Cheadle is better for supporting RDJ, but Terrence Howard matched him with an energy that could steal scenes and take War Machine as a character to another level. If Terrence Howard was still playing War Machine people would be wanting a War Machine solo movie. Guaranteed. EDIT: Okay I'll take the L, Don Cheadle got a War Machine solo series on Disney Plus.
They knew War Machine had potential to out shine Ironman, WE the fans, lost out on an even GREATER MCU. Marvel lo$t out on even more money, because (Terrence Howard) War Machine could have and should have had his own film franchise after Ironman 2. Small thinking on Marvel's part. I would bring Howard back through the Spiderman films via the multiverse, he could be War Machine or even Ironman in those alternate universes.
@@YF-lu8oj It's assumed he got 1 million, which is what they were willing to pay Terrence Howard despite the original contract stating 8 million for Iron Man 2
I like Don Cheadle,but Terrence was meant for the that role. The Iron Man Movies did not feel same after he was gone. Good thing Terrence is making moves now tho.
@@vegan-vrking9565 but RDJ was the main star of the movie, why tf would you pay even just because he's a different skin color even though he's not in the movie for that long? actors get paid based off their role, star power and back catologue not because of skin color, race or religion.
I know that I don't have to go through live needing validation of my beliefs but the wisdom that was understood between two good men on an indirect level amongst one another and shared to the public in a respectful way, gives me peace about my own struggles and the will to overcome what feels like difficult situations and courage when strength isn't enough to mentally pull myself out of them.
Dude, they already said they'd pay him $8m for the second movie and when the time came, they gave him excuses and that they'd only pay him 12.5% of the original agreement. I'd have loved him in the sequels but I seriously don't blame him for this.
And all it would have really taken is Robert to stand by his friend Terrence, who actually helped him obtain the defining role of his career...but instead, Robert turned his back on Terrence and screwed him over big time. What a completely disgusting, and immoral display of betrayal. If I was Terrance, I would be pretty damn bitter, but he's too intelligent for that Hollywood bullshit...
Where was this video hiding last week when I completed my Negotiation and Deal Making presentation for my graduate studies at Full Sail University! I am loving and respecting Terrence Howard even more. Excuse me Dr. Terrence Howard. I Am so proud of him. Not only did he help an elderly neighbor, he earned a Doctorate in Chemical Engineering!!! Growing Diamonds!!!! That's Major! Check out my presentation only had 6 days to choose a topic, research and create and upload.
Unfortunately, Howard's claim of having a PhD is false. He doesn't even have a Bachelor's. The school he mentions (SCSU) has stated that they only gave him an *honorary* degree for a speaking engagement, nothing more. He's a fine actor, certainly intelligent, and may very well be involved in the synthetic diamond business, but he's just embarrassing himself by continually pretending to have a doctorate.
You need to rethink that opinion. He just lied about having a Ph.D. Believe me I was really impressed he said it as I got a B.S. in Electrical Engineering but it's a shame he had to lie about that.
Don cheadle'a okay but it feels like he's just there, even if they cut him off ppl would forget abt him after a while. But Terrance would've rlly brought War Machine to a whole nother level
Sadly he never forgive his friend, he low key blames RDJ and says the money that he was going to get went to him, that is not certain, the studio was the one who cut his pay and they sure had enough to pay RDJ more and still honor Terrence contract.
Personally I was diggin terrence better he fits better with the tony character cause he was more smooth no homo don didnt fit in welli thought just like edward norton was the best hulk
This sheds a bit of light on it. Glad it wasn't as petty as it seemed. I really missed Terrence's emotional delivery but I think Don better fits the War Machine tone. Still gets me in the first film when he finds Tony in the desert though. He REALLY sold that they were *best* friends.
Hard to understand why he didn't know (or understand) the terms of his contract regarding the Iron Man movie. Isn't that what agents and managers are for?
***** good question. Like planned for his third and final album to be called LupEND. How do you go around for years not knowing you're in a 5 album contract?
