Dolores can’t keep a secret either; she had to talk to someone about it and her brother makes sense to talk to. If they tried to tell an adult, they could have been brushed a side and taught not to mention it again.
Actually, Delores shows incredible restraint throughout the movie. Only the part about Mirabel finding the last prophecy and might destroy the magic was too big for her to keep it from her family. Both sides of the family are pretty insular. And I just watched it again, Delores sang "I knew he never left, I heard him every day." There's no see at the beginning of that line. She is bragging to her kid brother, not reminding him of what she told him. Seriously though, Delores gets a bad rap for revealing what she heard from Mirabel and her dad but that's because it is an apocalyptic revelation, but she also had to be "perfect" for Abuella like Lusia and Isabella. I believe when she was younger and just experiencing her gift for the first time, she heard a lot of things and would share them with Abuella and the rest of her family, but Abuella didn't want her to be a gossip, so she learned to keep most things to herself. Almost all of the times we see her use her power, it is to pass information from Abuella or learn something Abuella wanted to know. By only using her power when Grandma wants, she makes sure she stays in the perfect column with Isabella, Lusia, and Julietta.
People say she’s the bad guy but I don’t fully see how. She can hear him but doesn’t mean from where. Also she told the whole family about Mirabelles secret in less than an hour
About the one with julieta, it makes sense, because how would Bruno be able to steal food without Julieta knowing AND Bruno also mentioned "free food" implieing that he might got the food from Julieta.
I think it was Dolores sneaking him food because at one point Felix scolds Camilio for pretending he was Dolores so he can have seconds as if that's the normal thing for her to be doing.
On Camilo's official wiki, it stated that the power of being able to transform into animals was just part of one of his past designs. The page specifically says : "...the staff decided to limit Camilo's shape-shifting ability to only people early in the production process..."
I’m not necessarily denying the fan theory, but children have incredible memories. His image of his uncle isn’t really incredibly spot on, but more of a scary version of Bruno. He remembers his uncle and combines it with the negative painting everyone creates of him.
I always thought Camilo just morphed into a version of Bruno he remembered from when he was a child. He says Bruno was seven feet and has a menacing, evil look which is not true but to a child at the time, it probably was. Bruno left as an adult so his features didn’t change that drastically from when he left and there was no way to know if Bruno didn’t already have rats as pets or friends before he “disappeared” but it’s possible since he seemed lonely. Knowing the rats beforehand was probably how he discovered the holes in the walls to runaway to
You are forgetting something about Casita. Julietta doesn't put things away. Casita does that. With a multigenerational family in a big house and her healing duties (which she conducts in the town square, not out of her house), I don't think she is like a modern chef who knows where everything is. Her reaction to seeing Bruno was genuine in the final song. I think only Delores knew and she didn't tell anyone else because her family cuts you off if you start talking about Bruno. Camilo is the town clown. His power is to delight others with his impersonations, like he did with his dad. So his day is spent boosting morale and delighting the townfolk. So he probably talks to the most people and gotten his impression of Bruno from their descriptions. I think if Julietta did know, she would leave food out for him, because she is so kind but I don't think she knew. So Bruno had to sneak it.
I think Julietta the healing cook knew. She would have had to. Any cook worth their salt knows exactly how much food to make to feed everyone and how much of each ingredient they need. Cooking (especially on a large scale) takes planning and preparation. If she didn’t know about Bruno being at the casita there would probably not have been food enough for him (a good cook never waists food if they can help it.) so it stands to reason that she intentionally left that food out for him. (Even if the casita cleans up after them.)
@@leannkennett905 she's making enough food for the whole town. She won't notice a couple things go missing over a day. He can go down to the kitchen whenever he wants, so it's not like he needs to hoard food. And then nothing's going to waste. People get sick or have accidents, so whatever she makes is going to be eaten, not counting regular daily meals.
@@tractorfeed7602 yes but if she’s actually cooking the food (which I assume she is) that requires a recipe. This means you need this much of x ingredients to make enough to feed x amount of people prepared as described. This would mean she would need to know how much food she made to adequately feed everyone and make the recipe properly. Any good cook would tell you that. They typically know exactly how much they made and how many it should serve and exactly what is left over. It’s just being a good cook.
I don't think Camilo knew because when you watch the end and they are all singing Camilo is standing next to Dolores and when she sings her part about knowing he never left cause she heard him everyday, Camilo looks at her like "what the heck? You knew he was here all along and never told anyone?"
He could theoretically have gotten the knowledge of Bruno's appearance from pictures, after all... and if Camilo had spent time with Bruno, why give a description that makes him sound like (as someone else once put it) some sort of eldritch horror? It's an interesting idea but it just doesn't add up.
0:36 in this video shows Dolores singing "We don't talk about Bruno" and there is a crouching figure sneaking across the upper hallway in the background. Dolores intentionally keeps Mirabel facing away from that figure.
Wooooah! 😬😬 never noticed that. Literally went back to the time stamp 4 times!! Thanks for this, definitely backs up the fact that Delores knew the entire time. Not to mention, there’s a theory that she’s the true antagonist of the family. It makes sense, when you’re quiet, everyone can look over you as you plot your next move. Dolores and her mom had the most malignant gifts out of the whole family.
I always thought Bruno's "perks of kitchen adjacent" comment directly reffered to his sister feeding him. As in, Bruno wasn't aware she knew, but there always managed to be an extra serving of everything she made sitting around for him to have. If she wasn't doing it intentionally and believed her brother had left, she would have been worried about a massive rat infestation.
It makes sense that Julieta knows and was covered up for him because she is a chef and spends probably nearly all her time in the kitchen . If you think about it some days she probably not only make food for Bruno late at night but she also would need to make a lot of other food considering she practically feeds the whole village while healing the sick as well
Camilo's transformation into Bruno has two details that indicate it's turned from a past memory of Bruno: 1) Camilo's Bruno has black hair, rather than the sightly greying hair; and 2) the eyes are green-Bruno's eyes only turn green when he is delivering a prophecy. They are normally brown.
The way Camilo gestures after Dolores says "I knew he never left, I heard him everyday" makes me think Camilo didn't know. It seemed like a "why the heck didn't you say anything Dolores" gesture and facial expression. However, I agree that Julieta would have noticed bits of food going missing over time. Plus when Bruno appeared at the end, Pepa was clearly shocked, while Julieta looked more relieved than shocked imo. That plus how she never had a part in "we don't talk about Bruno" always made me think she was probably more empathetic to her brother over the years than some of the other relatives were. So she probably understood why he was hiding out and, considering it involved her daughter Mirabel, kept quiet, as she knew Abuela would push Mirabel away like she pushed Bruno away.
If you think abt it, the song itself mostly frames Bruno in a negative light, except for one person, Julieta's daughter Isabella. All the negative association with him in the family seems to mostly come from Pepa's side, which makes sense since she still hasn't forgiven him for the wedding fiasco. Pepa probably told Dolores & Camilo bad stories about their uncle, leading to their knowledge about him (mostly Camilo since he clearly saw him as a creepy villain). Julieta obvi didn't tell Mirabel anything abt her uncle, and Isabella & Luisa knew Bruno before he left but also didn't tell Mirabel anything about him. Basically Julieta's side of the family didn't gossip or frame Bruno as a villain who makes bad things happen, whereas Pepa probably (accidentally) taught her kids that that's exactly who he was.
@@jenkinsjrjenkins It is unlikely that Pepa would have talked about Bruno with her kids since she was really reluctant to talk about him with Mirabel. So I guess that Camilo got his "information" from the villagers.
I think that Dolores and Julieta know but not sure about Camilo, I’m gonna rewatch the end of the movie ‘cause that’s when Bruno came and see who all are surprised
Will if Camilo did turn him self in to a rat maybe that could explain the 7 foot frame becoues of bin a rat bruno would look very tall to him.I know they there a theory that Camilo seem bruno get good from the Kitchen when camilo was about 5 or so but. I don’t think bruno would look like he had a 7 foot frame i think when. Camilo said when he call your name it all fades to black mack more sense if. Camilo seen bruno get food and Camilo Fainting when bruno say his name.
I think that Camilo had suspicions... a lot of suspicions. When you take into the fact Dolores indirectly gives secrets, speaking in present tense about her uncle, and so forth, it'd be strange if no one else had wonders about both her and Bruno. It makes sense to be cami, sense he has a "spot on" description of him in the verse. Now, things are clearly exaggerated. I think Camilo was simply another victim of feeling like he had to spread lies about Bruno to fit in. (I also have a theory that there are three golden children, the ones with the "best" powers. Julieta, Isabela, AND Camilo, which fits in here now.) So, even if Cami has no memories and no sides picked on the subject of his rat loving uncle, why wouldn't he want to keep up a reputation, even if that included... well... going too far and dehumanizing Bruno. No one else did that, not even Pepa. He knows Bruno makes Pepa unhappy. Félix and him are the ones to comfort her. (See how Félix just parrots her in the song? See how Camilo is also calming her after the dinner?) It checks out. However, I think it was confirmed by the creators that ideas of Camilo shifting into animals were dropped. (Good. A shapeshifter is tricky, they shouldn't have unlimited power. See the "worth a shot" scene.) So, I don't think he directly saw Bruno, unless he went in the walls as a human, but thatd make him the new Mirabel, in which case the movie would've been made about him, but it wasn't. That leaves it all up to wise Dolores and whatever hellish rumors passed around the town. That's what I think Camilo knows and how he feels about Bruno. Just my own headcanons though, but I think the little evidence I have checks out :)
I could see Julieta knowing it, but I doubt that Camilo knew it. Bruno was very lonely when he was younger, so I think he always kept the rats around as companions. That's how Camilo would know about it. But Julieta makes sense. Like, it's impossible for Bruno not to get hurt, so I think Julieta was a good one for him to reach out when he needed someone. She's also understanding and I'm sure she would be thankful that he fled to protect her daughter from the profecy
With the 'Camilo turning into a rat and eventually stumbling across Bruno' theory, perhaps that explains why Camilo describes him as 7 feet tall when he most certainly isn't. From a rat's perspective, people sure would be tall.
