I see what bro was saying there he was really tryna get her off him but how he could have done it so easily is he shouldn’t have been talking to her at all 😂 real easy fix and that lil girl fast af she kept hitting at the armor and that nigga actually folded according to her they had phone sex all he had to do was deny that part and have an explanation for that and the messages would be weird but not as weird as phone sex
I don’t care if the age of consent is 17 as a 20yr I would never start any kind of relationship with someone in high school let alone sext with them. LOCK THIS DUDE UP NOWWWW
@@ahmed12345margh you acting like there's a massive difference in the ages 17 and 20 both young asl the brain ain't even fully developed yet bro still a weirdo but ion think he a pedo
@@ahmed12345margh you acting like there's a massive difference between a 17 and 20 year old they both young asl the brain ain't even fully developed yet bro still a weirdo but ion think he the p word
I know this topic is serious but whoever dissed the gf at 39:45 is a fucking menace😭😭😭 Homegirl caught a stray FOR NO REASON AT ALL💀💀 Shit has me crying fr fr💀😭😭😭
It doesn’t matter that the age of consent in states- the exchanging or the act of doing anything sexual online with a minor is illegal no matter the age of consent in the state either are in.
I get what you guys are saying abt her but tbh at 21 it doesn't matter what she does, he shouldn't be entertaining it at all. Chat saying "she is at fault" is crazy, it should take ZERO effort for him to not engage in this. Also if he was in calls with her that counts as CP, in ALL states the minimum age for any pornographic material is 18. EDIT: Even if they didn't video call, audio only counts as CP too yall. These comments showing me some of yall gotta be closer to her age. Once you pass 19 onto 20 and 21 what she's saying is literally gross. She can throw whatever it should've never appealed to him in the first place.
Yeah this fr. Shouldn't of continued talking ab when she realized. 16 yr Olds know you're not supposed to be doing this. 16 is old asf for a "child" that's 2 yes from being an adult. He weird for it but like she could've just ended their relationship b4. You're naive if you think girls don't know at that age especially when she texted him that.
And people were in his comment section like “oh it’s her fault because she’s young and kept talking to him” LIKE WHAT? He’s a full grown man talking to a 17 year old girl
@Jay1hope he's 21 calm down Bros 4 years older than her and she's at the age of consent yall acting like some retards even if it's weird bro did nothing wrong to them
just bc it’s legal doesn’t make it moral. chat victim blaming is absolutely outrageous cause wtf?? she literally explained why she didn’t think she was groomed again
@@Nitr056O so a junior/sophomore (depending on her birthday)in highschool w/ a potential college student is alright? the point is she was a minor and he’s a fully grown man.
@@mortaldeity1922 that doesn’t excuse wanting to hook up with and having esex with minors dude just cuz it’s apparently harder for guys to find girls the same age (which idk man my last two gfs were my age), it’s not impossible. T for sure had options and chose poorly
Situations like this where the victim is 17 is weird. Like, when you’re 17, you SHOULD have the common sense and awareness of the potential situation to not engage in talking to adults in a sexual manner. You don’t magically gain autonomy and consciousness the second you turn 18.
depends, though youre much more mature when your 17, trauma and mental health can severely impact how you have “Common Sense.” For example, studies have shown that trauma and poor mental health in adolescence can lead to limited or problem with brain development in your pre-frontal cortex or the part of your brain that makes decisions and how they see decisions themselves. People with a history of trauma and problems in there adolescence can have limited “Common Sense.” Studies show that these individuals are more likely to do things like gamble, do heavy drugs, and make just poor life decisions or have limited awareness to their situations . If im not mistaken the person expose tnickels even says they’ve had a history of being groomed to a degree, which could be probable cause for the lack of awareness or difficulty with pulling themselves away from their groomer earlier on. I personally think this situation is worse because tnickels himself acknowledges the weirdness of just blatantly sexual jokes towards his victim.
@@honourarymention I think she was a pretty mature 17 year old if she was in college for nursing Either way they are both weird whether she was mature or immature for her age
@@reozen17 Academic intelligence and Psychological Maturity only have two personality links, conscientiousness and openness to experience. i dont know the victim personally so i cant say much about this because i truly know nothing about their personal life or what they deal with and how they cope.
@@honourarymention Fair I was just bringing it up because if your smart enough to be in college for nursing at 17 and about to graduate then you should be smart enough to know not to be sexting an adult if you have been groomed before
@@reozen17 Youd think, and i would to, but manipulation, trauma and just how the human mind works is really bizarre and limitless with how it does things. It’s totally possible for someone like this to be groomed.
I feel like smth people don't seem to get is that IT DOES NOT MATTER what sexual acts the MINOR did in the situation. It's the ADULT'S responsibility to rebuff that shit and say no. For instance, if a girl has a crush on her teacher and she makes advances towards him and the teacher responds by developing a sexual relationship with her, that is NOT THE CHILD'S FAULT. Hope TNickels goes all the way down frfr.
Yes you can be 16 and have relations with a 40 yr old but if they possess any nude material of a 16 yr old is considered CP. ofc this is still frowned upon but yk, laws are weird.
Idk, the people who say it’s not weird must be like 18, max 19. I’m 21 and these 18 year olds be acting like literal children. The mental maturity in the short period you gain is insane. I can’t even imagine a 17 year old. People who grow up and keep liking 18 year olds are really weird. The law is the only thing stopping them from dating younger
@@vexingocir3154Because it's true lol. You're too close at 19 to see it properly. And I will probably call myself a kid 5 years from now cuz I'll grow up. Just like I at 21 probably can seem like a child to someone who's 30-40. Difference is the growth between 17-20 is HUGE.
It’s federally illegal to have any online sexual contact with a minor no matter the age of consent in their states. I thin he should seriously get him locked up or at least registered as an offender
They’re losers and can’t get women their age so they go after children that don’t know anything about the world so they’re easy to manipulate. They’re disgusting.
I don’t think a lot of people understand what grooming is. There is gonna be back and forth desires. ITS GROOMING. It’s not grooming if he has to constantly force it. You can’t speak on being groomed and how they think if it really hasn’t happens to you
"the action of attempting to form a relationship with a child or young person, with the intention of sexually assaulting them or inducing them to commit an illegal act such as selling drugs or joining a terrorist organization"
both guilty gets upset and realized she was groomed talks about it isn't her first then before proves that she was engaging in it also like they both guilty bro she's dumb as hell I don't care @@callenvy
The only reason as to why she was talking the way that she was talking is because he was sexual with her in the beginning, which then in turn slowly made her feel comfortable to be the same back to him. This entire stream was pissing me off coming to the end because everyone including Dontai had mild amnesia and totally forgot that he turned her towards the overly sexual person that she was when dude was showing "his side".
lol so she immediately got to see him being a freak and that somehow made her ease into it? that would only work that way if he was normal and nice at first and then slowly showed that freaky side.
@@josua3 that’s exactly what he did. She literally said in the beginning that he kept telling her sexual jokes, which was a way of him slowly chipping away at her defense until she started to do the same in return then all he had to do once that was done was steer the conversation until whatever he wanted.
