You guys are the reason why football is called soccer in US ,it will never grow. First of all ,if MLS had a break during international games we wouldn't have this conversation, Messi played 19 games and that only makes him the candidate, he had better stats than your Cucho. Secondly, take out messi G/A contribution and see if Miami with thier 8 games win would've won the shield. You guys are bad when it comes to reading the game😂😂😂😂
It’s messi and it’s not even a debate. You’re stupid if you think messi isn’t the answer. If messi played those games and did nothing by your logic messi is overwhelming favourite. Which is stupid you moron.
To say messi isnt the mvp of mls with 36 goal contributions with 19 games played is crazy.. give the top scorer the golden boot.. but messi is undoubtedly the mvp of the year
@@andrewbunch6599 the way they are arguing and deliberating about it is annoying me, they should give to whom they like, it's not like Messi needs it anyway, Messi just won the MARCA goat award, they can keep this one for another day, inter Miami will win the league anyway
Messi shd win the mvp beyond the obvious key stats reasons. He's like fine wine at age 37 which really surprised me. He raised the profile of both miami and mls.
Here is my argument , if MLS stop during players National Games , we would not having this argument today, Messi had multiple appearances in the National Team which took away multiple games , goals and assists from him, so it is not fair he gets panelized for that , where others who you think they deserve it more that they should get it , this is ridiculous
Right! To be honest, many of the MLS players are not even good into be called up to their national team. There’s a reason why they play for MLS so having them compare Messi to these mediocre players are laughable.
To be fair the Supporter's Shield champions would be the league champions in the rest of the world, equivalent to winning Premier League or La Liga while MLS Cup is a glorified Copa del Rey/FA Cup where the a team who finished 9th is able to win it without being the best throughout the year.
The competition format caused the problem. The Supporters shield winner should actually be more deserving because they are obviously a better team all season than a 8th position team that might end up winning the MLS cup. If anything else, it should be the leader of the Eastern conference v the leader of Western conference. But US systems are always trying to be different.
100%. It's just a strange system, and it only undermines the league table itself, which is by far the most difficult to win. MLS just decided to be different from the rest of the world I guess, for no reason.
This is how american sports work: NFL MLB NBA NHL all have the same format. Its all about the play offs even though there is a division/conference/Entire league champions.
So the only way to win the MLS MVP, is to be too bad to play for your national team, so that you don't miss out on MLS matches? Seriously? As long as the MLS doesn't take breaks when national teams are playing, MLS players shouldn't be judged for playing fewer games than others, just for being good enough to participate in international football. Messi's MLS statistics of 36 goal contributions in 19 matches, which is half a MLS season, should solidify him as the MVP, because no one else is even near such numbers.
He gotta be the MVP and actually they gotta thank him too, coz lets be honest, before Messi comes to MLS, not so many people was in their stadium watching their match except maybe an important Final matches but now, seriously people are showing up to support their team. People started getting interested in Football. He changed a lot of things in MLS. He has got to get that MVP and also a Big Thanks 😂 😂
Infantino did not say that Inter Miami was the champion team, he said that IM is the best team of the season in America. This is actually true as they got the most points.
This 8 out of 9 game thing is selective memory. 3 of Miami's 4 losses came when he wasn't playing. They lost exactly 1 game this season in which he participated. In addition, they lost the Leagues Cup with him not playing.
Miami did not qualified in the Mind of Infantino. They qualified by winning the supporters shield, they qualified because they broke the all time league table record, they qualified because they move from the button of the league 19 points last season to 74 points, they qualified because the have the highest market value record, they qualified because they have the Goat who even less games played still top the most man of the Match, just 3 goals behind the winner of the golden boot with less games, in the top 10 assists of the season. They qualified because they are more competitive than any team in the MLS. They qualified be whether you like it or yes they are winning MLs this year. Plus your flimsy point you mention. In all don’t be a hater sir because they’re more than qualify
Miami qualified because the tournament was allowed to choose a team for being the host nation. They chose Miami. They made the mistake of giving a reason when the didn't have to, thereby causing controversy.
Consider the impact Messi has had this year , and not just in the MLS , and I defy you to find anyone , in any sport , to equal it, except, possibly Caitlin Clark . Generational talent has to be celebrated especially when you recognize its rarity!
And Alexis once again completely avoids to make any comments about Messi scoring 3 goals in 33 minutes at 37 years of age. Apparently, that doesn’t deserve any notice. Anti-Messi resentment at its best.
