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Looks like you ran into the floating point number imprecision issue. The position coordinates are so large that naturally gravity is not large enough to change their values, so Mario stays in roughly the same place. The camera jittering may be misleading.
Yeah it's this. Swanky isn't up on his parallel universe floating point number lore. In fact based on this video I don't think he has any idea how floating point numbers work.
Gingerbread Man: "Run, Run, as fast as you can! You can't catch me, I'm The Gingerbread Man!" Cosmic Gingerbread Clone: "Run, Run, at the pace that you set! The faster you go, the closer I get!"
It’s just like in the Doctor Who episode “Face the Raven,” isn’t it? Cosmic Clones are analogous to Quantum Shades. Not even a TARDIS can outrun one; eventually, the Shade reaches its target the instant the timer hits 0. 👾
i know my comment means nothing, but thank you for still making mario galaxy content to this day. This game is my childhood, and honestly seeing these videos always brings back great memories.
It means something, obviously. He gave it a like, and you and your comments mean so much more than you think. Thank you for contributing by making comments.
"you're outnumbered, 4 to 1" "you're outnumbered, 4 to 1" "i like those chances" "i like those chances" "no i'm supposed to say it" "no i'm supposed to say it"
I KID YOU NOT I LAUGHED SO HARD AT THE ENDING CAUSE OF HOW IT WENT FROM “the past is marching and you can’t escape as it eats you whole” to “and that’s why you can’t outrun cosmic Mario!” I love Swanky so much!
The idea that random chance determines when mario and the shadow clones collide is very similar to the quantum physics explanation as to why fusion can occur in stars despite not mathematically having enough pressure. The particles can randomly move, or “teleport” into other atoms, fusing them together without actually physically pushing them together.
I believe the reason behind why when mario stops for even a brief moment he gets hit multiple times is that the active gravity is still attempting to pull at Mario. And after being hit by the first clone, your body is steadily being pulled in the opposite direction. As a result, the clones destination is on a position in front of you, so you end up moving towards each other at insane speeds. This is probably why Mario's body contorts in the way it does as well. He has two separate forces, his own speed and gravity, moving him simultaneously in opposite directions. But the speed is greater than the gravitational force so it never evens out until you stop to look at him.
Ok, so half way through the vid, now that we know what you're trying to do. It sounds like you're trying to exploit a floating point number in the tracking of the clones. And that might work, but they might be able to quickly get back on course once you're position is near a number that is easy to represent with a floating point number.
So, you didn't escape the clones... but... I think you may have accidentally created a particle accelerator/particle collider, only it's linear instead of circular. It's kind of fascinating, really.
I may be misremembering, but in the vanilla game (The Chompworks) there *were* some times where the clones later on the line got stuck via falling into the lava and still walking into whatever wall was blocking them.
So I believe what you tried to do was go far enough out for your position data to be overloaded and so cut-off when set as the path data for the clones. Instead, it seems both numbers have the same number of decimal points. Overloading your position puts you in 2 places at once, so the clones were also in 2 places at once, and you're able to be hit in *both* places. If one of those places is approx. where the other place was 2.5 seconds ago, then you'll be hit.
My goodness I always find funny random moments in Swankys content that makes him so enjoyable to watch like this moment here 6:00 just so random it makes me laugh so hard and so informative!
It’s a little simpler than that, they just coded them, same as Mario, but set it so there was a delay to the control input. Them set them as an enemy that would cause damage when interacted with.
Hey Swanky! It's Titan29 from the Zardy's Maze community. Nephryte told me that you're making a video about the process of getting those last few unlisted videos, and I was the one who figured out the timestamps for the crossword section. I solved the puzzle exactly 420 days after the game came out, wrapping up just about everything. I just want to say that I really enjoy ZM, even if I am really bad at it, and between Neph working on the challenge side of things and me working on the puzzle side of things, I'm really looking forward to the next update! In the meantime, I just wanted to say thanks for the game, even if the community has gotten pretty strange over time, and I'm looking forward to new experiences with Zardy and friends ahead! Cheers! (Also out of bounds SMG2 is pretty jank)
Better yet: overloading the floating point values like that can completely crash the game! For example, if you set your speed fo infinite in Super Mario 64 (while standing still) and then jump in an underground level, the entire screen will go black and the game will cause a really bad crash. In fact, the crash is so bad that if you do it on the N64 console with the N64 hardware, or on the Wii U (for both you need hacks or glitches), you'll need to unplug the console, otherwise it won't shut down!
