There's no punishment of UK from EU. UK is just treated as every other non-EU country. If you are used to EU privileges and you are losing them by leaving the EU, it may feel like punishment, but it's just the life outside the EU.
Utter balloney, but Brits couldnt give a toss either way. It isnt only the UK floundering economically , its the whole of the western world. Life outside the EU is great!!! No more listening to shitty overly ambitious Euro trash politcians trying to recreate the soviet union in Europe.
Before the "Windsor Framework" was negotiated, more customs checks were made on goods travelling internally within the UK, from Great Britain to Northern Ireland, than were undertaken on the rest of the EU imports. Seems somewhat disproportionate. Of course the EU wasn't being unnecessarily difficult.
@@sauermaischeyahoo7834The Windsor Framework is a symptom of Brexit so therefore Brexit is the problem. Unionists will deny that instead blaming The Windsor Framework for the Irish Sea Border.
@@RFE-jl6lo People have seen how poorly UK has been doing after Brexit and that's why it's really hard for me to believe that most countries would leave EU even if they called for referendums. Sorry about my broken English (I have a hangover xD )
So... the EU is punishing the UK, by giving it exactly what it asked for. It couldn't be that the UK had four years to prepare for leaving, and made _no_ preparations.
Correct, no preparations. David Cameron spent public money on the Remain campaign and fully expected the Remainers to win the referendum. I expect he promised that outcome to the EU before they let him hold a referendum. That is most likely why he fell on his sword the moment the result was clear. He had failed his masters. If he had been on the side of the people he would have prepared and he would have carried out the subsequent Brexit process.
There is no punishment. The UK voted on making 3rd countries disadvantaged when it was inside the EU, but it was strangely forgetful of this and clueless as to what was going to happen. Too many believed the lies that we would be given everything, as the Leave side promised. We need to re-join ASAP and the EU want us back in. There would be be no Schengen or Euro needed.
@@pastyman001 The EU is not about free trade it is about control. The UK would like the free trade aspect but not the control aspect. The other issue is that free trade comes at the expense of being protectionist against everyone else. This is also not a great idea. We became unable to trade with the 160 or so and had to be confined to the other 27. Maggie said in her Bruges speech that the control aspect and the trade aspect were actually independent ideas. The EU, however, use trade as the carrot while imposing more and more control as time passes.
@@pastyman001 Yep. But "ASAP" means "When the EU is convinced the UK won't just leave again with a change of government, plus 10 years negotiation and preparation".
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An error: Boris Johnson was actually all in favour of remaining in the EU, until he realised he could get to power with the Leave campaign. He switched sides early on, to devastating effect. He has become seen to be a major part, if not THE major part, of the demise of the British economy, stability and political discourse over the recent years.
It was the Sun that dun it. Years of relentless anti EU stories in all national papers, read by to many who believed that 'they wouldn't print it if it weren't true'. Boris just saw an opportunity to become PM. At the time. he was the worst PM we have ever had, of course every subsequent PM has beaten his record.
I'm fairly sure Boris is a populistic politician that would switch his views if it would gain him power but did he really wanted to remain? When he was a writer he was very Eurosceptic and wrote a lot of silly stuff about Europe and I just don't see him as someone who would like to remain in the EU unless it would benefit him in some way.
@@Silverflame1 All else being equal, Johnson would have preferred to remain in the EU. He's not as smart as he thinks but he's smarter than he sometimes seems and, as a senior politician, he had plenty of access to the numbers that indicated Brexit would hurt the UK badly. The numbers that the rabid press, Putin's stooges and the far right called project fear. When a reporter asked Rachel Johnson what the dinner table was like at Christmas she said it was split between those who thought Brexit was a bad idea and those who thought it was a terrible idea, this was about 2021. His anti-EU journalism was just careerism, shock horror, man bites dog type thing. It was easy for him to make shit up (straight bananas was one of his) so he didn't need to do any work. And he is notoriously lazy. Have a look at his face the morning after the referendum - he's in shock, he never thought he'd win. The campaign was just a step on the way to him becoming PM and a way to kick Cameron who he's been jealous of since school. It's pathetic and Johnson is a narcissist, maybe even sociopath so he only cares about his own ambition. If he thought he could be PM without Brexit, and it didn't require any extra work, he's have been an out and proud remainer. Anyone who believes Johnson believes in anything other than Johnson has not been paying attention.
And we simply don't care about the EU to be honest. To think I voted remain is scary. This dissolution some in the EU have that England is always going on about Brexit is laughable 😂. Every time I see something it's a EU citizen slagging England off.
@hey12542 Well, you won't like being slagged off by a Scotsman either. Brexit is less painful if you retired on a good pension and own your home outright. It might be great if you are extremely wealthy.
@@John-qd5ofWhy would I not like being slagged off by a Scotsman? I couldn't care less about Scotland, it's a different country. slag off who you want it's irrelevant to me 🤷🏻.
@@cyborgbadger1015 Things you perhaps never said, but I have read enough venomous comments by brexiteers who claimed the opposite. And seen interviews with UK citizens who claimed the EU was punishing them because they had to queue in the line that said "other countries" at European airports. Brexit has been a very polarizing topic, both within the UK as between the UK and Europe. Anyway, the only good thing I see about Brexit is that since then populist and right wing political parties on the continent have stopped talking against the EU.
@@janentomenkafka Another bonus is that the UK can be excluded from all the supply chains, formerly the gate to europe for other continents, it being excluded every passing day more and more as there is no more single market. In addition to that many of the companies have to move to the EU, in order to sell. It is a great win for the EU.
@@cyborgbadger1015 You said you did't want to be in the EU and now that you are not you expect the same advantages as you had when in the Union so yes you did say these things!.
One thing needs correcting - the UK government did NOT apply the safeguards included in the EU directive on Free Movement designed to ensure citizens of other EU states would not become a burden on the UK. And that is something that Caneron kept coming up against when he did his round of EU capitals prior to the Referendum seeking a better deal for the UK. Why are you not applying the rules already in place he kept being asked - he had no answer!
It’s actually worse than that. The U.K. was - and still is - the only major European country that lacks any form of domestic residence control. Which means that anyone who enters the U.K. can effectively disappear. When we had FOM that meant that the U.K. government had almost no idea at all of how many EU citizens lived in the U.K., or where they were, or what they were doing. It is nowadays the case that the U.K. is a much easier place to be an illegal immigrant than nearly anywhere else - no residence control, no ID and a weakly regulated labour market . A law was actually passed in 2006 to introduce residence control but the Tories - you know, the people who claim to be tough on immigration - repealed it in 2010.
Sorry, should have made it clearer - that was WHY we couldn’t implement the directive on free movement, because we didn’t have the administrative means to do so. Because the law introducing them had been repealed by - the government of which Cameron was PM. It would be funny if it wasn’t tragic.
