very very surprised if it’s much below 2k retail for everyone else. Especially at launch. It’ll no doubt creep down but I imagine the first batch will likely just get scalped anyway
Actually makes sense. People bought the 4090 for a 2x 3090 in performance. It exceeded expectations. What and why would people want to change or upgrade for more price when they are fine where they are? Lower the price and force them to reconsider. What would happen to the second hand 4090 and 3090 market. If they can pull it off, it's genius. There is a much bigger market this year than just gamers. People like me are in the market for multiple cards for home use.
Before the 4090 release, speculation were ramped with ppl thinking Nvidia will launch the 4090 at $2500 to $3,000 because of the specs and rumors that it absolutely destroys the 3090 and 3090Ti which launched with a high MSRP. As someone who had a 3090 and upgraded to the 4090, Yes the 4090 destroys my older 3090 and is way more power efficient but the 4090 still launched at $1,599. Every Gen this happens with price speculations, Nvidia knows what price range they have to stay within to sell their products. Personally, I'm guessing $1,799 for the RTX 5090 and $1,000 for the RTX 5080. "The more you spend, the more you save"
Impossible, for two reasons. Jensen *at minimum* wants 60% margins, and if the card costs more to produce, assuming a bigger die and newer spec (and more) RAM, Jensen *will* raise prices. Combine that with zero high end competition from AMD (not even a whimper, nothing) and you get *minimum* 1900 dollars, max 2500, but probably 2000. Don’t forget that’s in USD, some nations pay orders of magnitude more for the cards due to weaker currencies, I’d be paying about 4K for a 5090 when the average salary is about 100,000 AUD, I’m paying *4%* of an average salary for *a singular component* let that sink in.
The process node will be a massive factor in determining the performance, price, and power efficiency of the RTX 50 Series. Since nothing has been confirmed yet, TSMC 3nm is still a possibility. It's definitely possible that the data centre chips and gaming GPUs could use a different process node despite being on the same architecture. If they do go for a TSMC 3nm node, it will likely be a custom 3N node to maximise the performance and efficiency of the RTX 50 Series.
You're not getting more than half the full die even with the 5090 this time and it's gonna be $3000. I'll just make do with last gen stuff at lower price and just play less demanding games.
If there is something that I learned from business class, it's always who has the monopoly controls the market. As the rumor about AMD's decision to not rival or competes with high end cards of nvidia to focus on midrange gets truer and truer everyday, the more the 5090 would actually cost 2k and I will be so surprised if they will priced it anything below 2k
The xx90 is meant for workstations. Thats why it gets almost double the VRAM. Theres a market for it but it’s small, and Nvidia knows those people will pay whatever for it. I have a feeling the 5090 will cost 1999.99-2499.99, while the 5080 will be around 1,000-1200 to cater more to gamers. Imo they should keep the 5070 the same price as 4070 since the xx70 is usually the top seller each gen.
The 90 series of the NVIDIA "consumer" line of GPU's are for enthusiasts with more money than they know what to do with or people who might work with programs that benefit from having a stupid-strong GPU. Then there's those who need a GPU to train AI models and crypto miners but aren't willing to buy a $6-20k purposely designed cards for those workloads like the A6000, A100, H100 and so on, which main audience is businesses, not private consumers. That being said, the actual general consumer product starts on the 80 series, and even then, with the MSRP tag of $1200 or so... calling it a consumer product stinks almost as much as the 90's. NVIDIA doesn't see their 90's series as gaming cards. They see it as the only product in the market that's capable of doing a little bit of everything remarkably well compared to all other products available to the general consumer - from gaming and content creation to AI training and crypto mining. So why would they put a cheap price tag on it when the card will still sell regardless of how much "gamers" complain about it? It's even worse when NVIDIA themselves already admitted they don't really care much about the "gaming" market since it represents like 10% of their total revenue and when AMD also admitted to a shift in focus to their mid-range GPU's back in 2022-2023 where they can actually compete? 🙃 I do wish the 5090 is going to be cheaper than the 4090 with every fiber of my being and I wish I'm proven wrong when the card is launched... but with everything I just enunciated above, I don't see it happening. Complaining about the pricing of their 90 series is like trying to bring down a skyscrapper with a toothpick.
