Test Riding the Piaggio MP3 500 LT Sport
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2015
- I didn't know how I could end this video, so Tchaikovsky did it for me.
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"The MP3 has been the best selling scooter in France since 2009" - Source: CSIAM
"Half of the 150,000 MP3 sold in the world were actually sold in France" - Source: Leo Francesco Mercanti, marketing manager at Piaggio, quoted by Moto-net.com
Specifications of the Piaggio MP3 500 LT Sport in brief:
- Monocylinder engine, 493cc, water cooled
- 40 hp @ 7,250 rpm, 46 nm @ 5,250 rpm
- Double cradle in high strength steel tubes frame
- 265 kg (584 lb) with all operating consumable liquids
- Continuously variable transmission (CVT), no ABS
- 785 mm (30.9 in) seat height
- 12 l (3.2 US Gal) fuel tank
- 5,000 km (3,000 mi) maintenance interval
- 9,299 euros (in France), VAT included (9,899 euros with ABS)
This video was recorded at the Parc de Sceaux and the surrounding areas in July 2015.
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Three wheels are also great for wintertime. When there's ice on the road you can have a lot of fun with this thing, drifting around and stuff.
La fin de la vidéo est TOP ! Cette musique et la conclusion + 100 !
Merci T4R' M0 ! Je ne savais pas trop comment conclure la vidéo, alors j'ai laissé faire Tchaikovsky... Et merci encore pour le message hier soir. À bientôt l'ami !
normal ;)
Great review, thanks very much. Answered all my questions :)
Thank you for watching, glad it has helped :)
Good, informative review. Thanks.
Thank you, glad you've enjoyed it :)
I'm glad I watched this some very good points, thankyou.
+ducatiphill Thank YOU for having watched it, glad you've enjoyed! :)
thanks. your review helped me a lot!
You're welcome, glad it has helped :)
Really wanting one of these
Good fair weather, clean road review. I'm on my second MP3 500. I only traded my 2009 in for a 2016 to get the anti-lock brakes and traction control. All your comments are true but... except for the Yamaha Niken, I think you would have a hard time finding a safer ride in the wind and rain or on mud, leaves, sand, gravel, brick, across steel plates or railroad tracks. And do not try braking more than gently in those situations, especially in a turn, on a two wheeler unless you want to have a bad day.
Thanks for your feedback. I can hardly say anything about the Niken, there was heavy rain the day I test rode it and I didn't feel at ease (not because of the Niken itself, but because I wasn't used to it and the conditions didn't help...)
I just got my motorcycle license and I was considering this option, but in light of the comments I will reconsider. Thanks for the thoughtful focus on the three wheel advantage, or non-advantage.
You're welcome, glad it has helped. If you have a motorcycle license and want a big scooter, the Yamaha TMax (review video: ruclips.net/video/2rTAlS4_qdc/видео.html ) or the Honda Forza 300 are much better options in my opinion.
@@MrKiddoMoto just want to know what’s the best scooter for space and travelling far places on motorway
@@brentholiver6312 I haven't tried most of them, but I guess any big scooter would be nice for touring: Yamaha TMax, Suzuki Burgman 650, Honda Forza 750, etc.
Very good review. In my opinion though you missed two (very important) details: stability on difficult situations.
Of course you couldnt figure this out in such a short review, but just wanted to say that I was presented to the 3-wheel advantages that day when a dog crossed the road ahead of me and I couldnt do much more than hit the breaks hard, and the scooter showed great stability and helped me not to fall. Another moment is when the road is wet, or when you need to pass through the Tram rails.
Other than that, great video!
All very true... I'm a happy owner too.
That was a very useful video..... 👍🏻
Cheers :)
My pleasure ;)
Nice and honest review. I have a 2013 Mp3 500 Business White Pearl in Brasil, Rio de Janeiro, for more than 3 years. We need Motorcycle licence to ride it.
Obrigado Cyro! 😊 Good to know that you need a motorcycle license to ride a MP3 500 in Brazil. It's much safer...
great video!
Thanks! :)
Good honest review. I can relate to both sides of the story. I ride the MP3 now for more than a year and really grown to love it. But....last year i also wanted to get a motorcycle license. Why? Because i got addicted to the freedom of moving through traffic on a "balance-vehicle". And all the things they teach you can be applied one-on-one on the Mp3. I can imagine that unexperienced riders can be a real danger. As for me, for years i have ridden 50cc scooters to work, and i have my car licence since the stone-age (1987) ;-) so traffic wise the motorccylce exam was easy.
I now own a Kawasaki Versys 650 and my beloved Piaggio Mp3 (originally sold in Paris, then imported to Holland, hence her name "Parisienne").
The Versys feels much more secure and rigid on the highway, the ride is indeed more agile and the seating position is superior not to mention the power delivery and acceleration.
However, because of the practicality, the fact that the Mp3 is not your everyday scooter here in Holland and the fact that i have gotten to know many other MP3 riders will make me keep her.
Thank you for your valuable feedback! I also know personally 2 persons who bought a MP3 because it can be ridden without a motorcycle licence, and both decided then to get their motorcycle licence. This is one good reason to love the MP3: it can be the initial step before bringing new riders on 2 wheels! The owner of the MP3 in my video is one of them. He now has a motorcycle but he has also kept his MP3. He rides his bike only during weekends, but he still prefers his MP3 for a daily use. PS: I like very much the fact that you call it "Parisienne" :)
Thanks ;-). Parisienne was the first that popped into my mind when i first met her at the dealership in Holland who imports all his bikes from France ;-).
very nice review
Thank you Faisal :)
Great Test...thx
Cheers :)
In Canada you would require a motorcycle licence to operate this on the road...maybe not in European countries, but on this side of the pond a car only licence will not allow you on the highways with this vehicle...it's a mtorcycle ...plan and simple...and BTW I do own one...a 2009 MP3 - 500.....totally luv it!
Those mirrors really were PERFECTLY adjusted...... :D This one's an interesting piece of machinery, though, I'd love to try it, but I wouldn't want to own it. :)
+Gázser Márk I knew you will enjoy... :) Same for me about the bike, I was curious to test ride it, but I will never buy it.
well made video
Thanks! :)
An old video, but still really useful critique of the MP3, Thanks+++
You're welcome, glad if it helps :)
@@MrKiddoMoto helped loads. Made me decide not to buy one 😉
Third is is not "useless." You forgot about more rubber on the road.
Especially in the wet, on potholes or manhole covers.
