Meshtastic: Build Your Own Private Off-Grid Network!

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 163

  • @zerofox3d
    @zerofox3d 2 месяца назад +134

    Welcome to the party! I designed a case for my own Meshtastic node in February, it went a bit viral and I had to start a business… 6 months later I’ve shipped over 2500 cases worldwide. It’s been wild and humbling!

    • @MortenEghj
      @MortenEghj 2 месяца назад +5

      Do you have an link ?

    • @Poorehouse
      @Poorehouse 2 месяца назад

      @@MortenEghjgoogle his RUclips name. Comes right up. I have several from him. Quality 3D printed stuff.

    • @inerlogic
      @inerlogic 2 месяца назад

      Awesome t-shirt

    • @zerofox3d
      @zerofox3d 2 месяца назад

      @@MortenEghj Best just Google me 😃

    • @jamesbrady9105
      @jamesbrady9105 2 месяца назад +1

      whats the link

  • @traviswhitten792
    @traviswhitten792 Месяц назад +21

    I see this being very useful for putting these with Solar Panels in remote places in National Forests/Hiking trails.

  • @olafschermann1592
    @olafschermann1592 Месяц назад +6

    Pro tip changing battery connector:
    Don‘t cut both wires in one go, scissors short the battery and you either create sparks, kill the longlivity of your battery or in worst case make fire. Cut one pole, solder in the same pole fpr the new adapter, heatshrink it - and THEN cut the other pole. Alternative cut the 2 poles at slightly different locations that you not create a short if insulation fails at a later time. Solder joints can have sharp pints, especially if you don‘t solder at a regular basis which cuts thru the insulation.

  • @deathmetalpopart
    @deathmetalpopart Месяц назад +16

    Not gonna lie, I thought about setting up hundreds of these to be self-contained throughout phoenix to have my own private network across the city. I don't have the funds to do this, unfortunately, but it's a potential use case

    • @jacobhargiss3839
      @jacobhargiss3839 Месяц назад +2

      I'd be lying if I said I didnt have the exact same idea in my town.

    • @benjaminrivera117
      @benjaminrivera117 Месяц назад

      Not me in phx thinking the same thing 🤣

    • @jd2161
      @jd2161 27 дней назад

      My first thought is, what are you hiding to go to such lengths.
      What's in your basement?

    • @John-qu1vr
      @John-qu1vr 24 дня назад

      ​@@jd2161freedom

    • @Kingdeathtrooper
      @Kingdeathtrooper 13 дней назад

      @jd2161 If you lock your doors, you should cover your windows.

  • @webluke
    @webluke 2 месяца назад +74

    It's funny that my friend, with whom I was installing a new Unifi network at his business, was talking about using something like Meshtastic for communications between him and his friends when they were doing winter sports. I got a bunch of Meshtastic gear a year ago and played with it for a month, then got bored because I was the only one to communicate with. Now my friend is 40 miles away, so that won't work unless we strung a bunch of solar-powered repeaters through the desert of Western Colorado.

    • @CrosstalkSolutions
      @CrosstalkSolutions  2 месяца назад +16

      Sounds like a great project!

    • @jbm206
      @jbm206 2 месяца назад +2

      What are the typical range these can expect?

    • @simcopter1821
      @simcopter1821 2 месяца назад +9

      @@jbm206 Depends on line of sight, if you can get a node on a tall tower or mountain your range will be very far. Current record is 158 miles.

    • @LocSec
      @LocSec 2 месяца назад +2

      I mean, it sounds like a fun project 😄

    • @shadmansudipto7287
      @shadmansudipto7287 2 месяца назад +2

      @@jbm206 he didn't answer your question lol. Typical range is 10 kilometers/6.2 miles. The 433 mhz might be better, only if that frequency is legal to use in your country.

  • @orangebudha
    @orangebudha 2 месяца назад +19

    I’m able to send messages to San Diego, from Los Angeles, many nodes in between, community is growing

    • @bonbooty6611
      @bonbooty6611 Месяц назад

      So other person also has to be using meshtastic to receive the message?