I dont think the 5090 needs to be cheaper but rather the rest of the stack below it - the 4090 was the only Ada card which was reasonably priced for it's performance at MSRP.
Ive got an idea once the 5090Ti drops in another year or so for now you can by it for me around $2300 and sell it to me unopened and brand new for under $300...
They will release high, then re-release with a different name at a lower price when the sales does not meet expectations. For example the RTX3080, then RTX 3080 Super. They would have sold way more if they had initially released the RTX3080 Super.
I rather believe they will rename the model they planned to be the 5080 as a 5090, charge 1400 for it (see, we lowered prices!) and call the former 4090 a 4090ti and charge 2000$ for that.
Its not the wattage that kills chips its the voltage. Pumping 1.45-1.6V into the ring bus is mostly the reason(it shares voltage with cores and 12.gen runs at much lower voltage here and not affected). I think the new 5090 will use the same power as the 4090. The power plug is fine, just a few bad apples and some not plugging the cable completely into lock. Or they wore out the connector by disconnecting the plug too often. The path of less resistance is doing the same as 4090 so thats what they'll do. You're logic in this vid doesnt add up. Same node and now they drop power and speed? WHY?! Ofc they need to keep the power up for more speed to use the dddr7 with increased bandwith/latency. More performance equals high price and good margins. This is what nVidia is all about. Amd just did the opposite and the cpus sells poorly.
Totally disagree about the power consumption here. Look, this is the flagship card, the best-of-the-best. When I bought my 4090 I wanted the best performance and power I could get of it to make my games look the best they could look with current technology and I want the exact same with the 5090. I hear the 5090 will be 600 Watt power draw all the power to it. This is what we want, this is what I want! 😂
It's really odd you seem to be wishing Nvidia would NOT push for maximum achievable performance in the top-tier card, and are more interested in power savings. Are you really the target audience for this kind of card? Because that's quite the opposite of what I want. Go for a power-sipping midrange card with cheaper cooler if you care about that stuff. I want maximum capability possible every generation, with price being my only constraint. And yes I bought a $2k watercooled 4090 on launch day.
Hey Nvidia here’s an idea . Don’t release shiiii till you have plenty to release instead of backsliding to your own and selling for triple profit the first few months
NVIDIA 5090 100% will never EVER be cheap, the last elite, Top-Tier card that I bought back in the day for a FAIR price was the 1080 TI, and that was an eternity ago, and arguably the GOAT GPU of all time. However, even the 5070 which is what I was aiming for is rigged, by being only 12gb of RAM which is an absolute joke. I'm tired of this nonsense, and worst off, within a year, the 5070 Supers or whatever they are will be out too, mark my words, they will do this on purpose.
Nobody cares, they can Charge 5000$ for RTX5090. Just hope they charge 300$ For RTX5060 and up to 500$ For RTX5070. These are the cards people actually buy...
look at how the 4070 is now its a upgraded 3080 so i suspect the 5070 will be as strong as a 4070ti which will be a good jump I suspect to the 5080 will be as strong as a 4080 And the 5090 will be the 4090ti from the 1080 card I had since the month it came out I was getting great fps using 1440 high in every game I only upgraded cause I needed the newer tech for upscaling So if I wasn't upscaling I still would have the gtx 1080 and still getting good fps I only upgrade now for future updates to use more power of my card for topaz But now I’m thinking 5070 will only be a little stronger than 4070
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it's Nvidia, no way in hell will this GPU come in below 1999.00. Not a chance.
yeah. 5090 will be 2000usd and will be 24-32gb vram. the 5080 will be gimped as hell. most likely 30% slower than 5090 and 16gb vram and again we'd be lucky to get more. AND it will probably be 1200usd again. I am sure it will be 1200usd because when the 5090 is 2000, itll look like a "good deal".