@@ItzCheUltra it’s not about how big the gap is it’s about the ages. At 20 u are NOT thinking how u were thinking at 17. 21-24, 24-27, etc cool but 17-20 is a crazy difference mentally
@@ayogetajobfam she was literally say shit like I want you inside me and all types of crazy shit like not pulling out... Y'all making it seem like we defending his husky ass but she 300% was throwing bait also and his creep ass ate it up . If she took the shit the police they'd say the exact same thing situation like this are tricky in the laws eyes. The shit is sick but stop acting like this victim wasn't fully aware of what they were doing
@@bigsiah.you not getting what he saying. He’s saying even tho she’s throwing bait, if you aren’t a weirdo you wouldn’t engage. I don’t care how much a kid flirt with me, I’m not gonna talk back.
@@bigsiah. No matter what she says it shouldn't be appealing at all. It's literally nasty to hear that from a 17 year old as 21 for me. I don't need to "resist" anything cuz it's not it in the firsts place.
@@bigsiah. its not bait if you arent already a creep to begin with. also, idk if you watched the same video i did but she showed proof of him initiating sexual conversations, she just went along with it. as she said, she was groomed before. while a lot of you are obviously uneducated about the affects of grooming, i’ll gladly let you know since ig the age of researching things we dont know about before speaking on them are in the past. when you are exposed to any sort of abuse especially at a young age, you become more susceptible to that same abuse. thats with most kinds of abuse. grooming is specifically slowly getting your victim to feel more comfortable with you and slowly pushing boundaries until they feel safe enough that you can push the goal post further and further, making the victim now feel like this abuse is normal and nothing is wrong w the situation they are in. when you are literally groomed to believe that a grown adult talking to you as a minor sexually is okay, you are very much more accessible to that same type of abuse happening to you again. especially without any outside influences or enforcement. please research grooming and the affects grooming can have on a young mind before speaking so flippantly on something that causes an actual psychological shift in people
“Not victim blaming but” proceeds to question why a minor who was previously abused would fall for abuse again. Because they are a victim with maladaptive coping mechanisms, dude. Also, being “legal” doesn’t make things morally right, the age of consent shouldn’t be 16 years old. Also, the age of consent is sixteen up to 18. Being a grown adult and wanting to bang a 16-17 year old is pedophilic. I’m kinda wigged out he doesn’t understand this. Also also, 18 is the only legal age for distributed imagery. Images of a 17 year old girl are considered child pornography.
That entire chat was nasty, they kept blaming the victim as if she’s not a literal child with an undeveloped brain. She cannot consent to anything and still relies on her parents to live. Might have future Tnickles in that chat.
I never seen a victim tell their "aggressor" to give them backshots, have e-sex 9 times with them, or knew what was going on was wrong and still continued to do it. She isn't a victim. "She saw piss, she stayed. I see piss, I move." - Riley from Boondocks
It's videos like this that really show the contrast between his chat and the RUclips comments. It doesn't matter what the age of consent is in their state. The sharing of sexual/nude content is illegal for anyone under 18, across all states. Anything that took place in those "rounds" was legally considered CP. All he had to do was block her and go back to his girl. Or fw someone his age. As a 21-year-old man, wtf are you doing with a high schooler?
lemme finish the video cuz im only at the 16:34 mark but uh...the second she said that she was legal age in both her state and his, that instantly made her exposing him completely invalid. He wasnt grooming her nor is he a pedo. At that point its just a 3 year age diff between 2 legally consenting adults. Tryna call him a pedo for that when you're past legal age is wild. You can call it immoral sure but it ain't illegal for either of them where they live so...
Just so you guys know, the age of consent in your state only matter for physical acts in person. The age of consent is 18 federally and if you talk sexually with anyone online it is federal jurisdiction and you can be prosecuted. So yes he committed a felony by soliciting sex with a minor over the internet
@@mariwashereeee ya they call it the Romeo and Juliet law but even if what he did was legal nobody should accept his actions. It gives me hope that most people are seeing this as disgusting whether it’s illegal or not.
@@kingcharles2606 the Romeo and Juliet law doesn’t apply to this situation. This was all online and so it’s under federal jurisdiction. Their states laws have no effect
She deadahh initiated the freaky shit with him from the jump trynna set bro up n he eventually took the bait she 17 yrs old she knew what she was doin, she was NOT groomed@@kusx0635
@@kusx0635no he’s got a point here. I could fully agree w don’t victim blame if she didn’t go from “I broke down from realizing he was grooming me” to explaining how she’d been in the scenario before and is dead familiar with their game and even acknowledged the age gap herself. Yeah t is dead wrong for this no debate but there’s no real protagonist here either, just two piss poor choices one way greater than the other
Groom victims often fall on the same pattern of grooming, look for the same type of people (sometimes unconsiouslly), this is NOT her fault. I'm 23, I CANNOT imagine myself even joking to a 17 year old like that.
30:05 still weird to respond to that... that's almost like when pdos on TCAP are like, "but she messaged me first." Hansen: so you thought it was ok to continue the conversation?
@@Puppysarecute618you’re reaching just itching to attack not tryna here a single valid point. He ain’t even defend t by saying that he[t] still wrong and more wrong at that im a dumbass bruh “here”?
@@Puppysarecute618we can all agree he gross but he legally did nothing wrong. She’s coming at him now and even said she cant do nothing about it because she was over aoc. Blame the fucking state
y’all mfs victim blaming a 15 yrs old, now 17 year old.. for being groomed. the mental gymnastics im having to do to understand how a CHILD can be held accountable for actions/behaviors they’ve been groomed to be proactive in.he was able to make her believe it was “real feelings” and manipulation from the abuser leads to you feeling “comfortable” or obligated to do what she did to keep shit attention..it’s sickening. as i’m in my 20s now i’ve been where she is, she hasn’t “learned” to step away from it because of past abuse, past trauma. which clearly none of you understand can be a revolving door for some unfortunately to have courage.
To everyone saying it’s legal in his state cause the age of consent is 16 there ig. Remember at one point SLAVERY was legal. Even 60 years ago everybody thought it was considered normal and legal for a 30 year old man to take a 15 yr old girl as his wife. Just look at some of your grandparents and ask them how old they were when they met. I bet you won’t be looking at grandpa the same anymore. So just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s right.
8:20 nah dontai u would be surprised bro. Knew a girl who had a similair thing happened to her at an even younger age and they literally have this thing where going forward they beleive the age gap is desirable. When u try to explain to them that they are CLEARLY getting groomed for second time, they literally WONT agree with u at first. Its pretty sad
ok, both are wrong here. its the good ol fool me once its on you, fool me twice its on me type thing. she has experience with grooming and stuff, she couldve stopped talking to him. She also kept instigating alot of stuff. "we should create it" was her response to tnickles saying "w song" to her saying "we should get drunk and nasty". BUT tnickles was on some freak shit. talking about slapping his drake on her cavern. BOTH WRONG
the adult in the situation is wrong not the child. a child doesn't know better, he does. he knowingly manipulates a child who is probably already vulnerable to cater his sick sexual needs. he is no better than a cult leader manipulating his members into drinking the kool aid.