I would add up that camilo at some point told Antonio about bruno. When antonio comes out from nowhere and told Bruno and Mirabel to use his room, he wasnt even phased by seeing Bruno for the first time. So Antonio definitly knew about bruno but he was too pure hearted to say anything.
Camilo's version of Bruno is supposed to look like the one you see in the family's mural since it's the only thing he has to go by. Pale, dirty and glowing eyes at all times, he is using that plus the things his parents tell him to make a exaggerated caricature of his uncle lol
I think Julieta's husband and Luisa at least also knew, because Julieta would have told them to make sure they helped her keep his presence a secret from Abuela, who is the person who most needed to be kept out of the loop. Julieta is probably the person that is making sure everyone else who knows keeps the secret. It is also possible, though not certain, that Dolores' hints to Mirabel were an agreed upon thing with everyone who already knew, because they'd decided it was time Mirabel knew, before she ended up finding out and telling Abuela before they could stop her.
I'd say Delores and Julieta but not Camillo. The kitchen arrangement is valid but point to remember, Casita can arrange things on its own to some extent. It pours coffee in the morning for everyone, flips the pan with the arepas, can send out plates for Mirabel to set the table. If Julieta makes an extra plate per say, it can help get it closer to Bruno to pick up undetected.
Plot twist: Everyone except abuela knew Bruno was in there but respected his privacy and desire to get away from the 'family business' enough to keep it a secret and so never realized that everyone else already knew about it. I make an exception for abuela because no way would she have ever possibly been chill about him 'lazing about not using his gift to help people'.
Oh for sure, Julieta knew! She most likely made extra food just so "someone" could get something to eat if they were awake late at night!! All family cooks do this! Leftovers are better than an empty plate!
Camilo’s Reaction when Bruno shows up at the end makes it seems like he obviously did not know about Bruno. He say in a questioning tone “ are we gonna talk about Bruno?” And Dolores shoves Camilo when she says I knew he was there like she was smug about the fact she was right
i don't think Delores kept Bruno a secret. in the song we don't talk about Bruno, she uses present tense not past, and even says she knows he's around when he is the background of the song. she makes several other hints throughout the movie. Rather I think it's more that the rest of the family doesn't want to hear it, after all "they don't talk about Bruno." So, it more likely that every time she first started to bring it up, she was shushed about the matter, esp. by her mother.
The thing about Camilo is that he enjoys pranks, meaning an argument could be made that he transforms into Bruno to scare his family members as a prank.
Personally I think it was the other way around with the female Madrigual triplets If you look closely at Julieta and Pepa’s reaction when Alma accepts Bruno back into the family Julieta is shocked whereas Pepa’s is more glad to see her brother
She didn't tell anybody because that's how Bruno wanted it and she might have been aware of how much the family hurt him and didn't want to either force him to completely break with the family he clearly still loves or have to suffer their dark interpretation of him and his gift again.
The one problem I see with the Camilo theory is, that we never saw him transform into an animal. And since he never does, it begs the question if he really can turn into an animal. During th scene where he's being hit by lightning he also transforms into various family members, but not into animals. I'd argue, if he could and had some sort of malfunction of his power, animals would be part of the transformation. Though the theory of Julieta knowing about her brother being present has some merrit.
something I want to mention is during the song All Of You Camilo asks "so we gonna talk about Bruno". In saying that it is implying that Camilo all ready knows that he is seeing his Tio Bruno. While Antonio asks "that is Bruno"? Implying Antonio did not know what Bruno looked like but Camilo did. And as Deluxe mentions in the video I doubt Camilo would know much about what Bruno looked like yet he still somehow knows in the song All Of You he was seeing Bruno
I think it would make sense that Camilo knew about Bruno because Mirabel doesnt remember what Bruno looks like as well as Camilo does, and he's the closest in age to her out of all the grandkids.
You mean besides the fact that there is a wall art of ALL of the family in town, and also Brunos door picture. Also, the kitchen family tree art on the wall. Which has Bruno as an adult, he would easily just to be able to do that. Bruno also isn't 7 ft frame, so that is part of the song dismissed.
SOMEONE had to feed the man, so of course someone knew about him. Dolores may have heard him, but who fed him? If Camilo knew, he could have left food around for the rats to take to Bruno, or he could have taken the food himself. If Dolores, Camilo AND Julieta knew, especially Julieta, it would have been easy to keep Bruno fed and hid
Even though you said that Julieta would notice food disappearing I feel she wouldn’t, not because she’s absent minded but because she’d likely assume Camilo would snatch them, we all saw Camilo stealing 10 arepas, she probably assumes it him, as well as that maybe Camilo or Dolores gets him food, but I feel Julieta is very un aware
I just realized something in the background when watching the scene with Mirabel talking to Julieta in the kitchen-- the rats are carrying away some food. Hmm, I wonder to whom they are delivering this food ;)
Sorry but Julieta’s face when she sees Bruno at the end of the film says it all. She clearly had no idea her brother never left because she wouldn’t have been so shocked to see him if she had known.
I sort of get the impression that the whole point behind the song We Don't Talk About Bruno was more about the keeping of a family taboo and that the family was keeping the secret from Abuela. I sadly, see this sort of thing all the time when a patriarch/matriarch shuns a family member for something like homosexuality and the other family members continue relationships with him/her in secret. That was why the whole "coming back into the light" thing was so powerful.
I agree with Julieta knowing, but I think a) its never said that Cameilo has to have seen him and not just the painting of Bruno, b) he seems surprised when Bruno shows up, and c) he's not 7 feet (seen compared to Mirabel and others) nor is he ever seen with rats on his back, so I think this is just rumors of fear. So I don't think he knew. But I do think Julieta knew.
It's entirely possible that Antonio knew about Bruno being in the walls considering he can understand what animals are saying. He heard about Bruno's story & what he looked like & a rat confirmed with Antonio that Bruno was there.
Also not convinced on Julieta knowing since it was shown Camilo has changed into others to sneak extra helpings of a food. So missing food is more easily explained by this rather than her brother was literally in the walls. Julieta seemed to have no issue with Bruno and seems to kind to let him be banished like that.
I’ve always thought Camilo was remembering his last memory of what Bruno looked like during his part, hence why his part started with “7 feet tall” or something like that
I also thought Julieta knew cuz of the reasons stated. Antonio was pretty calm when he did find out, and I kinda wish we had gotten a scene of them rly being introduced properly, maybe an awkward hug, etc... he just kinda shows up with his animal troop cuz the rats told him what's going on, but he and Bruno act like they weren't total strangers to each other. No words between them when they meet. I just thought it was kind of weird.
I always thought someone had to know bc for one how does Camilo shapeshift into Bruno and he never seen the guy and Delores can hear an eye twitch but they didn’t say nun bc they can’t talk about Bruno so bringing him up would just make the family mad
I think that this theory is true but false. Camillo and Dolores make a lot of sense because in we don't talk about bruno, they were the only ones describing bruno as for isabela and pepa were telling stories and predictions bruno had for their family and them. Julieta, however, i don't think is correct because there is just physically no way that bruno could sneak so much food through that one tiny crack. Plus, even if it was at night, how would there be any food left for bruno?
felix told camilo to not turn into dolores so he could have seconds. this is clear proof that dolores deliberately took seconds so she could help bruno survive.... even the arepa he held is proof that someone was leaving food for him so that he would not starve...
"Seven foot frame" if Camilo only ran into Bruno while on the form of a rat, it would make sense for him to not be able to properly tell how tall Bruno is I like to think Julieta made extra food for Bruno, and if she didn't know who was stealing the food (unlikely but still) I believe she still would have made extras for the thief (she might have thought it was Camilo, since he has been seem "stealing" food in the movie....... if Camilo knew about Bruno but Julieta only knew the food was being taken by someone, Camilo could pretend it was him so Bruno wouldn't get caught.... There is also the funny possibility that neither of them knew about Bruno and every morning it was like: "Camilo, if you want extras you can just ask" "again!? I already said it wasn't me!" "Sure ☺️")
Also at the beginning Julieta told Mirabel to be careful because “my brother Bruno lost his mind in this family” which implies that in addition to knowing that he chose to hide from his family she is also aware of the psychological burdens weighing on Bruno and how that affected his mental state, so could show that she knew where he was and how he was behaving all along.
Wellllll….although Felix isn’t a blood Madrigal, he is the storyteller & the memory of the family. In “we don’t talk about bruno”, Pepa has to assert herself to sing about her own wedding day because Felix can’t help but interject. In a deleted scene when Felix, Augustine & Mirabel are assigned to clean for Antonio’s party because they don’t have gifts, Felix is the one who tells Mirabel what happened to make Bruno leave (but he was named Oscar in that scene!). Camillo is slightly older than Mirabel so he may have a little more memory about Bruno but not much more than Mirabel. Assuming Camillo never shapeshifted into a rat, any memory gaps would have been filled in by Felix. Pepa says “we don’t talk about Bruno BUT” then proceeds to talk about Bruno. The Pepa-Felix side of the family talks about Bruno. Just not in front of Abuela or the Julieta-Augustine side of the family. My 2 cents!
I think it's actually a joke nod to the audience when Dolores says she knew Bruno was there the whole time. When Mirabel was looking for the problem with the magic, Dolores tells her that the rats in the wall are also worried. We know that: 1) Dolores has no reason to NOT tell everyone if she knew Bruno was in the house, she seems to never have a problem answering questions or telling people what's happening. And, 2)Bruno does multiple voices and personas while he does his acting (his true gift) And so my conclusion is Dolores had no idea at first, but when she met Bruno she realized and made the claim she knew he was there the whole time. Kinda sorta a nod to those siblings that everyone has who SAYS "I knew the whole time" just to annoy their siblings/cousins
Plus, there were paintings of him all over the place with the rest of the Madrigals. Camilos memory + faded paintings + town rumors & his mom's thoughts abt Bruno = super tall spooky man who likes rats & scaring people
i think it all makes sense and julieta is too kind too expose him but alma did pray for a miracle and she does hate him a bit so just to use bruno's powers she must have kept it a secret
Camilo did not know, because Antonio points out well duh he's Bruno, and Dolores tells him: "she knew he was still them because she could hear him every day" and Camilo showed confusion about him both times
I think this is what Camilo new his mom probably told him about everything about Bruno maybe that’s why he knew what Bruno look like or his mom showed him a picture of Bruno
Hmmmm.... I don’t know about Julieta knowing about Bruno's existence inside Casita. I understand the point of a chef knowing when things are out of place or missing in the kitchen, and although Bruno could’ve come out from his hiding place and gotten things from the kitchen, let’s not forget there’s also a certain Madrigal who is quite the avid eater: Camilo. Him trying to get seconds while pretending to be Dolores is a sign. And with his mischievous personality, Julieta could come to the conclusion that Camilo is playing pranks on her just to get some food.