3080 was $699... Insane price to performance at the time.
@FIVESTRZ if you could pick up at that price but that GPU was scalped into oblivion thanks to crypto mining and a global supply shortage due to Cov. But yes the 3080 was the last decently priced to performance GPU. Nvidia doesn't need gamers anymore so they'll be pricing their products for max commercial yield. Plus they are just plain old greedy.
@@Quint1975 I agree with the greed/maximizing profits which is good business to the shareholders. Import taxes during that period hurt us just as bad as scalping, where prices climbed to $1099 MSRP which I think gave them the courage to launch the 4080 at $1199 😂.
I guess to an extent if you're talking prosumers then yea but enterprise is a big money maker. Sell 1 solution to one company or sell 10,000 units of RTX 5000 for the same outcome in revenue
@@newbiegain117 a fool and his money...
2000$ for sure. They are greedy, limited supply = no need to drop prices.
only 2499.99 in usa , only 2799.99 € in Eu :P
Not even that expensive lol
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It’s not going to be cheaper. People will spend $2500.00 dollars on a 5090 so why would NVIDIA consider a price drop? NVIDIA doesn’t care about gamers if the AI enthusiast will eat it up
Agreed.
I'm in the AI sphere. AI enthusiast I've spoken with that already have a 24GB 3090/4090 are not going to touch the 5090 if it's 24GB again and if it sells over $1600-1800, regardless of how fast it is going to be. In AI land VRAM is everything. AI enthusiasts that I'm communicating with tell me that they won't be happy even with the rumored 28GB. They all already have 24GB GPUs which is not much different than 28GB. Everybody wants a 32GB 5090. And I agree with them. 33% more VRAM is not too much to ask after 4 years of sitting on 24GB (3090 with 24GB released 4 years ago).
Heck, gaming enthusiasts will drop $2,5k on a 5090.
@@bgtubberthere have been multiple leaks saying the 5090 might get 48GB VRAM, the 5080 will not get an upgrade over the 4080 tho apparently.
@@bgtubberNvidia has never been generous on VRAM, but the 5090 could very well be the gift to AI guys, it will just cost an arm and a leg.
That thumbnail... Did you get struck by lightning to think Nvidia would ever lower prices??
he's being intentionally dense more than likely. Tbh his analysis tends to be kinda average to below average in the techtuber space. He makes good videos overall though imo.
There is absolutely no reason for Nvidia to make it cheaper than 4090. None. Zero. They already dominate the market, there is zero competition in flagship to them. Zero. All they will do is keep pushing the price ceiling for every generation. It's purely illogical for Nvidia to make a 5090 cheaper than 4090 from any perspective. In fact, they have all the more reason to keep pushing the price ceiling for the 1% people that buy these flagship cards just to get the best performance without thinking of costs. For one, AMD, unironically is giving some decent competition to Nvidia in the lower price segments. So it would make more sense for Nvidia to just keep milking more margins at flagship segment just in case RDNA 4 happens to be a lot mode competive in lower price segments. AMD is not even trying to compete Nvidia in flagship in the upcoming generation
How many times do you have to get burned before you learn that the stove is hot?
The only way Nvidia drops prices is if AMD or Intel does better and cheaper which is very unlikely.
$1600.00 MSRP is not going to happen, in your dreams it may but not in the corporate world
It Will be 1600.01 .
Yeah me too, i'll be 1600.02 Ready for the 5090 at launch 🤣🤣
I bought a strix oc with og all, owned for 9 days for 1.6 lol a few months ago
They're going to release a Titan variant for the high end. The 5090 will be $1599
$1600 is affordable
Nvidia sell IA server GPU at 33K when they cost 3K. Why ? Because enterprise will buy them anyways.
Just like they gonna buy a Rog Matrix (4090 costing 3200$, yes, the same as a full 7800X3D+4090 system).
