Great stuff Phil, it would have been interesting if Coverdale had got Rory Gallagher in the band, maybe Simon will answer that question on a new album. Phil on the Deep Purple live albums are you going to include the sonic zoom live releases. 👍
Enjoyed the hell out of this episode and you did an excellent job and reminded me to hunt down three or four Slade albums, the ones that displayed a heavier sound.
This was an awesome video. I would love to see a monthly show with these folks. We get excellent discussions with Martin and Pete weekly. These guys could provide additional insight.
This is absolutely my all time favorite SOT show, you need to have these guys back on again for another round table, both Peter and Phil are so knowledgeable.
Tragically HiP is a great example of a Canadian band that never hit big in the USA but I do think they had some minor success in certain parts of the US. I’m a Canadian living in Philadelphia and when Gord died,, a few local concert venues paid tribute to him. For example, the Philadelphia Fillmore immediately put up “RIP Gord” on their marquee signs. I was shocked.
It's a shame that Staus Quo, Budgie, Rose Tattoo, Diamond Head, The Skyhooks, and The Angels never really made it in the U.S. They're talented, great bands that deserved more.
Love all of those band, except never knew about Skyhooks, and these bands will remain our special little secret here in the states! Kinda cool to be in this exclusive club where we celebrate these widely unknown bands here in the USA, and therefore feel more of an individual connection to the band. But on the other hand, we do feel bad for these musicians lack of larger success, knowing full well that they deserve it. A lack of good fortune and bad timing are key factors in this lack of popularity. As well as weak promotion. Cool episode-thanks for this!
Some were doomed because of bad record company business or no record company at all. That's Diamond Head's issue, they never got signed properly and someone's mother of the band did a lot of the work. It did not work out well. Not to mention, they'd get stage fright.
Boy i remember my friends cousin visiting us in england from new zealand and he brought some of his angels tapes. One listen to no secrets and that was it! what a f****ing brilliant band!!!!
One band that instantly comes to mind is Golden Earring. Even though they had a couple of hits with Radar Love and Twilight Zone they didn't make it very big in the USA at least. I know in the Netherlands they were huge and they have a large catalog of music. They were an excellent band.
The Grateful Dead have a fanbase from all over the world (including me from South America) but I suppose the biggest of the "dead heads" would be mostly American
@@OathofthePeachGarden Ofc, you will find a fan"BASE" for every band in the world, but Greatful Dead were nowhere to be seen in e.g. Europe. Funny thing though that their most successful live album was recorded in '72 in Europe, but never sold there. They played 2k seaters at max in the UK and even smaller venues elsewhere.
@@independenceltd. They were big in Australia. Not AC/DC big, but they had some success and they are still highly regarded. In later years they also played at big festivals in Europe like Wacken, but never made much of an impact.
Run Runaway and My Oh My we’re very much on my radar. “Keep Your Hands off My Power Supply” which I believe was called “The Amazing Kamikaze Syndrome” in the U.K. made a very tiny dent on our charts. I loved it! I was just about 13 and I couldn’t find the album. A couple years later I found a greatest hits compilation. I’ve gotten very much into them in the last 15 years or so(in the age of streaming).
I am very glad that you are increasingly including Phil, whom I follow and consider to be a very nice person, a sincere lover of music who has something to say and share with others.
American here. I heard "Marseilles" by the Angels (Angel City here) on the radio and immediately dropped what I was doing to go buy the album, which was "Face to Face". I loved it, and played it for all my friends, most of whom were "meh" about it. I've been a huge fan ever since, and there are some great live videos on RUclips which I still queue up to this day. Doc Neeson (R.I.P.) was indeed a top-tier front man - he was a cross between Bon Scott, Jello Biafra and a circus monkey. Great songs, cool guitars and tight as a drum live. Check them out some evening after you've had a couple of beverages!
I found out about them in the mid to late '80s. Face to Face is great, track after track. I was in a band around that time and we covered a few of their tunes.
@@RockDaydreamNation I’m way down the rabbit hole. Currently listening to Ian Moss Matchbook. Everything that I have heard from Cold Chisel/Jimmy Barnes solo/Ian Moss solo has just been outstanding. Again thank you for the recommendation. I’m very happy to be down this rabbit hole 🎸😁
I think a lot of border towns would know them due to how many families had members on both sides of the border and the proximity to each country. I’d include Detroit in the same category. By the time you moved out to the city though the exposure dried up!
I mentioned this topic on another upload so looking forward to this one. Off the top of my head: US - Kansas U.K - The Jam CAN - Tragically Hip AUS - Cold Chisel / Jimmy Barnes? Can think of loads more from the UK as that’s where I’m from, but let’s see what the panel come up with
Yeah The Jam.... and Madness is another band that springs to mind. Madness must have had damn near 20 hit singles in a row. I don't think they ever really had that success anywhere else.
Tragically Hip, April Wine and Max Webster/Kim Mitchell all great bands that didn't get much outside of Canada where they are icons. Right behind them would be Trooper, Prism, Honeymoon Suite and Tom Cochrane/Red Rider. Martin as usual missed the boat on the first 3 or 4 Hip albums that were heavy rock and fantastic. If it ain't punk/metal Martin doesn't like it. And sorry Pete, Kiss was massive, massive, massive in Canada as well. My honorable mentions: Chilliwack, Saga, Glass Tiger, David Wilcox, Toronto, Stampeders, The Spoons, Sheep Dogs, Headstones, Platinum Blonde, Lighthouse, Copperpenny, Harlequin, Moxy, Payolas, Mahogany Rush, Helix, Killer Dwarfs, Pat Travers Band, Sass Jordan, Doug and the Slugs, Big Sugar, Bootsauce, Goddo and Teenage Head.
I remember seeing Honeymoon Suite as support for Status Quo at the NEC arena, Birmingham 1988. They were a good live band, didn’t do much chart wise though in the UK.
When I started watching this show, upon learning there was an Australian on it, I hoped The Angels/ Angel City would be discussed. I’ve loved Angel City since around the mid 80s. One of my favourite bands of the 80s. Love the raw sound & the intelligent lyrics.
Scott Muni of WNEW-FM used to have a show called “Things from England” every Friday afternoon from 4 to 6. He would play what was on the British charts, that was how I heard Slade, Suzy Quatro and many others.
This was excellent - as an Australian it was great to hear about Skyhooks and Cold Chisel. Skyhooks were simply the biggest band in the land in 1974-76. The Living In The 70s album is a masterpiece. As for Chisel, check out the live stuff - Barking Spiders Live is mad.
Finally The Tragically Hip getting a little exposure on SOT. Thanx Martin, although your description of them was frustrating to hear. They are anything but a middle of the road band, they are the best thing to ever come out of Canada. I’m one of those mean Québec seperatists and I love them to death.
Listening to that guy talking about Trooper reminds me of why do a large number of Canadians feel they have to act as inferior dicks when talking to Americans
Being from the US, I had never heard of them before this. The singer has a similar voice to John Mellencamp, and the music in many of the songs I’ve pulled up on RUclips sound like they would play well in the heartland of this country. If they had opened for Mellencamp or Bob Seger in the Michigan, Indiana, Ohio region they might have had a chance to break through here. They don’t seem like a band I would fall in love with, but I will probably buy some songs on iTunes.