I think Abuela DID know he was in the walls and WAS using him. I think she knew he was keeping the house from falling… That family is veeeery good at keeping secrets. I think all the sisters knew but were protecting their brother.
I think I'm pretty keen on believing both of the options. I actually had my theory about Julieta knowing about Bruno since I've watched the movie, but never thought of Camilo, but it does makes sense. If he can still transform into animals - I wouldn't say so honestly. If he was, it would be shown in the film in my opinion, and it was just a scratched idea to not mess around with the plot anymore or something. I could see the writers deciding it's just a bit much and only stick with human transformations.. BUT, if he still can, then, I think, since on the drawing, he changed into a capybara, the fact that in Bruno's vision also, a capybara was inside it watching it all, perhaps they wanted it to be a "fun fact" of sort and it actually was Camilo? Maybe he spoke with Antonio beforehand and he thought that, why not, he can listen :0.
A lot to unpack.: Deloris would have shared the nursery with both Isabella and Louisa. It shows that she is pretty much ignored most the time no one hears her UNLESS they want something from her. She most likely tried several times to tell people but was shushed with "we don't talk about Bruno" Or said she heard something in the walls was told it was just the rats. Camillo: Bruno states h is true gift was acting which was the gift that Camillo got. I think he spent a lot of time with Bruno before he disappeared. He seemed surprised when Deloris said she knew he was there all the time. It is possible he spent time with him shape shifting into a rat it is also possible he was the one bringing him food. Sister: I think she would have shared with her husband he was in the walls I don't think Phelix would have said anything even if he knew. He is very loyal to his family. Though he does have trouble hiding his emotions so it is possible she may not have told him. IF she knew Bruno did not know she knew.
Aside from Julieta, I disagree that Camilo knew anything about Bruno. (for this, we aren't going off of/considering that Jared Bush's tweets are 100% canon) 1. Camilo could turn into a rat. If he could turn into animals, and he did visit his uncle at some point, then he would literally have no reason to demonize him during his part in WDTAB. He describes him like a monstrous being, a cartoony boogeyman meant to fit what seems like local town taboo stories. Bruno is nice and shy, the opposite of what he sings in WDTAB. While we could bring in the argument that he was trying not to seem suspicious and follow along the town's rumors and disapproval of him like his mother, I feel as if he would be extremely guilty singing that if he has met Bruno and know that he heavily contrasts the rumors. And, about how he remembers his uncle's appearances that well. I could bring in 2 theories of mine. One, he truly studied each and everyone's appearance precariously ever since he got his gift or perhaps even before that (Bruno left the night of Mirabel's ceremony, and Camilo is older than Mirabel by a few months, so he has his gift for a while before Bruno left). Two, he could only vaguely remember what his uncle looked like and had extra help by photographs or art of him (his gift ceremony photo, the faded depiction of him on the madrigal family tree, the depiction of him on the town mural, or maybe other photographs of him that the family disposed of after his disappearance out of guilt and hatred.) 2. Camilo was told this by Dolores. Now, I don't deny that Dolores trusts and loves her brother very much. but she kept Bruno's whereabouts as a secret for a reason. Bruno definitely was already pushed aside or disapproved of even before his disappearance, with Dolores remembering how his gift affected him and how his reputation slowly crumbled because her family couldn't understand his prophecies. In fact if it wasn't for her zipped mouth the movie couldn't have happened. And she might've felt as if, revealing where he was living would only cause more harm than good, it was simply not the right circumstances for him to have revealed himself. What I believe Dolores believed was that, she could feel sympathy for Bruno, but at the end of the day still believed he did bring doom, even if it wasn't his intention of doing so (such as, she participated at the end of Camilo's part by waving a finger at Mirabel singing, "noooo", definitely still believes him to be a bad omen even if he didn't mean to. after all, not only is her mother Pepa but that it's a reference as to this big of a secret she's keeping, so even she is enforcing not to talk about him). Keeping himself away was what Bruno wanted and Dolores didn't betray him for it. So, back to my point, Dolores had no reason to tell anybody about Bruno since nobody asked any good of him (technically not even Mirabel since she only asked Dolores about what's happening to the magic), and if she did tell Camilo and to an extension inform him about what he is like and why she is keeping this secret, Camilo would have no reason, or rather, no motivation in the first place to actively bash him in WDTAB. rather he would've stayed in the sidelines or stayed quiet when Bruno is mentioned just like Dolores is. Her part in WDTAB was never about bashing him, she was not only dropping subtle clues as to where he is but informing Mirabel on the circumstances of the family and what his life had become because of judgment and misunderstanding.
Apart from all these theoretical insinuations, isn't it concerning that only Mirabel and Isabella's beds were shown in the movie. Because now this leads to the assumption that only those who are "not extremely useful" to the family Madrigal have rest while the others whose powers are used extensively don't. Well, I could official say, "With great power comes great responsibility".
Dolores knows that Bruno is in the walls, obviously. Camilo and Julieta do not know that he's there. Dolores keeping Bruno's secret for ten years while blabbering about Mirabel's vision could be the fact that she DID try to tell the adults when Bruno left, but with the adults worried and panicked about a missing family member, she was pushed to the side and told to stay out of the way. By the time she was able to get the adults attention, the rule of "Don't talk about Bruno" was in effect and every time she brought it up the adults would remind her of the rule. After multiple times of trying, she just gave up talking about it. As far as Camilo - Are people forgetting that there is a freaking FAMILY TREE WITH BRUNO'S IMAGE on it as an adult right there in the dining room? Or what about the mural that Mirabel sings in front of during "The Family Madrigal" that has the entire family, again including Bruno, while talking to the kids in the town? That is how he knows what he looks like. As far as the other parts of his song, it could have been from rumors/stories that the town folk have said, maybe to scare kids into behaving. Bruno did kind of become the "boogeyman" of encanto through the years. The part where maybe Camilo transformed into an animal from the Art of Encanto book. That's just it, the art book is kind of like a behind the scenes documentary of what the creators where thinking about doing, not everything that they thought of made it into the final movie. Jared Bush, the director of Encanto, said in a twitter after being asked if Camilo can change into an animal that no, he can not. With Julieta - Yes, she's the cook for the entire Encanto, but I seriously doubt that everybody in the town would get injured in the same day. I suspect that Julieta cooks more food than she needs in case of emergencies. Better to have more food that could be snacked on later (even if it didn't have a healing power behind it, not sure if the magic stayed in the food until eaten or if it dwindles out over time) than not enough food that people have to suffer while she runs back to casita to make a new batch. These extra foods would probably not have been hand counted in the way of direct numbers. Which means that Bruno could have sneaked out of the walls and grabbed two or three pieces of food without anybody being wiser. And if she did question the lost of any utensils or food, there is a perfect scapegoat to blame it on.... CAMILO. He was shown to try to sneak second helpings of food. Who's to say that he didn't get blamed a couple of times for trying to get a midnight snack. Which could also be a thing as to how he may have known about the rats if villagers didn't talk about them. Maybe Camilo when he was younger tried for a snack in the middle of the night and ran into Bruno on a food run with the rats? But then passed it off as a weird dream. Antonio would have known Bruno was in the walls the day after his gift ceremony, which is why he showed up in the walls to offer his room to them. If i got the gift to talk to animals, you better believe sleep would be the last thing on my mind and I would talk to every animal that I could find. And obviously, the rats would have mentioned about the man in the walls.
Listening to this, I do agree that they'd know he was there. Cooks almost always know when their stuff was moved, dolores can hear everything BUT she also obviously CANT keep a secret. I do agree with camilo and maybe the three of them would talk about it? I mean, dolores would HAVE to have done SOMETHING to keep her mouth shut if I'm quite honest.
True, but if Camillo was a rat when he first sees Bruno, then Bruno would appear giant and a 7 foot frame would probably seem like a rational guesstimate.
@@Dragan3rd The idea of camillo turning into animals was scrapped as mentioned in the book. He can't turn into animals in the final movie which means that the theory is debunked.
I don’t believe that Julieta didn’t know because she was shocked when she saw Bruno with Maribel and Alma but I do believe Camilo’s case because I don’t think he would tell anyone about Bruno especially to her mother Pepa so that’s out of the question and if there’s an actual sequel that shows he may turn into a animal that will definitely prove that he knew all along
Bruno's first appearance in the film was at 9 min 50 sec into the film, not WDTAB. this is proof that bruno has left his hideout a few times before during those 10 years so there is a high possibility that Camilo must've seen bruno quite recently. "7 foot frame , rats along his back" this can be both how camilo viewed his uncle when he was 5 and also reference to the picture frame sealing Bruno's secret hideout...
To possibly debunk the first theory of how Camilo could accurately shapeshifter into Bruno is simply the graffiti in the first song The family Madrigal, where there is a graffiti on the back wall where Mirabel is showing of all members of the Family to the 3 litlle kids where directly in the middle of the graffiti is Bruno, so Camilo’s part in “We don’t talk about Bruno” could be of memorie of this exact Graffiti most likely in the middle of the Town?
Julieta... maybe. But Camilo? No. If you check his Wiki page it says that he can only turn into people, not animals or objects. Maybe he was going to at one point, but it was scrapped.