  • @support2587
    @support2587 2 месяца назад +9

    Been cruising around NV, AZ and NM with one in my pack back with a larger antenna. Collected over 250 nodes, most in Albuquerque.

  • @simcopter1821
    @simcopter1821 2 месяца назад +3

    Heck yeah! Glad to see you covering this project.

  • @olafschermann1592
    @olafschermann1592 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you for mentioning meshtastic. Didn‘t know that.

  • @GrannyDryden
    @GrannyDryden 2 месяца назад +14

    Interesting video, thought i'm still clueless on what it is/does and its use case/application. Seems a bit too niche to me.

    • @Barry_McKockiner
      @Barry_McKockiner 2 месяца назад +1

      Ditto, like can I use it to make a city wide private WiFi network?

    • @infered5365
      @infered5365 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Barry_McKockiner No, the data throughput is far too low for that. It can do GPS tracking, hooks into civtak, and can send messages, and that's about it. It can be a lifesafer for search-and-rescue in disaster areas though, or emergency text comms in a widespread power outage.

    • @jacobhargiss3839
      @jacobhargiss3839 Месяц назад +1

      Most iot devices are niche. If they werent, they'd be integrated into comercial user end products.

    • @jacobhargiss3839
      @jacobhargiss3839 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@Barry_McKockiner yes, but you would need alot of them. And it would be alot slower than a typical lte network.

    • @johntack1049
      @johntack1049 Месяц назад +3

      Two people, each with a cell phone and mesh device, can be separated geographically and be able to text each other completely off grid. That’s the most common use of this.

  • @mitchellcrazyeye
    @mitchellcrazyeye 2 месяца назад +2

    This reminds of Beartooth - a device with basic text messaging for outdoor, away from cell coverage areas. I'm not sure what happened to them, but this looks very promising! I'll have to pickup a few kits and play around.

    • @jtkiller911
      @jtkiller911 2 месяца назад +1

      Basically identical To Beartooth But Way Cheaper

  • @patto647
    @patto647 2 месяца назад +2

    Hahah I’m currently setting up a network here in South Sydney. Only real negative I’ve come across is just waiting for gear to turn up from AliExpress, but that’s standard for Ali lol

  • @chuckles1808
    @chuckles1808 Месяц назад +1

    Man, when I was working out in the sticks we didn't have any wireless monitoring of our equipment, we had Walky-talkies and we'd walk or ride out and call in if things needed refills. This would've been great cause we were pushing the limits of those little radios.

  • @mikeonthebox
    @mikeonthebox Месяц назад +2

    It's crazy that the case is more expensive than the components themselves.

  • @Kush-fw4fr
    @Kush-fw4fr 2 месяца назад +1

    nice ive been looking to get into meshtastic . hopefully i will do it soon

  • @andresmonteverde
    @andresmonteverde 2 месяца назад +1

    good work pals, very clear and well produced

  • @isainovski
    @isainovski 2 месяца назад +2

    How about combining it with the Flipper zero

  • @norgeek
    @norgeek 2 месяца назад +2

    The "Meshtastic Network Repeaters" map at 00:47 is.. curious. Would not the wireless coverage area of each device have to reach the center of the adjoining circle, where the transmitter of that circle is located, for that transmitter to be within the wireless coverage area of the adjoining unit? As presented it'd work fine if they were all connected using a cable or using a secondary, larger-coverage network, but if it's supposed to show their wireless operational range it won't work as shown..

    • @moneybilla
      @moneybilla Месяц назад

      hmm didnt think bout that before, but yea sounds like thatd be a prob

    • @jacobhargiss3839
      @jacobhargiss3839 Месяц назад +4

      Yeah. That map is just an exagerated sketch to get the point across.

  • @DocAraxa
    @DocAraxa 2 дня назад

    It would be perfect if we could use it in great catastrophes! But the range is a limit, and will allways be!

  • @justanothercomment416
    @justanothercomment416 2 месяца назад +1

    I'd be interested to hear how one goes about placing solar nodes within the community?

    • @Kingdeathtrooper
      @Kingdeathtrooper 13 дней назад +1

      @justanothercomment416 Convince nearby business/homeowners?

