That was also my goal while creating this video. There are just a lot of other videos regarding german and balkans ultras (which they are great), but we are at the same level imo. Maybe I should create a soecific video of them…
I believe I am doing very unbiased videos about MLS fanbases. Yet, all you had to say is that Inter Miami is ONLY Messi hype... Doesn't sound like an unbiased opinion to me.
@@Addict10nFootball It's not ONLY Messi hype, but a lot of it is. Before Messi signed for the club they couldn't even come close to selling out their tiny stadium and no one talked about them. Then they win the ridiculous Leagues Cup with Messi and everyone calls them the most important team in MLS history. Also 99% of the comments on their highlights are just praising Messi. So it isn't very difficult to see that nearly all of the club's fanbase are Messi fans. I mean the club's entire Marketing campaign, and MLS's aswell, is just, "We have Messi, so you should watch us." Also the bending of the rules by MLS just so Inter Miami can win a trophy really makes the club and league feel like a Messi league.
@@AmbushRL. I know what you mean... Doing the Inter Miami video, I found it hardest to even find a Facebook group with actual, local fans.. Usually I try to connect with some people beforehand but with Inter I could literally just find groups from around the world - of course that ain't healthy! As I said in the video, the character test is gonna come once Messi retires, moves on, whatever.. But I think the problem isn't the club, it's the MLS itself, trying to milk it as much as possible.
Why are there so many rainbow flags at the Portland Timbers, what do they have to do with football? That's already a plus point for Europe, in Europe they are hoisted the flags of the clubs and not of gays.
@@thenightspitter But believe me, it gets worse. In Germany, the rainbow flag is on the German government buildings, and they say because of tolerance and diversity... what a pathetic people the Germans are.
@@Schloch83 I would say so. Especially with the interest around the World Cup in 2022 and it coming to North America in 2026. Local clubs are growing too, my club has sold out every game in it's history.
@@Schloch83ya NHL is big largely thanks to Canada which has 7 teams in the league while Canada only has 3 teams in MLS all from Canada’s 3 largest markets: Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver. In the States, MLS is more popular, especially for those under 50
Il Tifo Statunitense è spesso deriso da quello Europeo per ovvi motivi, ma se anche loro stanno iniziando a capire la mentalità che c'è dietro il Tifare nel Calcio, si può iniziare a rispettare il loro movimento pur mantenendo questa sorta di "rivalità" tra Vecchio e Nuovo Continente
Concordo in pieno, anche perché onestamente sono rimasto piacevolmente colpito specialmente dai Los Angeles FC. Si vede che stanno migliorando e pian piano capiscono cosa vuol dire tifare. Ciò che manca(va) a loro è una storia di rivalità (che accendono la passione e il tifo) tra le varie città
@@alexanderstasolla Infatti la tifoseria del Los Angeles FC sembra abbia molta influenza sudamericana.. per caso sai come si dividono le tifoserie nel Derby di LA? magari tra Cittadini Ispanofoni e Anglofoni (?)
Allora da quello che ho letto in maniera veloce su reddit, la situazione è questa. I LAFC hanno superato di popolarità gli LA Galaxy in brevissimo tempo perché durante la fase di creazione della società, hanno fatto partecipare gli abitanti delle parti sud ed est di Los Angeles, questo ha portato le persone a sentirsi parte di qualcosa, appassionandosi decisamente di più. Oltre a questo, un utente ha detto che gli LA Galaxy preferivano i "bianchi" o chi aveva i soldi (specialmente nel settore giovanile), di conseguenza discriminando gli ispanofoni. In breve, gli LA Galaxy hanno provato ad americanizzare il calcio sfruttando i tifosi come clienti, mentre i LAFC hanno costruito il club attorno ai fan/popolazione (specialmente ispanofona), anche per questo si vede chiaramente un'influenza sud-americana. Ovviamente questo ha poi portato ad un mix tra americani e ispanofoni all'interno della tifoseria degli LAFC.