OMG ce sont les mêmes rétros que la Shiver :D Merde ! ^^
Sinon excellent j'ai adoré la fin !
Merci Walane ! Et oui, Aprilia et Piaggio, c'est le même groupe... :D Mais tu peux t'en réjouir : les rétros, c'est ce que j'ai préféré sur ce scooter. Regarde comme ils sont efficaces à 2:04 ;)
Ah c'est pour ça j'y avais pas pensé !
@@MrKiddoMoto ça fait pas un peu obsédé non?
Ahahahah i loved the last part! I think you are right, it is an interesting scooter just in case you have only a driving license. in Rome, Italy there are a lot of mp3, but they are slow, goofy and too big for the traffic!
Thank you MemphisRaines73! We've exactly the same opinion... I stayed in Rome for a weekend few months ago, and I saw indeed a lot of MP3 there. Fortunately, there are still much more lovely Vespas in the streets of Rome!
I've had my 2007 MP3 in the States and liked the maxi scooters, but always found the front end a bit bouncy and unstable at higher speeds. With the MP3's heavier front, that it gone and the ride is totally comfortable for me. I like the review, but you really should have tried the locking trick on some smooth pavement first. :)
Glad you've enjoyed the review, and thank you for your owner's feedback. You're right, I didn't choose the best place to try the roll-lock. I got used to it after a few tries anyway. It's much easier to activate it on smoother pavements, and it's better to do it as late as possible :)
There's another advantage to three wheels that most people overlook, that being the fact that the MP3 is more stable when buffeted by wind whether courtesy of Mother Nature or a big ass truck.
La conclusion est tout ce qu'il y a à retenir ! ;))
+cybercece Quand on a gouté à la moto, difficile de passer au scooter... ;) Je vais sortir la vidéo du meeting des anciennes cette semaine. Le problème, c'est que j'ai 20 minutes de rushes qui valent le coup d'être montrés, mais je dois raccourcir à 7-8 minutes...
+MrKiddo surtout un 3 roues ... ^^
De mon côté, je rentre tout juste de vacances donc j'ai même pas "trié" les rush encore ...
In my opinion, Piaggio started these 3 wheels to make as much as possible folks riding a motorscooter above 125cc without any additional license. And it works ;-) on the lookout myself :-)
Thar and - Its much much, much safer ride then 2 wheeler. I have one for some time now. Any slippery muddy sandy etc road. Also he is incorrect to say it doesnt add at higher speed turns - you can feel better stability. My humble opinion.
Help please ! Can i press and hold the shock lock button into lock position before i come on a full stop rather than clicking it once after the light comes on ?
yes, when your speed is 5 mph or less.
in reply to a couple of comments. ...The fact that it can be ridden on a car licence was the main reason I bought mine a year ago and it is brilliant. ..I had years of experience on a 125 so I am not a newcomer to biking. ..I would say if you are thinking of getting one to take some training if you are not confident. ..
Glad you enjoy your MP3! That's a good advice... As a biker, it was quite easy for me to ride this 3-wheeler, but only people with a death wish would try to ride it without any biking experience and without a few hours of training. No matter what the law says, it still has a 500cc engine and weighs 265 kg!
That end though... hahaha. I think thats a cool bike, but i would never have one.
Thank you Véras! Same for me, it's way too expensive for what it is...
I think the front wheels should be bigger. As big as the 300. And why the narrower stance?
Would it be able to drive on icy roads at very low speed, like 30km per hour?
I have driven my 2 wheel scooter on very icy and snowcovered roads, without falling so i can drive,I wonder if the 3rd wheel makes incidental driving on icy roads , short 13km drive, home to work possible instead of almost impossible...
It definitely has way more grip
U can actually turn in snow with regular tires without cracking your skull like i tried with a 2 wheel
Perspective from the U.S. where Piaggio just barely survives within the more popular realm of Vespa Scooter dealerships. Only 500 cc version available over here, but previous version, we had 250, 400 and 500. I went on a ride with someone who had the previous version of an MP3 500 or could have been 400. Those had 12" front wheels; the new ones have 13" front wheels. He said that design absolutely just chewed up the front wheels; lasting no more than 5,000 miles, and that was a huge complaint and so he was looking for something different so he could keep riding and stay out of the shop for tires. Not sure if the bigger wheel/tire combination helps in that regard, but I'm sure tens-of-thousands of French folks know about how that's worked out.At the time I had a Piaggio BV350 two-wheel scooter. Better scooter and better value than any Vespa model; none of which get that newly-designed 330 cc that's in the Piaggio BV (Beverly for the rest of the world). Mine had 33 hp and 21 peak foot lb torque for what that's worth; mine cost at or about $5,700 MSRP; his was at or about $10,000. A got about 67 mpg in warm weather, and even tough I don't own it today, I still feel like it's one of the best all-around, highway capable scooters on the market in between the very expensive maxi scooters and very limited smaller scooters. I'd choose the BV350 still today over the Honda Forza 300 and Sym 300 and Vespa 300 and Kymco 300 Downtown, with the Downtown being second place due to it's large front fairing giving that Burgman-like weather protection. The MP3 500 rider got around 50-55 mpg though he is a bigger guy than me. He had more built in storage, but I had quite a bit too. I had better overall performance, because my scooter weighed only 395 pounds. Soon after that Honda came out with the CTX700 motorcycle with a 670 parallel twin with 44 peak foot pounds of torque (rated; not at the wheel; more like 41 at the wheel) with an estimated 64 mpg and a small fairing. I love mid-range power as a former diesel car owner and absolutely hate high revving performance, so this was just what I had been waiting for in a ride. I traded the scooter for this great machine in one heartbeat and have never looked back. Now I get 76 mpg commuting on a mid-sized motorcycle with much less prospect of shop time and much greater wear life on tires; standard chain and sprocket as opposed to all that expensive, complicated CVT stuff that I could have been looking at as a highway commuter, commuting a few thousand miles per year. I feel I have the mentality of most scooter riders who ride for practicality + fun, instead of only fun and impressing others, which is why motorcycles come out the way they do in today's market. But some of the newer Honda models are the exception and is why a scooter-minded person can end up with a motorcycle that can have efficiency and service advantages over scooters when engineered for practicality. It's just that we don't see a lot of that in the market. I can think of two other models today, from two other manufacturers; there may be more: Suzuki SV650; BMW GS650. Practical, useful, some value and fun; but absolutely exceptions. BMW F800 GT would also make the list if it weren't so expensive. Great powerful power train with mpg as high as 60.Now a Honda 3-wheeler with the 670 cc parallel twin with engineering that makes stable riding more intuitive than stopping the MP3. That would be the best ride ever and that would make me and my wife riding partners.