I think if Terrence was still a part of the production when they offered Don the role and he had went to Terrance and asked him about it, I think it could of potentially got him black balled. You see a lot of black actors and comedians getting black balled for not playing the game the way Hollywood's owners want the game played. ( that's coming from someone who isn't even black)
If Howard would have just took the low ball offer for the 2nd movie he could have easily negotiated a hefty salary for the 3rd movie. No way they would have replaced him after the fans got comfortable with him.
doctorate in chemical engineering? What? Why am I just hearing about this? And why from his own mouth. Thats not news worthy? I guess because its not bad news it doesn't make the media.
I was mad at first with Mr Terrance and did not like Ironman anymore when Mr Cheadle replaced him....even now I will watch the film of Iron man but I won't go to the movies to see it....THE FIRST MOVIE, IRONMAN I LOVED IT WITH TERRANCE HOWARD...glad you explained why...now I like you again too.
Don is better and in the long run..Don fit better as War Machine not just with RDJ but with everyone in the Marvel universe..he clicked better with them.
What you talking about? The guy did just one movie. He never got to interact with the other cast, so you can't say that Don "clicked better" with them.
@@dreabrown-evans4898 I get it. Is just that it kind of implies that both of them got to interact with the rest of the cast when it wasn't the case. Have you seen The Mummy? They filmed 3 movies of it, the first two with the same cast. In the third one they changed the female lead and I didn't feel the new actress "clicked" with the male lead as good as the past actress did, and they are supposed to be husband and wife in the movie. So in this case I find it fair to say that cause we got to see both interactions.
3:44 War Machine was weird without Terrence.Terrence was perfect for the role.And Marvel is making millions off of the franchise without him.And that's a tease for Terrence.I feel bad for him.
And I feel like the part in iron man wasnt like a part fot them to be outstanding actors in. But Terrance is right about the maturity that actors show with getting roles and what noht.
They got more for the money with Terrance. He takes his work seriously and he's good. Don Cheadle is an A lister as well, but he's role as Rody was the writer's poor taste.
Terrance has his docterate in chemical engineering. That deserves a standing ovation. I love Sway but he jump over that to talk about controversy. Terrance look to the side , laughed and shook his head. I would have stayed on that topic for at less 2 more min dang Sway.
HE said he finished, but I don't know. ITs a brilliant concept and I want to invest in the company. This was a very interesting interview because I always felt Don Cheadle should have had the roll, due to his image from Hotel Rowanda and the history of War Machine from the comic books in Africa.
Who he marries or dates has nothing to do with his achievements as a black man. As black people we can see a black man left the world but if he marries a white woman it means nothing because he didn't carry out a forced obligation to marry a black woman? It's not a matter of who black women not being good enough. Its a matter of who makes him fall in love. Let me ask you this. If he was broke on the corner, would people care who he married? Would black women flock to him?
Downey Jr. and Cheadle have better on screen chemistry. It would have been interesting to see how things could have been done differently though, same with Norton as the Hulk.
Terrence is the real Tony Stark with that PhD in Chemical Engineering..."RDJ's" pompous backstabbing ass isn't smart enough to even hold his former friends book bag.
No blame for Marvel No blame for Terrence No blame for Don . No blame for Marvel: -He's just so expensive that time where that cinematic universe was still small. Marvel would not risk it so hard. and also Iron Man 2 is bad. No blame for Terrence Howard: - At least he gave Marvel the best and most remarkable Col. James Rhodes he can. He's a great actor. No blame for Don Cheadle - He's great being the 'War machine', sad that Marvel made Iron Man 2 trash so he did not shine so much. Also sad for him making the Iron Patriot in Iron Man 3. He's great in the next movies.
It may be stupid and it may be racist but we still have to acknowledge that that's how things are. When push comes to shove he is considered a black man and it will effect how he will be treated in certain situations(and in certain parts of the country). And this is generally speaking not just him
dag he coulda spelled out his company, gave us the website...something. anybody find the company name and/or website where he's developing diamonds post it thx
Cheadle is better for supporting RDJ, but Terrence Howard matched him with an energy that could steal scenes and take War Machine as a character to another level. If Terrence Howard was still playing War Machine people would be wanting a War Machine solo movie. Guaranteed.
