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  • @blakeharrison3972
    @blakeharrison3972 8 days ago +44

    As an SEC fan, I think even a Big 10 Chaos scenario, they’d still have a team in the Natty. They operate NFL type structures

    • @jeffreyross-zb8cz
      @jeffreyross-zb8cz 8 days ago +2

      Alum '97 + I Spit Coffee Out 😂 We are a Year Away, Go Get'm OSU 💪

    • @heartbreak25
      @heartbreak25 8 days ago

      That's real. The top of the B1G (OSU, UM, OR, IN, USC, and PSU) are going to be tough outs in the playoffs as long as the coaching stays strong.

    • @Bigtheatabighook33
      @Bigtheatabighook33 8 days ago

      Or a G5 school and an ACC team

    • @Gunbladewarrior
      @Gunbladewarrior 8 days ago +8

      ​@heartbreak25did you just sneak USC in there?

    • @heartbreak25
      @heartbreak25 8 days ago +2

      @Gunbladewarrior They have the #1 recruiting class for 2026. I'm the first person to question whether Riley can get it done since I believe he's a glorified OC who doesn't understand complementary football. But in terms of a program, they're clearly investing to win and at most are a new coaching hire away from doing it. Getting ND off their schedule for the foreseeable future makes it more likely they can make a playoff run with a favorable conference schedule.

  • @nateanglin6584
    @nateanglin6584 6 days ago +1

    I do not recall a single video of this type regarding the SEC when they were dominant.

  • @ibeunstoppable
    @ibeunstoppable 8 days ago +5

    HOO HOO HOO HOOSIERS!!! ⚪️🔴

  • @bujurasta4894
    @bujurasta4894 8 days ago +9

    I guess you can hope LOL Big Ten has best coaching and QB play and its literally not even close right now. Ohio State has two former NFL head coaches as coordinators. We're not the same!!!!!

    • @DavidKreitzer-ng2fe
      @DavidKreitzer-ng2fe 7 days ago +1

      That’s insane!

    • @KirbyOne-N-Done
      @KirbyOne-N-Done 3 days ago

      Best coaching???
      Winning a Natty with the avg player age 25+ isn't coaching. Especially when you buy southern players and former southern Coaches.
      It's a about out bidding other teams.
      Do your research.
      The best players and and current coaches are either from the South or have grown from southern coaches

  • @ronaldbair5448
    @ronaldbair5448 6 days ago

    I don't know why I like your show, but what you are doing is a bit different than the others. I just like it!

  • @derrikallen
    @derrikallen 6 days ago

    Crazy talk. Go Bucks!

  • @Stumble1b4
    @Stumble1b4 8 days ago

    I’ll have my picks every week, I pick them just like Pate.

  • @Scourge77
    @Scourge77 8 days ago +1

    As a USC fan I'll believe it when I see it done on the field.

    • @princeofgreece9054
      @princeofgreece9054 7 days ago

      You are a rare breed of USC fan. Your boys at the University of Spoiled Children are wildin out here 😂

  • @83qqudu
    @83qqudu 8 days ago +1

    There are legitimate reasons to think that Indiana or Ohio State could take half a step back from last year but I really don't see how Oregon isn't better considering how young last years team was. Their O-line last year was good but not great and they dealt with a lot of injuries. I don't see them taking a significant step back there.

  • @TheLAGopher
    @TheLAGopher 5 days ago

    Even a B1G chaos situation helps the conference bottom line by ginning up interest in more Big Ten games. If the supposed top 4 teams are losing to 5 through 10 teams, that puts more schools in the mix for a playoff spot. That helps CBS and NBC
    who tend to get those second tier teams if they could be marketed as plausible dark horses
    that could get into the top 4.
    The SEC is going to 9 conference games this year.
    They are not getting 5 teams in the playoff this season

  • @patrickb9860
    @patrickb9860 8 days ago +4

    If my uncle had boobs, he'd be my aunt. These doomsday scenarios are hilarious. USC will not be playing for a conference or national championship.

    • @porcine83
      @porcine83 8 days ago

      Agreed, first they weren't that good last year. Second adding a bunch of talented Freshmen is not a recipe for consistent success.

  • @taylorrichardson4566
    @taylorrichardson4566 8 days ago +23

    The Big Ten owns the SEC

    • @qe3glazer
      @qe3glazer 8 days ago

      How?

    • @johnkassel318
      @johnkassel318 8 days ago +2

      @qe3glazerHow? How about the smackdowns you guys always get from the Big? Last year was Tenn, this year was Bama. You guys haven’t won a natty in years.