Hi Guys. Great episode. For Canada, Martin nailed it but here is my list of my favourites who were widely big in Canada and unknown elsewhere: 1) Klaatu (first album was gold in the US as they were thought to be The Beatles reunited under "Klaatu" but following great albums with a lot of radio airplay in Canada were not known outside Canada) 2) The Ian Thomas band (SCTV's Dave Thomas' younger brother) had many hits and excellent albums in Canada but only "Painted Ladies" in the US but had many hit covers by bands like American and Santana. 3) Larry Gowan (Styx's new lead singer for the past 20 plus years) had many hits and good albums in Canada but was unknown elsewhere. Thanks, Guys Mike
If we're talking about the same Ian Thomas, the outro solo on the song "Levity" (1988) is excellent one of my favorites. Also the great American-born singer/songwriter Marc Jordan, not sure how well known he is outside Canada, quite a unique artist dabbled in many genres from AOR to jazz.
@@LarryFleetwood8675 Ian's best and truly excellent albums with classic songs with were his 1970s albums "Calabash (also named "Goodnight Mrs Calabash"), "Delights" and "Still Here"..If you haven't heard these songs and albums, do yourself a favour and have a listen as they are easily up to the quality of most musical artists anywhere and Ian is the closest thing to the Canadian Elton John at Elton's peak.
Really enjoyed this thanks. I'm an Aussie now living in Indiana USA. Ive found it realtively easy to turn mid-westerners onto Oz greats such as The Angels and Cold Chisel, so totally agree with what Peter put forward for Australia. I'd als add vSpy vSpy as another fantastic Oz pub rock band ! So many references in this podcast that resonated with me. Australia has a strange mix of culture, local, US and UK all mixed into one, so Phil's selection of Slade and Status Quo really resonated with me as a teenager in the 70s ( in fact Slade Alive is a desert island pick for me). Also love the "Killer Watts" reference: $10 for a double album which was fantastic gateway for me in the early 80s! UsSA is also a funny market, with so many bands here who we huge and almost like they saw no need to pursue other markets... so it comes as a suprise to people here in USA when i tell them I'd never heard of The James Gang until i came here in 2011. One final note in my essay... definitely agree with Peter on The Angels lyrically... check out The Moment (LP: Dark Room) and Dawn is breaking (LP: No Exit).
I really enjoyed this episode. A few comments: MARTIN - great memories for myself (62yr old Canadian) with your 3 pack to start. Amazing that after Prism's first LP, Tom Lavin left to form The Powder Blues, Ab Bryant went on to play with Chilliwack & The Headpins and drummer Rodney Higgs (actually Jim Vallance) went on to work with so many artists, most notably as a co-writer with Bryan Adams for years. And somehow, Prism carried on with a few more decent LPs. Allan Harlow still tours with a version of Prism. PETER K - Thank you for mentioning HooDoo Gurus, so many great songs Their videos received lots of play on Much Music (our MTV equivalent). They also were interviewed and performed live on Much Music whenever they played in Toronto in the 80s. I'm not sure how much radio airplay or record sales that exposure generated. Their Toronto shows (generally in smaller venues) were always well attended. PETER P - don't think this band was big even in The USA, but right in your back yard, and a favorite of mine from the 80's - The Del Lords. I was lucky enough to see them live once, so good in concert. PHIL - I am interested in your thoughts on Deacon Blue. In 1992, I was lucky enough to hear a cassette of a 1989 release, from an Aunt who lived in USA. No idea how she acquired it. There are live clips on youtube of them playing to massive crowds in the UK. Two number one LPs in the UK, several Top 40 singles and decent LP sales. I don't recall ever hearing them on the radio here in Canada. I recently found a CD copy of their Greatest Hits at a Thrift Shop. I believe they are still touring the UK. thank you all for this episode.
Super interesting discussion lads…..indeed Tragically Hip is a perfect example of a band who is much beloved at home and not beyond…..as well Status Quo, I believe they opened for Queen in the 80s. I really enjoyed this. I ordered a Cold Chisel cd, looking forward to listening to it. Thanks for this segment…..keep up the good work!
@@Jermeister12 The Hip are a Canadian Institution…they are a very unique band IMO….the early material really rocks and the later albums the songs are very sophisticated, they sing about Canada, Hockey and many other Canadian themes…..great frontman RIP Gord Downie ….I’m very surprised they never made it outside Canada but they sold tons, I mean tons of records here so financially they really didn’t need to move to other markets….I saw them 3 times over the years….a terrific live band!
Grand funk had a minor hit in Australia with the locomotion in 1974, and was also on a comp lp called explosive hits 74. Styx had a top 20 hit single with babe Other aust bands that could have been worth mentioning The divinyls Australian crawl Sherbet Dragon
Peter Kerr, I'm surprised to see you on this channel. I'm glad you're here and representing Australia. I'm actually watching this episode because of you. As usual, I learn something new. The backstory about music in Australia and the Scottish connection w/Jimmy Barnes and AC/DC, which I did know, was interesting. I didn't know about The Little River Band. I'll also add The Bee Gees and Olivia Newton John being British imports to Australia. The only band I knew that you mentioned was Cold Chisel because of Jimmy Barnes. The reason I know about Jimmy Barnes is because they did a song w/INXS called "Good Times" for the Lost Boys Soundtrack. They also did another song called "Laying Down the Law." At that time, "What You Need" was a huge hit and Listen Like Thieves was their breakthrough album in The States, and this was also just before Kick was released. And thanks for giving INXS some love once again. Oh, I'll mention Kylie Minogue. She's huge in Australia and the UK but not so much here. And the reason I know about her is because, yep, she dated Michael Hutchence. Yes, the roads through Australia seem to run through him. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I was thinking about the album verses singles question, and it made me think about the success of certain bands from Australia and the UK. I grew up in the 1980s and I knew of The Beatles, The Stones, The Who, Pink Floyd, Queen, ELP, Yes, T-Rex and Fleetwood Mac. I think all of these bands, w/the exception of Led Zeppelin had singles as well as albums. Led Zeppelin had only two top 40 hits I know of, "Whole Lotta Love" and "Fool in the Rain." As I see it, all of these bands have identifiable albums to their names. Even though T-Rex was not as successful as the other bands in The States, Electric Warrior was fairly successful here. Then, there's a band like The Hollies, who were popular in The UK and has chart success w/singles in The States but, I can't name a single album that belongs to them. I'd never heard of them until recently because my cable provider has a music channel called 60s British Invasion that plays a ton of their songs. The only Hollies songs I've heard on any classic rock channel are "Long Cool Woman" and He Ain't No Heavy. . . I'll also say the same goes for Australian bands. I know you've touched on the subject of Australian bands and their success in Australia verses the world over and we agreed that touring played a big part. You mentioned it here again. But I also think the album factor applies here. The Bee Gees will always be associated w/Saturday Night Fever, AC/DC w/Back in Black, Men at Work w/Business As Usual and INXS w/Kick. So, Peter, thanks to you, I've written another essay. See what you make me do 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@BillBlazejowski If that were the case, they wouldn't be in the ARIA Hall of Fame. You must be one of those rare Australians because, when I was there, they are still well loved. BTW, the Hard Rock Cafe in Sydney has a mural of him on their ceiling along with Kurt Cobain and Jimi Hendrix. So, you're allowed your opinion but, as far as I'm concerned, you can stick it where the sun don't shine. I'm sure you're the expert of great music as well. Don't bother, I don't care to know what you like. They probably suck anyway knowing your taste in music.