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Love the ending ^.^ Lane filtering seems difficult with the agility being restricted third wheel and slow on acceleration with the weight
Thank you, Keith Wong. Indeed it isn't the best scooter for filtering... Too big and too heavy.
My girlfriend says that this is not a bike, this is a trycicle!! Jaja! But it a beautiful bike. Bona nit Mr Kiddo !!
Gràcies Rider Barcelona! Actually your girlfriend is right: the French law also says it's a "tricycle with an engine"... That's why it can be ridden with a car driving licence! Bona nit a tu :)
Try an emergency brake in a turn or even straight but with a bit of sand in the street... or worst situation with rain.. if you have one wheel you fel down immediately with mp3 you never fel down. Obviusly if you go just 40kph is like the one wheel... try to bend in high speed and tell me if you feel safe with 2wheels or better with one wheel in front.... i bet you feel safe with 2 front wheels.
Please try a real motorcycle, and then talk... People who have never ridden motorcycles underestimate how much stable they are. Because I'm tired to have under this video comments from unexperienced MP3 riders, I will take the time to explain you. The balance on a 2-wheeler is mainly provided by the gyroscopic force. I ride motorcycles, and as you can see in my other videos, I have absolutely no problem for doing emergency brakes or riding in the rain. It also happened to me to be surprised by gravel on the road, even in a curve, without crashing. Gyroscopic force increases with wheel size and speed. Leaning at high speed feels obviously MUCH safer with a motorcycle than with a MP3. The problem with the MP3 is that it has indeed 3 wheels, but those are two small wheels, so they provide less gyroscopic force. Not the mention the poor grip of scooter tires compared to motorcycle tires. A low center of gravity also contribute to the stability of a 2-wheeler. See for example my test ride of the Yamaha T-Max ( ruclips.net/video/2rTAlS4_qdc/видео.html ). It feels much more stable and safer than the MP3. Can you ride your MP3 handless as I did with the TMax? Certainly not. All of these being said, I still think that the MP3 is a good scooter. It's comfortable, it has a lot of practical features, and it's more powerful than many other scooters. But it's not more stable and safer than a motorcycle, and it's less agile and easy to ride than a small scooter.
MrKiddo sorry but we talking about scooters not motorcycles.....i never mention motorcycles... scooters between 2 and 3 wheels.come on you can't compare scooters with motorcicle... Tmax is a scooter with a different chassis more near a real motorcycle then a normal scooter. I ride in my past a 50cc scooter mbk booster a piaggio runner 180cc a piaggio mp3 250cc a kawasaki rs6n 650cc mt07 700cc and now a mt09 850cc so i think i can talk about it i have my experience and what i mention was in my possession but i drove more scooters and more motorcycles then mentioned. If we talk about tmax(leader on scooters in my opinion) yes mp3 have less stability... and yes even if we talking about a real motorcycle... but if we talking about scooters stability and safety in fast turns even low speeds or a real emergency break. now all habe abs in my past i don't had abs just in mt07 amd mt09 and mp3 save me in a lot of situations of emergency like dogs even children go suddenly in street or stupid cars don't give the right of way.. mp3 is mooore better and safe you tell 2 wheels is the same of 3 wheels no difference at medium speed.and is not true... speaking about the manoeuvrability yes mp3 is heavy and not perfect at very low speed.
So you disagree with me, but you say basically the same thing: it's not more stable than a good 2-wheeler, and it's less agile than a small scooter 😉
MrKiddo i just disagree about the 3rd wheel is useless speaking about scooters 5:36 ✌😉👍
How about reviewing the updated MP3 300hpe to compare?
If the opportunity arises ;)
I have it for almost a year and I love it.Excellent braking and safe as a bike can get.3.5l/100km with normal driving.
lol the applause at 3:32!
Ankur Kapoor I worked hard for it ;)
The advantage of this 3 wheeler is it's far less likely to get stolen and has more space for storage and passenger. My coworker had his GSXR stolen while it was parked at work. Only 2 days old. He had to rent a car to get home. Now that hurts.
I feel sorry for your friend who has his Gixxer stolen :( Indeed the MP3 is a good solution for storage space...
Since there seems to be a question about the credentials in terms of bikes ridden of people commenting on this review let me state mine before I comment. I live in Australia so some of the bikes I talk about may not be available where you live. The first bike I ever rode belonged to my brother. It was a Russian made thing called a Voshkod - it was a pretty awful bike - that was about 1970. In 1971 I owned and Honda CB 250 which was a much better bike. Moving forward to the 21st century in the last 10 years I have owned a Yamaha XV1100 - a big bore cruiser. I used to commute to work a round trip of 200kms on open roads and highways. After putting 100,000kms on it I traded it for a Kawasaki Voyager 1700 - another big bore cruiser which I also used for commuting the same distance. In the last 2 years of work I put close to 70,000kms on it and since retiring 5 years ago have added almost another 20,000kms. Just before I retired I bought for my wife, in the hope that she would get the bug and we could go motorcycling together in retirement, a Piaggio MP3 400 (the slightly smaller version of what is being reviewed here). She took some mandatory pre-rider training and became convinced she wouldn't pass and the instructors made some disparaging comments about the safety of the 400 so after a few months of it not being used I gave it to my son. He soon mastered the bike having never ridden a motorbike before got his permit, rode the Piaggio a few times a decided he wanted a bigger cruiser so it was sold. I will return to the Piaggio in a moment but I need to explain that I also own a Suzuki Burgman 650 Executive - a large bore scooter. I feel I have some credentials in terms of bikes I have ridden and kilometres I have travelled on them. As I explained above I bought the Piaggio 400 for my wife to learn on - the extra wheel and the locking front wheels were the attractions. Big size scooters are made with the option of touring as well as the daily commute. The Yamaha TriCity is great for the city commute or even the pizza delivery but would be impractical for the open road. I felt the 400 would have enough grunt to keep up on the open road (in Australia the national speed limit is 110km/h) and would also serve for a quick trip to the shops. I thought the 400 would not be too heavy (for my wife) whereas the 500 might. when I bought the bike I rode home from the dealer, a trip of 200kms, on a two lane main highway used by many large trucks. I found it had plenty of power to hold its own at the national speed limit and if you didn't keep an eye on the speedo your speed could easily creep up well beyond that. The twist and go transmission made it easy to get off the mark and get going - I'm not overly concerned about 0-60km/h times but I recognise that this is a measure of how quickly you can accelerate out of danger. The brakes worked well a disc on each front wheel and a single disc at the back all operated by levers on the handle bars. The Piaggio was a 2004 model, I can't recall whether it had ABS or not but the Burgman I own does and it makes a difference. I never had a concern about the stability yof the bike at high or low speed. There were times on uneven road surfaces when I was grateful for the extra wheel with its contact patch it meant I didn't have to change direction as I knew the other wheel up front would hold the road. The locking mechanism took a few goes to get used to but in truth I rarely used it except to show off at lights or stop signs. There was plenty of under seat storage but none in the dash areas whereas the Suzuki has 3 storage compartments in the dash. Instrumentation and warning lights covered everything the rider needed including a fuel gauge. One criticism was of the useless sports bike screen - it provided no wind protection at high speed on the open road where you need it. I would recommend the Piaggio MP3 400 but in truth if you were planning to do lots of open road riding the 500 might be a better option if you seek the 3 wheels. I don't think many were sold in Australia. I recall seeing lots of them in Paris both Piaggio and other brands. They were thought to be good for cobbled inner city streets.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. I said in the video I also think it's a good scooter (see at 6:46). But many commenters here took me wrong and focused mainly on the fact I said the 3rd wheel doesn't add much. Finally, the reason why I don't recommend it is that it's too expensive in my opinion compared to what it offers and 2-wheelers you can buy for the same price. As you own a Burgman 650, your opinion is valuable and you can compare. Could you please tell us what you think about the following points:
MP3's brakes compared to Burgman: much better/slightly better/same/slightly worse/much worse?
