I dropped this game until next big update with casual mode without stupid limitations of presets in team. BTW they literally said In December that they dont want to make wipes very often, and they made wipe in two months. Good luck to open tier 2 presets spending 80 matches on tier 1.
@@isaiahtussey6428 Never had problems with butchers when I played as reaper. But whats the reason to play with preset you dont want to play because someone already picked it?
@isaiahtussey6428 I don't think the 5 man butcher teams were an issue with duplicate presets, in my opinion it was more of an issue with the butcher preset itself. If there were 5 man reaper teams running around, people wouldn't really care. The butcher class in the first wipe was just broken, and has since been patched. I think if they allowed duplicate presets again with the butcher nerf, most people wouldn't really care.
@@Buht0pe3I agree ..they can limit it to 2 or 3 in the team but only 1?? They do everything they can to make it anti-competitive. They force you to play crap guns to justify the crap-gun-content so they dont feel they created it for nothing.
the grind is much easier in arena now then before it took me about 60 matches to unlock t2 solo queuing only and unlike the old wipe i had the initiative to spread out through multiple classes as i went for CQB scout and marksman while playing mainly marksman because of preference and the fact that i can play any kit in a specific class is great and gives a lot of non repetitive gameplay unlike last wipe. i do agree with the audio being very bad sometimes i didnt even hear the enemy cough while he was coughing in the kill cam. the main issues are desync and like you said bullets not registering as a bolt action main i really felt it while playing the apm loadout in tier 1. aslo the maps are just a hot mess
Exactly, honestly I want to use arena to try out builds an shit not grind it out. I can just do that in tarkov. It'll take me less time and also progress more on a game I want to be playing.
I hard disagree with how long it takes unlocking presets on a mathematical level, the amount of EXP required to unlock presets have been reduced drastically, before it took me two days to get to a SINGLE preset someone would consider "tier 2", 4-5 hours a day, just to unlock werewolf because the EXP WAS FUCKING SPLIT BETWEEN TWO PRESETS AT ONCE, now it took me around 1-2 hours, and I am halfway to a 2nd tier 2 preset as well. The other issues such as tarkov audio and hitreg yeah sure.
There is something really wrong with aufio when you dont have headset, as soon as i started playing ,t2 kits with headset it never happened that i could not hear someone walking or sprinting towards me... I also dont like the tiers cause it splits lobbys and when i switch to higher tier sometimes i wait 10 mins for a game
If arena would just be a casual deathmatch with instant respawn I would be happy. It's only purpose is to go in and practice a bit with a chosen weapon (that you should be able to mod freely). Also remove the fucking announcer.
i dont know who did the balancing on the classes, but cqbs armor isnt worth the downsides of not hearing and having bad ammo, especially when they give every other class good ammo, and you can get gen 4s in assault so really what is the point of cqb
3:12 bro I've got an even crazier clip of some dude literally running up to be without a wall in-between us and absolutely 0 audio...actually mind blown of how bad the audio is.
Seems like a case of having someone who is good at one thing doesn't mean they are going to be good at something similar. Like having someone that is good at making a car make a heavy duty truck.
As a EFT Veteran and someone who disliked Arena until last update... agree to disagree; Personally I find it very pleasent now, the game is all about having fun with PVP, "hoarding" kits is a secondary objective. (I unlocked ALL Tier 1 kits in one night... not "impossible") The main issue was the balancing... people just starting getting blasted by Butcher's enjoyers (some also did indeeed lose points for going lower "MMR" just to blast little Timmies with a Scav kit). As the main goal is having fun in PvP without taking home others people stuff is also way less infected by cheaters, you can really have fun. Kits are not perfect, personally having the ability to build your own would be great but is good as it is, the main issue right now is DeSync that is x10 times worse than EFT.
Good video but i just think bsg will never make this game works i'm not trying to hate or anything but they just have a bad vision about every decision they make about this game. Tarkov also has some of the same issues but the diference is there is nothing like tarkov right now.
I hope they add a game mode where every round it’s a random class tier like 2v2 4v4 1v1. It would actually show who’s good at the game cuz a Timmy can get kills with a mk with bp
yea. i dont get it. in theory i should love arena. tarkov but without the looting. as a old socom player i love competitiveness went to cod4 search and destroy then siege my clanmates went to pubg and i just hated pubg. tarkov came around and again in theory i should enjoy arena. but i didnt when it came it out. and i still dont now. and i cant explain it. great vid doode!