@@kimberlywalker3970 oh yes a cafe in Sydney having a picture of an Australian frontman proves they are at the height of public opinion 😂 All I said was what I know to be fact as I was born and raised in Australia and no one has a good word to say about those silly little rich boys from the northern beaches with their brand of weak rock for airheaded women like yourself.
Great show guys. Please ask Peter and Phil back, superb contributions from them, my favourite 4 people on the show now. How about bands who were bigger in *other* countries than their own? Def Leppard spring to mind, Pyromania was huge in America but not in the UK. Dr Hook were bigger in the UK than the US I think? This may have been done but if not would like to see it
I never realised Women in Uniform was a cover...and I had never heard of Skyhooks (the only band here I'd never heard of). Being from continental Europe, I think we were luckier here to hear music from all over the world, and not just being focused on our own market, which might have been to the detriment of local bands but certainly not to the listeners. Cheers.
I am in the USA and remember seeing Slade on TV. I think it was on Don Kirshner's Rock Concert. So, some of us over here have heard of Slade. That was many years ago. I am 66 years old now.
@@ilj1259 Yeah, I think that is true.... and honestly I wouldn't say they were 'huge' in the UK until Going Underground.. or maybe just before around 'Eton Rifles' and they only existed for a couple of years after that. News of the World, David Watts, All around the World barely dented the top 30. Their last album The Gift was their biggest UK album too. They were huge when they broke up though, Everyone I was at school with had 'Snap!' and they were so popular when I was at high school from '83 - '86.
Agree with Peter Kerr wholeheartedly. I saw them at The Whisky in Hollywood and they were the best live band I've ever seen, and I've seen dozens and dozens of shows there.
I grew up in Detroit. Most of these Canadian bands mentioned all had hits on the radio here. April Wine, Tragically Hip, Honeymoon Suite…etc. was it similar in other border cities?
Amazing discussion and a very interesting theme! I´m from Finland and we have of course lots of famous rock and heavy metal bands that are singing in Finnish and only well known in Finland. But for this topic I´m focusing on Finnish bands singing in English. By the way Kiss was huge in Finland in the eighties. My pick #1 is Hurriganes. They were the biggest rock band in Finland in the seventies but they didn´t make it anywhere else apart from Sweden. They were a trio with a singing drummer Remu. His vocal performances were interesting because he was sort of singing in English, but the lyrics didn´t make any sense. He was just singing English or English sounding words and sentences in quite random order. But Hurriganes were musically a very tight unit and their live performances were really intensive. Check out for example Get On which sounds a lot like Johnny B. Goode. My pick #2 is Wigwam. It was a prog rock band with incredible musicians in the seventies and they were big in Finland. They had a deal with Virgin Records and they had an English singer and keyboard player Jim Pembroke who wrote most of the songs and all the lyrics, so language was not an issue. Nuclear Nightclub is still considered a masterpiece album here in Finland. But for one or another reason they didn´t break through outside of Finland. My pick #3 is Tasavallan Presidentti. It was also an amazing prog rock band in the seventies and they had an English singer Frank Robson in the beginning and they also had the biggest Finnish guitar hero ever, Jukka Tolonen. But no success whatsoever outside of Finland. Sunrise Avenue is on the other hand an interesting Finnish rock band because it was enormous in Germany and very huge in the Central Europe overall, but they were absolutely nothing in the UK and in the US. And then I wanna also mention Zero Nine, a very great hard rock / heavy metal band mostly in the eighties, which performed outside of Finland together with Ozzy Osbourne, Def Leppard etc. Ian Gillan actually produced one of their records. Nevertheless they didn´t hit big outside of Finland.
I'm glad to see others mentioned it in the comments, but I think The Move is the canonical example of this for the UK, I'm surprised they didn't get a mention. Also Roy Wood's later band Wizzard, which did get a brief mention towards the end.
Great Show!! Fantastic guests. I took notes and will be exploring some of these. I Have Loved the Hoodoo Gurus since late 80's. Great fun band. Highly recommend. Well Done Everyone!!
I knew “Status Quo” was coming from Phil; I lived in England from 1980-1982 (American), and Quo was often featured on Top of the Pops. When we went home, we never heard about them.
Great episode. I particularly liked Phil's mention of SLADE. I remember them well in Canada in the early 70's but when I talked to my American cousins and friends about them, I would get blank stares. Ditto Martin Popoff's choice of Trooper....they were huge in the late 70's in Canada, but anybody I ever talked to outside of Canada had never heard of them.
Trooper had a ton of iconic hits and were also known as one of the best live shows in Canada. That came from industry insiders and also that Ra McGuire was one of the great frontmen at that time.
A fantastic discussion - from the UK I would offer Magnum (not sure how they went down in US, Canada and Oz). It would be interesting to see a debate about bands who were poorly promoted and perhaps those who were promoted beyond their talent
Saw the Angels a couple weeks ago down the pub, well the Alex hills tavern. Doc is long dead so the bloke out of the Screaming Jets was on vocals. Was a Great show.
Fascinating to hear about bands not breaking elsewhere but their own turf. Thanks to Martin and Peter Kerr, will definitely check Cold Chisel out! Phil, as always so good to hear your insightful comments. Great topic! In Sweden I can safely say that Status Quo and Slade were massive here, Styx and Kansas not so much but they were in the stacks but the bands mentioned by Martin and Peter Kerr were nowhere to be seen.
MAGNUM. Outstanding band, excellent musicianship, world-class songwriting, they had a stadium-rock sound that was huge in the US and yet they just never broke through. Listening to classic Magnum it's almost impossible to believe they weren't huge in the US.
Trooper, Streetheart, Harlequin, Prism, Toronto, Max Webster/Kim Mitchell, Red Rider, Chilliwack, Headpins, and of course April Wine were all terrific Canadian bands that didn't enjoy alot of success out of the country... but we Canadian kids all saw them and bought their records. They had music catalogues that would match, musically, any of the big US bands of the 70's and 80's.
I'm Australian and my mum and dad have multiple Slade and Status Quo records from back in the day, I think Aus has more of a connection to the UK than Phil realises. Saw another comment about Powderfinger and surprised that Peter didn't bring them up in the honourable mentions. Huge rock band here and Bernard Fanning (singer) had a successful solo career afterwards as well, yet most people my age (30s) from overseas have never heard of them.
I agree. Quo were a lot bigger in Australia than Phil made out. Albums On the level & Blue for you both went triple platinum. On the level was the 3rd biggest selling album of the year in Australia. Roll over lay down made Aus no’2 & numerous other Quo singles went top 10.
I’m a big Hoodoo Gurus fan, good pick Peter. I saw them in the 80’s in Detroit and met the band after the show and in fact, they just came here to Brazil to play. Other Aussie bands I was thinking of are, The Saints, Hunters and Collectors, The Go-Betweens and Icehouse. The Church and Midnight Oil are two of my favorite bands and both bands, especially The Church, had released quite a few albums before they became known in the US. Canadian bands Martin mentioned who were fairly known in the Detroit area other than Tragically Hip were Sloan and The Pursuit of Happiness, both great bands. As an American, I never got on the KISS train, never understood to this day the draw to that band I was never a Styx fan and only a mild Kansas fan, though I did have quite a few of their albums, I found them kind of “just there” and never really went to them much to listen to.
