How to Study Orchestration as a Film Composer

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @ZachHeyde
    @ZachHeyde  Год назад

    Hey there! If you want to learn how to build a career writing film & game music, check out my 6-week Composing Career Bootcamp:
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  • @stretchbatchelor
    @stretchbatchelor 2 года назад +10

    “internalize it” is everything. Singing the parts. listening to voice leading. honored fir your attention and focus 👍🎶

  • @jamus1217
    @jamus1217 2 года назад +17

    Mockups are a great exercise in so many ways. Composition, orchestration, MIDI programming, workflow. This was one of the first pieces i ever did a mockup of back when Hollywood Strings was the real deal. You know what, they still are 😂

    • @TheUnderscore_
      @TheUnderscore_ Год назад

      I wish I could say the same about the new Hollywood Orchestra Opus strings... man, they're out of tune. The legato isn't too bad at least. I don't regret buying it though.

    • @mishakallivroussismusic
      @mishakallivroussismusic Год назад +1

      @@TheUnderscore_ The Legato is really good in my opinion, what seems really out of tune is the pizzicato in the violins and violas, couldn't use that doubled with woodwinds. But the rest of the library is really good, especially the brass and the 18 violins patch.

    • @TheUnderscore_
      @TheUnderscore_ Год назад +1

      @@mishakallivroussismusic Agreed. The legato's definitely above average, but compared to legato-focused libraries, it's not nearly as good (the transitions can be very... outstanding). I'm loving everything else though, definitely a worthwhile buy.

    • @russell_szabados
      @russell_szabados 9 месяцев назад

      I’m still new to the mock-up game and subscribe to ComposerCloud. Do you all have any opinions about the Hollywood Fantasy Orchestra?

    • @russell_szabados
      @russell_szabados 9 месяцев назад

      @@mishakallivroussismusicI noticed that about the viola pizz but assumed I wasn’t hearing it correctly. Thanks for adding your comment.

  • @msoundz
    @msoundz Год назад +8

    Wish I had the ability to write something as good as that in such a short space of time. Amazing! Great video.

  • @captainbeastazoid7084
    @captainbeastazoid7084 Год назад +2

    Fantastic, Zach. Your content is fantastic.

  • @homeofcreation
    @homeofcreation Год назад +3

    Awesome break down. I play the Oboe and I always start my practice with scales and long notes and then the solo from the second movement just because it is one of the nicest oboe solos ever. Keep in mind that Rimski wasn't all that fond of the Oboe at all.

  • @SAPOINSATTE
    @SAPOINSATTE Год назад +2

    Great piece to study orchestration from. Korsakov's own book on this is worth the read as well👍

  • @falaghsepehr5504
    @falaghsepehr5504 2 года назад +2

    It would be awesome if you make a video about setting up different templates for different approaches to writing/orchestrating.

    • @ZachHeyde
      @ZachHeyde  2 года назад

      Good suggestion Falagh!

  • @juanricardosanchezlopez3275
    @juanricardosanchezlopez3275 2 года назад +1

    Very instructive and very well explained. Thanks

  • @GregGordonSmith
    @GregGordonSmith 2 года назад

    Really great, thanks for making this

  • @cyprienchrnx3809
    @cyprienchrnx3809 2 года назад +1

    Very good idea :) Great vid again !

  • @jacksonwagnersilva6324
    @jacksonwagnersilva6324 2 года назад

    Wow, thank you so much for this video!! I'm glad that I have access to this quality of content this easily!! Man, this is really special!! Also, loveee this piece!!

  • @timetrack_music
    @timetrack_music 2 года назад

    This is super helpful!!! Really enjoyed your video. THANK YOU ZACH:)

  • @pjdahmen
    @pjdahmen 2 года назад

    thank you for the great tutorial.

  • @alessandrodacconti7026
    @alessandrodacconti7026 2 года назад +3

    Great video, extremely useful and inspiring! I've a question about dynamics: what are your points of reference in order to properly translate p/ mf/ f etc. score indications for each instrumental section without messing up with the balance between strings and winds?

  • @erzloh
    @erzloh 2 года назад

    How is this content free! Absolute gold knowledge here, thank you so much for your content Zach!! :D

  • @artypianowithlove
    @artypianowithlove Год назад

    😮Thank u

  • @momilan
    @momilan 2 года назад

    Subscribed! Thanks for this 😭

  • @DarqIce
    @DarqIce Год назад +1

    I generously give likes for any kind of statement like "I was gonna do this for myself, but I thought if I recorded it, it might be interesting to others as well" :P
    Thank you, much appreciated!