Dropped it the moment I learned I was going to be stuck with basically scav kits until I unlocked 5 kits from tier 2. Is there actually anyone who liked this change?
So i agree that it takes longer to unlock the tier 3 presets but once u unlock them u have 5 top tier presets that are all competative , when before ur grinded all the way down to get 1 top tier competative preset. So it takes longer but u have more options in the end was my opinion.
You are definitely correct, one thing I do really like about the update is how well the presets are balanced within their respective tiers. I probably should have praised the things they did right more but I was heated when I did the voice over lol
I do enjoy the gameplay now. besides the audio issues ofc. Though... I feel like they should add a random gear mode where everyone gets placed into random tier(I mean the whole server gets placed into a single tier not every player gets a random tier) and get random gun presets from that tier and it should be just available at all times as a fun mode. I think that it would bring the game back to life and would be way more enjoyable. less meta cause you cant pick your shit. I feel like this would fit arena so well.
Tbf people did ask for this. They asked for the ability to level presets outside the line, people asked for the multiple butchers to stop happening, and they asked for a tier system to stop people from matching with people outside their class kill potential. Not saying they handled it well but this is what people asked for all in one. The xp part i can almost understand however this system is infinitely better than last wipe. Yes you have to grind 5 kits to tier 2. The difference is it takes around 50 to 60 xp each to get there. In addition you can jsut keep grinding kits up the tree as part of the 5. Vs last wipe where i was getting 6k xp for a win and had to grind to 300xp+ in some cases for some of the more mid-tier kits like the MPX and others. Atleast here i have control of what i unlock and use before i was stuck hard to the class right before it. Like improvements are abundant but with improvements comes steps backwards. These kits are much more balanced than before and the ability to choose the class i level is superb. But xp gains need to be increased as well as they really just need to release unranked and this wouldnt be as much of an issue as you would be able to jsut use your tier 2 kits most likely in unranked.
When I was saying no one asked for this, I meant no one wanted a longer grind. I did see a lot of people complaining about duplicate presets, I just don't think they went about fixing that issue in the right way. I also agree that they did a really good job rebalancing the presets, I just wish I could unlock them a lot faster lol
But now I cant play the way I want to play, for example my favourite preset was reaper. Now if someone took reaper before me I should play with something else, so nah, fuck this game and stupid bsg.
For sure lol that's the issue the solution they came up with is idiotic. The grind itself isn't longer but the amount of steps is higher now as you gotta do more
I 100% agree. I think BSG really fudged it up when it comes to alot of stuff this wipe with arena. First off the classes are still not balanced at all. Marksmen class is severely lacking and severely under powered by most of the other classes. You got dudes with full auto AK's and level 4 armor with lvl 3 helmets WITH face shields and red dots with ZERO recoil to them. This is in no way balanced. Now that being said, I have had a lot of fun not taking this game seriously one bit and running chepushilo as my main. Just going balls to the fugging wall. Its better than the two paid for classes above it in the same tier. Again no idea of what balance is lol. Its kind of like these devs don't understand their own game. Or what makes a weapon OP or how to properly balance these kits. Matchmaking is still pretty ass too. Hit boxes have most definitely been fucked and I do think it has to do with the hit box change. But not JUST that... the DAMAGE MODEL also has changed for the worse IMO becoming VERY unrealistic. I had a match where as chepushilo I hit a guy in the thorax on the other team, and he was the other sniper with the M700 and no armor. My BTSP 7.62x54 registered two hits and they didnt even break 100 damage. Dude tanked em both and just slept me with the M700. I been seeing a lot of lengthy TTK's here lately for low level start of wipe gameplay. Frequently seeing a ridiculous amount of hits just not do shit nd and it seems random. Armor, no armor. People are tanking 10 plus hits frequently and its like anything other than a headshot just doesnt kill anyone anymore. Its immersion breaking where its at now. Audio, yup I have the same exact thing happen to me. The base game sounds way better. Arena sounds like I got a wet towel wrapped around my head and everything is way more muffled. Even when I have sordins on, people will just sprint right up to me with zero audio. Whether its on wood, metal, grass, or concrete. And also, desync has been as horrendous as ever. I actually haven't been enjoying the latest wipe. On Arena or the Base game. Call me crazy, but I preferred the old recoil system. I was surgical with the point shooting and Arena was so much fun BEFORE the recoil change. Now the base game is super campy. Tarkov was always campy but now its just way easier. Takes the fun out of ratting for me, and I cant move around either so I just been bored and kills I get dont feel nearly as satisfying now that basically everything up to 7.62 is a god damn water hose when it comes to recoil
Yeah it got worse, and for those who want to play tier 2 kits, the matching queue is around 5 minutes (all maps and gamemodes) , you also recieve the same exp, so playing tier 2 is not grind effective.