Hunter and Collectors are a great mention, just about every footy match at one point was playing Holy Grail, as well as school sports festivals. Do You See What I See was a big one too.
PFM had a brief period of fame in the US and UK in the early seventies but retreated to Italy by about 1977. They are still going strong and their latest live album The Event is awesome with Matteo Mancuso on guitar.
PFM is possibly more popular outside of Italy than inside, given the specific cultish genre they belonged to (euro prog rock). That is, they were still well known in italy, but way less popular than the likes of Poor or Nomadi who were more radio friendly
A brilliant episode, as always Martin and Pete are brilliant but great to get those fresh voices of Phil and Peter who for me are already approaching Rich Catino levels of greatness and knowledge
Great video guys. Really enjoyed the bit about Status Quo. As you all said Quo were massive in the UK & all over Europe & Asia (1970’s) The only market they didn’t crack was North America. Matchstick men made no’12 in the US & no’8 in Canada. Their Blue for for you album (entitled Status Quo in the US) made no’147 & charted for 7 weeks in the US. Quo did tour the US between 1974 - 1976 supporting bands like Aerosmith & ZZ Top. The gigs went down well, their main problem was poor management & a serious lack of airplay. Quo & the US punters never had a chance without a proper promotion. Even so worldwide Quo have sold approx 130m records. Their last visit in the US was in 2003 on their Heavy Traffic tour.
two bands stand out for me are a Scottish band The Almighty and a band Martin mentions on the odd occasion The manic street preachers who was huge over here in the uk around the time of 1996 till 2000's
My colleague from back in the day, Pavel - Czech ex ice hockey player (maybe where this comes from as he was playing hockey in the Cold War times) absolutely loves Kansas. I too love Kansas BUT didnt discover them until the 90's.
I remember seeing Slade in the early 70s on one of those concert TV shows like In Concert, or Don Kirshner. They were known in the US back then but they were considered one hit wonders.
It's always odd when considered one hit wonders one place, being considered a cultural institution elsewhere having countless hits. UK Singer Cliff Richard is another example, huge in Europe virtually unknown in the US.
Great video. I love this channel. It’s a great way the keep learning about music! At first glance, I believe “Silverchair” is big in Australia with only 1 or 2 albums getting somewhat popular in the US, and Hawkwind was definitely famous in the UK and never that big in the US and other markets.
I discovered Cold Chisel from this video about 4 months ago and I've been listening pretty much nonstop. Just a badass, straight-ahead rock band with great songs and killer vocals. I can't believe I've been missing this all my life!
Thank you everyone and a special thank you to Pete for inviting me to take part. Phil :)
Loved this episode and all the insight from bands I'm now discovering. Thank you!
Great stuff Phil, it would have been interesting if Coverdale had got Rory Gallagher in the band, maybe Simon will answer that question on a new album.
Phil on the Deep Purple live albums are you going to include the sonic zoom live releases. 👍
Enjoyed the hell out of this episode and you did an excellent job and reminded me to hunt down three or four Slade albums, the ones that displayed a heavier sound.
Hi Phil! I've always got the impression that T-Rex and Mott The Hoople were huge in the UK but not so big elsewhere. Am I right?
In terms of singles success, T Rex were the number 1 band in the UK between the Beatles splitting up and Slade taking over in (I think) late '72.
This was an awesome video. I would love to see a monthly show with these folks. We get excellent discussions with Martin and Pete weekly. These guys could provide additional insight.
Well said. Heck I'd be happy with more Pete n martin if I'm being honest. Back to this episode so good A+ episode!!
Thank you - Phil :)
👍
Absolutely. One of the better SOT videos lately
@@Intermentor It really was a great one.
Terrific episode!! I would love to see this international panel as a regular show on SOT.
This is absolutely my all time favorite SOT show, you need to have these guys back on again for another round table, both Peter and Phil are so knowledgeable.
😃👍
Thank you, it was a lot of fun - Phil
Thanks for your kind words! Great to be on a show with Pete, Martin and Phil
Really enjoying Phil's contributions of late
Tragically HiP is a great example of a Canadian band that never hit big in the USA but I do think they had some minor success in certain parts of the US. I’m a Canadian living in Philadelphia and when Gord died,, a few local concert venues paid tribute to him. For example, the Philadelphia Fillmore immediately put up “RIP Gord” on their marquee signs. I was shocked.
I’m in Virginia, but a couple of years ago got into Tragically Hip and was very impressed with their work. Sad that the lead singer passed too soon.
They were huge in Buffalo, NY, where I’m from. I would go as far to argue that The Hip were often treated like a hometown band here.
This was a great show. Make it a regular show with those four guys in the panel.
Thanks for the feedback! Was a lot of fun to do...
It's a shame that Staus Quo, Budgie, Rose Tattoo, Diamond Head, The Skyhooks, and The Angels never really made it in the U.S. They're talented, great bands that deserved more.
Love all of those band, except never knew about Skyhooks, and these bands will remain our special little secret here in the states! Kinda cool to be in this exclusive club where we celebrate these widely unknown bands here in the USA, and therefore feel more of an individual connection to the band. But on the other hand, we do feel bad for these musicians lack of larger success, knowing full well that they deserve it. A lack of good fortune and bad timing are key factors in this lack of popularity. As well as weak promotion. Cool episode-thanks for this!
Some were doomed because of bad record company business or no record company at all. That's Diamond Head's issue, they never got signed properly and someone's mother of the band did a lot of the work. It did not work out well. Not to mention, they'd get stage fright.
Shit, I remember seeing the tatts a bunch of times in the west of Sydney and there would be 30 people in the crowd.
Boy i remember my friends cousin visiting us in england from new zealand and he brought some of his angels tapes. One listen to no secrets and that was it! what a f****ing brilliant band!!!!
Great discussion here. I hope we see this group again for another episode.
Thank you it was great to be involved - Phil :)
Second that.
Pleasure to be on the show with Pete, Martin and Phil!
One band that instantly comes to mind is Golden Earring. Even though they had a couple of hits with Radar Love and Twilight Zone they didn't make it very big in the USA at least. I know in the Netherlands they were huge and they have a large catalog of music. They were an excellent band.
Have some great albums ! I think G.E.are quite underrated in the grand scale for sure
I’m happy to see Peter from @Rock Daydream Nation on the show!
UK - Blur
US - Greatful Dead
Canada - The Tragically Hip
Australia - Rose Tattoo
I had Rose Tattoo in mind and then forgot to list them (I was going to check to see if they were actually big Down Under...).
The Grateful Dead have a fanbase from all over the world (including me from South America) but I suppose the biggest of the "dead heads" would be mostly American
@@OathofthePeachGarden Ofc, you will find a fan"BASE" for every band in the world, but Greatful Dead were nowhere to be seen in e.g. Europe. Funny thing though that their most successful live album was recorded in '72 in Europe, but never sold there. They played 2k seaters at max in the UK and even smaller venues elsewhere.
@@independenceltd. They were big in Australia. Not AC/DC big, but they had some success and they are still highly regarded. In later years they also played at big festivals in Europe like Wacken, but never made much of an impact.
Dead …totally!! Maybe equally as Bruce…I think Stone Roses is a better UK example, at least Blur gets airplay (& stadium chants)
My favorite SOT to date. I really like what Phil and Peter brought to the show. More of this please.