I'm from Hungary and I live in Columbus OH. I be real. Sometimes I go to the Columbus Crew game. The atmosphere is unreal, but I think can't compare it to European football. It has over 120+ years of history, and mls only has less than 30 lol. Surely it's getting there, but Americans still have to learn from Europeans.lol
They def got a better atmosphere than the english leagues. People that keep hating on the MLS developing a fan culture are just enemies of the movement. Let's just hope that the Americans don't just take strong inspiration from the Ultras movement when it comes to the way they support but also learn our mentality, especially when it comes to our opinions on commercialisation of our sport!
Bel video... complimenti!!! Calcolando che il "soccer" ( come lo chiamano loro) non è il loro sport nazionale ho visto gli stadi belli pieni... direi che cominciano a capire i valori del tifare...
Americans pre game stuff is really good it’s just the cringeworthy chants they need to sort out but they are improving year by year and it’s good to see. We know they will never have the hooligan culture of England, Italy etc but their in ground stuff is looking good
Thanks! I love Italian football! A more fair comparison would be Serie A with D1 NCAA (American) football and basketball. That is where our passion, community, and history is strongest. Soccer is our 4th or 5th most popular team sport, and MLS is only our 6th or 7th most popular league. Change may come though…😁
You also see that in Europe. Think of that what you want but it does show that there seems to be a fanscene with a clear self identity, which should always be something positive.
@AhStop Explain to me how supporting lgbt goes against the ultra mentality. I'd argue it doesn't because ultra is not directly linked to any political beliefs and it's mentality can be applied to all political directions.
@@didid2905 Really?.. You need me to explain that?.. If you need an explanation you haven't a clue when it comes to Ultra Groups. You do understand lgbt groups aren't widely accepted. People put up with it. Football clubs only bother with it because of the bad publicity if they didn't. Honestly, lgbt is just another political angle. They are basically 2.8% of the population which is nothing. It's just bizarre why they even need a flag. Pointless.
@@didid2905 ultras are strong those people are weak, I mean if you get into a fight with the other teams hooligans or ultras you're cooked😂 Do you even know that some ultra groups train their fighting?
Non possiamo considerare un paese dove il proprietario domani si può alzare e può cambiare nome colori e città ad una squadra , le leghe americane e la vera passione sportiva sono lontani anni luce
Oltretutto non hanno neanche un sistema di retrocessione o altro, questo rende i campionati veramente noiosi. Anche se stanno pensando di inserirlo. In ogni caso il calcio negli stati uniti è nato strutturato come sono strutturati gli altri loro sport nazionali, ma il trend è chiaro che si sta spostando in un sistema più simile a quello europeo/mondiale
Ci avevo pensato, ma sarebbe durato troppo il video. Sto pensando di fare un video dedicato però, in cui mettere coreografie, video delle trasferte e altre clip
Devo essere sincero, sono rimasto sorpreso! Non credevo che negli Stati Uniti il calcio fosse così seguito, anche se non è il loro sport nazionale. E tanto meno che ci fossero delle vere e proprie tifoserie. Non a livello europeo, ma comunque mi sembrano delle buone tifoserie. Mi fa piacere che il calcio negli USA sia in crescita. Poi i mondiali daranno ulteriore spinta.
