Eminem faced Canibus. Like what? Even Prime Nas knew Canibus was a dangerous lyricist. Others like Cole and Rakim deemed Canibus the best at one point.
Canibus when they beefed was not him out of his prime. That was the same Canibus that wrote second round KO, a diss track arguably better than Takeover.
Yeah but he didn't win. Dr.CPHD is better than Cannabitch. Eminem got lyrically annihilated. The only reason that's an unpopular opinion is because Eminem stans are worse than the swifties
There's no way lupe fiasco could win though because although lupe is a better rapper after not like us There's too many Kendrick fans and not enough lupe
@@reemy8245 yeah but the difference is that drake has a ton of haters too so that helped him win infact drake could have never won because he has more haters than fans
@@korontos9038 they’re too scared to try, haha. How can’t you see that. Eminem is the last on every other rappers list for beefs to get into with. You know that.
@@korontos9038 big rapper were afraid of him cause their respect will get demolished if they fight eminem. Only small rappers target him to get themselves fame but gets destroyed
4:04 Y'all forgot that he em went against canibus when canibus was in his prime?? And let's not forget how much dangerous canibus was as a battle rapper
Eminem battled Canibus, Ja Rule, Benzino, Everlast, and MGK He also threw shots at Joe Budden but Budden didn't dare respond. The reason Eminem doesn't have a great opponent in a rap beef is because his peers respect him
Big Sean outraps Drake. Handily. Drake sons Big Sean, but Drake also stole alot of Sean's style. Not the other way around. Sean would be the people's champion regardless of what Drake says. What's Drake gonna say about Sean? That he has no hits😭?
Big Sean not winning😭 They both have taken from each others styles but Sean’s was more like forced by Kanye to be more like Drake. Sean explained it in an interview
1:56 I'm actually SO glad you guys pointed this out. Literally explained the ONLY reason why Lupe didn't get as mainstream as the Big 3. Lupe didn't bother dumbing his stuff down or trying to make stuff for the mainstream. Plus his label troubles. As far as the rap battle goes I 100% agree as well. Lupe definitely has a slight edge in lyricism, but KDot is going to make a lyrical song and make it attract the masses more than Lupe. I actually been waiting to see you guys have a conversation on these two, thanks!
If Meek Mill said anything about Jack Harlow being a copycat of Drake, then Jack could just take the angle of it being the second time Meek got smoked by a Drake. No different outcome this time buddy ;D Quick example: Last beef you had you choked, if i'm Drake 2 then this is gonna be the second time you get smoked. Then you could have a food scheme (beef, choked (choke on your food) smoked (smoked beef) and then just build. Nothing you can ever get dissed with is not bad enough to not be turned around and used for ammo itself. So the winner will always be the best writer if not then he's not the best.
Kendrick would have the same edge over Pusha T as he has over Lupe. He has a stronger discography, he's more consistent, he's a better song maker, he has bigger reach as he has an established status among hip hop fans and casual fans equally. So even if lyrical battle would be close (I think Kendrick is a better lyricist than Pusha T personally but it would be close), I don't see Pusha winning.
@@nolan4826 "The diss isn't powerful when you remove what makes it powerful" that's like saying Hit Em Up isnt a crazy diss because sleeping with Biggies wife is what made it top tier.
Kendrick would defeat Lupe. Eminem would get a slight W over Hov. Drake would wash, absolutely dismantle Big Sean. Though I like Lil Baby more, I think in a battle, Dababy would wash him. JID and Joey is actually the toughest one, but slight edge to JID. Tyler defeats Rocky. Rocky's dating Riri, so he still wins. Lil Wayne would absolutely annihilate 50 to shreds😂 Jack just gotta mention Diddy and it's over. However, I think Meek Mill would put out a way better diss but no one is gonna care coz Jack said Diddy. J. Cole would smoke Royce. Push and Freddie will be so close, but slight edge to Pusha T.
My thoughts: Kendrick would win due to his reach and his ability to be more aggressive with the disses compared to Lupe who's mostly known for his lyrical capabilities Eminem wins because in his prime he was much better as a battle rapper than Jay-Z was in his prime. Big Sean wins because Kendrick and Pusha T brought a lot of damaging information to light so Big Sean could easily reference that stuff Dababy is more street oriented than Lil Baby is plus Dababy is more clear when he raps Toss up between Joey Bada$$ and JID Toss up between A$AP Rocky and Tyler, The Creator 50 Cent wins because he can be ruthless with his trolling and while Lil Wayne is the better rapper overall, he's not the greatest when it comes to disses I don't care about Meek Mill or Jack Harlow Royce Da 5'9 dissed D12 in their prime and still had a solid career afterwards, J. Cole apologized for making a diss track response. There's a difference. Pusha T wins because he could talk about Freddie Gibbs getting a P0rnstar pregnant (similarly to what he said about Drake, although at least Gibbs isn't attracted to minors so that's a W in it's own right)
Cole apologized cus hes friends with kdot…. But then again hes friends with royce so yea royce would win. (Can someone who isnt friends with Cole diss him😭😭)
@@nrenjenightmare5708 when him and Eminem weren't on speaking terms, they obviously squashed it but during the Conspiracy freestyle era, with all those disses primarily aimed at Ja Rule, Em wrote a couple lines directed at Royce as well.
Wrong about a few: JID destroys most on the list f JB. Wayne is a monster. He’s battle tested you just didn’t know who he was talking about. He’s the most subliminal rapper there is. He caused the Kendrick drake beef. Wayne is a fucking steam roller. He caused all the major rap beefs since 2009. He’s been subbing Eminem and Drake forever. Eminem subs him back equally. Drake lost the sub battle although Hype and Gylechester were hard. Wayne should not be judged off of ghoulish. He learned subliminally dissing is better for $$$. As you see by Drake getting massacred. Drake will lose everything. In fact: Kendrick’s line on Element - Say his name and I bet you see candyman wasn’t about himself. The rapper who has Humble 3 tracks later on the same album isn’t talking about himself. We okay we let the A1 Fly (Wayne is finished with the birdman case, and the best rapper can lay down subs back finally with the Carter 5 and funeral). Relocate hop in the same g5. (WE ARE GOING TO CATCH YOU). Yes Kendrick and Wayne are together. They hate Drake. But because of $$$ you never knew that. Watch my channel and see proof.