  • @meisievannancy
    @meisievannancy 2 месяца назад +5

    South African farmers would be grateful for such a network. They have been murdered by what appears to be state sponsored cell phone jammers and have had to set up radio networks but not so easy to get to the radio when the criminals are holding some parts of the family hostage while others could still communicate to neighboring farms.

  • @techknowbabble
    @techknowbabble 2 месяца назад +4

    Will this ever support a walkies talkie like feature or is voice not possible with this technology?

    • @jtkiller911
      @jtkiller911 2 месяца назад +3

      The Bandwith At This Frequency Is Just Too Low To Handle Voice Packets

    • @VolkanTurgut-w8t
      @VolkanTurgut-w8t Месяц назад

      If we are able to further compress voice packages in the future why not?

  • @lifefromscratch2818
    @lifefromscratch2818 2 месяца назад +7

    I've been a ham for years and I didn't expect meshtastic on this channel. haha

    • @michaeljohnson9760
      @michaeljohnson9760 2 месяца назад +2

      I bet if you've done this, you've probably flashed a linksys or two, huh? Original wifi mesh network

  • @Biokemist-o3k
    @Biokemist-o3k 2 месяца назад

    This is fantastic!!!! Thank you so much for sharing your build and the information. If I had a nickel for every time that I forgot to put on a shrink wrap......O would have at least 25 cents. For some reason my girlfriend is looking at me with a side eye and shaking her head...lol

  • @gingerman5123
    @gingerman5123 2 месяца назад +5

    Remember, kids. Always keep your nodes set to "client"!!

    • @turbo2ltr
      @turbo2ltr 2 месяца назад +1

      This! (or client_mute). My roof node is set to client. My T-Deck is Client_Mute.

    • @raiden72
      @raiden72 Месяц назад

      Can you help explain why we should keep it set at client? What's wrong with being a server or a repeater?

    • @turbo2ltr
      @turbo2ltr Месяц назад

      @@raiden72 Router nodes retransmitt faster than clients. If you set your home node to router, you could be "stealing" packets that would be better served being retransmitted from a node with more coverage using up hops for people's messages that ddin't have to. Router nodes should be reserved for nodes in optimum locations with large coverage area like mountain tops.

    • @gingerman5123
      @gingerman5123 Месяц назад

      @@raiden72 Using ROUTER or REPEATER roles unnecessarily can cause serious network issues: Increased risk of packet collision. Reduced message delivery rates. Decreased effective network range due to unnecessary hop consumption.

  • @zachchamp93
    @zachchamp93 2 месяца назад +1

    This could be a new form of social-media if they upgrade the app to include more features

  • @stevebabiak6997
    @stevebabiak6997 2 месяца назад +1

    With that clear plastic waterproof case, do you really have to install the antenna outside of the box?
    Thinking inside the box here ;)

    • @simcopter1821
      @simcopter1821 2 месяца назад

      It is not strictly necessary but it would greatly increase the effectiveness of the antenna.

    • @stevebabiak6997
      @stevebabiak6997 2 месяца назад

      @@simcopter1821 - Thanks. I see cellphone antennas are now within the device, whereas really old cellphones had those pullout or external antennas. So it just seems like if metallic things aren’t interfering then the antenna could be attached within that enclosure. That would allow for it to have no external penetrations if the recharging is also done by opening the lid, and thus be really watertight.

    • @BrentShermanusmc
      @BrentShermanusmc Месяц назад

      @@stevebabiak6997the reason why is because cell coverage has gotten exponentially better so your phone doesn’t require a super efficient antenna anymore

  • @ChanseArrington
    @ChanseArrington 2 месяца назад +1

    So.... this won't actually make a wireless intenet / wifi networking mesh? It's a mesh that can be used for messaging / data messages (mqtt)? Is there a project like this for Mesh Wifi?

    • @Daniel-hd7gq
      @Daniel-hd7gq 2 месяца назад +1

      For meshing WiFi you can use normal access points 🤔 the catch with meshtastic is LoRa and it's extreme range.

  • @garypaulson5202
    @garypaulson5202 2 месяца назад

    Very informative!