Se non erro è lo sport più in crescita da un paio di anni a sta parte negli US, poi ovviamente gli imminenti mondiali stanno aiutando. Comunque sono rimasto sorpreso dai LAFC
@@alexanderstasolla I had made a long, five paragraph comment about the state of our soccer landscape but my wifi cut out just as I hit send. Can't be bothered to re-type so i'll summarize a few of the points and expand on others. -There is a soccer culture, but it's stunted. Soccer is by far the most popular sport for kids to be enrolled in at young ages, but after a certain age it falls off dramatically due to immense cost. Most youth change to other sports like basketball and baseball after that certain age. There is also a lot of ignorance about soccer's existence outside of the World Cup. You'd be hard pressed to find a young American that isn't at least aware of one or two Premier League clubs, but they're not making their own decisions early on. It's the parents that are the problem (not as big of a problem as inadequate coaching, cost, youth development structure, etc.). There is a multitude of older folk that have no idea that soccer leagues exists, their knowledge of soccer does not extend past knowing the World Cup is merely a tournament that they don't care too much about, and therefore in their ignorance they make the decision to steer their children into other sports. The most infamous example that I can think of is when a reporter asked a German player signed to an MLS club if he thought that he could lead the MLS club to a World Cup title. Absolute idiocracy. - Anti-soccer sentiment in sports/news media - MLS having been relegated to a footnote on sports broadcasts and television for most of its 30 year history. Apple deal changed that, now they can show their content how they want with no constraints - Clubs market solely to cities and not regions, unlike other American sports leagues - American soccer landscape has been plagued by lack of stability for most of its history (financial collapse of original American Soccer League and the NASL, plethora of regional leagues and lower tier national leagues that would sprout up after the collapse of the aforementioned ASL and NASL). - MLS lacks a monopoly on the sport, lower leagues continue to survive and thive (Apart from amateur leagues and sunday leagues, to my knowledge there is only one half-decent league that exists outside the control of the big four NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL leagues. Notably, a point of recent controversy has been the restructuring of the lower professional baseball leagues by the MLB fueled by the greed of the franchise owners. They intend to exterminate what made lower league baseball so unique and viable across hundreds of cities and convert it to a complete soulless farmers system). - There are only four professional mens soccer leagues, with a little over 100 professional clubs across the US and Canada. Fourth tier amateur and pre-professional clubs are trash most of the time. They either can't be bothered to advertise/market and engage the community, lack financial investment, only exist for the sole purpose of developing youth (they could not give less of a damn about having fans), participate in floundering regional and national leagues (such as the Gulf Coast Premier League), or any other problem. Basically, what I'm saying is that Americans like high level competition and excitement, and for many cities/regions that doesn't exist at any level, even at the highest level (My city's MLS team, the Dynamo, were trash for 10 years. We have no other professional club, and all of the fourth tier clubs suffer from one or more of the four issues I outlined earlier). Edit: Forgot to add this, but more than anything MLS is competing against the big four sports leagues. Yes the Premier League and Liga MX have a large hold on the American soccer market, but they always have and always will. MLS franchises can boast about how they're some of the most valued clubs in global soccer, but they are stiff dwarfed by even the NHL -- the smallest of the big four American sports leagues. To be fair, MLS is set to pass the NHL in terms of fans sooner or later, but they'll never hold a candle to the stranglehold that the NBA has on American sports, let alone the titan that is the NFL.
They have an 80 year Headstart what do you expect, the majority of MLS clubs were made in the 70s 80s 90s and even early 2000s soccer (football) has not evolved in the USA yet so give us some time until you judge us.
video a dir poco STUPENDO, peccato sia stato fatto solo Milan e Inter, Genoa e Doria e non anche Roma e Lazio. complimenti anche per aver censurato le parti dove accendono le torce
la clip della curva fiesole era già così, come ho detto nella descrizione non sono clip mie ma prese da altri su YT, quindi non voglio avere il merito. Per il resto, non ho messo la Lazio (ma avrei dovuto a sto punto) perché volevo mostrare meno squadre blasonate e renderlo un po' diverso dal solito.
@@alexanderstasolla ah okok, complimenti comunque...il secondo video dei baresi è incredibile. Aspetterò altri video del genere, negli altri U.S.A vs Europa solo germania, balcani e francia. Ma si scordano che la parola ultras è nata in Italia! 🇮🇹
@@federicosirizzotti3032 guarda è proprio per quello che ho voluto fare sto video (e forse ne farò altri dedicati ai nostri ultras). È tutto nato da noi, gli altri sono solo pure imitazioni (nulla da togliere comunque, balcani e tedeschi li adoro).