MP3's stability compared to Burgman: much better/slightly better/same/slightly worse/much worse?
MP3's agility compared to Burgman: much better/slightly better/same/slightly worse/much worse?
MP3's comfort compared to Burgman: much better/slightly better/same/slightly worse/much worse?
MP3's price compared to Burgman: good deal/fair deal/A bit too pricey/bad deal?
Some of your questions are difficult to answer as the time between owning the 2 scooters is a few years during which I didn't own one. I can say the ABS on the Burgman makes the braking much better. I am a confident rider and as you can see I ride a big cruiser so I don't have an issue with stability but I can see that some people would feel more confident on the MP3 just because it has an extra wheel. I feel confident throwing my Kawasaki around on the open road and although both scooters are suitable for lane splitting I rarely do that because where I live there isn't much traffic. I would say the extra wheel might give some riders a bit more security to lane split but then as you have two wheels up front you need the gaps to be a bit wider. The mirrors fold in on the Suzuki using a switch on the handle bar but it is a long wheel base wide bike. I think the Suzuki might be a bit more comfortable both in the seat and the riding position. There are 3 positions for the rider's feet from calves at right angles to the thighs to stretched out like highway pegs on a cruiser but behind the fairing. I don't recall the MP3 having that feature and the seat was a bit harder. Regarding price a new Suzuki Burgman 650 AN Executive is $14490 AUD ride away (2017 plate). The Piaggio MP3s are no longer sold in Australia - the closet you can get to the 400 or 500 is the Your Urban 300 which I think is slightly wider at the front and can be ridden in some states on a car licence whereas the 400 and 500 where the distance between the front wheels was narrower required a motorcycle licence and pre-learner training. The Your Urban 300 is $10450 AUD ride away. In terms of value for money I would say the Burgman is a better option because it is larger and more suited to the dual purpose of open road touring as well as city riding. Bikes in Australia are taxed for registration - to be able to ride them on the roads according to engine size so the 650 would cost more each year to register than the 300 - the difference would probably be several hundred dollars. I hope that provides more information for potential buyers. I love riding all my toys and probably most bikes but I can't come at riding sports bikes - the are uncomfortable after only a short ride and I don't like the look of them. Thanks for reading and responding to my comments.
Thanks for the review. I was always wondering what was the French attraction to those 3 wheelers? "Not special permit required :)" Will never work here, when a bike license is only $20. Loved your video ending, haha
Thank YOU for having watched and commented it, Spinnaker! $20? Wow, that's so cheap... Even the 7-hour training course required in France for riding this 3-wheeler is more expensive (€250-350)! À bientôt l'ami :)
MrKiddo Pay $20. Read the 10 pages brochure, pass your permit (Questions are exactly the same as in the book, no surprises). Now you have your permit. Permits are good for 6 month.
With the permit you can ride with a group of riders, or have a license holder seating behind you.
Then pass the simple road test. Done. Now you can ride a 1500cc bike if you want.
If you are caught riding a motorcycle without a bike license, but have a car license, its a $25 ticket and no points removed.
Life is soooooooooo good in America :)
Spinnaker If you ever come to Europe, you better take extra training in motorcycle control. Otherwise you will end up as roadkill within 10 minutes in our congested roads. Traffic is crazy over here, but not as crazy as in Asia.
+Dutch Scooter Guy (DSG) Thanks Dutch, but I am an exception on the American continent. I learned to drive like a maniac on the streets of Paris :)
I think the test rider misses the point of the 3 wheels, its not just to make a stable foot off the ground stop, its also for traction on different surface conditions and levels. Other than that its a good test ride!
Glad you've enjoyed the test ride! However I disagree with you. My opinion is that 3 small wheels on a heavy scooter aren't better than 2 wheels on a light scooter. My motorcycle was at service yesterday, and I had a Honda SH125i as a courtesy bike. 2 high wheels, and half the weight of the MP3... Believe me, it's much safer, nimbler, and easier to ride.
I'm looking at getting one of these for a few months. I've severed my right Achilles' tendon and can't drive. I am thinking of either a small, light, scooter or one of these. The weight is a concern (I've ridden gold wings etc) because of a lack of strength in my right leg. Not sure which is best. Locally used they all seem to be 8-10 years old so that's a concern too.
Hi Marc. Only testing the scooters yourself will allow you to know what is the best solution for you, especially considering your Achille's tendon issues... I would personally prefer a 300-400cc 2-wheeled scooter, faster, nimbler and much lighter than the MP3. But you don't need to put your feet on the ground at every stop with the MP3 and maybe it could be a very interesting feature for you.
MrKiddo thanks I'm going to take a look at both but the small one might be better. I like the idea of storage space etc but it's only temporary anyhow so making due might be the best. Cheers!
