It's nice to see the Russian version on what happened and to see that we can even talk about it and agree that Stalin and Molotov lied to Russian people and soldiers and agitated them to attack Finland. Everyone in Finland knew what a suicide it would be to start war with a massive country like Russia and from that perspective Finns just could never have attacked Russia especially with that weak army we had back then. The ordinary Russian people obviously believed what Stalin and Molotov said because of that massive propaganda and it's hard to blame them. Only thing I hope is that Russians or Finns or any other people won't never again let propaganda like that be told to them or let the politicians or government lie to them like they did back then on WW2.
Half of russians still believes that Ukraina is govern nazis and it 'salwaysbeen part of russia?Kiev,Moscow and Novgorod were grounded swedesh vikings!All three were seperated hundreds years!!Peter the Greath finaly united novgorod Moscow and started to build new capitol skt peterrsburg!Still Ukraiana is own Kingdom whit litlle boarderwars against Lithueniian?Polaland was under Sweden and Lithuen!Crimea was free cosacnation I don't know who was the warlord until Cathrin the Greath claimed Crime belongs to Russia!↩
This is a very honest document. However, there is one clear mistake. The amount of Russian infantery soldiers was about 2.3 times bigger than the Finns in the beginning of the war, not 1.3. Naturally this ratio became much bigger during the war, because there were 45 times more Russian citizens than Finns. So the Russian could throw new troops week after week to the front. However, the crucial thing was the enormous power of the Russian tanks, heavy artillery and airplanes. The defenders were rather poorly equipped in these areas. Practically nobody of us Finns had guessed, that we had to fight against a superpower almost alone. A very nasty surprise indeed. On the other hand the big purges in the high ranked officiers weakened the leading of the Red army. Because this army had to be ready for warfare in all kind of terrain, it could not practise much fighting in a typical Finnish forrest. It's enemy was concentrating just that. The Red army military doctrine was only for attacking, to retreat was not an option. The Finns were more dynamical, they had to be. The Russians had very good information about acommodations in Finland, but they didn't understand, that naturally their counterpart would use a strategy of the burned land against the attacker. The Russians would have needed warmed tents like the other side had, but they realized this only after some heavy casualities because of the cold weather. The Finns had a few thousand machinpistols, which were very handy and effective, when the shooting distance was less than 150 meters. The Russians had got the descripitions of this gun in early 30'ies, but after some tests they rejected it. The effective range for this gun was too short, they figured. In open areas it was so, but not in most part of Finland. The Red army learned it's lesson, and in 1941 it had it's own machinepistol in a mass production. Like this film tells, the Russian intelligence had discovered the Mannerheim-line rather well during the pre-war time, but for some reason this knowledge never reached the Red army. Later Timoshenko was furious about this plunder, which costed tens of thousands souldiers. Also those, who didn't die because of the cold weather, were in many cases mentally and physically exhausted badly. They were more or less like sleepwalkers. The Finns had the advantage, that they knew to defend their independence, democracy and religion. They surely had a better motivation than the soldiers of the Red army. However, it would be wrong to say that the moral of the Russian soldiers would have been bad. It was good, but not sky high like among the Finns. You have to remember, that as an attacker the supply routes of the Red army were much longer than the Finnish army. The defenders had a so called inline advantage. They could get ammunitions to the front, and wounded souldiers away from the front more quickly than the Russians. However, the amount of Finnish artillery ammunitions was very bad already in the beginning of this war and quite desperate in late February and March 1940.
It is a reach to take seriously any point of view from a nation which currently holds a place 131 (yes, behind countries like Mexico and Turkey) on the world's corruption index and where freedom of speech is traditionally on dubious level at best. The saddest part is of course that this makes trusting Russia hard even when they are absolutely sincere.
There's Corruption In Russia for sure. But the corruption index is a fucking joke. Finland is at the top positions of it consistently and we laugh about it every time. We have a massive problem with Nepotism on all levels of employment and power. There's plenty of corruption but it's not the kind of corruption that is easily visible to the outside. It's something you have to dig for. It's something that will occasionally blow out in a massive news story here because it was hidden but then uncovered.
Muistakaa esimerkiksi isoviha. Tuo paskaväki on tuottanut harmia kautta aikojen. Muutamia taiteen ja tieteen saavutuksia lukuun ottamatta heistä ei ole koskaan ollut mihinkään hyvään.
Im born in Finland . my father had to go to this war in age of 19. He has told me that reason to war was coming from finnish fascist . Stalin did his best to avoid this catastroph. Later finland made union with hitler and they commonly killed 20 million russian and 3 million polish people. Finland is brutal rascal country still today
It's nice to see the Russian version on what happened and to see that we can even talk about it and agree that Stalin and Molotov lied to Russian people and soldiers and agitated them to attack Finland. Everyone in Finland knew what a suicide it would be to start war with a massive country like Russia and from that perspective Finns just could never have attacked Russia especially with that weak army we had back then. The ordinary Russian people obviously believed what Stalin and Molotov said because of that massive propaganda and it's hard to blame them.
Only thing I hope is that Russians or Finns or any other people won't never again let propaganda like that be told to them or let the politicians or government lie to them like they did back then on WW2.
Yet still it happened, once again :( But now in Ukraine :( poor souls..
False hope about propaganda atm.
Nyt Ukrainassa sama toistuu. Mitään ei ole sotajohtonne oppinut, vaikka elämme 2020 luvulla.