EDIT: Okay I'll take the L, Don Cheadle got a War Machine solo series on Disney Plus.
This a perfect explanation of their situation. He would be toe to toe with RDJ for the most charismatic.
So Don got half a million or lesser for casting as war machine for Iron man 2?
They knew War Machine had potential to out shine Ironman, WE the fans, lost out on an even GREATER MCU. Marvel lo$t out on even more money, because (Terrence Howard) War Machine could have and should have had his own film franchise after Ironman 2. Small thinking on Marvel's part. I would bring Howard back through the Spiderman films via the multiverse, he could be War Machine or even Ironman in those alternate universes.
@@YF-lu8oj It's assumed he got 1 million, which is what they were willing to pay Terrence Howard despite the original contract stating 8 million for Iron Man 2
Guaranteed. Do I want to see a Don Cheadle solo War Machine movie?? No thanks
Terrance was perfect for that role. Still bummed he got replaced after he said those immortals words from the 1st movie: "Next time baby."
I like Don Cheadle,but Terrence was meant for the that role. The Iron Man Movies did not feel same after he was gone. Good thing Terrence is making moves now tho.
@@dredokkk Then you dont know comics
@@MyFatezero no stfu lol howard was good marvel doesn't honor their contracts and the actors remember that
I don’t really like Terrance because he demanded to be payed more than than RDJ
@@vegan-vrking9565 but RDJ was the main star of the movie, why tf would you pay even just because he's a different skin color even though he's not in the movie for that long? actors get paid based off their role, star power and back catologue not because of skin color, race or religion.
3:45 for the Iron Man Don Cheadle talk.
Juan Boss tyyy!!
This is the best interview I have ever seen with Terrance. You see him in such a different light. Keep moving forward sir...
Don's a good actor but I thought Terrance was really good as Rhodey in the first film. I enjoyed his performance.
Don Cheadle didn't bring it for me. Terrence was the perfect War Machine and even looked like the comic book counterpart
Don don't really fit in with the others. No chemistry
Yh I actually think Howard would’ve been better to continue although a lot of people say they prefer don
Don is definitely better. He made it through. Wen I think war machine I think of don
@@daylight3325 That’s coz ur used to seeing him as war machine howard would of fitted the role 10x more than him
Terrence was looking like "don't bring up iron man..."
I know that I don't have to go through live needing validation of my beliefs but the wisdom that was understood between two good men on an indirect level amongst one another and shared to the public in a respectful way, gives me peace about my own struggles and the will to overcome what feels like difficult situations and courage when strength isn't enough to mentally pull myself out of them.
I'm glad terrance and Don didn't fall in that trap that rappers do when the media try to put each one against the other
Terrance reminds me a bit of Benicio del Torro.
+Sergio Lobato word.they got the same exact aura. and then they got the permanent "faded" face
+Sergio Lobato They both got that nasally voice.
+Sergio Lobato good call!!
+Alison MW lmao I'm weak
Sergio Lobato exactly! Been saying that for years! They look like brothers, almost twins even
Dude, they already said they'd pay him $8m for the second movie and when the time came, they gave him excuses and that they'd only pay him 12.5% of the original agreement. I'd have loved him in the sequels but I seriously don't blame him for this.
And all it would have really taken is Robert to stand by his friend Terrence, who actually helped him obtain the defining role of his career...but instead, Robert turned his back on Terrence and screwed him over big time. What a completely disgusting, and immoral display of betrayal. If I was Terrance, I would be pretty damn bitter, but he's too intelligent for that Hollywood bullshit...
@@onie4024 doesn't make RDJ a bad person calm down trying to paint him as a selfish slime ball.
@@onie4024 Poor Terrence, only offered a MILLION DOLLARS. What a sad and greedy boy.