    • @qe3glazer
      @qe3glazer 8 days ago +2

      Always? And 3 years is a blip compared to utter domination over the past 25 years. Let’s wait a little longer before we talk about who “owns” who

    • @BryanWood10
      @BryanWood10 7 days ago +2

      Is that why the sec has a 83-57 record vs the BIG10?

    • @taylorrichardson4566
      @taylorrichardson4566 7 days ago +2

      @BryanWood10is that why the Big Ten has won 3 straight natties while the SEC hasn’t even made the championship in that timeframe?

  • @throgmortonartstudio2402

    If Julian Sayin doesn't figure it out this will just be the case. I don't think OSU needs as good a defense as last year. Their defense will be fine.

  • @RICHARDRamirez-ff7td
    @RICHARDRamirez-ff7td 8 days ago +1

    Michigan and USC are going to challenge this year!

  • @caliresester1784
    @caliresester1784 8 days ago

    Yeah the big 10 might have a pac 12 issue with 4-5 teams at a top tier lvl…cannibilizing itself…thanks for covering this…
    And no no confidence in Riley…but whittingham…watch out big 10

  • @cory2023
    @cory2023 8 days ago +20

    Indiana is always the 3rd team to be mentioned in the big 10 pecking order. If I were Indiana I would use that as material.

    • @nohandle-z6n
      @nohandle-z6n 8 days ago +5

      I am an IU fan. I love that they underated us. This year especially, humble and hungry.

    • @robschaller9061
      @robschaller9061 8 days ago +1

      if YOU THINK THATS AN EDGE YOU ARE JUST STUPID

    • @Gunbladewarrior
      @Gunbladewarrior 8 days ago

      So? Since they've introduced a National championship game Ohio State is the only Big Ten program that has been consistently great the last 28 years. So they're always going to be mentioned first.
      Oregon has dumped a ton of money in their program, so it's not surprising they're mentioned.

    • @PoppinCain
      @PoppinCain 8 days ago

      ​@robschaller9061 sure. Says Mr. CAPSLOCK in YT comments. Lmao

    • @hoosier0309
      @hoosier0309 8 days ago

      We are!

  • @Topguy209
    @Topguy209 8 days ago +1

    SEC homer pater …. Sit and spin for the SEC !

  • @MichaelBrown-ti1un
    @MichaelBrown-ti1un 8 days ago

    Big Ten has the best QB play in the country right now. I think they'll get 4 teams in the CFP.

  • @theandru6968
    @theandru6968 8 days ago

    🦆

  • @kevinwomer5058
    @kevinwomer5058 8 days ago +2

    Down year? Maybe. Still better than the SEC? Definitely.

    • @ijfybisgff1
      @ijfybisgff1 8 days ago

      19 consecutive years where the SEC leads the NFL in draft picks. Complete dominance. That’s longer than most people who watch the show have been alive!

  • @jimno8763
    @jimno8763 8 days ago

    Why dont u make a segment about the top 3 SEC teams underperforming? Georgia Texas and LSU. That way more likely than Big10

  • @V3heat
    @V3heat 8 days ago +1

    Big ten is more chaotic than the sec yet pate acts like it isn’t, Georgia and bama have taken turns winning the sec for the last decade while the big ten has had multiple different teams win the big ten

    • @teddy.d174
      @teddy.d174 8 days ago

      He’s an SEC homer.

    • @yoc329
      @yoc329 8 days ago

      no it’s the same teams at the top iu just made it in last year. the gap from the top and bottom of the big 10 is the largest out of any other conference

  • @andrewmueller9986
    @andrewmueller9986 8 days ago +1

    No. Def no. More teams are in an upswing than down. OSU might take a step back but no the conf won't be down

  • @stevelenores5637
    @stevelenores5637 6 days ago

    You wish. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 You are often wrong but never in doubt.

  • @Redcon22
    @Redcon22 8 days ago

    All that to say the worst case scenario in the B10, injuries, no progression from players coming back and still UGA is the only team that could challenge the top 3 in a down year. Problem is its not supposed to be a down year. Oregon should peak this season, Ohio State should peak this season. Still they will find a way to diminish 2 loss B10 teams and push for 2 loss bama,Vandy Tennessee ect to make the cfp.

  • @MattGinNY
    @MattGinNY 7 days ago

    Syracuse won a NC in 1959. Pretend we are in 1960 and the internet is a thing. "Syracuse is here to say and will be dominant for years to come" is being spewed all day every day on the internet and social media. That's Indiana right now. BTW...Syracuse hasn't won a NC since then...