Y'all really gonna completely skip over the fact Lupe Fiasco absolutely demolished Royce Da 5'9?!? SLR 3 1/2 is maybe the single best diss track of the 2020s (besides maybe MTG), and he LITERALLY FREESTYLED AND RECORDED IT ONLY ONE HOUR after Royce put out his own diss track after working on it for like 2 weeks.....theres a reason even Mos Def backed out immediately when faced with the prospect of battle-rapping Lupe. Even though I feel Kendrick is definitely a better artist and one of the best lyricists in hip-hop in his own right - he simply doesn't approach Lupe when it comes to lyricism. Lupe could absolutely fuck Kendrick up on the mic, though the overall battle IMO would definitely be hard-fought by both sides.
It’s a shallow conversation they’re having here, at some point you just have to let it be because people’s love for one discography over the other is really the underlying talking point
Rapping is a more complex skill than just lyricism even tho lyricism is the foundation. Kendrick Lamar is a better rapper than Lupe even tho Lupe is hands down the better lyricist
@@chief-long-john but lupe is no slouch in every other dimension though. Lupe can write for the mainstream, he can dumb it down like he did in his diss to Royce. Lupe is way more flexible and skilled in all aspects of the craft and art than people give him credit for. My only thing with Lupe is his ego. Lupe needs his teams ear for music and beats and to bring him down to earth sometimes. If Kendrick and his team go against Lu by himself, there is a chance. But if Lu got the team behind Samurai with him, Lupe might actually win.
@@ImInYourBrains no I agree with you but Kendrick's flows shit on Lupe, no disrespect. But Kendrick's repertoire of flows is extensive. Delivery is easily easily Kendrick. Cadence is a wash. Beat selection is Kendrick. Storytelling is Kendrick (not by a crazy amount). Lupe doesn't need to dumb it down. I think Kendrick will try to match his lyricism (punch up) rather Lupe punch down. Also I agree with your assessment of Lupe's ego. Kendrick has access to the best producers in the game. I wouldn't shocked if he teamed up with Alchemist, mustard, and metro again, but I can expect others too like conductor and maybe even Tyler. Lupe sticks to his guys, which is cool but when you got Kendrick teaming up with juggernauts he's gonna have to come better than that
When it comes to lyricsm Big Sean is amazing, but when it comes to lyricsm given Drake's every Freestyle, Diplomatic Immunity, Dark Lane Demo Tapes, all drake features, diss tracks, time stamps, all the Dogs, scary hours,champagne poetry,Headie one, Headlines, and Nothing was the same the angles are aligned to Drake's favor if we're just taking wild guesses on who would win, not to underestimate Big Sean and his amazing talent
I feel like kanye vs cole wouldnt be a wash just based off a fact that j cole has copied and idolised kanye for so long, its hard to wash someone that iconic to you
Eminem ended Canibus, the man who single-handedly made LL Cool J LLL Cool J with Second Round KO. And you posers are saying he’s not battle tested? Get out of here
Canibus was already softened up by a stray from old man LL. He was already washed up and spiraling. TBH Em is not tested in the mainstream. He is the best battler to go mainstream and his opps are ICP, MGK and Mariah.....the Mariah verdict is still out lol
@@ST-wp9iz am a stan adjacent but Em took the L there. We dont even remeber or know Em's diss but Obsessed was and is a banger lol. It was played everywhere. Mariah did eat em up
Big Sean had the sauce 1st Drake just took it😂 "Niggas stole the flow, but I'm still standing 2. Thought I had the midas touch, and then I went platinum too."
I would take Lupe over Kendrick in a rap battle. There was a lot of ammo Kendrick had access to for Drake. I don't see Kendrick being able to use those same tactics against Lupe. Plus Lupe was able to beat Royce, so he is battle tested against a strong lyricist.
As a big Kendrick fan I’d also say Lupe has a slight edge over Kendrick as a technical lyricist. However Kendrick would clean Lupe cause he has that perfect balance of conscious rap and hit songs that would connect to the general public more.
How can you say he DOESNT? Big Sean bar for bar is wittier and for the 2020s has been making better music consistently, detorit 2 is better than CLB FATD and HN, plus Sean has a angle with his early supa dupa flow style being used by young money around that time 😂
@@romaretaylor9953 Sean got sonned on his own song with 2 verses vs 1. Big Sean in the 2020s doesn't have better written songs than 7AM In Bridle Path, Middle Of The Ocean, Losses and Champagne Poetry.
Yup 50 would probably agree because lil Wayne e free styling off his head and is still active. Even though 50 still makes music I can see Lil Wayne still coming up with rhymes just for fun while 50 is busy doing other business. Love em both though 💯💪🏿
Don’t think anyone would care since big Sean’s flow had actually been used by Luda before big Sean. And 3/4 people used it on the same song and it’s huge
Well.. nobody really said it should be in 2024, and prime joey would eat JID for breakfast. Survival Tactics energy & lyrics as a diss would be lethal..
The Big Sean disrespect has gotten out of hand! I understand he may not be as skilled as some of the top dawgs in the game but to act like he ain’t shit and that he would get bodied is crazy. I’ve always loved Sean and I’ve always thought he was one of the top spittas in the game. He would put up a hell of a fight against almost any MC right now, besides Kendrick of course.