Im planning to buy 250cc piaggio mp3.ia it possible to ride piaggio 250cc on autostrada(highway)? From france to italy??
Its top speed is 130 kph. On the highway, you will need to be permanently at the top speed, or close to it. I'm afraid it would be boring and not comfortable for long trip... But you can travel with it from France to Italy on strade statali. That would be much more interesting ;)
@@MrKiddoMoto my drivers license has a restriction code AB.
Am I allowed to drive this beautiful piaggio mp3 250cc??
With owning a MP3 expect to have large bills with changing steering bearing and throttle cable
You really shouldn’t use the auto stabilization for coming to a stop. After stopping use it. Don’t use it down hill either.
Yes, that's what I understood during my test ride...
I'm considering buying one of these, as I'm completely unexperienced about motorcycles. For a new user like me, do you think it is a wise choice? I'm serious considering this one, because it rains a lot in my home town (Lisbon). Do you think it's safer than a 2 wheeler in the rain? I'm otherwise considering a 2 wheeler - a VSTROM 650, they have a similar price over here. Thanks
If you don't care about motorcycling and just want something convenient for commuting in the city, the Piaggio MP3 is a great scooter. In all others cases, you will have MUCH more fun with the Suzuki VStrom. Safety-wise, the Piaggio isn't really safer: people who would tell you the opposite don't know a lot about motorcycle dynamics and gyroscopic forces.
Lol great ending
Thank you Bikers Quest! :)
is the acceleration en top speed of the 500cc realy similar to the 250cc one, like you mention in the video??
Absolutely. 0-100 kph in 8 seconds, 160 kph top speed. The MP3 has a 500cc engine but it's also VERY heavy, so it can't go faster than a 250cc bike which weighs 100 kg less...
+MrKiddo thnx for your response! how about the yourban, also similar to the 500cc ?
I don't know, I haven't tried it.
jaime beaucoup
Merci !
What about riding it in winter? Would it make a difference having 2 front wheels in case of treacherous icy conditions on the road? What is your opinion?
I haven't tried, but I don't think so. I said in the video at 00:49 that the owner of this MP3 has crashed once. It actually happened while he was riding at 30 kph in a roundabout in wet condition. Both front wheels skidded! The problem is that the MP3 has 3 wheels indeed, but they are narrow and have bad tires which don't provide a good grip, while the bike is very heavy. The small scooters (50cc or 125cc) also have bad tires, but they're light. The other big scooters (TMax, Burgman, etc.) and motorcycles have wide tires offering a good grip. All in all, the MP3 is a good choice if you want something more powerful than a 125cc without getting a motorcycle licence. But it's not safer than a 2-wheeler IMO...
Thanks MrKiddo!
@@MrKiddoMoto that is a big big big lie. All people say its way safer in the rain. Like all mp3 owners, you ride like 50 minutes and you are an expert? Lool
Perso ça fait 5 ans que je roule avec. La version 2016. Le 3 roues a un gros avantage ,prise d'angle,pas de chute dans les ronds points ou route grasse,freine plus court ,et sur un freinage puissant il reste en ligne et pas de risques de partir en soleil, enfin très bonne protection contre les intempéries,tout cela je peux le comparer car je suis un vrai motard avec expérience de 40 ans du deux roues,et si je suis en MP3 c'est que ma santé ne me permet plus de rouler en deux roues,alors oui j aurais pu passer sur un side mais pour l interfile lol
seems very clunky and sluggish What is the cover wrapped up in the front ?
Visiblement ce scooter demande un temps d'adaptation, je veux dire plus qu'une moto. Merci pour cet essai, je n'avais pas réellement entend parler des côtés négatifs qui tu indiques. Bon en même temps, les scooters ne m'intéressent pas trop hein
Il est bien ce final, ça me donne quelques idées pour plus tard :-)
PS : faut que je retourne en concession, mes rétros ne sont pas aussi bien réglés ;-)
Chaker BZH AAAHHH MERCI ! Enfin quelqu'un qui a relevé l'efficacité des rétros ! Je désespérais de n'avoir aucun commentaire à ce sujet... :D En fait, il faut juste un petit temps d'adaptation pour le verrouillage (et le déverrouillage) du roulis, sinon c'est très facile à conduire.
Je suis trop fan de tes discrètes allusions pour les louper ;-)
Oh putin encore un obsédé pour les rétro... La jeune dame est accompagnée il me semble 🤔
petite Audi R8 qui passe au calme a 6:30. et le mp3 se vend bien en France mais principalement a Paris pour tout ce qui est coursier (plein de place ) et le fait que on peut le prendre avec le permis auto. sinon pour papi qui vit en rase campagne il garde sa 103.
adrien fairier Il y a aussi beaucoup de cadres qui se déplacent en MP3 à Paris... On les voit faire l'interfile en costume sur le périph le matin !
Oui c'est vrai mais c'est souvent eux qui devrait resté dans leur Behem, ils mettent defois en danger tout le monde
+adrien fairier Parce que tu crois qu'un jeune cadre aux dents qui rayent le plancher en B.M. (=tank léger),c'est pas dangereux? ^^
Parc de Sceaux BRAAAAA
Merci pour ce test MrKiddo. Et très belle conclusion au test^^
Mëme si tu sembles dire que ce scoot est très facile à conduire, en visionnant la vidéo, j'ai l'impression que t'es vraiment pas à ton aise tout du long. Peut être est ce l'angle de la caméra? En tout cas, quand tu es sur une moto, c'est vraiment une autre chose: agile sûr dynamique. Ici, ça semble horriblement pataud, pas sécurisant... Vraiment une drôle d'impression au point où j'avais peur pour toi. Bizarre... Vivement que tu reviennes sur ton fidèle destrier :)
Merci à toi d'avoir regardé et commenté Pat Eversman ! Effectivement je pense que c'est un véhicule facile à conduire. Quelqu'un qui a zéro expérience aura sûrement moins de mal avec un MP3 qu'avec une moto. Mais comme je suis déjà habitué aux motos, j'ai un peu perdu mes repères sur le MP3... Je n'étais pas à l'aise les 10 premières minutes, ensuite ça allait nettement mieux. Mais il m'aurait quand même fallu quelques heures pour être parfaitement à l'aise. Dans tous les cas, ça reste un scooter bien lourd et assez peu agile !