Dude, sights in this presets are so bad, literally everyone rather playing with iron sight than sights they give us... soo fricking bad, who will play this shit even?
How about the netcode? They can’t make a game with out 0,5 sec desync. The whole project is not ever going to work if they won’t figure that out. Bsg always release more content and won’t fix major issues with basic mechanics. Audio and netcode have sucked always….
Audio is waaay worse now its obnoxious and the unlock 5 kits of the tuer is annoying aswell but more so the way they balanced the game. Like cqb is busted af bro they have face shield, t4 armor and flechette on T1 vs trash kits how is that allowed. Not even marksman can kill them or scout the 2 classes that should have good ammo in zradeoff for bad armor. And even in t3 you have zenith with t6 armor all around and only like 3 kits in the whole game that can kill him.
The grind isn’t “WAY LONGER”. I got to silver after to two days of playing AND that was before they made the xp to get them way less lol. People will bitch over anything. I like how it is personally, it keeps people playing with the earlier kits longer which is where most of the fun is anyway. I can’t tell you how BORING it is getting two tapped every single round by (DEEP BREATH*) 855a1, 995, SSA AP, m80, m62,m61,993, bs, ps, bt, igolnik, etc etc etc etc. THEY ALL DO THE SAME THING… balancing is out of the question, HOWEVER… at the early stages armor actually at least does something and your lv 3 helmet actually stops a round or two. The early game is far more enjoyable.
One of the most important things I've learned from doing RUclips is seeing things from other peoples perspectives, even if I disagree with them. I think it's great that you enjoy the early game, I'm sure you're having a great time with this wipe if that is the case. But you have to understand that the majority of people do not think that way. The most fun I or any of my friends have had playing arena is when they unlocked all of the classes at the end of last wipe. Since the new wipe, my friends and I have all quit playing because the early presets are extremely boring for us, and all of the comments I've received (besides yours) say the same thing. Again, it's great that you're having a good time, but you have to understand that most people are not. People are quitting arena FAST and that's not good.
yeah man you have good points. i like the "fast food" feeling i get, quick n dirty but man idk how they think this will be an e sport. i want it to succeed and will continue to play because i love anything eft but shits kinda ass lol
This is the video BSG needs to watch bc the game is definitely worse. I got to lvl 65 last time and won't be playing again, I am not putting that much time into being a scav again lol
yeah i stopped playing arena after unlocking 5 t3 builds it was just boring. money as never a problem the builds were mind bogglingly stupid (5 round mag m62 vepr when a t1 got 0 rounders of worse ammo?? a secondary that you had to butcher to get good use of health items that were between 4 tiers what ???) and just generally boring. the maps suck, the information is lacking and the game wasnt even worth the FREE price tag it was given out for (EOD)
I feel like you didnt look at the patch notes at all, you dont need as much XP to get a new class, you can progress alot faster than you could before. They arent doubling anything.
You still have to unlock classes you don't want to, but only if you have less than 5 presets on the part of the the tree you're going for. In my case, I'm going down the right side of assault, where there are only 4 tier 2 classes. This means I will have to go down another tree if I want to unlock tier 2. Sorry if that point wasn't clear
@@krucialFPS you can still play your assault class. no you wont be in tier 2 but you can still play that class. ive literally just been playing riyzhy as a joke and i have all the requirements met.
Thought I was the only one playing with teammates with both arms tied, 50% vision, and no headset.
I dropped this game until next big update with casual mode without stupid limitations of presets in team. BTW they literally said In December that they dont want to make wipes very often, and they made wipe in two months. Good luck to open tier 2 presets spending 80 matches on tier 1.
“Stupid limitations”.
You obviously never played against 5 butchers or 5 man with Altyns early. Lol
@@isaiahtussey6428 Never had problems with butchers when I played as reaper. But whats the reason to play with preset you dont want to play because someone already picked it?
@isaiahtussey6428 I don't think the 5 man butcher teams were an issue with duplicate presets, in my opinion it was more of an issue with the butcher preset itself. If there were 5 man reaper teams running around, people wouldn't really care. The butcher class in the first wipe was just broken, and has since been patched. I think if they allowed duplicate presets again with the butcher nerf, most people wouldn't really care.