Nah, as much as I like big Sean, he is getting smoked by drake. Sean would get obliterated by a bunch of other rappers as well, he just isn't a battle ready rapper, but still makes good music.
drake is great when it comes to battles. back to back is a top 10 diss track and duppy freestyle is also pretty good (even tho he got murdered right after). say what you want about his music, but he doesnt fuck around when it comes to battles.
@@Fusion-cx2ihyou don’t know how Sean would preform in a battle if he was actually FULLY engaged. he’s very witty and that’s already a very useful weapon, yall kill me thinking this dude is lyrically ass. I promise you he wouldn’t get smoked by drake esp nowadays
The eminem hasn't been against a top tier rapper just doesn't make sense because it doesn't downgrade his skill at all. It really doesn't make sense to me. If Eminem drops hit em up on f***ing t pain it doesn't make his track worse
As much as i like Kendrick and Lupe, Lupe would actually wash Kendrick, but Kendrick to me is a better artist than Lupe, but Lupe still got hits and can compose a great song
Lupe is arguably the greatest lyricist of all time but dot is a goat contender overall. Another thing you forgot is angles what angle does lupe have over kendrick only valid angle is that he is his inspiration or the originator. Pac is not even close to biggie lyrically but bodied him because of angles. I think if the angles are equal no mc ever except black thought beats lupe he is that much of a beast but i think in real life dot beats him
@richerprior5961 I feel you and he would have the right to say that but dots angles are crazy he could say lupe fell off he is bitter and specifically jealous of kendrick because he became what he thought he should have he could say he is more successful more decorated while also being critically acclaimed. Also lupe has said and done a bunch of crazy things pre black ball and the first lasers album he could poke it at that. Lmao if lupe even beefs dot he looks super jealous and envious especially after he just said drake is a better lyricist. You know kendrick stans would over power the hell out of his fan base, too
@@richerprior5961 lmao I am a huge lupe fan samurai and drill music and zion are both amazing and aoty contenders lol but the mainstream dosent consider that a mainstream rapper is like 21 savage or lil baby lupe was mainstream pre lasers most people dont check for underground cats like mach hommy Westside Gunn roc marciano regardless of quality
@@mandem2362 He’s not even close to Kendrick’s level if we’re being honest, I’ve heard all his albums , his best album doesn’t even compare to Kendrick’s worst album.. and in a rap battle it would be no competition
😂😂😂 How can this mo*on have an opinion on rap battles if his winning arguments is albums. Do you know how many underground battle rappers that'll f mainstream hip-hop stars in a rap battle? @@WeJammin
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Here’s my opinion: 1. Kendrick Lamar 2. Eminem 3. Big Sean 4. DaBaby 5. JID 6. Tyler, the Creator 7. Lil Wayne 8. Jack Harlow 9. Royce da 5’9 10. Pusha T
@@kkksentatouskridd177he just got a bunch of hype off his Tobey verse dummy, and don’t tell me Sean is irrelevant when niggas are talking about asap Rocky’s new shit like stop it 😂
I never understood where people got the idea that big sean copied Drake's style. First of all, Drake copied Sean's flow(the super dupa flow) in the early 2010s and even gave Sean the credit. Second, if you listen to Drake, he usually maintains his flow throughout his verses while Big sean usually switches flows during his verses. And most importantly, when I listen to Sean's albums, they sound nothing I can hear Drake on (subject wise most especially on Detroit 2 and I decided). I just never saw the comparison between the 2. I think they're both very different
Who I think will win in rap battling 1.Kendrick Lamar 2.Eminem 3.Big Sean Drake made a terrible diss towards Kendrick so yeah 4.DaBaby(He can actually rap his ass off but makes terrible music but he freestyle way better than lil baby rapping off beat and sounding so boring all the time) 5.JID 6.Its close on this one but I go with Rocky since he’s the better rapper 7.50 Cent cause Wayne never made a good diss towards someone like NAS 8.Meek Mill 9.Royce Da 5’9 10.Pusha T made one of the best disses ever made
Kendrick kills Lupe. Lupe has put out diss tracks and while his diss towards Royce is fire, he’s not disgusting with it like Kendrick and he’s not quite the hit maker. Kendrick is gonna hit him with so many different styles, so many different beat types, he’s gonna reach a much larger audience, and Lupe isn’t going to outbar Kendrick that badly. Kendrick is also going to come with crazy bars need days worth of analysis. Eminem absolutely decimates Jay Z. Back then, today, it doesn’t matter. Em bodies Jay. And I’m a guy that listens to Takeover more than Ether. Styles make matchups. If Lil Wayne actually lets go and just throws the nuke, throws everything he has, I don’t think there’s anyone in history that fucks with Lil Wayne. Kendrick is my GOAT, he wouldn’t want it with Wayne.
If we are comparing lyricism its not really debatable, Royce clears in that regard. Cole has a more mainstream sound and flows ig but in a rap battle Royce is winning 9/10 times. His rapping abilities reaches echelons of likes of Eminem. Moreover being heavily battle tested, I don't see this as a toss up.
@@nrenjenightmare5708 J Cole can easily Roast Royce by telling him he's Nobody without Eminem. Has No Solo Hits. Cole has been way more requested for features. Cole's verses get more celebrated. Cole has bigger songs.