    • @DarqIce
      @DarqIce Год назад

      I also love it how you're doing it by ear - some of us don't have a proper musical education (mostly, we can't read musical notation) and makes us feel a lot less inadequate if we started dabling in music purely on talent and learning music theory on a NEED to learn basis :D DAWs have sort of turned this whole mechanism around, making notation sort of a second thought. It's fine, but when you're trying to analize, it's a hinderance... but you can still do mockups through careful listening :D and learn that way.

  • @user-vf3is3hm6c
    @user-vf3is3hm6c 2 года назад

    Great job as always 👏👏

  • @raymondspagnuolo8222
    @raymondspagnuolo8222 2 года назад

    Zach, this was amazing! Can you do more of the same!!!!

  • @emanuel_soundtrack
    @emanuel_soundtrack 2 года назад +4

    this is the right way. Forget “orchestration tips” on youtube. It is all about relating timbres to musical form. not showing “you can this you can that”

    • @maxwellkowal3065
      @maxwellkowal3065 7 месяцев назад

      If you don't know the other ways to use instruments, your pallet will be pretty standard and unremarkable

  • @PKUO-uy7ss
    @PKUO-uy7ss Год назад +1

    Hi Zach, love your content! it's super helpful. Can I ask for some books recommendations to study orchestration pls? Thank you!

    • @ZachHeyde
      @ZachHeyde  Год назад

      Check out Rimsky Korsakov's book, and "Creative Orchestration" by George McKay :)

  • @DaveKingsMusic
    @DaveKingsMusic Год назад

    Loved the video Zach. Could you recommend more Orchestra Scores we should study to learn the same way?

    • @mosstet
      @mosstet 7 месяцев назад

      He did Holst's Planets in another video. Quite easy to pick up a score for it.

  • @alexgerlach5630
    @alexgerlach5630 2 года назад

    Awesome!

  • @russell_szabados
    @russell_szabados 9 месяцев назад

    Hi, I just discovered your channel and this video is *so* helpful. I’m scoring a short student film now but as soon as I’m done, I’m going to start practicing orchestration as you’ve recommended.
    * The mouthpiece you’re using: are you using that to add CC11 data? Thx!

    • @ZachHeyde
      @ZachHeyde  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! And it controls modulation (CC1) 🙂

    • @russell_szabados
      @russell_szabados 9 месяцев назад

      @@ZachHeyde thank you for your reply. Can it be easily added to Logic Pro X, and can I reassign it to CC11? What is its name?
      Actually, I’m sure I could using a cable switcher in the environment or with one of the MIDI plugins. Ok, answered my own question. All the best!

  • @omerfaran8514
    @omerfaran8514 Год назад

    Great video! I think there are a few mistakes (please correct me if I'm wrong) 1. The first notes of the viola are different 2. The bassoon part should be an octave lower 3. The horns part is actually for trombones and tuba? Nonetheless very inspiring I'm just a beginner getting into orchestration

    • @simpletwo4768
      @simpletwo4768 Год назад

      yeah I also found that 'horns part' is actually the trbs on the score after following him

  • @kevinmkraft
    @kevinmkraft 2 года назад +1

    And what is the mouthpiece you are using on your headset for some instruments??? I'd never seen that before.

    • @ZachHeyde
      @ZachHeyde  2 года назад +1

      That's the TEControl Breath Controller!

    • @kevinmkraft
      @kevinmkraft 2 года назад

      @@ZachHeyde Fascinating. Can you explain briefly what it does and what advantages it provides over simply inputting notes using a keyboard alone?

  • @finemusic1000
    @finemusic1000 Год назад

    Hi Zach, Just like to passing by to let you know how much I enjoy your channel :-)

  • @santir5091
    @santir5091 2 года назад

    Very good video! Thank you so much! is it a new orchestral template?

    • @ZachHeyde
      @ZachHeyde  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! I'm always updating my personal template :)

    • @santir5091
      @santir5091 2 года назад

      @@ZachHeyde I bought the one you made, and it seems to me absolutely perfect. I'm adding my libraries to it and it works great. Thank you!!

  • @julianrmunds
    @julianrmunds Год назад

    Hi Zach, long time composer but new to DAWs. What is that thing you are putting in your mouth? Is it replicating breath in woodwinds and brass?