@@Buht0pe3I agree ..they can limit it to 2 or 3 in the team but only 1?? They do everything they can to make it anti-competitive. They force you to play crap guns to justify the crap-gun-content so they dont feel they created it for nothing.
Cry is free
the grind is much easier in arena now then before it took me about 60 matches to unlock t2 solo queuing only and unlike the old wipe i had the initiative to spread out through multiple classes as i went for CQB scout and marksman while playing mainly marksman because of preference and the fact that i can play any kit in a specific class is great and gives a lot of non repetitive gameplay unlike last wipe. i do agree with the audio being very bad sometimes i didnt even hear the enemy cough while he was coughing in the kill cam. the main issues are desync and like you said bullets not registering as a bolt action main i really felt it while playing the apm loadout in tier 1. aslo the maps are just a hot mess
I agree, progression is way more intuitive now, I think this guy isn’t looking at the whole picture of not being locked into a meta kit forever
Who would want to pay 45 bucks for a spinoff of tarkov when i bought the full game for 30. Arena was gonna be cheaper so people feel scammed
deff dont need another grind, should be jump in have fun, maybe add skins to the guns as a progression system or something idk
maybe sum alil like counterstrike tarkov style
Exactly, honestly I want to use arena to try out builds an shit not grind it out. I can just do that in tarkov. It'll take me less time and also progress more on a game I want to be playing.
@@natetro8787 ya i think a buying system like counterstrike would make sense
3:05 I think Bay 5 just has broken audio. The same thing has happened to me in that same area. ugh
I hard disagree with how long it takes unlocking presets on a mathematical level, the amount of EXP required to unlock presets have been reduced drastically, before it took me two days to get to a SINGLE preset someone would consider "tier 2", 4-5 hours a day, just to unlock werewolf because the EXP WAS FUCKING SPLIT BETWEEN TWO PRESETS AT ONCE, now it took me around 1-2 hours, and I am halfway to a 2nd tier 2 preset as well.
The other issues such as tarkov audio and hitreg yeah sure.
There is something really wrong with aufio when you dont have headset, as soon as i started playing ,t2 kits with headset it never happened that i could not hear someone walking or sprinting towards me... I also dont like the tiers cause it splits lobbys and when i switch to higher tier sometimes i wait 10 mins for a game
It's a shame, I just want a pve game mode, custom builds fights and unranked.
If arena would just be a casual deathmatch with instant respawn I would be happy. It's only purpose is to go in and practice a bit with a chosen weapon (that you should be able to mod freely). Also remove the fucking announcer.
i dont know who did the balancing on the classes, but cqbs armor isnt worth the downsides of not hearing and having bad ammo, especially when they give every other class good ammo, and you can get gen 4s in assault so really what is the point of cqb
3:12 bro I've got an even crazier clip of some dude literally running up to be without a wall in-between us and absolutely 0 audio...actually mind blown of how bad the audio is.
Seems like a case of having someone who is good at one thing doesn't mean they are going to be good at something similar. Like having someone that is good at making a car make a heavy duty truck.
As a EFT Veteran and someone who disliked Arena until last update... agree to disagree;
Personally I find it very pleasent now, the game is all about having fun with PVP, "hoarding" kits is a secondary objective.
(I unlocked ALL Tier 1 kits in one night... not "impossible")
The main issue was the balancing... people just starting getting blasted by Butcher's enjoyers (some also did indeeed lose points for going lower "MMR" just to blast little Timmies with a Scav kit).
As the main goal is having fun in PvP without taking home others people stuff is also way less infected by cheaters, you can really have fun.
Kits are not perfect, personally having the ability to build your own would be great but is good as it is, the main issue right now is DeSync that is x10 times worse than EFT.
Bro I love this video and finally I know why my T2 presets are not unlocked,,,
Keep the grind!
I’ve never gotten less than 7.5k xp even on a loss when dropping close to 10 kills 2:57
Good video but i just think bsg will never make this game works i'm not trying to hate or anything but they just have a bad vision about every decision they make about this game. Tarkov also has some of the same issues but the diference is there is nothing like tarkov right now.
I hope they add a game mode where every round it’s a random class tier like 2v2 4v4 1v1. It would actually show who’s good at the game cuz a Timmy can get kills with a mk with bp
yea. i dont get it. in theory i should love arena. tarkov but without the looting. as a old socom player i love competitiveness went to cod4 search and destroy then siege my clanmates went to pubg and i just hated pubg. tarkov came around and again in theory i should enjoy arena. but i didnt when it came it out. and i still dont now. and i cant explain it. great vid doode!