The 5090 launch orice will be minimum 2500$. Max: 3500$ (Remember, the 4090 Rog Matrix cost 3200$. 3500$ is totally not a crazy guess)
They ain't jumping over 1000$ in one go if the price rises then it will be 1800 or 2000
@@FireCestina1200 wtf does rog matrix has to do anything with 5090 msrp? These cards are limited edition and extremely binned. It could cost 5k if asus wanted lmao.
@@darkfire3691Yes. And people would still buy them. Nvidia knows that. There's nothing who has held back Nvidia to launch 3070 at 700$ and 4080 at +500$ at 1200$. There's nothing holding back Nvidia to launch 5080 at 1700$-2000$ compared to the 4080 1200$ launch.
since when do prices go _down??_
Especially without any competiion.
They won’t
They did for ampere
Only when an economy collapses. Forget prices coming down figure a way to make more money is the name of the game.
Nvidia is the only company that makes beastly GPUs worth buying. They can price the top end GPU models at whatever they want. It will sell. There are plenty of people out there who have worked hard, made investments, made substantial gains in their net worth, run zero debts, and are mortgage free. Those people will be hungry for the top tier products.
For everyone else, Nvidia has the "lesser" 60 to 80 series.
There is something for everyone.
hell will freeze over b4 that happens
The original Hel is a cold place.
Honestly have heard were looking at $2199.00 USD.
I will bet $100 you it won't be more than $1999.99 USD MRSP. Put your money where your texting fingers are
This feels like a clickbait video. Even you yourself said towards the end that you don't believe they will be cheaper (14:33). So why even make this video and title it this way? Besides, when has the price of anything gone done without any competition even if the manufacturing cost has gone down? Does anyone think that Nvidia care about passing those savings to the gamers when they can sell every single chip they produce to the AI market at 10x the price?
I am worried for the 16pin connector in the 5000 series.
The 600w rumor culd be that the cooler should be able to cool 600w
When was the last time any video card manufacturer released the newest fastest for less than the last newest fastest? Never.
so 5080 will be selling for 800 then , if the gap between them is as big as we know from leaks ...
dude i appreciate the video and all but the title specifically mentions the "economics" of this gen, and yet you don't dive too much into that at all, and even end your video explaining the economics are for another video... frustratingly misleading titles tbh, and i would have watched happily with a more correct title as the info was still solid and i liked it but, i came for one specific thing, and feel bait and switched
I would like to add i love your content and only meant respect in my comment, just it frustrated me at the end to hear you say that, and felt a title change might help others not feel the same letdown
Wow! You REALLY take a 14 word title seriously.. 🤔
@@JamesSmith-sw3nk Wow you REALLY take the comment section seriously... lol haha why does my comment offend you? lol. either way, I was being respectful, trying to be helpful, and yes I take my time seriously, and felt i letdown due to the title, and therefore will have less trust going forward from any creators that use said titles, and I was trying to offer constructive criticism, that is coming from a respectful place. But you know, you're really sooooo much better than me, so you tell me what i should take seriously...
@@Qabick So then.. You are a GOOF. Don't go away mad, just.. go away.
Most people don't care about an ultra high end product getting cheaper. We want to see that on entry level and mid range parts.
Not true. We all want the 5090 to be like 80% faster than a 4090 and be $1600. Please don't let your low IQ brain say something so dumb again. Control yourself
Do all 4090 react the same to your tweak? Small sample size. As you mentioned they have brilliant people there, must be a reason why they put the power settings this way, no?
I have similar results with my 4070Ti but agree we could have just won the silicon lottery
There is no reason for Nvidia to sell a 5090 for any less than $2k. It does not matter how it performs as long as its the current best. Remember the 90 class market makes up less than 5% of all the gpus out there. Its a flagship and as such people will pay. You know it. Nvidia knows it. It doesnt matter if the price to performance is awful. What nvidia needs to get right is 80 class pricing. Cut the 5080 down and charge $800 for it. The 4070ti super is just about what the real 4080 should have been at launch.
Side note. Even though 16gb of vram is enough for 99.9% of games for at least the next 4 years i cant fathom giving nvidia $1k+ for 16gb of vram. Either bring it down in price or stick more vram on it.