The thing with Ja saying the culture thing was that he wasn’t wrong it was just the wrong individual at the wrong time to say it. Same exact thing with Kendrick and Drake. Pusha T and Joe both said everything Kendrick has said about Drake before it was just the wrong time for one of them and the other got him, he just wasn’t as big of an artist. Ja Rule was amazing back then but not as big as Em. If Jay were to take that angle with Em im 1000% confident that he’d win cause he’d dissect it to the last detail. Eminem also hasn’t gone up against someone of his same stature. It’s always been people below him that weren’t even with it so really he hasn’t had that much battle experience when faced with someone with the same pen as him or status
I am very sure that Lil wayne would beat 50 Cent because he is THE PUNCHLINE Rapper. Just look at a song like 6 foot 7 foot and you will see that Waynes Bars are fantastic
Just off the timestamps I can tell they’re gonna need an extra session of marriage counseling after this one
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Dude I was crying when you brought up diddy, meek couldn’t win a rap battle against Sabrina carpenter with that angle about him
Sabrina carpenter 😂
😂😂😂nahh Das crazy
Sabrina is literally a better freestyler lmao
😂😂😂
What did he say I forgot
Nah I needa see a lil baby vs dabsby rap battle now😭😭
Lil Baby would get washed tbh
Dababy would outrap him so fuckin well lmao
Battle of the babies
They’re cool with each other. Battles just don’t happen because the public want to see it happen
Dababy can rap his ass off
Eminem faced Canibus. Like what? Even Prime Nas knew Canibus was a dangerous lyricist. Others like Cole and Rakim deemed Canibus the best at one point.
Yes but canibus was clearly out of his prime
Canibus when they beefed was not him out of his prime. That was the same Canibus that wrote second round KO, a diss track arguably better than Takeover.
Yeah but he didn't win. Dr.CPHD is better than Cannabitch. Eminem got lyrically annihilated. The only reason that's an unpopular opinion is because Eminem stans are worse than the swifties
@@Python-xs2ivdon’t even know who canibus is but cannabitch is so funny 😭😭😭
Yaeh em may lost but lyrically he's light years above pac and can@@Python-xs2iv
I wanna see the ant vs lou rap battle
Nah I’m tryna see a clap battle
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BRO IMAGINE A FRIENDLY BATTLE RAP BETWEEN FREDDIE AND PUSHA IN A COLLAB ALBUM like on some Eminem and dre going back and forth type shi
coke goat v coke goat
I would kill to hear that song once
Bruuuuuuuuuuuhhhh this would be hard
These are all actually really good match ups not gonna lie smashed it with choices
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Joey VS JID would be absolutely insane
Seriously i love both I'd put my money on joey though
Lupe vs Kendrick will be insane rap battle
There's no way lupe fiasco could win though because although lupe is a better rapper after not like us There's too many Kendrick fans and not enough lupe
@@OfficeKiller not about fans drake has more fans and lost it’s about lyrics Lupe is fantastic lyrically Kendrick too so will be amazing rap battle
@@reemy8245 yeah but the difference is that drake has a ton of haters too so that helped him win infact drake could have never won because he has more haters than fans
@@reemy8245 Drake has just as many haters as he does fans, maybe even more so drake was never going to win the rap battle to begin with
Tbh Lupe is just mad that kenny ended up as Lupe wanted to but never got to😭
yep, agreed, and I am a Lupe fanboy from way back. 😞
Big Sean vs drake shouldn’t have been a conversation ngl
Who do u think would win
@@surendradhital5793drake but im taking big sean over j cole cuz j cole is 🐱
Drake would wipe Big Sean
Ong 😂 how biased someone would be if they think drake would not destroy big sean
@@fpalillero7304even you know deep down that cole would smoke both these guys.
excited for em album
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It came out and it was mid
“Eminem is only somewhat battle tested” 😂😂😂 The takes get funnier
has eminem ever battled with someone who is a big respected figure in hiphop and not fucking ja rule or mgk ?
@@korontos9038 they’re too scared to try, haha. How can’t you see that. Eminem is the last on every other rappers list for beefs to get into with. You know that.
@@korontos9038 big rapper were afraid of him cause their respect will get demolished if they fight eminem. Only small rappers target him to get themselves fame but gets destroyed
@@korontos9038no one dared challenge Eminem
@@juelzmusic7886You guys are mad corny lol
Ant v lu is an even bigger conversation
i think you guys should do this same idea but as brackets that would be really fun to watch
yeah, I wanted to see Em vs Kendrick convo
4:04 Y'all forgot that he em went against canibus when canibus was in his prime?? And let's not forget how much dangerous canibus was as a battle rapper
It wasn’t rlly a battle
Eminem battled Canibus, Ja Rule, Benzino, Everlast, and MGK
He also threw shots at Joe Budden but Budden didn't dare respond.
The reason Eminem doesn't have a great opponent in a rap beef is because his peers respect him
That’s not why, but okay lol!
@@SuperKillerdog it's cause people are scared to respond bruh
Big Sean outraps Drake. Handily. Drake sons Big Sean, but Drake also stole alot of Sean's style. Not the other way around. Sean would be the people's champion regardless of what Drake says.
What's Drake gonna say about Sean? That he has no hits😭?
Big Sean not winning😭
They both have taken from each others styles but Sean’s was more like forced by Kanye to be more like Drake. Sean explained it in an interview
I would love to see rocky and Tyler have a friendly battle
1:56 I'm actually SO glad you guys pointed this out. Literally explained the ONLY reason why Lupe didn't get as mainstream as the Big 3. Lupe didn't bother dumbing his stuff down or trying to make stuff for the mainstream. Plus his label troubles. As far as the rap battle goes I 100% agree as well. Lupe definitely has a slight edge in lyricism, but KDot is going to make a lyrical song and make it attract the masses more than Lupe. I actually been waiting to see you guys have a conversation on these two, thanks!
Kendrick has more oomph in what he says
If Meek Mill said anything about Jack Harlow being a copycat of Drake, then Jack could just take the angle of it being the second time Meek got smoked by a Drake. No different outcome this time buddy ;D
Quick example: Last beef you had you choked, if i'm Drake 2 then this is gonna be the second time you get smoked.
Then you could have a food scheme (beef, choked (choke on your food) smoked (smoked beef) and then just build. Nothing you can ever get dissed with is not bad enough to not be turned around and used for ammo itself. So the winner will always be the best writer if not then he's not the best.
