For anyone curious, an NDA means literally nothing if there's illegal stuff going on. If Paul were to sue the zoo or just plainly contact the police and inform them of what's going on any NDA would be thrown in the trash. You can't just make someone sign a piece of paper and then expect it to be legal to kill people or put them in insane risk. Same thing goes for any sort of waivers
Unfortunately, I think it's happened before where NDA's and similar have been waved at someone to get them to keep their mouth shut and it working due to the poor fool not knowing that such documents do not apply when used to protect criminal activity.
If you actually played the game yourself you would know the doc states during multiple endings and a few play threws he has many “friends” around the world and in the government/policeforce. Hence when lily calls the police nothing happens.
I worked at a zoo once, so when Paul gave the block of animal-grade meat to his wife, I thought that was prolly the scariest bit of the game lawl. I watched the zookeepers butcher meat for the predators and sometimes the sources are roadkill, or from stables. Like old racing horses are sometimes used, but the zookeepers didn’t like them as they usually have had a ton of meds and steroids for racing and it’s bad for the zoo animals to eat their meat. Same problem would be for humans. The alternate is specially formulated protein logs some zoos have for specialised predators, which also aren’t suitable for humans.
Same. Although I never worked at a zoo, I was still appaled by how many let's-players chose to steal the meat slab. I mean, come on! *Best* case scenario, you're giving your wife and daughter an equivalent of canned dog food!
@@roland228 I struggle to imagine how desperate one would have to be to willingly ingest (pretty much) poison to satisfy their hunger... Unless Paul's family was already eating out of dumpsters by that point, which likely wasn't the case.
fun fact! the poster ad for the zoo says the salary is $100k a year. there are about 52.14 weeks in a year but i'm just going to say 52 for easy maths. 52 x 5(assuming it's a weekday only job) amounts to 260 days. $100k divided by 260 is $384.61~ a night. average night shift is from 11pm to 7am so 8 hours. $384.61 divided by 8 is $48.07, meaning Paul is earning 6x the federal minimum wage in the US,
Everyone's talking about how scary the mutant animals are, but when i played it, there was a brief moment where you'd throw a LIVE WOMAN into a MEAT GRINDER to serve as food for the animals, When Paul calls his boss about this, he has a "Oh no! Anyway" attitude, showing how screwed up his boss might be.
Seriously his boss didn't even try to sell it like she was some god awful person or somethin' to trick Paul. At that point I'd of sabotaged most of the zoo.
Paul and TerrifyTee: why would a zoo need scientists?? Me: um…. do they not know about zoologists? 😅 that and that monitoring their health with collecting blood samples and feces seem pretty legit to me. Though I do think there were a lot of clear signs that things were off, they may be focusing on the wrong questions here
@@AO1666- caseoh just casually got it ruclips.net/video/IGImZoPRkUU/видео.html . basically steal meat and give it to her in the beginning. then when you go downstairs with the reporter you will see his phone on the table. he will then call his wife to not eat the meat and stay put.
The zoo having scientists is not weird Whats weird is that they are referring to them as generic scientists instead of vet techs or dietitians or something similar
The part of the hopeful monsters doesn't sit right with me. How does a mutated animal produce offspring, when its general habit is to literally kill the rest of their species?
It's not crazy to think genetic difference makes a pheromone difference, after all humans are attracted to pheromones of other humans who specifically compliment their own immune system. Thats a very small genetic difference that changes pheromones, pheromones could Cause them to have very different feelings toward normal and mutated animals.
More than likely they were tranq'ing them and extracting DNA from the mutated hosts. It seems unlikely they were intending for the mutant animal to mate in any capacity, whether it was with normal or other mutated animals.