Half of russians still believes that Ukraina is govern nazis and it 'salwaysbeen part of russia?Kiev,Moscow and Novgorod were grounded swedesh vikings!All three were seperated hundreds years!!Peter the Greath finaly united novgorod Moscow and started to build new capitol skt peterrsburg!Still Ukraiana is own Kingdom whit litlle boarderwars against Lithueniian?Polaland was under Sweden and Lithuen!Crimea was free cosacnation I don't know who was the warlord until Cathrin the Greath claimed Crime belongs to Russia!↩
This is a very honest document. However, there is one clear mistake. The amount of Russian infantery soldiers was about 2.3 times bigger than the Finns in the beginning of the war, not 1.3. Naturally this ratio became much bigger during the war, because there were 45 times more Russian citizens than Finns. So the Russian could throw new troops week after week to the front. However, the crucial thing was the enormous power of the Russian tanks, heavy artillery and airplanes. The defenders were rather poorly equipped in these areas. Practically nobody of us Finns had guessed, that we had to fight against a superpower almost alone. A very nasty surprise indeed.
On the other hand the big purges in the high ranked officiers weakened the leading of the Red army. Because this army had to be ready for warfare in all kind of terrain, it could not practise much fighting in a typical Finnish forrest. It's enemy was concentrating just that. The Red army military doctrine was only for attacking, to retreat was not an option. The Finns were more dynamical, they had to be. The Russians had very good information about acommodations in Finland, but they didn't understand, that naturally their counterpart would use a strategy of the burned land against the attacker. The Russians would have needed warmed tents like the other side had, but they realized this only after some heavy casualities because of the cold weather.
The Finns had a few thousand machinpistols, which were very handy and effective, when the shooting distance was less than 150 meters. The Russians had got the descripitions of this gun in early 30'ies, but after some tests they rejected it. The effective range for this gun was too short, they figured. In open areas it was so, but not in most part of Finland. The Red army learned it's lesson, and in 1941 it had it's own machinepistol in a mass production.
Like this film tells, the Russian intelligence had discovered the Mannerheim-line rather well during the pre-war time, but for some reason this knowledge never reached the Red army. Later Timoshenko was furious about this plunder, which costed tens of thousands souldiers. Also those, who didn't die because of the cold weather, were in many cases mentally and physically exhausted badly. They were more or less like sleepwalkers.
The Finns had the advantage, that they knew to defend their independence, democracy and religion. They surely had a better motivation than the soldiers of the Red army. However, it would be wrong to say that the moral of the Russian soldiers would have been bad. It was good, but not sky high like among the Finns.
You have to remember, that as an attacker the supply routes of the Red army were much longer than the Finnish army. The defenders had a so called inline advantage. They could get ammunitions to the front, and wounded souldiers away from the front more quickly than the Russians. However, the amount of Finnish artillery ammunitions was very bad already in the beginning of this war and quite desperate in late February and March 1940.
Mainila provocation was witnessed by Urho Muurinen, a Finnish border guard. His interview is on our channel.
It is a reach to take seriously any point of view from a nation which currently holds a place 131 (yes, behind countries like Mexico and Turkey) on the world's corruption index and where freedom of speech is traditionally on dubious level at best. The saddest part is of course that this makes trusting Russia hard even when they are absolutely sincere.
There's Corruption In Russia for sure. But the corruption index is a fucking joke. Finland is at the top positions of it consistently and we laugh about it every time. We have a massive problem with Nepotism on all levels of employment and power. There's plenty of corruption but it's not the kind of corruption that is easily visible to the outside. It's something you have to dig for. It's something that will occasionally blow out in a massive news story here because it was hidden but then uncovered.
@@ToveriJuri Finland has nepotism, of course, just about everyone is related so its like 90% nepotism already, sorry just being a sarcastic Finn.
Sama kaava toistui Ukrainassa 24.2 alkaen..
Jep
Venäläiset eivät ikinä opi...
Muistakaa esimerkiksi isoviha. Tuo paskaväki on tuottanut harmia kautta aikojen. Muutamia taiteen ja tieteen saavutuksia lukuun ottamatta heistä ei ole koskaan ollut mihinkään hyvään.
Tsaarin ryssät, kommarit ja Z-putinistit slaavikyykkyyn!
Itseasiassa alkoi kasakkamaa krimin liitämisellä venäjään!Krimi ei kuulu kummallekaan!
Honest description.
meni talonpoikien vapautus vähän huonosti koska talonpojat niitä vastaan tappeli
😂😂😂❤
Edellee yks suomen sotilas hoitaa 10 kaveria
Se on juuri näin
Yksi Suomalainen 🇫🇮 vastaa 10 toveria🇷🇺
> da pjotr :D
Репін був українцем!
Never moved to USSR stayed in Free World❤
Edward Hynninen at 24:38
Fuck no.
да бля...
Im born in Finland . my father had to go to this war in age of 19. He has told me that reason to war was coming from finnish fascist . Stalin did his best to avoid this catastroph. Later finland made union with hitler and they commonly killed 20 million russian and 3 million polish people. Finland is brutal rascal country still today
Suksi helvettiin!
Troll...
Valetta.
OK... and how are things at Savuškin street 55?
What a total nonsense! I guess Stalin was such a good guy. 🤣😬🤣🤣😬🤣🤣🤣