Just shut up aubrey
you needa get in the booth
Guys I think we found one of Drake's ghostwriters
Tbh just bring up Diddy and meek will run away
harlow corny enough that he could actually lose this
“We have never seen Eminem tested against a top tier rapper” people literally just forget canibus I don’t get it
Canibus was clearly out of his prime
Canibus second album flopped and that’s when they were more beefing tbf but yeah Eminem wiped him out
The question should hasn’t test Em
They never truly battled tho lol.
@@MadLadMax Em didn't 'wipe' him out. He did win but Canibus's disses slapped hard
You guys need to make this a series!
Pusha T vs Kendrick would’ve been a better debate imo. Both of their styles made the fight vs Drake but how would it fare vs each other.
I agree but i dont hate the Lupe matchup either, Lupe is a top tier lyricist
Kendrick would have the same edge over Pusha T as he has over Lupe. He has a stronger discography, he's more consistent, he's a better song maker, he has bigger reach as he has an established status among hip hop fans and casual fans equally. So even if lyrical battle would be close (I think Kendrick is a better lyricist than Pusha T personally but it would be close), I don't see Pusha winning.
I honestly think Push would take it slightly. Love Kendrick but not a single diss between him/drake in this beef has been better than Story of Adidon.
@@WolfgangHarnerstory of Adidon isn’t that crazy of a diss. Sure the big reveal of drake son but that’s the only thing making it a top tier diss.
@@nolan4826 "The diss isn't powerful when you remove what makes it powerful" that's like saying Hit Em Up isnt a crazy diss because sleeping with Biggies wife is what made it top tier.
Kendrick would defeat Lupe.
Eminem would get a slight W over Hov.
Drake would wash, absolutely dismantle Big Sean.
Though I like Lil Baby more, I think in a battle, Dababy would wash him.
JID and Joey is actually the toughest one, but slight edge to JID.
Tyler defeats Rocky. Rocky's dating Riri, so he still wins.
Lil Wayne would absolutely annihilate 50 to shreds😂
Jack just gotta mention Diddy and it's over. However, I think Meek Mill would put out a way better diss but no one is gonna care coz Jack said Diddy.
J. Cole would smoke Royce.
Push and Freddie will be so close, but slight edge to Pusha T.
Bro hov do not rap battle
Love your videos, keep it up
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My thoughts:
Kendrick would win due to his reach and his ability to be more aggressive with the disses compared to Lupe who's mostly known for his lyrical capabilities
Eminem wins because in his prime he was much better as a battle rapper than Jay-Z was in his prime.
Big Sean wins because Kendrick and Pusha T brought a lot of damaging information to light so Big Sean could easily reference that stuff
Dababy is more street oriented than Lil Baby is plus Dababy is more clear when he raps
Toss up between Joey Bada$$ and JID
Toss up between A$AP Rocky and Tyler, The Creator
50 Cent wins because he can be ruthless with his trolling and while Lil Wayne is the better rapper overall, he's not the greatest when it comes to disses
I don't care about Meek Mill or Jack Harlow
Royce Da 5'9 dissed D12 in their prime and still had a solid career afterwards, J. Cole apologized for making a diss track response. There's a difference.
Pusha T wins because he could talk about Freddie Gibbs getting a P0rnstar pregnant (similarly to what he said about Drake, although at least Gibbs isn't attracted to minors so that's a W in it's own right)
Cole apologized cus hes friends with kdot…. But then again hes friends with royce so yea royce would win. (Can someone who isnt friends with Cole diss him😭😭)
wtf Royce has dissed D12 before?! That never got into my radar holy shit
@@nrenjenightmare5708 yeah I think it was back in 2003. The song is called Malcolm X
@@nrenjenightmare5708 when him and Eminem weren't on speaking terms, they obviously squashed it but during the Conspiracy freestyle era, with all those disses primarily aimed at Ja Rule, Em wrote a couple lines directed at Royce as well.
Wrong about a few:
JID destroys most on the list f JB.
Wayne is a monster. He’s battle tested you just didn’t know who he was talking about. He’s the most subliminal rapper there is. He caused the Kendrick drake beef. Wayne is a fucking steam roller. He caused all the major rap beefs since 2009. He’s been subbing Eminem and Drake forever. Eminem subs him back equally. Drake lost the sub battle although Hype and Gylechester were hard. Wayne should not be judged off of ghoulish. He learned subliminally dissing is better for $$$. As you see by Drake getting massacred. Drake will lose everything. In fact: Kendrick’s line on Element - Say his name and I bet you see candyman wasn’t about himself. The rapper who has Humble 3 tracks later on the same album isn’t talking about himself. We okay we let the A1 Fly (Wayne is finished with the birdman case, and the best rapper can lay down subs back finally with the Carter 5 and funeral). Relocate hop in the same g5. (WE ARE GOING TO CATCH YOU). Yes Kendrick and Wayne are together. They hate Drake. But because of $$$ you never knew that. Watch my channel and see proof.
Y'all really gonna completely skip over the fact Lupe Fiasco absolutely demolished Royce Da 5'9?!? SLR 3 1/2 is maybe the single best diss track of the 2020s (besides maybe MTG), and he LITERALLY FREESTYLED AND RECORDED IT ONLY ONE HOUR after Royce put out his own diss track after working on it for like 2 weeks.....theres a reason even Mos Def backed out immediately when faced with the prospect of battle-rapping Lupe.
Even though I feel Kendrick is definitely a better artist and one of the best lyricists in hip-hop in his own right - he simply doesn't approach Lupe when it comes to lyricism. Lupe could absolutely fuck Kendrick up on the mic, though the overall battle IMO would definitely be hard-fought by both sides.
