Thank you as always Pattie!! I could only watch the first few minutes, but he already said "I was angry at that family and I was angry at my wife" as if that made it ok.
Wow thank you! This was so much needed! I feel so much better seeing this. I agree that he probably doesn't fully understand the truth of what he's done. Probably because its too much for him to actually own up to. I would also never trust my kids around him in any way. I have personally experienced alot of what he described and wish my abuser would at least start with where gershon is up to. Is it crazy to hope that at some point there is actually healing available for abusers to the point where they will truly apologize to me for what they've done?
@Mendy, I'm very grateful that you exposed a person who has committed abuse speaking on his own terms. For those of us who have never consciously met or been confronted with people who have and act on this toiva, your interview and the follow-ups are enlightening. The interview is obviously uncomfortable for some people, but could that really be avoided considering the topic? I think not. Even though victims have been through hell, I think that some humility on the part of their spokespeople is warranted in recognizing that the emotional reactions of certain victims should not be the be-all-and-end-all governing discussions about this very important topic for the entire community.
check out the book predators by anna salter and her video taped interviews with offenders in the 90s of the Alabama usa prison systems. there are even more sick individuals
Great to know!! Thanks for sharing that info! It turns out he was hired to be a bus monitor. But a few weeks after I filmed this interview he was fired for physical abuse.
@MendyPellin I never had a bus monitor that sat next to a kid. The front seat was only for the bus monitor. It would be a red flag for me (as I am a sexual abused victim)
I don't like pedophiles any bit. If I am correct the interview with Gershon was not to hear a sorry cry! It was to understand what made him pick a victim and then think its OK which he did a beautiful job at And no once a pedo always a pedo and they need to have the knowledge and will to fight it and yes people should be more cautious She is talking from a place of pain which I understand once you see the damage and havoc created by it you get very angry at such people but she just looks like someone who wants him to commit suicide and leave his inheritance to her charity
I hated having to kiss and hug adults when I was a kid. One of my old babysitters would lock me (age 6) and my brother (age 4) in a storage pantry while she worked. I can't remember for how long, but it had a light, and she'd bring us a fruit cup or pudding in the middle of it. But afterward, she'd take us to all the old people, and they'd give us kisses. I thought that was so much worse! I knew she had done this more than once because I dreaded having to go kiss them. I know they were old, lonely people, but back then, they were scary looking to me. The 80s were so much different! When I was 7, I had an older teen male babysitter who watched us almost every evening/night for about 6 months. My mom told me she hired him because he was cheap. 🙄 Years later, I found out my dad thought he was "odd." My parents were teens when they had me and had no idea how to raise us. They divorced during this time and my Dad would get us every other weekend. My mom would always leave me alone when I was 6 and 7 or have this guy watch us. I've blocked a lot of memories from this time, and I can't remember what happened. My mom got with my stepdad when I was 8, and she became a stay-at-home mom for the rest of my childhood. My stepdad was (still is) an awesome dad growing up. But I do remember being sexually inappropriate when I was 8 and 9 and had a lot of behaviors that suggested sexual abuse. My mother didn't see them or wanted to ignore them. Who'd let their child be babysat by a male babysitter? I know there are female abusers, and I know not all male babysitters are abusers. I'm curious.
.. she was spot on from beginning to end. the interview was amazing and beyond insight although i felt a lot of the answers were rehearsed. i also feel he has the inclination to reoffend again but probably won’t more than likely because he’s getting his needs met inside the home with his own children. 👀 he might not be actually touching them, but there’s other ways.
yes I 100 agree. I believe he had been abusing his own children the whole time in front of his wife. and now that hes under watch, he is keeping it back in the home once again. 6 kids all in their target age range.. he was beyond pleased with himself and thought it was a big joke
I can't help wondering if there's some degree of HFA (high functioning Asperger's) at play here. The mechanical way in which Gershon presents... the disconnect from the other's experience...is soo similar to behaviors of addicts that I've met who finally received an official diagnosis. There's no doubt that the behavior is soul killing and traumatizing to the victims and the community needs to develop greater awareness while these people are kept far away from their potential victims. At the same time, identifying and getting to the root of the issues while these men are still boys might prevent some of the destruction.
