I think its really important to put more emphasis on how, while movie Voldemort died in a very spectacular and magical way (corn-flaking away), book Voldemort died with a thunk while his very mortal human body hit the ground. It wasn't magical, it wasn't dramatic, and most especially, it wasn't SPECIAL. He died surrounded by a hundred bodies of people who died just like him, because for all of his ambition he died exactly the way he was born and exactly the thing he hated, an unremarkable half-blood.
Do the movies let the audience know Voldemort is a half-blood. I know we find this out in Half-Blood Prince but I don't remember if it was in the movie. IF the movie did leave it out, then audiences are losing a big part of who Voldemort was since him being half blood is so important. Just some food for thought.
Thank you. It was such a disappointment for me that the death of Voldemort was changed in this manner. It changed the whole meaning of his death. The event itself should've been dramatic enough, in my opinion. And I also didn't like that they kind of took away Harry's achievement in this scene. It was one of my favorite scenes in the book when after his "resurrection" Harry faces Voldemort so confidently, as a grownup, and in the full knowledge that he now has the upper hand. I think it was a very badass thing and it was a shame that they took it away from Harry's character in the movie. I think that that flying around kind of battle between them made Harry look like he hadn't achieved anything in the last 7 years, like he was still much weaker than Voldemort, when in the books it was the exact opposite.
1. Rowling would agree with you. It's why she let them change the death in the movie. Not all great ideas come at once -- if she had thought of that then she would have it in the books. 2. I thought having Voldemort's corporeal remains lay there was a great vindication moment for Harry and the entire wizarding world as proof of an end to their suffering. To give them that feeling of working so hard for something and it finally being over. But, rather like Hitler's suicide, Voldemort caused decades of suffering to people he never even met and then suddenly his victims find out he no longer exists.
Seabass Cribel the question isn't about how long it took to find out how to kill him, it's about how important it was that Voldemort dies a mortal man. That, despite all of his murder, brutality, and terrorism, despite all the mysticism around him (people being afraid to say his name like some mythic boogeyman), even in a world's of living myths and legends, he was just a mortal man who died a mortal death. Nothing mystical, nothing magical, in the end he was just a corpse that hit the floor.
yeah same here, it would have been amazing if when they are at the bridge harry takes out the pieces of his old wand, uses his elder wand to repair it, then breaks the elder wand
I always saw it as allowing that last connection to Voldemort to die. Since their wands were brothers with twin cores, It seemed fitting to me that Harry would leave his wand broken in favor of starting fresh than to be sentimental about it or cling to it.
I personally had a problem with how they squeezed in Bill's introduction after completely ignoring him in part 6. -_- "Hi, my name's Bill Weasley, and I got this scar from a werewolf."
Exactly. I think it would have been better to just give his role in Deathly Hallows to Charlie, since he already was established in the movies. Bill on the other hand came out of nowhere for people who hadn't read the book. In the movies it wasn't even clarified whether Harry knew Ron had a brother named Bill or not.
You left out one often over-looked thing that has a bigger impact on the series than you think: in the movie, Voldemort has the ability to tell when a horcrux is destroyed. In the book, there is a chapter from his point of view where he realizes he has no way of knowing when one is destroyed.
IMO he has no way of knowing that they've even been destroyed until he personally searches for them and finds them missing and realizes someone knows his secret.
IMO adding that part was a good thing as it shows that u can sense when a part of ur soul is destroyed that makes voldy falling after "killing " harry better explained.
i thought harry using crucio on the Carrow twin after he spit in mcgonagolls face was a huge missed scene that was not in the movie. it showed how much respect Harry had for her
Everything between him and McGonagoll in the last book is awesome. They both get moments that showed exactly how close they'd grown over the years, without having to stop and explain anything.
I liked this too. I thought that it showed Harry's character to a great degree in my opinion. He was willing to use Cruciatus (on Bellatrix in rage in book 5, and on the Carrow twin after he insulted McGonagall - I also like his line there, "I see what Bellatrix meant...you have to really mean it"). He was also willing to use Imperius (on the Gringotts goblin, in the cause of the greater good while attempting to get the cup). But he never stooped to Voldemort's level. He never used Avada Kadavra, not once, not even against Voldemort himself, instead relying on the spell that had saved him so many times before, Expelliarmus. He wasn't willing to even use such an evil curse on his ultimate enemy. We even see other "good" characters in the book stoop to that level - in my opinion, the description that is given for Bellatrix's death heavily implies that Molly used the killing curse to protect her daughter, which actually fits in perfectly with her character of doing anything for her family.
@@Leonfei In no reasonable society nor in any western religion's Book is it murder to kill in defense of yourself or you family. (I can't speak to the eastern religions as I'm not familiar with what they have to say about it.) Molly could've used AK and it still wouldn't have been murder, though it still might have been unforgiveable in the magic world.
Dobby also got kind of robbed in the changes of the movies. He doesn't appear after the second movie and comes back only to die and jerk tears while in the books he's there in Harry's second, fourth, fifth and sixth years at hogwarts, helping him and building a friendship with him, and the emotion of his death is much more felt that way.
I will add one thing: the radio show produced by Fred and George is almost completely left out, which kills the tone a little bit for me. The radio show was a reason for the Golden Trio to keep on their quest when they began to lose all faith - they had family and friends they were fighting for, and if their family could keep going, so could they.
I understand the anger at how poorly Neville was done by the movie adaptation, but you barely brushed on Ginny Weasley in the whole 3 parts and the second movie is very much about her importance and she is mostly the reason that Harry comes back to life. Harry's main goal in life is to have a family after his was so brutally taken away from him by all of the deaths in his life. The Weasley's and Ginny are that family that he so craves the entire series and it bugs me so much that she is basically in the movies for like 5 whole minutes. Also all of the scenes cut Harry and Hermione together and Ron off in the background like that ridiculous hug before he goes off to confront Voldemort in the last battle. Harry is the reason that Ron grows up and he is fiercely protective of Harry. This hug ruins both Ron and Ginny's character because Ginny is the one he walks past and almost turns back around for and Ron would have stopped him just like he tried to do with a broken leg in the Shrieking Shack during their 3rd year. Ginny is fierce and smart and deserved so much better, just like Ron and the whole Weasley family.
Yes but Neville is the other boy who lived and given the two plot points, his parallel story to Harry's is or should be more important that a romantic subplot in a series of novels that wasn't very much about romance at all
Ceares wdym “romantic subplot” The Weasleys are basically The family Harry never had. They’re one of the most important aspects of the book to Harry. They’re not just there for comic relief. You obviously didn’t read the books because you wouldn’t be shitting on the Weasleys like that. Neville has some significance but he isn’t as important to the series as the Weasleys are.
Still the love story for Harry and Ginny in the book is also rushed and makes no sense! How can you fell in love with somebody so madly that a couple of years ago you cared so much little about? And also, in couple of scenes in the book Harry was disappointed of her presence, or being on the team! Come on Harry!
I think one of the biggest changes/ important differences was Peter Pettigrew showing sympathy at Malfoy manor, and getting choked. It shows some soul to the character and was a pretty graphic (mentally) of a scene.
Hermione would never let Harry sacrifice himself. I just find it OOC for her to. Hermione's the type of "nobody's going to die, we're going to find a logical solution", not "oh go die I'm fine with it".
So I know you guys aren't going over all the changes because there are so many, but there are 3 in particular that I feel are worth mentioning. The first one you did talk about a little bit was how the movies basically skipped all of Voldemort's back story. While I am all for giving Harry and friends agency I feel like it is such a huge disservice to Voldemort's character and Harry coming to terms with the fact that Voldemort is simply a wizard, just like everyone else (as also shown by him simply dying like a normal man instead of disintegrating like a fowl beast.) Instead these scenes were replaced by Twilight-esc teen romance. The second one I understand why you didn't mention because it wasn't super important was how Wormtail died. At the end he decided to let Harry and Ron go which then set his new hand to strangle him to death. I feel like this gave Wormtail more of a character arc that allowed him to be at least somewhat redeemed in the end. And lastly how Harry BROKE THE ELDER WAND WITHOUT EVEN FIXING HIS OWN! Like, I can understand if the movie decided to have him snap the Elder Wand, it shows Harry relinquishing power in an ultimate way, but they could have at least fixed his original wand first
A couple others... they had Voldemort backhand slap Harry... let that sink in... instead of showing the epic wizard Duel between Kingsley McGonagall Slughorn and Voldemort, Belatrix and Tonks, Lupin vs Dolohov, the house elves Giants and centaurs in the great hall. OMG whyyyyy.... They kept saying Harry was independent in the movies but that shortchanges the theme! The whole point is that he isn't stronger than Voldemort but he wins because of his ability to love his friends.... Anyone who knows anything about good writing knows that there needs to be a center theme. The first 5 follow the books' but they break away so awkwardly in the last ones.
sivad parks Also the fact that they completely left out the fact that Harry's intention of sacrifice forever protected the world from Voldemort's curses, whether he survived or not.
Evan Gray The biggest thing about not having shown Tom's backstory is that you don't have the feeling of remorse for him when he dies. Voldemort was always afraid of Death, he couldn't come to terms with it. It's why he made 6(7) Horcruxes. To ensure he could never die. Conceived under a love potion prevented him from feeling love, and Harry even offered the chance of redemption to him.
Evan Gray Maybe I missed it, but I think they also didn't mention the fact that Dumbledore's sister Arianna wouldn't use her magic because she was bullied and their dad killed those bullies because her suppressed magic killed their mum. Another huge plot device that was missing was the RAB mystery.
An important scene left out of the final movie, in my opinion, is when Voldemort offers Hogwarts one last chance to deliver Harry to him and Pansy tries to get everyone to deliver on that offer. This much happens in the movie but the difference is, in the movie, relevant characters (only) surround Harry in solidarity and that's that. But in the book, every student from every house other than Slytherin draws their wand on her instead. I feel the book version of the scene is much more powerful while the movie version is just doing what it can to save screen time, time which would have only amounted to a few more minutes at the most.
Nah, both the movie and the book version are terrible, the scene in both the book and movie have the slytherin's locked up in the dungeon, while the whole end of the movie/book has Harry telling his son it's ok to be a slytherin, I think the scene should have been cut entirely as it really gave mixed signals on the whole "slytherins aren't necessarily bad" plot point at the end.
TheBrownTown007 actually the Slytherins were taken to the dungeon because that's where their common room is ! They were locked up in their common room mainly because they would have to face their families if they fought alongside Harry and I think they would rather fight Harry then their families and Minerva simply coudln't risk that.
John Smith, that literally doesn't change my point that they were locked up, and no duh is it there common room, that's (pardon the pun) common knowledge. Also once again, YOU'RE enforcing the negative stereotype that all slytherins joined Voldemort, especially with the assumption that most of their parents would be on his side, and assuming that's why they were locked up despite the fact that's not why they were locked up -_-
@@jessebrown1996 what can I say? I'm a Gryffindor 😓 no but seriously, In the books at least all the students who,in the moment, were ready to fight alongside Harry, pulled their wands so it's natural to lock the others somewhere safe and avoid disturb
John Smith No it's not, the whole ending of the book says slytherin isn't that bad but the scene still perpetuates that all slytherins are bad and would have turned Harry in, hence why they locked them in the dungeon. They didn't lock them in their for safety, do you even remember the book?