Because they're going to release a Titan variant for the high end. The 5090 will be $1599
The 4080 is what convinced me to buy a 4090. The 4080 was worse on price/performance than the flagship which should NEVER be the case. If it was done to make more people buy the 4090, sadly I fell for it.
@@badpuppy3 That would be the only scenario where that would happen. Could be.
@@badpuppy3 The issue with the 5090 being $1600, is that it will be much harder to get and you may not be able to buy one the second it drops, and it could be sold out for maybe a year etc... If it's priced at $2000 , you should be able to buy one on release date if you're there the minute it goes up for sale
This video did NOT age well...
Nvidia talking about placing the price between 2K & 2.5K.
No way in hell that's gonna go well.
I feel like these cards were overbuilt TO justify their MSRP, not the other way around. The AIBs had to make their own adjustments to the look and feel of the card to make the cards palatable at the offered prices, mostly set by NVidia, and also where most of the margin goes 😅
yess since 3090 and 4080 4090 release . Nvidia name them as Bfgpu to justify increased prices
That's what they said before 4090 release
The latest rumors suggest that 5090 will have 600 watt tdp. So i dont think that Nvidia is changing direction. Although if it is a 2 slot design. It will be very interesting to see the actual card.
2 slots and 600 watts though.... can you see that working out heat wise?
Danny has decded to weather the shit storm once the release price is announced.
lmao
TLDR; 5090 will be cheaper because it will use less power so will require less fancy cooling solutions.
This is not going to happen.
Due to contacts, expenses etc whatever…. YOU might get one for 1300 😂
Id be very very surprised if it’s much below 2k retail for everyone else.
Especially at launch.
It’ll no doubt creep down but I imagine the first batch will likely just get scalped anyway
Starting $1999 for the base version and have like many higher versions all the way up to $3000+.
$2500
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Based on nothing, your comment is complete nonsense.
Man's smokin some crazy hopium. Soon when the real prices drop he'll have to smoke copium
Wow, you might have to spend an extra 400. Literally nothing to non losers in life
Actually makes sense. People bought the 4090 for a 2x 3090 in performance. It exceeded expectations. What and why would people want to change or upgrade for more price when they are fine where they are? Lower the price and force them to reconsider. What would happen to the second hand 4090 and 3090 market. If they can pull it off, it's genius. There is a much bigger market this year than just gamers. People like me are in the market for multiple cards for home use.
I hope they fixed the melting problem
that was only happening to people using cheap cables that come with their cheap PSUs or bending the cable forcifully
@@cks2020693 that's been disproven by several RUclips channels, at least 5 that I personally have seen. Ages ago.
MSRP $1799 for founders, $2200 to $2500 for non founders.
Before the 4090 release, speculation were ramped with ppl thinking Nvidia will launch the 4090 at $2500 to $3,000 because of the specs and rumors that it absolutely destroys the 3090 and 3090Ti which launched with a high MSRP. As someone who had a 3090 and upgraded to the 4090, Yes the 4090 destroys my older 3090 and is way more power efficient but the 4090 still launched at $1,599. Every Gen this happens with price speculations, Nvidia knows what price range they have to stay within to sell their products. Personally, I'm guessing $1,799 for the RTX 5090 and $1,000 for the RTX 5080. "The more you spend, the more you save"
Impossible, for two reasons.
Jensen *at minimum* wants 60% margins, and if the card costs more to produce, assuming a bigger die and newer spec (and more) RAM, Jensen *will* raise prices.
Combine that with zero high end competition from AMD (not even a whimper, nothing) and you get *minimum* 1900 dollars, max 2500, but probably 2000.
Don’t forget that’s in USD, some nations pay orders of magnitude more for the cards due to weaker currencies, I’d be paying about 4K for a 5090 when the average salary is about 100,000 AUD, I’m paying *4%* of an average salary for *a singular component* let that sink in.