I am not sympathizing with Gershon but I do feel like her opinions were biased. The man does not need to keep being vilanized and made an example of. He is not the only predator in the world. They walk amongst us daily. Using his coming out publicly and owning his behavior should not be an open season on him. It should be a learning experience for everyone on either sides of it. Victims and predators and parents. It should be a way to have open discussions about the topic ( not him)! As a mother I’m more afraid of those who aren’t on the registry and whom we don’t know about.
I think he made it very clear in his interview that it's not something that can ever be fully cured and therefore his is taking caution not to be near or involved any thing with kids and he acknowledged all of it so what else did you want him to say?
I think it's not just about what he says, but how he says it. I agree with both professionals that he didn't look like he truly believed what he did was wrong. He understood intellectually but not really. Also, the victim blaming is a good sign that he is not cured, he's putting the responsibility on the kids to say no to break his fantasy he created. He also talks like his crimes were not as bad as other crimes out there.. the fact that he insinuates that his abuse was not that bad, not that many victims... shows he's still giving himself excuses and has a lot of self compassion. Maybe a little too much
If he would say and cry how sorry he is then many will say he is trying to gain sympathy, he just answered whatever mendy asked him, and in my opinion putting yourself out in such a way in our community shows how sorry he is, he gains nothing from this because he clearly says he still has this struggle and is not safe which will probably make him unwanted in much more places now.
He gave way too many excuses and justifications, all of which defy common sense and basic human reasoning. eg. as mentioned in this vid, he claimed not enough sex with his wife made him molest kids, which is clearly complete nonsense. Or that a small child "didnt object" or "was sleeping so no harm", or "no penetration" but "other bad people are way worse" , or that his trigger is "not being satisfied in every regard with his life???" (have you heard worse excuses? these are some seriously pathetic ones) clearly the guy isnt completely there in the head and is somehow wanting to convey he was a relatively "good" offender, who is a victim of all these excuses . Yes him coming on camera was informative to us, information is power and can be used to protect our children, but he also tried playing a victim card for whatever reason as well (maybe to garner some sympathy since he is likely a pariah). Someone should tell him that being an outcast is actually a good thing since it can add some additional deterrence to other potential offenders.
@@PJump2bh he never said it was an excuse or a justification, he was explaining some of the triggers, one of them being sexual frustration (twd his wife). It's complete BS to pretend that bad actors cannot be triggered by good people and one of the therapists actually said that pent up sexual frustration causes predators to act out. Let's not confuse a "reason" with a "justification". Have an easy fast!
@@hendystein367 Are you joking, sexual frustration does not equal sexually molesting innocent children. Its a pathetic excuse that simply does not compute for normal humans. These reasons are not real reasons, the guy was hell bent on molesting innocent, defenseless children one way or another, and these made up reasons and triggers played no part in it.
@@PJump He is exploring the factors that made him vulnerable to giving in to his desire. It doesn't have to equal anything to anyone else or make sense to anyone else. This was his experience and understanding. He could have just as easily ended up offending due to other factors at another time. The sexual frustration isn't an excuse or a reason. It's just a piece, among many, of a puzzle, the main one being that he was likely born a pedophile. Perhaps it would have been slightly easier for him to resist temptation for some time with certain things in place at certain times.
@@KAZAM707 His wife for example could never have satisfied his sexual cravings the same way she couldn't if he was gay, he craved sexual encounters with children, thats what he desired full stop. Therefore all his excuses are just nonsensical and show he is not willing to accept that he and he alone is the problem.
It's not irrelevant. You can disregard her opinion on Gershon. But she gives a lot of tools for parents. She also has a lot of experience with this issue, so her opinion is a great input. This interview is very relevant.
Thank you as always Pattie!! I could only watch the first few minutes, but he already said "I was angry at that family and I was angry at my wife" as if that made it ok.
Now that was worth listening to. She was excellent!
Wow thank you! This was so much needed! I feel so much better seeing this. I agree that he probably doesn't fully understand the truth of what he's done. Probably because its too much for him to actually own up to. I would also never trust my kids around him in any way. I have personally experienced alot of what he described and wish my abuser would at least start with where gershon is up to. Is it crazy to hope that at some point there is actually healing available for abusers to the point where they will truly apologize to me for what they've done?