Ok maybe this only bothered me but one of the only things that REALLY bothered me about the book/movie changes is how the last movie didn't include the line, "It did for me." It's when Harry's son is terrified about being sorted into Slytherin and Harry tells his son (something he had never told ANYONE before, it says that) that if it's really that important you can CHOOSE which house you're sorted into. That he HIMSELF chose Gryffindor. That's. The. Point. THAT is what is ever present throughout the series, CHOICE. Harry's CHOICE to go into Gryffindor instead of Slytherin. His CHOICE to become a leader even though her never wanted to be. Voldemort's CHOICE to go after Harry instead of Neville. Dumbledore's CHOICES that ultimately led to his sister's death. Malfoy's CHOICE not to kill Dumbledore. And the list goes on... I dunno maybe I'm alone in this but when they left that part out I felt cheated.
lol in the first movie you can clearly see Harry beeging the hat and then (if im not mistaken) it says "not Slytherin eh, are you sure ?" so the audience know that little detail which will make the line in the epilogue kinda weak and useless
That's one of the things about the Sorting Hat. It always gives the choice in all other matters, so it is reasonable to assume that it will let each kid choose themselves which house to go into. It just teases them with the house it knows they absolutely doesn't want to go into, to make them state their choice themselves. That's always been my thought on it at least.
About the Deathly Hallows part 1 it may seem superficial but meant alot to me that the Dursley's didn't resent him as expected and Dudley even being grateful being protected from in the Dementor attack and confused about him now leaving them (seen in deleted scenes sure but that's Highly unlikely to have been seen by everyone) and Kreacher's change when he's treated well by Harry and his friends (he even stops calling Hermione mudblood, is actually jolly, cook and clean showing that even he had unkown depth to his character). And the change about Voldemort and Harry's final confrontation is also sgnificant since it's about so many people seeing him die, proving he was mortal after all.
He woke up naked. Which is a metaphor for innocence. Meaning he didn't even know what clothes were. Then he slowly remembered the existence of clothes, and they appeared for him to wear. He didn't stay naked.
I looked forward to seeing Bellatrix simultaneously dueling Hermione, Luna & Ginny before Mrs. Weasley stepped in and eventually killed her in a much more dramatic and dangerous duel to the death. That was a very disappointing change.
I am going to argue against the point of Harry telling his friends. In the movie yes its a matter of trust, but in the book its a matter of sacrifice. Book Harry knows that if he goes to his friends, regardless of whether or not he tells them what he's about to do, he will lose his resolve and not go to Voldemort. It's not a matter of them convincing him against it, its a matter of his strength to do what needs to be done despite his emotional needs in the moment. Its more heartbreaking because it is the one thing he wants to do before he dies, and its the one thing he can't allow himself to do. By the movie making it about trust in friends, it not only took away the heartbreak of it by giving us what we wanted but couldn't have. Think of it this way, the whole of the story is about Harry becoming and fully realizing his role as the hero. That last sacrifice was all his own doing, knowing his friends would weaken his resolve. By making him talk to Hermione and Ron, firstly, it more emphasizes his relationship with Hermione than his relationship with Ron (I mean, maybe Ron is too shocked to speak, but they could have at least had a moment that was more of a look when this is the last time they'll see each other) rather than both of them, but secondly it goes against the theme of Harry coming into his own.
Nope, the "coming of age" theme never hit me in the movies, because movie-Harry is exactly the same character through the entire story.. Philosopher's Stone-Harry is actually the most mature to me xD
The scene of Harry telling to Lupin to go back to his family was pretty mature, that would be better for the movie if they were going for "Harry got this"
I dont understand why they put so much focus on this excuse. It don`t appear in the movies strongly, so if it was the reason they didnt build this well with the rest fo the movie, or (what i think is the true) are most pragmatic changes that can be interpreted that way but are not related to a coming age theme in the movies. The fact that daniel in the last movies is not representing too well harty personality and is too much passive to pass the coming of age theme even it was pllaned could be another factor
one difference i didn't like was how voldemort was defeated. if i remember correctly he uses the disarming spell to well. disarm voldemort snd his killing curse is shot out and voldemort essentially kills himself. if i remembered that correctly than i have to say i prefer that far more than the dragon ball z style beam fight. also imagining voldemort just deopping dead was alot better in my opinion than him fading away. it also came about alot better because harry is even told to stop using it so much. that its becoming his go to spell. just liked it better. technique over pure strength. that is if i remember it correctly. if im wrong feel free to tell me.
walter denny I was just about to bring this up! It's one of my biggest hates with the adaptation of the last book. You're right, he just drops dead with, to quote the book, "a mundane finality," symbolising that at the end of it all, Voldemort was just a man.
dbz style battles should be kept for over the top straight forward badass confrontation with different contexts. i despise it when they overuse it and put it just to make things look bombastic and entertaining just for the sake of entertainment. it has no use putting there in Harry Potter other than to hype up audiences.
I hate that the movies tried to make harry grow up and be independent faster because in the books he's not at all. He's definitely not ready to go find all the horcruxes and defeat voldemort until the deathly hallows. his personality is completely different in the movies.
While on one hand I hated that scene at the end of the fifth book where Harry threw a temper tantrum in Dumbledore's office, I also liked that Harry's "maturation" was being a teenage delinquent just like his (and Snape's) understanding of his father and the Weasley twins.
That's not a bad thing though, I personally like that Harry grows to be more confident and ready as the years go on. It makes his journey more compelling and it makes him feel like a character whos truly come a long way since that first year in Sorcerer's Stone. Obviously he's not ready to defeat Voldemort as a first year, but he's given all the tools he needs by the time Deathly Hallows rolls around and by then he needs to have shown that he has the strength and courage to do what needs to be done. Just because it's different from the movie doesn't make it bad.
Well, if you had to face off with a three headed dog, a two headed man, run from a werewolf, almost get killed by dementors, battle a dragon, see a fellow kid die, see your godfather die, and see your best friends get hurt from a goose chase you led them on, all while you are not much more than a child yourself, I bet you would throw a fit and start smashing things too
Half-Blood Prince might be my least-favorite Harry Potter movie, not just because how much they changed from the book, but how the changes both take away from what I felt were pretty important revelations (in favor of stupid romance subplots) and how the changes, like the attack at the Burrow, makes no sense and feel ultimately pointless.
I agree that Neville was shortchanged significantly and the books do a better job of explaining and portraying why his character is so important. Per the books, it's explained that Voldemort himself turned Harry into the "Chosen One" by picking him to die vs Neville, since the prophecy only specified that it was a child born at the end of July, and it could have technically been either of them, something the books make very clear. And it's why Neville's backstory and his key part in Voldemort's downfall is more important and gratifying. This is the biggest change (other than the final battle between Harry & Voldemort) that bothers me the most. On that note, I honestly don't know why they so drastically dumbed down and changed the final battle. It couldn't be for time, because if you add up all the shooting and fighting between HP and Voldy, it would have played out just fine time-wise in the movie version if they had kept it true to the book.
Personally, I've never crad about. This whole thing, Nevile could've been the choosen one as well seemed to just a coold adding to the story, but nothing more.
In the book Harry tells Neville to kill Nagini right before he was going to the Forbidden Forest. In the movie he tells Ron and Hermione to kill Nagini.
Actually I don't agree that Neville was the most short changed character in the series (though I agree with the whole rant about the scene with the sword and porbably the worst cut from the books, the scene in the hospital with his parents). In the Goblet of Fire it's Dobby that gives Harry the Gillyweed, in the film it's Neville. Fot that matter I think Dobby is the most short changed character, several times in the books (that were cut from the movies) he's the one that goes to great lengths to help Harry. The scene already mentioned on the GoF, his the one who that warns the DA that Umbridge is coming in OftP, his search with Kreacher for Mundungus, amongst others... His death as a book reader is even more heartfelt...
Absolutely. The films shortchanged Dobby the most, then Ron, then Dumbledore, then Neville. They gave Hermione all of Ron's good lines, they got rid of all the times Ron was cool-headed and smart. They also completely got rid of Harry's relationship with Dumbledore, all the good things about Dumbledore, so that in the movie I didn't feel anything when he died, but after reading it in the books I was inconsolable. I actually don't like the movies very much, but I have read and listened to the books dozens of times. Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them was much better, I enjoyed it so much more. Possibly because we weren't dependent on bad child acting, but also because the Harry Potter films missed out so much from the books that, as they quite rightly pointed out in these commentaries, by the time we got to the final few, they were struggling to compensate for everything that had been missed out.
Pedro Guerreiro ----And that super rule follower Neville STEALS from the teacher he is so terrified of--that Snape is Neville's boggart. Dobby who defies magical law, apparates/ disapparates and stealing wouldn't make him hesitate 'if Harry needs it'. Tho, Neville screaming "oh no, I've killed Harry Potter!" is totally adorable.
You left out the fact that Harry Ron and Hermione spend 90% of the last book under the invisibility cloak and or shape changed. Just about the only time they look like themselves is at camp, in shell cottage, by the vault and the last battle. And he still spends a lot of his time under the cloak in the last battle. And for a minute when they talk to Luna's dad, when they only hide Ron. Also I don't know if this is just the version of the book I have but didn't harry go to Tonks' Parents' home first and take a port key to the burrow?
Grim Reaper ---Yeah, and freaking over Andromeda looking like her evil sister. I get condensing characters & even situations, but just like the mirror is a big hole that they HAD to pull it back out so we could meet Aberforth.
5:00 "Childish anger"? Really, after the way they treated him the year before? They even sent dementors after him, to force him to do magic. I think anyone would have been pissed.
goblet: snape goes to voldemort with dumbledore's command, order: dumbledore's explaining the prophecy at the end, prince: snape was the person who heard the prophecy, hallows: snape loves lily and done everything as a cover. I think this aspect is the most missed aspect in the movie series 'cause we hate and love and hate and love snape by looking at these events. Also all sirius issue (mirror, death curtain, buckbeak, etc.), extraction of spew (it was a boring subject in books too but it holds a vital role with regarding crouch jr, winky, dobby, kreacher betrayal, kreacher comeback, hogwarts war) Extraction of dumbledore's funeral, 'cause it means that centaurs will give aid to harry at hogwart's war, no grawp at hogwart's war, no people of the lake, no testrals, not any magical creatures rather than spiders and giants, these are I can think as of now. but thank you all the same, it was a good series. but i think the headline for your videos are wrong, it should be "how did they adjust the books' main events for the sake of movies' screenplay?" will be a good one I think.
The thing I'm disappointed in the most is that they never fully explored Dumbledore's character, and thus made the King's Cross meeting, which was supposed to be the last great revelation in the series, kind of empty. I get it that they focused on Snape - his plot line simply couldn't be discarded, but I wish they'd completed Dumbledore as well. We never got to see all his flaws and mistakes that had made him into the super reliable master mind that he was known for. In the books, he was made human.
Personal favorite book vs movie moment for me is at the beginning of Deathly Hallows when they're all escaping disguised as Harry and in the movie version a random death eater kills Hedwig (lame) Whereas in the book she's trapped in her cage an the bus driver from Prisoner of Azkaban, who is revealed to be a Death Eater, blows up I think it was Hagrid's bike, essentially blowing the poor owl to bits! (Glad they left that part out of the film) Also the following moment when Harry uses his signature expelliaramus in retaliation, THAT'S what gave him away to You-Know-Who as being the real Harry
I have to admit that I liked the movie death for Hedwig better than the book (rare change that I approve of). In the book the poor dear is killed by accident whilst trapped in her cage. In the movie she dies a hero's death whist defending Harry (and it is her defense of his that gives the real Harry away rather than his casting "Expeliarmus").
