this is actually a REALLY good point to discuss, thank you for bringing this up! :) There is nothing more annoying than when someone with No Spatial Awareness keeps kicking and elbowing you while dancing near you on the dancefloor ! :D
I hate hate a crowded dancefloor, as a leader I feel its absolutely my responsibility to protect the follower, I find that I spend more time looking around than enjoying the dance unfortunately 😕
Increase your peripheral vision , an exercise that helped.me.was dancing around.the room.when not crowded, you learn anticipation and blocking techniques which may help your situation
Daaamn how many times I bump into someone (my fault, their fault, both happen) and they don't acknowledge it! It grinds my gears too, I feel you on that one
I purposely avoid places that I know are going to be busy as I too like space. However sometimes there are special events or people come “later” and places get crowded anyway. I can usually take a beating if bumping and accidents happen, but just this past Tuesday, someone actually scratched me with her nails. I actually had to stop dancing. I also didn’t see who it was and my partner seemed more concerned than the person who actually did it. Fortunately, there was no blood, but I think that might be an option to add to that list. I try to keep my nails short. Fake nails or long nails can be weapons on the dance floor, too.
When I was a beginner, I was taking too big steps and I guess I didn't have good control overall... and I must admit I stepped on feet and bumped on people too many times. I would always acknowledge it and after the dance I would try to formally apologise... but I was quite chocked I got really agressive response eventhough I was feeling genuinely sorry, and accidents had happened not out of selfishness but out of clumpsiness 😬 Now that I got better, I'm trying to be extra carefull and I agree with you, there's a lot of rude people out there. The less you can do when you bump onto someone else is to acknowledge what just happened.
If you have manners and say sorry anyone that is a dancer will be forgiving anyone there for other reasons, well.now you see one of the ways they expose themselves 😂 As long as you have good manners all can be forgiven 💯
Even as an experienced dancer I've had times when I've been 100% at fault for stepping right into another dancers space and bumping into them! Like you I went out of my way to formally apologize! I also want to know " how did that happen? I saw nothing coming? Where where they coming from? " we both came to the conclusion that neither of us could have seen it coming, and we did our best to prevent it, it happens. Fortunately the other dancer complimented me and said " I've seen you out there dancing, you do a great job! I was a bit surprised when it happened, so I figured you weren't able to see me at all". I still remember that as a good experience!
Obviously crowded dance floors are not my preference. But I understand that its a sign of a healthy scene if there are a lot of people trying to dance. And I do think its sometimes (not always) fun to try to dance a bit smaller. Forces me to lead different things than I normally autopilot to. What REALLY pisses me off is when I am trying to dance small, and the people around me are STILL crashing into me because they are dancing as big as normal even though its OBVIOUS that its crowded. It just shows the utmost disrespect and inconsideration for fellow dancers. Unfortunately the worst people ruin it for everyone.
The people are not always bad just not mature in an adult environment. They may do.for innocent but silly reason like 1: they like the person tour dancing with romantically or sensually. 2: they like you, romantically or sensually
I get complimented quite often by my dance partners who tell me you did wonderful maneuvering me around everyone! ( Waltz, Foxtrot,Tango, Bolero) Then I remind them maneuvering a 70 ft 18-wheeler through downtown everyday helps a lot! What irritates me the most is the dance instructor who is getting paid to dance ,with 20 years experience, coming to a dead halt, in the outside fast lane to show off their fancy moves. ( Following proper dance etiquette)That and when we have a mixer, when there's several ladies standing in the line waiting for the next person to dance with, and these instructors, hosts, stay on the floor with their paying students, flaring their arms and banging into people! Fortunately enough people have complained about it and they've been banned from being at our group dances!
I felt the hair wip slap one,as someone who is more on the hobit scale you can imagine...oh the nastiness 😂 I agree about simple manners, to hit and b hit, no one is perfect but it does not take much to show mannnes and say sorry. I enjoy when men show less class, it easier to stand out and look better 😏
" I've outgrown that" had me laughing 😅. I tell my partners " I need my space, let's go somewhere else" or " this dance floor is tiny! I need more space".
Great video as always. I do find cuban dancers will take the space I'm using and not understand or care we need it to be safe and dance. I dance small already but crossbody dancers do need a small amount of room. 😊
I don't know if I'm the only one. But I get slightly frustrated when teachers teach or encourage really space consuming moves (performative, maybe not super social) that involve a lot of arm movement, especially when the class is clearly already crowded. I just don't see a lot of moves being practical on a crowded dancefloor, and I feel many leaders want to do these moves they learn no matter what. I feel I seem like I'm not cooperating with the leaders, but it honestly puts me on edge if I feel like I have to protect myself from things in a crowded room. I'm very long limbed so maybe I am especially worried about hurting others. I've also had a follower with a heavy watch practice an arm movement in a crowded class and just give me a painful whack on the head (even though I was just standing there spaced apart from her, not even moving). I asked the lady to take off her watch.... I sometimes feel like I'm being sensitive, but I think you do need to be aware to protect yourself. It's good to hear that other people get frustrated about people without spatial awareness too. I think the fact that people can be oblivious makes me wonder if I'm crazy for caring so much about space haha.