MrKiddo Merci encore pour la réponse complète.V à toi et vivement tes prochaines vidéos. :)
Has anyone tried one in snow and/or ice?
yes and its the same as a 2 wheeler driving it on ice or snow
ok video, but I think your too quick to judge the stability over 25mph and say that the third wheel is useless. I've got an MP3 & also 2 'regular' scooters. When cornering at 50+ MPH on the MP3 (especially in bad weather) I'm eternally grateful for the 3rd wheel! I've ridden over county roads full of horse manure with out a problem..
filtering is great on the mp3, I find that car drivers actually make space for me - sometimes more out of curiosity than courtesy though!
And the brakes? I've always found them astounding, not sure what was wrong with your test model..
Thank you for your customer feedback. I rode it for 48 minutes, and I'm sure it doesn't become better on the 49th or after... 😉 Compared to a light scooter, the MP3 is indeed more stable, but it's also much heavier, less agile and more expensive. Compared to a motorcycle (what I'm used to ride daily), the MP3 feels unstable and has poor brakes. It's obvious. Anyway, as I told in the video, I still think the MP3 is a good scooter, powerful, comfortable and spacious, interesting only for drivers without a motorcycle licence.
@@MrKiddoMoto lets ride on the rain and see the diference
All very true!!. I'm a happy owner too
I wish my French were half as good as your English!
About the machine though...
You mentioned handling a couple of times and said it's not as agile as a regular bike and is only more stable up to around 40 KPH.
I ride a 650cc 2-wheeler but have thought about the biggest of the MP3 range as I think they are cool and I get pain in my left hand from using the clutch a lot in town.
Even so, it seems that you would not suggest on of these for me (?)
I live in Japan so an MP3 would be an expensive option here, as it is not a Japanese bike.
I would have liked to see some 'real' cornering and testing of the handling, but thank you for the review.
You're welcome +staninjapan07! English is much more easy to learn than French... 😉 Yes, there isn't indeed any "real" cornering in the video, because Parisian bikers have to do many miles before reaching some "real" corners 😟 Honestly, I would recommend you rather a 400cc 2-wheeled scooter: no clutch neither, but they are much cheaper, faster, and nimbler.
Bonsoir Mr Kiddo, I've seen a lot of these in France and just can't get my head round why someone would buy one. They seem very unstable and a bit too wide to move in and out through heavy traffic. Anyway you're a braver man than me to test-drive one! I like the Tchaikovsky at the end, it's a shame it's about the defeat of Napoleon in Russia! A bientot.
Bonsoir Glen Pierce ! It's a solution for the cars drivers who want to move through the traffic with something more agile than a car and more powerful than a 125cc. But it has indeed no real interest for someone who has a motorcycle licence. Glad you've liked the ending. Even if Tchaikovsky's 1812 celebrates Napoleon's defeat, it's an honour to know that a victory against the French deserves such an awesome celebration music ;)
I like Napoleon, a very interesting man. I've been to Corsica, his birthplace 5 times. I even looked into buying a house on the south of the island, but it's too expensive for me at the present. One day perhaps I'll live in France again, before I get too old! A bientot.
le roll lock sur des pavé mdr faut êtrre un champion
...absolutely true... over-complicated with zillions of wear and tear bushes and joints...it’s just a comercial legal strategic adaption to vehicle laws making it possibly to use legally without proper motorcycle training and skill for a car license holder...
Spot-on! You have perfectly described what I think about the MP3... 👌
hi. have u tested the xsr900?
No, I haven't, not yet... Here is the full playlist of my test-rides and reviews:
ruclips.net/p/PL5MA3W7mAYHkEkGIA6LbdK0TF6szSPKxj
MrKiddo thx
Diferent bike, good review. I like that girl in the well adjusted mirrors LOL
I think that riding this bike on the road needs some time to master the tecnic. Don't like the exhaust sound!
Cheers!
Thank you KTM Duke 125 Laranjinha! Some training is indeed required for mastering the roll lock system, otherwise the scooter is easy to ride... I didn't like the exhaust sound me neither. Oh, yes, the mirrors were amazing... ;)
Which year is this piaggio on test?
2013 or 2014, I don't remember exactly...
Scooters are fun but too expensive to buy and service e because of the plastic which must be removed to service much of the points
Also the maintenance interval is short. The Piaggio MP3 must be serviced every 5,000 km!!! For a motorcycle like the Honda CB650F, it's once every 12,000 km...
Couldn't have been easy trying to engage the tilt lock on a cobble stone road.
Indeed :)
You actually rode that for 8 mins + editing! My god what is the biker world coming to!!
:-P RSM8
clanmac66 I rode it for exactly 48 min 46 seconds (checked with the GoPro files) and I kept it in my garage for 1 week. Ride safe.
Mr Kiddo missed the point of the wheel configuration, it’s a lot about distributing the front contact from 1 wheel to 2. This is called redundancy, and in the world of scooting, that means if you hit an oil slick with 1 wheel, you have another one up front that might have missed it.
Wonder what make bikes stable... Contact points is only one of the aspects. Indeed, the MP3 has 2 contact points on the front, but there is also much more weight there, a high center of gravity and less gyroscopic force (which depend of the wheel diameter), because of the small wheels. You should try a Yamaha TMax or a Honda Forza. Trust me, you will immediately feel safer...
I wait till I stop before the lock goes on
Salut super vidéo très intéressante ! Tu pourrais faire le même avec le Peugeot metropolis RS? pour comparé .
PS :Désolé si ça a était demander 100 x
Merci M Ulgan ! :) Non, t'es le premier à me le demander pour le Peugeot Metropolis. Un autre m'a aussi demandé si je pouvais essayer le Yamaha Tricity. Mais disons qu'essayer des scooters à 3 roues n'est pas vraiment dans mes priorités. On verra si l'occasion se présente d'elle-même...
I want the Quadro 4D but the prices of these :/
Nice vid tho.. It deserves more likes and less dislikes
Cheers! 😊
I can only presume you have a bike licence and have actually riden other bikes? Over 40 years I've been riding bikes, and, after riding an LT 500 I found it very stable and safe to ride a all speeds.The slow speed to stop locking mechanism is excellent in traffic although I've been told over use can lead to steering notch.On a test track I've riden to 98 mph and at this speed I felt more safe than my Kwaka 400, this I believe would be to the 3rd centrifugal force of the 3rd wheel.I would like to see a geared version of this bike !Perhaps with a bit more riding of the 500 before giving a slight demeaning report would be more accurate? But, as I do not know you I maybe incorrect, if so, I apologise.