Noi sugli spalti in Italia nn facciamo solo il "semplice" tifo..portiamo avanti rivalità storiche tra le varie città..abbiamo una passione ed un attaccamento alla maglia..ai nostri colori ed alle nostre città che non si possono minimamente paragonare al tifo made in USA!!🖤💙BÈRGHÈM🖤💙
All these comments saying mls is getting better by the years yes they might be but they arent every gonna compare to ultra groups like the curva sud or the super 3 and even english football hooligans like milwall bushwakers and west ham icf firm and southend cs crew scunthorpe m180 nutheads they will never compare
Ma in realtà no, ci sono vari video in cui confrontano le atmosfere americane di basket con quelle europee (specie i balcani), e non c'è confronto. Quelle americane sono anche peggio del calcio, forse dove si vede qualcosa è il basket nei vari college/high-school
The problem aren’t the drummers (we use them a lot here in Europe), the real problem is a lack of sense of being part of the club, the community and dedication. You need to create rivalries (just look at how much is better the LA derby after the foundation of LAFC). You guys are getting better tho, I was surprised by the LAFC fans
Finally a great video about italian ultras and finally a video that doesn't only show big teams! Places like Bari and Palermo desserve better!
That was also my goal while creating this video. There are just a lot of other videos regarding german and balkans ultras (which they are great), but we are at the same level imo. Maybe I should create a soecific video of them…
I guess
@@alexanderstasolla some of the teams have to share a stadium with a women's own team
Thanks for not being bias against the Americans like every other video.
You guys are getting better, that's also another reason why I decided to do this video. The famous ones are old
@@alexanderstasolla ill be honest the americans were quite good
I believe I am doing very unbiased videos about MLS fanbases. Yet, all you had to say is that Inter Miami is ONLY Messi hype... Doesn't sound like an unbiased opinion to me.
@@Addict10nFootball It's not ONLY Messi hype, but a lot of it is. Before Messi signed for the club they couldn't even come close to selling out their tiny stadium and no one talked about them. Then they win the ridiculous Leagues Cup with Messi and everyone calls them the most important team in MLS history. Also 99% of the comments on their highlights are just praising Messi. So it isn't very difficult to see that nearly all of the club's fanbase are Messi fans. I mean the club's entire Marketing campaign, and MLS's aswell, is just, "We have Messi, so you should watch us." Also the bending of the rules by MLS just so Inter Miami can win a trophy really makes the club and league feel like a Messi league.
@@AmbushRL. I know what you mean... Doing the Inter Miami video, I found it hardest to even find a Facebook group with actual, local fans.. Usually I try to connect with some people beforehand but with Inter I could literally just find groups from around the world - of course that ain't healthy!
As I said in the video, the character test is gonna come once Messi retires, moves on, whatever..
But I think the problem isn't the club, it's the MLS itself, trying to milk it as much as possible.
Why are there so many rainbow flags at the Portland Timbers, what do they have to do with football? That's already a plus point for Europe, in Europe they are hoisted the flags of the clubs and not of gays.
Yeah, i agree with you, those political flags are shame for sport. In europe i have only seen them on bayern munich stadium..
@@thenightspitter
But believe me, it gets worse. In Germany, the rainbow flag is on the German government buildings, and they say because of tolerance and diversity... what a pathetic people the Germans are.
@@thenightspitter
You are right,because the german are sick for this idiology....
The women's teams have that too
@@semperfi_1099it’s not that they want to, in the mls, stupid gay stuff is aloowed and like they are like allowed to bring it
I'm glad you gave the U.S. a fair shot. We are improving, but it is only the 4th most popular sport.
More popular than Hockey?
@@Schloch83 I would say so. Especially with the interest around the World Cup in 2022 and it coming to North America in 2026. Local clubs are growing too, my club has sold out every game in it's history.
@@Schloch83ya NHL is big largely thanks to Canada which has 7 teams in the league while Canada only has 3 teams in MLS all from Canada’s 3 largest markets: Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver. In the States, MLS is more popular, especially for those under 50
Very surprising, but nice too see
Do you like football (soccer) is approaching 3rd place, going over baseball, now in the US?