The process node will be a massive factor in determining the performance, price, and power efficiency of the RTX 50 Series. Since nothing has been confirmed yet, TSMC 3nm is still a possibility. It's definitely possible that the data centre chips and gaming GPUs could use a different process node despite being on the same architecture. If they do go for a TSMC 3nm node, it will likely be a custom 3N node to maximise the performance and efficiency of the RTX 50 Series.
You're not getting more than half the full die even with the 5090 this time and it's gonna be $3000.
I'll just make do with last gen stuff at lower price and just play less demanding games.
If there is something that I learned from business class, it's always who has the monopoly controls the market. As the rumor about AMD's decision to not rival or competes with high end cards of nvidia to focus on midrange gets truer and truer everyday, the more the 5090 would actually cost 2k and I will be so surprised if they will priced it anything below 2k
They're aiming to price at between 2k and 2.5k, realistically they want to price it at 2.5k. Dream on bud.
The xx90 is meant for workstations. Thats why it gets almost double the VRAM. Theres a market for it but it’s small, and Nvidia knows those people will pay whatever for it. I have a feeling the 5090 will cost 1999.99-2499.99, while the 5080 will be around 1,000-1200 to cater more to gamers. Imo they should keep the 5070 the same price as 4070 since the xx70 is usually the top seller each gen.
lower 5070 price
The 90 series of the NVIDIA "consumer" line of GPU's are for enthusiasts with more money than they know what to do with or people who might work with programs that benefit from having a stupid-strong GPU. Then there's those who need a GPU to train AI models and crypto miners but aren't willing to buy a $6-20k purposely designed cards for those workloads like the A6000, A100, H100 and so on, which main audience is businesses, not private consumers. That being said, the actual general consumer product starts on the 80 series, and even then, with the MSRP tag of $1200 or so... calling it a consumer product stinks almost as much as the 90's.
NVIDIA doesn't see their 90's series as gaming cards. They see it as the only product in the market that's capable of doing a little bit of everything remarkably well compared to all other products available to the general consumer - from gaming and content creation to AI training and crypto mining. So why would they put a cheap price tag on it when the card will still sell regardless of how much "gamers" complain about it? It's even worse when NVIDIA themselves already admitted they don't really care much about the "gaming" market since it represents like 10% of their total revenue and when AMD also admitted to a shift in focus to their mid-range GPU's back in 2022-2023 where they can actually compete? 🙃
I do wish the 5090 is going to be cheaper than the 4090 with every fiber of my being and I wish I'm proven wrong when the card is launched... but with everything I just enunciated above, I don't see it happening. Complaining about the pricing of their 90 series is like trying to bring down a skyscrapper with a toothpick.
I dont think the 5090 needs to be cheaper but rather the rest of the stack below it - the 4090 was the only Ada card which was reasonably priced for it's performance at MSRP.
Ive got an idea once the 5090Ti drops in another year or so for now you can by it for me around $2300 and sell it to me unopened and brand new for under $300...
all new games suck so who cares about running a fast computer, 1080p is fine when all new games suck anyway
They will release high, then re-release with a different name at a lower price when the sales does not meet expectations. For example the RTX3080, then RTX 3080 Super. They would have sold way more if they had initially released the RTX3080 Super.
lol at that raytracing benchmark running better than average game today (with RT off)
has the 4090 ever gone cheaper then the msrp?
No, so don't bet that the 5090 will be any cheaper. It will cost at least 2000 dollars.
I HATE RAY TRACING
I HATE RAY TRACING
I HATE RAY TRACING
Yep sir.RT is a marketing solution to sell overpriced card.
I rather believe they will rename the model they planned to be the 5080 as a 5090, charge 1400 for it (see, we lowered prices!) and call the former 4090 a 4090ti and charge 2000$ for that.
This is cope as hard as it gets. 5080 will be 1,200 5080 TI matching 4090 will be 1,699 and 5090 will be 1,999.