@@brando7266 Keep the same calender for the seasons. Mid-August. Don’t play in the extreme winters.. reduce the useless side cup matches. This will allow a standard transfer window, and international breaks
@@dan_savage but those cups r something ( us open cup, leagues cup ,etc) it gives teams a chance to get a trophy, even if they have had a bad regular season, see sporting kc, they almost won the US open cup, this yr,
If I were told that a player came to the MLS and radically changed a team, taking it from last place to becoming the best team in the tournament and being the top scorer and assist maker, and that he has somehow changed football in his environment in a country where football is relegated to last place among sports, then it seems that being called Messi is counterproductive.
MLS is still asking whether Lionel Messi deserves to be MVP? only a league that doesn't understand football would ask such a question to a figure like Lionel Messi. Even if Lionel Messi was still playing in the Europa League, there would definitely be no debate about his 9th ballon dor.
Gianni is right.other league winners are determined by points,finishing with most points on the league.The league is won by points.This idea of mls playoffs is just a scam
To do what he did against New England sums up why he is the undisputed MVP; coming off the bench and sealing the win and. league. record with his second hat trick in a week. Come on! Who does that? Some may roll their eyes at their ersatz "qualification" for the CWC next year but Messi is, by virtue of his already legendary status, a rule breaker.
If I had to guess, I'd say his bosses or someone from MLS gave him a call to tell him to tone it down on the praising, because Messi (and Suárez playing with crutches) is making MLS and all its players look like amateurs. That might be good for the people who likes Messi or Suárez, but not for your league, because it shows how far away you are from top competitors, even when they're pushing 40 years of age. If almost all teams are having trouble controlling Messi and Suárez now, imagine playing against players like that in their prime!!!
It's not given to inter miami the shield winners are the one qualifies for major fifa tournament.. in ISL shield winners are qualified for AFC champions league
@@Nitegame Cucho's best season is Messi 's worst season 😆 🤣 even Cucho knows Messi have a better season than him,even though Messi missed a lot of games due to injury. Before the Copa America tournament, Messi was already 25 G/A, imagine he played the full season now 😆 🤣 😂 he will break all records in the MLS history.
@@Nitegame Some people are really not happy Messi is playing MLS. Man , Messi is better than most top players playing in European top 5 leagues . Cucho has a better season than Messi ,man smoking something tyie b4 this video 😆 🤣 😂 I remembered Cucho was at Watford, he helped them relegated . He really improved since joining Colombus Crew, if Messi don't play the MLS give him the Mvp, but if Messi is playing why not the MVP?
Even Fifa following Messi in America 😆 🤣 Cr7 supporters, please don't come and start crying on my comment oh 😆 🤣 . The club world cup coming to America 🇺🇸, don't come here and comment that Messi is Fifa boy oh 😆 😂 . Take it or continue to cry more,Messi is the Goat 🐐, end of story.
Mosse, please a enlighten us on How this could have been managed IF the intention was to get Miami in the tournament? You already said due to marketing they wanted to have Messi in it so How would you have managed and also making sure Messi be apart of it? Had they announced the winner of the supporter shield would be awarded but what in case Miami failed to win it? If their intention was to titi get Messi then they had no other choice. No matter how you slice it, it wasn’t going to be a good look. It is what it is
This guy is reaching ridiculous levels of denial. So to be the MVP you have to be lucky enough to not be injured and bad enough to not get called to your national team? Great logic there, Einstein. Nevermind the insinuation that Miami was handed the entrance to the Clubs WC, as if they didn't deserve it. Even when he tries to come off as neutral and acknowledge the achievements, there's always a "but" to put things into question and marr said achievements.
Honestly , you guys level of knowledge about so call soccer is not too high, Messi is the best no more argument please !!!!!. Look at Messi seen he was at 18 until now anybody play better him??
Idc what anyone says Messi has brought light to mls..even the cr fanbase are tuning in..although we know they watch to come criticise but the fact that they do…that is influence
This is one of those moment where it's best to keep quite. Let the commissioner do what needs to do to bring in more of an audience to the sport, especially in the U.S. This is grate for the MLS, now other great players around the world will take this league a little more serious. "Inviting" Miami to participate is good for EVERYONE. These may be the last years one gets to see one of the best players ever, to set foot on the pitch take it as a privilege.