9:17 So you're telling me you made a quantum mechanism inside of the game where every frame processing works as the observer collapsing each frame into one of the two states in the superposition of Mario being hit and not hit
9:37 My theory for here is actually pretty simple. The reason they don't hit Mario immediately after he takes damage and falls is because immediately after taking damage, Mario has a couple seconds of Invincibility Frames where he can't take damage. This is so the player isn't killed immediately if they get swarmed by goombas or kameks or in this case, cosmic clones
it's probably something to do with interpolation of hitboxes in my game i use capsules for that so it might be making a capsule from the current position to the position + velocity thus making tons of cosmic clones able to hit you if you stop maybe (there might be some flaws with this thought) and also imperfect floats would probably work in tandem with the capsules to do that too mario galaxy is probably similar on the capsule thing since every hitbox is a sphere for entities
I’m using this before I watch, and I don’t plant on editing it afterwards, but I feel like since the Cosmic Clones are basically just ghosts, then they would do the same as you.
At the start of the movie i expected the result because with large numbers the accuracy of least significant numbers is dropped resulting in the same number in memory eventually
Is it possible to take a closer look at Comet Observatory in the cutscene, in which Mario is launched towards the planet he's going to, just before the star select?
i did a similar experiment but i ran from the clones for 17 hours and the thing that stopped my expiriment was the point of hitting the shadow realm itself in distance where the console went on fire
I think the reason Mario gets hit so quickly is because the clones fallowing Mario's directional speed data and any speed hacks applied to the clones as a side effect, one that has one small flaw, it doesn't change the speed until the previous ones 2.5 seconds are up, and if a clone overshoots the expected position from the data, it's warped to Mario's x,y coordinates yet it's z coordinate stays the same and it's new directional speed is towards Mario yet still at its previous speed until the 2.5 second window between the clone actions is completed.
Judging from a programming standpoint, I do believe the 50 clone limit is the strict limit of how many Mario actions are recorded into some sort of memory, thus when the 51st clone is created, it tries to access an action outside of the memory, causing an out of bounds error.
I didn't know where to ask this, but I was watching Gray Fruit play this game and while he was fighting King Kaliente is dawned on me that King Kaliente always turns to face you when you're in his fight. You can still walk under the plantet which puts him out of the players view, but it made me think about what happens in that situation. Does he look down at you under the planet and awkwardly turn while looking down?
You should leave this on overnight, endlessly going faster and faster... It would be so overloaded it would probably crash, bit if it didnt it might work.
I don't know why but I'm genuinely mad that super mario galaxy 2 has a better fucking quantum tunneling example than any college physics professor has ever taught
So speaking about this cosmic clone stuff, there is a cool mod for gmod that give you a trail of cosmic clones! Well it mimics literally every move, I change my player model, it changes.
After seeing this I wonder if you can change shadow Mario’s movement not going for the star and if him dying will crash or lag the game. Idk if u can even change his movement
*You see:* these are the *REAL* questions that everyone needs to be asking! Thank you, SwankyBox - for giving us all the answers we _desperately_ needed... nay, the answers we _deserve!_ 🙂
Would it be possible to test the theory you made by using two clones to see how many times mario gets hit, after the first reaches him he should only be hit once more, but it could be that mario's position changing each and every frame could lead him to be hit by the same clone multiple times after reaching that distance
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Awesome Video
@Keebe The Kirby plush ok
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That actually looks really delicious and tasty. I might try it them out sometime, really soon!
And that's why surpassing the speed of light as Mario's clone will always be one of my Pixel Portals.
The hell is a pixel portal?
@@TheSpyFromTeamFortress2 It's an old SwankyBox series. He would say a sentence like that at the end of every video.
It's really surprising how everything works in that game including the cosmic clones
DAMMIT U
u CHEATER
@@Cliffordlonghead Of what?
@@Supergamer_SMM2 U CHEATED
@@Supergamer_SMM2 U didn't watch the whole video
Looks like you ran into the floating point number imprecision issue. The position coordinates are so large that naturally gravity is not large enough to change their values, so Mario stays in roughly the same place. The camera jittering may be misleading.
I was just going to say that
Thats neat
mario moves down not far enough so his Y position rounds back to his current Y position
Yeah it's this. Swanky isn't up on his parallel universe floating point number lore. In fact based on this video I don't think he has any idea how floating point numbers work.
@@Tharronis yea i was 10-11 and i knew how floating point values worked
Cosmic clone Marios: "We're 4 parallel universes ahead of you"
Mario: "Mama-mia!"
Looks like you got a stack of like if you know what I mean
Imagine if Cosmic Mario existed on "Something elsr"
Hhahahaha that comment made laugh so much
Cosmic clones: Mama mia!
