Slight corrections, 120i is only available in lci, not prelci though the tune is about the same as 118i prelci. Also, N13 requires 4.25L of eo not 4L (may seems minor but oil maintenance is key). Problem with this car is once u own it u dont know what to upgrade to apart from awd hatch like m135i, golf R or audi rs3 but they are in a lot higher price bracket already. So technically 80k for a rwd hatch is a steal actually. Already almost 3 years owning it and it makes me smile in every drive 😁
A bit of add on on the installment part. Aside of RM 1k installment, plus an additional budget a monthly RM 300-500 for the maintenance fund of a car ( new or used). Example if it snowball for 3 months, you get RM 900 to 1.5k of funds for any hiccups, if not some upgrades like rims and son. Imagine it for 6 months or a year how much is it. With this fund, you won't get those Kilowatt shock of thousands of ringgit of repair cost in case it happens. Even can cover your annual insurance. All my cars are used or pre-reg. Just my 2 cents. Happy motoring.
i think its all about how you take care of your car although simpler engineering does play a role such as NA engine vs twin turbo+ hybrid combo . I trashed my previous Mark X with lots of aggressive stop go traffic (imagine daily drive from JB to Tuas for work) and constant high speed back to KL on weekend. Lots of issues such as valve cover gasket, steering rack, brakes and ECU change. That was 12 years ago. Now i owned a BMW X3 and so far so good. Gentle drive, minimal stop go traffic and service before time. So, if you can find a low mileage and knows the previous owner driving habit and with proper service record then its a bargain. Else, get a Japanese car.
Yes, driving habits and maintenance are key to a car's longevity. Actually highway miles are pretty easy on the car, what really piles on the wear and tear is stop-go traffic, especially if it is everyday on peak hours. Situations like that, EV starting look very appealing. Haha.
@@KonWaiLuen :Correct. Especially with a lot of sudden braking & sudden acceleration. 1km of such situation is equivalent to 100km of highway driving with constant speed at 100kmh. Lots of wear on suspension, brakes, GB and engine. EV excels in stop go traffic but not efficient for highway driving especially on higher speed. Maybe PHEV or Hybrid is the best of both world. In fact, i saw some auto report stating that Hybrid is even more reliable than petrol engine, most likely if it is true that the major load where handled by electric motor. :)
IMHO, not everything boils down to price. Borrowed a pre-LCI F20 118i sometime back with 3 other passengers in tow. Really enjoyed the driver-oriented elements (driver-angled center stack, sitting posture and position, driving dynamics, actual handbrake and steering feedback) but cannot ignore like most entry level model range, there are plenty of cheapo plasticky bits, and in my case even my
n20 is notorious with problems..not sure what would be the motivation on getting one of those, probably the badge...its not worth the headache plus values will keep dropping until you have to give it away for free..not a good financial decision
2016 civic selling same price, or even more than this 2016 bmw is the EXACT REASON why u should avoid this BMW in my opinion, not the other way around? I mean, there's a reason why it depreciate so much over the years
because a bmw cost more to maintain and this one of the reason turn people away and in turn less resale value, want a car that drives better buy a beemer..dont know much cars dont care how it drives as long just refuel and go buy a japanese cars
BMW's are not as troublesome to maintain as most people believe. But I would discourage anyone from buying one just for the purpose of getting the badge.
@@KonWaiLuen last time my fren own e90 used car, have to fork up 20k to replace faulty parts in one year, ends up selling it the following year, say no more bmw
U dont buy a Bimmer for its resale value. If you are, then stick with the local brands and Japanese.
You buy used Bimmers to take advantage of their resale value. Haha
I like how maintenance cost is presented in the end. Keep it up!
Thanks! The idea is to present as complete a picture as possible for potential buyers to make an informed decision
Slight corrections, 120i is only available in lci, not prelci though the tune is about the same as 118i prelci. Also, N13 requires 4.25L of eo not 4L (may seems minor but oil maintenance is key).
Problem with this car is once u own it u dont know what to upgrade to apart from awd hatch like m135i, golf R or audi rs3 but they are in a lot higher price bracket already. So technically 80k for a rwd hatch is a steal actually. Already almost 3 years owning it and it makes me smile in every drive 😁
I thought the 1 series was FWD
@@incisor78 f20 is the last gen with rwd, after that all fwd. only baby Ms like m135/m140i have awd.