Lets say you star a new team in a new city in USA. Bangor, for example. The Bangor monsters or something like that. Your sponsons said "pick any player of the MLS" and we'll bring that guy. The only answers is Messi. There is your answer to who is more valuable. Benteke , laucha acosta, etc are great. But Messi impact is in another category
In any other league in Europe, the supporters shield would be the main trophy. It is a reward for being the best and most consistent by having most points in the league. It is equivalent to winning the premier league, la liga or Bundesliga. On the other hand, Mls Cup is like the FA cup or Copa del Rey where anyone can win it.
Let's make it simple: MVP means Most Valuable Player. Check the value of MLS, Inter Miami, your own RUclips channel from the day he joined MLS and tell me you don't see a difference. Get real.
But i thought all current participants in the club world cup are league winners in their respective countries. So what other criteria did yall want FIFA to invent??!!
Messi OBVIOUSLY should've had his bodyguard to play in his place for 10 more games simply standing in the middle of the field doing nothing, and making 0 goal contributions, because only then would Messi be worthy of being MVP according to many pundits apparently 😂😂😂
what would you do differently if you are fifa? You have a chance to make sure ticket sales blow up and advertise for the controversial new event, and yet you don't make it happen? It's just business man. Plain and simple. It's the pareto efficient decision. MLS itself it just warrant this non-serious maneuver. Like which league has two trophies?
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Bro said If supporter shield is better than MLS cup then why are people preparing for MLS cup but they also hand over the MLS mvp before MLS cup comes around. Make it make sense
It’s not unprecedented for the host nation to have a team play in the Club World Cup (CWC). Since the CWC will be in the USA in 2025, it only makes sense that the best team in the USA qualified under the host nation selection. It happens that Messi is on the team, so of course people will come in with their opinions. The memes are everywhere. 😅
Lala is naturally not a fan of Messi. He will pick on the slightest of negative and inflate it supporting casting a shadow of - he aint that valuable this season
The shield should matter anyway, i don't know why MLS would go for play offs? For what? The winner of the MLS cup should be the one finished with most points just like other europeans tournments.
I think league champions should be decided by who has the most pooints teams face each other twice. And the cup should be a separate thing, like in most of the rest of the world. I do understand that not every team faces each other in MLS, but they don't in the cup either. And the PROBLEM with the cup is that a weaker team can much more easily win it by getting lucky. Especially when its single ellimination format.
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Barca boys crushing the MLS at their age is an indictment of MLS…..internationally it’s a joke because US Soccer is a joke. With our resources we ought to be far more competitive internationally. Nothing will change until the current US Soccer organization is destroyed and rebuilt with player development as the primary focus.
i very much doubt messi cares about that or that delulu world cup ... they obv milking messi ... i will not be suprised if all of a sudden the fifa ceo will tell us that the last team is al nassr to feed the ronaldo vs messi narrative... and for mvp? depends how you judge it.. numbers? messi have it... goals with out penalties? messi have it... impact on games? messi have it.. most games played? messi does not have it... i think its fine if wins the mvp but i really hope he will flip a bird on fifa and wont play in the world cup.. dude desreves rest
good analysis. messi missed most the league matches and miami won comfortably without him. hence he should not be getting the mvp. instead suarez is the more deserving one.
These so called "pundits" just have their own favourites and just create arguments against Messi.. they keep saying Miami was good even without Messi.. thats the dumbest thing u can say.. Miami won 6 of thos 8 games without Messi against NON PLAYOFF teams.. and MLS gives playoff spots to almost everyone.. they won 6 games against the poorest of the poor teams.. but anyone better, they cant win without Messi. Without Messi this team will still struggle to even get into the playoffs.. ridiculous arguments.. either they're biased or just plain dumb
The winner of the Leagues in every other country is the team with the most points at the end of the regular season. All over Europe, it is that way, all over South America and even different parts of North America, they do it like that. THE USA IS NOT LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD AND THEY EVEN CALL FOOTBALL SOCCER WHICH IS VERY MORONIC. WHAT THEY CALL FOOTBALL IS NOT PLAYED USING THE FEET, THE MOST IMPORTANT PLAYER IS THE QB THAT PLAYS WITH HIS ARMS. IF YOU WANT TO CALL THAT AMERICAN FOOTBALL IT IS OKAY WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THAT BUT DO NOT CALL THE REAL FOOTBALL, WHICH HAS A MUCH LONGER HISTORY "SOCCER". THE MLS CREATED THE PLAYOFFS TO CREATE MORE REVENUE. THEY FELT THE NEED TO BE UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT, IT TRULY DID NOT DO ANY FAVORS TO THE LEAGUE. MOST FOOTBALL FANS DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE MLS SYSTEM AND THEY FEEL DISGUST WHEN THEY CALL THE SPORT THEY LOVE SOCCER. IT WILL BE NICE IF THE USA GETS WITH THE PROGRAM. IT IS A GLOBAL SPORT AND IT WAS NOT CREATED IN THE USA AND THE BEST PLAYERS DO NOT PLAY IN THE USA.