But come to think of it Pepa could have known Bruno was here: she forbade everyone to talk about him because she didn’t want him to appear in front of the family, and that would explain why a storm cloud appears every time someone insinuates something about Bruno because she doesn’t want everyone else to find out. Also in the end when Bruno came back Julieta seemed genuinely surprised but Pepa just looked moved and teary instead of shocked, so it could show that she knew he was there but just could not bring herself to forgive him until the end.
Originally Camilo would have been able to turn to animals. But that same book mentioned this idea was scrapped and he can only turn to humans. So this theory is already debunked by is own source material
Actually there’s some lines that Julieta says about Bruno that leads you to think that maybe she knew about him all along plus the fact that she runs the kitchen and she knows where everything is at and it would be very hard for her to not notice that food was going missing. Plus the fact that out of anybody she probably spent more time in Kaseeta than anybody else except for maybe Abuela and so she would actually know the noises and the inner workings of Casita better than almost everybody except for maybe Mirabel because Mirabel is so close to Kaseeta so in a lot of ways she would have more opportunity to catch Bruno as he’s sneaking away to get food and this that and the other. Now whether or not Bruno knew that Julieta knew he was in there might be a different conversation and it’s very clear that Bruno doesn’t think that a lot of his family knows that he’s there so the fact that this knowledge might belong to more than one person in the magical family doesn’t mean that it’s a two-way street. I think that everyone involved with the secret probably understood that Bruno couldn’t let them know that he was in there and they couldn’t let him know that they knew otherwise they might’ve lost him forever.
Bruno didn't look exactly like Camilo depicted him. They had a whole other model just for the way Camilo depicted him (called "Diablo Bruno"). "The Art of Encanto" shows a lot of art from development, which has greatly changed. Animals are not Camilo's thing, and there is no evidence at all in the film that he can change into them. I think, if he could in the finished product, they would have shown him do it at least once, when he was losing control of his powers. The closest they show is the rats on Bruno, which seem more like accessories to his Bruno costume. When Dolores says at the end that she knew he was there and heard him every day, this is said with an elbow to Camilo, as if to say, "I told you so.", which would indicate that he didn't believe her, not that he agreed. They said somewhere in the comments on social media that Camilo's depiction of Bruno was based on his foggy memories of Bruno, from ten years before, mixed with Camilo's love for the dramatic, comparing him to a theater kid. Julieta wouldn't have known if there was food missing, when we know just from the one full meal we see, Camilo (being the growing boy he was) was known for using tricks to try to get extra food. I'm sure, if there was food swiped, she would have probably assumed that it was just Camilo. You're also ignoring Julieta's expression when Bruno appears at the end, which is one of shock and overwhelming relief at seeing her brother again, which she wouldn't have had if she'd known all along that he was there and fine. The only person who seems to not be surprised and overjoyed at seeing him is Dolores. Dolores didn't keep it a secret. She obviously had mentioned it to Camilo and tried to tell Mirabel in "We Don't Talk About Bruno.". Besides that, if Julieta knew that her little brother was hiding in the walls of Casita, don't you think she would have said something when the house collapsed, rather than only looking for Mirabel? I'm sorry, but none of this flies.
"Dolores could keep a secret!" ... except she tells Mirabel in "We Don't Talk About Bruno" that she can hear him. Sure it's not super specific and all but she clearly mentions she can hear him. She even hints at it with the "Rats in the walls". Plus the only reason I don't think Camilo or Julieta knew are their reactions to him at the end. Because when Dolores says "I knew he never left, I heard him every day" he looks at her like "what? and you told no one!? seriously?!" and Julieta looks just as stunned as Pepa. Sure - those two reactions could be an act, but Julieta doesn't seem the type to fake her emotions - she is very heart on her sleeve. Not afraid to look worried when her husband doesn't - and she even is willing to repeatedly talk to her mother about laying off of Mirabel despite how hard she's being [which also suggests Abuela was less harsh on her kids than she is with the grandkids]. Also, while yes, Camilo was unlikely to see his uncle in those 10 years - the flash back to Mirabel's day shows Bruno looking no different than he does now and Camilo's version was exaggerated [I mean come on Bruno is literally shorter than his sisters, and Camilo says he's seven feet tall]. Plus he has the door to go off of for sure, plus I'm sure he's done the impression more than once and likely gotten tips. Plus we don't fully know how his powers work for shape shifting, he might not need to see someone for all we know. I mean sure that makes less sense - but hey.
The rats make sense for Camillo to have known about Bruno, but they show family pictures being taken more than once, Bruno's picture is on his door and I think it's also on the family tree, so he had references for what Bruno looked like. Also, Camillo says "7 foot frame" in the song, but Bruno is short.
I feel like Camilo could’ve known, maybe, even though he doesn’t look like he does when Dolores mentions it. But Julieta could’ve easily blamed food being missing or something in the kitchen being moved on Camilo. I mean he does like to steal food, judging by how he acts at lunch.
Or Camillo saw the mural in the town to see how bruno looked. I doubt camillo knew bruno was there. Julietta I can believe noticed the missing food and been silent
After Antonio got his gift the rats and mice told him Bruno was in the walls but the animals didn't know his name to tell him who he is, when Marabella said to not let anyone know Antonio said "I know, the rats told me" and until Bruno was revealed he didn't know his name he said "That's Bruno?"
Camilo can't turn into animals. And why does Bruno need to wait for anybody to bring him food when he can just go downstairs to the kitchen and get it himself?
All of the "deleted scene" story boards from Frozen 2 show how, in the course of making a movie, many ideas are considered and then abandoned. So the question, did anyone actually see Camilo change into anything other than another human in the finished movie is valid. Once Isabella started experimenting, she found that she could create plants she had never actually seen before. It stands to reason that Camilo could take on the appearance of someone he hasn't seen in years, especially since he didn't seem to be putting much thought into his changes. If Camilo had actually seen Bruno hiding in the Casita, he would have either told Abuela so she could send men with machetes after him or presented him as a sympathetic character in "We don't talk about Bruno." The way Dolores whacked Camilo in the arm and said, "I told you he never went away," makes it clear that they had argued about it a lot, that her never took her seriously.
Why is this video ignoring the fact that there is a picture of Bruno in town, together with the rest of the family? Also, his face is literally on his door! Why wouldn't the kids know how he looked? Dolores is shown as someone who can't keep a secret. The moment she hears Mirabelle and her dad, they act as though it's obvious she'll tell, meaning she's known to not keep secrets. That's logical considering her gift.
All the theories make sense because camilo was a child when he last saw Bruno and I don't think he could remember anything apart from his face and some of the things he did because ten years is a while back
@@jessy.kins. yh true but can you explain how he perfectly pictured Bruno when Mirabel can even remember Bruno at all and yet they are only a few weeks apart from each other
Peppa was playing the long game. She wanted the magic to die so she would lose her gift without upsetting her mother. She convinced Delores to tell Mirabelle that nothing was wrong with Casita. That set the while quest to find Bruno in motion.
I think the most solid evidence is 4:48 that scene literally shows him turning into Bruno and then he makes the rats (as u can see the eyes are green) how would he know to make the rats? Unless he seen him with the rats?
Camillo's interpretation wasn't exact, the only thing right was the hair and face, and that is not even right too, and also the height he said, he probably got the information from the door and the town people, and they didn't say more in the song because it was secondary and Camillo already said it, they are not going to mention "The guy had rats with him" everytime. and Julieta's surprise is genuine when seeing him, about the food, probably Casita, because we have seen it storing the food, and given that Bruno or "Hernando" repaired the cracks, Casita would give him food, besides him being a family member
In the song "we dont talk about bruno Camelo said "seven foot FRAME" the frame that bruno uses to go in and out of the walls and inside the casita, how he know? And also when mirabel and bruno talk at the end of the talk antonio walks in and says "the rats told him everything, so when did they tell him?
Dolores can’t keep a secret either; she had to talk to someone about it and her brother makes sense to talk to. If they tried to tell an adult, they could have been brushed a side and taught not to mention it again.
Actually, Delores shows incredible restraint throughout the movie. Only the part about Mirabel finding the last prophecy and might destroy the magic was too big for her to keep it from her family. Both sides of the family are pretty insular. And I just watched it again, Delores sang "I knew he never left, I heard him every day." There's no see at the beginning of that line. She is bragging to her kid brother, not reminding him of what she told him. Seriously though, Delores gets a bad rap for revealing what she heard from Mirabel and her dad but that's because it is an apocalyptic revelation, but she also had to be "perfect" for Abuella like Lusia and Isabella. I believe when she was younger and just experiencing her gift for the first time, she heard a lot of things and would share them with Abuella and the rest of her family, but Abuella didn't want her to be a gossip, so she learned to keep most things to herself. Almost all of the times we see her use her power, it is to pass information from Abuella or learn something Abuella wanted to know. By only using her power when Grandma wants, she makes sure she stays in the perfect column with Isabella, Lusia, and Julietta.
Mabye she talked to Juleta
Dolores also had a reason to disrupt the dinner, she knew the chaos would interfere with Mariano's proposal.
Guys, that's why Camillo was always asking for seconds.
People say she’s the bad guy but I don’t fully see how. She can hear him but doesn’t mean from where. Also she told the whole family about Mirabelles secret in less than an hour
About the one with julieta, it makes sense, because how would Bruno be able to steal food without Julieta knowing AND Bruno also mentioned "free food" implieing that he might got the food from Julieta.
How’s that helping?
I think it was Dolores sneaking him food because at one point Felix scolds Camilio for pretending he was Dolores so he can have seconds as if that's the normal thing for her to be doing.
Julieta probably makes extras, in part for the town, in part because the pantry would double as a first-aid kit.
Guys guys, that's why Camillo was always going for seconds. He would give the extra food to Bruno.
Or at least that Julieta is making enough food to feed Bruno as well as the rest of of the family.
On Camilo's official wiki, it stated that the power of being able to transform into animals was just part of one of his past designs. The page specifically says : "...the staff decided to limit Camilo's shape-shifting ability to only people early in the production process..."
I’m not necessarily denying the fan theory, but children have incredible memories. His image of his uncle isn’t really incredibly spot on, but more of a scary version of Bruno. He remembers his uncle and combines it with the negative painting everyone creates of him.