Jorge Antonio Torrico Yeah, it annoys everytime I see that but I just try to think that the movies take place in the 2000s rather than the 1990s because that makes more sense.
Luca Gruber From the start of Half Blood, that's in 1996. Book chapters end May 2 1998 and books end shortly after 11 AM Sept 1 2017. Though I get what you mean,
I don't know for sure but I think the movies never mentioned the precise date (year) of the events. You only realize the exact moment in time where the story is suposed to take place when you see Lily and James' graves with their birth and death dates. Knowing Harry was one when they died the audience can easily conclude that they should be in December of 1997 (they visit Godric's Hollow on Christmas day). But before that (deathly hallows) we as an audience are never told in which year we are, so we just assume it's contemporary to the making of the movies (00s). There aren't any distinctive 90s iconic symbols. I think we could have allowed a change in generations, making them younger by a decade if they had changed as well the dates in Lily and James' graves. Put them born in 1970 and dead in 1991, and then the story can take place in the early 2000s. Now that was a change that made sense.
i personally don't like how they made the characters more adult. the fact that there still just children really shows how horrid everything that happened to them was. idk just my opinion.
also, i always liked book voldemort's death better too. he died like a normal person, the one thing he tried so hard not to be. in the end he was just another dead villain. but the movie made it this big deal with sorta takes away the idea that voldemort wasn't anything special at the end of it all
Rapid Rushing end of the movies is a month before Harry’s birthday. And also the circumstances that Harry has been put in would mature any child to a point.
Only in 21st C America and Western Europe is 18 still a kid. He's a young adult, and in previous generations 18 year olds were being drafted and volunteering to join the army (and other services), marrying and starting families. Now I suppose you're not an "adult person" until you're 25 and your brain is fully developed.
Quite important: in the end of the book, Harry uses the Elder Wand to repair his own, old wand (the one Hermione broke in Godrics Hollow), before he snaps the Elder Wand in two. This to me was a very bad change. Harrys connection to his own wand was never elaborated on in 7-8th movie. All they'd have to do was have one 10 second scene shortly after the reveal of the broken wand in film 7, where they tried to repair it and failed, and then add a 5 second clip at the end of film 8, where Harry uses the Elder Wand to repair his own, before snapping the Elder wand in two and throwing it away.
How I remember reading it (almost a decade ago), getting rid of the Elder Wand was nowhere NEAR that easy. If it were possible to repair or recreate the wand, one could "merely" defeat Harry Potter and restore its full power. That meant that to TRULY destroy the Elder Wand, Harry would have to go to his grave "undefeated" - aka never fighting in another magical duel ever again. That meant that he could never be an Auror, or he would constantly be risking the "resurrection" of the Elder Wand. One of the last great acts of "growing up" is accepting that you may not get the job you want or have the life you want through no fault of your own. And that that's okay. It may even be for the best.
Grizabeebles In the book, destroying the Elder wand was that easy. Harry simply snapped it in two. A wand cannot be repaired by common magic. The only known way to truly repair a wand, as told in the books, is with the Elder wand. Hermione tried repairing Harrys wand many times, but as soon as he tried casting a spell, it came out weak, and the wand broke again. This would mean that the Elder wand, once broken, cannot be restored, since another wand powerful enough to repair it, is not known to exist.
+Thomas Torrissen I agree that leaving out the repairing of Harry's wand was a stupid change, one of the dumbest that's right up there with failing to explain just who the hell the four Marauders were. Except I think you've mixed up the book with the movie. :) In the book, Harry does not actually destroy the Elder Wand. As you said, Harry repairs his own wand before declaring that he'll put it "back where it came from," so we can assume he just stuck it back in Dumbledore's tomb because he was confident enough in his own abilities to never be disarmed/killed in battle. Personally, I wish he would have just broken it in the book, too. :P It's one change I do appreciate from the movie.
FaeriichanII You are correct. I didn't mix it up, I just forgot what Harry did with the Elder wand after repairing his own (it's been a while since I read the books). I agree with you that snapping the wand in two was better.
TheCheck7 same I find it important that Percy comes rushing in (if im correct haven't read 7 in a while) and tries to get revenge I guess, for approval basically into his family. it's needed but too sad... rip fred
The saddest part of Fred's death was the pointlessness of it... like the death of a million other soldiers in a million other wars. By that I mean he didn't sacrifice his life to save another, or to hold a vital point, but they weren't even fighting at the time and an explosion kills him.
@@indy_go_blue6048 Rowling said no death was pointless. She said Fred had to die in order to show that Harry had people dying for him, something that Voldemort and Amos Diggory use against him. Honestly the only pointless death was Craig Bowler Jr at the hands of Delphini.
I mean the only main difference between the two is something I'm not sure of. I haven't read the manga and therefore am not able to offer any sort of information about it.
I heard that they didn't do it because they didn't want 2 big battles at Hogwarts in 2 consecutive movies. But that line of thinking was totally wasted when they but the final book into 2 parts.
the most shortchanged character in the films is Ron Weasly, most of the scenes that show him in a positive light were either removed or given to Hermione.
Leo Decap Maybe both? I was gonna say before maybe they're too old to have read the book but they've been talking about Harry Potter for 20 minutes. Been a long time since I read Ender's Game, no idea how well it aged.
Leo Decap Maybe I should re-read it, I thought I didn't have a copy of it but I just looked on my bookshelf and found it. Knowing about the end already might change how I look at it. I can't remember if I saw the ending coming or not when I first read it. Never saw the movie, though.
In the book Lupin tells the trio that Tonks is pregnant when he dropped by at Grimmald Place. Months later Harry and his friends are taking refuge at Shell Cottage where Bill and Fleur live. Lupin stops by and excitedly tells them that his son just got born. Lupin then tells them that he and his wife decided to name Harry as the baby's godfather. In the epilogue we learn that Teddy ended up living with his grandparents. (Tonk's parents.) And that he has dinner at the Potters three times a week.
@@melissacooper4482 there was also the part where Harry turns on the radio to hear about the secret rebellion and hears Lupin thanking him for telling him to be with his family.
One thing changed, along with taking the kids to safety, is that Slughorn shows up with reinforcements from Hogsmeade. And for my soapbox, I feel like this could have been a great movie moment. The defenders of Hogwarts are bruised and battered. Harry is 'dead', and the Death Eaters full army is there outnumbering the remaining OotP. Neville gives his speech, and as if by punctuation, Slughorn shows up with every able-bodied wizard in the UK charging the path from Hogsmeade and pinning down the Death Eaters. That's the moment I wanted.
You could do "what's the difference between A song of ice and fire and Game of Thrones". However, that would take an extremely long time, even if you only mention significant changes
The books are amazing. In Deathly Hallows I enjoyed Harry Potter's quest to find out why Dumboldore was such a mystery to him. Harry questioning himself was interesting and the fights with people watching was validating for Harry. Since Harry has gotten a lot grief for the events that happened leading up to the fight with Valdamort it was great that people watched. Poor Neville Longbottom he became such a badass in Deathly Hallows. He went through a lot.
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McGonagall: "I always wanted to use that spell" Thats literally the only quote from the final movie that i remember from a few years ago, when i watched the movies before reading the books.
It dispenses if you are going by movie or book order, if we are going by the order of the books you are right but if we are going by the order or the movies then lord of the rings should be first .
things I cannot let go 1. Tonks-Remus 2. Ron's reaction to Hermione being tortured 3. mystery of Harry's wand performing extraordinarily against Voldemort when he was half unconscious 4. Harry having brains and suggesting solutions instead of Hermione being the sole reason they survived. 5. Voldemort DIDN'T FEEL the horcruxes being destroyed.... he was not getting weak, before being killed by Harry Voldemort easily took on mcgonaggal, slughorn, flitwick at the same time, even after nagini was killed!!!!
Tom Tonks death? The duplicate coins in the Lesteange's vault also burned whoever touched it in the book. And Voldemort's name was tabooed in the book as well.
I agree with you guys on Neville, he was one of my favourite character's in the book and the disserviced him in ways that didn't need to happen, like the whole charging of him towards Voldemort and everything that happened could've been easily done in the movie but was merely glossed over. I would've loved to see Neville as a strong leader in the book.
The HBP film denied me the two most emotionally cathartic moments of the series. 1: Dumbledore tearing the Dursleys a new one over how they treated Harry all his life, and 2: Harry telling the Minister to go shove it. I loved those moments in the book, and I felt robbed. Also, without Voldemort's full back story, he is just a sulky kid and a creepy teenager. He's the big bad guy of the entire series! Fleshing him out as much as possible could never be a waste of screen time. Finally, the big reveal "I am the half Blood Prince" was NOT the point of that scene! Even as Snape was fleeing with death eaters and Harry trying to hunt him down, Snape is still teaching Harry the skills he will need to defeat Voldemort. The HBP will always be the worst film of the series. I wonder if the director had even bothered to read the books. ALL the books.
Also regarding the Elder wand, In the book Harry uses the Elder wand to fix his first wand before destroying the elder wand. There were a ton of changes from the books In the Movies.
He doesn't actually destroy the wand. He repairs his wand and then sets the Elder Wand on the headmaster's desk saying that he'll let its power run out when he dies of old age
I completely agree with your complaint about Neville in the movie! But to me... THE WORST THING THEY LEFT OUT was McGonnagall and The Carrows. Harry stands up for a teacher he cared about! What a great scene! As a teacher who reads these books to my class, this is one of the big times I get choked up. How they left this one scene out will haunt me forever, or well, whenever they remake it in a few years.
Biggest discontinuities between the books and films for me is the knowledge of the Horcruxes. They spend basically the whole of DH part 1 not knowing what to do, where or what they are looking for. In the HBP book through the pensive and discussions with Dumbledore, Harry actually knows all the Horcruxes other than the diadem (and himself). He knows about the book, the ring and they get the locket. He sees the cup in one of the memories, Dumbledore is convinced the snake is one and they discuss another belonging to Gryffindor or Ravenclaw, they discount Gryffindor immediately as the only relic Dumbledore can think of is the sword which he knows isn’t a Horcrux. They also discuss that it may be located at Hogwarts as Voldemort’s hiding places were all special places to him, Hogwarts wasn’t the hiding place for any of the others and Dumbledore had the memory of riddles suspicious visit to hogwarts. Finding them and destroying them was obviously a different matter but the movie paints it more as they don’t even know what they are looking for.
Yes, well, I also find it odd it can be snapped at all. If something so powerful exists, why wouldn't someone (perhaps Dumbledore in particular as it's previous owner, considering what his obsession with it caused) attempt to break it before?
There isn't that much to analyze though. They left out Tom Bombadil to save time, changed Faramir to be a bad guy at first so he has a character arc and they had the ghost army help at Minas Tirith as well. Oh and they removed Saruman conquering the shire after Sauron is defeated.
RobbieC ok, and i am saying once book 6 comes out then the whats the difference crew has a alot of work to do meaning 6 books, 6 seasons, and the books are bigger then the entire LOTR book trilogy so they have to do 2 parts per season
I'm honestly really surprised you guys didn't mention Fred's death at all. In the movie it was actually barely glossed over, with a small scene of the Weasleys grieving... that's it, iirc. While in the book it was a huge deal and from what I remember, one of the turning points for Harry wanting to go to Voldemort to end it.