If you had taken the time to check my channel, you would have seen than I have ridden 17 different motorcycles and scooters over the last 2 years. I can tell you without a single second of hesitation: the Piaggio MP3 500 is obviously the one which is the least stable and which has the worst brakes. Sorry but I can't believe someone who tells me being an experienced rider if he also says the Piaggio MP3 is stable. It's comfortable, it's spacious, but it's not stable. It's my honest and independent opinion. A few former MP3 owners who now ride motorcycles told me they agree with me. Feel free to watch my review of the Yamaha TMax to see what a stable scooter actually looks like.
Actually the locking device has nothing to do with the steering notch problem, it has been identified to be caused originally by misinformation sent out by the factory on proper adjustment and tightening of the front steering tube bearings. The problem was the guidelines called for too much torque tightening on the bearing which was corrected but still many shops don't do it properly unless its brought to their attention. The bearing life could actually be extended if the notched area is turned about a quarter turn so its not affecting the steering however its best not to overtighten so as not to have the problem in the first place because of so much of the MP3's tupperware needing to be removed to get to areas of repair and eating up technician time just to get to the problem for repairs. Still, this is an amazing scooter/motorcycle and very fun to ride!
on vient de passer un nouveau cap avec le quadro 4 :D
Oui, c'est vrai ! 12 500 euros... Il y a en a qui paieraient cher pour éviter de passer le permis A :D
vu la différence de prix entre la forma et le permis A jles comprends :D
A want to sell my Piaggo Mp 3 12.000 Miles year 2013
I do not agree. When the ground is wet or dirty and you have to brake hard or go through a hole the third wheel is a blessing. I speak knowingly, I have an MP3 400 LT since 2009, 35,000 km, mainly used in Paris, the peripheric and the main roads. This 3rd wheel avoided me several very HOT situations 🔥
But have you any experience on any >125cc two-wheeler? You should try to see how much stable it actually is...
@@MrKiddoMoto i think that very experienced bikers can use big two-wheelers with good security, but no average level allows this with enough security
10.000 balles ?! =o pour ce prix là, autant passer le permis moto, s'acheter un équipement correct, acheter un (scooter) 2 roues, et il te reste encore des sous de côté !
Et tu n'en parles pas dans ton test, mais 265kg, avec un mono (connu pour consommer à crever ces engins là) de 40 petits chevaux, ca doit consommer plutôt pas mal non ? surtout en ville, obligé de mettre la poignée dans le coin tout le temps pour lancer la bête, non ? Quand je vois déjà la "difficulté" (bon, on se comprend, 7 secondes le 0 - 100, ca va) à lancer ma bandit, qui fait le même poids, mais qui a le double de cheveaux.....
En tout cas, très intéressant ce test !
Merci floflospeed24 ! J'avais pensé à conclure la vidéo par une phrase du genre "You want a big bike? Move your arse et get your f**king licence!". Puis j'ai eu l'idée de le dire plutôt en image et en musique... :) Pour la consommation, je ne sais pas, je demanderai au proprio. Mais effectivement, il faut être généreux sur la poignée de gaz. Au démarrage, ça commence tout juste à avancer (au sens propre) à 3 000-3 500 tr/min. En dessous, on entend le moteur prendre des tours sans qu'il ne se passe quoique ce soit...
Do you have a problem with your balance/ears ? You appear to be very unstable ?
I have no problem on every other bikes, only on the MP3. So you should wonder if it comes from my balance / ears, or from this stupid 3-wheelers...
Video starts at @2:20 :)
Everything is relative... To me, it actually starts at 7:36 ;)
I would of liked to end the video by setting light to it, watch it go up in flames lol!
Terrible to ride, glad you made it through without injury.
What concerns me is, some car drivers will think it handles like a motorbike! The price is crazy, like the slow speed wobble.
RSMF-*RI*
Mr B
+Mr & Mrs B's Brain Dump That would have been an awesome ending! 😄 For the handling and brakes, it absolutely can't compete with a real motorbike. If it cost just a little bit more than a 125cc scooter, it would make sense. But it's more expensive than a good 800cc motorcycle... 😱 I loved your video about it, it's very funny. Ride safe & invisible too MrB :)
*(link* *to* *MrB's* *video* *about* *the* *MP3:* ruclips.net/video/M27wUTMncQA/видео.html *)*
Ne faites jamais confiance absolue au roll-lock,gardez le pied prêt à éviter la chute.En effet,on peut,surtout si on est fatigué,mal le manipuler,mais en plus (rare,mais ça m'est arrivé une fois) le capteur peut avoir une panne(deux chutes l'une après l'autre à l'arrêt,devant tout le monde,la honte) Get your foot ready to stop falling,it can happen ,rarely,that the sensor of the roll-lock system is out of order,and also ,when tired,a bad handling of the controller and falling (the shame).Par ailleurs,40 petits chevaux en frisant la demi-tonne (avec chargement et passagère),c'est quand même pas bezef,surtout sur autoroute...mais bon,ça le fait quand même pas trop mal,c'est déjà ça.Et puis trois roues dont deux petites,c'est moins stable que deux grandes à haute vitesse,mais plus à vitesse lente,et de toutes façons plus stable que deux petites ...
Merci pour ton retour +felix25ize, et bravo car tous les utilisateurs de MP3 qui ont laissé un commentaire sous cette vidéo n'ont pas été aussi objectifs que toi... :)
+MrKiddo Merci,et bravo pour la vidéo.
It's weird that you're able to drive that with only a car driving license
Here in Croatia,you can only drive up to 50cc with a car license
Never seen any of these in person but the most popular scooter here is the Piaggio Beverly
***** In France, no licence is required for a 50cc bike. People who have a car licence can ride a 125cc bike or any 3-wheeler provided that they have followed a 7 hours training course with no examination at the end.
@@MrKiddoMoto Here in the netherlands, you can drive it with your car license if you have this before januari 2013, but I have the 300 cc version ASR/ABS Sport 2014, and I must say, its a nice bike and for me personly as a car driver a great step upwards from the scooter and car to a motor cycle feeling, and mayby in the future here you can drive with your car license a 125 cc motor, but here the are not so fast following the europain rules as one family on traffic laws, but at the end of this comment, I am happy with the Mp3 and I don't need to speed up and hurry from a to b. Thank you..
depends on your riding exp mate.ive ridden a lot of bikes and scooters o er the years.i got mine 4 weeks ago and ive already done 2000 miles.
it handles better then any scooter ive ridden.once you get used to the slightly heavier front you can throw it about like a 50cc.all depends on your experience i guess.
this is the 1st review ive seen that slates the handling and brakes.i read a lot of reviews before buying one and every magazine praised the handling and brakes.
you really need to ride it for a few days to get the feel of it really.
i think the fault is your rider skill more then the bike mate sorry but your in the minority on this one
+peter murray Hahaha! - You are kidding right? You have to be... The MP3 has to be the worst thing I have ever ridden, no power, no brakes, unstable and very expensive. The worst part of the MP3 is the brakes, 1/4 of a ton with pathetic brakes. Never believe the magazines.