Like with much of what Battlestate does, great idea, poorly executed. It should be their motto at this point
Dropped it the moment I learned I was going to be stuck with basically scav kits until I unlocked 5 kits from tier 2. Is there actually anyone who liked this change?
So i agree that it takes longer to unlock the tier 3 presets but once u unlock them u have 5 top tier presets that are all competative , when before ur grinded all the way down to get 1 top tier competative preset. So it takes longer but u have more options in the end was my opinion.
You are definitely correct, one thing I do really like about the update is how well the presets are balanced within their respective tiers. I probably should have praised the things they did right more but I was heated when I did the voice over lol
I do enjoy the gameplay now. besides the audio issues ofc. Though... I feel like they should add a random gear mode where everyone gets placed into random tier(I mean the whole server gets placed into a single tier not every player gets a random tier) and get random gun presets from that tier and it should be just available at all times as a fun mode. I think that it would bring the game back to life and would be way more enjoyable. less meta cause you cant pick your shit. I feel like this would fit arena so well.
Tbf people did ask for this. They asked for the ability to level presets outside the line, people asked for the multiple butchers to stop happening, and they asked for a tier system to stop people from matching with people outside their class kill potential. Not saying they handled it well but this is what people asked for all in one. The xp part i can almost understand however this system is infinitely better than last wipe. Yes you have to grind 5 kits to tier 2. The difference is it takes around 50 to 60 xp each to get there. In addition you can jsut keep grinding kits up the tree as part of the 5. Vs last wipe where i was getting 6k xp for a win and had to grind to 300xp+ in some cases for some of the more mid-tier kits like the MPX and others. Atleast here i have control of what i unlock and use before i was stuck hard to the class right before it. Like improvements are abundant but with improvements comes steps backwards. These kits are much more balanced than before and the ability to choose the class i level is superb. But xp gains need to be increased as well as they really just need to release unranked and this wouldnt be as much of an issue as you would be able to jsut use your tier 2 kits most likely in unranked.
When I was saying no one asked for this, I meant no one wanted a longer grind. I did see a lot of people complaining about duplicate presets, I just don't think they went about fixing that issue in the right way. I also agree that they did a really good job rebalancing the presets, I just wish I could unlock them a lot faster lol
But now I cant play the way I want to play, for example my favourite preset was reaper. Now if someone took reaper before me I should play with something else, so nah, fuck this game and stupid bsg.
For sure lol that's the issue the solution they came up with is idiotic. The grind itself isn't longer but the amount of steps is higher now as you gotta do more
Welcome to dealing with BSG brotha. Been playing Tarkov for 6 years and they never change
I 100% agree.
I think BSG really fudged it up when it comes to alot of stuff this wipe with arena.
First off the classes are still not balanced at all. Marksmen class is severely lacking and severely under powered by most of the other classes. You got dudes with full auto AK's and level 4 armor with lvl 3 helmets WITH face shields and red dots with ZERO recoil to them. This is in no way balanced. Now that being said, I have had a lot of fun not taking this game seriously one bit and running chepushilo as my main. Just going balls to the fugging wall. Its better than the two paid for classes above it in the same tier. Again no idea of what balance is lol.
Its kind of like these devs don't understand their own game. Or what makes a weapon OP or how to properly balance these kits. Matchmaking is still pretty ass too.
Hit boxes have most definitely been fucked and I do think it has to do with the hit box change.
But not JUST that... the DAMAGE MODEL also has changed for the worse IMO becoming VERY unrealistic. I had a match where as chepushilo I hit a guy in the thorax on the other team, and he was the other sniper with the M700 and no armor. My BTSP 7.62x54 registered two hits and they didnt even break 100 damage. Dude tanked em both and just slept me with the M700. I been seeing a lot of lengthy TTK's here lately for low level start of wipe gameplay. Frequently seeing a ridiculous amount of hits just not do shit nd and it seems random. Armor, no armor. People are tanking 10 plus hits frequently and its like anything other than a headshot just doesnt kill anyone anymore. Its immersion breaking where its at now.
Audio, yup I have the same exact thing happen to me. The base game sounds way better. Arena sounds like I got a wet towel wrapped around my head and everything is way more muffled. Even when I have sordins on, people will just sprint right up to me with zero audio. Whether its on wood, metal, grass, or concrete.
And also, desync has been as horrendous as ever.