Run Runaway and My Oh My we’re very much on my radar. “Keep Your Hands off My Power Supply” which I believe was called “The Amazing Kamikaze Syndrome” in the U.K. made a very tiny dent on our charts. I loved it! I was just about 13 and I couldn’t find the album. A couple years later I found a greatest hits compilation. I’ve gotten very much into them in the last 15 years or so(in the age of streaming).
Ready To Explode!
I know Skyhooks from Maiden in the Paul Di'Anno era covering Women in Uniform.
Slade and Status Quo were not only big in the UK, but also huge on the European continent.
Very popular yes and always on TV somewhere, both bands still playing today. Last I heard, Slade drummer Don Powell resided in Denmark.
I am very glad that you are increasingly including Phil, whom I follow and consider to be a very nice person, a sincere lover of music who has something to say and share with others.
That is very kind of you to say - Phil
American here. I heard "Marseilles" by the Angels (Angel City here) on the radio and immediately dropped what I was doing to go buy the album, which was "Face to Face". I loved it, and played it for all my friends, most of whom were "meh" about it. I've been a huge fan ever since, and there are some great live videos on RUclips which I still queue up to this day. Doc Neeson (R.I.P.) was indeed a top-tier front man - he was a cross between Bon Scott, Jello Biafra and a circus monkey. Great songs, cool guitars and tight as a drum live. Check them out some evening after you've had a couple of beverages!
Aussie here,saw them a bunch in the pubs around sydney in the 80s. There live album is killer. Coming down heavy as hell.
I found out about them in the mid to late '80s. Face to Face is great, track after track.
I was in a band around that time and we covered a few of their tunes.
Really enjoyed this. As an Aussie great to see Peter who mentioned my favourite Aussie Band Cold Chisel. Hope to see more of Peter and Phil on SOT.
I'm italian, and I love Cold Chisel.
I'm french and i like Cold Chisel
Today is the first time this American has heard of Cold Chisel!! They are tremendous!! I have yet to skip a song ✌️
@@charlespalermo6476 Glad you like them! Great rabbit hole to go in....
@@RockDaydreamNation I’m way down the rabbit hole. Currently listening to Ian Moss Matchbook. Everything that I have heard from Cold Chisel/Jimmy Barnes solo/Ian Moss solo has just been outstanding. Again thank you for the recommendation. I’m very happy to be down this rabbit hole 🎸😁
Noticed this episode quite late at night, planned to watch 10 minutes and then hit the sack, ended up watching the whole episode, it was terrific.
Thank you 😊
The Pursuit of Happiness, Blue Rodeo and Haywire are two great Canadian bands that come to mind.
I was thinking Haywire as well….gold and platinum albums here in Canada.
Born and raised in PEI, Marvin Burt Haywires guitarist is just stellar , so underrated
@@bubbadagger I know….we’re from the same hometown and I know Marvin….tremendous guitar player…..the whole band is stellar….great guys as well…
The first two did get a ton of airplay in the Buffalo area.
I think a lot of border towns would know them due to how many families had members on both sides of the border and the proximity to each country. I’d include Detroit in the same category. By the time you moved out to the city though the exposure dried up!
What a great panel! Thanks guys 👍
Well what a great knowledgeable quartet we have here! Great show and selections!
The four of you work really well together in this video. Very entertaining!
Thank you, it was an honour to be involved - Phil
Thanking you...a pleasure/honor to be involved in such great company
This is one of the best shows I’ve ever seen on Sea of Tranquility. I hope to see much more of Phil and Peter!
"Budgie took them under their wing" well played Pete!
Big Wreck have still been actively putting out albums. All worth owning!
Big Wreck are a very well kept Canadian secret....they definitely need USA exposure big time.
I mentioned this topic on another upload so looking forward to this one.
Off the top of my head:
US - Kansas
U.K - The Jam
CAN - Tragically Hip
AUS - Cold Chisel / Jimmy Barnes?
Can think of loads more from the UK as that’s where I’m from, but let’s see what the panel come up with
Yeah The Jam.... and Madness is another band that springs to mind. Madness must have had damn near 20 hit singles in a row. I don't think they ever really had that success anywhere else.
I know Our House was Madness's one big US hit. They were probably the most consistent hit singles band in the UK in the first half of the '80s.
Long time watcher but I've never commented before. But this episode was SO good I felt compelled to tell you! Keep it up! And thank you!
Tragically Hip, April Wine and Max Webster/Kim Mitchell all great bands that didn't get much outside of Canada where they are icons. Right behind them would be Trooper, Prism, Honeymoon Suite and Tom Cochrane/Red Rider. Martin as usual missed the boat on the first 3 or 4 Hip albums that were heavy rock and fantastic. If it ain't punk/metal Martin doesn't like it. And sorry Pete, Kiss was massive, massive, massive in Canada as well. My honorable mentions: Chilliwack, Saga, Glass Tiger, David Wilcox, Toronto, Stampeders, The Spoons, Sheep Dogs, Headstones, Platinum Blonde, Lighthouse, Copperpenny, Harlequin, Moxy, Payolas, Mahogany Rush, Helix, Killer Dwarfs, Pat Travers Band, Sass Jordan, Doug and the Slugs, Big Sugar, Bootsauce, Goddo and Teenage Head.
I agree with your choices, I'd like to add Saga. Have always liked their music!!!
Incorrect about April Wine...they did have some success and recognition in the U.S
I remember seeing Honeymoon Suite as support for Status Quo at the NEC arena, Birmingham 1988. They were a good live band, didn’t do much chart wise though in the UK.
Enjoying the evolution of this channel with the addition of music swamis like Phil
Aussie here. Great to hear Peter Kerr's choices and enjoyed this discussion. Just a note BTW: it's Ego Is NOT a Dirty Word. 😉😀
Great panel and great discussion. Definitely needs to be a regular line-up!
Appreciate the feedback...was such fun to do!
When I started watching this show, upon learning there was an Australian on it, I hoped The Angels/ Angel City would be discussed. I’ve loved Angel City since around the mid 80s. One of my favourite bands of the 80s. Love the raw sound & the intelligent lyrics.
What an enjoyable concept and such an entertaining panel. Great job all!
Appreciate your feedback...was so much fun to do!
Fantastic episode Pete. Great discussion and topic. Peter Kerr really knows his music. I would like to see more of him on your channel if possible.
Thanks Taylor...Appreciate your kind words!
@@RockDaydreamNation No problem Peter. I love your channel. I think it’s great.
👍
Scott Muni of WNEW-FM used to have a show called “Things from England” every Friday afternoon from 4 to 6. He would play what was on the British charts, that was how I heard Slade, Suzy Quatro and many others.
🎉 yes
Yep, I remember it.
Its a Rock Daydream Nation, Contrarian and SoT mashup. Great show.
Thank you!
This was excellent - as an Australian it was great to hear about Skyhooks and Cold Chisel. Skyhooks were simply the biggest band in the land in 1974-76. The Living In The 70s album is a masterpiece. As for Chisel, check out the live stuff - Barking Spiders Live is mad.
Loudness and Anthem quite popular in Japan
Never could break it in the USA
X-Ray, Bow Wow, EZO, Marino... so much cool bands from Japan
Kansas were quite big in Scandinavia, I bought my first Kansas album in Copenhagen in 1974, and have been a fan ever since
Finally The Tragically Hip getting a little exposure on SOT. Thanx Martin, although your description of them was frustrating to hear. They are anything but a middle of the road band, they are the best thing to ever come out of Canada. I’m one of those mean Québec seperatists and I love them to death.