  • @moopert86
    @moopert86 8 days ago +2

    I just threw up a bit in my mouth when you said Michigan is your big ten champ. That would be nightmare scenario as an Ohio State fan. Whittingham is a good coach, I just hope it takes a year or two to get Michigan back up.

    • @jeffreyross-zb8cz
      @jeffreyross-zb8cz 8 days ago

      Michigan Alum '97 + I spit coffee out 😂 We are definitely year away, all you + ridiculous roster ya'll got this year 👍

    • @MichaelBrown-ti1un
      @MichaelBrown-ti1un 8 days ago

      ​@jeffreyross-zb8czif Underwood puts the puzzle together, I don't think they're a year away. Not sure if Michigan can win it all this year, but if they go 10-2 led by a vastly improved Underwood, it wouldn't shock me.

    • @Fooballsicko
      @Fooballsicko 8 days ago

      @MichaelBrown-ti1un
      People are really over estimating Michigans portal. It was quite low quality for Michigan.
      18 players in at an average grade of 68.
      Some other teams.
      IU, 17 players in at a grade of 77.
      Oregon, 16 players at 73.
      OSU, 17 players at 73.
      USC, 9 players at 75.
      Penn State, 38 players at 71.
      That doesn’t cover the 26 players that left Michigan with a grade of 71. 🤷‍♂️
      Anything could happen, but think there will be more struggles that expected.

  • @Gunbladewarrior
    @Gunbladewarrior 8 days ago +2

    Don't care how about the rest of the Big Ten. Just want Ohio State to be good. Save that conference thumping crap for the SEC

  • @qe3glazer
    @qe3glazer 6 days ago

    SEC lives rent free in this comment section

  • @austinburgess8983
    @austinburgess8983 8 days ago +2

    Big 10 teams in their down year will still beat the sec best and the sec best will be mid. Teams like Illinois will beat them
    Sec's psyop money is showing through the media🙄

    • @lamontmorgan99
      @lamontmorgan99 8 days ago

      Illinois isn’t gonna beat Tennessee at night on the road. Nor would they beat Ole Miss on the road or Oklahoma. Those 3 teams are not the elite of the SEC but strong mid tier. So your argument I don’t actually agree with

    • @austinburgess8983
      @austinburgess8983 8 days ago

      ​​@lamontmorgan99you can argue that but iowa beat Vanderbilt by 7 and Illinois lost to iowa by 2 in a close game. Mind you Vanderbilt beat Tennessee. So it would be a close game. And the Oklahoma vs Tennessee game was close

  • @lamontmorgan99
    @lamontmorgan99 8 days ago +4

    BIG10 Pyramid:
    1.) Indiana
    2.) Ohio State
    3.) Oregon
    4.) USC
    5.) Michigan
    6.) Washington
    7.) Illinois
    8.) Penn State
    9.) Iowa
    10.) Nebraska
    •Everybody else

    • @MichaelBrown-ti1un
      @MichaelBrown-ti1un 8 days ago

      Wow. You're really down on Penn State. Weak schedule. If those Iowa State guys can make the jump to the Big Ten, 9-3 or 10-2 aren'tout of the question this year for Penn State.

    • @Redcon22
      @Redcon22 8 days ago

      I wouldn't put USC over Illinois or Washington until they can prove it on the field. Every year that paper tiger gets rocked by a team that they shouldn't lose to that runs the ball all over them.

    • @johnkassel318
      @johnkassel318 8 days ago +1

      Iowa at 9? They were only a few plays off of being a one loss team last year. They might be really good this season.

    • @ericschlegel2926
      @ericschlegel2926 8 days ago

      Normal big ten pyramid: Ohio state
      Michigan
      Pennsylvania State
      Everyone else
      Pyramid now: OSU, Oregon, Indiana…everyone else

    • @Fooballsicko
      @Fooballsicko 8 days ago

      @johnkassel318
      They did have a really good season. Could
      have been a special one with a win over Oregon, IU, USC.
      Problem is they are 104th in returning production and the portal class wasn’t good quality.
      Recruiting was actually really good for Iowa. So they are gonna have to rely on a lot of freshman.
      I see Iowa as a trendy pick to crash the playoff. But that seems a misread with the schedule and data. Doubt they can go 10-2. They’re always quality so 8 wins looks reasonable.
      Illinois, Nebraska, Washington were trendy picks last year to crash the playoff. Nothing panned out.

  • @richardwestern9546
    @richardwestern9546 8 days ago

    you can hope all you want and down play the other conferences all you want but the sec will fail again in 2026 and again in 2027 and then become obsolete when they finnaly run away because they cannot contend with real teams...