Thank you! Neville is my favorite character in the books. They got a great actor in Matthew Lewis to play him in the movies, then didn't give him his major crowning character moments!
The movie also says the fetus/baby Voldemort thing thats in limbo with Harry and Dumbledore is a "piece of Voldemort's soul come here to die". The book implies that Voldemort hits Harry with the killing curse, both collapse and enter limbo (Harry as Harry, Voldemort as the weird deformed baby) and then both wake up a few moments later. Edit: I wondered if this was just my take on it, but JK Rowling mentioned this is what happens in an interview: scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/65526/what-did-voldemort-experience-when-he-fainted
The most significant change in books vs movies in my opinion is how Ginny is such a different and more interesting person in the books, for this reason only it's worth to read the books if you haven't.
In the books the horcruxes were shown to be meaningful objects that Harry needed to understand figure out where they were. In the movies, the horcruxes was just random stuff that Harry had visions about.
The only things from the books here that I personally would have liked to have been kept in are 1. the investigation into who the Half-Blood Prince is since it makes Severus's confession of it more satisfying. 2. Harry using the Elder Wand to repair his original one after defeating Voldemort, and then putting it away so that when he dies it will never be loyal to anyone again. 3. The full origin of Voldemort. This was by far the thing I wanted to be kept in the most because it give Voldemort's character far more depth and explains why he's incapable of feeling love since he was conceived through power and deception not real love. This in turn makes the theme of love not just a lesson the characters learn but an relevant part of the mythos, since it was Lilly's love for Harry that saved him the night he was born and the fact that Voldemort's parents never truly loved each other (or him) that resulted in him being unable to understand love. All this in turn makes their final showdown all the more climactic and exciting and make's Harrys victory and his choice not to use the Elder Wand mean a lot more than it did in the movie.
The filmmakers didn't short change Neville like you said. Yes they had to trim much of his story due to length, but they show him to be a hero. He starts out as a comic side kick who needs to be protected from bullies by his classmates to one of the main heroes of the series. In Deathly Hallows part 1 he stands up to the Dementors when they board the train to find Harry & tells them to get lost. In fact he rushes to the front get between the Dementors & his classmates, so he has to face them 1st. In part 2 he's responsible for sneaky the heroes into Hogwartz, & trying to hide them. Also, when everyone is ready to give up, when they think Harry is dead. Neville is the one to rally everyone to continue fighting, before they realize Harry is alive. Yes he's knocked out by Voldermort quickly, but Voldermort is immensely more powerful than him. It's like a high school senior fighting a heavy weight boxer of course he won't last long. Neville knew this, so the fact that he led the charge proved he was a hero. Also, while played somewhat for laughs wasn't totally played for laughs. In fact, it been used in several movie battles, I saw it 1st in Saving Private Ryan. In fact the comic element helped to break the tension a little. Remember in the past few minutes we saw the Hero easily defeated, the fact that Lupin's son will never know his parents, etc. & we still have about 1/3 of the battle left.
I enjoy the addition of the attack on the Weasley's house. I'm just about finished reading the series for the first time, and it always seemed odd to me that a big deal was made about how Harry HAD to stay with his terrible relatives because he was only safe there or at Hogwarts, and yet he spent his holidays at his friend's unprotected house. Bit of a plot hole made better by the movie scene.
The books remember that Harry is still a child. Which actually makes his eventual victory all the more impressive. The movies make it too easy for Harry having him learn magic overly quickly with no stumbling and have him mature so quickly that he has no flaws.
That was a great series cinefix, muchos gracias. I've seen the films but only read like two of the books when I was in my teens. I never expected to go back and read them but I've always been curious about what changed.
One thing that HAS to be made is a movie or even a t.v show about The Marauders!!! I need that in my life! Like we need to know about how they made the map and all about their school life
Honestly, the most annoying change to me was that in the movie they just started saying "You-know-who" and it was never explained. It was also never explained how the Death Eaters found them in the cafe. The explanation was there was a taboo on Voldemort's name, and anyone who said it would be hunted down and killed. He wanted to go back to when people were too afraid to say his name.
wait you didn't talk about how harry repairs his wand with the elder wand in the book instead of being wandless in the movie (ok not wandless but malfows wand suck ass)
muss ----I don't know about that, he still killed Voldemort w/ Draco's wand---I like the symmetry of Chosen One and disarmed Voldy's Chosen One. But I sure agree every time I see the end of Deathly Hallows, I think yelling at the screen will change Harry snapping that wand!
The movies left out a lot of little moments, like Percy's return, which really cut a lot of emotion from it. It's still a pretty good adaptation considering what most end up like.
Wel lthe fact they kept it so close to the book is the reason I like Deathly Hallows Pt1 much more than part 2 and probably than any other HP movie except the 3rd. One of the few things they added was the dance scene between harry and Hermione, and is just so sweet and sad at the same time.
I feel the omission of Phineas Black is quite significant. In the book Hermione takes his portrait from Grimald Place to spy on Snape at Hogwarts, while Snape uses Phineas to pinpoint their location and sends his patronus [a doe] to lead harry to the sword he had hidden. In the movie Snape knew where they were because... magic I guess. That bit has always bothered me.
I read the books just before the last one came out (I remember having to wait a few months for it to come out after finishing the halfblood prince). And I only could remember like 5% of what you said. I wish I remembered more of the books because I really loved them.
Honestly I'm glad that after six movies of being friend blocked by Hermione, Ron got a scene in Part 1 to be a proper friend to Harry. Even if it was just one scene.
There isn't that much to analyze though. They left out Tom Bombadil to save time, changed Faramir to be a bad guy at first so he has a character arc and they had the ghost army help at Minas Tirith as well. Oh and they removed Saruman conquering the shire after Sauron is defeated.
Everyone else has said it already but I'd love to see "What's the difference Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit ". Seems like the next logical choice. Plus I'm going through the books for the first time now so this would be fun to see.
Yes i know it wasn't possible to get everything, but I think the part where Neville basically admits he's in love with Luna was quite an important difference.
I think its really important to put more emphasis on how, while movie Voldemort died in a very spectacular and magical way (corn-flaking away), book Voldemort died with a thunk while his very mortal human body hit the ground. It wasn't magical, it wasn't dramatic, and most especially, it wasn't SPECIAL. He died surrounded by a hundred bodies of people who died just like him, because for all of his ambition he died exactly the way he was born and exactly the thing he hated, an unremarkable half-blood.
Do the movies let the audience know Voldemort is a half-blood. I know we find this out in Half-Blood Prince but I don't remember if it was in the movie. IF the movie did leave it out, then audiences are losing a big part of who Voldemort was since him being half blood is so important. Just some food for thought.
Angela Landgraf I can't remember them mentioning it
Thank you. It was such a disappointment for me that the death of Voldemort was changed in this manner. It changed the whole meaning of his death. The event itself should've been dramatic enough, in my opinion. And I also didn't like that they kind of took away Harry's achievement in this scene. It was one of my favorite scenes in the book when after his "resurrection" Harry faces Voldemort so confidently, as a grownup, and in the full knowledge that he now has the upper hand. I think it was a very badass thing and it was a shame that they took it away from Harry's character in the movie. I think that that flying around kind of battle between them made Harry look like he hadn't achieved anything in the last 7 years, like he was still much weaker than Voldemort, when in the books it was the exact opposite.
1. Rowling would agree with you. It's why she let them change the death in the movie. Not all great ideas come at once -- if she had thought of that then she would have it in the books. 2. I thought having Voldemort's corporeal remains lay there was a great vindication moment for Harry and the entire wizarding world as proof of an end to their suffering. To give them that feeling of working so hard for something and it finally being over. But, rather like Hitler's suicide, Voldemort caused decades of suffering to people he never even met and then suddenly his victims find out he no longer exists.
Seabass Cribel the question isn't about how long it took to find out how to kill him, it's about how important it was that Voldemort dies a mortal man. That, despite all of his murder, brutality, and terrorism, despite all the mysticism around him (people being afraid to say his name like some mythic boogeyman), even in a world's of living myths and legends, he was just a mortal man who died a mortal death. Nothing mystical, nothing magical, in the end he was just a corpse that hit the floor.
Still annoys me that Harry doesn't fix his original wand before he destroys the elder wand. Movie Harry is left wandless.
yeah same here, it would have been amazing if when they are at the bridge harry takes out the pieces of his old wand, uses his elder wand to repair it, then breaks the elder wand
This. This is the biggest omission in the series for me. Harry's wand means something to him, and it's just...discarded in the films.
I always saw it as allowing that last connection to Voldemort to die. Since their wands were brothers with twin cores, It seemed fitting to me that Harry would leave his wand broken in favor of starting fresh than to be sentimental about it or cling to it.
He would buy a new wand and him keeping his broken one wouldn't make sense!
Elliott Henderson He's somewhat rich; he could just buy another.
I personally had a problem with how they squeezed in Bill's introduction after completely ignoring him in part 6. -_- "Hi, my name's Bill Weasley, and I got this scar from a werewolf."
I also did, actually about alot of things that, sure, is mostly superficial. I appreciate the 2 last movies for what they are nonetheless.
No ones asking about how Harry did not fix his wand? Still mad.
Nightone I hated that. It almost ruined the whole thing because Harry wouldn't have just forgot about his wand like that
Exactly. I think it would have been better to just give his role in Deathly Hallows to Charlie, since he already was established in the movies. Bill on the other hand came out of nowhere for people who hadn't read the book. In the movies it wasn't even clarified whether Harry knew Ron had a brother named Bill or not.
charlie was my fav weasley (manly af), and he's not even in the movies. >n>
You left out one often over-looked thing that has a bigger impact on the series than you think: in the movie, Voldemort has the ability to tell when a horcrux is destroyed. In the book, there is a chapter from his point of view where he realizes he has no way of knowing when one is destroyed.
IMO he has no way of knowing that they've even been destroyed until he personally searches for them and finds them missing and realizes someone knows his secret.
IMO adding that part was a good thing as it shows that u can sense when a part of ur soul is destroyed that makes voldy falling after "killing " harry better explained.
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Except in the books it’s explained that Voldemort is so broken that he can’t feel it, so it’s a bad change
i thought harry using crucio on the Carrow twin after he spit in mcgonagolls face was a huge missed scene that was not in the movie. it showed how much respect Harry had for her
Yes. That was pure satisfaction.
100% agree I thought that was an iconic scene in the books
Everything between him and McGonagoll in the last book is awesome. They both get moments that showed exactly how close they'd grown over the years, without having to stop and explain anything.
I liked this too. I thought that it showed Harry's character to a great degree in my opinion. He was willing to use Cruciatus (on Bellatrix in rage in book 5, and on the Carrow twin after he insulted McGonagall - I also like his line there, "I see what Bellatrix meant...you have to really mean it"). He was also willing to use Imperius (on the Gringotts goblin, in the cause of the greater good while attempting to get the cup). But he never stooped to Voldemort's level. He never used Avada Kadavra, not once, not even against Voldemort himself, instead relying on the spell that had saved him so many times before, Expelliarmus. He wasn't willing to even use such an evil curse on his ultimate enemy. We even see other "good" characters in the book stoop to that level - in my opinion, the description that is given for Bellatrix's death heavily implies that Molly used the killing curse to protect her daughter, which actually fits in perfectly with her character of doing anything for her family.