I actually haven't been enjoying the latest wipe. On Arena or the Base game. Call me crazy, but I preferred the old recoil system. I was surgical with the point shooting and Arena was so much fun BEFORE the recoil change. Now the base game is super campy. Tarkov was always campy but now its just way easier. Takes the fun out of ratting for me, and I cant move around either so I just been bored and kills I get dont feel nearly as satisfying now that basically everything up to 7.62 is a god damn water hose when it comes to recoil
The dsync is game breaking
it really doesn't take that long tho. like not an unrealistic amount that its dreadful.
Yeah it got worse, and for those who want to play tier 2 kits, the matching queue is around 5 minutes (all maps and gamemodes) , you also recieve the same exp, so playing tier 2 is not grind effective.
Dude, sights in this presets are so bad, literally everyone rather playing with iron sight than sights they give us... soo fricking bad, who will play this shit even?
So many great points in this vid.
They are trying to make War Thunder,World of Tanks type of game or Caliber.
How about the netcode? They can’t make a game with out 0,5 sec desync. The whole project is not ever going to work if they won’t figure that out. Bsg always release more content and won’t fix major issues with basic mechanics. Audio and netcode have sucked always….
They lowered the xp needed to unlock presets
Audio is waaay worse now its obnoxious and the unlock 5 kits of the tuer is annoying aswell but more so the way they balanced the game. Like cqb is busted af bro they have face shield, t4 armor and flechette on T1 vs trash kits how is that allowed. Not even marksman can kill them or scout the 2 classes that should have good ammo in zradeoff for bad armor. And even in t3 you have zenith with t6 armor all around and only like 3 kits in the whole game that can kill him.
The grind isn’t “WAY LONGER”. I got to silver after to two days of playing AND that was before they made the xp to get them way less lol. People will bitch over anything. I like how it is personally, it keeps people playing with the earlier kits longer which is where most of the fun is anyway. I can’t tell you how BORING it is getting two tapped every single round by (DEEP BREATH*) 855a1, 995, SSA AP, m80, m62,m61,993, bs, ps, bt, igolnik, etc etc etc etc. THEY ALL DO THE SAME THING… balancing is out of the question, HOWEVER… at the early stages armor actually at least does something and your lv 3 helmet actually stops a round or two. The early game is far more enjoyable.
One of the most important things I've learned from doing RUclips is seeing things from other peoples perspectives, even if I disagree with them. I think it's great that you enjoy the early game, I'm sure you're having a great time with this wipe if that is the case. But you have to understand that the majority of people do not think that way. The most fun I or any of my friends have had playing arena is when they unlocked all of the classes at the end of last wipe. Since the new wipe, my friends and I have all quit playing because the early presets are extremely boring for us, and all of the comments I've received (besides yours) say the same thing. Again, it's great that you're having a good time, but you have to understand that most people are not. People are quitting arena FAST and that's not good.
yeah man you have good points. i like the "fast food" feeling i get, quick n dirty but man idk how they think this will be an e sport. i want it to succeed and will continue to play because i love anything eft but shits kinda ass lol
This is the video BSG needs to watch bc the game is definitely worse. I got to lvl 65 last time and won't be playing again, I am not putting that much time into being a scav again lol
Im tired of wipes on regular eft. Wipes here will insure i never play this game, ever.
I agree with everything you say.
yeah i stopped playing arena after unlocking 5 t3 builds it was just boring. money as never a problem the builds were mind bogglingly stupid (5 round mag m62 vepr when a t1 got 0 rounders of worse ammo?? a secondary that you had to butcher to get good use of health items that were between 4 tiers what ???) and just generally boring.
the maps suck, the information is lacking and the game wasnt even worth the FREE price tag it was given out for (EOD)
I feel like you didnt look at the patch notes at all, you dont need as much XP to get a new class, you can progress alot faster than you could before. They arent doubling anything.
The grind is less than half the time now tho. Sounds like you just want to complain
your first point is wrong. you can literally play a different tree entirely while unlocking others.
You still have to unlock classes you don't want to, but only if you have less than 5 presets on the part of the the tree you're going for. In my case, I'm going down the right side of assault, where there are only 4 tier 2 classes. This means I will have to go down another tree if I want to unlock tier 2. Sorry if that point wasn't clear
@@krucialFPS you can still play your assault class. no you wont be in tier 2 but you can still play that class. ive literally just been playing riyzhy as a joke and i have all the requirements met.
you sound like you're on the verge of tears half the time
Just play hired ops it’s free
dead game, this game is far from Esport
cry baby vibes
disagree
completely
game is fun but my god it fucking sucks