His performance dated Iron Man, he didn’t play his role good
@@whitedragon9731 coke head defending a coke head
I still prefer him over Don Cheadle in the role...both are good actors though.
How does Hollywood get away with replacing a 6'2 " light skinned black man with a 5'7" dark man that's like replacing Tom Hanks with Danny Devito.
Where was this video hiding last week when I completed my Negotiation and Deal Making presentation for my graduate studies at Full Sail University! I am loving and respecting Terrence Howard even more. Excuse me Dr. Terrence Howard. I Am so proud of him. Not only did he help an elderly neighbor, he earned a Doctorate in Chemical Engineering!!! Growing Diamonds!!!! That's Major! Check out my presentation only had 6 days to choose a topic, research and create and upload.
Both actors are amazing and I do agree with Terrence that they should not allow themselves to be set against each other.
I hate that they shit on him after he was so good in Ironman.
Unfortunately, Howard's claim of having a PhD is false. He doesn't even have a Bachelor's. The school he mentions (SCSU) has stated that they only gave him an *honorary* degree for a speaking engagement, nothing more. He's a fine actor, certainly intelligent, and may very well be involved in the synthetic diamond business, but he's just embarrassing himself by continually pretending to have a doctorate.
Yikes the diamond stuff didn't work out well
you are now my favorite actor! well educated and respectful!!!!!!!
"If you look back at the past , you're gonna end up tripping over the future"...so true
I’ve met mr. Howard at work, such a great man in person
I got a new found respect for Terrence Howard.
His role as war machine he seemed aggressive, put Tony Stark in his place, and not make excuses for him, and was never a sidekick to me which I like
Wow, they completely screwed him for Iron Man 2. I'm glad he didn't accept that deal. What assholes.
I learned slot from this interview and have high respect for Mr Howard even more now :-)
You need to rethink that opinion. He just lied about having a Ph.D. Believe me I was really impressed he said it as I got a B.S. in Electrical Engineering but it's a shame he had to lie about that.
LOVE watching terrance in interviews. he is so intelligent and he is great to listen to :)
When you get the inside information on drama you didnt even know about in the first place.
Terrence Howard is real professional. Props.
Don cheadle'a okay but it feels like he's just there, even if they cut him off ppl would forget abt him after a while. But Terrance would've rlly brought War Machine to a whole nother level
Don and Terrance are both class guys :)
4:41 "Now I have a company where we grow diamonds... "
"grow diamonds " Marinate on that for a moment.
The best line Terrance ever delivered (imo) "you wouldn't get it anyway". Name the movie...
damn glad everything worked out for him 👍🏻
Oswaldo Cortes same
I am so glad he explained the beef with iron man, cuz I thought he was being a greedy bastard with a overinflated ego...changed my mind.
yeah me too. thought he was an asshole before I wathced this video even though this was recorded 4 yyears ago :(
Sadly me too. I'm an ass...
Just Marvel has a problem honoring contracts lol
Sadly he never forgive his friend, he low key blames RDJ and says the money that he was going to get went to him, that is not certain, the studio was the one who cut his pay and they sure had enough to pay RDJ more and still honor Terrence contract.
@@Julia-tn2iy nigga thays exac3 what happened
Personally I was diggin terrence better he fits better with the tony character cause he was more smooth no homo don didnt fit in welli thought just like edward norton was the best hulk
Terrence performance was so memorable.
Excellent conversation with Terrence on SWAYinthemorning.
They should have paid him and made Iron Man 3 his breakout movie as a badass War Machine. Too bad.
Imagine seeing him as a different War Machine in Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness
Somewhere Tony Stark is laughing at his two friends who used to pilot the Warmachine
why is everyone beating up on this guy he ok
... For real ... T. Howard is aaight ! ...
This sheds a bit of light on it. Glad it wasn't as petty as it seemed. I really missed Terrence's emotional delivery but I think Don better fits the War Machine tone.
Still gets me in the first film when he finds Tony in the desert though. He REALLY sold that they were *best* friends.
Congrats Terrance on getting his doctorates degree in chemical engineering. Best wishes and much continued success.