@@Leonfei In no reasonable society nor in any western religion's Book is it murder to kill in defense of yourself or you family. (I can't speak to the eastern religions as I'm not familiar with what they have to say about it.) Molly could've used AK and it still wouldn't have been murder, though it still might have been unforgiveable in the magic world.
Dobby also got kind of robbed in the changes of the movies. He doesn't appear after the second movie and comes back only to die and jerk tears while in the books he's there in Harry's second, fourth, fifth and sixth years at hogwarts, helping him and building a friendship with him, and the emotion of his death is much more felt that way.
I never liked him so that was ok and also i didnt care that he died.
*sigh* Did you even read the books?
I cheered when he died. Hated the character (in the movies).
Pretend amnesia, Ghostlight X did you not read the books? Just curious.
@@drdre2641 they're very obviously immature children, of course they didn't read the books.
I will add one thing: the radio show produced by Fred and George is almost completely left out, which kills the tone a little bit for me. The radio show was a reason for the Golden Trio to keep on their quest when they began to lose all faith - they had family and friends they were fighting for, and if their family could keep going, so could they.
That's not left out at all, it's even part of Harry and Ron's fight
I understand the anger at how poorly Neville was done by the movie adaptation, but you barely brushed on Ginny Weasley in the whole 3 parts and the second movie is very much about her importance and she is mostly the reason that Harry comes back to life. Harry's main goal in life is to have a family after his was so brutally taken away from him by all of the deaths in his life. The Weasley's and Ginny are that family that he so craves the entire series and it bugs me so much that she is basically in the movies for like 5 whole minutes.
Also all of the scenes cut Harry and Hermione together and Ron off in the background like that ridiculous hug before he goes off to confront Voldemort in the last battle. Harry is the reason that Ron grows up and he is fiercely protective of Harry. This hug ruins both Ron and Ginny's character because Ginny is the one he walks past and almost turns back around for and Ron would have stopped him just like he tried to do with a broken leg in the Shrieking Shack during their 3rd year. Ginny is fierce and smart and deserved so much better, just like Ron and the whole Weasley family.
Yes but Neville is the other boy who lived and given the two plot points, his parallel story to Harry's is or should be more important that a romantic subplot in a series of novels that wasn't very much about romance at all
Ceares wdym “romantic subplot” The Weasleys are basically The family Harry never had. They’re one of the most important aspects of the book to Harry. They’re not just there for comic relief. You obviously didn’t read the books because you wouldn’t be shitting on the Weasleys like that. Neville has some significance but he isn’t as important to the series as the Weasleys are.
Still the love story for Harry and Ginny in the book is also rushed and makes no sense!
How can you fell in love with somebody so madly that a couple of years ago you cared so much little about?
And also, in couple of scenes in the book Harry was disappointed of her presence, or being on the team!
Come on Harry!
@@Ceares that’s honestly such a minuscule plot point compared to what we’re talking about.
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I think one of the biggest changes/ important differences was Peter Pettigrew showing sympathy at Malfoy manor, and getting choked. It shows some soul to the character and was a pretty graphic (mentally) of a scene.
Hermione would never let Harry sacrifice himself. I just find it OOC for her to. Hermione's the type of "nobody's going to die, we're going to find a logical solution", not "oh go die I'm fine with it".
That attack on the Burrow is something that annoys me as well.
Robert Gronewold ----With no explanation as to how that advanced the plot! That scene burns me up like that house!
So I know you guys aren't going over all the changes because there are so many, but there are 3 in particular that I feel are worth mentioning. The first one you did talk about a little bit was how the movies basically skipped all of Voldemort's back story. While I am all for giving Harry and friends agency I feel like it is such a huge disservice to Voldemort's character and Harry coming to terms with the fact that Voldemort is simply a wizard, just like everyone else (as also shown by him simply dying like a normal man instead of disintegrating like a fowl beast.) Instead these scenes were replaced by Twilight-esc teen romance. The second one I understand why you didn't mention because it wasn't super important was how Wormtail died. At the end he decided to let Harry and Ron go which then set his new hand to strangle him to death. I feel like this gave Wormtail more of a character arc that allowed him to be at least somewhat redeemed in the end. And lastly how Harry BROKE THE ELDER WAND WITHOUT EVEN FIXING HIS OWN! Like, I can understand if the movie decided to have him snap the Elder Wand, it shows Harry relinquishing power in an ultimate way, but they could have at least fixed his original wand first
A couple others... they had Voldemort backhand slap Harry... let that sink in... instead of showing the epic wizard Duel between Kingsley McGonagall Slughorn and Voldemort, Belatrix and Tonks, Lupin vs Dolohov, the house elves Giants and centaurs in the great hall. OMG whyyyyy.... They kept saying Harry was independent in the movies but that shortchanges the theme! The whole point is that he isn't stronger than Voldemort but he wins because of his ability to love his friends.... Anyone who knows anything about good writing knows that there needs to be a center theme. The first 5 follow the books' but they break away so awkwardly in the last ones.
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Also the fact that they completely left out the fact that Harry's intention of sacrifice forever protected the world from Voldemort's curses, whether he survived or not.
Evan Gray The biggest thing about not having shown Tom's backstory is that you don't have the feeling of remorse for him when he dies.
Voldemort was always afraid of Death, he couldn't come to terms with it. It's why he made 6(7) Horcruxes. To ensure he could never die. Conceived under a love potion prevented him from feeling love, and Harry even offered the chance of redemption to him.
Evan Gray Maybe I missed it, but I think they also didn't mention the fact that Dumbledore's sister Arianna wouldn't use her magic because she was bullied and their dad killed those bullies because her suppressed magic killed their mum.
Another huge plot device that was missing was the RAB mystery.
Pur9leRain In the movies they show the RAB mystery, then they ignore it until they figure it out later.
An important scene left out of the final movie, in my opinion, is when Voldemort offers Hogwarts one last chance to deliver Harry to him and Pansy tries to get everyone to deliver on that offer. This much happens in the movie but the difference is, in the movie, relevant characters (only) surround Harry in solidarity and that's that. But in the book, every student from every house other than Slytherin draws their wand on her instead. I feel the book version of the scene is much more powerful while the movie version is just doing what it can to save screen time, time which would have only amounted to a few more minutes at the most.
Nah, both the movie and the book version are terrible, the scene in both the book and movie have the slytherin's locked up in the dungeon, while the whole end of the movie/book has Harry telling his son it's ok to be a slytherin, I think the scene should have been cut entirely as it really gave mixed signals on the whole "slytherins aren't necessarily bad" plot point at the end.
TheBrownTown007 actually the Slytherins were taken to the dungeon because that's where their common room is ! They were locked up in their common room mainly because they would have to face their families if they fought alongside Harry and I think they would rather fight Harry then their families and Minerva simply coudln't risk that.
John Smith, that literally doesn't change my point that they were locked up, and no duh is it there common room, that's (pardon the pun) common knowledge.
Also once again, YOU'RE enforcing the negative stereotype that all slytherins joined Voldemort, especially with the assumption that most of their parents would be on his side, and assuming that's why they were locked up despite the fact that's not why they were locked up -_-
@@jessebrown1996 what can I say? I'm a Gryffindor 😓 no but seriously, In the books at least all the students who,in the moment, were ready to fight alongside Harry, pulled their wands so it's natural to lock the others somewhere safe and avoid disturb
John Smith No it's not, the whole ending of the book says slytherin isn't that bad but the scene still perpetuates that all slytherins are bad and would have turned Harry in, hence why they locked them in the dungeon. They didn't lock them in their for safety, do you even remember the book?
Ok maybe this only bothered me but one of the only things that REALLY bothered me about the book/movie changes is how the last movie didn't include the line, "It did for me." It's when Harry's son is terrified about being sorted into Slytherin and Harry tells his son (something he had never told ANYONE before, it says that) that if it's really that important you can CHOOSE which house you're sorted into. That he HIMSELF chose Gryffindor.
That's. The. Point.
THAT is what is ever present throughout the series, CHOICE. Harry's CHOICE to go into Gryffindor instead of Slytherin. His CHOICE to become a leader even though her never wanted to be. Voldemort's CHOICE to go after Harry instead of Neville. Dumbledore's CHOICES that ultimately led to his sister's death. Malfoy's CHOICE not to kill Dumbledore. And the list goes on...
I dunno maybe I'm alone in this but when they left that part out I felt cheated.
lol in the first movie you can clearly see Harry beeging the hat and then (if im not mistaken) it says "not Slytherin eh, are you sure ?" so the audience know that little detail which will make the line in the epilogue kinda weak and useless
Kaley Marie life is choices, everything is about choices. So that isnt really it
And then the Sorting Hat put him in Slytherin anyway...
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That's one of the things about the Sorting Hat. It always gives the choice in all other matters, so it is reasonable to assume that it will let each kid choose themselves which house to go into. It just teases them with the house it knows they absolutely doesn't want to go into, to make them state their choice themselves. That's always been my thought on it at least.
About the Deathly Hallows part 1 it may seem superficial but meant alot to me that the Dursley's didn't resent him as expected and Dudley even being grateful being protected from in the Dementor attack and confused about him now leaving them (seen in deleted scenes sure but that's Highly unlikely to have been seen by everyone) and Kreacher's change when he's treated well by Harry and his friends (he even stops calling Hermione mudblood, is actually jolly, cook and clean showing that even he had unkown depth to his character).
And the change about Voldemort and Harry's final confrontation is also sgnificant since it's about so many people seeing him die, proving he was mortal after all.
Another thing about the Dumbledore/Harry moment in Deathly Hallows is that in the book Harry is naked.
Doesnt change much I just think thats funny.
He was only naked for a bit, until he found some clothes to put on.
Epicosity780 Harry was only naked when he arrived. The meeting with Albus was after he was robed.
He woke up naked. Which is a metaphor for innocence. Meaning he didn't even know what clothes were. Then he slowly remembered the existence of clothes, and they appeared for him to wear. He didn't stay naked.
@@lizs5152 It was a metaphor for rebirth
"Come with me." "And leave Hermione? Are you mad?! We wouldn't last two days without her!...Do me a favor and don't tell her I said that."
Lunas Quidditch commentary though... XD
I looked forward to seeing Bellatrix simultaneously dueling Hermione, Luna & Ginny before Mrs. Weasley stepped in and eventually killed her in a much more dramatic and dangerous duel to the death. That was a very disappointing change.
I am going to argue against the point of Harry telling his friends. In the movie yes its a matter of trust, but in the book its a matter of sacrifice. Book Harry knows that if he goes to his friends, regardless of whether or not he tells them what he's about to do, he will lose his resolve and not go to Voldemort. It's not a matter of them convincing him against it, its a matter of his strength to do what needs to be done despite his emotional needs in the moment. Its more heartbreaking because it is the one thing he wants to do before he dies, and its the one thing he can't allow himself to do. By the movie making it about trust in friends, it not only took away the heartbreak of it by giving us what we wanted but couldn't have. Think of it this way, the whole of the story is about Harry becoming and fully realizing his role as the hero. That last sacrifice was all his own doing, knowing his friends would weaken his resolve. By making him talk to Hermione and Ron, firstly, it more emphasizes his relationship with Hermione than his relationship with Ron (I mean, maybe Ron is too shocked to speak, but they could have at least had a moment that was more of a look when this is the last time they'll see each other) rather than both of them, but secondly it goes against the theme of Harry coming into his own.
It was a book?