Listening to that guy talking about Trooper reminds me of why do a large number of Canadians feel they have to act as inferior dicks when talking to Americans
Really enjoyed this discussion, it's great to hear the different perspectives about bands from people in Canada, UK, US and Australia.
Absolutely loved this discussion. Can't wait to see them again.
A superb premise for a discussion with a great panel. Thoroughly enjoyed this one.
Absolutely enjoyed this episode! Loved it. Thanks gents!!
Cold Chisel is such a great band and one of my favourites of all time!!!
Cheers...Your not alone there!
I’m with you @jacobheaney3836
Being from the US, I had never heard of them before this. The singer has a similar voice to John Mellencamp, and the music in many of the songs I’ve pulled up on RUclips sound like they would play well in the heartland of this country. If they had opened for Mellencamp or Bob Seger in the Michigan, Indiana, Ohio region they might have had a chance to break through here.
They don’t seem like a band I would fall in love with, but I will probably buy some songs on iTunes.
Hi Guys. Great episode.
For Canada, Martin nailed it but here is my list of my favourites who were widely big in Canada and unknown elsewhere:
1) Klaatu (first album was gold in the US as they were thought to be The Beatles reunited under "Klaatu" but following great albums with a lot of radio airplay in Canada were not known outside Canada)
2) The Ian Thomas band (SCTV's Dave Thomas' younger brother) had many hits and excellent albums in Canada but only "Painted Ladies" in the US but had many hit covers by bands like American and Santana.
3) Larry Gowan (Styx's new lead singer for the past 20 plus years) had many hits and good albums in Canada but was unknown elsewhere.
Thanks, Guys
Mike
If we're talking about the same Ian Thomas, the outro solo on the song "Levity" (1988) is excellent one of my favorites. Also the great American-born singer/songwriter Marc Jordan, not sure how well known he is outside Canada, quite a unique artist dabbled in many genres from AOR to jazz.
@@LarryFleetwood8675 Ian's best and truly excellent albums with classic songs with were his 1970s albums "Calabash (also named "Goodnight Mrs Calabash"), "Delights" and "Still Here"..If you haven't heard these songs and albums, do yourself a favour and have a listen as they are easily up to the quality of most musical artists anywhere and Ian is the closest thing to the Canadian Elton John at Elton's peak.
Great subject matter on this particular show and I wonder if part 2 is warranted...Cheers!
Great panel.....can't wait!!!
Blue rodeo are a great canadian example. Excellent catalogue of hits. Rock/countryish.
Really enjoyed this thanks. I'm an Aussie now living in Indiana USA. Ive found it realtively easy to turn mid-westerners onto Oz greats such as The Angels and Cold Chisel, so totally agree with what Peter put forward for Australia. I'd als add vSpy vSpy as another fantastic Oz pub rock band ! So many references in this podcast that resonated with me. Australia has a strange mix of culture, local, US and UK all mixed into one, so Phil's selection of Slade and Status Quo really resonated with me as a teenager in the 70s ( in fact Slade Alive is a desert island pick for me). Also love the "Killer Watts" reference: $10 for a double album which was fantastic gateway for me in the early 80s! UsSA is also a funny market, with so many bands here who we huge and almost like they saw no need to pursue other markets... so it comes as a suprise to people here in USA when i tell them I'd never heard of The James Gang until i came here in 2011. One final note in my essay... definitely agree with Peter on The Angels lyrically... check out The Moment (LP: Dark Room) and Dawn is breaking (LP: No Exit).
I really enjoyed this episode. A few comments:
MARTIN - great memories for myself (62yr old Canadian) with your 3 pack to start. Amazing that after Prism's first LP, Tom Lavin left to form The Powder Blues, Ab Bryant went on to play with Chilliwack & The Headpins and drummer Rodney Higgs (actually Jim Vallance) went on to work with so many artists, most notably as a co-writer with Bryan Adams for years. And somehow, Prism carried on with a few more decent LPs. Allan Harlow still tours with a version of Prism.
PETER K - Thank you for mentioning HooDoo Gurus, so many great songs Their videos received lots of play on Much Music (our MTV equivalent). They also were interviewed and performed live on Much Music whenever they played in Toronto in the 80s. I'm not sure how much radio airplay or record sales that exposure generated. Their Toronto shows (generally in smaller venues) were always well attended.
PETER P - don't think this band was big even in The USA, but right in your back yard, and a favorite of mine from the 80's - The Del Lords. I was lucky enough to see them live once, so good in concert.
PHIL - I am interested in your thoughts on Deacon Blue. In 1992, I was lucky enough to hear a cassette of a 1989 release, from an Aunt who lived in USA. No idea how she acquired it. There are live clips on youtube of them playing to massive crowds in the UK. Two number one LPs in the UK, several Top 40 singles and decent LP sales. I don't recall ever hearing them on the radio here in Canada. I recently found a CD copy of their Greatest Hits at a Thrift Shop. I believe they are still touring the UK.
thank you all for this episode.
Super interesting discussion lads…..indeed Tragically Hip is a perfect example of a band who is much beloved at home and not beyond…..as well Status Quo, I believe they opened for Queen in the 80s. I really enjoyed this. I ordered a Cold Chisel cd, looking forward to listening to it. Thanks for this segment…..keep up the good work!
I saw Tragically Hip at a festival .I thought they were pretty good.😀
@@Jermeister12 The Hip are a Canadian Institution…they are a very unique band IMO….the early material really rocks and the later albums the songs are very sophisticated, they sing about Canada, Hockey and many other Canadian themes…..great frontman RIP Gord Downie ….I’m very surprised they never made it outside Canada but they sold tons, I mean tons of records here so financially they really didn’t need to move to other markets….I saw them 3 times over the years….a terrific live band!
@@jmacallar Yeah JM they stood out that's for sure😀
It was put on by Albulm 88 a College Radio Station.
It was a nice day ,for an outdoor concert😀
@@Jermeister12 I’m happy you and some of our American friends got to hear The Hip! ….enjoy your days …
Grand funk had a minor hit in Australia with the locomotion in 1974, and was also on a comp lp called explosive hits 74.
Styx had a top 20 hit single with babe
Other aust bands that could have been worth mentioning
The divinyls
Australian crawl
Sherbet
Dragon
Great show 👍 this show had the perfect guest. Please have more of Peter and Phil! And Martin of course.
Thank you - Phil
Peter Kerr, I'm surprised to see you on this channel. I'm glad you're here and representing Australia. I'm actually watching this episode because of you. As usual, I learn something new. The backstory about music in Australia and the Scottish connection w/Jimmy Barnes and AC/DC, which I did know, was interesting. I didn't know about The Little River Band. I'll also add The Bee Gees and Olivia Newton John being British imports to Australia. The only band I knew that you mentioned was Cold Chisel because of Jimmy Barnes. The reason I know about Jimmy Barnes is because they did a song w/INXS called "Good Times" for the Lost Boys Soundtrack. They also did another song called "Laying Down the Law." At that time, "What You Need" was a huge hit and Listen Like Thieves was their breakthrough album in The States, and this was also just before Kick was released. And thanks for giving INXS some love once again. Oh, I'll mention Kylie Minogue. She's huge in Australia and the UK but not so much here. And the reason I know about her is because, yep, she dated Michael Hutchence. Yes, the roads through Australia seem to run through him. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was thinking about the album verses singles question, and it made me think about the success of certain bands from Australia and the UK. I grew up in the 1980s and I knew of The Beatles, The Stones, The Who, Pink Floyd, Queen, ELP, Yes, T-Rex and Fleetwood Mac. I think all of these bands, w/the exception of Led Zeppelin had singles as well as albums. Led Zeppelin had only two top 40 hits I know of, "Whole Lotta Love" and "Fool in the Rain." As I see it, all of these bands have identifiable albums to their names. Even though T-Rex was not as successful as the other bands in The States, Electric Warrior was fairly successful here. Then, there's a band like The Hollies, who were popular in The UK and has chart success w/singles in The States but, I can't name a single album that belongs to them. I'd never heard of them until recently because my cable provider has a music channel called 60s British Invasion that plays a ton of their songs. The only Hollies songs I've heard on any classic rock channel are "Long Cool Woman" and He Ain't No Heavy. . .