  • @franciscoaragao5398
    @franciscoaragao5398 Год назад

    Why did you not play with the right timbre (vst)?

  • @romoloolomi5757
    @romoloolomi5757 Год назад

    Ciao Zach una domanda. Cos’è quel controllo volume con i fede che utilizzi per dare espressione al suono? Aumenta poi diminuisce specialmente sulle note lunghe. Come si chiama? Si può comprare? Grazie mille e complimenti

  • @kevinmkraft
    @kevinmkraft 2 года назад

    This is really great! Thank you! May I ask...what VST, patch-ins or plug-in do you use? And what DAW?

    • @ZachHeyde
      @ZachHeyde  2 года назад

      Thanks! Logic Pro--you can find the VSTs I use on my website 😁

  • @martin-raison-music-composer
    @martin-raison-music-composer Год назад

    Hi ! :) 4:28 what is this thing you are putting around your neck ? 🧐

  • @clog9608
    @clog9608 Год назад

    Hey Zach, very interesting video. I've personally never studied any score and I was wondering out of curiosity if you knew any source (website ?) where we could find film/videogame scores for orchestra ?

    • @ZachHeyde
      @ZachHeyde  Год назад +1

      Check out Omni Music Publishing!

  • @PepePerezMusic
    @PepePerezMusic 2 года назад +2

    Great video, what is this mouth modulator? 😳

    • @jamesleatherbarrow635
      @jamesleatherbarrow635 2 года назад

      I was wondering the same thing.

    • @ZachHeyde
      @ZachHeyde  2 года назад +2

      Thanks! It's the TEControl breath controller!

    • @PepePerezMusic
      @PepePerezMusic 2 года назад

      @@ZachHeyde Cool!
      thanks Zach, I love the videos, keep it up!

  • @paulthiebaut
    @paulthiebaut 2 года назад

    Hey Zach ! I was wondering where you got the score for this piece and if there was a website to download public domain orchestral scores ?

    • @ZachHeyde
      @ZachHeyde  2 года назад +1

      Check out IMSLP.org !

    • @paulthiebaut
      @paulthiebaut 2 года назад

      @@ZachHeyde Will do ! Thanks !

  • @TheEtmulder
    @TheEtmulder 2 года назад

    Hey Zach, what is a good site to purchase sheet music from? Most sites I can find only have sheet music for piano

    • @ZachHeyde
      @ZachHeyde  2 года назад +1

      IMSLP has this one up for free! I also use SheetMusicPlus 👍🏻

  • @timetrack_music
    @timetrack_music 2 года назад

    Do you have any recommendations for orchestration textbooks?

    • @ZachHeyde
      @ZachHeyde  2 года назад +1

      Summer!! Thank you, hope you've been well 😁 I just picked up "Creative Orchestration" and its FANTASTIC, really different from other books I've read. Highly recommend!

    • @timetrack_music
      @timetrack_music 2 года назад

      @@ZachHeyde Thanks Zach, hope you've well too. I lost my gmail account and haven't figured out a way to stay in touch (can't believe I'm saying this in the 21st century lol). But please know that I'm always following your works here! ;D

    • @timetrack_music
      @timetrack_music 2 года назад

      I actually chose some books before I got your recommendation. And I just checked my purchased list, guess what, the first book I picked was "Creative Orchestration"

    • @ZachHeyde
      @ZachHeyde  2 года назад

      All good Summer, so awesome to hear from you 😁 Message me anytime in the comments! One of these days I'll grab WhatsApp haha 😁

  • @jingleskhanaudioproductions
    @jingleskhanaudioproductions 2 года назад

    where do you studio guys get this chair? It looks so cosy

  • @giuseppedaizzole7025
    @giuseppedaizzole7025 2 года назад

    Hey Zach..how you doing?...congratulations for ur channel...i have a question,something that call my attention....do you allways use note on,quantizing like u do in this video?...it call my attention cause i give to it a very very high value when is about a realistic feel.....ill like to know ur opinion plese...thanks!

    • @ZachHeyde
      @ZachHeyde  2 года назад +1

      Hey there! Yes I do, though not everyone does... I find it easier when giving scores to copyists, and most VSTs these days have some variance in delay which makes them sound more realistic and imperfect, even WITH quantization :)

    • @giuseppedaizzole7025
      @giuseppedaizzole7025 2 года назад

      @@ZachHeyde thanks for answering...good luck!!