Il Tifo Statunitense è spesso deriso da quello Europeo per ovvi motivi, ma se anche loro stanno iniziando a capire la mentalità che c'è dietro il Tifare nel Calcio, si può iniziare a rispettare il loro movimento pur mantenendo questa sorta di "rivalità" tra Vecchio e Nuovo Continente
Concordo in pieno, anche perché onestamente sono rimasto piacevolmente colpito specialmente dai Los Angeles FC. Si vede che stanno migliorando e pian piano capiscono cosa vuol dire tifare.
Ciò che manca(va) a loro è una storia di rivalità (che accendono la passione e il tifo) tra le varie città
@@alexanderstasolla Infatti la tifoseria del Los Angeles FC sembra abbia molta influenza sudamericana.. per caso sai come si dividono le tifoserie nel Derby di LA? magari tra Cittadini Ispanofoni e Anglofoni (?)
Allora da quello che ho letto in maniera veloce su reddit, la situazione è questa.
I LAFC hanno superato di popolarità gli LA Galaxy in brevissimo tempo perché durante la fase di creazione della società, hanno fatto partecipare gli abitanti delle parti sud ed est di Los Angeles, questo ha portato le persone a sentirsi parte di qualcosa, appassionandosi decisamente di più. Oltre a questo, un utente ha detto che gli LA Galaxy preferivano i "bianchi" o chi aveva i soldi (specialmente nel settore giovanile), di conseguenza discriminando gli ispanofoni.
In breve, gli LA Galaxy hanno provato ad americanizzare il calcio sfruttando i tifosi come clienti, mentre i LAFC hanno costruito il club attorno ai fan/popolazione (specialmente ispanofona), anche per questo si vede chiaramente un'influenza sud-americana. Ovviamente questo ha poi portato ad un mix tra americani e ispanofoni all'interno della tifoseria degli LAFC.
@@alexanderstasolla Quindi, in linea di massima, LA Galaxy squadra "Borghese" e LAFC del "Popolo". Perfetto, grazie della spiegazione!
Ma anche no
Lets be fair, MLS is getting better year by year.
True
I'm from Hungary and I live in Columbus OH. I be real. Sometimes I go to the Columbus Crew game. The atmosphere is unreal, but I think can't compare it to European football. It has over 120+ years of history, and mls only has less than 30 lol. Surely it's getting there, but Americans still have to learn from Europeans.lol
True people that hate on MLS suck
They def got a better atmosphere than the english leagues. People that keep hating on the MLS developing a fan culture are just enemies of the movement. Let's just hope that the Americans don't just take strong inspiration from the Ultras movement when it comes to the way they support but also learn our mentality, especially when it comes to our opinions on commercialisation of our sport!
No its not
To be honest the best fans in the MLS are the lafc fans because they have a decent ultra
exactly
No
What is their main group called? Do they have a website?
They are called district 9 but their ultras are never beating Italy
@NeymarcJunior of course not but you have to respect the development
1:39 my favorite mls stadium personally
I actually thought the American fans were not too bad, defo not the greatest but there are some great atmospheres
Bel video... complimenti!!! Calcolando che il "soccer" ( come lo chiamano loro) non è il loro sport nazionale ho visto gli stadi belli pieni... direi che cominciano a capire i valori del tifare...
Sicuramente i mondiali che faranno lì stanno aiutando molto nella crescita del calcio da loro
Americans pre game stuff is really good it’s just the cringeworthy chants they need to sort out but they are improving year by year and it’s good to see. We know they will never have the hooligan culture of England, Italy etc but their in ground stuff is looking good
Grande, bel video, FORZA VIOLA💜
Gli Atlanta Uniteds se la cavano a fare gli Ultrà, ma non può essere comparato pure con degli Ultrà della squadra del settore pulcini
A lezione di tifo
Thanks! I love Italian football!