Nope, the "coming of age" theme never hit me in the movies, because movie-Harry is exactly the same character through the entire story.. Philosopher's Stone-Harry is actually the most mature to me xD
The scene of Harry telling to Lupin to go back to his family was pretty mature, that would be better for the movie if they were going for "Harry got this"
I dont understand why they put so much focus on this excuse. It don`t appear in the movies strongly, so if it was the reason they didnt build this well with the rest fo the movie, or (what i think is the true) are most pragmatic changes that can be interpreted that way but are not related to a coming age theme in the movies.
The fact that daniel in the last movies is not representing too well harty personality and is too much passive to pass the coming of age theme even it was pllaned could be another factor
one difference i didn't like was how voldemort was defeated. if i remember correctly he uses the disarming spell to well. disarm voldemort snd his killing curse is shot out and voldemort essentially kills himself. if i remembered that correctly than i have to say i prefer that far more than the dragon ball z style beam fight. also imagining voldemort just deopping dead was alot better in my opinion than him fading away. it also came about alot better because harry is even told to stop using it so much. that its becoming his go to spell. just liked it better. technique over pure strength. that is if i remember it correctly. if im wrong feel free to tell me.
No I've read it 9 times. You're spot on. It's terrible change physically, in terms of characters and thematically.
walter denny I was just about to bring this up! It's one of my biggest hates with the adaptation of the last book. You're right, he just drops dead with, to quote the book, "a mundane finality," symbolising that at the end of it all, Voldemort was just a man.
walter denny yeah and his body remains dead because no one wants to clean it up
i agree fully! his regular death was super important, as was harry using a more basic spell to defeat him
dbz style battles should be kept for over the top straight forward badass confrontation with different contexts. i despise it when they overuse it and put it just to make things look bombastic and entertaining just for the sake of entertainment.
it has no use putting there in Harry Potter other than to hype up audiences.
I don't care if it didnt fitted the tone they really should have kept the scene where harry found his mothers letter!! that is a book sin
sonicfreak04 And the part in the book where we see Snape take the last part, the one with Lily's love.
no it's not. you just really like the scene and that's all.
I hate that the movies tried to make harry grow up and be independent faster because in the books he's not at all. He's definitely not ready to go find all the horcruxes and defeat voldemort until the deathly hallows. his personality is completely different in the movies.
also the fact that the backstories of basically every character that isn't harry are skipped
While on one hand I hated that scene at the end of the fifth book where Harry threw a temper tantrum in Dumbledore's office, I also liked that Harry's "maturation" was being a teenage delinquent just like his (and Snape's) understanding of his father and the Weasley twins.
That's not a bad thing though, I personally like that Harry grows to be more confident and ready as the years go on. It makes his journey more compelling and it makes him feel like a character whos truly come a long way since that first year in Sorcerer's Stone. Obviously he's not ready to defeat Voldemort as a first year, but he's given all the tools he needs by the time Deathly Hallows rolls around and by then he needs to have shown that he has the strength and courage to do what needs to be done. Just because it's different from the movie doesn't make it bad.
I don't think they had time to give everyone a back story in the movies...
Well, if you had to face off with a three headed dog, a two headed man, run from a werewolf, almost get killed by dementors, battle a dragon, see a fellow kid die, see your godfather die, and see your best friends get hurt from a goose chase you led them on, all while you are not much more than a child yourself, I bet you would throw a fit and start smashing things too
Half-Blood Prince might be my least-favorite Harry Potter movie, not just because how much they changed from the book, but how the changes both take away from what I felt were pretty important revelations (in favor of stupid romance subplots) and how the changes, like the attack at the Burrow, makes no sense and feel ultimately pointless.
I agree that Neville was shortchanged significantly and the books do a better job of explaining and portraying why his character is so important. Per the books, it's explained that Voldemort himself turned Harry into the "Chosen One" by picking him to die vs Neville, since the prophecy only specified that it was a child born at the end of July, and it could have technically been either of them, something the books make very clear. And it's why Neville's backstory and his key part in Voldemort's downfall is more important and gratifying. This is the biggest change (other than the final battle between Harry & Voldemort) that bothers me the most. On that note, I honestly don't know why they so drastically dumbed down and changed the final battle. It couldn't be for time, because if you add up all the shooting and fighting between HP and Voldy, it would have played out just fine time-wise in the movie version if they had kept it true to the book.
Yeah. I agree, Movie Neville doesn't do anything notable until the last film(s)
Personally, I've never crad about. This whole thing, Nevile could've been the choosen one as well seemed to just a coold adding to the story, but nothing more.
In the book Harry tells Neville to kill Nagini right before he was going to the Forbidden Forest. In the movie he tells Ron and Hermione to kill Nagini.
Actually I don't agree that Neville was the most short changed character in the series (though I agree with the whole rant about the scene with the sword and porbably the worst cut from the books, the scene in the hospital with his parents). In the Goblet of Fire it's Dobby that gives Harry the Gillyweed, in the film it's Neville. Fot that matter I think Dobby is the most short changed character, several times in the books (that were cut from the movies) he's the one that goes to great lengths to help Harry. The scene already mentioned on the GoF, his the one who that warns the DA that Umbridge is coming in OftP, his search with Kreacher for Mundungus, amongst others... His death as a book reader is even more heartfelt...
Absolutely. The films shortchanged Dobby the most, then Ron, then Dumbledore, then Neville. They gave Hermione all of Ron's good lines, they got rid of all the times Ron was cool-headed and smart. They also completely got rid of Harry's relationship with Dumbledore, all the good things about Dumbledore, so that in the movie I didn't feel anything when he died, but after reading it in the books I was inconsolable.
I actually don't like the movies very much, but I have read and listened to the books dozens of times. Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them was much better, I enjoyed it so much more. Possibly because we weren't dependent on bad child acting, but also because the Harry Potter films missed out so much from the books that, as they quite rightly pointed out in these commentaries, by the time we got to the final few, they were struggling to compensate for everything that had been missed out.
Pedro Guerreiro ----And that super rule follower Neville STEALS from the teacher he is so terrified of--that Snape is Neville's boggart. Dobby who defies magical law, apparates/ disapparates and stealing wouldn't make him hesitate 'if Harry needs it'.
Tho, Neville screaming "oh no, I've killed Harry Potter!" is totally adorable.
sᏆᎾᏒm7uᏒᏦ So were Voldemort and the Malfoys.
sᏆᎾᏒm7uᏒᏦ SO much!
@ddam1320 Kind of, Yeh. That was pretty obvious from the git-go.
You left out the fact that Harry Ron and Hermione spend 90% of the last book under the invisibility cloak and or shape changed. Just about the only time they look like themselves is at camp, in shell cottage, by the vault and the last battle. And he still spends a lot of his time under the cloak in the last battle. And for a minute when they talk to Luna's dad, when they only hide Ron. Also I don't know if this is just the version of the book I have but didn't harry go to Tonks' Parents' home first and take a port key to the burrow?
Grim Reaper ---Yeah, and freaking over Andromeda looking like her evil sister. I get condensing characters & even situations, but just like the mirror is a big hole that they HAD to pull it back out so we could meet Aberforth.
5:00 "Childish anger"? Really, after the way they treated him the year before? They even sent dementors after him, to force him to do magic.
I think anyone would have been pissed.
Eric Taylor different minister
goblet: snape goes to voldemort with dumbledore's command,
order: dumbledore's explaining the prophecy at the end,
prince: snape was the person who heard the prophecy,
hallows: snape loves lily and done everything as a cover.
I think this aspect is the most missed aspect in the movie series 'cause we hate and love and hate and love snape by looking at these events.
Also all sirius issue (mirror, death curtain, buckbeak, etc.), extraction of spew (it was a boring subject in books too but it holds a vital role with regarding crouch jr, winky, dobby, kreacher betrayal, kreacher comeback, hogwarts war)
Extraction of dumbledore's funeral, 'cause it means that centaurs will give aid to harry at hogwart's war,
no grawp at hogwart's war, no people of the lake, no testrals, not any magical creatures rather than spiders and giants,
these are I can think as of now.
but thank you all the same, it was a good series. but i think the headline for your videos are wrong, it should be "how did they adjust the books' main events for the sake of movies' screenplay?" will be a good one I think.
The thing I'm disappointed in the most is that they never fully explored Dumbledore's character, and thus made the King's Cross meeting, which was supposed to be the last great revelation in the series, kind of empty. I get it that they focused on Snape - his plot line simply couldn't be discarded, but I wish they'd completed Dumbledore as well. We never got to see all his flaws and mistakes that had made him into the super reliable master mind that he was known for. In the books, he was made human.
I really hate prequels in general but seeing that they cut 150 or so pages about Dumbledore I'd be so game for a Dumbledore becoming the wise wizard.
We'll a Dumbledore story arc in the upcoming five fantastic beasts and where to find them movies which should hopefully be quite a good one
Personal favorite book vs movie moment for me is at the beginning of Deathly Hallows when they're all escaping disguised as Harry and in the movie version a random death eater kills Hedwig (lame) Whereas in the book she's trapped in her cage an the bus driver from Prisoner of Azkaban, who is revealed to be a Death Eater, blows up I think it was Hagrid's bike, essentially blowing the poor owl to bits! (Glad they left that part out of the film) Also the following moment when Harry uses his signature expelliaramus in retaliation, THAT'S what gave him away to You-Know-Who as being the real Harry
Dirvinator Well, the driver of the Knight Bus (Stan Shunpike) wasn't a Death Eater, he was just Imperiused.
But it was a random death eater who killed Hedwig, then Harry blows up the sidecar of hagrids motorcycle after it got detached from the main thing
Dirvinator
I have to admit that I liked the movie death for Hedwig better than the book (rare change that I approve of). In the book the poor dear is killed by accident whilst trapped in her cage. In the movie she dies a hero's death whist defending Harry (and it is her defense of his that gives the real Harry away rather than his casting "Expeliarmus").
Actually, in the movie, Hedwig purposefully flies in front of a killing curse. Her final act is to save Harry's life.
anyone else noticed that the last harry potter chapter plays in 1998 but they distroy the millennium bridge in rhe movie...
and the samsung ad on led screen when they scape the wedding
Jorge Antonio Torrico Yeah, it annoys everytime I see that but I just try to think that the movies take place in the 2000s rather than the 1990s because that makes more sense.
Luca Gruber From the start of Half Blood, that's in 1996. Book chapters end May 2 1998 and books end shortly after 11 AM Sept 1 2017.
Though I get what you mean,
I don't know for sure but I think the movies never mentioned the precise date (year) of the events. You only realize the exact moment in time where the story is suposed to take place when you see Lily and James' graves with their birth and death dates. Knowing Harry was one when they died the audience can easily conclude that they should be in December of 1997 (they visit Godric's Hollow on Christmas day). But before that (deathly hallows) we as an audience are never told in which year we are, so we just assume it's contemporary to the making of the movies (00s). There aren't any distinctive 90s iconic symbols. I think we could have allowed a change in generations, making them younger by a decade if they had changed as well the dates in Lily and James' graves. Put them born in 1970 and dead in 1991, and then the story can take place in the early 2000s. Now that was a change that made sense.
i personally don't like how they made the characters more adult. the fact that there still just children really shows how horrid everything that happened to them was. idk just my opinion.
also, i always liked book voldemort's death better too. he died like a normal person, the one thing he tried so hard not to be. in the end he was just another dead villain. but the movie made it this big deal with sorta takes away the idea that voldemort wasn't anything special at the end of it all
17 years old and that really isn't being an adult you're just starting to be one when in the movies them being 15 makes them play like they're 20+
Rapid Rushing end of the movies is a month before Harry’s birthday. And also the circumstances that Harry has been put in would mature any child to a point.
i don't disagree but he is still just a kid and still learning and getting more powerful
Only in 21st C America and Western Europe is 18 still a kid. He's a young adult, and in previous generations 18 year olds were being drafted and volunteering to join the army (and other services), marrying and starting families. Now I suppose you're not an "adult person" until you're 25 and your brain is fully developed.