Dope quote from Terrance
Well Said!
He has to get his story straight. He said they didn't invite him back then he said they gave him a lowball offer and he walked away.
Hard to understand why he didn't know (or understand) the terms of his contract regarding the Iron Man movie. Isn't that what agents and managers are for?
***** good question. Like planned for his third and final album to be called LupEND. How do you go around for years not knowing you're in a 5 album contract?
I think if Terrence was still a part of the production when they offered Don the role and he had went to Terrance and asked him about it, I think it could of potentially got him black balled. You see a lot of black actors and comedians getting black balled for not playing the game the way Hollywood's owners want the game played. ( that's coming from someone who isn't even black)
If Howard would have just took the low ball offer for the 2nd movie he could have easily negotiated a hefty salary for the 3rd movie. No way they would have replaced him after the fans got comfortable with him.
Well Stated Terrance, I appreciate ur articulation :)
He sounds like Morris Day when he talks lol.
doctorate in chemical engineering? What? Why am I just hearing about this? And why from his own mouth. Thats not news worthy? I guess because its not bad news it doesn't make the media.
+star999nine...but that's the ramblings of a fucking nut.
+MrMarkpark Terrance is the man!
I was surprised too and immediately looked it up.
El Guapo Did he say Chemical Engineering!
El Guapo in my JayZ Voice "Preach"
Very Interesting
Agreed. I'm Black and I'm getting pretty sick of all the self pity.
I was mad at first with Mr Terrance and did not like Ironman anymore when Mr Cheadle replaced him....even now I will watch the film of Iron man but I won't go to the movies to see it....THE FIRST MOVIE, IRONMAN I LOVED IT WITH TERRANCE HOWARD...glad you explained why...now I like you again too.
Don is better and in the long run..Don fit better as War Machine not just with RDJ but with everyone in the Marvel universe..he clicked better with them.
What you talking about? The guy did just one movie. He never got to interact with the other cast, so you can't say that Don "clicked better" with them.
@@ezarrgames3108 Sweetheart it is my opinion.
@@dreabrown-evans4898 I get it. Is just that it kind of implies that both of them got to interact with the rest of the cast when it wasn't the case.
Have you seen The Mummy? They filmed 3 movies of it, the first two with the same cast. In the third one they changed the female lead and I didn't feel the new actress "clicked" with the male lead as good as the past actress did, and they are supposed to be husband and wife in the movie. So in this case I find it fair to say that cause we got to see both interactions.
How do you know that site is telling the truth?
3:44
War Machine was weird without Terrence.Terrence was perfect for the role.And Marvel is making millions off of the franchise without him.And that's a tease for Terrence.I feel bad for him.
He is going to be in The MultiVerse!!!
wow Terrence is giving some great interviews :))
Here you go bro.
Scio Diamond Technology Corporation (SCIO) -OTC BB
And I feel like the part in iron man wasnt like a part fot them to be outstanding actors in. But Terrance is right about the maturity that actors show with getting roles and what noht.
My top three actors who would play war machine;robbie Jones, Chris tucker, kel Mitchell..in the MCU
Still one of those things that pisses me off and makes me sad. He would of been great as war machine end of.
Dang if they wanted don should of just went with him from the beginning then. Even tho I consider Terrence the real rhodey at this point
They got more for the money with Terrance. He takes his work seriously and he's good.
Don Cheadle is an A lister as well, but he's role as Rody was the writer's poor taste.
Shani 2016 Cheadle is a B lister he doesn’t work for Rhodey
@@Tellitonreddit. Cheadle B list? In what imaginary world?
Terrance has his docterate in chemical engineering. That deserves a standing ovation. I love Sway but he jump over that to talk about controversy. Terrance look to the side , laughed and shook his head. I would have stayed on that topic for at less 2 more min dang Sway.
DAMN! I used to rock MY headphones like that back in the day LMMFAO
Beautiful.