  • @SetitesTechAdventures
    @SetitesTechAdventures 2 месяца назад

    Can this be used for IoT? I keep reading that its illegal to use for that purpose because you arent allowed to maintain connections over the frequency it uses. Are you getting around thst bh having a slow polling rate?

  • @nkoskinen
    @nkoskinen 2 месяца назад +1

    Dude, I need that shirt.

  • @OnnieKoski
    @OnnieKoski Месяц назад +2

    My main issue with this is getting people online after SHTF. If you need to have the app already loaded on your phone, then you’re kind of SOL.

    • @MitchOfCanada
      @MitchOfCanada Месяц назад +2

      this comes down to elect officials doing their job and having the contingencies in place.
      Off-grid Drive for members that have device with apps loaded, 2 way radios, food Rations MREs etc.
      If you live in a hurricane zone or somewhere remote you should have an ANDROID as you can sideload apps via a USB cable.
      when SHTF there is going to always be those who are never prepared, will use others resources and need rescuing. its part of north americas culture.

    • @schizophrenicgaming365
      @schizophrenicgaming365 Месяц назад +1

      I can install apps from a flash drive, nearby share, etc. because I don't use an apple leap frog phone

    • @blackhawk65589
      @blackhawk65589 23 дня назад +1

      You can share apps offline. Another way would be saving the apk file on a PC or several usb sticks (maybe this would bring back life to the usb dead drops) or even CDs. You could also share through wlan (wireless dead drops?)

  • @offroadsnake
    @offroadsnake Месяц назад

    I heard that some devices can reach over 500 km i'm interested how build them

  • @bigchew3149
    @bigchew3149 2 месяца назад +3

    This looks & Sounds Like a ton of Fun For City Dwellers But Sadly Out Here in Very Rural Mountains of Eastern Ky Just not possible !

  • @sprint955st
    @sprint955st 2 месяца назад +7

    This has been extremely popular in the U.K. but has withered, it’s just not very good after all. Too many nodes in populated areas; sparse in the countryside and no links between

    • @Alan.livingston
      @Alan.livingston Месяц назад +1

      Sounds like most enthusiast driven community wifi projects.

    • @sprint955st
      @sprint955st Месяц назад +1

      @@Alan.livingston you’re absolutely spot on there.

    • @Nonovyour
      @Nonovyour Месяц назад

      Shame. I am in rural Norfolk, thinking of buying a few and dotting them around. I can do Sheringham aylsham and easton.

  • @Numenor7
    @Numenor7 2 месяца назад +1

    Can be this used as a walkie talkie like on the ski hill?

    • @jtkiller911
      @jtkiller911 2 месяца назад +5

      Yes But Will Only Give Text And GPS. No Voice With This Tech

  • @Omniverse0
    @Omniverse0 2 месяца назад

    I can't believe you talked me into the validity of this product...

  • @SunilK.Aggarwal-rp6hl
    @SunilK.Aggarwal-rp6hl 2 дня назад

    Ordering buying link

  • @SEDARTA_RECORDS
    @SEDARTA_RECORDS 2 месяца назад

    I like the idea of satellite network coverage as satellites are 100% off grid. Cell towers, not so.

  • @MartinHiggs84
    @MartinHiggs84 2 месяца назад +1

    This is interesting. I'm a Radio Amateur is similar to APRS can send positions, short messages, have digipeters and gateways to Internet.

  • @Nickc86
    @Nickc86 Месяц назад

    Congratulations it's a fancy walkie talkie

  • @malikmuhammadhamzahayyat5714
    @malikmuhammadhamzahayyat5714 Месяц назад

    I want to buy these devices from u

  • @4_Science
    @4_Science 2 месяца назад +2

    My plea to newbies: please don't ping over and over from a plane saying "lol I'm on a plane!" Yes it's cool that people on the ground can hear you but it's a 1 way conversation all about you and it pollutes the local channels

    • @raiden72
      @raiden72 Месяц назад

      How does one single message pollute all the channels? What do you mean by that? I thought that you are only sending a message on one channel at a time.