To be honest, the shield is the league really...the rest is a knockut competition...yankees called it playoff...lol...the fact that the league is harder and folks find it as a secondary to the playoff is mind boggling to me
There should be 2 games home and away between Inter Miami and Los Angeles FC to decide who is going to be the MLS champion. That's it! Don't need the League cup! or...maybe...use it as something similar to FA cup
Yanks…. Can help themselves. Mixing football with some other crappy sports . The MLS is in the football world map thanks to Messi… and Messi only . IF IS NO Messi … no one will watch it. For sure I would not. On top the guy is a GOD . score, assist , energize you frigging, name it. As Guardiola said once, the best player is Messi , in any position… well maybe goalkeeper ain’t . So you can choose Paco redballs chico, or Jesus moist Hernadez, just to graced yourself to some particular group, that doesn't change the fact that Messi is not only the MVP but also the indispensable player .
Shocking defending on some of those goals. MLS defending is shocking. Giving Inter Miami the spot is a joke. But FIFA is a joke. The suckups are a joke. They were gifted a spot. Period. But the club world cup is a joke tourney too. Nobody really cares.
Who do you think should be the 2024 MLS MVP?
You guys are the reason why football is called soccer in US ,it will never grow.
First of all ,if MLS had a break during international games we wouldn't have this conversation, Messi played 19 games and that only makes him the candidate, he had better stats than your Cucho.
Secondly, take out messi G/A contribution and see if Miami with thier 8 games win would've won the shield. You guys are bad when it comes to reading the game😂😂😂😂
MESSI
Messi of course what tf type of question is this.. golden boot doesnt equal mvp... messi been the best player in mls when he plays undoubtedly
Ronaldo fcuker. 😅
You guys are sooo dumb
It’s messi and it’s not even a debate. You’re stupid if you think messi isn’t the answer. If messi played those games and did nothing by your logic messi is overwhelming favourite. Which is stupid you moron.
To say messi isnt the mvp of mls with 36 goal contributions with 19 games played is crazy.. give the top scorer the golden boot.. but messi is undoubtedly the mvp of the year
They should give who they like, Messi has too many awards to lose sweat over this, they can give Suarez
@tojusote4896 no awards should go to who deserves them and messi is the mvp of mls
@@andrewbunch6599 the way they are arguing and deliberating about it is annoying me, they should give to whom they like, it's not like Messi needs it anyway, Messi just won the MARCA goat award, they can keep this one for another day, inter Miami will win the league anyway
Messi shd win the mvp beyond the obvious key stats reasons. He's like fine wine at age 37 which really surprised me. He raised the profile of both miami and mls.
These people are crazy! 😂😂 thanks for saying exactly what I was thinking!!
Here is my argument , if MLS stop during players National Games , we would not having this argument today, Messi had multiple appearances in the National Team which took away multiple games , goals and assists from him, so it is not fair he gets panelized for that , where others who you think they deserve it more that they should get it , this is ridiculous
Right! To be honest, many of the MLS players are not even good into be called up to their national team. There’s a reason why they play for MLS so having them compare Messi to these mediocre players are laughable.
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To be fair the Supporter's Shield champions would be the league champions in the rest of the world, equivalent to winning Premier League or La Liga while MLS Cup is a glorified Copa del Rey/FA Cup where the a team who finished 9th is able to win it without being the best throughout the year.
It´s an American thing, and it is stupid.
The competition format caused the problem. The Supporters shield winner should actually be more deserving because they are obviously a better team all season than a 8th position team that might end up winning the MLS cup.
If anything else, it should be the leader of the Eastern conference v the leader of Western conference. But US systems are always trying to be different.
100%. It's just a strange system, and it only undermines the league table itself, which is by far the most difficult to win. MLS just decided to be different from the rest of the world I guess, for no reason.
This is how american sports work: NFL MLB NBA NHL all have the same format. Its all about the play offs even though there is a division/conference/Entire league champions.