Thank you, I stand corrected
A bit of add on on the installment part. Aside of RM 1k installment, plus an additional budget a monthly RM 300-500 for the maintenance fund of a car ( new or used). Example if it snowball for 3 months, you get RM 900 to 1.5k of funds for any hiccups, if not some upgrades like rims and son. Imagine it for 6 months or a year how much is it. With this fund, you won't get those Kilowatt shock of thousands of ringgit of repair cost in case it happens. Even can cover your annual insurance. All my cars are used or pre-reg. Just my 2 cents. Happy motoring.
Bought this a few months back (2015 car), other than wear and tear to be replaced, drives amazing and really enjoying myself!
Congrats and thanks for sharing your experience!
basic BMW expenses are not so terrible ... generally speaking but u still have to fork out extra than smaller cars of course..
Spot on
very rare hatchback that have Rear Wheel Drive
They don't make em anymofe
i think its all about how you take care of your car although simpler engineering does play a role such as NA engine vs twin turbo+ hybrid combo . I trashed my previous Mark X with lots of aggressive stop go traffic (imagine daily drive from JB to Tuas for work) and constant high speed back to KL on weekend. Lots of issues such as valve cover gasket, steering rack, brakes and ECU change. That was 12 years ago. Now i owned a BMW X3 and so far so good. Gentle drive, minimal stop go traffic and service before time. So, if you can find a low mileage and knows the previous owner driving habit and with proper service record then its a bargain. Else, get a Japanese car.
Yes, driving habits and maintenance are key to a car's longevity. Actually highway miles are pretty easy on the car, what really piles on the wear and tear is stop-go traffic, especially if it is everyday on peak hours. Situations like that, EV starting look very appealing. Haha.
@@KonWaiLuen :Correct. Especially with a lot of sudden braking & sudden acceleration. 1km of such situation is equivalent to 100km of highway driving with constant speed at 100kmh. Lots of wear on suspension, brakes, GB and engine. EV excels in stop go traffic but not efficient for highway driving especially on higher speed. Maybe PHEV or Hybrid is the best of both world. In fact, i saw some auto report stating that Hybrid is even more reliable than petrol engine, most likely if it is true that the major load where handled by electric motor. :)
IMHO, not everything boils down to price.
Borrowed a pre-LCI F20 118i sometime back with 3 other passengers in tow. Really enjoyed the driver-oriented elements (driver-angled center stack, sitting posture and position, driving dynamics, actual handbrake and steering feedback) but cannot ignore like most entry level model range, there are plenty of cheapo plasticky bits, and in my case even my
w205?
@@petemorbius3936 Haha, sorry, W205 is more looks than go in comparison, although definitely more passenger friendly.
@@ngyc6294 hmmm . to me it drives well
@@petemorbius3936 Then good for you. Personally the F20 still nudges ahead of d W205 as a driver's car
@@ngyc6294 oh
n20 is notorious with problems..not sure what would be the motivation on getting one of those, probably the badge...its not worth the headache plus values will keep dropping until you have to give it away for free..not a good financial decision
This one not N20 bro. This one Prince engine. 🤴 😄
@ thats even worse😂
Who la this newbie tommy fella.... We just want Kon talking to us.
Tommy, go to ur own channel
Sometimes must hv other ppl share their knowledge also maaa
sometimes, the owner got high on the weeds and blow the crap out of mouth without sense 😊
Owner of this car is not in the video, but hey, I welcome you to inject your sense into the conversation
He actually kinda look like u
Yau mou laaaaaannnnnnnn
2016 civic selling same price, or even more than this 2016 bmw is the EXACT REASON why u should avoid this BMW in my opinion, not the other way around? I mean, there's a reason why it depreciate so much over the years
because a bmw cost more to maintain and this one of the reason turn people away and in turn less resale value, want a car that drives better buy a beemer..dont know much cars dont care how it drives as long just refuel and go buy a japanese cars
Never buy a used car with good resale value.
Magic = Sport mode.... hahaha.
lol F20 mounting cheaper than my Fiesta hahah
yes it is.... haha
Well.... I always tell people, once you have touched the Holy trinity of Ford, Alfa, and Peugeot, nothing in the car world scares you anymoe
Come on man, Civic is like the Resale Value King. I doubt any car can match it. Not fair to compare.
Mile spacious and comfortable
kolola altis
Altis also no match la. Go check yourself and see.
tnga altis same, go check yourself.
Wrong brader. Altis is 20k more than civic when new. 2nd hand now same price
BMW?? don't touch laa regardless the price
BMW's are not as troublesome to maintain as most people believe. But I would discourage anyone from buying one just for the purpose of getting the badge.
@@KonWaiLuen last time my fren own e90 used car, have to fork up 20k to replace faulty parts in one year, ends up selling it the following year, say no more bmw
@@alibaba-vv1wd 320i ah?