People are so quick to crudity without proper thought. As it was shown from his view she started it first. She initiated the romantical matters. 17 and 20 isn’t the craziest age gap. At 17 your able to perceive situations and know what’s going on. What 17yr old isn’t gonna go “your too old for me” unless they wanted to. While yes this dude is stupid for his choices it’s not like he groomed her, nor manipulated her to things she didn’t want. Depending on prior context the messages could be seen as jokes or something started earlier. If he was like 30 or something it’d be a different story. No one’s a victim and no one’s a creep.
Jesus, I found a comment with COMMON SENSE. Both 17, and 20 are young adults neither of whom can drink, but both can drive, both on the topic of college, and both trying to start a life for themselves, wherever their lead to.
Not even something id do, but what he did wasn't that bad. The fact people are saying "lock his ass up" when what he did was legal (The "CP" part would get thrown out in actual court) I hope people here realize what a "real monster" really is, watch Colorado ped patrol, where you have 80 year old registered, men trying to meet up with TEN YEAR OLDS, to use as THEIR SEX SLAVE. Its terrible, he's simply the bottom of the barrel when it comes to being a "pedo"
45:09 see this is why thierry is a w mod. when dontai made that face it instantly reminded me of the ishowspeed gif and a few seconds later i see thierry spamming that exact gif in the chat 😂😂
7:40 just realizing ur being groomed is insane. I feel like this person knew, entertained it but was going to reveal it eventually. We see this so often I would be surprised if she just learned what grooming is at the age of 17 and that’s what he was doing.
Thank youuu… aint no way… actin like dude forced ha or put a gun to ha head.. she knew wat she was doing.. and she was entertaining da bs.. both was wrong.. but after phone sexx??? mane nawwww she got common sense
I'm thinking she had a crush on him obviously by how she was "wanting" him multiple times throughout their conversations. And now she's back tracking for some unknown reason.
you obviously dont understand what its like to be groomed, what kind of mental state you have to be in, or the environment you would have to find yourself in to even consider it. so stfu and stop blaming kids.
not victim blaming , but the aoc is 17 where both of them live, she started it, she was saying mad weird stuff, it’s not like she’s a 12 year old child she’s a 17 year old girl who knows what’s wrong and right especially since she’s been groomed before , and calling him a pedo and groomer is crazy cuz of the aoc
Started when she was 16 according to her. And the sexual content was online which makes it under federal law where aoc is 18. If they were in person it’d be no problem though
doesn't matter what the aoc is doing any sexual acts with a minor online is still weird/illegal + he said there was sexual tension first and EVEN if she did start it he still went for it?? if he wasn't a pedo he would've corrected her every single time no? like y'all mfs are weirdos istg
it doesnt matter what she was saying, he still willingly engaged in the activity despite knowing she was a minor. therefore, hes a pedo & a groomer for saying the things he did, keeping it a secret & threatinging her to keep her silent. aoc only applies to minors engaging sexually with other minors, adults can never engage sexually with minors, no matter what.
People need to learn and understand that in some states, yes consent can be at the age of 16+. BUT if you were to be a 20 year old and do sexual stuff with someone under the age of 18, whether or not it was consensual, IT IS STILL ILLEGAL. It ONLY applies to people doing sexual shit under the age of 18 with other people under the age of 18. Once youre 18 and the other person is under 18, ILLEGAL. No matter how you look at this situation hes cooked. I agree she shouldnt have been allowing this to happen, and enticing him with sexual stuff, especially for as long as it did. But also at the same time shes not even done with high school yet, her brain isnt fully developed, shes a 17 y/o kid. She still has people (especially youtubers and/or streamers) that she will look up to and idolize. Point being that she doesnt know much better. I put 98% of the blame on the dude, and I say that because imagine if you were a 17 y/o boy in high school and a 20 year old Megan Fox dms you and starts doing this sexual shit with you, YOURE NOT GONNA SAY NO OR REPORT HER. You dont know any better. Its on the actual adult to know right from wrong, what to do what not to do, who to talk to who not to talk to
@@OwenAckerman907 You realize all it takes is the younger girl (or boy, but it usually happens more with younger girls than boys) to say it was something worse and I promise itll become illegal. Whether or not it was consensual, no matter what the state or law is. And whether or not theyre lying. Is that worth it even if it was consensual, in your or whatever state "allows" that? And not trying to make it seem like im comin at you personally or anything lmao, just as like a general thing
@@naceredba yeah, then she'd be arrested for messing around with you because people you're age don't know what's acceptable and what isn't. You're proving our point as to why this chick, along with yourself, would be victims. Also, I'd love to hear what your parents would have to say about you saying this. It's like that episode of George Lopez when that teacher who slept with a student got out of prison and moved into the neighborhood. Everyone formed a mob and went to her house and saw she was a women and then brushed it off and left, leaving Angie the only 1 making sense. Then, later in the episode they found out Max went into her backyard and they rushed over there, then the teacher walked a shirtless Max out the door leaving both Angie and George pissed until the teacher said "well, if I lured him in here, why did he show me a condom?" To which, the trouble switcher over to Max, leaving George to admit, I use to think what she did wasn't so bad, until I saw you walking out that door without a shirt and then I realized"
@@naceredba now, if you don't tell the adult your age then that's on you, as a bi guy, I can't tell you how many guys I've been with that admitted they lied about their age in order to sleep with someone older. If they know your age though, that's wrong, I know someone who dated an older guy at 16, they knew and the older guy took advantage and sa'd them in the middle of a park
The states age of consent only applies to physical acts done in person in that state. Anything online is under federal jurisdiction and states age of consent does not apply. The federal age of consent is 18 so anything online both people have to be over 18
why all yall trying to defend a groomer. i dont give a damn if the age of consent is 5, its still not ok for mfers to be dating kids who are still in high school.
When it comes to small age gaps involving minors, I treat it on a case by case basis. Something like 17 and 14 wouldn't be okay in my eyes since no 14 year old is mature enough to be dating a 17 year old (most 14 years olds can't even get jobs or drive, nor are thinking the same way a 17 year old would). For something like 17 and 20 it depends on the mentalities of both individuals, but I would never call something like this grooming or pedo activity since it's only 3 years which isn't an uncommon age gap at all and is not a big deal the older you get. I reserve serious terms like that for bigger age gaps like 4 or more years apart when it involves minors. I'd say 17 and 20 is an issue if the 20 year old is forcing the minor into stuff, or if sexting is occurring since that's always illegal with people under 18 as a federal law. This situation just seems like the girl got cold feet all of the sudden and now wants to make TNickles out to be a monster. TNickles certainly should have drawn the line at sexting though since that is a crime in america if a minor is involved, no matter the age gap.
It's weird y'all say that bc they started talking when she was 16 and he was 20. Her birthday just passed in that time. They're also online, so federally, it's a crime. "the girl got cold feet all of the sudden" Is this what people say to grooming cases now? The victims just got scared??? That's kinda how self reflection happens
15:50 Yes, LEGALLY he’s fine, BUT morally he groomed her. She’s a TEEN and he’s known her since she was 16. He wont go to JAIL, but he’s very creepy and in any other state the age is 18 LEGALLY. Yes, when she was 15 she was groomed. DUH she was even younger and immature. She clearly didn’t see an issue and decided this behavior is normal. Clearly that’s why she fell for Tknickles AND he have her “power” in his community. That’s extreme case of grooming. He groomed her and KNEW it was wrong. He expressed his guilt multiple times while talking to her. He’s done.