The British got what they wanted and what they voted for, they are out of the EU, they can negotiate their own treaties and agreements with around 194 countries and they can take care of the immigration issues related to these countries themselves. Of course they don't have preferential access to the EU internal market and they no longer have freedom of travel within the EU, but that's what they wanted. These are the benefits they wanted and got, but there is no punishment from the EU. You have voluntarily terminated your Clug membership and are now surprised that you can no longer use the benefits of club membership. Find the mistake
@@dalogan7290 LOL you make it sounds as though "your wish is our command" LMAO. You couldnt get us back "in" even you returned all the billions stolen over 40 years🤣
*My Perspective on Brexit* I used to buy most of my things from Amazon and eBay UK. However, after 2020, my orders started getting stuck in customs for weeks with heavy fees to pay. Consequently, I shifted my purchases to Amazon Germany. And that’s the end of the story.
EU is a package deal, and single market is part of it. You can leave EU, but then you will leave the common market, as well. It's simple as that. EU isn't punishing UK, UK is punishing itself. But that's your right, of course.
EU is anything that is agreed between itself and a European country. A country could join the EU single market without being an EU member subject to approval. During Brexit negotiations we saw that the EU was happy for the UK to remain in the EU single market so long as it adhered to the 'Level playing field'. If that had of come to fruition the UK would no longer of been an EU member country but would have been a EU single market associate. It's also a real possibility this could be something that happens in future. EFTA countries like Norway and Switzerland aren't in the EU but are granted EU single market access due to the EFTA's connection to the EU.
@Patrickuotinen Be a little fair. First the UK and then the USA were under a long Russian and maybe campaign of propaganda. That is why a lot of the slogans between Brexit and Maga are the same. Russia has been trying to break up NATO and they found the easiest way is to convince the dumb people who never both to vote, to commit a patriotic suicide. Destroy the country you love by being so stupid that you vote when you shouldn't. We see how much the Russian army sucks. Their keyboard warriors have done more damage than the entire Russian military could do in 10 years... especially when the military actions actually strengthen NATO. WE just have to be glad that Putin is so old. IF he was younger he might have been patient enough to wait until Brexit and Maga did more damage to NATO and the EU. P.S. For those who are slow. You damage Nato with Brexit by ruining the British economy, increasing xenophobia, and deprioritizing the military, so they would ignore calls for aid from countries like the Baltics.
@@hey12542 Norway and Iceland as part of the European Economic Area (EEA) are obligated to follow the same rules as the EU countries. They are only excepted from the common fishing policy, and they don't have much say to the rules. So they actually are following the rules made in Brussels, but they don't participate to the decision making, they just confirm the rules made by EU and include them to their legislation. But if that's the kind of agreemente UK really wants, I'm pretty sure it could be arranged that the UK could join EEA, but it would be essentially the same situation as if the UK would have remained in the EU, but exchanged its vote in all the matters to the right of decide about its own fishing policy only. As for the Switzerland, it sort of negotiates another deal every time some new rule is accepted in Brussels, so that would kind of respond to the situation, where you would having the Brexit negotiations infinitely. It is true that the EU could accept any deal it (or rather all of its member countries) wanted. The thing is that it is rather arrogant to think, that the UK could dictate any kind of deal with the EU that the UK wanted. By promising such thing to the voters the Brexiteer were lying. EU doesn't have any obligation or reason to give any third country a special status.
The EU isn't punishing the UK. When EU citzens decide what goods or services to spend money on, cost and quality are still what they think of first. There is no 'secret' mechanism whereby the European Commission is delibrately stopping purchases of UK goods and services.
The world is changing. BRICS is the new kid on the block. Europe and the USA are no longer the centre of global business that they once were. The UK can now trade with over 160 countries including the most populous ones rather than just 27 .
"The Commission has spent 45 minutes debating whether we ought to regulate the length of candle-wicks, and decided that we cannot decide." - EU bureaucracy
@@Cheung23s I watched it live. Also - "shall we regulate the bend in bananas?" And "it's time to elect a new President - you have one candidate to vote for and it'll be a secret ballot." There is no defending that sort of nonsense.
The point of Brexit was deregulating the financial sector. Despite the government's assertions of wanting to improve economic competitiveness through Brexit, their real aim was to enhance competitiveness and regulatory efficiency in the financial sector. They chose to ignore the fact that post-Brexit deregulation in the financial sector, alongside a fragile economy lacking decades of public investment, would lead to the disastrous consequences Brexit Britain is facing right now.
@@hey12542 there were hundreds of reasons people wanted to leave & same for remaining. But we had two choices, in or out. My reason to leave were like the result. 52% out 48% to stay in. After the 8 years & if it did come to the chance to re apply for membership (we can’t rejoin). I’m out. I don’t want to go down the path of joining an EU federal state. That is the path it’s going down. As Michael Caine said before the referendum. He’d rather be a poor master than a rich slave.
Many were unskilled and arrived with nothing and the tax payer was keeping them. That's a fact. Also in London there were Polish companies advertising jobs for Polish applicants only in labouring 😂. This disadvantaged the British jobseeker and tensions rose. The government at that time had to tell employers that they couldn't discriminate against eligible British or EU or work visa holder applicants. You can see how the bubbles for Brexit brewed and how it was easy for certain politicians to gain easy support. I don't think Brexit was the answer to the situation but we are where we are and it is what it is. The EU should have told England what it really thought of it while it was in the EU but we only heard how awful we were as a nation after England left. I didn't vote for Brexit but I wouldn't want to go back into the EU again either.
Yes but the UKs immigration problems started when we adopted EU Human Rights laws. Hopefully we can slowly unwind those in the coming years, although really its too late. Brexit was some 40 years too late. The UK allowed themselves to be sucked into a non democratic union.
I'm from the US and I can certainly state that it is possible for people to emotionally vote against their own best interests. Particularly when those interests are exploited by the political class. Basically lies. What you going to do now?
It was not 52% voting to leave and 48% voting to remain. Leave 17million, remain 16 million but 13 million did not bother to vote and 18 million of those entitled to vote were not even on the electoral register! Voter apathy is the big issue.
2016: UK: When we leave, we'll have all the benefits of staying, because the EU needs us more than we need them! EU: No, you'll become a 3rd country. US: End of the queue. UK: We'll see about that! Rule, Britannia! 2021: UK: OK, we might not have all the benefits, in fact, we'll have none. But no matter, we'll trade all over the world, that'll compensate for it. NZ: Can't wait, ha ha! :-) 2024: UK: Where's my unicorn? Why are you so meeeeeean?!