A more fair comparison would be Serie A with D1 NCAA (American) football and basketball. That is where our passion, community, and history is strongest. Soccer is our 4th or 5th most popular team sport, and MLS is only our 6th or 7th most popular league.
Change may come though…😁
Eh.. Why are there Rainbow Flags in all the American Stadiums 🤔🤣
You also see that in Europe. Think of that what you want but it does show that there seems to be a fanscene with a clear self identity, which should always be something positive.
@@didid2905 Bayern Munchen, St Pauli.. Who else??.. Now it's different when the clubs do it for political reasons.. But Ultra Groups 🤭🤣
@AhStop Explain to me how supporting lgbt goes against the ultra mentality. I'd argue it doesn't because ultra is not directly linked to any political beliefs and it's mentality can be applied to all political directions.
@@didid2905 Really?.. You need me to explain that?.. If you need an explanation you haven't a clue when it comes to Ultra Groups. You do understand lgbt groups aren't widely accepted.
People put up with it. Football clubs only bother with it because of the bad publicity if they didn't. Honestly, lgbt is just another political angle. They are basically 2.8% of the population which is nothing. It's just bizarre why they even need a flag. Pointless.
@@didid2905 ultras are strong those people are weak, I mean if you get into a fight with the other teams hooligans or ultras you're cooked😂 Do you even know that some ultra groups train their fighting?
When most of the teams have to share a stadium with a women's owned team
Tbh mls atmosphere around the same level as the epl
no way much better, like 10X. have you ever seen good pyro and flares like that in the epl, even liverpools ynwa doesnt reach this
Not putting Juve in is worse than all USAs stadiums
Molto vero
Forza Bari we are the world's best 🐔❤️
Non possiamo considerare un paese dove il proprietario domani si può alzare e può cambiare nome colori e città ad una squadra , le leghe americane e la vera passione sportiva sono lontani anni luce
Oltretutto non hanno neanche un sistema di retrocessione o altro, questo rende i campionati veramente noiosi. Anche se stanno pensando di inserirlo. In ogni caso il calcio negli stati uniti è nato strutturato come sono strutturati gli altri loro sport nazionali, ma il trend è chiaro che si sta spostando in un sistema più simile a quello europeo/mondiale
Lazio Ultras ☠️
bel video ma secondo me potevi mettere anche delle coreografie e dei video di ultras per le strade in trasferta o fuori dallo stadio
Ci avevo pensato, ma sarebbe durato troppo il video. Sto pensando di fare un video dedicato però, in cui mettere coreografie, video delle trasferte e altre clip
Dei fiorentini ha messo una trasferta , bellissimi pure fuori casa⚜️
Devo essere sincero, sono rimasto sorpreso! Non credevo che negli Stati Uniti il calcio fosse così seguito, anche se non è il loro sport nazionale. E tanto meno che ci fossero delle vere e proprie tifoserie. Non a livello europeo, ma comunque mi sembrano delle buone tifoserie. Mi fa piacere che il calcio negli USA sia in crescita. Poi i mondiali daranno ulteriore spinta.
Se non erro è lo sport più in crescita da un paio di anni a sta parte negli US, poi ovviamente gli imminenti mondiali stanno aiutando. Comunque sono rimasto sorpreso dai LAFC
Anche io sono rimasto sorpreso, per quello che mi riguarda, a livello di tifo, sono già superiori alla NFL
@@alexanderstasolla I had made a long, five paragraph comment about the state of our soccer landscape but my wifi cut out just as I hit send. Can't be bothered to re-type so i'll summarize a few of the points and expand on others.