  • @nohandle-z6n
    @nohandle-z6n 8 days ago

    Pate too early...you mention " let's say" "lets say"......lets just say forsake😊

  • @bradylang3038
    @bradylang3038 8 days ago

    Pate loves doing mental gymnastics to affirm his identity as a delusional SEC homer. Speak your truth Josh ❤❤

  • @DanSchaad
    @DanSchaad 8 days ago +12

    Let's say the big ten wins another natty and is still the Sec' s daddy😂😂😂😂

    • @teddy.d174
      @teddy.d174 8 days ago +1

      Spank that SEC arse…🤣

    • @qe3glazer
      @qe3glazer 6 days ago +1

      Why is the SEC so rent free in every B10 fans head?

    • @DanSchaad
      @DanSchaad 6 days ago

      Because we are tired of all the media bias year in and out.

  • @samcobuggies984
    @samcobuggies984 8 days ago +2

    Krispy Kreme called, your putting to much glaze on the SEC 😊

  • @Fooballsicko
    @Fooballsicko 8 days ago

    What down year?
    🤣 😂
    Oregon. USC. Michigan. Penn State. Washington are all in the top 20 in returning production.
    Ohio state is 31. IU is 52. IU had an elite portal. Ohio state in 2025 was something around 90th in returning production and still elite.

  • @jamestucker9545
    @jamestucker9545 8 days ago

    Ohio State and Michigan still matter. Not playing either one gets you to Indy or you should be fired.

  • @JohnNiz-d8p
    @JohnNiz-d8p 4 days ago

    Now I know where the SEC chanters get the hypotheticals ,no wonder you are only commissioner of Pate State .. 😂
    Here's something you can Bookmark hallf your SEC teams will have another loss , and that's a fact not a hypothetical

  • @Buckifan127
    @Buckifan127 8 days ago

    Indiana has the most to prove. They lose their star QB and literally has never truly been in this scenario where they have to rebuild from a previous monster season. OSU has the hardest path but most likely to succeed based on historical success as precedent. Oregon I think is about to be a serious problem for anyone this year though.

    • @paulcampbell8696
      @paulcampbell8696 8 days ago

      I'm an Oregon fan but I have to admit I am probably more fascinated to see what Indiana does this year, I don't think there has ever been a football program in the position they are in this year. I honestly think this will show if Kurt Cignetti is really legendary coach material or not. It will show if they were a flash in the pan or if he has staying power. I like him a ton and I hope he does, but this is the year that will prove it.

    • @Stringerbell5
      @Stringerbell5 8 days ago +1

      Oregon is an unserious program that’s never won anything. Least problematic team in the country

    • @princeofgreece9054
      @princeofgreece9054 7 days ago

      @Stringerbell5 lmao, I can tell you are a new cfb fan. Oregon has won plenty of things. Just not a national championship. And there’s more to college football than the national championship.

    • @Stringerbell5
      @Stringerbell5 7 days ago

      @princeofgreece9054just a legacy of failure brother.

    • @jacobrichardson1455
      @jacobrichardson1455 7 days ago

      @princeofgreece9054Paris Hilton U.. Duck fans = most delusional fan base in college sports

  • @KirbyOne-N-Done
    @KirbyOne-N-Done 3 days ago

    Covid players still in college ball 16 years after their freshman year will run out at some point.
    Celebrating 28 year old avg team winning a college game is sad when the avg NFL team age is 25.
    College ball is a mess right now.
    This is like celebrating your reck league team winning because it's made up of high school seniors.
    I'm so tired of 48th year in college grown adult still playing because he can't make the next level.
    5 years max and you're done. No more extensions or waivers.

  • @RonnieReagan-y3v
    @RonnieReagan-y3v 8 days ago

    No way usc wins the big 10 this year... remember who their head coach is... LOL!

  • @collegefootballtopics

    Ohio st bought they championship Michigan cheated for theres and indiana had a bunch of old players but won fair

  • @jdfreeman380
    @jdfreeman380 5 days ago

    I think Josh hoover is gonna be a bust at Indiana. He's a turnover machine

  • @UnderFurtherReviewPod
    @UnderFurtherReviewPod 8 days ago +1

    Seeing clips from spring ball - it does feel like a different Michigan team.

  • @ayufever1978
    @ayufever1978 7 days ago

    i dont care if the big10 keeps winning championships as long as bama is nowhere near the title game 👍🏼

  • @raymondl3279
    @raymondl3279 8 days ago +2

    I don't see how Oregon doesn't go 16-0 this year. Ohio State in the Shoe is the real test but outside of that I think Oregon has the best roster in the country and if they can't win it with all that talent that came back - they are cursed.