@@o.vincent1 Everywhere else in the world Inter Miami would have won their league. In Spain, England , Germany ect.
If MVP still means "most valuable player", there's no argument possible against Messi for it
So the only way to win the MLS MVP, is to be too bad to play for your national team, so that you don't miss out on MLS matches? Seriously? As long as the MLS doesn't take breaks when national teams are playing, MLS players shouldn't be judged for playing fewer games than others, just for being good enough to participate in international football. Messi's MLS statistics of 36 goal contributions in 19 matches, which is half a MLS season, should solidify him as the MVP, because no one else is even near such numbers.
Totally agree. Lalas is a joke.
He gotta be the MVP and actually they gotta thank him too, coz lets be honest, before Messi comes to MLS, not so many people was in their stadium watching their match except maybe an important Final matches but now, seriously people are showing up to support their team. People started getting interested in Football. He changed a lot of things in MLS. He has got to get that MVP and also a Big Thanks 😂 😂
Infantino did not say that Inter Miami was the champion team, he said that IM is the best team of the season in America. This is actually true as they got the most points.
Definitely Messi
36G+A in 19 matches.. the second in line has 34G+A in 33 matches. No debate. 💯
This 8 out of 9 game thing is selective memory. 3 of Miami's 4 losses came when he wasn't playing. They lost exactly 1 game this season in which he participated. In addition, they lost the Leagues Cup with him not playing.
well said.. not sure why they are fudging the numbers.
If anything the success early on gave them confidence and momentum to hold onto
Miami did not qualified in the Mind of Infantino. They qualified by winning the supporters shield, they qualified because they broke the all time league table record, they qualified because they move from the button of the league 19 points last season to 74 points, they qualified because the have the highest market value record, they qualified because they have the Goat who even less games played still top the most man of the Match, just 3 goals behind the winner of the golden boot with less games, in the top 10 assists of the season. They qualified because they are more competitive than any team in the MLS. They qualified be whether you like it or yes they are winning MLs this year. Plus your flimsy point you mention. In all don’t be a hater sir because they’re more than qualify
Facts
Miami qualified because the tournament was allowed to choose a team for being the host nation. They chose Miami. They made the mistake of giving a reason when the didn't have to, thereby causing controversy.
The guy performed and put up numbers for both club and country of course he deserves it
MLS should adopt international standards and let the team with mist points win the league
Consider the impact Messi has had this year , and not just in the MLS , and I defy you to find anyone , in any sport , to equal it, except, possibly Caitlin Clark . Generational talent has to be celebrated especially when you recognize its rarity!
And Alexis once again completely avoids to make any comments about Messi scoring 3 goals in 33 minutes at 37 years of age. Apparently, that doesn’t deserve any notice.
Anti-Messi resentment at its best.
exactly
MLS schedule needs to match rest of the world
They need to rethink about that, cause is unfair. Otherwise, Messi wiould score 40 goals this year
@@yung-tochrico8189 forget the goals. Viewing and keeping track of the matches is difficult. International breaks don’t match.
They can't play during the winter, too many cold weather cities,
@@brando7266 Keep the same calender for the seasons. Mid-August. Don’t play in the extreme winters.. reduce the useless side cup matches. This will allow a standard transfer window, and international breaks
@@dan_savage but those cups r something ( us open cup, leagues cup ,etc) it gives teams a chance to get a trophy, even if they have had a bad regular season, see sporting kc, they almost won the US open cup, this yr,
If I were told that a player came to the MLS and radically changed a team, taking it from last place to becoming the best team in the tournament and being the top scorer and assist maker, and that he has somehow changed football in his environment in a country where football is relegated to last place among sports, then it seems that being called Messi is counterproductive.
Seriously.
Exactly - if that's not MVP criteria then what is, honestly lalas is ridiculous 🤷
Messi…no question.
Messi deserves something more value than MVP..LOL
He’s getting two contributions a game for the best team in the league. Mvp
Uhm 19 games!!! Numbers are crazy!!!! Jeez u guys gotta be kidding me!!!! Messi is definitely MVP!!
MLS is still asking whether Lionel Messi deserves to be MVP?
only a league that doesn't understand football would ask such a question to a figure like Lionel Messi.
Even if Lionel Messi was still playing in the Europa League, there would definitely be no debate about his 9th ballon dor.