Mmm bit early to be talking about Brexit outcomes. 40 years to ket the EU get us into the mess, could be that long getting back out of it, but hey ho. Thats the British spirit. We all make mistakes. Thatcher was always right. I grew listening to her politics, and she got most things right, maybe with the exception of privatising national utilities.
@@rufanuf1 Oh, right, I forgot JRM’s prediction of getting the benefits after 50 years… Sure; after all, economical prognoses for decades ahead never fail, eh?
It won't implode but it's making a lot of things unnecessarily difficult and people are missing lots of opportunities. Farage and his mob have a lot to answer for and no politician has the spine to address the situation.
@sambaliwingodon’t worry. We’re just gonna sit back & watch you sort out Russia, who have just moved the EU’s Estonia boarder. If you ring the Uk there will be no one answering.
@@Optimistic-101 Still a NATO member. Wish Brexitannia leave the NATO.the Submarine bases are all in Scotland.They are welcome in the EU family. Little England is not. 🇪🇺🇳🇱
The one thing the EU is certainly not doing is punishing the Uk for leaving. What the Uk is currently experiencing is the start and only the start of the consequences of leaving the EU. The negotiations such as they were as far as the Tory party was concerned were not meant to give the Uk special status, it threw that privilege away when it chose to leave, They were to smooth that leaving sufficiently to prevent economic shock that could have driven an already shakey economy over the edge because the government was fully aware of the consequences of leaving the EU in terms of restricted trade and travel. The problem was they had not told the people about this or the extent of the loss they would incur. They kept very quiet about it all choosing instead to spoon-feed it in small palatable portions and with each new traunch of restrictions infer that this was not the fault of the government but of the EU and yet all of it was clearly written down in the form of rules and regulations about the operation of the Single Market and the Customs Union. Rules and regulations the Uk had once had a larger part in defining and had happily enjoyed the protections of for years. Rules and Regulations they had now chosen to have used against them. Those that wanted Brexit lied and deceived the people of the Uk by first not educating them about the EU making it easy for them to gaslight the population into walking out of the Union. Second, they could have explained to the people exactly what leaving actually meant to them personally. They did not, worse still they tried to build a smokescreen to prevent them seeing it at all and finally they used their own democratic system against the people by claiming that Brexit gave them a mandate to leave when it did no such thing. The Brexit vote was nothing more than an opinion poll, it placed no charge on the government to act at all. The mandate only became apparent when the Tory party won the next election on that ticket after months of bombarding the people with the message that leave meant leave and then using every political trick in the playbook to prevented any form of meaningful debate on the matter and having a weak opposition led by people who covertly wanted the Uk to leave the EU it became a done deal even before the due date. Can the Uk ever rejoin the EU, Possibly in years to come that might be possible but for the foreseeable future with no political or public consensus on the matter the answer must remain no, the Uk can not rejoin the EU, it can negotiate for better access possibly under EFTA but it will then come under the scrutiny of the rules of the Single Market regarding an area of legislation the government and its financial backers would much rather the public never be allowed to understand, it is a subject a lot are aware of buy no one dares mention it for the ridicule and scorn that they are subjected to in the Tory client media for doing so but if we are to make any progress on this matter the Uk is going to be subjected to those rules and regulations and it is going to have to comply or pay the price in hard cash. If you know then you know of what it is I speak and you also know that it was the reason behind Brexit in the first place.
By holding a referendum, Cameron threw the entire country under the bus to try to solve an internal battle in the Conservative party over our membership of the EU. He gambled. The country lost.
No, the UK was not one of the first ones to enter the coalition (EU). It reluctantly joined the EEC because the trade alliance it created with Sweden, Denmark was not fulfilling expectations. The UK was ALWAYS half in half out.
As far back as the premiership of Harold Macmillan the British government had been seeking to join the EEC. This made economic sense as we had lost the resources of the Empire after WW2. We joined under Edward Heath in 1973. At the time, ideological opposition to EEC membership was driven by many in the Labour Party. However, the 1975 referendum confirmed the nation's enthusiasm for membership with over 67% of people voting to stay in the EEC. Our economy grew massively during our membership, plus we also had concessions on the Euro and Schengen. It has only been in the last 20 years that Eurosceptics have sought to blame, and scapegoat, the failure of domestic policy on the EU. Our membership was a positive move, only made negative by a hostile xenophobic and disingenuous press. There was no clamouring to leave by the ordinary populace. The referendum in 2016 was designed to quell infighting in the Tory Party. It backfired, hence the current disaster.
@@user-cu5nw7kq5b 80% of australian cars were British before 1974.. after near zero. we never had a referendum on the treaty of maastrict - that's when free movement came into play. and/ its in 1st gear atm, UK only just left the starting blocks, never fear europhiles- Albania and north Macedonia are EU inbound, with their burgeoning economies, and financial and trade center clout..
@@user-cu5nw7kq5b and then along came the Maastricht and Lisbon treaties which fundamentally changed the entity from a trading bloc to a political superstate.
The EU is not punishing the UK it is dealing with it the very same as every other third country, but been british they have to blame the EU for their own failures. The uk was not one of the first EEC countries
@hey12542 the "EU citizens" do not exist. The citizens of EU countries can live in the UK, as long as they apply for a visa. Likewise the British can live in European Union countries, as long as they apply for visas. EU countries citizens choose not to live in the UK, now is the turn of the former British colonies to repopulate Britain... For those who voted brexit because of immigration... It must to hurt
@@pedrolopes3542 Yet it seems to be remoaners moaning about it? Just goes to show how politically confused a lot of people are. They confuse mass immigration as race. Mass immigration of non caucasions not just into the UK but Europe as a whole, has been solely down to EU legislation and political/economical stupid thinking. yes its destroyed the UK, why do you think so many wanted to get out of the EU? What else do they have in store for their members? Didnt the ICC (a European Court ran by stupid EU supporting woke European judges) just compare the leader of Hamas to the politcially elected leader of a country???? This is just the kind of shitshow being ran in the EU those who can remember the days of politcial decency are trying to escape from.
@@hey12542I live in Spain and I am a Spaniard. I see many inmigrants (they call themselves expats) from UK complaining about the stay limit of 180 days. Many voted Brexit having retired and owning a house here (?). Now they are in trouble. Many did not bother to learn Spanish either. They thought rules would not apply to them? I think Brexit and its consequences were not well explained; it is not only about jobs, what about the 300k retired British living in Spain? Now, we can also talk about a similar number of Spaniards working in UK. At the end I guess it will be both more difficult to British to retire in Spain and for Spaniards to work in UK, but not many people talk about Brexit here, is not a concern. Indeed, other type of ilegal inmigration is a concern, the same in UK and in the EU.