I'll also say the same goes for Australian bands. I know you've touched on the subject of Australian bands and their success in Australia verses the world over and we agreed that touring played a big part. You mentioned it here again. But I also think the album factor applies here. The Bee Gees will always be associated w/Saturday Night Fever, AC/DC w/Back in Black, Men at Work w/Business As Usual and INXS w/Kick. So, Peter, thanks to you, I've written another essay. See what you make me do 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hey Kimberly! Love your feedback (as always)...was truly special to be on the show with Pete, Martin and Phil....glad you watched it!
You'll be hard pressed to find many fans of INXS in Australia, most people think they're awful. And they're right.
@@BillBlazejowski If that were the case, they wouldn't be in the ARIA Hall of Fame. You must be one of those rare Australians because, when I was there, they are still well loved. BTW, the Hard Rock Cafe in Sydney has a mural of him on their ceiling along with Kurt Cobain and Jimi Hendrix. So, you're allowed your opinion but, as far as I'm concerned, you can stick it where the sun don't shine. I'm sure you're the expert of great music as well. Don't bother, I don't care to know what you like. They probably suck anyway knowing your taste in music.
@@kimberlywalker3970 oh yes a cafe in Sydney having a picture of an Australian frontman proves they are at the height of public opinion 😂
All I said was what I know to be fact as I was born and raised in Australia and no one has a good word to say about those silly little rich boys from the northern beaches with their brand of weak rock for airheaded women like yourself.
Great show guys. Please ask Peter and Phil back, superb contributions from them, my favourite 4 people on the show now. How about bands who were bigger in *other* countries than their own? Def Leppard spring to mind, Pyromania was huge in America but not in the UK. Dr Hook were bigger in the UK than the US I think? This may have been done but if not would like to see it
I never realised Women in Uniform was a cover...and I had never heard of Skyhooks (the only band here I'd never heard of).
Being from continental Europe, I think we were luckier here to hear music from all over the world, and not just being focused on our own market, which might have been to the detriment of local bands but certainly not to the listeners.
Cheers.
I am in the USA and remember seeing Slade on TV. I think it was on Don Kirshner's Rock Concert. So, some of us over here have heard of Slade. That was many years ago. I am 66 years old now.
The Jam- Great Britain. They had Beatles- type record sales in England but couldn't get arrested anywhere else.
Perhaps it was the cockney accents made them sound very English.
Their final couple of albums started to sell in the USA... then they broke up.
@@ilj1259 Yeah, I think that is true.... and honestly I wouldn't say they were 'huge' in the UK until Going Underground.. or maybe just before around 'Eton Rifles' and they only existed for a couple of years after that. News of the World, David Watts, All around the World barely dented the top 30. Their last album The Gift was their biggest UK album too. They were huge when they broke up though, Everyone I was at school with had 'Snap!' and they were so popular when I was at high school from '83 - '86.
@@ilj125918 consecutive Top 40 singles in the United Kingdom, is an absolutely insane achievement, especially in the late 70's- early 80's.
Agree with Peter Kerr wholeheartedly. I saw them at The Whisky in Hollywood and they were the best live band I've ever seen, and I've seen dozens and dozens of shows there.
...The Angels ;)
@@thewurm9177 Yes they were one of the best
Loved Slade. I saw them at the Philadelphia Spectrum. I think Golden Earring opened for them. They headlined. They had a short run in the US.
I grew up in Detroit. Most of these Canadian bands mentioned all had hits on the radio here. April Wine, Tragically Hip, Honeymoon Suite…etc. was it similar in other border cities?
Amazing discussion and a very interesting theme! I´m from Finland and we have of course lots of famous rock and heavy metal bands that are singing in Finnish and only well known in Finland. But for this topic I´m focusing on Finnish bands singing in English. By the way Kiss was huge in Finland in the eighties. My pick #1 is Hurriganes. They were the biggest rock band in Finland in the seventies but they didn´t make it anywhere else apart from Sweden. They were a trio with a singing drummer Remu. His vocal performances were interesting because he was sort of singing in English, but the lyrics didn´t make any sense. He was just singing English or English sounding words and sentences in quite random order. But Hurriganes were musically a very tight unit and their live performances were really intensive. Check out for example Get On which sounds a lot like Johnny B. Goode. My pick #2 is Wigwam. It was a prog rock band with incredible musicians in the seventies and they were big in Finland. They had a deal with Virgin Records and they had an English singer and keyboard player Jim Pembroke who wrote most of the songs and all the lyrics, so language was not an issue. Nuclear Nightclub is still considered a masterpiece album here in Finland. But for one or another reason they didn´t break through outside of Finland. My pick #3 is Tasavallan Presidentti. It was also an amazing prog rock band in the seventies and they had an English singer Frank Robson in the beginning and they also had the biggest Finnish guitar hero ever, Jukka Tolonen. But no success whatsoever outside of Finland. Sunrise Avenue is on the other hand an interesting Finnish rock band because it was enormous in Germany and very huge in the Central Europe overall, but they were absolutely nothing in the UK and in the US. And then I wanna also mention Zero Nine, a very great hard rock / heavy metal band mostly in the eighties, which performed outside of Finland together with Ozzy Osbourne, Def Leppard etc. Ian Gillan actually produced one of their records. Nevertheless they didn´t hit big outside of Finland.
I'm glad to see others mentioned it in the comments, but I think The Move is the canonical example of this for the UK, I'm surprised they didn't get a mention. Also Roy Wood's later band Wizzard, which did get a brief mention towards the end.
Great show guys. Thanks
Wow, just a fantastic show. Hopefully this group can do a regular show.
It was wonderful being involved, very inspiring as well - Phil
That was an awesome programme.
I really enjoyed that, very interesting & informative.
Great guests, hope we get to see them again.
Thank you - Phil
This has been one the best SoT shows in months. Keep up the great discussions Pete!
Thank you, it was fantastic to be involved - Phil
First three that came to mind:
Grand Funk Railroad - US
The Sensational Alex Harvey Band - UK
Max Webster - Canada
GFR in USA and Canada but virtually unknown elsewhere. The critics were idiots.
Great Show!! Fantastic guests. I took notes and will be exploring some of these. I Have Loved the Hoodoo Gurus since late 80's. Great fun band. Highly recommend. Well Done Everyone!!
I knew “Status Quo” was coming from Phil; I lived in England from 1980-1982 (American), and Quo was often featured on Top of the Pops. When we went home, we never heard about them.