Sometimes I think I need to do something during the SLOW of the count. Cuz I think I travel too much so as not to force them to stay closer. I woulllpd love to be one of those dancers who can stay in the same spot.
Just this past weekend I grabbed my partner, firmly , did a quick back spot turn, came to a complete halt, as another couple came crashing into my backside. I stood firm, gave him a WTH are you doing !!Look? My partner said to me " he's a brand new dancer and she has no experience, they don't know any better! They're still learning and taking way to big a step". Honestly,.... that's okay. That's forgivable. We where all on the dance floor doing a Cha Cha, they where in the center of the floor taking up 3 times more space than is needed. The other dancers gave them space. ( protecting themselves from being run over) Fortunately ( hopefully) they will get spoken too and politely educated and corrected. Or people like me will tell the owner of the studio, " I want a refund of my $$$ for tonight, as long as you do nothing about enforcing proper dance etiquette , me and others won't be coming back. $$$ talks! One of the groups I attend has a sheet of paper on every table, with 12 dance rules and proper etiquette, printed on it. It also says if you fail to abide by these rules you will be asked to leave and will not receive a refund, and may be banned from future dances.
Do add a constructive aspect I feel there is 2 scenarios. I belive you either are in show mode or deep connection mode, I dance mostly on show mode. I like to provide an experience. From the moment I ask her, take her hand, bow no rush to start the dance, take her tonthe middle, show off some would put it but she in the center, bow, escorts her off this is the experience. Now I am guilty as in this process of walking her off In ppls path and get hit, she sees so feels protected, even though I apologies I jnow eaht I'm doing. AND HERR LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IS THE DARK TRUTH. MANY TIMES PPL HIT YOU THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING 💯 Yes, said it, said it I did SOMETIMES I can be in one spot, and have to play Dodge Dance. Things usually when guys like the girl and are worried she will like guy, my ego goes up when this happens 🙌 So sometimes it's others not always you. When they don't daysack sorry it the biggest give away 😂 Point is manners mistakes happen but always have good manners
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this is actually a REALLY good point to discuss, thank you for bringing this up! :) There is nothing more annoying than when someone with No Spatial Awareness keeps kicking and elbowing you while dancing near you on the dancefloor ! :D
I hate hate a crowded dancefloor, as a leader I feel its absolutely my responsibility to protect the follower, I find that I spend more time looking around than enjoying the dance unfortunately 😕
And if you are an unknown factor in a scene, it is your fault even if it isn't.
Increase your peripheral vision , an exercise that helped.me.was dancing around.the room.when not crowded, you learn anticipation and blocking techniques which may help your situation
Love this topic! And so agree with you, many people ea specially once their 20s are quite careless and inconsiderate of others
Daaamn how many times I bump into someone (my fault, their fault, both happen) and they don't acknowledge it! It grinds my gears too, I feel you on that one
@pachinkothemachine612 Yeah, it's so annoying 🙄
I purposely avoid places that I know are going to be busy as I too like space. However sometimes there are special events or people come “later” and places get crowded anyway. I can usually take a beating if bumping and accidents happen, but just this past Tuesday, someone actually scratched me with her nails. I actually had to stop dancing. I also didn’t see who it was and my partner seemed more concerned than the person who actually did it. Fortunately, there was no blood, but I think that might be an option to add to that list. I try to keep my nails short. Fake nails or long nails can be weapons on the dance floor, too.
When I was a beginner, I was taking too big steps and I guess I didn't have good control overall... and I must admit I stepped on feet and bumped on people too many times. I would always acknowledge it and after the dance I would try to formally apologise... but I was quite chocked I got really agressive response eventhough I was feeling genuinely sorry, and accidents had happened not out of selfishness but out of clumpsiness 😬 Now that I got better, I'm trying to be extra carefull and I agree with you, there's a lot of rude people out there. The less you can do when you bump onto someone else is to acknowledge what just happened.
If you have manners and say sorry anyone that is a dancer will be forgiving anyone there for other reasons, well.now you see one of the ways they expose themselves 😂
As long as you have good manners all can be forgiven 💯
Even as an experienced dancer I've had times when I've been 100% at fault for stepping right into another dancers space and bumping into them! Like you I went out of my way to formally apologize! I also want to know " how did that happen? I saw nothing coming? Where where they coming from? " we both came to the conclusion that neither of us could have seen it coming, and we did our best to prevent it, it happens. Fortunately the other dancer complimented me and said " I've seen you out there dancing, you do a great job! I was a bit surprised when it happened, so I figured you weren't able to see me at all". I still remember that as a good experience!
Obviously crowded dance floors are not my preference. But I understand that its a sign of a healthy scene if there are a lot of people trying to dance.
And I do think its sometimes (not always) fun to try to dance a bit smaller. Forces me to lead different things than I normally autopilot to.
What REALLY pisses me off is when I am trying to dance small, and the people around me are STILL crashing into me because they are dancing as big as normal even though its OBVIOUS that its crowded. It just shows the utmost disrespect and inconsideration for fellow dancers. Unfortunately the worst people ruin it for everyone.