@@pedrolopes3542I can't possibly think why you think it must hurt 😂, England voted Brexit so why would it hurt? I am fully aware of how EU citizens may be able to live in England and I used EU citizens as an umbrella term for citizens of EU countries. You need that notion in your mind that the UK is hurting to keep you happy 😂, it's pathetic.
@andersbjrnsen7203 Strange to say. You guys are in the market bound by Eu rules and you don't join because of fishery rights and mabey oil. (Don't know of this one)
Norway is pretty much EU colony lol, has to follow EU laws, pay EU taxes but has no vote and is partially restricted in free trade while trade going from EU to Norway is completely unrestricted.... Like for real, I see no benefit for Norway staying out hahahah They just can't finally admit that.
Is smart to keep a distance and just flirting with the EU, if you’re too close, they will aim for your oil, fish and other resources. Norwegian is taking a very smart approach on this.
If you leave the prestigious golf club and stop paying the membership fee, why do you expect the club to let you play for free or even bother to spend any time punishing or even thinking of you when lots of other wants to be new members?
Wait until anti EU parties win a majority in the farce that is the European parliament !! We MIGHT consider rejoining when the EU becomes democratic.. Until then.....auf wiedersehen !! 😂
The UK did the EU a HUGE favor by leaving as they have become a lesson on what happens to your economy when you do. Recall at the same time the UK was talking about leaving, Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain were also talking openly about it? You dont hear them mention it much anymore do you? Funny that.
Err....you do actually, many in France and Germany are fed up with the unelected blob also... especially now they have/are taking away Nation states right to veto laws they don't agree with. So the unelected are overriding the democratic elected Parliamentarians... Taking away Citizens voices. Not Democracy
EU/Brexit is simple to explain, if you know the history. 1) EEC (pre-EU) was formed to stop the centuries of fighting between France/Germany by joining their fates financially 2) gear 1 was a Free Trade Area, where EEC members agreed to not levy tariffs on each others products 3) gear 2 was a Customs Union, meaning that goods could enter the free trade area from any of the memeber states 4) gear 3 was EU, where non-tariff barriers (regulations and standards controls) were removed by harmonizing them between member states. 5) UK was allowed to join after lots of resistance from esp. France, because they knew UK would benefit greatly 6) UK joined and financially benefitted hugely from EU membership as well as getting special perks 7) Hubris and greed ("we are doing great because WE are so great, not because we are part of one of the largest trading blocks in the world") took over in Britain and decades of blaming the EU for underinvestment in UK society (a choice that the UK did to themselves, see Piketty) finally boiled over in the EU referendum. As a result, the UK trade gear vs. EU area dropped from 3 to less than 1. Customs, tariffs, food health checks ... everything is re-instated as it was before EEC. Its basic math: if goods are checked and customs paid at border, speed of commerce drops 10x. You can disagree on politics, but border checks are like gravity, it'll eventually pull you to earth no matter how you pretend to be flying while falling. ( Editors note, before you go down a loonybin path as per response below : Europäische Wirtschaftsgemeinschaft 1957, check wikipedia)
I'm afraid you are wrong ! The European Economic Community was actualy a 1930s N4zi plan for a pan European dictatorship. They called it the Eurospaisch Wirtschafts Gemeinschaft which is exactly the same as the later English translation. Many of its objectives, including an end to European wars are contained in the booklet they produced after their 1941 Berlin conference. Though copies are now rare, one is available in the British library if anyone would like to read it. So far it's all going just as they planned it .
@@inwalters What I have said is all easily proved historical facts. But if you choose to deny them, perhaps it's you who has smoked weed. While I have a very clear head because I have never smoked even cigarettes, let alone weed.
Boris Johnson thought Britain could just pull out the channel tunnel and swim away. Turns out being part of Europe without being part of the EU (or at least close enough to have free trade and immigration) is a lot like being far away from Europe, without being close to other countries in return. The pandemic has ended, but Britain is still self-isolating.
Never did the UK fully follow the rules of The Eu when they were members of the EU, but now that the UK is not a member of the EU it must follow the rules of the Eu and also the rules that say that each country of the EU is an individual country to import to for non-members. Is it a way to punish those how leave? No, but those how ask for the butter and to bed the wife of the merchant also.
The only problem with Brexit was us Brit's trusted our spineless politicians to deliver the Brexit we voted for unfortunately this didn't happen and they bungled what should have been a relatively straightforward process, we underestimated the level of corruption in our own government!
Brexit was the first time in history when two countries or entities decided to sit down to make the prevailing trading situation worse after those discussions , best of luck to the UK in their journey wherever it takes them they cant blame anyone now hope they never re-join the EU is better off without UK .
If you leap off a cliff while claiming the rocks below don't exist, it isn't a punishment from the clifftop for leaving when you splat like a ripe tomato.
I have been watching the Brexit news since early 2019. It was all just so surreal. I would expect a former Empire to have a measure of awareness of international politics, but reality disabused me of that notion.
Brexit was not the largest voter turnout in the UK, it only got 72% turnout, 75% is normally recognized as a minimum threshold for a referendum to have validity. This was one of dozens of lies parroted by Leave supporters after the referendum.
@@aleph8888 The UK doesn't really "do" democracy.... Anyone that wants to understand how referendums work should look to the Swiss. Min 75% turnout and 66% support plus a 2nd referendum to confirm the first. The 2016 referendum was an advisory poll, nothing more. British people are some of the most gullible punters on the planet.
@@jcoker423 Yes, why wouldn't I? They use referendums to decide what to have for breakfast in the morning. Unlike the UK they at least attempt to be democratic.
On that last comment. There is no punishment going on. Some in the UK dreamed of being able to get a deal with all the good stuff without any obligations. Such a deal would be suisid for the union. Of course you have to give it you want to get. It was just dreams, overconfidence and lies.
totally sad for the british people! imagine voting representatives into office & then being forced to make an uneducated vote about the future of your country.....ofc it cant go well! what are these "politicians" even for, if not to make educated decisions for the future of the country?! cant say we germans miss britain, but its still sad, to see a country mess up this bad & leave the most united europe in history, just to fail THIS HARD!
The IMF have just announced they expect the UK to have faster growth than Germany France and Spain over the next 6 years. We have been stitched up by our own leaders but the UK will be a leader in Europe none the less.
hmm 2nd biggest economy in europe, 6th in the world.. suddenly becomes ike 15th in the world? imagine what it will be for the other countries in europe then? spain somalia, portugal south soudan.. france will be like .. poorer than portugal..
The logic though 🤷🏻. How can England give something back that hasn't been taken against its will? The GFA says NI can unite with the Republic by having a referendum and returning a yes vote. England isn't holding NI against its will. It is up to the people of NI and the Republic if they choose to unite. People keep making this same comment about giving NI back 😂, NI will do what it wants on its own terms how it should be. If it unites with the Republic I'm sure it will all be done amicably and that will be it.