There also the painting of the family in the beginning in the family song that gives you a two third looks of his body
I always thought Camilo just morphed into a version of Bruno he remembered from when he was a child. He says Bruno was seven feet and has a menacing, evil look which is not true but to a child at the time, it probably was.
Bruno left as an adult so his features didn’t change that drastically from when he left and there was no way to know if Bruno didn’t already have rats as pets or friends before he “disappeared” but it’s possible since he seemed lonely. Knowing the rats beforehand was probably how he discovered the holes in the walls to runaway to
There's also artwork of Bruno in a couple places.
His door in the tower if nothing else.
You are forgetting something about Casita. Julietta doesn't put things away. Casita does that. With a multigenerational family in a big house and her healing duties (which she conducts in the town square, not out of her house), I don't think she is like a modern chef who knows where everything is. Her reaction to seeing Bruno was genuine in the final song. I think only Delores knew and she didn't tell anyone else because her family cuts you off if you start talking about Bruno. Camilo is the town clown. His power is to delight others with his impersonations, like he did with his dad. So his day is spent boosting morale and delighting the townfolk. So he probably talks to the most people and gotten his impression of Bruno from their descriptions. I think if Julietta did know, she would leave food out for him, because she is so kind but I don't think she knew. So Bruno had to sneak it.
I think Pepa knew too. I made a video on it.
I think Julietta the healing cook knew. She would have had to. Any cook worth their salt knows exactly how much food to make to feed everyone and how much of each ingredient they need. Cooking (especially on a large scale) takes planning and preparation. If she didn’t know about Bruno being at the casita there would probably not have been food enough for him (a good cook never waists food if they can help it.) so it stands to reason that she intentionally left that food out for him. (Even if the casita cleans up after them.)
@@leannkennett905 yeah
@@leannkennett905 she's making enough food for the whole town. She won't notice a couple things go missing over a day. He can go down to the kitchen whenever he wants, so it's not like he needs to hoard food.
And then nothing's going to waste. People get sick or have accidents, so whatever she makes is going to be eaten, not counting regular daily meals.
@@tractorfeed7602 yes but if she’s actually cooking the food (which I assume she is) that requires a recipe. This means you need this much of x ingredients to make enough to feed x amount of people prepared as described. This would mean she would need to know how much food she made to adequately feed everyone and make the recipe properly. Any good cook would tell you that. They typically know exactly how much they made and how many it should serve and exactly what is left over. It’s just being a good cook.
I don't think Camilo knew because when you watch the end and they are all singing Camilo is standing next to Dolores and when she sings her part about knowing he never left cause she heard him everyday, Camilo looks at her like "what the heck? You knew he was here all along and never told anyone?"
No. That’s only because Dolores elbowed him lol 😂
@@FirePheonixYeet Elbowed him without warning
Or "You ALSO knew he was here all along and never told anyone?"
He could theoretically have gotten the knowledge of Bruno's appearance from pictures, after all... and if Camilo had spent time with Bruno, why give a description that makes him sound like (as someone else once put it) some sort of eldritch horror? It's an interesting idea but it just doesn't add up.
That’s “what the heck” facial expression could have been specifically about her elbowing him.
0:36 in this video shows Dolores singing "We don't talk about Bruno" and there is a crouching figure sneaking across the upper hallway in the background. Dolores intentionally keeps Mirabel facing away from that figure.
The figure is Bruno dummy
@@KamadoNezuko2024 yeah i think Janet is aware
Wooooah! 😬😬 never noticed that. Literally went back to the time stamp 4 times!! Thanks for this, definitely backs up the fact that Delores knew the entire time. Not to mention, there’s a theory that she’s the true antagonist of the family. It makes sense, when you’re quiet, everyone can look over you as you plot your next move. Dolores and her mom had the most malignant gifts out of the whole family.
@@agirlnamedkris6374 in the music video you can see him dancing behind them a few seconds later
@@katrinascarlet5637 woah you're right! I've watched that part so many times and never noticed. Looks super weird tbh
I always thought Bruno's "perks of kitchen adjacent" comment directly reffered to his sister feeding him. As in, Bruno wasn't aware she knew, but there always managed to be an extra serving of everything she made sitting around for him to have. If she wasn't doing it intentionally and believed her brother had left, she would have been worried about a massive rat infestation.
Kitchen adjacent, like the kitchen is close by and he can just walk over whenever he wants a snack?
It makes sense that Julieta knows and was covered up for him because she is a chef and spends probably nearly all her time in the kitchen . If you think about it some days she probably not only make food for Bruno late at night but she also would need to make a lot of other food considering she practically feeds the whole village while healing the sick as well
Camilo's transformation into Bruno has two details that indicate it's turned from a past memory of Bruno:
1) Camilo's Bruno has black hair, rather than the sightly greying hair; and
2) the eyes are green-Bruno's eyes only turn green when he is delivering a prophecy. They are normally brown.
3) "7 foot frame". Bruno one of the smallest in the family. But to a child grown ups looks much taller than what they are.
Not to mention that Bruno left after Mirabel's gift ceremony which means Camilo was also 5. So, his description of Bruno is how he also remembers him.
The way Camilo gestures after Dolores says "I knew he never left, I heard him everyday" makes me think Camilo didn't know. It seemed like a "why the heck didn't you say anything Dolores" gesture and facial expression.
However, I agree that Julieta would have noticed bits of food going missing over time. Plus when Bruno appeared at the end, Pepa was clearly shocked, while Julieta looked more relieved than shocked imo.
That plus how she never had a part in "we don't talk about Bruno" always made me think she was probably more empathetic to her brother over the years than some of the other relatives were. So she probably understood why he was hiding out and, considering it involved her daughter Mirabel, kept quiet, as she knew Abuela would push Mirabel away like she pushed Bruno away.
she did. julieta sang "time for dinner" and "he's here"
@@WatchPoppy69 not the same as the other family members singing stuff about Bruno
@@PrincessofEllabur yes i know. im saying she sang in the lines that are about Mariano...
If you think abt it, the song itself mostly frames Bruno in a negative light, except for one person, Julieta's daughter Isabella.
All the negative association with him in the family seems to mostly come from Pepa's side, which makes sense since she still hasn't forgiven him for the wedding fiasco.
Pepa probably told Dolores & Camilo bad stories about their uncle, leading to their knowledge about him (mostly Camilo since he clearly saw him as a creepy villain). Julieta obvi didn't tell Mirabel anything abt her uncle, and Isabella & Luisa knew Bruno before he left but also didn't tell Mirabel anything about him.
Basically Julieta's side of the family didn't gossip or frame Bruno as a villain who makes bad things happen, whereas Pepa probably (accidentally) taught her kids that that's exactly who he was.
@@jenkinsjrjenkins It is unlikely that Pepa would have talked about Bruno with her kids since she was really reluctant to talk about him with Mirabel.
So I guess that Camilo got his "information" from the villagers.
I think that Dolores and Julieta know but not sure about Camilo, I’m gonna rewatch the end of the movie ‘cause that’s when Bruno came and see who all are surprised
Camilo might have picked up on some conversations on the locals in the Encanto
Will if Camilo did turn him self in to a rat maybe that could explain the 7 foot frame becoues of bin a rat bruno would look very tall to him.I know they there a theory that Camilo seem bruno get good from the Kitchen when camilo was about 5 or so but. I don’t think bruno would look like he had a 7 foot frame i think when. Camilo said when he call your name it all fades to black mack more sense if. Camilo seen bruno get food and Camilo Fainting when bruno say his name.
He seemed more concerned about Dolores hitting him-
Julieta And Camilo Were Suprised
I think that Camilo had suspicions... a lot of suspicions. When you take into the fact Dolores indirectly gives secrets, speaking in present tense about her uncle, and so forth, it'd be strange if no one else had wonders about both her and Bruno. It makes sense to be cami, sense he has a "spot on" description of him in the verse.
Now, things are clearly exaggerated. I think Camilo was simply another victim of feeling like he had to spread lies about Bruno to fit in. (I also have a theory that there are three golden children, the ones with the "best" powers. Julieta, Isabela, AND Camilo, which fits in here now.) So, even if Cami has no memories and no sides picked on the subject of his rat loving uncle, why wouldn't he want to keep up a reputation, even if that included... well... going too far and dehumanizing Bruno. No one else did that, not even Pepa.
He knows Bruno makes Pepa unhappy. Félix and him are the ones to comfort her. (See how Félix just parrots her in the song? See how Camilo is also calming her after the dinner?) It checks out.
However, I think it was confirmed by the creators that ideas of Camilo shifting into animals were dropped. (Good. A shapeshifter is tricky, they shouldn't have unlimited power. See the "worth a shot" scene.) So, I don't think he directly saw Bruno, unless he went in the walls as a human, but thatd make him the new Mirabel, in which case the movie would've been made about him, but it wasn't.
That leaves it all up to wise Dolores and whatever hellish rumors passed around the town. That's what I think Camilo knows and how he feels about Bruno.
Just my own headcanons though, but I think the little evidence I have checks out :)
I agree 100%. Camilo would've known a lot just from Dolores.
I could see Julieta knowing it, but I doubt that Camilo knew it. Bruno was very lonely when he was younger, so I think he always kept the rats around as companions. That's how Camilo would know about it. But Julieta makes sense. Like, it's impossible for Bruno not to get hurt, so I think Julieta was a good one for him to reach out when he needed someone. She's also understanding and I'm sure she would be thankful that he fled to protect her daughter from the profecy
With the 'Camilo turning into a rat and eventually stumbling across Bruno' theory, perhaps that explains why Camilo describes him as 7 feet tall when he most certainly isn't. From a rat's perspective, people sure would be tall.
Camilo can't turn into animals
I would add up that camilo at some point told Antonio about bruno.
When antonio comes out from nowhere and told Bruno and Mirabel to use his room, he wasnt even phased by seeing Bruno for the first time. So Antonio definitly knew about bruno but he was too pure hearted to say anything.
Camilo's version of Bruno is supposed to look like the one you see in the family's mural since it's the only thing he has to go by.