He’s not legally fine at all. He committed a felony sex crime because anything that is over the internet falls under federal jurisdiction and the federal age of consent is 18. The states age of consent only applies to physical acts in person while your in that state. Anything online or even facilitating a meeting across state lines falls under federal jurisdiction
it’s honestly both of them. the girl could’ve just left the discord when stuff seemed off or whatever. and why is he sexting with a discord mod. and why are both of them doing all this when they’ve met through discord 😂
Horrible take. She's a minor, he's an adult. In no circumstances should he interact with her in the way that he did. He's 100% to blame for this just by not blocking her and going along with it. Doesn't matter what she did.
That 19 second darkness was terrifying
Dawg I thought my phone was cooked 😭
my fault for putting it in
Into the void
We just got a free trial of death right there.
☝️🤓🤖
he gave ttickles time to reflect in that intro😭
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LMAO
he forsure had a “groomer discretion is advised” warning on the intro
TTickles 💀
TeenTickler
"go ahead and graduate for me" is beyond insanity
I see what bro was saying there he was really tryna get her off him but how he could have done it so easily is he shouldn’t have been talking to her at all 😂 real easy fix and that lil girl fast af she kept hitting at the armor and that nigga actually folded according to her they had phone sex all he had to do was deny that part and have an explanation for that and the messages would be weird but not as weird as phone sex
Graduation back shots? is wild ass hell too she probably said that shit the first time she got groomed 😭
College
@@Xxblade17middle school
@bruh5073 she was in college gang 💀
blud gave us time to prepare for the video.💀
😂
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Dontai has seen so many ppl get cancelled and yet to be apart of it. 😂
And it’s so easy to do too, just don’t talk to minors
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@@djcantskate3883ong
We touching minors with this one 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🐐
@@Chef_curry_30. yeahhh, “we” 📸
“Go ahead and graduate” oh hell naw
"Pre graduation backshots" double hell naw 💀
“Go ahead and graduate so I can fly you out” is WILD😭
nah that's desperation
bro was fiending for that shit he a sick mfk
graduate from college tho
@@thatoneentertainmentdevice2079 16 in college? Yea igh
@@masondauley17
Bro made a slide show like it always a class presentation
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Bruh those 19 seconds of darkness felt like i was gonna watch a documentary for a second there
I don’t care if the age of consent is 17 as a 20yr I would never start any kind of relationship with someone in high school let alone sext with them. LOCK THIS DUDE UP NOWWWW
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Lock him up for a 3 year difference lmao ask yo parents what there age gap is
@@doctorirrelevant2954 your parents are fucking full grown adults bro
@@ahmed12345margh you acting like there's a massive difference in the ages 17 and 20 both young asl the brain ain't even fully developed yet bro still a weirdo but ion think he a pedo
@@ahmed12345margh you acting like there's a massive difference between a 17 and 20 year old they both young asl the brain ain't even fully developed yet bro still a weirdo but ion think he the p word
bro put the “teen” in T-nickes 😭
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He wanted to put the T-nickes in the teenimsorrypleaseforgiveme
teen tickles 😭😭😭
they put tnickels in the teens
The state they’re in the age of consent is 16/17
I know this topic is serious but whoever dissed the gf at 39:45 is a fucking menace😭😭😭
Homegirl caught a stray FOR NO REASON AT ALL💀💀
Shit has me crying fr fr💀😭😭😭
It doesn’t matter that the age of consent in states- the exchanging or the act of doing anything sexual online with a minor is illegal no matter the age of consent in the state either are in.
I figured that too..
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Not how it works, bc if the age of consent, he can't get charged illegally bc that's what consent means other states its illegal but not theirs
@@nub_18doesn’t apply to exchanging of nudes online that’s federal law. It’s illegal state laws don’t apply.
Is she legally a minor in this case tho?
I get what you guys are saying abt her but tbh at 21 it doesn't matter what she does, he shouldn't be entertaining it at all. Chat saying "she is at fault" is crazy, it should take ZERO effort for him to not engage in this. Also if he was in calls with her that counts as CP, in ALL states the minimum age for any pornographic material is 18.
EDIT: Even if they didn't video call, audio only counts as CP too yall. These comments showing me some of yall gotta be closer to her age. Once you pass 19 onto 20 and 21 what she's saying is literally gross. She can throw whatever it should've never appealed to him in the first place.
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I think they just meant she was being disingenuous cus she aint a child, she knew what was goin on but kept goin. But its his fault 100% eitherway
Yeah this fr. Shouldn't of continued talking ab when she realized. 16 yr Olds know you're not supposed to be doing this. 16 is old asf for a "child" that's 2 yes from being an adult. He weird for it but like she could've just ended their relationship b4. You're naive if you think girls don't know at that age especially when she texted him that.
CALLS ARE CP? LMFAOOO
@@peakashura4329yes…
bro is cooked ngl 💀
There's no way outta this one
I think so too young man
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And people were in his comment section like “oh it’s her fault because she’s young and kept talking to him” LIKE WHAT? He’s a full grown man talking to a 17 year old girl
@Jay1hope he's 21 calm down Bros 4 years older than her and she's at the age of consent yall acting like some retards even if it's weird bro did nothing wrong to them
just bc it’s legal doesn’t make it moral. chat victim blaming is absolutely outrageous cause wtf?? she literally explained why she didn’t think she was groomed again
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Fr, bro is the type of dude to fly to a country where the age of consent is low af but will say "it's not illegal 🤓"
Oh wow a 3 year difference, death penalty 😐
@@Nitr056O chill with that sped shit my guy
@@Nitr056O so a junior/sophomore (depending on her birthday)in highschool w/ a potential college student is alright? the point is she was a minor and he’s a fully grown man.
What is honestly so difficult about talking to mfs your own age? Like people his age had to have also been in his dms right?
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I personally think he talks to all of them
woman generally like older men, and because of that fact, its harder for men to find women of the same age
@@mortaldeity1922bs. You can still find plenty of women your age
@@mortaldeity1922 that doesn’t excuse wanting to hook up with and having esex with minors dude just cuz it’s apparently harder for guys to find girls the same age (which idk man my last two gfs were my age), it’s not impossible. T for sure had options and chose poorly
Situations like this where the victim is 17 is weird. Like, when you’re 17, you SHOULD have the common sense and awareness of the potential situation to not engage in talking to adults in a sexual manner. You don’t magically gain autonomy and consciousness the second you turn 18.
depends, though youre much more mature when your 17, trauma and mental health can severely impact how you have “Common Sense.” For example, studies have shown that trauma and poor mental health in adolescence can lead to limited or problem with brain development in your pre-frontal cortex or the part of your brain that makes decisions and how they see decisions themselves. People with a history of trauma and problems in there adolescence can have limited “Common Sense.” Studies show that these individuals are more likely to do things like gamble, do heavy drugs, and make just poor life decisions or have limited awareness to their situations . If im not mistaken the person expose tnickels even says they’ve had a history of being groomed to a degree, which could be probable cause for the lack of awareness or difficulty with pulling themselves away from their groomer earlier on.