Messi, obviously without no questions, they should create something more value than MVP for the infinity ♾️ of football or soccer Messi
The team which is consistent throughout the season and top the table should be termed as league champions and club worldcup is well deserved
Gianni is right.other league winners are determined by points,finishing with most points on the league.The league is won by points.This idea of mls playoffs is just a scam
To do what he did against New England sums up why he is the undisputed MVP; coming off the bench and sealing the win and. league. record with his second hat trick in a week. Come on! Who does that? Some may roll their eyes at their ersatz "qualification" for the CWC next year but Messi is, by virtue of his already legendary status, a rule breaker.
The way Lalas talks makes me think MLS doesn´t deserve Messi and he is ungrateful for all Messi has done for MLS.
If I had to guess, I'd say his bosses or someone from MLS gave him a call to tell him to tone it down on the praising, because Messi (and Suárez playing with crutches) is making MLS and all its players look like amateurs. That might be good for the people who likes Messi or Suárez, but not for your league, because it shows how far away you are from top competitors, even when they're pushing 40 years of age. If almost all teams are having trouble controlling Messi and Suárez now, imagine playing against players like that in their prime!!!
@@Lucas_Tulic Prime Messi was a force of Nature that would have destroyed the MLS like a tornado through a motor home lot.
@@arosalesmusic Good analogy! 😅
Cheers from Buenos Aires.
@@Lucas_Tulic Dale Lucas!
Exactly @@Lucas_Tulic
The Messi Liga Superior is my suggestion for MlS rebranding it loves so much. New logo should just be his face.
Messi is the best
Messi is so great player for me Dear Alexi and Dear David.😍🥰🤗
It's not given to inter miami the shield winners are the one qualifies for major fifa tournament.. in ISL shield winners are qualified for AFC champions league
Everywhere Messi plays, he is above everyone. Who is cuchio? 😂😂man, go and take a nap
Cucho didnt get called for cololobmi
@@Nitegame Cucho's best season is Messi 's worst season 😆 🤣 even Cucho knows Messi have a better season than him,even though Messi missed a lot of games due to injury. Before the Copa America tournament, Messi was already 25 G/A, imagine he played the full season now 😆 🤣 😂 he will break all records in the MLS history.
@@nigelotitus1809 facts😂
@@Nitegame Some people are really not happy Messi is playing MLS. Man , Messi is better than most top players playing in European top 5 leagues . Cucho has a better season than Messi ,man smoking something tyie b4 this video 😆 🤣 😂 I remembered Cucho was at Watford, he helped them relegated . He really improved since joining Colombus Crew, if Messi don't play the MLS give him the Mvp, but if Messi is playing why not the MVP?
Even Fifa following Messi in America 😆 🤣 Cr7 supporters, please don't come and start crying on my comment oh 😆 🤣 . The club world cup coming to America 🇺🇸, don't come here and comment that Messi is Fifa boy oh 😆 😂 . Take it or continue to cry more,Messi is the Goat 🐐, end of story.
Messi is by far the MVP of MLS. All of you should be humbled that messi came to america
Mosse, please a enlighten us on How this could have been managed IF the intention was to get Miami in the tournament? You already said due to marketing they wanted to have Messi in it so How would you have managed and also making sure Messi be apart of it?
Had they announced the winner of the supporter shield would be awarded but what in case Miami failed to win it? If their intention was to titi get Messi then they had no other choice.
No matter how you slice it, it wasn’t going to be a good look. It is what it is
Half? 15 minutes
Edit: Also if you think Messi isn't the most valuable person on your continent you're not a serious person.
Messi is the only one who should win MVP. His level is the highest Messi level !
Messi es el mejor de la MLS con diferencia
This guy is reaching ridiculous levels of denial. So to be the MVP you have to be lucky enough to not be injured and bad enough to not get called to your national team? Great logic there, Einstein.
Nevermind the insinuation that Miami was handed the entrance to the Clubs WC, as if they didn't deserve it. Even when he tries to come off as neutral and acknowledge the achievements, there's always a "but" to put things into question and marr said achievements.
Agreed.
Messi goat 🐐
Who is Cucho ? Seriosly Messi MVP.
100 💯 MvP
Thanks to Messi we now watching your MLS league; I never heard/interest on it before he join
Messi ❤❤❤❤
Cucho Hernández
Missed a pk vs Miami
And lost 2 finals
He ain’t better than Messi
At all lol
Anti Messi fans be like
Messi MVP all the way.
Thinking Messi doesn’t deserve the MVP is wild. I can’t imagine his stats had he played like 15 more games, he would have broken the MLS.