Shes great
"This is not rocket science"
Maybe we shouldnt be waiting until chosson classes to teach sex-ed.
@Mendy, I'm very grateful that you exposed a person who has committed abuse speaking on his own terms. For those of us who have never consciously met or been confronted with people who have and act on this toiva, your interview and the follow-ups are enlightening. The interview is obviously uncomfortable for some people, but could that really be avoided considering the topic? I think not. Even though victims have been through hell, I think that some humility on the part of their spokespeople is warranted in recognizing that the emotional reactions of certain victims should not be the be-all-and-end-all governing discussions about this very important topic for the entire community.
check out the book predators by anna salter and her video taped interviews with offenders in the 90s of the Alabama usa prison systems. there are even more sick individuals
I am a school bus driver, and it is not allowed as per state regulations anyone besides the students to get on the bus
Great to know!! Thanks for sharing that info! It turns out he was hired to be a bus monitor. But a few weeks after I filmed this interview he was fired for physical abuse.
@MendyPellin I never had a bus monitor that sat next to a kid. The front seat was only for the bus monitor. It would be a red flag for me (as I am a sexual abused victim)
We need to make these rules for airplanes too!! No man should be seated next to a young girl for a any period of time!!
Unfortunately some children (that probably have been abused) would abuse other children and in the bus as well. 😭
I don't like pedophiles any bit. If I am correct the interview with Gershon was not to hear a sorry cry! It was to understand what made him pick a victim and then think its OK which he did a beautiful job at
And no once a pedo always a pedo and they need to have the knowledge and will to fight it and yes people should be more cautious
She is talking from a place of pain which I understand once you see the damage and havoc created by it you get very angry at such people but she just looks like someone who wants him to commit suicide and leave his inheritance to her charity
I hated having to kiss and hug adults when I was a kid. One of my old babysitters would lock me (age 6) and my brother (age 4) in a storage pantry while she worked. I can't remember for how long, but it had a light, and she'd bring us a fruit cup or pudding in the middle of it. But afterward, she'd take us to all the old people, and they'd give us kisses. I thought that was so much worse! I knew she had done this more than once because I dreaded having to go kiss them. I know they were old, lonely people, but back then, they were scary looking to me. The 80s were so much different!
When I was 7, I had an older teen male babysitter who watched us almost every evening/night for about 6 months. My mom told me she hired him because he was cheap. 🙄 Years later, I found out my dad thought he was "odd." My parents were teens when they had me and had no idea how to raise us. They divorced during this time and my Dad would get us every other weekend. My mom would always leave me alone when I was 6 and 7 or have this guy watch us. I've blocked a lot of memories from this time, and I can't remember what happened. My mom got with my stepdad when I was 8, and she became a stay-at-home mom for the rest of my childhood. My stepdad was (still is) an awesome dad growing up. But I do remember being sexually inappropriate when I was 8 and 9 and had a lot of behaviors that suggested sexual abuse. My mother didn't see them or wanted to ignore them.
Who'd let their child be babysat by a male babysitter? I know there are female abusers, and I know not all male babysitters are abusers. I'm curious.
.. she was spot on from beginning to end. the interview was amazing and beyond insight although i felt a lot of the answers were rehearsed. i also feel he has the inclination to reoffend again but probably won’t more than likely because he’s getting his needs met inside the home with his own children. 👀 he might not be actually touching them, but there’s other ways.
yes I 100 agree. I believe he had been abusing his own children the whole time in front of his wife.
and now that hes under watch, he is keeping it back in the home once again. 6 kids all in their target age range..
he was beyond pleased with himself and thought it was a big joke
I suspect more than 2 victims, especially since he said, "many victims." @@pinkpugginz
Thank you.
Voice of reason 👏
I can't help wondering if there's some degree of HFA (high functioning Asperger's) at play here. The mechanical way in which Gershon presents... the disconnect from the other's experience...is soo similar to behaviors of addicts that I've met who finally received an official diagnosis. There's no doubt that the behavior is soul killing and traumatizing to the victims and the community needs to develop greater awareness while these people are kept far away from their potential victims. At the same time, identifying and getting to the root of the issues while these men are still boys might prevent some of the destruction.