Quite important: in the end of the book, Harry uses the Elder Wand to repair his own, old wand (the one Hermione broke in Godrics Hollow), before he snaps the Elder Wand in two. This to me was a very bad change. Harrys connection to his own wand was never elaborated on in 7-8th movie. All they'd have to do was have one 10 second scene shortly after the reveal of the broken wand in film 7, where they tried to repair it and failed, and then add a 5 second clip at the end of film 8, where Harry uses the Elder Wand to repair his own, before snapping the Elder wand in two and throwing it away.
How I remember reading it (almost a decade ago), getting rid of the Elder Wand was nowhere NEAR that easy. If it were possible to repair or recreate the wand, one could "merely" defeat Harry Potter and restore its full power. That meant that to TRULY destroy the Elder Wand, Harry would have to go to his grave "undefeated" - aka never fighting in another magical duel ever again. That meant that he could never be an Auror, or he would constantly be risking the "resurrection" of the Elder Wand.
One of the last great acts of "growing up" is accepting that you may not get the job you want or have the life you want through no fault of your own. And that that's okay. It may even be for the best.
Grizabeebles In the book, destroying the Elder wand was that easy. Harry simply snapped it in two.
A wand cannot be repaired by common magic. The only known way to truly repair a wand, as told in the books, is with the Elder wand. Hermione tried repairing Harrys wand many times, but as soon as he tried casting a spell, it came out weak, and the wand broke again. This would mean that the Elder wand, once broken, cannot be restored, since another wand powerful enough to repair it, is not known to exist.
+Thomas Torrissen I agree that leaving out the repairing of Harry's wand was a stupid change, one of the dumbest that's right up there with failing to explain just who the hell the four Marauders were. Except I think you've mixed up the book with the movie. :) In the book, Harry does not actually destroy the Elder Wand. As you said, Harry repairs his own wand before declaring that he'll put it "back where it came from," so we can assume he just stuck it back in Dumbledore's tomb because he was confident enough in his own abilities to never be disarmed/killed in battle.
Personally, I wish he would have just broken it in the book, too. :P It's one change I do appreciate from the movie.
FaeriichanII You are correct. I didn't mix it up, I just forgot what Harry did with the Elder wand after repairing his own (it's been a while since I read the books). I agree with you that snapping the wand in two was better.
Thomas T in the book he never snaps it he places it in Dumbledore’s grave/coffin
And Fred dying off screen, that was a disappointing cut, although, I'm not sure that I could mentally handle seeing it again.
TheCheck7 same I find it important that Percy comes rushing in (if im correct haven't read 7 in a while) and tries to get revenge I guess, for approval basically into his family. it's needed but too sad... rip fred
Cait Kinnamon It's Ron that tries to get revenge
The saddest part of Fred's death was the pointlessness of it... like the death of a million other soldiers in a million other wars. By that I mean he didn't sacrifice his life to save another, or to hold a vital point, but they weren't even fighting at the time and an explosion kills him.
@@indy_go_blue6048 Rowling said no death was pointless. She said Fred had to die in order to show that Harry had people dying for him, something that Voldemort and Amos Diggory use against him. Honestly the only pointless death was Craig Bowler Jr at the hands of Delphini.
It was partly for the movie staying PG 13-
Too many ‘realistic’ deaths happening consistently would push the film to R
You missed out harry saying goodbye to the dursleys!!!
Dudley saying that Harry wasn't a waste of space was one of my favorite bits in the book.
Raid Raptor yeah i reallly missed that because it was the first time dursley and petunia aknowlegd harry as a family member, it was so touching
RusselXJoyce troo
RusselXJoyce Part of it was a deleted scene.
Raid Raptor ya he did
Maybe an Edge of Tomorrow/All You Need is Kill episode of What's the Difference?
Movie Vs Novel with the manga as visuals. :3
I mean the only main difference between the two is something I'm not sure of. I haven't read the manga and therefore am not able to offer any sort of information about it.
The manga is drawn by the same guy who did the art for the DeathNote manga.
Kevin Pereyra Would love that! quite a lot of differences between em. I prefer Novel btw.
Kevin Pereyra Would love that! quite a lot of differences between em. I prefer Novel btw.
How about when Harry says "Voldemort" getting the Snatches to know where they are.
Can't belive you missed the battle of the astronomy Tower
THIS!!!
The biggest reason why The Half Blood Prince is my least favorite movie, while it possibly is my favorite book.
I heard that they didn't do it because they didn't want 2 big battles at Hogwarts in 2 consecutive movies. But that line of thinking was totally wasted when they but the final book into 2 parts.
the most shortchanged character in the films is Ron Weasly, most of the scenes that show him in a positive light were either removed or given to Hermione.
How come we haven't learned the difference between Enders game book and movie yet?
Maybe they don't want to watch the movie.
al145 but do they want to read the book?
Leo Decap Maybe both? I was gonna say before maybe they're too old to have read the book but they've been talking about Harry Potter for 20 minutes. Been a long time since I read Ender's Game, no idea how well it aged.
al145 I read it not to long ago and a lot of it holds ok
Leo Decap Maybe I should re-read it, I thought I didn't have a copy of it but I just looked on my bookshelf and found it. Knowing about the end already might change how I look at it. I can't remember if I saw the ending coming or not when I first read it. Never saw the movie, though.
you forgot Harry was the godfather of lupins son and that he wad there at the epilogue
Lupin's son is only mentioned in like one sentence when Harry's talking to Lupin's ghost. Just one of a million things you miss out on in the movies.
In the book Lupin tells the trio that Tonks is pregnant when he dropped by at Grimmald Place. Months later Harry and his friends are taking refuge at Shell Cottage where Bill and Fleur live. Lupin stops by and excitedly tells them that his son just got born. Lupin then tells them that he and his wife decided to name Harry as the baby's godfather. In the epilogue we learn that Teddy ended up living with his grandparents. (Tonk's parents.) And that he has dinner at the Potters three times a week.
@@melissacooper4482 there was also the part where Harry turns on the radio to hear about the secret rebellion and hears Lupin thanking him for telling him to be with his family.
@@melissacooper4482 grandmother only as ted died during the war.
They literally removed everything about lupin after book 3
One thing changed, along with taking the kids to safety, is that Slughorn shows up with reinforcements from Hogsmeade. And for my soapbox, I feel like this could have been a great movie moment.
The defenders of Hogwarts are bruised and battered. Harry is 'dead', and the Death Eaters full army is there outnumbering the remaining OotP. Neville gives his speech, and as if by punctuation, Slughorn shows up with every able-bodied wizard in the UK charging the path from Hogsmeade and pinning down the Death Eaters.
That's the moment I wanted.
You could do "what's the difference between A song of ice and fire and Game of Thrones". However, that would take an extremely long time, even if you only mention significant changes
Season 1 to 4 wouldn't be that hard to do. Season 5 would be really tough
Jacob Taber Preston Jacobs already has a great series that does exactly this, episode by episode
RobbieC I know, I follow Preston.
Lmao.
The books are amazing. In Deathly Hallows I enjoyed Harry Potter's quest to find out why Dumboldore was such a mystery to him. Harry questioning himself was interesting and the fights with people watching was validating for Harry. Since Harry has gotten a lot grief for the events that happened leading up to the fight with Valdamort it was great that people watched. Poor Neville Longbottom he became such a badass in Deathly Hallows. He went through a lot.
Where is the what's the difference for Game of thrones
yes
Brandon Anderson The title
Brandon Anderson look up Preston Jacobs on youtube, it's as in depth that you could possibly get
Brandon Anderson at least seasons 1 to 4, beyond that is pointless.
Not much
do any of the following
-The Godfather
-Forrest Gump
-Ender's Game
-One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
-Lord Of The Rings
-The Silence Of The Lambs
-No Country For Old Men
-Schindler's List
-It
-Carrie
-The Green Mile
-Coraline
-Mary Poppins
-The Exorcist
-Blade Runner
where is Peeves??
milica jovanovic ikr
Rik Mayall was cast as Peeves for Philosopher’s Stone, but was ultimately cut
Fun fact: not all editions of the NOVELS have Peeves, and some editions of the FILMS have Peeves. It just depends on when and where you bought it.
@@53prime
Link the movie with peeves in it and link the book without peeves.
McGonagall: "I always wanted to use that spell"
Thats literally the only quote from the final movie that i remember from a few years ago, when i watched the movies before reading the books.
What about when Mrs. Weasley calls Bellatrix a bitch right before she kills her
Lord of The Rings should be next! make it a 3 part!
Agreed
Yeasssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Agreed
I agree, but the hobbit should be first
It dispenses if you are going by movie or book order, if we are going by the order of the books you are right but if we are going by the order or the movies then lord of the rings should be first .
things I cannot let go
1. Tonks-Remus
2. Ron's reaction to Hermione being tortured
3. mystery of Harry's wand performing extraordinarily against Voldemort when he was half unconscious
4. Harry having brains and suggesting solutions instead of Hermione being the sole reason they survived.
5. Voldemort DIDN'T FEEL the horcruxes being destroyed.... he was not getting weak, before being killed by Harry Voldemort easily took on mcgonaggal, slughorn, flitwick at the same time, even after nagini was killed!!!!
Tom Tonks death? The duplicate coins in the Lesteange's vault also burned whoever touched it in the book. And Voldemort's name was tabooed in the book as well.
I agree with you guys on Neville, he was one of my favourite character's in the book and the disserviced him in ways that didn't need to happen, like the whole charging of him towards Voldemort and everything that happened could've been easily done in the movie but was merely glossed over. I would've loved to see Neville as a strong leader in the book.
Hey guys? You should really do Lord of The Rings next!!
that series would span across hours
+sonicfreak04 I know, but it would still be fun to watch!!
The HBP film denied me the two most emotionally cathartic moments of the series. 1: Dumbledore tearing the Dursleys a new one over how they treated Harry all his life, and 2: Harry telling the Minister to go shove it. I loved those moments in the book, and I felt robbed. Also, without Voldemort's full back story, he is just a sulky kid and a creepy teenager. He's the big bad guy of the entire series! Fleshing him out as much as possible could never be a waste of screen time. Finally, the big reveal "I am the half Blood Prince" was NOT the point of that scene! Even as Snape was fleeing with death eaters and Harry trying to hunt him down, Snape is still teaching Harry the skills he will need to defeat Voldemort. The HBP will always be the worst film of the series. I wonder if the director had even bothered to read the books. ALL the books.
Also regarding the Elder wand, In the book Harry uses the Elder wand to fix his first wand before destroying the elder wand. There were a ton of changes from the books In the Movies.
He doesn't actually destroy the wand. He repairs his wand and then sets the Elder Wand on the headmaster's desk saying that he'll let its power run out when he dies of old age
It annoys me soooo much how harry is just not at the Dursleys meaning he could just be ambushed and killed
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but the Dursley's protection ends the moment he turns 18.