Even Messi himself doesn't think about what MVP is. 😅Messi plays for the team, not for himself. 😎
That Messi is the MVP is not a controversy, but a fact.
All things even ALexi takes Cucho over Messi? LOL aight.
Reason he isn’t a soccer manager/coach
Honestly , you guys level of knowledge about so call soccer is not too high, Messi is the best no more argument please !!!!!. Look at Messi seen he was at 18 until now anybody play better him??
And Lala uses Messi’s name in the title to get more views… yet goes on to criticize the messi hype
Yes... he barely mentions the subject of the video. Click bait.
Look at it my way...If Messi wasn't in the MLS, what's the MLS? Messi is the MLS MVP on the field and off the field!
Idc what anyone says Messi has brought light to mls..even the cr fanbase are tuning in..although we know they watch to come criticise but the fact that they do…that is influence
This is one of those moment where it's best to keep quite. Let the commissioner do what needs to do to bring in more of an audience to the sport, especially in the U.S. This is grate for the MLS, now other great players around the world will take this league a little more serious. "Inviting" Miami to participate is good for EVERYONE. These may be the last years one gets to see one of the best players ever, to set foot on the pitch take it as a privilege.
Lets say you star a new team in a new city in USA. Bangor, for example. The Bangor monsters or something like that. Your sponsons said "pick any player of the MLS" and we'll bring that guy. The only answers is Messi. There is your answer to who is more valuable.
Benteke , laucha acosta, etc are great. But Messi impact is in another category
~ Messi is Messi 😊
In any other league in Europe, the supporters shield would be the main trophy. It is a reward for being the best and most consistent by having most points in the league. It is equivalent to winning the premier league, la liga or Bundesliga.
On the other hand, Mls Cup is like the FA cup or Copa del Rey where anyone can win it.
Let's make it simple: MVP means Most Valuable Player.
Check the value of MLS, Inter Miami, your own RUclips channel from the day he joined MLS and tell me you don't see a difference.
Get real.
But i thought all current participants in the club world cup are league winners in their respective countries. So what other criteria did yall want FIFA to invent??!!
Messi OBVIOUSLY should've had his bodyguard to play in his place for 10 more games simply standing in the middle of the field doing nothing, and making 0 goal contributions, because only then would Messi be worthy of being MVP according to many pundits apparently 😂😂😂
6 goals + 3 assists in 2 games. Ridiculous. Hard to find in recent archives
Messi is the MVP of world football never mind the MLS.
what would you do differently if you are fifa? You have a chance to make sure ticket sales blow up and advertise for the controversial new event, and yet you don't make it happen? It's just business man. Plain and simple. It's the pareto efficient decision. MLS itself it just warrant this non-serious maneuver. Like which league has two trophies?
Messi is the most deserves for the MVP
The M in MVP stands for Messi.
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If supporter shield is better than MLS cup then why are people preparing for MLS cup but they also hand over the MLS mvp before MLS cup comes around. Make it make sense
It’s not unprecedented for the host nation to have a team play in the Club World Cup (CWC). Since the CWC will be in the USA in 2025, it only makes sense that the best team in the USA qualified under the host nation selection. It happens that Messi is on the team, so of course people will come in with their opinions. The memes are everywhere. 😅
Lala is naturally not a fan of Messi. He will pick on the slightest of negative and inflate it supporting casting a shadow of - he aint that valuable this season
Everyone is entitled to their opinions.
Suarez should be MLS MVP. He carried the team while Messi was away.
What are these guys even talking about !? 😂😂😂
Not even a full single half .. it is less than 40 minutes 😅😮😅😮
Isn’t Seattle Sounders in CWC too?
GOAT Influence!
The shield should matter anyway, i don't know why MLS would go for play offs? For what? The winner of the MLS cup should be the one finished with most points just like other europeans tournments.
I think league champions should be decided by who has the most pooints teams face each other twice. And the cup should be a separate thing, like in most of the rest of the world. I do understand that not every team faces each other in MLS, but they don't in the cup either.
And the PROBLEM with the cup is that a weaker team can much more easily win it by getting lucky. Especially when its single ellimination format.
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If the league does met end until the MLS why hand out MVP and highest goal scorer awards now..why not wait till end of MLS
Bro is just a Ronaldo fan
Is scoring a hat trick in 11mins a record in mls?