  • @mochouinard
    @mochouinard Месяц назад

    It still too expensive. I can buy a Wifi 360 PTZ camera with battery and solar panel for 50$ Canadian ! How much does a solar/battery/waterproof repeater cost ? If it was cheap enough, I would buy a few and install them on public electric pole and try to make a super huge mesh network everyone could use ! But no one making them cheap enough yet sadly.

  • @chrisumali9841
    @chrisumali9841 2 месяца назад

    awesome

  • @goodcitizen4587
    @goodcitizen4587 2 месяца назад

    Really interesting! I really wish someone would manufacture some versions of these xmitters.

  • @mikemcdonald5147
    @mikemcdonald5147 Месяц назад

    im just not that geeky or cool or smart anymore. This would be frustrating trying to get all the parts and making them work together. Do they sell completed devices for idiots like myself who just want it to work?>

    • @aaronpropes9134
      @aaronpropes9134 Месяц назад

      Yes. Lillygo has an all-in-one that doesn't need a tethered device to send messages (T Deck Plus) and people on etsy are selling fully assembled units.

  • @dubas1974
    @dubas1974 2 месяца назад

    No parts list??????? :\

    • @MitchOfCanada
      @MitchOfCanada 2 месяца назад +1

      WisBlock Meshtastic Starter Kit
      $30 no battery.
      add Gps,
      around $60.

  • @FinbarMonroe2
    @FinbarMonroe2 27 дней назад

    Looks like I know what I’m buying…

  • @robb1267
    @robb1267 2 месяца назад

    It's twu, it's twu! That's a great shirt!

  • @dindayalsingh2613
    @dindayalsingh2613 Месяц назад

    Can it lower ping in games

  • @mikemcdonald5147
    @mikemcdonald5147 Месяц назад +1

    the FCC wants to take back the 900 MHz band so might want to be careful using these devices as they won't be legal when the FCC reallocates the 900mhz band to something else.

  • @TheNodeChannel
    @TheNodeChannel 2 месяца назад +2

    *Another great use case is on a cruise ship*

    • @luckyday_5510
      @luckyday_5510 2 месяца назад

      No, they don’t connect to phones. Also cruise ships already have cellular and Wi-Fi.

    • @TheNodeChannel
      @TheNodeChannel 2 месяца назад +1

      @@luckyday_5510 You can do communication over Bluetooth to other meshtastic users nearby. Also cruise ship wifi and cellular can be expensive if all you're looking for is to text family.

  • @muntee33
    @muntee33 25 дней назад

    900mHz? Awfully close to the bandwidth used for household electrical smart meters....

  • @BombadilBeardie
    @BombadilBeardie Месяц назад

    101% battery

  • @enesalkan9185
    @enesalkan9185 29 дней назад

    bro i tought you wanna sel that to me for a sec

  • @delroyl427
    @delroyl427 2 месяца назад

    You need ham license so that you can running a high power node on 443.750

    • @turbo2ltr
      @turbo2ltr 2 месяца назад +2

      But then you can't use encryption.

    • @Kingdeathtrooper
      @Kingdeathtrooper 13 дней назад

      For some, liscensing defeats the purpose. That's like asking parent's permission to "sneak out"

  • @AdamMuhle
    @AdamMuhle 2 месяца назад

    While this 'could' have some farm applications, unfortunately the intersection of farmers and programmers is very small.
    Also, a lot the data you might want to gather is stuck behind closed systems (John Deere, for example, is well known for insisting everything is proprietary and farmers must pay license fees to use it)
    Lastly, the range would have to be a LOT better than a few blocks to be practical. My parents are small farmers and even their fields span an area of about 5 miles by 2 miles. As is common, their land isn't contiguous, so even if you were willing to pop up a bunch of nodes, many would have to put some on land you don't own to fill in the gaps.

    • @mistermarkdavis
      @mistermarkdavis 2 месяца назад +2

      I was driving around connecting to meshtastic nodes and discovered on in a rural area with no cell coverage. The nodes were in a nursary. THey had a solar powered node in the field with a weather station and a node in the office connected to MQTT. I couldn't figure out what MQTT channel they were on.
      THis is a round about way of saying that this application is very much real world.