Pale, dirty and glowing eyes at all times, he is using that plus the things his parents tell him to make a exaggerated caricature of his uncle lol
I think Julieta's husband and Luisa at least also knew, because Julieta would have told them to make sure they helped her keep his presence a secret from Abuela, who is the person who most needed to be kept out of the loop. Julieta is probably the person that is making sure everyone else who knows keeps the secret. It is also possible, though not certain, that Dolores' hints to Mirabel were an agreed upon thing with everyone who already knew, because they'd decided it was time Mirabel knew, before she ended up finding out and telling Abuela before they could stop her.
I'd say Delores and Julieta but not Camillo. The kitchen arrangement is valid but point to remember, Casita can arrange things on its own to some extent. It pours coffee in the morning for everyone, flips the pan with the arepas, can send out plates for Mirabel to set the table. If Julieta makes an extra plate per say, it can help get it closer to Bruno to pick up undetected.
Plot twist: Everyone except abuela knew Bruno was in there but respected his privacy and desire to get away from the 'family business' enough to keep it a secret and so never realized that everyone else already knew about it. I make an exception for abuela because no way would she have ever possibly been chill about him 'lazing about not using his gift to help people'.
Oh for sure, Julieta knew! She most likely made extra food just so "someone" could get something to eat if they were awake late at night!! All family cooks do this! Leftovers are better than an empty plate!
Camilo’s Reaction when Bruno shows up at the end makes it seems like he obviously did not know about Bruno. He say in a questioning tone “ are we gonna talk about Bruno?” And Dolores shoves Camilo when she says I knew he was there like she was smug about the fact she was right
i don't think Delores kept Bruno a secret. in the song we don't talk about Bruno, she uses present tense not past, and even says she knows he's around when he is the background of the song. she makes several other hints throughout the movie. Rather I think it's more that the rest of the family doesn't want to hear it, after all "they don't talk about Bruno." So, it more likely that every time she first started to bring it up, she was shushed about the matter, esp. by her mother.
The thing about Camilo is that he enjoys pranks, meaning an argument could be made that he transforms into Bruno to scare his family members as a prank.
I think Julieta knew because Bruno somehow gets Arepas. She must have secretly gave them to him,
i agree maybe at first she did not know he was there but after a week or so may she pick up that things have missing from her Kitchen
She even made an extra arepa when she was healing Mirabel's hand!
Personally I think it was the other way around with the female Madrigual triplets
If you look closely at Julieta and Pepa’s reaction when Alma accepts Bruno back into the family
Julieta is shocked whereas Pepa’s is more glad to see her brother
She didn't tell anybody because that's how Bruno wanted it and she might have been aware of how much the family hurt him and didn't want to either force him to completely break with the family he clearly still loves or have to suffer their dark interpretation of him and his gift again.
The one problem I see with the Camilo theory is, that we never saw him transform into an animal. And since he never does, it begs the question if he really can turn into an animal. During th scene where he's being hit by lightning he also transforms into various family members, but not into animals. I'd argue, if he could and had some sort of malfunction of his power, animals would be part of the transformation.
Though the theory of Julieta knowing about her brother being present has some merrit.
something I want to mention is during the song All Of You Camilo asks "so we gonna talk about Bruno". In saying that it is implying that Camilo all ready knows that he is seeing his Tio Bruno. While Antonio asks "that is Bruno"? Implying Antonio did not know what Bruno looked like but Camilo did. And as Deluxe mentions in the video I doubt Camilo would know much about what Bruno looked like yet he still somehow knows in the song All Of You he was seeing Bruno
I think it would make sense that Camilo knew about Bruno because Mirabel doesnt remember what Bruno looks like as well as Camilo does, and he's the closest in age to her out of all the grandkids.
You mean besides the fact that there is a wall art of ALL of the family in town, and also Brunos door picture. Also, the kitchen family tree art on the wall. Which has Bruno as an adult, he would easily just to be able to do that. Bruno also isn't 7 ft frame, so that is part of the song dismissed.
SOMEONE had to feed the man, so of course someone knew about him. Dolores may have heard him, but who fed him? If Camilo knew, he could have left food around for the rats to take to Bruno, or he could have taken the food himself. If Dolores, Camilo AND Julieta knew, especially Julieta, it would have been easy to keep Bruno fed and hid
Even though you said that Julieta would notice food disappearing I feel she wouldn’t, not because she’s absent minded but because she’d likely assume Camilo would snatch them, we all saw Camilo stealing 10 arepas, she probably assumes it him, as well as that maybe Camilo or Dolores gets him food, but I feel Julieta is very un aware
I just realized something in the background when watching the scene with Mirabel talking to Julieta in the kitchen-- the rats are carrying away some food. Hmm, I wonder to whom they are delivering this food ;)
Sorry but Julieta’s face when she sees Bruno at the end of the film says it all. She clearly had no idea her brother never left because she wouldn’t have been so shocked to see him if she had known.
I sort of get the impression that the whole point behind the song We Don't Talk About Bruno was more about the keeping of a family taboo and that the family was keeping the secret from Abuela. I sadly, see this sort of thing all the time when a patriarch/matriarch shuns a family member for something like homosexuality and the other family members continue relationships with him/her in secret. That was why the whole "coming back into the light" thing was so powerful.
I agree with Julieta knowing, but I think a) its never said that Cameilo has to have seen him and not just the painting of Bruno, b) he seems surprised when Bruno shows up, and c) he's not 7 feet (seen compared to Mirabel and others) nor is he ever seen with rats on his back, so I think this is just rumors of fear. So I don't think he knew. But I do think Julieta knew.
It's entirely possible that Antonio knew about Bruno being in the walls considering he can understand what animals are saying. He heard about Bruno's story & what he looked like & a rat confirmed with Antonio that Bruno was there.
Also not convinced on Julieta knowing since it was shown Camilo has changed into others to sneak extra helpings of a food. So missing food is more easily explained by this rather than her brother was literally in the walls. Julieta seemed to have no issue with Bruno and seems to kind to let him be banished like that.
I’ve always thought Camilo was remembering his last memory of what Bruno looked like during his part, hence why his part started with “7 feet tall” or something like that
Children can Pacific clear memories
I also thought Julieta knew cuz of the reasons stated. Antonio was pretty calm when he did find out, and I kinda wish we had gotten a scene of them rly being introduced properly, maybe an awkward hug, etc... he just kinda shows up with his animal troop cuz the rats told him what's going on, but he and Bruno act like they weren't total strangers to each other. No words between them when they meet. I just thought it was kind of weird.
I always thought someone had to know bc for one how does Camilo shapeshift into Bruno and he never seen the guy and Delores can hear an eye twitch but they didn’t say nun bc they can’t talk about Bruno so bringing him up would just make the family mad
I think that this theory is true but false.
Camillo and Dolores make a lot of sense because in we don't talk about bruno, they were the only ones describing bruno as for isabela and pepa were telling stories and predictions bruno had for their family and them.
Julieta, however, i don't think is correct because there is just physically no way that bruno could sneak so much food through that one tiny crack. Plus, even if it was at night, how would there be any food left for bruno?
felix told camilo to not turn into dolores so he could have seconds. this is clear proof that dolores deliberately took seconds so she could help bruno survive.... even the arepa he held is proof that someone was leaving food for him so that he would not starve...
I agree that Julieta knew.. Cuz Bruno did get food. But Camilo doesn't seem likely. Cuz it was him that Dolores confessed to at the end.
"Seven foot frame" if Camilo only ran into Bruno while on the form of a rat, it would make sense for him to not be able to properly tell how tall Bruno is
I like to think Julieta made extra food for Bruno, and if she didn't know who was stealing the food (unlikely but still) I believe she still would have made extras for the thief (she might have thought it was Camilo, since he has been seem "stealing" food in the movie....... if Camilo knew about Bruno but Julieta only knew the food was being taken by someone, Camilo could pretend it was him so Bruno wouldn't get caught.... There is also the funny possibility that neither of them knew about Bruno and every morning it was like: "Camilo, if you want extras you can just ask" "again!? I already said it wasn't me!" "Sure ☺️")
camilo knew about where he was because in the song he gave a hint 7 foot frame he was hiding behind a frame on the wall he gave bruno position away
Also at the beginning Julieta told Mirabel to be careful because “my brother Bruno lost his mind in this family” which implies that in addition to knowing that he chose to hide from his family she is also aware of the psychological burdens weighing on Bruno and how that affected his mental state, so could show that she knew where he was and how he was behaving all along.
No, she said “My brother Bruno lost his way in this family, I don’t want that to happen to you”.
Wellllll….although Felix isn’t a blood Madrigal, he is the storyteller & the memory of the family. In “we don’t talk about bruno”, Pepa has to assert herself to sing about her own wedding day because Felix can’t help but interject. In a deleted scene when Felix, Augustine & Mirabel are assigned to clean for Antonio’s party because they don’t have gifts, Felix is the one who tells Mirabel what happened to make Bruno leave (but he was named Oscar in that scene!). Camillo is slightly older than Mirabel so he may have a little more memory about Bruno but not much more than Mirabel. Assuming Camillo never shapeshifted into a rat, any memory gaps would have been filled in by Felix. Pepa says “we don’t talk about Bruno BUT” then proceeds to talk about Bruno. The Pepa-Felix side of the family talks about Bruno. Just not in front of Abuela or the Julieta-Augustine side of the family. My 2 cents!
I think it's actually a joke nod to the audience when Dolores says she knew Bruno was there the whole time.
When Mirabel was looking for the problem with the magic, Dolores tells her that the rats in the wall are also worried.
We know that:
1) Dolores has no reason to NOT tell everyone if she knew Bruno was in the house, she seems to never have a problem answering questions or telling people what's happening. And,
2)Bruno does multiple voices and personas while he does his acting (his true gift)
And so my conclusion is Dolores had no idea at first, but when she met Bruno she realized and made the claim she knew he was there the whole time. Kinda sorta a nod to those siblings that everyone has who SAYS "I knew the whole time" just to annoy their siblings/cousins
I always wondered how Camilo could turn into someone he’d never met
He did meet Bruno. Camilo was 5 when Bruno left
Plus, there were paintings of him all over the place with the rest of the Madrigals.