It’s a shallow conversation they’re having here, at some point you just have to let it be because people’s love for one discography over the other is really the underlying talking point
Rapping is a more complex skill than just lyricism even tho lyricism is the foundation. Kendrick Lamar is a better rapper than Lupe even tho Lupe is hands down the better lyricist
@@chief-long-john exactly, people forget that.
@@chief-long-john but lupe is no slouch in every other dimension though. Lupe can write for the mainstream, he can dumb it down like he did in his diss to Royce. Lupe is way more flexible and skilled in all aspects of the craft and art than people give him credit for.
My only thing with Lupe is his ego. Lupe needs his teams ear for music and beats and to bring him down to earth sometimes. If Kendrick and his team go against Lu by himself, there is a chance. But if Lu got the team behind Samurai with him, Lupe might actually win.
@@ImInYourBrains no I agree with you but Kendrick's flows shit on Lupe, no disrespect. But Kendrick's repertoire of flows is extensive. Delivery is easily easily Kendrick. Cadence is a wash. Beat selection is Kendrick. Storytelling is Kendrick (not by a crazy amount). Lupe doesn't need to dumb it down. I think Kendrick will try to match his lyricism (punch up) rather Lupe punch down.
Also I agree with your assessment of Lupe's ego. Kendrick has access to the best producers in the game. I wouldn't shocked if he teamed up with Alchemist, mustard, and metro again, but I can expect others too like conductor and maybe even Tyler. Lupe sticks to his guys, which is cool but when you got Kendrick teaming up with juggernauts he's gonna have to come better than that
When it comes to lyricsm Big Sean is amazing, but when it comes to lyricsm given Drake's every Freestyle, Diplomatic Immunity, Dark Lane Demo Tapes, all drake features, diss tracks, time stamps, all the Dogs, scary hours,champagne poetry,Headie one, Headlines, and Nothing was the same the angles are aligned to Drake's favor if we're just taking wild guesses on who would win, not to underestimate Big Sean and his amazing talent
Sorry to be that guy and I don't want to discredit Drake's lyricism entirely, but we are not sure what's written by Drake and what isn't?
@@nrenjenightmare5708can say the same for big Sean. Quentin miller wrote for Sean too
@@kierannyaga5964no he did not, y’all be taking that man’s word out of context he worked on the song with them and him and Sean wrote YE’s verse
The only problem with Cole vs Royce is that J Cole would be on his knees asking for forgiveness and stuff after dropping a diss
Freddie vs Pusha would be ridiculous
Push would wipe the floor with him
there was alot of going back and forth between, arguing over who was better in their prime, and who's better now, for a rap battle
I feel like kanye vs cole wouldnt be a wash just based off a fact that j cole has copied and idolised kanye for so long, its hard to wash someone that iconic to you
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Big sean over drake rapping is insane😂 big sean dosent have a song like 5 am in Toronto 6pm in NY 0 to 100/ the catch up tuscan leather like bro WHAT
Eminem ended Canibus, the man who single-handedly made LL Cool J LLL Cool J with Second Round KO. And you posers are saying he’s not battle tested? Get out of here
Canibus was already softened up by a stray from old man LL. He was already washed up and spiraling. TBH Em is not tested in the mainstream. He is the best battler to go mainstream and his opps are ICP, MGK and Mariah.....the Mariah verdict is still out lol
@@mrsam0496people are seriously capping when they say that Em didn’t mop the floor with Mariah.
@@ST-wp9iz am a stan adjacent but Em took the L there. We dont even remeber or know Em's diss but Obsessed was and is a banger lol. It was played everywhere. Mariah did eat em up
@@mrsam0496you just said that you don't know or remember the song that made Mariah stop talking about Em. You're no "Stan adjacent", stop lying.
dababy over lil baby? evenly matched? r yall crazy???
Pusha T vs Freddie/Joey vs JID are underrated matchups.
Mos Def vs Talib would be a good one, Blackstar battle.
Big Sean had the sauce 1st Drake just took it😂
"Niggas stole the flow, but I'm still standing 2.
Thought I had the midas touch, and then I went platinum too."
Eminem is petty and more witty which helps in battle rap
Bruh the rap beef glazing never ends lmao
I would take Lupe over Kendrick in a rap battle. There was a lot of ammo Kendrick had access to for Drake. I don't see Kendrick being able to use those same tactics against Lupe. Plus Lupe was able to beat Royce, so he is battle tested against a strong lyricist.
Cole didn’t go through dissing Kendrick because like he already said he told Dre about Kendrick so he had a sort of connection to him
They’re gonna need an extra session of marriage counseling after this one 😭😭😭😭
Y'all should do the most iconic rap songs from each year 1990-20
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i know you guys are from canada but drake vs big sean is outrageous😭
"someone who won a rap battle this year" is the same someone who wrote a whole verse to someone who doesn't exist 😅😅
Please make another video🙏🏾. I enjoyed it. Please🙏🏾
As a big Kendrick fan I’d also say Lupe has a slight edge over Kendrick as a technical lyricist. However Kendrick would clean Lupe cause he has that perfect balance of conscious rap and hit songs that would connect to the general public more.
HERE IN THE FIRST 6 MINUTES
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"1+1 equals 2" 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Prime Eminem is unstoppable.
Anyone can get beat. Every dawg has its day bro.
@@Obie_24 Eminem never lost to anyone or got outrapped
@@masudbillah6196 When he was on the battle rap scene he did.
Hear Tobey from Eminem, Big Sean’s verse it’s crazy I think big Sean is overlooked at. Big Sean just gets better and better over time.
Kendrick
Em
Drake
Dababy
Jid
Tyler
50
Meek
Royce
Push
Nah - how could you even say big Sean has a chance vs Drake 😂😂 I’m fkn dead lmao
How can you say he DOESNT? Big Sean bar for bar is wittier and for the 2020s has been making better music consistently, detorit 2 is better than CLB FATD and HN, plus Sean has a angle with his early supa dupa flow style being used by young money around that time 😂
@@romaretaylor9953 Sean got sonned on his own song with 2 verses vs 1.