I like the fact u used an Egyptian photo for talking about the possibility of gods being involved. Anyone who’s read KC (Kane Chronicles) knows gods tend to take hosts. Which could explain things
Hey y’all sorry for the long paragraph I needed to say this somewhere. The whole “congruent chemistry”thing does not sit right with me at all as a proper explanation. Congruent chemistry is talking about phase changes. Water can go from a solid to a liquid to a gas without changing its molecular structure. It is incredibly hard for organic molecules to do this. It is even harder for living cells to do this. I feel like the whole explanation for the mother being older could have been easily explained by her appearing in multiple parts of the ice. Her regrowth of limbs can also just be because of axolotl genes or genes from another limb regenerating animal. Overall cool game idea though. Edit: after watching more there is a much easier way to infect someone with a liquid. It’s just typical liquid cell culturing. If the mother is a hive mind then she can produce an infector out of any of her cells. This means once the cells have space they can use their environment to make a new parasite. Again, there is no need for the congruent chemistry bit. And one more bit about the animals reverting. If it goes by the rules of the game then it would be impossible. Genetic editing is impossible to really change after it’s done. (See HIV nuclear radiation etc.) However, if the parasite is instead just inserting its DNA to be amplified then it is more plausible for the creature to revert back to its original state. (The actual likelihood of reverting is much more fantasy than I would like to ruin lol)
I'm still wondering why Oliver injected Paul a parasite, even though he's going to use Paul as food for the mother. Even though we know what a mutated human looks like in the game.
I think I know why it’s because he already knew the infected animals wouldn’t attacked another infected host so he injected him with the parasite so he wouldn’t be killed by the infected animals and if he was killed by the infected animals, mother wouldn’t like it because it says mother only eats what she kills 🎉
Yes because when you create a game and publish it promising things that aren't actually in the game is misleading and the deserve the valid criticism and hate that they're getting. We cannot pamper developers who deliberately release a buggy and uncomplete game.
Can someone please tell me why this game is getting hated on so much? I’ll admit it’s not the best, but to see it be hated so vehemently by literally everyone is pretty shocking.
I think it's because the trailers and everything made it seem better, but then suddenly everything was rushed and screwed when one of the lead devs and story writers died halfway through the making
Yeah, things from the trailer weren't in the base game that being said, the base game itself, even without the context of the marketing, still isn't good
@@wowiwannadie4646 i think the game was fine on what it provided. you could tell where the ending was coming fast but it was by no means so bad to warrant so many bad reviews. for what the game is, it was really good. I am more surprised it actually had good voice acting.
It's an interesting idea, but the game being so god awful kind of brings it all down in the end. Your character is too dumb to even connect 2 dots most a the time.
I have no clue what you mean, the game wasn’t even that bad. The story sucked a little bit but that’s caused by the writer having died early on. And if you mean anything via bugs. The bugs are NOT that bad, I think people blow it out of proportions, especially since these people made a pretty good game for their very first time and having not made many games.
A penguin that can fly is no longer a penguin. This is very stupid! Animals have evolved to be the most fit for their specific niche. Adding or changing traits will not make them "better" by default.
The whole “congruent chemistry”thing does not sit right with me at all as a proper explanation. Congruent chemistry is talking about phase changes. Water can go from a solid to a liquid to a gas without changing its molecular structure. It is incredibly hard for organic molecules to do this. It is even harder for living cells to do this. I feel like the whole explanation for the mother being older could have been easily explained by her appearing in multiple parts of the ice. Her regrowth of limbs can also just be because of axolotl genes or genes from another limb regenerating animal. Overall cool game idea though.
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For anyone curious, an NDA means literally nothing if there's illegal stuff going on. If Paul were to sue the zoo or just plainly contact the police and inform them of what's going on any NDA would be thrown in the trash. You can't just make someone sign a piece of paper and then expect it to be legal to kill people or put them in insane risk. Same thing goes for any sort of waivers
Nah fr bro a lot of horror games have those kind of plot holes and it just makes everything look like nobody has common sense
Didn’t sop Disney from trying it.
Yeah except the police where being bribed
Unfortunately, I think it's happened before where NDA's and similar have been waved at someone to get them to keep their mouth shut and it working due to the poor fool not knowing that such documents do not apply when used to protect criminal activity.