Camilos memory + faded paintings + town rumors & his mom's thoughts abt Bruno = super tall spooky man who likes rats & scaring people
I think Delores didn't say anything directly about Bruno to the family because she heard him talk about the feelings that his powers weren't helping.
i think it all makes sense and julieta is too kind too expose him but alma did pray for a miracle and she does hate him a bit so just to use bruno's powers she must have kept it a secret
Camilo did not know, because Antonio points out well duh he's Bruno, and Dolores tells him: "she knew he was still them because she could hear him every day" and Camilo showed confusion about him both times
I think this is what Camilo new his mom probably told him about everything about Bruno maybe that’s why he knew what Bruno look like or his mom showed him a picture of Bruno
Hmmmm.... I don’t know about Julieta knowing about Bruno's existence inside Casita.
I understand the point of a chef knowing when things are out of place or missing in the kitchen, and although Bruno could’ve come out from his hiding place and gotten things from the kitchen, let’s not forget there’s also a certain Madrigal who is quite the avid eater: Camilo. Him trying to get seconds while pretending to be Dolores is a sign. And with his mischievous personality, Julieta could come to the conclusion that Camilo is playing pranks on her just to get some food.
I think Abuela DID know he was in the walls and WAS using him. I think she knew he was keeping the house from falling…
That family is veeeery good at keeping secrets. I think all the sisters knew but were protecting their brother.
I dont think camilo knew he seemed surprised at the end I think juliett knew that's why bruno got free food.
Julieta said he got lost in the family. She also was the cook and would notice food missing
I think I'm pretty keen on believing both of the options. I actually had my theory about Julieta knowing about Bruno since I've watched the movie, but never thought of Camilo, but it does makes sense. If he can still transform into animals - I wouldn't say so honestly. If he was, it would be shown in the film in my opinion, and it was just a scratched idea to not mess around with the plot anymore or something. I could see the writers deciding it's just a bit much and only stick with human transformations.. BUT, if he still can, then, I think, since on the drawing, he changed into a capybara, the fact that in Bruno's vision also, a capybara was inside it watching it all, perhaps they wanted it to be a "fun fact" of sort and it actually was Camilo? Maybe he spoke with Antonio beforehand and he thought that, why not, he can listen :0.
They all knew. They don’t talk about Bruno because they know he can hear them.
A lot to unpack.:
Deloris would have shared the nursery with both Isabella and Louisa. It shows that she is pretty much ignored most the time no one hears her UNLESS they want something from her. She most likely tried several times to tell people but was shushed with "we don't talk about Bruno" Or said she heard something in the walls was told it was just the rats.
Camillo: Bruno states h is true gift was acting which was the gift that Camillo got. I think he spent a lot of time with Bruno before he disappeared. He seemed surprised when Deloris said she knew he was there all the time. It is possible he spent time with him shape shifting into a rat it is also possible he was the one bringing him food.
Sister: I think she would have shared with her husband he was in the walls I don't think Phelix would have said anything even if he knew. He is very loyal to his family. Though he does have trouble hiding his emotions so it is possible she may not have told him. IF she knew Bruno did not know she knew.
Felix not Phelix lol
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It’s cannon that Camilo can’t shapeshift into animals sooo
@@jessy.kins. but can shapshift into a baby
Aside from Julieta, I disagree that Camilo knew anything about Bruno.
(for this, we aren't going off of/considering that Jared Bush's tweets are 100% canon)
1. Camilo could turn into a rat. If he could turn into animals, and he did visit his uncle at some point, then he would literally have no reason to demonize him during his part in WDTAB. He describes him like a monstrous being, a cartoony boogeyman meant to fit what seems like local town taboo stories. Bruno is nice and shy, the opposite of what he sings in WDTAB. While we could bring in the argument that he was trying not to seem suspicious and follow along the town's rumors and disapproval of him like his mother, I feel as if he would be extremely guilty singing that if he has met Bruno and know that he heavily contrasts the rumors.
And, about how he remembers his uncle's appearances that well. I could bring in 2 theories of mine. One, he truly studied each and everyone's appearance precariously ever since he got his gift or perhaps even before that (Bruno left the night of Mirabel's ceremony, and Camilo is older than Mirabel by a few months, so he has his gift for a while before Bruno left). Two, he could only vaguely remember what his uncle looked like and had extra help by photographs or art of him (his gift ceremony photo, the faded depiction of him on the madrigal family tree, the depiction of him on the town mural, or maybe other photographs of him that the family disposed of after his disappearance out of guilt and hatred.)
2. Camilo was told this by Dolores. Now, I don't deny that Dolores trusts and loves her brother very much. but she kept Bruno's whereabouts as a secret for a reason. Bruno definitely was already pushed aside or disapproved of even before his disappearance, with Dolores remembering how his gift affected him and how his reputation slowly crumbled because her family couldn't understand his prophecies. In fact if it wasn't for her zipped mouth the movie couldn't have happened. And she might've felt as if, revealing where he was living would only cause more harm than good, it was simply not the right circumstances for him to have revealed himself. What I believe Dolores believed was that, she could feel sympathy for Bruno, but at the end of the day still believed he did bring doom, even if it wasn't his intention of doing so (such as, she participated at the end of Camilo's part by waving a finger at Mirabel singing, "noooo", definitely still believes him to be a bad omen even if he didn't mean to. after all, not only is her mother Pepa but that it's a reference as to this big of a secret she's keeping, so even she is enforcing not to talk about him). Keeping himself away was what Bruno wanted and Dolores didn't betray him for it. So, back to my point, Dolores had no reason to tell anybody about Bruno since nobody asked any good of him (technically not even Mirabel since she only asked Dolores about what's happening to the magic), and if she did tell Camilo and to an extension inform him about what he is like and why she is keeping this secret, Camilo would have no reason, or rather, no motivation in the first place to actively bash him in WDTAB. rather he would've stayed in the sidelines or stayed quiet when Bruno is mentioned just like Dolores is. Her part in WDTAB was never about bashing him, she was not only dropping subtle clues as to where he is but informing Mirabel on the circumstances of the family and what his life had become because of judgment and misunderstanding.
Julieta makes sense because she always made enough for Bruno and in a large family leftovers are rear.
Apart from all these theoretical insinuations, isn't it concerning that only Mirabel and Isabella's beds were shown in the movie. Because now this leads to the assumption that only those who are "not extremely useful" to the family Madrigal have rest while the others whose powers are used extensively don't. Well, I could official say, "With great power comes great responsibility".
In descendants 3 Celia knocked the bit that Bruno was knocking the same bit
She would have tod her husband. Seriously, because they probably agreed not to tell the kids because of abuela but he knew and yeah she did too.
Dolores knows that Bruno is in the walls, obviously. Camilo and Julieta do not know that he's there.
Dolores keeping Bruno's secret for ten years while blabbering about Mirabel's vision could be the fact that she DID try to tell the adults when Bruno left, but with the adults worried and panicked about a missing family member, she was pushed to the side and told to stay out of the way. By the time she was able to get the adults attention, the rule of "Don't talk about Bruno" was in effect and every time she brought it up the adults would remind her of the rule. After multiple times of trying, she just gave up talking about it.
As far as Camilo - Are people forgetting that there is a freaking FAMILY TREE WITH BRUNO'S IMAGE on it as an adult right there in the dining room? Or what about the mural that Mirabel sings in front of during "The Family Madrigal" that has the entire family, again including Bruno, while talking to the kids in the town? That is how he knows what he looks like. As far as the other parts of his song, it could have been from rumors/stories that the town folk have said, maybe to scare kids into behaving. Bruno did kind of become the "boogeyman" of encanto through the years. The part where maybe Camilo transformed into an animal from the Art of Encanto book. That's just it, the art book is kind of like a behind the scenes documentary of what the creators where thinking about doing, not everything that they thought of made it into the final movie. Jared Bush, the director of Encanto, said in a twitter after being asked if Camilo can change into an animal that no, he can not.
With Julieta - Yes, she's the cook for the entire Encanto, but I seriously doubt that everybody in the town would get injured in the same day. I suspect that Julieta cooks more food than she needs in case of emergencies. Better to have more food that could be snacked on later (even if it didn't have a healing power behind it, not sure if the magic stayed in the food until eaten or if it dwindles out over time) than not enough food that people have to suffer while she runs back to casita to make a new batch. These extra foods would probably not have been hand counted in the way of direct numbers. Which means that Bruno could have sneaked out of the walls and grabbed two or three pieces of food without anybody being wiser. And if she did question the lost of any utensils or food, there is a perfect scapegoat to blame it on.... CAMILO. He was shown to try to sneak second helpings of food. Who's to say that he didn't get blamed a couple of times for trying to get a midnight snack. Which could also be a thing as to how he may have known about the rats if villagers didn't talk about them. Maybe Camilo when he was younger tried for a snack in the middle of the night and ran into Bruno on a food run with the rats? But then passed it off as a weird dream.
Antonio would have known Bruno was in the walls the day after his gift ceremony, which is why he showed up in the walls to offer his room to them. If i got the gift to talk to animals, you better believe sleep would be the last thing on my mind and I would talk to every animal that I could find. And obviously, the rats would have mentioned about the man in the walls.
Finally somebody says this
Listening to this, I do agree that they'd know he was there. Cooks almost always know when their stuff was moved, dolores can hear everything BUT she also obviously CANT keep a secret. I do agree with camilo and maybe the three of them would talk about it? I mean, dolores would HAVE to have done SOMETHING to keep her mouth shut if I'm quite honest.
Yea but camillo says he has a 7 foot frame... no way he is that tall.
True, but if Camillo was a rat when he first sees Bruno, then Bruno would appear giant and a 7 foot frame would probably seem like a rational guesstimate.
@@Dragan3rd oooor when he was a kid he think that bruno is 7 and still kept mind untill he is a teen plus he can't turn into rats said on wikipedia
There was a mural of the family in the first song. Everyone would know what he looked like.