FFS, no one in Great Britain wants it. It’s only still part of the UK because of the loony Umionist population want to be and feel extremely strongly about it. I’ve never been anywhere with kerb sides posted red white and blue and Union flags strewn across the streets.
Treated as a third country, not punished. The UK is not trading with the EU but individual countries with their own trading rules. Some similar some not. The UK messed its own bed and brexshiteers need to admit they got it wrong as a first step to recovery.
@@rufanuf1 Bollocks! Brexshit was sold on nothing but lies and incompetence. Austerity was a factor too. Many used their vote as a swipe at Cameron. How many leave campaigners did we view saying that it would be mad to leave the Single Market and the Custom Union? How many said everything will be cheaper and Britain will have countries clamoring for trade deals? It was a con job which made most poorer and no one voted for that but the grifters.
@hughmckendrick3018 Hey Hugh. You make such an important and significant point, thank you, yet which gets little or no mention it seems by virtually anyone. Once Britain was out of the EU, then EU should have then had as much irrelevance to the UK as the UK has become to the EU. And I dare say that many Brexiteers might not disagree, except of course it was never going to work out that way. So all this nonsense of trying to blame the EU, and “the EU is trying to punish us!” For what?! Absolute piffle and total bollocks!
Smart people just like stupid people have stupid ideas all the time. Brexit was a stupid idea. Having a 'hard Brexit' made it even worse. Trade is the lifeblood of nations. The EU always puts international trade first, internally by abolishing trade barriers and having the same standards, and externally by having long standing beneficial trade agreements with as many markets as possible. The UK is simply lacking the knowhow to do regulations and trade agreements on their own, and lacks the international weight that the EU trade block provided. 'But, now we don't have to obey EU regulations anymore' you say? Well, next to those regulations being sensible and beneficial for quality, health and safety, many countries already follow the EU regulations when exporting, and GB has to follow them when exporting to the EU. But, but the Commonwealth? The EU has the most free trade agreements in human history, the part of the Commonwealth that don't have trade agreements with the EU will not make up the difference.
@@rufanuf1 Well, the problem is that international trade is too complex for most people to get. But the conmen and deluded ethnonationalists that spearheaded Brexit simply abused the trust of normal people.
"...many countries already follow the EU regulations when exporting," Indeed this is called the Brussels Effect. The EU's tough safety standards can become the standard around the world, even though they're not actual laws outside the EU. That's the Brussels effect! It's like the EU's rules rippling outward.
@@louis-philippearnhem6959 It´s actually more expensive and time consuming to try to push your own more loose regulations than to just abide by these high standards. This counts extra for countries that border the EU. Eu euh, I mean, bendy banana lie hur hur!
You say 'in hindsight' leaving the single market would have a negative impact on the economy, but it wasn't hindsight. It was predicted by the remain campaign, and dismissed by the leavers as 'project fear'.
Exactly. Well before referendum Internet was full of people telling Brits what will happen after they leave. Clearly, explicitly and repeatedly. Didn't work, so now they reap what they sown.
@@FrikInCasualMode Yes I remember the scare stories about food etc from the remoaners the govt even got sucked in with the BS,building & updating extra ports for the shipping issues, that never happened.
Only one known economist supported brexit and he said it would destroy British manufacturing and food production. The consensus was widely known and completely against brexit. There was no hindsight involved.
The EU is NOT punishing the UK. The EU always respected the decision, no matter how stupid it was. The EU always worked hard to make the divorce possible, no matter how painful. The EU now says, we always work with UK as they are old friends.
@@cyborgbadger1015 Because you cannot eat it. Why is it so hard to understand? It is like a religion, you want to believe, fine, but don't tell everybody, that they will go to hell if they don't, that's BS and you know it!
I totally agree. Brexit has never been about economy. It was about protection of the 50 trillion trust fund business and the personal needs of a handful elites: Arron Banks, BoJo, JRM, and not much else.
There were 759 different agreements signed by the EU on behalf of the member states with 168 countries. 295 concerned trade, 69 fisheries, 65 transport, 49 customs and 45 nuclear issues. UK did not join any "free trade area" when leaving EU. It would have to renegotiate all its tradeagreements with the rest of the world. With EU it got the TCA wich is not workin very well since it excludes services. Since first of January 2024 a transition operiod ended and UK has no longer passporting rights of financial services into EU. In 2025 EU will have moved out all the Eurodenominated clearing bussines to othe financial centers. The current trade agreements UK has are 68 rollovers of EU agreements that have to be renegotiated in the future and three agreements with Japan, Australia and new Zealand and they were all worse than what UK had as a member. All the quotas UK had as an EU member, for dairyproducts for example, were gone. They stayed in EU and were split up between memberstates. That is why Japan did not want to expand its quota for cheese and neither did Canada.
The EU did not punish the UK. The Brits punished themselves, becoming the first country ever to impose economic sanctions against itself. That's why the now universally accepted logo for Brexit is a man pointing a gun at his foot.
@rufanuf1 As I said, if you are a retired homeowner and on a good pension, Brexit was okay. If you are very wealthy, and your funds have performed well, then Brexit is good.
Britain has a chronic negative balance of payments, i.e. it imports more than it exports. BoE numbers used: Compared to the average rates for 2015 GBP is down 15% versus EUR, down 17% versus USD and EUR is only down 3% versus USD. Therfore , regarding a lot of its imports the UK is in a higher cost situatio than pre Brexit. Apart from the evident slowdown in physical trade the migration from the CIty of euro based transactions like clearing and derivatives has hardly begun. Brexit isn't a guillotine. It's slow death by a thousand cuts..
As Britain is too populous and will very probably remain so, Britain will depend on imports indefinitely. Britain cannot produce enough food to sustain itself; that is the biggest problem. Second, British food standards differ from the EU standards, which is impractical an drives up costs. And there is the reason for a significant part of the imbalance of payments.
@@AdLockhorst-bf8pz Unfortunately, I know from personal experience how food insufficient the UK was and is. I was born there in 1942 and as a youngster thought that eggs were a yellow powder that came in cardboard boxes from the US. hHe boxes were great because they were purposely made to be cut up to make brightly coloured toys for kids. Anyway, things worked OK in the 19th century for the UK when its Empire and other countries could supply it with food and it, as "the workshop of the world" could supply them with what their indusrries, if they even had any, were onot able to produce, Unfortunately. Britain's upper class and ruling elite has always held even trade, much less industry, in disdain. They never fully grasped that "where there's muck there's brass" is what really kept their countrey alive. So, they sold their industries to foreigners and put al their "real" eggs into the financial services basket. Unfortunately, much of that wull move from the City. Platforms are coming on line in EU financial centres to deal with the high volume euro clearing and other euro based financial transactions.