If you actually played the game yourself you would know the doc states during multiple endings and a few play threws he has many “friends” around the world and in the government/policeforce. Hence when lily calls the police nothing happens.
I worked at a zoo once, so when Paul gave the block of animal-grade meat to his wife, I thought that was prolly the scariest bit of the game lawl. I watched the zookeepers butcher meat for the predators and sometimes the sources are roadkill, or from stables. Like old racing horses are sometimes used, but the zookeepers didn’t like them as they usually have had a ton of meds and steroids for racing and it’s bad for the zoo animals to eat their meat. Same problem would be for humans.
The alternate is specially formulated protein logs some zoos have for specialised predators, which also aren’t suitable for humans.
Same. Although I never worked at a zoo, I was still appaled by how many let's-players chose to steal the meat slab. I mean, come on! *Best* case scenario, you're giving your wife and daughter an equivalent of canned dog food!
This comment is very informative. Your insight is appreciated.
@@jaczylijaaleniepowiemkto3243 And dog "food" is garbage.
@@jaczylijaaleniepowiemkto3243 The guy must be that desperate.
@@roland228 I struggle to imagine how desperate one would have to be to willingly ingest (pretty much) poison to satisfy their hunger... Unless Paul's family was already eating out of dumpsters by that point, which likely wasn't the case.
fun fact! the poster ad for the zoo says the salary is $100k a year. there are about 52.14 weeks in a year but i'm just going to say 52 for easy maths. 52 x 5(assuming it's a weekday only job) amounts to 260 days. $100k divided by 260 is $384.61~ a night. average night shift is from 11pm to 7am so 8 hours. $384.61 divided by 8 is $48.07, meaning Paul is earning 6x the federal minimum wage in the US,
$48 AN HOUR?? That's some hella payday jesus christ
also dont forget. this is 1991. 100K back then was way more than 100K today.
@@nesnalica $48 today would be $111.12 then... Holy shit
@@lokirae3 it was prolly very easy to get new people tp apply
Damn! I knew zookeepers get paid a lot, but that's crazy
Everyone's talking about how scary the mutant animals are, but when i played it, there was a brief moment where you'd throw a LIVE WOMAN into a MEAT GRINDER to serve as food for the animals, When Paul calls his boss about this, he has a "Oh no! Anyway" attitude, showing how screwed up his boss might be.
Seriously his boss didn't even try to sell it like she was some god awful person or somethin' to trick Paul. At that point I'd of sabotaged most of the zoo.
Paul and TerrifyTee: why would a zoo need scientists??
Me: um…. do they not know about zoologists? 😅 that and that monitoring their health with collecting blood samples and feces seem pretty legit to me. Though I do think there were a lot of clear signs that things were off, they may be focusing on the wrong questions here
Exactly, it was such a weird thing to focus on.
Zoologia is just study of animals, usually in their natural habitat. You can't learn much about animals if they are caged.
Especially if the zoo is also part of conservation efforts, why monitoring the health of endangered species they have at the zoo is key.
You can actually stop your wife from calling the police which will save her in the clean run achievement (save all innocent people and animals)
Really? How does that happen i hadn’t seen a single person do that yet in playthroughs
@@AO1666- caseoh just casually got it ruclips.net/video/IGImZoPRkUU/видео.html . basically steal meat and give it to her in the beginning. then when you go downstairs with the reporter you will see his phone on the table. he will then call his wife to not eat the meat and stay put.
@@nesnalica ofc caseoh got the ending that requires stealing food
@@landydot6296you have to steal food to progress the story
Captainsauce also got it without stealing the meat for his wife, and instead calling her later in the game. He used the meat to calm the mutant.
You can save the wife if you don’t ignore her at the start, and later make sure she dosen't call the police
The zoo having scientists is not weird
Whats weird is that they are referring to them as generic scientists instead of vet techs or dietitians or something similar
The part of the hopeful monsters doesn't sit right with me. How does a mutated animal produce offspring, when its general habit is to literally kill the rest of their species?