Barca boys crushing the MLS at their age is an indictment of MLS…..internationally it’s a joke because US Soccer is a joke. With our resources we ought to be far more competitive internationally. Nothing will change until the current US Soccer organization is destroyed and rebuilt with player development as the primary focus.
i very much doubt messi cares about that or that delulu world cup ... they obv milking messi ... i will not be suprised if all of a sudden the fifa ceo will tell us that the last team is al nassr to feed the ronaldo vs messi narrative... and for mvp? depends how you judge it.. numbers? messi have it... goals with out penalties? messi have it... impact on games? messi have it.. most games played? messi does not have it... i think its fine if wins the mvp but i really hope he will flip a bird on fifa and wont play in the world cup.. dude desreves rest
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good analysis. messi missed most the league matches and miami won comfortably without him. hence he should not be getting the mvp. instead suarez is the more deserving one.
MLS bro... it is only MLS
Messi effect 😆 🤣
These so called "pundits" just have their own favourites and just create arguments against Messi.. they keep saying Miami was good even without Messi.. thats the dumbest thing u can say.. Miami won 6 of thos 8 games without Messi against NON PLAYOFF teams.. and MLS gives playoff spots to almost everyone.. they won 6 games against the poorest of the poor teams.. but anyone better, they cant win without Messi.
Without Messi this team will still struggle to even get into the playoffs.. ridiculous arguments.. either they're biased or just plain dumb
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The winner of the Leagues in every other country is the team with the most points at the end of the regular season. All over Europe, it is that way, all over South America and even different parts of North America, they do it like that. THE USA IS NOT LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD AND THEY EVEN CALL FOOTBALL SOCCER WHICH IS VERY MORONIC. WHAT THEY CALL FOOTBALL IS NOT PLAYED USING THE FEET, THE MOST IMPORTANT PLAYER IS THE QB THAT PLAYS WITH HIS ARMS. IF YOU WANT TO CALL THAT AMERICAN FOOTBALL IT IS OKAY WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THAT BUT DO NOT CALL THE REAL FOOTBALL, WHICH HAS A MUCH LONGER HISTORY "SOCCER". THE MLS CREATED THE PLAYOFFS TO CREATE MORE REVENUE. THEY FELT THE NEED TO BE UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT, IT TRULY DID NOT DO ANY FAVORS TO THE LEAGUE. MOST FOOTBALL FANS DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE MLS SYSTEM AND THEY FEEL DISGUST WHEN THEY CALL THE SPORT THEY LOVE SOCCER. IT WILL BE NICE IF THE USA GETS WITH THE PROGRAM. IT IS A GLOBAL SPORT AND IT WAS NOT CREATED IN THE USA AND THE BEST PLAYERS DO NOT PLAY IN THE USA.
To be honest, the shield is the league really...the rest is a knockut competition...yankees called it playoff...lol...the fact that the league is harder and folks find it as a secondary to the playoff is mind boggling to me
There should be 2 games home and away between Inter Miami and Los Angeles FC to decide who is going to be the MLS champion. That's it! Don't need the League cup! or...maybe...use it as something similar to FA cup
RIDÍCULUS !! MESSI NO CALIFICA PARA SER MVP JAJAJAJAJAJA
Who is cuchio? 😂man, go and take a nap....😴
Please, focus on baseball. You are being ridiculous
Messi proving that MLS is dogshit. Ever had a hat trick in a half ever before ? Didn’t think so. Hes 37 and destroying mls lol
Yanks…. Can help themselves.
Mixing football with some other crappy sports .
The MLS is in the football world map thanks to Messi… and Messi only .
IF IS NO Messi … no one will watch it.
For sure I would not.
On top the guy is a GOD . score, assist , energize you frigging, name it.
As Guardiola said once, the best player is Messi , in any position… well maybe goalkeeper ain’t .
So you can choose Paco redballs chico, or Jesus moist Hernadez, just to graced yourself to some particular group, that doesn't change the fact that Messi is not only the MVP but also the indispensable player .
it's sad that Americans think, they used to be the greatest nation now they just argue about everything
This is by far the most American discussion I've heard in a while😂😂 all wannabe knowitall with ball knowledge of a Sunday league 12th man 😂😂😂😂
Shocking defending on some of those goals. MLS defending is shocking.
Giving Inter Miami the spot is a joke. But FIFA is a joke. The suckups are a joke. They were gifted a spot. Period. But the club world cup is a joke tourney too. Nobody really cares.
Because the camel not involved it is a joke
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