I am not sympathizing with Gershon but I do feel like her opinions were biased. The man does not need to keep being vilanized and made an example of. He is not the only predator in the world. They walk amongst us daily. Using his coming out publicly and owning his behavior should not be an open season on him. It should be a learning experience for everyone on either sides of it. Victims and predators and parents. It should be a way to have open discussions about the topic ( not him)! As a mother I’m more afraid of those who aren’t on the registry and whom we don’t know about.
She is soooo right !
Thank you for this vid. Edit: For the documentary.
I think he made it very clear in his interview that it's not something that can ever be fully cured and therefore his is taking caution not to be near or involved any thing with kids and he acknowledged all of it so what else did you want him to say?
I think it's not just about what he says, but how he says it. I agree with both professionals that he didn't look like he truly believed what he did was wrong. He understood intellectually but not really. Also, the victim blaming is a good sign that he is not cured, he's putting the responsibility on the kids to say no to break his fantasy he created. He also talks like his crimes were not as bad as other crimes out there.. the fact that he insinuates that his abuse was not that bad, not that many victims... shows he's still giving himself excuses and has a lot of self compassion. Maybe a little too much
hes around kids all day every day at home
Scary!@@pinkpugginz
If he would say and cry how sorry he is then many will say he is trying to gain sympathy, he just answered whatever mendy asked him, and in my opinion putting yourself out in such a way in our community shows how sorry he is, he gains nothing from this because he clearly says he still has this struggle and is not safe which will probably make him unwanted in much more places now.
He gave way too many excuses and justifications, all of which defy common sense and basic human reasoning. eg. as mentioned in this vid, he claimed not enough sex with his wife made him molest kids, which is clearly complete nonsense. Or that a small child "didnt object" or "was sleeping so no harm", or "no penetration" but "other bad people are way worse" , or that his trigger is "not being satisfied in every regard with his life???" (have you heard worse excuses? these are some seriously pathetic ones) clearly the guy isnt completely there in the head and is somehow wanting to convey he was a relatively "good" offender, who is a victim of all these excuses .
Yes him coming on camera was informative to us, information is power and can be used to protect our children, but he also tried playing a victim card for whatever reason as well (maybe to garner some sympathy since he is likely a pariah). Someone should tell him that being an outcast is actually a good thing since it can add some additional deterrence to other potential offenders.
@@PJump2bh he never said it was an excuse or a justification, he was explaining some of the triggers, one of them being sexual frustration (twd his wife). It's complete BS to pretend that bad actors cannot be triggered by good people and one of the therapists actually said that pent up sexual frustration causes predators to act out. Let's not confuse a "reason" with a "justification". Have an easy fast!
@@hendystein367 Are you joking, sexual frustration does not equal sexually molesting innocent children. Its a pathetic excuse that simply does not compute for normal humans. These reasons are not real reasons, the guy was hell bent on molesting innocent, defenseless children one way or another, and these made up reasons and triggers played no part in it.
@@PJump He is exploring the factors that made him vulnerable to giving in to his desire. It doesn't have to equal anything to anyone else or make sense to anyone else. This was his experience and understanding. He could have just as easily ended up offending due to other factors at another time. The sexual frustration isn't an excuse or a reason. It's just a piece, among many, of a puzzle, the main one being that he was likely born a pedophile. Perhaps it would have been slightly easier for him to resist temptation for some time with certain things in place at certain times.
@@KAZAM707 His wife for example could never have satisfied his sexual cravings the same way she couldn't if he was gay, he craved sexual encounters with children, thats what he desired full stop. Therefore all his excuses are just nonsensical and show he is not willing to accept that he and he alone is the problem.
I think you would never be satisfied with whateter he said
Now we need a hashkafah response
You're having an agenda before you respond, so this interview is irrelevant, even you have good points
It's not irrelevant. You can disregard her opinion on Gershon. But she gives a lot of tools for parents. She also has a lot of experience with this issue, so her opinion is a great input. This interview is very relevant.
Why would any loving mother stay with a man who has abused one ( and maybe more) of their children. I would pick my kids up and run.
@@batyaruddell9201the dumb religious aspect
@@pinkpugginzSigh...