@@maxharbig1167 a magical castle floating in the sky, untethered from the earth; the financial industry in a nutshell. Stock trading was invented in Amsterdam, the Netherlands in a coffee house and while that is okay, things like derivatives - and rather more recently cryptocurrency - lost the connection... all only worth anything because people *believe* it's worth something. Cloud Cuckoo land 🤷 how many politicians make big billion pound decisions without ever thinking "wait ... the average Brit gets paid 💷 a month so this plan means ❌ people for ❌ months ... *that's ❌ LIFETIMES!* 😳" Finance and politics just has NO sense of the human scale anymore. It's all just numbers, abstract. 😰
@@AdLockhorst-bf8pz "Britain cannot produce enough food to sustain itself; that is the biggest problem" Utter baloney. Of course it can. The fact it doesnt is a legacy of being in the EU with its stupid agricultural policy that stripped the UKs agricutlural sector bare. If the Netherlands can feed its self 10 times over, sure the UK can do the same, and in time it will. It annoys me that we never hear about this kind of initiative from our politicians. A massive push in food self reliance would be great for the economy and the nations general well being.
@@rufanuf1 If it is possible for Britain to be food sufficient why couldn't it produce enough food in WW2, when there was even the Land Army and women were drafted, under the Manpower Act, to become Land Girls? Is there enough arable land and a suitable enough climate in the UK to feed a population of 65 million?
The preparation of the UK citizens to leave already happened earlier in this century. For years leading up to the referendum UK politicians blamed the EU for everything that wasn't popular with the public, and everything that was popular was of their making. I wasn't surprised the people voted to leave, as they were groomed to think negative about the EU. Credit where credit is due.
The EU is such a powerful economy that however hard a Brexit the UK got they were always going to be in the position the Brexitists thought they were in. I.e. having to pay into the EU and obey EU rules but with no say. Prior to leaving the UK had a great deal of power over the rules and most were introduced to fulfil the ambitions of the single market that was designed by the UK in the first place.
One of my EU citizen friends is a doctor, who misses the days when they could cross the channel to work a weekend in a UK hospital for a truly exorbitant pay cheque. The casual weekend shifts they were doing aren't being given to a UK resident now, because the UK doesn't have enough doctors. Those shifts are simply not being covered, so the quality of health care in the UK has dropped. Those shifts won't be covered until the UK either trains more of its own citizens to be doctors, or starts letting non-UK residents enter the country at will to do highly paid professional work again. Does anyone see the UK training a whole lot more doctors?
Same thing with the lorry drivers,all sorted now though,although the junior doctors want more money,I suggest they go & live in the EU for less money as you state.
I was born in England, left in 1972 and did not regret it. The average UK citizen does not know much about the EU, they get their information from gutter press and corrupt self serving politicians. The country was having problems long before they got the Brexit idea. Blaming the EU for something that they caused is preposterous.
I've met Brits that voted leave, consented that the situation of the UK is much worse but: THEY STIL ARE CONVINCED THAT "IF BORIS DID GET HIS WAY, THE UK WOULD BE THE MOST WEALTHIEST NATION IN THE WORLD" They probably voted Nigel Farage last week. Some people never learn.
@@juliansadler6263 They did not win, winning would have been a successful Brexit, they lost only they voted to lose - like a turkey voting for Christmas.
@@JohnnyinMNWell your idiocy is not a fail unfortunately. There was no Exceptionalism. It was a democratic vote and the result was as it was. It was a UK vote not an individual country in Britain or northern Ireland vote. I never hear any English person talking about this anymore, they're all getting on with their lives. I think Scotland and Northern Ireland need to leave the UK and run back to the EU if they are that desperate, in turn making England defacto independent so we can also close borders with them and with Wales. The population of England should reduce by this as all the pro EU people leave England to go to a EU country.
The UK clearly made the right decision to leave the EU. It has a greater level of democratic control over its own borders and laws. It saves billions each year in EU membership fees. The EU is an organisation in serious decline.
@@coalhouse_walkerjnr4735I find your reference to me being deluded offensive given that it's remainers like you who have really lost the plot here 😂. If you're optimistic then that's clearly a positive for your mental health and by the way some of you go on maybe being optimistic is what you need cause your coping strategies are shocking and you can't understand the principles of democracy.
@@aldob5681 the English never could see themselves part of the European project, not like the Scottish or the Northern Irish who realized the precariousness of an EU border across the Isle. Why should we not look to see the leave voters go through all the stages of grief, realizing what the wrought and brought onto themselves? It is a thorough education for us all, how looking backwards will not serve us to find new solutions.
@@lynnm6413 the EU is a peace project based on solidarity, openness and reciprocity. Unfortunately thats not in the spirit of the UK. So UK, enjoy your isolation.
£ devalued at least 10%, therefore higher import costs Inc “food, clothes, shoes immediately “ course (ref Mr Hogg) now introduction of import duties further increasing prices (many of which were duty free as EU members introduction of export duties, making our exports less competitive, further damaging balance of payments, increased red tape due to export duties and procedures, large UK companies moving out of UK and relocating in Europe, now paying taxes and providing jobs in Europe, massive increase in customs staff costs and infrastructure, end of free movement for European travel. Our cup runneth over grrrrrrrrr.
Ha ha 😂, what Brexit. It's all gone from being a full EU member to a load of deals. That's not Brexit. Brexit would have been a complete clean break and then after some time they could have worked on deals that benefitted both sides.
I see no reason why the UK will not continue to decline. I'm sure the best graduates will still be welcome to work in the EU, and the rest of the world, whilst the number of oportunities in the UK decrease.
When the video gets confused over EC (European Commission, a governing body) and EEC (European Economic Community, the precursor of EU) you know the content is pretty low on information.
How big is the latest black hole in UK finances? 30 billion or so? It doesn't look as if anything is getting better. Ok inflation seems at a low right now, but it is certain to pick up in Autumn, but then it could be Labour's problem, right?
My small Dutch company has essentially given up on the UK market. We made it much harder for customers, and we are just finishing off our stock there. Its not worth the hassle. We'd rather find new customers in France, Italy, Poland, and other east european countries.
@@jonathansimmons5353 If Switzerland and Norway are anything to go by, this should greatly limit the range of choice to the consumers in the UK, with limited foreign brands staying on the market. Replacing imported products with domestic often means a drop in quality and a price hike. Its also very bad for UK exports, as many small business just do not wish to order from the UK anymore. It is easier for most EU companies to severe and replace their UK ties. It is harder for UK companies.