I personally think this situation is worse because tnickels himself acknowledges the weirdness of just blatantly sexual jokes towards his victim.
@@honourarymention I think she was a pretty mature 17 year old if she was in college for nursing
Either way they are both weird whether she was mature or immature for her age
@@reozen17 Academic intelligence and Psychological Maturity only have two personality links, conscientiousness and openness to experience. i dont know the victim personally so i cant say much about this because i truly know nothing about their personal life or what they deal with and how they cope.
@@honourarymention Fair
I was just bringing it up because if your smart enough to be in college for nursing at 17 and about to graduate then you should be smart enough to know not to be sexting an adult if you have been groomed before
@@reozen17 Youd think, and i would to, but manipulation, trauma and just how the human mind works is really bizarre and limitless with how it does things. It’s totally possible for someone like this to be groomed.
I ain’t gonna lie bro like dontai said. If you know it’s wrong it’s wrong.
I feel like smth people don't seem to get is that IT DOES NOT MATTER what sexual acts the MINOR did in the situation. It's the ADULT'S responsibility to rebuff that shit and say no. For instance, if a girl has a crush on her teacher and she makes advances towards him and the teacher responds by developing a sexual relationship with her, that is NOT THE CHILD'S FAULT. Hope TNickels goes all the way down frfr.
I know that the age of consent is under 18 in their states but im pretty sure sexting and sending nudes is illegal if you are under the age of 18
Ya you’re right. If it’s online it goes under federal jurisdiction and the age of consent is 18 federally.
Yes you can be 16 and have relations with a 40 yr old but if they possess any nude material of a 16 yr old is considered CP. ofc this is still frowned upon but yk, laws are weird.
Idk, the people who say it’s not weird must be like 18, max 19. I’m 21 and these 18 year olds be acting like literal children. The mental maturity in the short period you gain is insane. I can’t even imagine a 17 year old. People who grow up and keep liking 18 year olds are really weird. The law is the only thing stopping them from dating younger
Turned 19 this year and before that I wasn’t acting like “literal children” , 5 years from now you’re prolly gonna say the same bout 21 year olds
^ exactly what I'm saying
man I graduated at 18 and even then I ain't wanna date ANYONE still in high school even one year younger
@@vexingocir3154 well duh, I hope and grow and mature in 5 years. Hopefully you do too, you will see soon that you are not grown
@@vexingocir3154Because it's true lol. You're too close at 19 to see it properly. And I will probably call myself a kid 5 years from now cuz I'll grow up. Just like I at 21 probably can seem like a child to someone who's 30-40. Difference is the growth between 17-20 is HUGE.
It’s federally illegal to have any online sexual contact with a minor no matter the age of consent in their states. I thin he should seriously get him locked up or at least registered as an offender
These weirdos act like grown women are on different life servers.
They’re losers and can’t get women their age so they go after children that don’t know anything about the world so they’re easy to manipulate. They’re disgusting.
8:16 Not victim blaming neither but for someone so self aware how did she fall for it again
Yeah that part makes no sense
Like pre graduation back shots dawg?😟😟😟
I don't think she fell for it again; because she instigated EVERY sexual conversation. She knew exactly what she was doing.
She literally said she was a big fan and because of this, started talking with him.
@@MikeMulahMusicyeah she probably had a crush on him and is now backtracking for some reason
I don’t think a lot of people understand what grooming is. There is gonna be back and forth desires. ITS GROOMING. It’s not grooming if he has to constantly force it. You can’t speak on being groomed and how they think if it really hasn’t happens to you
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"the action of attempting to form a relationship with a child or young person, with the intention of sexually assaulting them or inducing them to commit an illegal act such as selling drugs or joining a terrorist organization"
@@aliaelamin917getting groomed into a terrorist organization is bonkers.
Dontai not understanding trauma is pure brainrot lmao
Chat was disappointing ngl
@mommatthew2756a bunch of them defending a literal groomer
@mommatthew2756 are we seeing the same comment section? like half or even more is defending his behavior
@mommatthew2756 there are comments defending him because of her age saying that she's grown and can consent which she can't
@@AngelleAnnie-cs1teShe can tho because she quite literally was the age of consent
@@MyDoggiesABullyshe was a minor.. she can’t consent to an ADULT
“Not to victim blame or anything”
*Immediately begins victim blaming*
"I'm not saying I'm victim blaming but --" proceeds to victim blame.
this one hurt but if you see the ss she knew what she was doing but at the end of the day he choose to still engage
They both fucked up
both guilty gets upset and realized she was groomed talks about it isn't her first then before proves that she was engaging in it also like they both guilty bro she's dumb as hell I don't care @@callenvy
@@callenvyyou really making some sense
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facts @@callenvy
Pre-graduation Backshots is crazy😭😭
T nickels disappointed me fr
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I used to watch him as well, stopped watching his streams a few months ago and this is how im reintroduced to this guy… absolutely sickening
Same bro, im kind of og too i wasnt expecting this
I woke up with a disappointment on my face
My whole time reading them texts had me goin’ “AYYOOOOOO” everytime💀
0:10 Jeezus dontai, SMILE!
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WOW
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WOW
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The only reason as to why she was talking the way that she was talking is because he was sexual with her in the beginning, which then in turn slowly made her feel comfortable to be the same back to him. This entire stream was pissing me off coming to the end because everyone including Dontai had mild amnesia and totally forgot that he turned her towards the overly sexual person that she was when dude was showing "his side".
EXACTLYYY
lol so she immediately got to see him being a freak and that somehow made her ease into it? that would only work that way if he was normal and nice at first and then slowly showed that freaky side.
@@josua3 that’s exactly what he did. She literally said in the beginning that he kept telling her sexual jokes, which was a way of him slowly chipping away at her defense until she started to do the same in return then all he had to do once that was done was steer the conversation until whatever he wanted.
@@yauminepaxtonyet she couldn’t block him? She was grommed ONCE but again?
@@TheTiredhermityes its common for kids who have been groomed in the past to be a victim grooming in the future.
who tf is Tnickles
Before the situation he would make tiktok videos reacting to funny stuff
I saw him on alot of clips on tiktok reacting to shit
@@lanceshadow7335 Yep he would definitely do those until he got caught up with the allegations
Dontai and yusuf type content fr twitch highlights reacting to shit
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its like i wouldn’t do it but 17-21 isnt that big of a gap, BUTTT at the same time hes insane for that graduation line. that was outrageous
it is when one is in highschool and the other hasnt been in highschool in 3-4 years
No it def is. 17-20 is prolly the biggest leap gap of all ages. The amount of experience and knowledge you gain between those ages is crazy
@@ayogetajob yeah thats crazy but if they were both adults then people wouldn’t see it as so bad
@@trill7402 4 years isnt that bad of a gap, JayZ and beyonce got 10 years apart and she started dating him at 18-19
@@ItzCheUltra it’s not about how big the gap is it’s about the ages. At 20 u are NOT thinking how u were thinking at 17. 21-24, 24-27, etc cool but 17-20 is a crazy difference mentally
They calling him teen tickles 😭😭
That’s such an unfortunate nickname to earn it’s so funny and he’s surely not escaping it anytime soon
Bro got that underage rizz 💀
😂😂😂
Bro made us reflect into our lives in them 19 seconds
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@CasualCat54this comment ☠️☠️☠️
The classic CUFFEM BUILDS
The girl kinda wild for that tho 😭 she was throwing the bait and he was gobbling 😭😭🙏
it isnt bait if you arent a weirdo to begin w. yall be exposin yallselves fr.