NO, for sure, more expensive... greed is greed
At least more expensive=easier to obtain on launch day.
dont want to be that guy but its likely to either maintain the current price or rise slightly
Its not the wattage that kills chips its the voltage. Pumping 1.45-1.6V into the ring bus is mostly the reason(it shares voltage with cores and 12.gen runs at much lower voltage here and not affected). I think the new 5090 will use the same power as the 4090. The power plug is fine, just a few bad apples and some not plugging the cable completely into lock. Or they wore out the connector by disconnecting the plug too often. The path of less resistance is doing the same as 4090 so thats what they'll do. You're logic in this vid doesnt add up. Same node and now they drop power and speed? WHY?! Ofc they need to keep the power up for more speed to use the dddr7 with increased bandwith/latency. More performance equals high price and good margins. This is what nVidia is all about. Amd just did the opposite and the cpus sells poorly.
Totally disagree about the power consumption here. Look, this is the flagship card, the best-of-the-best. When I bought my 4090 I wanted the best performance and power I could get of it to make my games look the best they could look with current technology and I want the exact same with the 5090.
I hear the 5090 will be 600 Watt power draw all the power to it. This is what we want, this is what I want! 😂
It's really odd you seem to be wishing Nvidia would NOT push for maximum achievable performance in the top-tier card, and are more interested in power savings. Are you really the target audience for this kind of card? Because that's quite the opposite of what I want. Go for a power-sipping midrange card with cheaper cooler if you care about that stuff. I want maximum capability possible every generation, with price being my only constraint. And yes I bought a $2k watercooled 4090 on launch day.
Hey Nvidia here’s an idea . Don’t release shiiii till you have plenty to release instead of backsliding to your own and selling for triple profit the first few months
NVIDIA 5090 100% will never EVER be cheap, the last elite, Top-Tier card that I bought back in the day for a FAIR price was the 1080 TI, and that was an eternity ago, and arguably the GOAT GPU of all time. However, even the 5070 which is what I was aiming for is rigged, by being only 12gb of RAM which is an absolute joke. I'm tired of this nonsense, and worst off, within a year, the 5070 Supers or whatever they are will be out too, mark my words, they will do this on purpose.
Hard cope.
wow over £1000 what a deal
Beelink or gmktec variants are very much needed
Make it $399 barebones
they have no competition.
Will be waiting for the 5060 or 5060ti... Maybe 2nd quarter 2025
I don't own a nuclear power plant
Nvidia just lost 280 billions, now they will think in gamers again.
Nvgreedia will price it sky high as always. We can be assured of that 👍
Price drop 😂
Nothing in life gets cheaper!
there is no competition amd will not compete for this generation high end so now it will not be cheaper sadly
Only way NVIDIA would drop price is if AMD could actually compete on high end.. Which they still currently cannot..
Cheaper lol. Mid cards are like near $1000 in some stores.
Don’t make me sell my 4090 bro chill lol
Nobody cares, they can Charge 5000$ for RTX5090. Just hope they charge 300$ For RTX5060 and up to 500$ For RTX5070. These are the cards people actually buy...
5060 starts at 800$ and 5070 1000-1200$.So sad story.....
@@markterek6232 560 800$ ? huh ?
Counter point: 6800 XT 🗿🍷
Ik for sure it won’t be above 2500
Over 2000 bank on it
Nah doubt it than a 5070 should cost 499€ :D
what a pipe dream its not ging to be cheaper h=but nice guess
It will never happen,I give that to you in written
We skipping the 5090
Nvidia? Cut prices? LOL
imagine actually thinking it will be cheaper so dum lmao
w3ith incoming recession, Nvidia RTX 5090 should be cheaper.
no it wont
you wish
Cheaper 😅
look at how the 4070 is now its a upgraded 3080 so i suspect the 5070 will be as strong as a 4070ti which will be a good jump
I suspect to the 5080 will be as strong as a 4080
And the 5090 will be the 4090ti
from the 1080 card I had since the month it came out I was getting great fps using 1440 high in every game I only upgraded cause I needed the newer tech for upscaling
So if I wasn't upscaling I still would have the gtx 1080 and still getting good fps
I only upgrade now for future updates to use more power of my card for topaz
But now I’m thinking 5070 will only be a little stronger than 4070
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