-There is a soccer culture, but it's stunted. Soccer is by far the most popular sport for kids to be enrolled in at young ages, but after a certain age it falls off dramatically due to immense cost. Most youth change to other sports like basketball and baseball after that certain age. There is also a lot of ignorance about soccer's existence outside of the World Cup. You'd be hard pressed to find a young American that isn't at least aware of one or two Premier League clubs, but they're not making their own decisions early on. It's the parents that are the problem (not as big of a problem as inadequate coaching, cost, youth development structure, etc.). There is a multitude of older folk that have no idea that soccer leagues exists, their knowledge of soccer does not extend past knowing the World Cup is merely a tournament that they don't care too much about, and therefore in their ignorance they make the decision to steer their children into other sports. The most infamous example that I can think of is when a reporter asked a German player signed to an MLS club if he thought that he could lead the MLS club to a World Cup title. Absolute idiocracy.
- Anti-soccer sentiment in sports/news media
- MLS having been relegated to a footnote on sports broadcasts and television for most of its 30 year history. Apple deal changed that, now they can show their content how they want with no constraints
- Clubs market solely to cities and not regions, unlike other American sports leagues
- American soccer landscape has been plagued by lack of stability for most of its history (financial collapse of original American Soccer League and the NASL, plethora of regional leagues and lower tier national leagues that would sprout up after the collapse of the aforementioned ASL and NASL).
- MLS lacks a monopoly on the sport, lower leagues continue to survive and thive (Apart from amateur leagues and sunday leagues, to my knowledge there is only one half-decent league that exists outside the control of the big four NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL leagues. Notably, a point of recent controversy has been the restructuring of the lower professional baseball leagues by the MLB fueled by the greed of the franchise owners. They intend to exterminate what made lower league baseball so unique and viable across hundreds of cities and convert it to a complete soulless farmers system).
- There are only four professional mens soccer leagues, with a little over 100 professional clubs across the US and Canada. Fourth tier amateur and pre-professional clubs are trash most of the time. They either can't be bothered to advertise/market and engage the community, lack financial investment, only exist for the sole purpose of developing youth (they could not give less of a damn about having fans), participate in floundering regional and national leagues (such as the Gulf Coast Premier League), or any other problem. Basically, what I'm saying is that Americans like high level competition and excitement, and for many cities/regions that doesn't exist at any level, even at the highest level (My city's MLS team, the Dynamo, were trash for 10 years. We have no other professional club, and all of the fourth tier clubs suffer from one or more of the four issues I outlined earlier).
Edit: Forgot to add this, but more than anything MLS is competing against the big four sports leagues. Yes the Premier League and Liga MX have a large hold on the American soccer market, but they always have and always will. MLS franchises can boast about how they're some of the most valued clubs in global soccer, but they are stiff dwarfed by even the NHL -- the smallest of the big four American sports leagues. To be fair, MLS is set to pass the NHL in terms of fans sooner or later, but they'll never hold a candle to the stranglehold that the NBA has on American sports, let alone the titan that is the NFL.
Like to see the flares from LAFC
Uh oh I think the us are getting better then us english...
Wait until you see what happens with Inter Malian
L'Hellas potresti metterlo in un prossimo video
Bari🤍❤
They have an 80 year Headstart what do you expect, the majority of MLS clubs were made in the 70s 80s 90s and even early 2000s soccer (football) has not evolved in the USA yet so give us some time until you judge us.
Gli italiani sono i migliori al mondo
video a dir poco STUPENDO, peccato sia stato fatto solo Milan e Inter, Genoa e Doria e non anche Roma e Lazio.
complimenti anche per aver censurato le parti dove accendono le torce
la clip della curva fiesole era già così, come ho detto nella descrizione non sono clip mie ma prese da altri su YT, quindi non voglio avere il merito.
Per il resto, non ho messo la Lazio (ma avrei dovuto a sto punto) perché volevo mostrare meno squadre blasonate e renderlo un po' diverso dal solito.
@@alexanderstasolla ah okok, complimenti comunque...il secondo video dei baresi è incredibile. Aspetterò altri video del genere, negli altri U.S.A vs Europa solo germania, balcani e francia. Ma si scordano che la parola ultras è nata in Italia! 🇮🇹
@@federicosirizzotti3032 guarda è proprio per quello che ho voluto fare sto video (e forse ne farò altri dedicati ai nostri ultras). È tutto nato da noi, gli altri sono solo pure imitazioni (nulla da togliere comunque, balcani e tedeschi li adoro).