Big Sean in the 2020s doesn't have better written songs than 7AM In Bridle Path, Middle Of The Ocean, Losses and Champagne Poetry.
@@siba2379none of those songs were written by aubrey. Sean would smoke him
@@romaretaylor9953big sean worst bars is worse than anything drake said in his whole career unironically
@@romaretaylor9953lmao he tried to get witty it always comes off unbelievably cringe i don’t even like drake and big sean is getting crushed by him
Weezy smokes 50 imo
Yup 50 would probably agree because lil Wayne e free styling off his head and is still active. Even though 50 still makes music I can see Lil Wayne still coming up with rhymes just for fun while 50 is busy doing other business. Love em both though 💯💪🏿
Wayne is literal garbage fire in a diss battle. Wayne got cooked by Pusha T while 50 had no problem going after everyone. 50 would deep fry Wayne.
Wayne sucks in rap battles but 50 sucks in general so wayne wins
50 made a song called how to rob where he dissed every single rapper in the industry while wayne never won a beef
Cut that shit, galilie still living fine with that Wayne jab😂
Drake stole big Sean’s flow that angle alone is crazy
Don’t think anyone would care since big Sean’s flow had actually been used by Luda before big Sean. And 3/4 people used it on the same song and it’s huge
Great vid guys!!
Well.. nobody really said it should be in 2024, and prime joey would eat JID for breakfast. Survival Tactics energy & lyrics as a diss would be lethal..
shout out Ant shit was cool you brought that sause😂😂🔥🔥✊🏾
The Big Sean disrespect has gotten out of hand! I understand he may not be as skilled as some of the top dawgs in the game but to act like he ain’t shit and that he would get bodied is crazy. I’ve always loved Sean and I’ve always thought he was one of the top spittas in the game. He would put up a hell of a fight against almost any MC right now, besides Kendrick of course.
He's just not creative enough
Nah, as much as I like big Sean, he is getting smoked by drake. Sean would get obliterated by a bunch of other rappers as well, he just isn't a battle ready rapper, but still makes good music.
drake is great when it comes to battles. back to back is a top 10 diss track and duppy freestyle is also pretty good (even tho he got murdered right after). say what you want about his music, but he doesnt fuck around when it comes to battles.
@@Fusion-cx2ihyou don’t know how Sean would preform in a battle if he was actually FULLY engaged. he’s very witty and that’s already a very useful weapon, yall kill me thinking this dude is lyrically ass. I promise you he wouldn’t get smoked by drake esp nowadays
I actually agree with this
The eminem hasn't been against a top tier rapper just doesn't make sense because it doesn't downgrade his skill at all. It really doesn't make sense to me. If Eminem drops hit em up on f***ing t pain it doesn't make his track worse
As much as i like Kendrick and Lupe, Lupe would actually wash Kendrick, but Kendrick to me is a better artist than Lupe, but Lupe still got hits and can compose a great song
I dont know how Drake can win any beef. You have to write your own lyrics in hip hop. He shouldnt even be making diss tracks.
Y’all should have a prepared rap battle sometime. I think that Lu would sweep
17:35 imagine if he plays that audio clip in the diss 😂
Meek mill and jack harlow having a diddy off
Young thug vs Travis would be a crazy rap battle
Thug wipes
Thug offing him
Calling Eminem "only somewhat battle tested" is ridiculous.
they mean that he hasnt been tested against anyone good
@@EchoXPHis opponents would feel so bad if they see your comment 😂😂😂, Especially cannibus.
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Dang i had no clue on the travis one
we gotta see all of these rn
I would be VERY surprised if Dot were to beat Lu in a battle.
Lupe is arguably the greatest lyricist of all time but dot is a goat contender overall. Another thing you forgot is angles what angle does lupe have over kendrick only valid angle is that he is his inspiration or the originator. Pac is not even close to biggie lyrically but bodied him because of angles. I think if the angles are equal no mc ever except black thought beats lupe he is that much of a beast but i think in real life dot beats him
@@treycarter7826 Lupe angle would Kendrick being a goat contender although he’s not lyrically better than him
@richerprior5961 I feel you and he would have the right to say that but dots angles are crazy he could say lupe fell off he is bitter and specifically jealous of kendrick because he became what he thought he should have he could say he is more successful more decorated while also being critically acclaimed. Also lupe has said and done a bunch of crazy things pre black ball and the first lasers album he could poke it at that. Lmao if lupe even beefs dot he looks super jealous and envious especially after he just said drake is a better lyricist. You know kendrick stans would over power the hell out of his fan base, too
@@treycarter7826 you have a point except the Lupe fell off angle, he’s better now
@@richerprior5961 lmao I am a huge lupe fan samurai and drill music and zion are both amazing and aoty contenders lol but the mainstream dosent consider that a mainstream rapper is like 21 savage or lil baby lupe was mainstream pre lasers most people dont check for underground cats like mach hommy Westside Gunn roc marciano regardless of quality
Can someone please send this video to lupe fiasco😂😂😂
Could y’all imagine J.I.D. Vs. Eminem? Or J.I.D. Vs. Kendrick?
These mfs NEED to start beefing. PLEASE
JID’s one of my favorite rappers but cmon he losing both…. Maybe he stands a chance against kdot
Well I don't think J.I.D. and Eminem are going to diss each other ANY time soon lol
Eh I don't see JID winning either of those at all
Em vs Jay-Z is who I would sell tickets to, but Kenny vs Lupe is the one that I'd likely savor the most, for the bars alone.