@@ayogetajobfam she was literally say shit like I want you inside me and all types of crazy shit like not pulling out... Y'all making it seem like we defending his husky ass but she 300% was throwing bait also and his creep ass ate it up . If she took the shit the police they'd say the exact same thing situation like this are tricky in the laws eyes. The shit is sick but stop acting like this victim wasn't fully aware of what they were doing
@@bigsiah.you not getting what he saying. He’s saying even tho she’s throwing bait, if you aren’t a weirdo you wouldn’t engage. I don’t care how much a kid flirt with me, I’m not gonna talk back.
@@bigsiah. No matter what she says it shouldn't be appealing at all. It's literally nasty to hear that from a 17 year old as 21 for me. I don't need to "resist" anything cuz it's not it in the firsts place.
@@bigsiah. its not bait if you arent already a creep to begin with. also, idk if you watched the same video i did but she showed proof of him initiating sexual conversations, she just went along with it. as she said, she was groomed before. while a lot of you are obviously uneducated about the affects of grooming, i’ll gladly let you know since ig the age of researching things we dont know about before speaking on them are in the past. when you are exposed to any sort of abuse especially at a young age, you become more susceptible to that same abuse. thats with most kinds of abuse. grooming is specifically slowly getting your victim to feel more comfortable with you and slowly pushing boundaries until they feel safe enough that you can push the goal post further and further, making the victim now feel like this abuse is normal and nothing is wrong w the situation they are in. when you are literally groomed to believe that a grown adult talking to you as a minor sexually is okay, you are very much more accessible to that same type of abuse happening to you again. especially without any outside influences or enforcement. please research grooming and the affects grooming can have on a young mind before speaking so flippantly on something that causes an actual psychological shift in people
BRO I been resetting ts like 20 times thinking my shit was buggin😭
“Not victim blaming but” proceeds to question why a minor who was previously abused would fall for abuse again. Because they are a victim with maladaptive coping mechanisms, dude. Also, being “legal” doesn’t make things morally right, the age of consent shouldn’t be 16 years old.
Also, the age of consent is sixteen up to 18. Being a grown adult and wanting to bang a 16-17 year old is pedophilic. I’m kinda wigged out he doesn’t understand this.
Also also, 18 is the only legal age for distributed imagery. Images of a 17 year old girl are considered child pornography.
ngl you stupid if you fall for this again
That entire chat was nasty, they kept blaming the victim as if she’s not a literal child with an undeveloped brain. She cannot consent to anything and still relies on her parents to live. Might have future Tnickles in that chat.
I never seen a victim tell their "aggressor" to give them backshots, have e-sex 9 times with them, or knew what was going on was wrong and still continued to do it. She isn't a victim.
"She saw piss, she stayed. I see piss, I move." - Riley from Boondocks
Exactly
That’s a very interesting perspective. The law definitely disagrees with you though
@@OwenAckerman907i mean yeah the law is the law but she in the wrong, just not in the wrong ion the eyes of the law.
@@Keyshawn13 I disagree
@@OwenAckerman907 he didnt say it wasnt illegal, he just saying the chick in question is a dipshit
I was almost groomed by some random guy when I was 16… you know what I did blocked him and never spoke to him again…
Ok.. good on you for being able to be safe. Not every teen/child is safe and KNOWS.
Gave bro a moment of silence 😭
Bro added that black screen to increase the intensity of the situation
Bro gave us time to think about the incoming video
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"They not like us"
“i’ll force my way in.” H-H-HELL NAW
It's videos like this that really show the contrast between his chat and the RUclips comments. It doesn't matter what the age of consent is in their state. The sharing of sexual/nude content is illegal for anyone under 18, across all states. Anything that took place in those "rounds" was legally considered CP. All he had to do was block her and go back to his girl. Or fw someone his age. As a 21-year-old man, wtf are you doing with a high schooler?
But if he had sex with her in real life, no crime would've been committed, but hes being labeled as p3do and a Groomer from a 3 year age gap stop lol
lemme finish the video cuz im only at the 16:34 mark but uh...the second she said that she was legal age in both her state and his, that instantly made her exposing him completely invalid. He wasnt grooming her nor is he a pedo. At that point its just a 3 year age diff between 2 legally consenting adults. Tryna call him a pedo for that when you're past legal age is wild. You can call it immoral sure but it ain't illegal for either of them where they live so...
The day I become a twitch mod is the day I know my life hasn't turned for the better
Just so you guys know, the age of consent in your state only matter for physical acts in person. The age of consent is 18 federally and if you talk sexually with anyone online it is federal jurisdiction and you can be prosecuted. So yes he committed a felony by soliciting sex with a minor over the internet
Plus even if the age of consent was like 16 or sum there's still a maximum age u have to be to even engage with said 16 year old
@@mariwashereeee ya they call it the Romeo and Juliet law but even if what he did was legal nobody should accept his actions. It gives me hope that most people are seeing this as disgusting whether it’s illegal or not.
@@OwenAckerman907 At 16 the romeo and Juliete age limit is 20, 17 is 21. It is not illegal unless he has cp.
@@kingcharles2606 the Romeo and Juliet law doesn’t apply to this situation. This was all online and so it’s under federal jurisdiction. Their states laws have no effect
@@OwenAckerman907 Of course, I was just addressing any misconceptions about the romeo and juliete laws.
okay i get that t nickels is in the wrong but what the fuck is the girl doing like bro just log off of discord instead of being in this mess😭☠️
don’t victim blame ☠️
She deadahh initiated the freaky shit with him from the jump trynna set bro up n he eventually took the bait she 17 yrs old she knew what she was doin, she was NOT groomed@@kusx0635
I don't think OP is. Honestly wtf was the girl doing bro. Like actually I'm interested in the thought process of both
@@kusx0635no he’s got a point here. I could fully agree w don’t victim blame if she didn’t go from “I broke down from realizing he was grooming me” to explaining how she’d been in the scenario before and is dead familiar with their game and even acknowledged the age gap herself. Yeah t is dead wrong for this no debate but there’s no real protagonist here either, just two piss poor choices one way greater than the other
@@djcantskate3883 but she also explained that grooming victims think bigger age gaps are normal due to trauma
Groom victims often fall on the same pattern of grooming, look for the same type of people (sometimes unconsiouslly), this is NOT her fault. I'm 23, I CANNOT imagine myself even joking to a 17 year old like that.
idm what he says, he is GROWN and he could’ve shut down the nasty convos🤦🏿♂️💯he COOKED
Lmao “ pre order” is crazzzzh 😂😂😂
the fact that dontai is missing b saying that trauma can lead victims to these situations is killing me
30:05 still weird to respond to that... that's almost like when pdos on TCAP are like, "but she messaged me first." Hansen: so you thought it was ok to continue the conversation?