@@gulanhem9495 Ask a Northern Irishman or a Scotsman about how happy they are to be independent again! Also, as if the British public did not care about 10% of GDP and that it was all worth it.
May I just add that the difficulty we have exporting to the EU is experienced by every nation outside the EU. And, every industry within the EU is finding that it's harder to get the materials they need to grow their business. The result of this "fortress Europe" mentality is that growth across the Continent is stagnated. And if you check the adjusted figures for economic growth for mainland Europe, it's been flat for 30 years. So much so that in Spain and Italy, whole villages are literally abandoned. The failure of the EU to support growth had a dramatic effect on youth unemployment, and the rise of the far right in Spain France Austria Germany Greece Hungary Poland and even The Netherlands. I worked in the UK hospitality industry for decades, and it was my privilege to work with and employ some of the brightest, most motivated, skilled and hard working individuals you could ever hope to meet. The sort of people who would literally cross a Continent to find a job to maintain their self respect and make a life. And the sad part is, THEY HAD TO. Because there were no jobs in their own countries for these supremely talented people. I was employing University graduates, and specialists in multiple fields as bar staff, waiters, house keepers. People who by any measure really should have been high flyers. I look at Brexit as a sad necessity. I've studied Economics, and I'm well travelled. I'm NOT xenophobic, and I deplored the tactics and lies by the Vote Leave campaign. Because they weren't needed. There were many reasons, good reasons to leave, based not on hatred, but pity. Pity that Brussels' Gravy Train Politics is so out of step with the needs of the nations that look to it for guidance, and a plan to grow the market, NOT as is the case currently, to protect it to death. Until the EU fundamentally embraces change, cuts waste, and supports global interests, we are, I respectfully submit, better off out of it. Unfortunately, the team we entrusted with guiding us out of European Single Market, and into the global market were 4th rate twits, and I will forgive anyone who confuses their stupidity with an apparent error of judgement by the electorate.
So, Cameron had the referendum thinking it would go his way but it didnt. I can hear the voice of sir Humphrey: -A rule of politics is never put the future of your policies in the hands of the voters, especially if you rely on their implementation for a smoother term in office.
(10:20) Fact check: Pre-EU, the UK was part of the EEC, (European Economic Community) not the European Commission, which is the EU's politically independent executive arm. This video really sucks. 👎
"European Commission, which is the EU's politically independent executive arm". If you look at the commission's functions you learn that it is a kind of civil service with some executive functions. It proposes laws and regulations, it Implements decisions, it monitors compliance and it enforces compliance with EU rules.It represents the EU in the world at large. It does NOT decide. The decision are made by the elected representatives on The European Council ( The heads of state or government of the EU countries meet, as the European Council, to define the general political direction and priorities of the European Union. The European Council is chaired by a president who is elected for a 2.5-year term, renewable once. It does not adopt laws except for possible EU Treaty amendments), The Council of European Union ( Represents the governments of EU countries. The Council of the EU is where national ministers from each government meet to adopt laws and coordinate policies. Ministers meet in different configurations depending on the topic to be discussed. The Council of the EU takes decisions on European laws jointly with the European Parliament.) IMO most people in Britain have never understood the functions of the EU Commission , in particular and the functions and Institution of the EU as a whole. I live 17,000km away from Europe but I can use the search function on the internet . european-union.europa.eu/institutions-law-budget/institutions-and-bodies/types-institutions-and-bodies_en . The European Union’s institutional set-up is unique and its decision-making system is constantly evolving. The 7 European institutions, 7 EU bodies and over 30 decentralised agencies are spread across the EU. They work together to address the common interests of the EU and European people. The EU website tells you all you need to know how the EU functions, decides and governs itself. One can read up its treaties. By comparison Britain doesn't even have a written constitutions and neither are all its decision makers elected (HoL, head of state). As for democracy. The term Democracy is derived from the Greek demos kratia "'people rule". What actually exist is representative democracy , people elect their rulers. Those that rule the EU are elected, viz, The European Council, The Council of the European Union and the European Parliament.
Yes, the UK was far from being one of the first members (that would be the members of the European Coal and Steel Community, the birthplace of what's now the EU) and the EU isn't "punishing" the UK, merely applying the rules designed for "third party nations", rules the UK was at the forefront of designing when the common market was designed.
@@TonyZoster “By comparison Britain doesn't even have a written constitutions and neither are all its decision makers elected (HoL, head of state).” 1) Loads of EU countries have a constitutional monarch as head of state. It’s not just a UK thing. King Charles doesn’t make any executive decisions at all. 2) Ireland has an unelected Senate modelled on the old House of Lords, but they’re pro-EU so they don’t count in your calculation. There are plenty of “decision makers” in the EU, such as the members of the ECJ, which are not elected. Given their power, you could argue they should at least be subject to the same scrutiny as nominees to the US Supreme Court. 3) The UK has a written constitution. It’s just not all written in one place. In practice, rather than in theory, it’s very hard for the ordinary voters of the 27 to control the EU. People still act more like 27 unrelated electorates, rather than one. Moreover, for EU voters to control those in power, they really need to know 1) which specific individual is responsible for a policy they dislike, and 2) how can they cast their vote to remove that person from power. People have some sense of how to do this in their national polities, but not much sense of how to do it at the EU level. BTW if you think I’m wrong about this, please give me a counter example, where the EU enacted a policy, but the voters objected and used people power to force a 180º change of course.
Given that the 2016 referendum was a narrow 53/48 it boggles the mind that there wasn’t a second referendum after the leave agreement had been reached between the UK and the EU.
@@hey12542 Your Brexit is: business as usual, exploit the Single Market next door, keep all the advantages and pay nothing for it. This ship has sailed. You are a rule taker now. The EU is not a bloody colony of yours!
@JimTimber 😂 First step of acceptance would be Brexit actually happening though. Remainers couldn't cope with a real Brexit, that's why they bang on about how bad it's been in the hope England will rejoin. It's funny though cause all the friends I've asked have all said they would rather remain as it is 🤷🏻.
It was criminally negligent to have a referendum on leaving without the slightest hint of a plan for what to do if the referendum passed. They should have negotiated an exit procedure BEFORE the vote on exiting.
@@hey12542 any news on Qatargate, you know that commissioner & 3MEPs who got nailed for corruption. Seems to have gone a bit quiet that one like they want to sweep it under the rug.
No punishment involved. Leaving an organisation and being treated as if you are not a member of that organisation is not punishment. It’s what you voted for.
This script sounds like it was written by AI. I miss the old days of RUclips when content had a more personal touch and was less corporate and unsourced.
Fun thing is UK got a special status in the Eu. Didn't need to change its currency dindt need to sign shengen, exports more to the market (that is tax free) then it imports. If it wasn't ok with some policy (making new rules) it just have to say NO. Rejoining (I hope not) will be a huge shock. There will be no exceptions anymore.