Mario looks like he’s duking it out with his shadow clones DBZ style at that speed.
Yup
hahahahaha i died
Gingerbread Man:
"Run, Run, as fast as you can! You can't catch me, I'm The Gingerbread Man!"
Cosmic Gingerbread Clone:
"Run, Run, at the pace that you set! The faster you go, the closer I get!"
This is pretty good
ha, that's witty
Lol
*Me Trying To Run Away From My Depression:*
It’s just like in the Doctor Who episode “Face the Raven,” isn’t it? Cosmic Clones are analogous to Quantum Shades. Not even a TARDIS can outrun one; eventually, the Shade reaches its target the instant the timer hits 0. 👾
i know my comment means nothing, but thank you for still making mario galaxy content to this day. This game is my childhood, and honestly seeing these videos always brings back great memories.
It means something, obviously. He gave it a like, and you and your comments mean so much more than you think. Thank you for contributing by making comments.
@@dominicbonogofski Respect, my man.
Imagine if Cosmic Clones existed in real life
That would make for a good horror movie
"you're outnumbered, 4 to 1"
"you're outnumbered, 4 to 1"
"i like those chances"
"i like those chances"
"no i'm supposed to say it"
"no i'm supposed to say it"
Youre outnumbered four to on- uh i mean 5 to o- uh six... seven... Uhhhhh
Don't stop running
So a Faster version of It follows?
@@ryanremington746 not exactly but similar yes
Mario: *moves at infinite levels of speed*
Speed runner Mario: are you challenging me?
Cosmic Sped Runner Mario: And you think you're any better?
Luigi, who does absolutely nothing yet always wins: "Inferior little insects. I have surpassed you all without moving.
Speedrunner mario : *moves at uncountably infinite speed*
I KID YOU NOT I LAUGHED SO HARD AT THE ENDING CAUSE OF HOW IT WENT FROM “the past is marching and you can’t escape as it eats you whole” to “and that’s why you can’t outrun cosmic Mario!” I love Swanky so much!
“His screaming, mangled corpse plummeted to the planet below.”
I laughed for quite a while at that
What are the limits of the 3D Land version of the clones?
Yeah, good question
The idea that random chance determines when mario and the shadow clones collide is very similar to the quantum physics explanation as to why fusion can occur in stars despite not mathematically having enough pressure. The particles can randomly move, or “teleport” into other atoms, fusing them together without actually physically pushing them together.
a game where random chance determines if you get hit
high damage = high chance
low damage = low chance
I believe the reason behind why when mario stops for even a brief moment he gets hit multiple times is that the active gravity is still attempting to pull at Mario. And after being hit by the first clone, your body is steadily being pulled in the opposite direction. As a result, the clones destination is on a position in front of you, so you end up moving towards each other at insane speeds.
This is probably why Mario's body contorts in the way it does as well. He has two separate forces, his own speed and gravity, moving him simultaneously in opposite directions. But the speed is greater than the gravitational force so it never evens out until you stop to look at him.
Mario: you cant beat me!
Swankybox: i know. But he can.
*Cosmic clones*
Man idk why I love whenever swanky makes a cosmic clone video but I do thank you man you just made my day
Cosmic Clone: Whatever game you're playing, it won't work. You can't defeat me.
Mario: I know... but he can.
(Starman Luigi appears)
You should try being four parallel universes ahead. The scuttlebug is the key.
Ok, so half way through the vid, now that we know what you're trying to do. It sounds like you're trying to exploit a floating point number in the tracking of the clones. And that might work, but they might be able to quickly get back on course once you're position is near a number that is easy to represent with a floating point number.
2:26 That's odd, I don't remember Delfino Plaza Galaxy being in the game.
(Before anyone points it out, I know what a mod is.)
Its a mod. 😇
Before you point it out٫ let me remind you what a JOKE is. 😂
Instructions unclear. No information about “joke” found.
Oh great, seems I played myself like a fiddle.
It's a mod
@@murphmariotwopointoh7714 Instructions unclear. You want me to play the fiddle?
So, you didn't escape the clones... but... I think you may have accidentally created a particle accelerator/particle collider, only it's linear instead of circular. It's kind of fascinating, really.
is each end a wormhole? is it a perpetual motion machine too?
@@dopesickdog no. It's limited (probably) to 10^308 units.
I may be misremembering, but in the vanilla game (The Chompworks) there *were* some times where the clones later on the line got stuck via falling into the lava and still walking into whatever wall was blocking them.
Teacher: "What did you do for your science fair project?"
Me: Uhhhhhhhh
Luigi HAS to be confused by whatever the hell Mario is trying to do.