Yeah, seeing a child interact with you like that should be the equivalent of seeing a large hairy centipede.
Bro gave us time to graduate before video💀
23:56 dontai you got me fucked up i got a lisp.....
Ngl both sides are in the wrong honestly💀
exactly she know not to be talking to grown ahh niggas like that too
Nice man everyone is wrong bc ofc she was a child and 17 and he was 21 but shes wrong nice peo stand up for your friend
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@@Puppysarecute618you’re reaching just itching to attack not tryna here a single valid point. He ain’t even defend t by saying that he[t] still wrong and more wrong at that im a dumbass bruh “here”?
@@Puppysarecute618we can all agree he gross but he legally did nothing wrong. She’s coming at him now and even said she cant do nothing about it because she was over aoc. Blame the fucking state
Ngl he always looked like he would do ts enyways
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"Pre graduation backshots" Was Insane ☠☠
y’all mfs victim blaming a 15 yrs old, now 17 year old.. for being groomed. the mental gymnastics im having to do to understand how a CHILD can be held accountable for actions/behaviors they’ve been groomed to be proactive in.he was able to make her believe it was “real feelings” and manipulation from the abuser leads to you feeling “comfortable” or obligated to do what she did to keep shit attention..it’s sickening. as i’m in my 20s now i’ve been where she is, she hasn’t “learned” to step away from it because of past abuse, past trauma. which clearly none of you understand can be a revolving door for some unfortunately to have courage.
Just because it's legal doesn't make it ok.
To everyone saying it’s legal in his state cause the age of consent is 16 there ig. Remember at one point SLAVERY was legal. Even 60 years ago everybody thought it was considered normal and legal for a 30 year old man to take a 15 yr old girl as his wife. Just look at some of your grandparents and ask them how old they were when they met. I bet you won’t be looking at grandpa the same anymore. So just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s right.
"i wanna hear both sides" proceeds to pause T's video every second so he can talk shit abt him and not let him explain anything
8:20 nah dontai u would be surprised bro. Knew a girl who had a similair thing happened to her at an even younger age and they literally have this thing where going forward they beleive the age gap is desirable. When u try to explain to them that they are CLEARLY getting groomed for second time, they literally WONT agree with u at first. Its pretty sad
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the 19 seconds of darkness made me think my internet turned off ☠
I just think it’s crazy how the girl didn’t care at first and that the age didn’t seem like it was why he did the dumb shit he did but yikes
she literally answered that in the first seconds of her video she said she did that because what he said about talking to 17 years old
4:42 I skipped 10 seconds and got flashbanged
ok, both are wrong here. its the good ol fool me once its on you, fool me twice its on me type thing. she has experience with grooming and stuff, she couldve stopped talking to him. She also kept instigating alot of stuff. "we should create it" was her response to tnickles saying "w song" to her saying "we should get drunk and nasty". BUT tnickles was on some freak shit. talking about slapping his drake on her cavern. BOTH WRONG
But legally he committed a felony sex crime and she didn’t so there are levels to the wrong
the adult in the situation is wrong not the child. a child doesn't know better, he does. he knowingly manipulates a child who is probably already vulnerable to cater his sick sexual needs. he is no better than a cult leader manipulating his members into drinking the kool aid.
bro gave us a moment of silence
People are so quick to crudity without proper thought. As it was shown from his view she started it first. She initiated the romantical matters. 17 and 20 isn’t the craziest age gap. At 17 your able to perceive situations and know what’s going on. What 17yr old isn’t gonna go “your too old for me” unless they wanted to. While yes this dude is stupid for his choices it’s not like he groomed her, nor manipulated her to things she didn’t want. Depending on prior context the messages could be seen as jokes or something started earlier. If he was like 30 or something it’d be a different story. No one’s a victim and no one’s a creep.
Not to mention SHES IN COLLEGE
Jesus, I found a comment with COMMON SENSE. Both 17, and 20 are young adults neither of whom can drink, but both can drive, both on the topic of college, and both trying to start a life for themselves, wherever their lead to.
Not even something id do, but what he did wasn't that bad. The fact people are saying "lock his ass up" when what he did was legal (The "CP" part would get thrown out in actual court) I hope people here realize what a "real monster" really is, watch Colorado ped patrol, where you have 80 year old registered, men trying to meet up with TEN YEAR OLDS, to use as THEIR SEX SLAVE. Its terrible, he's simply the bottom of the barrel when it comes to being a "pedo"
“Why is everybody into kids?” is a sentence I never thought I would hear😭
Tae2Smooth up next, im predicting
45:09 see this is why thierry is a w mod. when dontai made that face it instantly reminded me of the ishowspeed gif and a few seconds later i see thierry spamming that exact gif in the chat 😂😂
7:40 just realizing ur being groomed is insane. I feel like this person knew, entertained it but was going to reveal it eventually. We see this so often I would be surprised if she just learned what grooming is at the age of 17 and that’s what he was doing.
Thank youuu… aint no way… actin like dude forced ha or put a gun to ha head.. she knew wat she was doing.. and she was entertaining da bs.. both was wrong.. but after phone sexx??? mane nawwww she got common sense
I'm thinking she had a crush on him obviously by how she was "wanting" him multiple times throughout their conversations. And now she's back tracking for some unknown reason.
you obviously dont understand what its like to be groomed, what kind of mental state you have to be in, or the environment you would have to find yourself in to even consider it. so stfu and stop blaming kids.
Would you do this with a 16 year old if she wanted you??
@@PineApple-rw3qv no wtf 💀💀💀
tell me why i thought this dude was gonna jumpscare us on some "TF YOU LOOKIN AT"
not victim blaming , but the aoc is 17 where both of them live, she started it, she was saying mad weird stuff, it’s not like she’s a 12 year old child she’s a 17 year old girl who knows what’s wrong and right especially since she’s been groomed before , and calling him a pedo and groomer is crazy cuz of the aoc
Started when she was 16 according to her. And the sexual content was online which makes it under federal law where aoc is 18. If they were in person it’d be no problem though
doesn't matter what the aoc is doing any sexual acts with a minor online is still weird/illegal + he said there was sexual tension first and EVEN if she did start it he still went for it?? if he wasn't a pedo he would've corrected her every single time no? like y'all mfs are weirdos istg
it doesnt matter what she was saying, he still willingly engaged in the activity despite knowing she was a minor. therefore, hes a pedo & a groomer for saying the things he did, keeping it a secret & threatinging her to keep her silent. aoc only applies to minors engaging sexually with other minors, adults can never engage sexually with minors, no matter what.
@@zoegreer3247 that's not true because then she'd have a case, this would immediately be thrown away
@@tjay2586 she never went to the police about it. If she did, there would be
"ur fossil age and I'm 17" lmaoooooo honey wait till you realize you turn 21 in 4 years...