Slade!! Status Quo!! Legends! i still listen to Quo now....but not their commercial shite. The old stuff is terrific.
Trooper had a huge hit in the US Midwest with Raise A Little Hell. Our rock station, KSHE-95, would play Prism too.
Same with our rock station KQRS-92.
Great episode. I particularly liked Phil's mention of SLADE. I remember them well in Canada in the early 70's but when I talked to my American cousins and friends about them, I would get blank stares. Ditto Martin Popoff's choice of Trooper....they were huge in the late 70's in Canada, but anybody I ever talked to outside of Canada had never heard of them.
Trooper had a ton of iconic hits and were also known as one of the best live shows in Canada. That came from industry insiders and also that Ra McGuire was one of the great frontmen at that time.
A fantastic discussion - from the UK I would offer Magnum (not sure how they went down in US, Canada and Oz). It would be interesting to see a debate about bands who were poorly promoted and perhaps those who were promoted beyond their talent
Saw the Angels a couple weeks ago down the pub, well the Alex hills tavern. Doc is long dead so the bloke out of the Screaming Jets was on vocals. Was a Great show.
looking forward to part 2.
Fascinating to hear about bands not breaking elsewhere but their own turf. Thanks to Martin and Peter Kerr, will definitely check Cold Chisel out! Phil, as always so good to hear your insightful comments. Great topic! In Sweden I can safely say that Status Quo and Slade were massive here, Styx and Kansas not so much but they were in the stacks but the bands mentioned by Martin and Peter Kerr were nowhere to be seen.
MAGNUM. Outstanding band, excellent musicianship, world-class songwriting, they had a stadium-rock sound that was huge in the US and yet they just never broke through. Listening to classic Magnum it's almost impossible to believe they weren't huge in the US.
Trooper, Streetheart, Harlequin, Prism, Toronto, Max Webster/Kim Mitchell, Red Rider, Chilliwack, Headpins, and of course April Wine were all terrific Canadian bands that didn't enjoy alot of success out of the country... but we Canadian kids all saw them and bought their records. They had music catalogues that would match, musically, any of the big US bands of the 70's and 80's.
Wow, fantastic show. Thank you for putting this together, Pete!
I'm Australian and my mum and dad have multiple Slade and Status Quo records from back in the day, I think Aus has more of a connection to the UK than Phil realises. Saw another comment about Powderfinger and surprised that Peter didn't bring them up in the honourable mentions. Huge rock band here and Bernard Fanning (singer) had a successful solo career afterwards as well, yet most people my age (30s) from overseas have never heard of them.
Powderfinger! Loved em', great riffs and melodies, tight and highly hooky tuneage! Should have been big here in USA!
I agree. Quo were a lot bigger in Australia than Phil made out. Albums On the level & Blue for you both went triple platinum. On the level was the 3rd biggest selling album of the year in Australia. Roll over lay down made Aus no’2 & numerous other Quo singles went top 10.
Excellent episode! Being an Aussie myself, we have seen so many big bands here that were huge, venture overseas and just bomb!
I’m a big Hoodoo Gurus fan, good pick Peter. I saw them in the 80’s in Detroit and met the band after the show and in fact, they just came here to Brazil to play. Other Aussie bands I was thinking of are, The Saints, Hunters and Collectors, The Go-Betweens and Icehouse. The Church and Midnight Oil are two of my favorite bands and both bands, especially The Church, had released quite a few albums before they became known in the US.
Canadian bands Martin mentioned who were fairly known in the Detroit area other than Tragically Hip were Sloan and The Pursuit of Happiness, both great bands.
As an American, I never got on the KISS train, never understood to this day the draw to that band I was never a Styx fan and only a mild Kansas fan, though I did have quite a few of their albums, I found them kind of “just there” and never really went to them much to listen to.
Hunter and Collectors are a great mention, just about every footy match at one point was playing Holy Grail, as well as school sports festivals. Do You See What I See was a big one too.
@@Xondrell AFL National Anthem!
At the time, the bass player from The Bangles was seeing one of the guys in Hoodoo Gurus.
Great bands you mentioned love the church and gurus
PFM had a brief period of fame in the US and UK in the early seventies but retreated to Italy by about 1977. They are still going strong and their latest live album The Event is awesome with Matteo Mancuso on guitar.
PFM is possibly more popular outside of Italy than inside, given the specific cultish genre they belonged to (euro prog rock). That is, they were still well known in italy, but way less popular than the likes of Poor or Nomadi who were more radio friendly
A brilliant episode, as always Martin and Pete are brilliant but great to get those fresh voices of Phil and Peter who for me are already approaching Rich Catino levels of greatness and knowledge
I had never heard of The Angels. Just listened to "Take a Long Time". These guys were amazing. Will be digging in further!
Great video guys. Really enjoyed the bit about Status Quo. As you all said Quo were massive in the UK & all over Europe & Asia (1970’s) The only market they didn’t crack was North America. Matchstick men made no’12 in the US & no’8 in Canada. Their Blue for for you album (entitled Status Quo in the US) made no’147 & charted for 7 weeks in the US. Quo did tour the US between 1974 - 1976 supporting bands like Aerosmith & ZZ Top. The gigs went down well, their main problem was poor management & a serious lack of airplay. Quo & the US punters never had a chance without a proper promotion. Even so worldwide Quo have sold approx 130m records. Their last visit in the US was in 2003 on their Heavy Traffic tour.
That being said, I loved the show and would very much like to see that panel again. Love you guys. Music = Life.
Thank you for watching- Phil
two bands stand out for me are a Scottish band The Almighty and a band Martin mentions on the odd occasion The manic street preachers who was huge over here in the uk around the time of 1996 till 2000's
Great White covered “Face The Day” & “Can’t Shake It” by The Angels.
Glad the Hoodoo Gurus got a mention as well.
Great topic. Maybe the reverse next time.
I think for example Mr.Big is big ( no pun intended) in japan but not so much in States
My colleague from back in the day, Pavel - Czech ex ice hockey player (maybe where this comes from as he was playing hockey in the Cold War times) absolutely loves Kansas. I too love Kansas BUT didnt discover them until the 90's.
Great topic. I would love to see a guest from Germany, they had so many bands that went under the radar.
I remember seeing Slade in the early 70s on one of those concert TV shows like In Concert, or Don Kirshner. They were known in the US back then but they were considered one hit wonders.
It's always odd when considered one hit wonders one place, being considered a cultural institution elsewhere having countless hits. UK Singer Cliff Richard is another example, huge in Europe virtually unknown in the US.
I recall my brother had Slade Alive (in Canada) so they must have had some sort of profile in Canada
Love checking out some of the bands that are new to me as a Canadian. Skyhooks was a great discovery. Enjoying them a lot
ruclips.net/video/WFHcvcZCzlQ/видео.html
Enjoyable discussion. Genuinely surprised that Pete and Phil were unaware of Skyhooks, given the Iron Maiden connection.
Great video. I love this channel. It’s a great way the keep learning about music!
At first glance, I believe “Silverchair” is big in Australia with only 1 or 2 albums getting somewhat popular in the US, and Hawkwind was definitely famous in the UK and never that big in the US and other markets.
Definitely one of the best SoT lineups!
I discovered Cold Chisel from this video about 4 months ago and I've been listening pretty much nonstop. Just a badass, straight-ahead rock band with great songs and killer vocals. I can't believe I've been missing this all my life!