Mario is masochist confirmed
At 6:03 when you said "His screaming mangled corpse plummeted towards the planet bellow.." I just started laughing. And at 6:48
So I believe what you tried to do was go far enough out for your position data to be overloaded and so cut-off when set as the path data for the clones.
Instead, it seems both numbers have the same number of decimal points. Overloading your position puts you in 2 places at once, so the clones were also in 2 places at once, and you're able to be hit in *both* places. If one of those places is approx. where the other place was 2.5 seconds ago, then you'll be hit.
As someone who grew up with the Galaxy games, it always makes me happy when I see Swanky make a video about them
8:48 this is Literally quantum mechanics
6:14 Boss Magnus von Grapple music! YES!
"This time we're going even farther! I want to see Mario shake into pieces as his remnants scatter into the stars!" - SwankyBox
My goodness I always find funny random moments in Swankys content that makes him so enjoyable to watch like this moment here 6:00 just so random it makes me laugh so hard and so informative!
It’s a little simpler than that, they just coded them, same as Mario, but set it so there was a delay to the control input. Them set them as an enemy that would cause damage when interacted with.
Hey Swanky! It's Titan29 from the Zardy's Maze community. Nephryte told me that you're making a video about the process of getting those last few unlisted videos, and I was the one who figured out the timestamps for the crossword section. I solved the puzzle exactly 420 days after the game came out, wrapping up just about everything. I just want to say that I really enjoy ZM, even if I am really bad at it, and between Neph working on the challenge side of things and me working on the puzzle side of things, I'm really looking forward to the next update! In the meantime, I just wanted to say thanks for the game, even if the community has gotten pretty strange over time, and I'm looking forward to new experiences with Zardy and friends ahead! Cheers! (Also out of bounds SMG2 is pretty jank)
did you find him?
If Mario had infinite speed he would not be able to stop moving so they won’t catch him
Better yet: overloading the floating point values like that can completely crash the game! For example, if you set your speed fo infinite in Super Mario 64 (while standing still) and then jump in an underground level, the entire screen will go black and the game will cause a really bad crash. In fact, the crash is so bad that if you do it on the N64 console with the N64 hardware, or on the Wii U (for both you need hacks or glitches), you'll need to unplug the console, otherwise it won't shut down!
I love how you incidentally end up describing the pear wiggler meme while theorizing about what's happening
Wouldn't infinite speed mean Mario being omnipresent?
"There is a point where we needed to stop and we have clearly passed it... but let's keep going and see what happens" - Swanky, I imagine.
I love your commentary so much, makes it super entertaining while also being fascinating
I'm going to guess before watching the video the answer is "no".
Edit: I was right, but not in the way I expected
Correct
Fun analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
how many years have I been watching this man outrun cosmic clones? too funny buddy nice to see you find a new way to do it every time
I never thought I’d see Mario make a jump to hyperspace but there’s a first time for everything.
Wow, that ending got really deep all of a sudden
This video is the best crossover I've ever seen.
hmmmm "Is it possible to beat Super Mario Galaxy 2 if there are always cosmic clones following you" sounds like a fun challenge
Quantum Mario looks like an electron; but here come the cosmic clones measuring his speed while you try and observe him.
love your content keep up the good work
Cosmic clone : Mario tried to avoid me using infinite speed and space alteration, how foolish...
Mario's own shadow : I know right ?
I was looking. At a video. Apparently they had a way to make it where you can do cosmic clone races
Now I want a Green Demon stye challenge with the Cosmic Clones!
9:17 So you're telling me you made a quantum mechanism inside of the game where every frame processing works as the observer collapsing each frame into one of the two states in the superposition of Mario being hit and not hit
quantum mechanics being creepily similar to floating point errors would fit simulation theory...
No! We don’t need another Speed Demon Mario ever again.
-Something something TerminalMontage.
9:37 My theory for here is actually pretty simple. The reason they don't hit Mario immediately after he takes damage and falls is because immediately after taking damage, Mario has a couple seconds of Invincibility Frames where he can't take damage. This is so the player isn't killed immediately if they get swarmed by goombas or kameks or in this case, cosmic clones
Awesome video!
Surprise dark philosophy at the end.
Cosmic clones take you to dark places.
If a game lets me do it, testing a games floating point is my favorite thing to do.
Cosmic clones would be a really cool antagonist of an anime or something. I'd love to see how the protagonist would defeat them
Stand still for 2 seconds, then shoot/stab/whatever where you just were. Rinse, repeat.
just walk backwards while shooting the clone
NO
@@blaze4109 Here's the problem. They're poisonous to touch. That's why Mario takes damage!