People need to learn and understand that in some states, yes consent can be at the age of 16+. BUT if you were to be a 20 year old and do sexual stuff with someone under the age of 18, whether or not it was consensual, IT IS STILL ILLEGAL. It ONLY applies to people doing sexual shit under the age of 18 with other people under the age of 18. Once youre 18 and the other person is under 18, ILLEGAL. No matter how you look at this situation hes cooked. I agree she shouldnt have been allowing this to happen, and enticing him with sexual stuff, especially for as long as it did. But also at the same time shes not even done with high school yet, her brain isnt fully developed, shes a 17 y/o kid. She still has people (especially youtubers and/or streamers) that she will look up to and idolize. Point being that she doesnt know much better. I put 98% of the blame on the dude, and I say that because imagine if you were a 17 y/o boy in high school and a 20 year old Megan Fox dms you and starts doing this sexual shit with you, YOURE NOT GONNA SAY NO OR REPORT HER. You dont know any better. Its on the actual adult to know right from wrong, what to do what not to do, who to talk to who not to talk to
It's online so it's federal and federal age of consent is 18
@@OwenAckerman907 You realize all it takes is the younger girl (or boy, but it usually happens more with younger girls than boys) to say it was something worse and I promise itll become illegal. Whether or not it was consensual, no matter what the state or law is. And whether or not theyre lying. Is that worth it even if it was consensual, in your or whatever state "allows" that? And not trying to make it seem like im comin at you personally or anything lmao, just as like a general thing
20 and 17? He's like a fanta lite perv lmao 😂
you should put edits or jumpcuts in your videos man no hate this video funny😂❤
a 20y old women texts a 17y old guy, all of society wowww thats lit
Roles switch also all of society 🤬🤬🤬🤬
BTW this still fkd either way
It's the guys that be saying "i wish that was me" when that happens though
It's messed up even when the roles are reversed
@@dal1947nah i'd be cool with a 20 yo woman talking to me
@@naceredba yeah, then she'd be arrested for messing around with you because people you're age don't know what's acceptable and what isn't. You're proving our point as to why this chick, along with yourself, would be victims. Also, I'd love to hear what your parents would have to say about you saying this. It's like that episode of George Lopez when that teacher who slept with a student got out of prison and moved into the neighborhood. Everyone formed a mob and went to her house and saw she was a women and then brushed it off and left, leaving Angie the only 1 making sense. Then, later in the episode they found out Max went into her backyard and they rushed over there, then the teacher walked a shirtless Max out the door leaving both Angie and George pissed until the teacher said "well, if I lured him in here, why did he show me a condom?" To which, the trouble switcher over to Max, leaving George to admit, I use to think what she did wasn't so bad, until I saw you walking out that door without a shirt and then I realized"
@@naceredba now, if you don't tell the adult your age then that's on you, as a bi guy, I can't tell you how many guys I've been with that admitted they lied about their age in order to sleep with someone older. If they know your age though, that's wrong, I know someone who dated an older guy at 16, they knew and the older guy took advantage and sa'd them in the middle of a park
Nah the victim weird af too, i swear these victims be guilty too
Noooooo not T Nickels 😭😭. Dontai my only streamer left. Pls don’t pull a Bill Cosby on us. We love you bro. Keep up the grind
They caught teentickles
16-17 is literally the age of consent in most states bruh and t nickles is only 20 not like hes 25-30.
The states age of consent only applies to physical acts done in person in that state. Anything online is under federal jurisdiction and states age of consent does not apply. The federal age of consent is 18 so anything online both people have to be over 18
why all yall trying to defend a groomer. i dont give a damn if the age of consent is 5, its still not ok for mfers to be dating kids who are still in high school.
@@seeme._.I thought she was in college
@@sirtalentless2548 she is
@@tjay2586 wow this situation is dumb
Foo idgaf what the law is or what state it is. 18 and up only and if you 20 or older you shoulda been understood that fuck that weird shit
Nah frl and everybody in the comments trying to defend his ahh 😂😂
Bro I'm thankful I saw this. People in the comments talkin crazy.
The girlfriend catching a stray had me in tears.
Bro actually preordered💀
Preorder is crazy 💀
When it comes to small age gaps involving minors, I treat it on a case by case basis. Something like 17 and 14 wouldn't be okay in my eyes since no 14 year old is mature enough to be dating a 17 year old (most 14 years olds can't even get jobs or drive, nor are thinking the same way a 17 year old would).
For something like 17 and 20 it depends on the mentalities of both individuals, but I would never call something like this grooming or pedo activity since it's only 3 years which isn't an uncommon age gap at all and is not a big deal the older you get. I reserve serious terms like that for bigger age gaps like 4 or more years apart when it involves minors. I'd say 17 and 20 is an issue if the 20 year old is forcing the minor into stuff, or if sexting is occurring since that's always illegal with people under 18 as a federal law. This situation just seems like the girl got cold feet all of the sudden and now wants to make TNickles out to be a monster. TNickles certainly should have drawn the line at sexting though since that is a crime in america if a minor is involved, no matter the age gap.
It's weird y'all say that bc they started talking when she was 16 and he was 20. Her birthday just passed in that time. They're also online, so federally, it's a crime. "the girl got cold feet all of the sudden" Is this what people say to grooming cases now? The victims just got scared??? That's kinda how self reflection happens
7 minutes to 50 minutes is crazy work tai 😭😭
15:50 Yes, LEGALLY he’s fine, BUT morally he groomed her. She’s a TEEN and he’s known her since she was 16. He wont go to JAIL, but he’s very creepy and in any other state the age is 18 LEGALLY. Yes, when she was 15 she was groomed. DUH she was even younger and immature. She clearly didn’t see an issue and decided this behavior is normal. Clearly that’s why she fell for Tknickles AND he have her “power” in his community. That’s extreme case of grooming. He groomed her and KNEW it was wrong. He expressed his guilt multiple times while talking to her. He’s done.
eh, its all about the person. tell an colombian person that a 13yo twerking is bad, and they will look at you like you are stupid.
He’s not legally fine at all. He committed a felony sex crime because anything that is over the internet falls under federal jurisdiction and the federal age of consent is 18. The states age of consent only applies to physical acts in person while your in that state. Anything online or even facilitating a meeting across state lines falls under federal jurisdiction
What he did was definitely morally wrong, but she was pushing it by calling him a pedo repeatedly. 21 and 17 is not pedo.
@@youareloved1455 mfs these days love using the word nilly willy and water down the term
facts 3 years is not a pedo..plus aint she legit turning 18 ☠☠@@youareloved1455
I loved Tnickles for a while, I haven’t heard any of this before. This is new to me.
it’s honestly both of them. the girl could’ve just left the discord when stuff seemed off or whatever. and why is he sexting with a discord mod. and why are both of them doing all this when they’ve met through discord 😂
It's pathetic imagine pretending you know what the other person looks like and doing tings
Horrible take. She's a minor, he's an adult. In no circumstances should he interact with her in the way that he did. He's 100% to blame for this just by not blocking her and going along with it. Doesn't matter what she did.