Italian fans are so undareted
0:57 tf
Ah americà!!!....EAsports ultras....la storia mica la si fa in 20 anni....lunga vita a i veri ultras!!!!
Noi sugli spalti in Italia nn facciamo solo il "semplice" tifo..portiamo avanti rivalità storiche tra le varie città..abbiamo una passione ed un attaccamento alla maglia..ai nostri colori ed alle nostre città che non si possono minimamente paragonare al tifo made in USA!!🖤💙BÈRGHÈM🖤💙
south american fans ☠️
MLS would look better if they allowed pyro
Italian fans are The best
Soprattutto Forza Milan perché sono ita
why tf does american fans have lgtbq in there flags 😭
All these comments saying mls is getting better by the years yes they might be but they arent every gonna compare to ultra groups like the curva sud or the super 3 and even english football hooligans like milwall bushwakers and west ham icf firm and southend cs crew scunthorpe m180 nutheads they will never compare
maybe so but MLS has its own unique culture and we can respect them for that
Forgot about SS Lazio fans, the best in Italy
The juventus
LOTTARE PER LA BANDIERA È SEMPRE STATO UN ORGOGLIO MA NO PER IL DENARE BAST..DO AMERICANOO
Why do you not show proper italian tifos and pyro shows and show some of the worst parts of the game😂
Wow
Video di tifosi italiani senza tifosi dell’ Hellas è dell’Atalanta ha poco senso
not the gay flags bro like come on dont bring those to the football matches, can u do one with the netherlands? (fc utrecht, ajax, feyenoord, psv)
Ultras🇮🇹 vs normal fans 😂🤣🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
Italians!!!
orlando 😂
Sarebbe più bello se in MLS inseriranno le retrocessioni in campionati minori, come avviene nei campionati europei
there wouldnt be anyone who would follow the team if they were relegated
Gli americani stanno copiando i supporters europei??!! Che strano!! Deve essere una nuova moda imitare i supporters europei.
Dev'essere una moda copiare gli europei in generale
I don’t understand, in what way are they copying
Forza italia
Italians
USA USA USA
L’Andrea costa subito dopo il gol del Bologna era un capolavoro fai vedere anche quella la prossima volta
e comunque e il contrario
per basket...
Ma in realtà no, ci sono vari video in cui confrontano le atmosfere americane di basket con quelle europee (specie i balcani), e non c'è confronto. Quelle americane sono anche peggio del calcio, forse dove si vede qualcosa è il basket nei vari college/high-school
ok
Lol.. Using lgtv flags in „ultras” section 😂🤡
in america nonostante che il calcio sia migliorato non c'è passione parole di un italiano
Fans Poland🇵🇱 the best
Volleyball
Ice hockey (world cup 2024, ostrava)
Football 🎉🎉🎉
Poland fans in hockey? The czech are the best fans... 😂😂
E la Juventus?
Sarebbe durato troppo il video, non ho aggiunto altre squadre che avrebbero meritato di stare nella compilation
@@alexanderstasolla penso che la curva sud prime merita più della maggior parte delle squadre in questo video
@@alexanderstasollasei della Roma
@@danielebondanini1111 milanista
@@alexanderstasolla infatti avrei aggiunto o.. milanista
I live in the US, and some US fans are pretty boring with their drummers.
The problem aren’t the drummers (we use them a lot here in Europe), the real problem is a lack of sense of being part of the club, the community and dedication. You need to create rivalries (just look at how much is better the LA derby after the foundation of LAFC). You guys are getting better tho, I was surprised by the LAFC fans
NON C'E' PARAGONE. Noi tifiamo col cuore e con tutto noi stessi, gli americano sembrano dei poser, vaiaaa
Im Ultra leader Bari.
Wow