@@nicholasdaisyawesomeness1291 if they are poisonous then why do cosmic clones keep running towards mario? thats kinda mean.
it's probably something to do with interpolation of hitboxes in my game i use capsules for that so it might be making a capsule from the current position to the position + velocity thus making tons of cosmic clones able to hit you if you stop maybe (there might be some flaws with this thought) and also imperfect floats would probably work in tandem with the capsules to do that too mario galaxy is probably similar on the capsule thing since every hitbox is a sphere for entities
You know something I want to see? With all the modding and such you can do, can you make a horror level out of the assets in Galaxy or Sunshine?
Your average speedrunner: ah yes, what you call fast is what we call slow.
I’m using this before I watch, and I don’t plant on editing it afterwards, but I feel like since the Cosmic Clones are basically just ghosts, then they would do the same as you.
At the start of the movie i expected the result because with large numbers the accuracy of least significant numbers is dropped resulting in the same number in memory eventually
Is there a way to measure Mario's speed after 17 minutes?
Is it possible to take a closer look at Comet Observatory in the cutscene, in which Mario is launched towards the planet he's going to, just before the star select?
i did a similar experiment but i ran from the clones for 17 hours and the thing that stopped my expiriment was the point of hitting the shadow realm itself in distance where the console went on fire
and almost blew up
I think the reason Mario gets hit so quickly is because the clones fallowing Mario's directional speed data and any speed hacks applied to the clones as a side effect, one that has one small flaw, it doesn't change the speed until the previous ones 2.5 seconds are up, and if a clone overshoots the expected position from the data, it's warped to Mario's x,y coordinates yet it's z coordinate stays the same and it's new directional speed is towards Mario yet still at its previous speed until the 2.5 second window between the clone actions is completed.
Judging from a programming standpoint, I do believe the 50 clone limit is the strict limit of how many Mario actions are recorded into some sort of memory, thus when the 51st clone is created, it tries to access an action outside of the memory, causing an out of bounds error.
This was strangely epic.
I didn't know where to ask this, but I was watching Gray Fruit play this game and while he was fighting King Kaliente is dawned on me that King Kaliente always turns to face you when you're in his fight. You can still walk under the plantet which puts him out of the players view, but it made me think about what happens in that situation. Does he look down at you under the planet and awkwardly turn while looking down?
Cool! Now try outrunning the Cosmic Clones from Super Mario 3D Land.
6:49
Everyone is here!
I wasn’t expecting to watch a video where Mario is turned into an electron
4:00 TFW you beat the the whole game of Super Mario Galaxy 2 after getting every single Power Star and 9,999 Starbits, then you have a Mario Party
6:01 why is this so funny? XD
Mario's terrified eyes as he attempts to turn into a skin parachute, though. Lol.
U can't escape by going faster... BUT CAN U ESCAPE BY GOING SLOWER?
no
You should leave this on overnight, endlessly going faster and faster... It would be so overloaded it would probably crash, bit if it didnt it might work.
Mario Mario and the RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK face melting begins
I don't know why but I'm genuinely mad that super mario galaxy 2 has a better fucking quantum tunneling example than any college physics professor has ever taught
Wow that was cool
I like that one of the the clones in the thumbnail look mad
cosmic clones in every level mod would be cool
Theory time!🧩
that's terminalmontage's speedrunner mario's greatest fear
So speaking about this cosmic clone stuff, there is a cool mod for gmod that give you a trail of cosmic clones! Well it mimics literally every move, I change my player model, it changes.
do you have a link to it?
link
After seeing this I wonder if you can change shadow Mario’s movement not going for the star and if him dying will crash or lag the game. Idk if u can even change his movement
This man went from making a mod about his game to see what Mario clones do
1:32
6:07
what kinda creepypasta stuff is this
@Ryan Bonaventure 6:16
Thank you for the video.
It would be pretty neat if SwankyBox made a new Pixel Portals video since I comment about it in every video.
this reminds me of that Mario demo of all of the marios in that gravity demo thingy mababor
*You see:* these are the *REAL* questions that everyone needs to be asking!
Thank you, SwankyBox - for giving us all the answers we _desperately_ needed... nay, the answers we _deserve!_ 🙂
Would it be possible to test the theory you made by using two clones to see how many times mario gets hit, after the first reaches him he should only be hit once more, but it could be that mario's position changing each and every frame could lead him to be hit by the same clone multiple times after reaching that distance
Cosmic Clones are the best!
Cosmic Clone be all like: "ThE oNlY tHiNg FaStEr ThAn ThE sPeEd Of LiGhT iS tHe SpEeD oF dArK"
no the speed of dark is 0
Good physics class