    • @AdamMuhle
      @AdamMuhle 2 месяца назад +1

      @@mistermarkdavis neat!

    • @turbo2ltr
      @turbo2ltr 2 месяца назад +1

      in the US, it's 900 mhz so range is impacted by terrain and structures. Performance in urban areas will suffer. Over the weekend I was able to hit my roof node from a mountain top from 182 miles away. On a farm over open fields you'll get way more than a few blocks.

    • @mivrame
      @mivrame 2 месяца назад

      Pretty impressive ​@@turbo2ltr! What antenna are you using?

    • @turbo2ltr
      @turbo2ltr 2 месяца назад +1

      @@mivrame a 5.8dbi 16" antenna on the roof, and a stubby 3" on the T-Deck. My house is about 3600ft, the mountain top was 7600 ft. Though running a link study, this connection should be pretty much impossible so not sure what's going on there. I did hear another node on another mountain top that the link study says is line of sight which was 110 miles. That I can believe. I suspect the other mountain had a similar antenna to the one on my roof, maybe even an 8dbi.

  • @keithhimstedt6870
    @keithhimstedt6870 2 месяца назад

    So would this work to attach wyze cameras on 40 acres where I can't extend my wifi?
    Or is this just for text msging

    • @sprint955st
      @sprint955st 2 месяца назад +2

      Not even slightly. It barely works at all. Ask me how I know.

    • @mrphyslaw
      @mrphyslaw 2 месяца назад +2

      No, the bandwidth is very very low

  • @mattbiek
    @mattbiek 2 месяца назад

    Banana Comment

  • @RoboArc
    @RoboArc Месяц назад +3

    It's hackable, no secure, definitely tracksble, I'm not a fan of it frfr.
    It needs end to end encryption and open source is cool, but I need more features for it to be 100% reliable as good communication network for things.
    Tldr: it's not proven tech, it's high-tech enough to get you in trouble. Think hamas or a war zone area, you're broadcasting to much data openly.

  • @AndrewHarding-k4h
    @AndrewHarding-k4h 24 дня назад

    Nos can drone

  • @rocky7gd
    @rocky7gd 2 месяца назад

    Banana

  • @PapaSharmaJi
    @PapaSharmaJi 2 месяца назад

    I am here.

  • @sNEAKYnIGHTmUPPET
    @sNEAKYnIGHTmUPPET 2 месяца назад

    hey yo!

  • @bloodbath576
    @bloodbath576 3 дня назад

    Who here bc ww3✋️✋️

  • @acegear
    @acegear Месяц назад

    would be awesome meshtastic can be used as low /slow data insternet relay for simple communication send recieve email or instant messenger to a relay with active internet connection / server

  • @a.g8517
    @a.g8517 2 месяца назад

    soo...its $75 boxes WiFi Halow from aliexpress )))

    • @newellslab
      @newellslab 2 месяца назад

      Wonder how powerful this unit is compared to those

    • @simcopter1821
      @simcopter1821 2 месяца назад

      Meshtastic radios tend to use far less power and is a different protocol. Range is much higher and bandwidth is much lower.

  • @dnzrobotics
    @dnzrobotics 2 месяца назад

    👍👍👍

  • @Dextermorga
    @Dextermorga 2 месяца назад +2

    It’s just glorified Lora. I have been using it for like 10years with arduino 🙄

    • @sprint955st
      @sprint955st 2 месяца назад +4

      @@Dextermorga why haven’t you made a YT and shared the goodness then?

  • @Alice8000
    @Alice8000 2 месяца назад

    i called the FTC and police for your area. You will be stopped peeping tom.

    • @raiden72
      @raiden72 Месяц назад

      What does your comment even mean?

    • @Kingdeathtrooper
      @Kingdeathtrooper 13 дней назад

      Yeah, the only peeping toms we like are our goverment and corporations!

  • @MrDoldora
    @MrDoldora 2 месяца назад

    Too much tinkering with antennas, case, battery. At best you can reach 1 mile in the city. And you get what? A text message. From whom? A stranger.😂