@@Dragan3rd The idea of camillo turning into animals was scrapped as mentioned in the book. He can't turn into animals in the final movie which means that the theory is debunked.
I don’t believe that Julieta didn’t know because she was shocked when she saw Bruno with Maribel and Alma but I do believe Camilo’s case because I don’t think he would tell anyone about Bruno especially to her mother Pepa so that’s out of the question and if there’s an actual sequel that shows he may turn into a animal that will definitely prove that he knew all along
Bruno's first appearance in the film was at 9 min 50 sec into the film, not WDTAB. this is proof that bruno has left his hideout a few times before during those 10 years so there is a high possibility that Camilo must've seen bruno quite recently. "7 foot frame , rats along his back" this can be both how camilo viewed his uncle when he was 5 and also reference to the picture frame sealing Bruno's secret hideout...
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To possibly debunk the first theory of how Camilo could accurately shapeshifter into Bruno is simply the graffiti in the first song The family Madrigal, where there is a graffiti on the back wall where Mirabel is showing of all members of the Family to the 3 litlle kids where directly in the middle of the graffiti is Bruno, so Camilo’s part in “We don’t talk about Bruno” could be of memorie of this exact Graffiti most likely in the middle of the Town?
Julieta... maybe. But Camilo? No. If you check his Wiki page it says that he can only turn into people, not animals or objects. Maybe he was going to at one point, but it was scrapped.
But come to think of it Pepa could have known Bruno was here: she forbade everyone to talk about him because she didn’t want him to appear in front of the family, and that would explain why a storm cloud appears every time someone insinuates something about Bruno because she doesn’t want everyone else to find out. Also in the end when Bruno came back Julieta seemed genuinely surprised but Pepa just looked moved and teary instead of shocked, so it could show that she knew he was there but just could not bring herself to forgive him until the end.
Originally Camilo would have been able to turn to animals. But that same book mentioned this idea was scrapped and he can only turn to humans. So this theory is already debunked by is own source material
oh yeah- Well R.I.P. the theory. But there's still a chance that Dolores told him about Bruno living in the Walls, but I don't think that's the case.
Actually there’s some lines that Julieta says about Bruno that leads you to think that maybe she knew about him all along plus the fact that she runs the kitchen and she knows where everything is at and it would be very hard for her to not notice that food was going missing. Plus the fact that out of anybody she probably spent more time in Kaseeta than anybody else except for maybe Abuela and so she would actually know the noises and the inner workings of Casita better than almost everybody except for maybe Mirabel because Mirabel is so close to Kaseeta so in a lot of ways she would have more opportunity to catch Bruno as he’s sneaking away to get food and this that and the other. Now whether or not Bruno knew that Julieta knew he was in there might be a different conversation and it’s very clear that Bruno doesn’t think that a lot of his family knows that he’s there so the fact that this knowledge might belong to more than one person in the magical family doesn’t mean that it’s a two-way street. I think that everyone involved with the secret probably understood that Bruno couldn’t let them know that he was in there and they couldn’t let him know that they knew otherwise they might’ve lost him forever.
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me 2 and the theory did they mention
Bruno didn't look exactly like Camilo depicted him. They had a whole other model just for the way Camilo depicted him (called "Diablo Bruno"). "The Art of Encanto" shows a lot of art from development, which has greatly changed. Animals are not Camilo's thing, and there is no evidence at all in the film that he can change into them. I think, if he could in the finished product, they would have shown him do it at least once, when he was losing control of his powers. The closest they show is the rats on Bruno, which seem more like accessories to his Bruno costume.
When Dolores says at the end that she knew he was there and heard him every day, this is said with an elbow to Camilo, as if to say, "I told you so.", which would indicate that he didn't believe her, not that he agreed. They said somewhere in the comments on social media that Camilo's depiction of Bruno was based on his foggy memories of Bruno, from ten years before, mixed with Camilo's love for the dramatic, comparing him to a theater kid.
Julieta wouldn't have known if there was food missing, when we know just from the one full meal we see, Camilo (being the growing boy he was) was known for using tricks to try to get extra food. I'm sure, if there was food swiped, she would have probably assumed that it was just Camilo. You're also ignoring Julieta's expression when Bruno appears at the end, which is one of shock and overwhelming relief at seeing her brother again, which she wouldn't have had if she'd known all along that he was there and fine.
The only person who seems to not be surprised and overjoyed at seeing him is Dolores. Dolores didn't keep it a secret. She obviously had mentioned it to Camilo and tried to tell Mirabel in "We Don't Talk About Bruno.". Besides that, if Julieta knew that her little brother was hiding in the walls of Casita, don't you think she would have said something when the house collapsed, rather than only looking for Mirabel? I'm sorry, but none of this flies.
"Dolores could keep a secret!" ... except she tells Mirabel in "We Don't Talk About Bruno" that she can hear him. Sure it's not super specific and all but she clearly mentions she can hear him. She even hints at it with the "Rats in the walls".
Plus the only reason I don't think Camilo or Julieta knew are their reactions to him at the end. Because when Dolores says "I knew he never left, I heard him every day" he looks at her like "what? and you told no one!? seriously?!" and Julieta looks just as stunned as Pepa.
Sure - those two reactions could be an act, but Julieta doesn't seem the type to fake her emotions - she is very heart on her sleeve. Not afraid to look worried when her husband doesn't - and she even is willing to repeatedly talk to her mother about laying off of Mirabel despite how hard she's being [which also suggests Abuela was less harsh on her kids than she is with the grandkids].
Also, while yes, Camilo was unlikely to see his uncle in those 10 years - the flash back to Mirabel's day shows Bruno looking no different than he does now and Camilo's version was exaggerated [I mean come on Bruno is literally shorter than his sisters, and Camilo says he's seven feet tall]. Plus he has the door to go off of for sure, plus I'm sure he's done the impression more than once and likely gotten tips. Plus we don't fully know how his powers work for shape shifting, he might not need to see someone for all we know. I mean sure that makes less sense - but hey.
The rats make sense for Camillo to have known about Bruno, but they show family pictures being taken more than once, Bruno's picture is on his door and I think it's also on the family tree, so he had references for what Bruno looked like. Also, Camillo says "7 foot frame" in the song, but Bruno is short.
I feel like Camilo could’ve known, maybe, even though he doesn’t look like he does when Dolores mentions it. But Julieta could’ve easily blamed food being missing or something in the kitchen being moved on Camilo. I mean he does like to steal food, judging by how he acts at lunch.
Or Camillo saw the mural in the town to see how bruno looked. I doubt camillo knew bruno was there. Julietta I can believe noticed the missing food and been silent
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After Antonio got his gift the rats and mice told him Bruno was in the walls but the animals didn't know his name to tell him who he is, when Marabella said to not let anyone know Antonio said "I know, the rats told me" and until Bruno was revealed he didn't know his name he said "That's Bruno?"
Maybe camilo as a rat brings food to bruno all this time. And julieta is helping also by providing more food to bruno
Camilo can't turn into animals. And why does Bruno need to wait for anybody to bring him food when he can just go downstairs to the kitchen and get it himself?
All of the "deleted scene" story boards from Frozen 2 show how, in the course of making a movie, many ideas are considered and then abandoned. So the question, did anyone actually see Camilo change into anything other than another human in the finished movie is valid.
Once Isabella started experimenting, she found that she could create plants she had never actually seen before. It stands to reason that Camilo could take on the appearance of someone he hasn't seen in years, especially since he didn't seem to be putting much thought into his changes.
If Camilo had actually seen Bruno hiding in the Casita, he would have either told Abuela so she could send men with machetes after him or presented him as a sympathetic character in "We don't talk about Bruno."
The way Dolores whacked Camilo in the arm and said, "I told you he never went away," makes it clear that they had argued about it a lot, that her never took her seriously.
This is why I love Camilo
Why is this video ignoring the fact that there is a picture of Bruno in town, together with the rest of the family? Also, his face is literally on his door! Why wouldn't the kids know how he looked?
Dolores is shown as someone who can't keep a secret. The moment she hears Mirabelle and her dad, they act as though it's obvious she'll tell, meaning she's known to not keep secrets. That's logical considering her gift.
Antonio did know because when he comes into the walls and sees Bruno he said, "The rats told me everything." So, he had to had known.
All the theories make sense because camilo was a child when he last saw Bruno and I don't think he could remember anything apart from his face and some of the things he did because ten years is a while back
Buut Camilo cant shapeshift into animals so just one of them can’t be true
@@jessy.kins. yh true but can you explain how he perfectly pictured Bruno when Mirabel can even remember Bruno at all and yet they are only a few weeks apart from each other
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@@jessy.kins. can you explain the rats that he had in we don't talk about bruno
@@Miraculously_c.h.a.t he proba got em from antonio or smth
Peppa was playing the long game. She wanted the magic to die so she would lose her gift without upsetting her mother. She convinced Delores to tell Mirabelle that nothing was wrong with Casita. That set the while quest to find Bruno in motion.
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seriusly no theory about encanto your just focusing on that. what is your theory about the madrigal member who knew about bruno living in the walls
I think the most solid evidence is 4:48 that scene literally shows him turning into Bruno and then he makes the rats (as u can see the eyes are green) how would he know to make the rats? Unless he seen him with the rats?
Camilo could have gotten how Bruno looked from his door. The image of the family members on the doors ages with them.
Camillo's interpretation wasn't exact, the only thing right was the hair and face, and that is not even right too, and also the height he said, he probably got the information from the door and the town people, and they didn't say more in the song because it was secondary and Camillo already said it, they are not going to mention "The guy had rats with him" everytime. and Julieta's surprise is genuine when seeing him, about the food, probably Casita, because we have seen it storing the food, and given that Bruno or "Hernando" repaired the cracks, Casita would give him food, besides him being a family member
Not to mention Bruno would look really big to rat-form Camilo, "7 foot frame~"
In the song "we dont talk about bruno Camelo said "seven foot FRAME" the frame that bruno uses to go in and out of the walls and inside the casita, how he know? And also when mirabel and bruno talk at the end of the talk antonio walks in and says "the rats told him everything, so when did they tell him?