Meek Mill vs Dave East would of been better fitted
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Where is the GOAT yuno miles?? 🐐👑
He the final boss. he’s not even in this conversation cuz he’s that good
Cant believe people actually think Lupe is a better rapper than Kendrick even tho Lupe cant make a good album to save his life💀
You're saying this without listening to a single Lupe album.
@@mandem2362 He’s not even close to Kendrick’s level if we’re being honest, I’ve heard all his albums , his best album doesn’t even compare to Kendrick’s worst album.. and in a rap battle it would be no competition
😂😂😂 How can this mo*on have an opinion on rap battles if his winning arguments is albums. Do you know how many underground battle rappers that'll f mainstream hip-hop stars in a rap battle? @@WeJammin
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Lupe bars already goes over peoples head, I dont expect playlist listeners to resonate with the guy that made Dorgas Wave
Here’s my opinion:
1. Kendrick Lamar
2. Eminem
3. Big Sean
4. DaBaby
5. JID
6. Tyler, the Creator
7. Lil Wayne
8. Jack Harlow
9. Royce da 5’9
10. Pusha T
Change 1&2
@@anthonycollins2383 Big Sean is not defeating drake in a rap battle I'm sorry....
No one is talking about big Sean in 2024
Big Sean is not beating Drake
@@Python-xs2iv why you say that
@@kkksentatouskridd177he just got a bunch of hype off his Tobey verse dummy, and don’t tell me Sean is irrelevant when niggas are talking about asap Rocky’s new shit like stop it 😂
How many writers does Drake get
It's funny because 50 cent and Wayne actually have gone at it 😂
I never understood where people got the idea that big sean copied Drake's style. First of all, Drake copied Sean's flow(the super dupa flow) in the early 2010s and even gave Sean the credit.
Second, if you listen to Drake, he usually maintains his flow throughout his verses while Big sean usually switches flows during his verses.
And most importantly, when I listen to Sean's albums, they sound nothing I can hear Drake on (subject wise most especially on Detroit 2 and I decided). I just never saw the comparison between the 2. I think they're both very different
Who I think will win in rap battling
1.Kendrick Lamar
2.Eminem
3.Big Sean Drake made a terrible diss towards Kendrick so yeah
4.DaBaby(He can actually rap his ass off but makes terrible music but he freestyle way better than lil baby rapping off beat and sounding so boring all the time)
5.JID
6.Its close on this one but I go with Rocky since he’s the better rapper
7.50 Cent cause Wayne never made a good diss towards someone like NAS
8.Meek Mill
9.Royce Da 5’9
10.Pusha T made one of the best disses ever made
Drake cooking Sean. Family matters is cooking 99% of the current industry, it’s just that Kendrick is the literal goat
@@kierannyaga5964 you ever heard big Sean recently he raps way better than Drake
@@LilJMoney-zh1yp he just doesn’t. I listen to Sean too
@@kierannyaga5964oh you everywhere caping for drake you a OVHOE huh
JID has aura
4:05 yes, because surely nobody dares to go against him 😄
Big Sean stole Drake’s flow?😂😂😂
The opposite. Drake is know for taking people's flows and styles
Drake is the one who copied Big Sean whole flow 🤦🏿
Kendrick kills Lupe. Lupe has put out diss tracks and while his diss towards Royce is fire, he’s not disgusting with it like Kendrick and he’s not quite the hit maker. Kendrick is gonna hit him with so many different styles, so many different beat types, he’s gonna reach a much larger audience, and Lupe isn’t going to outbar Kendrick that badly. Kendrick is also going to come with crazy bars need days worth of analysis.
Eminem absolutely decimates Jay Z. Back then, today, it doesn’t matter. Em bodies Jay. And I’m a guy that listens to Takeover more than Ether. Styles make matchups.
If Lil Wayne actually lets go and just throws the nuke, throws everything he has, I don’t think there’s anyone in history that fucks with Lil Wayne. Kendrick is my GOAT, he wouldn’t want it with Wayne.
C O L O N I Z E R S didn't even take two minutes to sniff this particular sentiment out!
Dang bruh you guys should’ve really done Freddie vs Benny bc they actually had beef and Freddie and Pusha T are cool with each other
J Cole would easily take Royce if he gets Aggressive
@@bigdaddylocdiesel5688 Jermaine apologises before they even start😂
@@kkksentatouskridd177us Cole fans will forget that moment happened 😅😭
If we are comparing lyricism its not really debatable, Royce clears in that regard. Cole has a more mainstream sound and flows ig but in a rap battle Royce is winning 9/10 times. His rapping abilities reaches echelons of likes of Eminem. Moreover being heavily battle tested, I don't see this as a toss up.
@@nrenjenightmare5708 J Cole can easily Roast Royce by telling him he's Nobody without Eminem. Has No Solo Hits. Cole has been way more requested for features. Cole's verses get more celebrated. Cole has bigger songs.
@@bigdaddylocdiesel5688 Royce is nobody without Eminem? Are you fucking out of your mind?
Ant looking like a munch on this fine Thursday
Are we talking fresh rap "off the dome" battle or VZ?
The thing with Ja saying the culture thing was that he wasn’t wrong it was just the wrong individual at the wrong time to say it. Same exact thing with Kendrick and Drake. Pusha T and Joe both said everything Kendrick has said about Drake before it was just the wrong time for one of them and the other got him, he just wasn’t as big of an artist. Ja Rule was amazing back then but not as big as Em. If Jay were to take that angle with Em im 1000% confident that he’d win cause he’d dissect it to the last detail. Eminem also hasn’t gone up against someone of his same stature. It’s always been people below him that weren’t even with it so really he hasn’t had that much battle experience when faced with someone with the same pen as him or status
I am very sure that Lil wayne would beat 50 Cent because he is THE PUNCHLINE Rapper. Just look at a song like 6 foot 7 foot and you will see that Waynes Bars are fantastic
18:21 ant saying dafuck is 😭😭😭