Don cheadle was the best in the movie him and him and Rob are almost the same age
A Chemical Engineer? Damn that's Bad-Ass
The company looks promising too
but Don looks NOTHING like Terrance!
HE said he finished, but I don't know. ITs a brilliant concept and I want to invest in the company. This was a very interesting interview because I always felt Don Cheadle should have had the roll, due to his image from Hotel Rowanda and the history of War Machine from the comic books in Africa.
If that's the case, why is money an issue for actors that are so called a-listed.
"We cant have you growing diamonds, making a difference in the scientific field,,, boy, throw on this gold chain and act like a music producer!"
Terrance should portray Smokey Robinson some day.
Is this the guy who beat ludacris?
Ion know I can't really picture Terrance howard as Rhodes in the later movies.
terrence howard looks like benicio deltoro, he talks like him too.. are they twins???
they got that chill, swag thang going on.
Too funny! You're right
Lol I wanted to hear Nores question lol
Don cheadle is the shit too both outstanding black actors
Ive luv ths man since back in the day and nw he grows diamonds i just finished lmao :)
Sway! Sway! Sway! Please have Solothegroup on with their new Album!!! Please Sway!!! Looking for to hearing what happened to them!!!
People in the comments really saying this guy could have had his own solo movie and should have been paid as much as RDJ 🤣
Don and Terrance may not have beef with no one but I do.....I hate super hero recast with a passion especially with the hulk and Spider-Man......😭
i thought i was the only one
Your not alone bro
Only Hulk was recast. Spider-Man had different versions.
Tinker B What's the difference?
That’s facts ❤ Ik I’m late
Who he marries or dates has nothing to do with his achievements as a black man. As black people we can see a black man left the world but if he marries a white woman it means nothing because he didn't carry out a forced obligation to marry a black woman? It's not a matter of who black women not being good enough. Its a matter of who makes him fall in love. Let me ask you this. If he was broke on the corner, would people care who he married? Would black women flock to him?
How the heck do I grow a diamond? Please tell me. Which seeds do I use?
lol i remember when he was on the show sparks with miguel nunez jr and he was the younger brother side charecter funny how be blew up.
dang terrance and sway kinda look alike when sway's head was down
Downey Jr. and Cheadle have better on screen chemistry. It would have been interesting to see how things could have been done differently though, same with Norton as the Hulk.
Terrence is the real Tony Stark with that PhD in Chemical Engineering..."RDJ's" pompous backstabbing ass isn't smart enough to even hold his former friends book bag.
Why isn't he talking about Empire
Really did you look at the date on this smh 2 years ago
2pacexpert this interview is from 2012. No Empire to talk about then
you a dumb ass nigga man lol
+Glorie Mpaka haha
3:50
Is that HEATHER B??? I aint seen her face since the Real World!! lol Glad shes still working somewhere..
No blame for Marvel
No blame for Terrence
No blame for Don
.
No blame for Marvel:
-He's just so expensive that time where that cinematic universe was still small. Marvel would not risk it so hard. and also Iron Man 2 is bad.
No blame for Terrence Howard:
- At least he gave Marvel the best and most remarkable Col. James Rhodes he can. He's a great actor.
No blame for Don Cheadle
- He's great being the 'War machine', sad that Marvel made Iron Man 2 trash so he did not shine so much. Also sad for him making the Iron Patriot in Iron Man 3. He's great in the next movies.
Can someone tell me who the highest paid actor in the MCU is? Is it still RDJ?
C Sanders it was ultron
Terrance is a real ass brother speaking for the heart!
Lol if Marvel ever pulls a Star Wars and does a special edition of the Infinity Saga it would be cool to see Don in the first Iron man
He's got a doctorate in chemical engineering but doesn't know how to talk into a mic. Love this world!
Is still here
It may be stupid and it may be racist but we still have to acknowledge that that's how things are. When push comes to shove he is considered a black man and it will effect how he will be treated in certain situations(and in certain parts of the country). And this is generally speaking not just him
dag he coulda spelled out his company, gave us the website...something. anybody find the company name and/or website where he's developing diamonds post it thx