@@indy_go_blue6048 17*
I completely agree with your complaint about Neville in the movie!
But to me... THE WORST THING THEY LEFT OUT was McGonnagall and The Carrows. Harry stands up for a teacher he cared about! What a great scene! As a teacher who reads these books to my class, this is one of the big times I get choked up. How they left this one scene out will haunt me forever, or well, whenever they remake it in a few years.
Biggest discontinuities between the books and films for me is the knowledge of the Horcruxes. They spend basically the whole of DH part 1 not knowing what to do, where or what they are looking for. In the HBP book through the pensive and discussions with Dumbledore, Harry actually knows all the Horcruxes other than the diadem (and himself). He knows about the book, the ring and they get the locket. He sees the cup in one of the memories, Dumbledore is convinced the snake is one and they discuss another belonging to Gryffindor or Ravenclaw, they discount Gryffindor immediately as the only relic Dumbledore can think of is the sword which he knows isn’t a Horcrux. They also discuss that it may be located at Hogwarts as Voldemort’s hiding places were all special places to him, Hogwarts wasn’t the hiding place for any of the others and Dumbledore had the memory of riddles suspicious visit to hogwarts. Finding them and destroying them was obviously a different matter but the movie paints it more as they don’t even know what they are looking for.
Was anyone else really dissatisfied with how the movie dealt with the elder wand at the end?
Draco491Central watched it a week ago and still don't understand why they did this
Draco491Central Yes. So anticlimactic.
Shahzaib Qureshi I know that, but now Harry doesn't have a wand
Yes, well, I also find it odd it can be snapped at all. If something so powerful exists, why wouldn't someone (perhaps Dumbledore in particular as it's previous owner, considering what his obsession with it caused) attempt to break it before?
I imagine he wanted to keep it because of that obsession.
Lord of the fucking Rings, please
LucaVideos Man yes
Too bad they're probably gonna die before they end listing everything omitted from the films
There isn't that much to analyze though.
They left out Tom Bombadil to save time, changed Faramir to be a bad guy at first so he has a character arc and they had the ghost army help at Minas Tirith as well.
Oh and they removed Saruman conquering the shire after Sauron is defeated.
Rhedox Good points, but i just need to hear these two awesome guys narrating passages from LotR.
Well, how about Gollum falling to lava out of his own madness, as opposed to Frodo murdering him in the movie?!
What's the difference: Game of Thrones/A Song Of Ice And Fire... It's going to be a looooong video, tho.
Carlos.C They're probably just waiting for the next book to come out, so it's gonna be a loooooong wait.
Carlos.C Preston Jacobs has you covered
6 seasons and 6 books, 2 parts for every book i bet making it 12 videos for them to make
hockeysong the problem is there are only 5 books so far
RobbieC ok, and i am saying once book 6 comes out then the whats the difference crew has a alot of work to do meaning 6 books, 6 seasons, and the books are bigger then the entire LOTR book trilogy so they have to do 2 parts per season
I'm honestly really surprised you guys didn't mention Fred's death at all. In the movie it was actually barely glossed over, with a small scene of the Weasleys grieving... that's it, iirc. While in the book it was a huge deal and from what I remember, one of the turning points for Harry wanting to go to Voldemort to end it.
Thank you! Neville is my favorite character in the books. They got a great actor in Matthew Lewis to play him in the movies, then didn't give him his major crowning character moments!
Yo but what about Teddy Lupin! I feel it would have been fair to mention Teddy (Why does everyone forget about Teddy?)
SuperHappyNotMerry you mean the werewolf guy?
Grainne Quinn The son of the werewolf guy
SuperHappyNotMerry son of lupin and Tonks?
Human Interaction Yeah
Well everyone always forget that Tonks is Osha the Wildling, so her son...
What's the Difference Lord of the Rings!
Carl Williams yes
God yes I would pay to see that
Too much lol.
Carl Williams YOU DUMB FILTHY MUGGLE
The movie also says the fetus/baby Voldemort thing thats in limbo with Harry and Dumbledore is a "piece of Voldemort's soul come here to die". The book implies that Voldemort hits Harry with the killing curse, both collapse and enter limbo (Harry as Harry, Voldemort as the weird deformed baby) and then both wake up a few moments later.
Edit: I wondered if this was just my take on it, but JK Rowling mentioned this is what happens in an interview: scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/65526/what-did-voldemort-experience-when-he-fainted
The most significant change in books vs movies in my opinion is how Ginny is such a different and more interesting person in the books, for this reason only it's worth to read the books if you haven't.
In the books the horcruxes were shown to be meaningful objects that Harry needed to understand figure out where they were. In the movies, the horcruxes was just random stuff that Harry had visions about.
The only things from the books here that I personally would have liked to have been kept in are 1. the investigation into who the Half-Blood Prince is since it makes Severus's confession of it more satisfying. 2. Harry using the Elder Wand to repair his original one after defeating Voldemort, and then putting it away so that when he dies it will never be loyal to anyone again. 3. The full origin of Voldemort. This was by far the thing I wanted to be kept in the most because it give Voldemort's character far more depth and explains why he's incapable of feeling love since he was conceived through power and deception not real love. This in turn makes the theme of love not just a lesson the characters learn but an relevant part of the mythos, since it was Lilly's love for Harry that saved him the night he was born and the fact that Voldemort's parents never truly loved each other (or him) that resulted in him being unable to understand love. All this in turn makes their final showdown all the more climactic and exciting and make's Harrys victory and his choice not to use the Elder Wand mean a lot more than it did in the movie.
I agree with the Longbottom thing. They short changed him big time and Ginny and harry too
because there are enough of THOSE to fill a vault at gringotts
TimRT Howard that's racist "ding"
Exactly!!!
The filmmakers didn't short change Neville like you said. Yes they had to trim much of his story due to length, but they show him to be a hero. He starts out as a comic side kick who needs to be protected from bullies by his classmates to one of the main heroes of the series. In Deathly Hallows part 1 he stands up to the Dementors when they board the train to find Harry & tells them to get lost. In fact he rushes to the front get between the Dementors & his classmates, so he has to face them 1st. In part 2 he's responsible for sneaky the heroes into Hogwartz, & trying to hide them. Also, when everyone is ready to give up, when they think Harry is dead. Neville is the one to rally everyone to continue fighting, before they realize Harry is alive. Yes he's knocked out by Voldermort quickly, but Voldermort is immensely more powerful than him. It's like a high school senior fighting a heavy weight boxer of course he won't last long. Neville knew this, so the fact that he led the charge proved he was a hero. Also, while played somewhat for laughs wasn't totally played for laughs. In fact, it been used in several movie battles, I saw it 1st in Saving Private Ryan. In fact the comic element helped to break the tension a little. Remember in the past few minutes we saw the Hero easily defeated, the fact that Lupin's son will never know his parents, etc. & we still have about 1/3 of the battle left.
I was surprised you weren't more upset by Harry not repairing his original wand. That is something I wish they made time for in the movie.
Ik it's supposed to be funny but I HATE it when ppl say that Ron only think about food >:(
Now please try a Silence of the Lambs WTD, yeah I know it's similar, but still.
FINALLY! IVE WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS!!!!!
I enjoy the addition of the attack on the Weasley's house. I'm just about finished reading the series for the first time, and it always seemed odd to me that a big deal was made about how Harry HAD to stay with his terrible relatives because he was only safe there or at Hogwarts, and yet he spent his holidays at his friend's unprotected house. Bit of a plot hole made better by the movie scene.
The books remember that Harry is still a child. Which actually makes his eventual victory all the more impressive. The movies make it too easy for Harry having him learn magic overly quickly with no stumbling and have him mature so quickly that he has no flaws.
That was a great series cinefix, muchos gracias. I've seen the films but only read like two of the books when I was in my teens. I never expected to go back and read them but I've always been curious about what changed.
I know its a TV show but you have done walking dead so what's the difference Game of Thrones?
One thing that HAS to be made is a movie or even a t.v show about The Marauders!!! I need that in my life! Like we need to know about how they made the map and all about their school life
Honestly, the most annoying change to me was that in the movie they just started saying "You-know-who" and it was never explained. It was also never explained how the Death Eaters found them in the cafe. The explanation was there was a taboo on Voldemort's name, and anyone who said it would be hunted down and killed. He wanted to go back to when people were too afraid to say his name.
The most unforgivable thing they did was omitting the book scene where Luna was a Quidditch commentator. That particular part was comedy gold.
wait you didn't talk about how harry repairs his wand with the elder wand in the book instead of being wandless in the movie (ok not wandless but malfows wand suck ass)
muss ----I don't know about that, he still killed Voldemort w/ Draco's wand---I like the symmetry of Chosen One and disarmed Voldy's Chosen One. But I sure agree every time I see the end of Deathly Hallows, I think yelling at the screen will change Harry snapping that wand!
The movies left out a lot of little moments, like Percy's return, which really cut a lot of emotion from it. It's still a pretty good adaptation considering what most end up like.
I would like to point out that not only Voldemort disintegrates, but also the devil herself, Bellatrix.
Wel lthe fact they kept it so close to the book is the reason I like Deathly Hallows Pt1 much more than part 2 and probably than any other HP movie except the 3rd.
One of the few things they added was the dance scene between harry and Hermione, and is just so sweet and sad at the same time.
I feel the omission of Phineas Black is quite significant. In the book Hermione takes his portrait from Grimald Place to spy on Snape at Hogwarts, while Snape uses Phineas to pinpoint their location and sends his patronus [a doe] to lead harry to the sword he had hidden. In the movie Snape knew where they were because... magic I guess. That bit has always bothered me.
Everyone is saying it, and so am I: the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit, man. You'd better listen.
Eric Wuebbels LOTR would be long enough in of itself but if you bring in the Hobbit, there's SO much extra shit!!
I agree, but that's the fun part!
Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit, though maybe do both the Ralph Baski and the Rankin Bass Movies as well into account
You guys are gonna have a field day with this: Do the Percy Jackson movies
I read the books just before the last one came out (I remember having to wait a few months for it to come out after finishing the halfblood prince). And I only could remember like 5% of what you said. I wish I remembered more of the books because I really loved them.
Honestly I'm glad that after six movies of being friend blocked by Hermione, Ron got a scene in Part 1 to be a proper friend to Harry. Even if it was just one scene.
5:18 I'm sorry wot? The ponci-ave? Is that how you think it's pronounced?
that's how snape pronounces it when he dies lol i laughed too. xD
What the difference The Lord of the Rings! P-p-please!
3 part series or split each movie/book into 3 parts? A 9 part series?! Lol
TheRonster9319 yeah i hope they do a lord of the rings one
Yeah Lord of The Rings could be a good one.
There isn't that much to analyze though.
They left out Tom Bombadil to save time, changed Faramir to be a bad guy at first so he has a character arc and they had the ghost army help at Minas Tirith as well.
Oh and they removed Saruman conquering the shire after Sauron is defeated.
Rhedox
Could be done with one episode, but it could still be a real good episode.
You should do Lord Of The Rings what's the difference
Everyone else has said it already but I'd love to see "What's the difference Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit ". Seems like the next logical choice. Plus I'm going through the books for the first time now so this would be fun to see.
Yes i know it wasn't possible to get everything, but I think the part where Neville basically admits he's in love with Luna was quite an important difference.