    • @princeofgreece9054
      @princeofgreece9054 7 days ago

      16-0 would be very unlikely. Agree about the talent on the field, though. This will be Oregons most talented team by far at this point. Would be nice to see them make the jump.

    • @shutyomouth119
      @shutyomouth119 6 days ago

      Yeah not a duck fan but they've been knocking on the door consistently the past three years, I think they break through within the next 1 to 5 years and capture that elusive first natty. The last three years Oregon has only lost to teams that either make it to the natty game or win the natty.
      2023- Lost twice to Washington. Washington made it to the natty but lost to Michigan
      2024- Lost to Ohio State in the CFP, who they beat in the regular season. Ohio State goes on to win the natty
      2025- Lost twice to Indiana. Indiana goes on to win the natty
      My point is Oregon only losses to teams that are at the top of the sport. If its a numbers game odds are they'll break through real soon.

  • @Stumble1b4
    @Stumble1b4 8 days ago +1

    Indiana, Ohio, Texas, Michigan, USC, Penn, Miami, BYU, Alabama, Georgia. Here’s my top ten.

    • @dustinbrant8772
      @dustinbrant8772 7 days ago +1

      So.... You think oregon just drops off the edge of the planet?? I'm confused.

    • @jagoffski9984
      @jagoffski9984 5 days ago

      @dustinbrant8772. He’s just a hater

  • @ijfybisgff1
    @ijfybisgff1 8 days ago +3

    SEC has lead the NFL draft in picks 19 consecutive years in a row. Some things never change🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @briandonohue5135
      @briandonohue5135 8 days ago +1

      Hang the banner

    • @ijfybisgff1
      @ijfybisgff1 8 days ago

      Oh ya. The big 10 even has more teams😂

    • @ijfybisgff1
      @ijfybisgff1 8 days ago

      @briandonohue513518 national championships in the last 30 years. B10 only has 6. That’s triple. Numbers don’t lie

    • @briandonohue5135
      @briandonohue5135 8 days ago

      ​@ijfybisgff1hang the banner

  • @Moodyman22
    @Moodyman22 8 days ago

    lol USC may never win a big 10 championship

    • @tommyjones774
      @tommyjones774 2 days ago

      You probably thought Indiana couldn’t win 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Moodyman22
      @Moodyman22 2 hours ago

      @tommyjones774yes but nothing is changing for USC.. coaching is a big problem for them.

  • @jacobheav110
    @jacobheav110 8 days ago +3

    Big 10 is the best conference, and will continue to be so in the near future

    • @PhilipZQuinn
      @PhilipZQuinn 8 days ago

      So you value top end talent and peak over depth of conference. Thats fine just keep that energy if things change. I personally value depth more so i would say the SEC is the best conference, but i would also say that the big 10 has better top end teams as of the last 5 years and probably next year.

    • @jacobheav110
      @jacobheav110 8 days ago

      @PhilipZQuinn yeah top end the top 2 big 10 teams are better and that’s what dictates championships nowadays. SEC hasn’t played in a CFP national championship game since Georgia beat TCU 4 seasons ago (4 team playoff).

    • @34thoover
      @34thoover 8 days ago

      ​@PhilipZQuinnexcept we dominated the sec In bowls the last few years. B10 is better top and better middle SEC has the higher floor and brand

  • @justicemoral4602
    @justicemoral4602 8 days ago

    4:33 hahahaha....nope. USC is for the curbs....they are getting stomped again this year. When you have high school freshman coming in and competing for starting spots you know they are a dismal program. How can you have that scenario in year 5? I think the big surprise will be Michigan and Penn State. They will compete with Oregon and Ohio State for the top spots. Kyle W had both Oregon's and USC number at Utah and now he has a Michigan squad? Yeah, he can ball. Michigan will be much better. Kyle W is worth 2 and a half Lincoln Riley's. I think you will have a better, more competitive BIG10 this year.

    • @Sam-q7j4g
      @Sam-q7j4g 7 days ago

      “Freshman coming in and competing for starting spots you know they’re a dismissal program”
      #1 HS recruiting class in the nation.
      🤡

    • @justicemoral4602
      @justicemoral4602 7 days ago

      @Sam-q7j4g You obviously don't know football. It doesn't matter if they were all 5 star. Freshman coming in and taking starting spots means your team is trash.

  • @jerrywilliams1964-iu

    Josh is begging for subscriptions so he can keep producing his remake of the Bozo show.

  • @Stringerbell5
    @Stringerbell5 8 days ago

    Just gotta say tht Oregon may win some games this season, but there is zero chance to win a championship. They are an unserious program with a legacy of failure