@@orpheos9 absolutely 💯
The people are not always bad just not mature in an adult environment.
They may do.for innocent but silly reason like
1: they like the person tour dancing with romantically or sensually.
2: they like you, romantically or sensually
This should be played before every big event. Promoters should limit capacity to ensure safety. Saturday night was dangerous ❤
I agree 👍
@@DanceWithRasa am super space aware when dancing with Rasa and Jessica
I get complimented quite often by my dance partners who tell me you did wonderful maneuvering me around everyone! ( Waltz, Foxtrot,Tango, Bolero) Then I remind them maneuvering a 70 ft 18-wheeler through downtown everyday helps a lot!
What irritates me the most is the dance instructor who is getting paid to dance ,with 20 years experience, coming to a dead halt, in the outside fast lane to show off their fancy moves. ( Following proper dance etiquette)That and when we have a mixer, when there's several ladies standing in the line waiting for the next person to dance with, and these instructors, hosts, stay on the floor with their paying students, flaring their arms and banging into people! Fortunately enough people have complained about it and they've been banned from being at our group dances!
I agree with you 💯
Thank you Rasa❤
@@juratepetrikauskiene9908 😉😉😉
I felt the hair wip slap one,as someone who is more on the hobit scale you can imagine...oh the nastiness 😂
I agree about simple manners, to hit and b hit, no one is perfect but it does not take much to show mannnes and say sorry. I enjoy when men show less class, it easier to stand out and look better 😏
" I've outgrown that" had me laughing 😅. I tell my partners " I need my space, let's go somewhere else" or " this dance floor is tiny! I need more space".
🤣🤣🤣
Yes. I won't go someplace if I know it's too crowded.
Same here 😉
Great video as always. I do find cuban dancers will take the space I'm using and not understand or care we need it to be safe and dance. I dance small already but crossbody dancers do need a small amount of room. 😊
Great video Rasa, I was wondering if you ever seen a fight start off right in the middle of the dance floor for that reason?
I don't know if I'm the only one. But I get slightly frustrated when teachers teach or encourage really space consuming moves (performative, maybe not super social) that involve a lot of arm movement, especially when the class is clearly already crowded. I just don't see a lot of moves being practical on a crowded dancefloor, and I feel many leaders want to do these moves they learn no matter what. I feel I seem like I'm not cooperating with the leaders, but it honestly puts me on edge if I feel like I have to protect myself from things in a crowded room. I'm very long limbed so maybe I am especially worried about hurting others.
I've also had a follower with a heavy watch practice an arm movement in a crowded class and just give me a painful whack on the head (even though I was just standing there spaced apart from her, not even moving). I asked the lady to take off her watch....
I sometimes feel like I'm being sensitive, but I think you do need to be aware to protect yourself. It's good to hear that other people get frustrated about people without spatial awareness too. I think the fact that people can be oblivious makes me wonder if I'm crazy for caring so much about space haha.
Sometimes I think I need to do something during the SLOW of the count. Cuz I think I travel too much so as not to force them to stay closer. I woulllpd love to be one of those dancers who can stay in the same spot.
It took me ten years to learn how to still have fun to dance Tango on a crowded Milonga.
Fair enough 👌
Just this past weekend I grabbed my partner, firmly , did a quick back spot turn, came to a complete halt, as another couple came crashing into my backside. I stood firm, gave him a WTH are you doing !!Look?
My partner said to me " he's a brand new dancer and she has no experience, they don't know any better! They're still learning and taking way to big a step".
Honestly,.... that's okay. That's forgivable.
We where all on the dance floor doing a Cha Cha, they where in the center of the floor taking up 3 times more space than is needed. The other dancers gave them space. ( protecting themselves from being run over)
Fortunately ( hopefully) they will get spoken too and politely educated and corrected. Or people like me will tell the owner of the studio, " I want a refund of my $$$ for tonight, as long as you do nothing about enforcing proper dance etiquette , me and others won't be coming back. $$$ talks!
One of the groups I attend has a sheet of paper on every table, with 12 dance rules and proper etiquette, printed on it. It also says if you fail to abide by these rules you will be asked to leave and will not receive a refund, and may be banned from future dances.
Do add a constructive aspect I feel there is 2 scenarios.
I belive you either are in show mode or deep connection mode, I dance mostly on show mode. I like to provide an experience.
From the moment I ask her, take her hand, bow no rush to start the dance, take her tonthe middle, show off some would put it but she in the center, bow, escorts her off this is the experience.
Now I am guilty as in this process of walking her off In ppls path and get hit, she sees so feels protected, even though I apologies I jnow eaht I'm doing. AND HERR LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IS THE DARK TRUTH.
MANY TIMES PPL HIT YOU THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING 💯
Yes, said it, said it I did SOMETIMES I can be in one spot, and have to play Dodge Dance. Things usually when guys like the girl and are worried she will like guy, my ego goes up when this happens 🙌
So sometimes it's others not always you. When they don't daysack sorry it the biggest give away 😂
Point is manners mistakes happen but always have good manners
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