Hi Peter Murray - it's relative - when compared to a big bike, the pre-2014 models have lacklustre brakes (the newer ones are bigger) but compared to most scooters, the MP3 with its three discs is great braking-wise - this review is spot on from a bikers perspective- I used to own a MP3 and will buy one again - pillions find the MP3 much more stable than any Vespa thanks to the third wheel plus when it's icy, rainy or snowy, the MP3 cannot be beat
To help everyone out here could you let us know how long you had your mp3? I know quite a few people who own them as well as other bikes and they say 3 brakes stop the bike quite well. Just wondering what it is with the brakes that you found sub par?
I have owned 3 MP3s (a 2006 MP3 250, 2012 MP3 500 and a 2016 Yourban MP3 300) - for 1 year, 6 months, and just a week respectively
the brakes are superb. .... in any conditions... this is just a bitch crying ... 3 tyres on a wet surface are better than 2 in any case ... u genius. .!!!!!
Brakes better and more stable in the wet
Absolutely wrong! It has poor brakes and feels unstable. You should really ride a real motorcycle once, and see by yourself how much obvious the difference is...
I've just found out vlogger 'Royal Jordanian' has had his 'Nuda' stolen (8 Aug 2015). If anyone knows of one being sold let him know, also go to his You Tube and give him some support. merci, bonne chance.
Thank you for this comment, Glen Pierce. Knowing that RJ's Nuda have been stolen has made me very sad. Through RJ's videos, all his subscribers were riding this bike with him. I have the same feeling that I would have if my own bike was stolen. I hope that it will be found in good condition and that the thief will be punished...
Wel i bought one used for 5000 and it safes a lot in money then buying a motorcycle otherwise me and my girlfriend have to get a motorlicense and that wil cost me 3000 euro and now i buyed one and just drive with car license
Parc de sceaux 👍
Exact :)
Ouais bon le dernier en moto 80 en ville 😱🤔
Merci pour le test mais le conducteur n'a pas du bien comprendre toute l'utilité des 3 roues ..
Ou peut-être surestimes-tu l'utilité de la 3ème roue ? 🤔
Coge rotondas con asfalto mojado,alcantarillas,pintura y baches y después opina...A velocidades legales es lo mejor en seguridad y confort,ojalá haya algún vídeo de alguien que la ponga al límite,así sabríamos todos de lo que es capaz un triciclo de éste tipo...
When you are used to ride a real motorcycle on daily basis, and then try this MP3, the difference is really obvious... The MP3 feels much less stable.
So the best option so far for a 3-wheeled vehicle is still a Morgan.
No doubt about that... 😄
Forgot about Can-Am Spyder?
I HAVE ONE AND IT VERY VERY STABLE THE FASTER I GO..SLOW OR FAST BTW
Every motorbike feels stable the faster you go... It's thanks to the gyroscopic force. And, despite its 3 wheels, the MP3 doesn't feel more stable than other motorbikes.
Found a low mileage one here in the U.S. $3,000
Comme tu l'as dit, la 3ème roue n'apporte qu'une chose pour ma part : un marché au potentiel énorme ! Et ça les businessman l'ont bien vu et on décroché le gros lot ! Piaggio se fait de c**illes en platine avec son MP3
Mais je suis contre ce genre de scooter ! La formation de 7h ne sert à rien et ces personnes qui roulent en 3 roues sont de vrai danger pour eux-même et les autres... Mais bon qui fera changer cette loi ? Le lobbying doit être tellement important et les revenus tellement astronomique que personne ni fera rien...
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Kaouet Il est certain que c'est un succès commercial et financier pour Piaggio. Je suis plutôt d'accord avec toi sur le danger de 3 roues... Laisser les automobilistes conduire des petits scooters 125cm3 ne me choque pas, mais là il s'agit quand même d'une machine de 265 kg et 40 ch. Je ne le reproche pas à Piaggio : ils font du business, tant mieux pour eux. C'est au gouvernement de se poser les bonnes questions (au lieu de mettre des radars et des zone 30 partout). D'ailleurs François Hollande avait un MP3 avant de devenir président...
MrKiddo Je ne le reproche pas à Piaggio non plus, à leur place je ferais de même aussi "business is business". Ils ont trouvé une faille, il l'exploite et c'est normal. C'est sur que le gouvernement devrai faire quelques chose pour limiter ça (agrandir l'entraxe minimal pour arriver à des véhicule type Can-Am bien moins dangeureux), mais je suppose qu'ils doivent y trouver un bénéfice aussi. Après concernant leur mode de répression, ici n'est pas le sujet, mais bon, comme l'a dit Mehdiator "les moyens mis en place sont proportionnelle à la cause sus-nommée"... Le radar dans le pare-choc des mégane qui te flash sans que tu t'en rende compte et donc qui te laisse continuer à rouler trop vite et donc pouvoir te refaire flashé ensuite (peut-être) et donc continuer à mettre la vie des gens en danger.. si ça c'est pas une machine à fric et qui prouve bien qu'ils s'en foutent de diminuer les morts tant qu'ils ont leur bifton..
Je ne suis pas d'accord. Lorsque le sol est humide ou sale et qu'on doit freiner fort ou qu'on passe dans un trou la troisième roue est une bénédiction.
J'en parle en connaissance de cause, j'ai un MP3 400 LT depuis 2009, 35000 km, utilisé majoritairement dans Paris, le périph et les grands axes.
Il m'a évité plusieurs situations très HOT 🔥
Mais as-tu déjà essayé un deux-roues de plus de 125 cm3 ? Tu devrais essayer pour avoir un point de comparaison et constater par toi même comme c'est stable...
Now testride the Yamaha Tricity
RuskyHusky It's not in my current plans. But I noticed the Tricity has high wheels, it's lighter than the MP3 and the price is more reasonable.
I'd rather a PX 150 blowing smoke on everyone behind me. Long live two smoke.