Ye it is really far fetched however in their defense maybe mutated animals can reproduce with another mutated ones
I think he means they will have babies with other mutanted animals
It's not crazy to think genetic difference makes a pheromone difference, after all humans are attracted to pheromones of other humans who specifically compliment their own immune system. Thats a very small genetic difference that changes pheromones, pheromones could Cause them to have very different feelings toward normal and mutated animals.
More than likely they were tranq'ing them and extracting DNA from the mutated hosts. It seems unlikely they were intending for the mutant animal to mate in any capacity, whether it was with normal or other mutated animals.
I can’t tell if it’s supposed to seem like nonsense in universe, but yeah. It’s nonsense.
So she wrecked two marriages. Dang. I hope the player got his wife rich first at least since they were struggling.
There seem to actually be 2 good endings, because I've seen multiple streamers play it and they save the player's wife
I like the fact u used an Egyptian photo for talking about the possibility of gods being involved.
Anyone who’s read KC (Kane Chronicles) knows gods tend to take hosts.
Which could explain things
duuude those books were awesome, I remember there being one where they did a crossover w the egyption and greek demigods/magicians
@@insert6190 I’m willing to bet those parasites came from some god host mating with a demon for whatever reason
Egypt was beautiful.., look at it now
Amazing horror game honesty. Superbly well done in its simple yet effective design and gameplay loop.
Just saying if something is frozen deep in ice it's there for a reason lmao😂
If you take too long to sign, you just get shot by the guy anyway.
I wonder if Dr. Metzger gets, his legal advice from the same lawfirm as William Afton.
Honestly these Parasitic Creatures are Creepy, Disgusting, and Disturbing as Hell and in my mind the True Happy Ending was Satisfying.
You can actually save your wife and all the animals.
Hey y’all sorry for the long paragraph I needed to say this somewhere.
The whole “congruent chemistry”thing does not sit right with me at all as a proper explanation. Congruent chemistry is talking about phase changes. Water can go from a solid to a liquid to a gas without changing its molecular structure. It is incredibly hard for organic molecules to do this. It is even harder for living cells to do this. I feel like the whole explanation for the mother being older could have been easily explained by her appearing in multiple parts of the ice. Her regrowth of limbs can also just be because of axolotl genes or genes from another limb regenerating animal. Overall cool game idea though. Edit: after watching more there is a much easier way to infect someone with a liquid. It’s just typical liquid cell culturing. If the mother is a hive mind then she can produce an infector out of any of her cells. This means once the cells have space they can use their environment to make a new parasite. Again, there is no need for the congruent chemistry bit. And one more bit about the animals reverting. If it goes by the rules of the game then it would be impossible. Genetic editing is impossible to really change after it’s done. (See HIV nuclear radiation etc.) However, if the parasite is instead just inserting its DNA to be amplified then it is more plausible for the creature to revert back to its original state. (The actual likelihood of reverting is much more fantasy than I would like to ruin lol)
I'm still wondering why Oliver injected Paul a parasite, even though he's going to use Paul as food for the mother. Even though we know what a mutated human looks like in the game.
Well, the way to kill Mother is with a female parasite. So, maybe, he injected Paul with a male parasite.
He may have wanted a second human experiment. It doesn’t make any sense though. He could have used Sarah or CJ as a Guinea pig instead of killing them
To keep him safe from the infecrion monsters as they wont attack their own
my take is. he used him as food because he "fucked up". if the guy just did his job then he could become the guy you know.
I think I know why it’s because he already knew the infected animals wouldn’t attacked another infected host so he injected him with the parasite so he wouldn’t be killed by the infected animals and if he was killed by the infected animals, mother wouldn’t like it because it says mother only eats what she kills 🎉
The funny thing about this is that the game can literally be updated and worked upon further, but everyone seems happy to just hate on it.
Yes because when you create a game and publish it promising things that aren't actually in the game is misleading and the deserve the valid criticism and hate that they're getting. We cannot pamper developers who deliberately release a buggy and uncomplete game.
Can someone please tell me why this game is getting hated on so much?
I’ll admit it’s not the best, but to see it be hated so vehemently by literally everyone is pretty shocking.
I think it's because the trailers and everything made it seem better, but then suddenly everything was rushed and screwed when one of the lead devs and story writers died halfway through the making
Yeah, things from the trailer weren't in the base game that being said, the base game itself, even without the context of the marketing, still isn't good
The lead scripted died
@@wowiwannadie4646 i think the game was fine on what it provided. you could tell where the ending was coming fast but it was by no means so bad to warrant so many bad reviews. for what the game is, it was really good. I am more surprised it actually had good voice acting.
@nesnalica I think the game was good, tbh I don't know about anyone else tho
All zoos have scientists? Also, ligit zoos don't usually hire those who are untrained and without a collage degree. That would be my first suspicion.
You don't have to ignore your wife in the beginning. If you talk to her you end up giving her some 'meat' for dinner before she leaves
How does having paper thin wings and skinny wing bones with holes in the wings help to e penguin fly??
It's an interesting idea, but the game being so god awful kind of brings it all down in the end. Your character is too dumb to even connect 2 dots most a the time.
I agree, it's a great concept that got executed badly
I have no clue what you mean, the game wasn’t even that bad. The story sucked a little bit but that’s caused by the writer having died early on.
And if you mean anything via bugs. The bugs are NOT that bad, I think people blow it out of proportions, especially since these people made a pretty good game for their very first time and having not made many games.
Tell me why I thought that emperor Bellows was older than this thing 9:55 he’s only 50. 9:55
A penguin that can fly is no longer a penguin. This is very stupid! Animals have evolved to be the most fit for their specific niche. Adding or changing traits will not make them "better" by default.
It's not an evolutionary mutation. It's a parasitic one so it's not necessarily gonna make evolutionary sense
Scientifically speaking, it would still be a penguin, but it would be a new specie of penguin. At least, if the changes were permanent.
Another character got revealed from the edited photo from ARG, it looks like a spinosaurus with piano teeth
So im guessing this was heavily inspired by “the thing” especially the mother
0:47 Paul petting Luna
Zoo's do in fact have you sign nda's
18:01 does... Does he not take his wife out of the body bag?
I mean he COULD, but she's already dead IN the body bag so it doesn't exactly change much about the ending
@pokegirl1799 ik but like at least get her body for a proper burial 😭 don't just leave your dead wife in the crazy zoo
"Why would a zoo have scientists" isnt that normal for places which house endangered or rare/understudied animals?
You can save your wife! You send her a meat brick then later answer ger xall and tell her to not eat that
It looks like the developers took inspiration from the movie The Thing. An alien creature found in the ice, parasit, deformed creatures.
Zoochosis staring Janova.
Isn't it jenova ? You talking about sephiroths alien god mother from final fantasy 7?
@@beckyseward6759 your probably right. I just didn't feel like checking.
@@beckyseward6759 HEY AM NOT AT THAT PART OF THE STORY YET
@@Modolisa am not at what part which story man?
@@beckyseward6759 that sepharoth as an alien god mother??
Now i know what happened to CJ after Grand Theft Auto San Andreas!
fun fact: paul wrecked the car in the end because his wife died cuz pf the doc
The whole “congruent chemistry”thing does not sit right with me at all as a proper explanation. Congruent chemistry is talking about phase changes. Water can go from a solid to a liquid to a gas without changing its molecular structure. It is incredibly hard for organic molecules to do this. It is even harder for living cells to do this. I feel like the whole explanation for the mother being older could have been easily explained by her appearing in multiple parts of the ice. Her regrowth of limbs can also just be because of axolotl genes or genes from another limb regenerating animal. Overall cool game idea though.
Ngl the doc might have had a point
Props for you for somehow deciphering this hot garbage. I bet it takes a lot of work.
I m so terrify
…But, where money? (JK)
The game is too traumatic as it is 😅😅😅😅
The ads are straining.
Shut up bitch ass
I kind of agree with doc