"betreyal" label on the EU?? dafuq is that for a thumbnail? We never asked anyone to leave.. Youre free to go do whatever you want.. But dont point fingers plz. We didnt vote you out. you did
This was one of those decisions made based upon emotion, not reason. Now, with hindsight, the British people can see how wrong-headed it was. Maybe there should be a trade union with the U.K., U.S., Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. At least we all share a common language and similar cultures.
Because they’d made a life in Britain, married Britons, had British children. The biggest con in the referendum was the change shortly before it happened from allowing EU citizens (the ones most affected it) a vote to denying them one. "Democracy" my arse, they (like Gibraltar) would have voted 99% Remain, the result would have been to remain and we wouldn’t have had the years wasted arguing about what leaving meant.
Brexit has been a great benefit to the EU. All the leave groups in other EU member states suddenly looked at the UK post Brexit, and sat down and shut up. The damage to the UK is ongoing and growing. As for rules , if you are selling goods or services, you must abide by the rules of the buyer. They will go elsewhere if you are not willing.
I am an American. We pretty much ignored Brexit; we always respect the right of sovereign countries to do stupid things to themselves. We had a good laugh when the Tories expressed the thought that the U.S. would do them some special favors. The only thing Brexit did for us was get Britain out of the way of our doing more business with Germany, the real economic powerhouse.
There's no punishment of UK from EU. UK is just treated as every other non-EU country.
If you are used to EU privileges and you are losing them by leaving the EU, it may feel like punishment, but it's just the life outside the EU.
-- like 169 countries..
Utter balloney, but Brits couldnt give a toss either way. It isnt only the UK floundering economically , its the whole of the western world. Life outside the EU is great!!! No more listening to shitty overly ambitious Euro trash politcians trying to recreate the soviet union in Europe.
I agree
Being treated as an equal is what annoyed the UK in the EU in the first place.
@@Korschtal Thank you for your response. I knew my comments would get reactions from remoaners.
Being treated by the EU as a third country is the UK'S own choice not a punishment by the EU!
Before the "Windsor Framework" was negotiated, more customs checks were made on goods travelling internally within the UK, from Great Britain to Northern Ireland, than were undertaken on the rest of the EU imports.
Seems somewhat disproportionate.
Of course the EU wasn't being unnecessarily difficult.
@@sauermaischeyahoo7834The Windsor Framework is a symptom of Brexit so therefore Brexit is the problem. Unionists will deny that instead blaming The Windsor Framework for the Irish Sea Border.
It's not. People were manipulated into voting Leave. I bet that if they call for referendums across EU countries - most of them will leave !
When will the English find out that the right (the party of the rich) cannot govern.
@@RFE-jl6lo People have seen how poorly UK has been doing after Brexit and that's why it's really hard for me to believe that most countries would leave EU even if they called for referendums. Sorry about my broken English (I have a hangover xD )
So... the EU is punishing the UK, by giving it exactly what it asked for.
It couldn't be that the UK had four years to prepare for leaving, and made _no_ preparations.
Correct, no preparations. David Cameron spent public money on the Remain campaign and fully expected the Remainers to win the referendum. I expect he promised that outcome to the EU before they let him hold a referendum.
That is most likely why he fell on his sword the moment the result was clear. He had failed his masters. If he had been on the side of the people he would have prepared and he would have carried out the subsequent Brexit process.
There is no punishment. The UK voted on making 3rd countries disadvantaged when it was inside the EU, but it was strangely forgetful of this and clueless as to what was going to happen. Too many believed the lies that we would be given everything, as the Leave side promised. We need to re-join ASAP and the EU want us back in. There would be be no Schengen or Euro needed.
@@pastyman001 The EU is not about free trade it is about control. The UK would like the free trade aspect but not the control aspect.
The other issue is that free trade comes at the expense of being protectionist against everyone else. This is also not a great idea. We became unable to trade with the 160 or so and had to be confined to the other 27.
Maggie said in her Bruges speech that the control aspect and the trade aspect were actually independent ideas. The EU, however, use trade as the carrot while imposing more and more control as time passes.
@@pastyman001 Yep. But "ASAP" means "When the EU is convinced the UK won't just leave again with a change of government, plus 10 years negotiation and preparation".
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The only country in history that actually imposed tariffs against itself.
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@@jonsimmons4150More like in the favour of a few very wealthy tax avoiders to the detriment of the country as a whole !
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An error:
Boris Johnson was actually all in favour of remaining in the EU, until he realised he could get to power with the Leave campaign. He switched sides early on, to devastating effect.
He has become seen to be a major part, if not THE major part, of the demise of the British economy, stability and political discourse over the recent years.
It was the Sun that dun it. Years of relentless anti EU stories in all national papers, read by to many who believed that 'they wouldn't print it if it weren't true'. Boris just saw an opportunity to become PM. At the time. he was the worst PM we have ever had, of course every subsequent PM has beaten his record.
I'm fairly sure Boris is a populistic politician that would switch his views if it would gain him power but did he really wanted to remain? When he was a writer he was very Eurosceptic and wrote a lot of silly stuff about Europe and I just don't see him as someone who would like to remain in the EU unless it would benefit him in some way.
Don't forget Nigel Farage, that a** told a lot of lies in order to convince people to do the wrong thing.
Don’t forget Boris ran a mile when leave won. Not fit for office.
@@Silverflame1 All else being equal, Johnson would have preferred to remain in the EU. He's not as smart as he thinks but he's smarter than he sometimes seems and, as a senior politician, he had plenty of access to the numbers that indicated Brexit would hurt the UK badly. The numbers that the rabid press, Putin's stooges and the far right called project fear. When a reporter asked Rachel Johnson what the dinner table was like at Christmas she said it was split between those who thought Brexit was a bad idea and those who thought it was a terrible idea, this was about 2021. His anti-EU journalism was just careerism, shock horror, man bites dog type thing. It was easy for him to make shit up (straight bananas was one of his) so he didn't need to do any work. And he is notoriously lazy. Have a look at his face the morning after the referendum - he's in shock, he never thought he'd win. The campaign was just a step on the way to him becoming PM and a way to kick Cameron who he's been jealous of since school. It's pathetic and Johnson is a narcissist, maybe even sociopath so he only cares about his own ambition. If he thought he could be PM without Brexit, and it didn't require any extra work, he's have been an out and proud remainer. Anyone who believes Johnson believes in anything other than Johnson has not been paying attention.
The EU is NOT punishing the UK. We simply do not care about them.
And we simply don't care about the EU to be honest. To think I voted remain is scary. This dissolution some in the EU have that England is always going on about Brexit is laughable 😂. Every time I see something it's a EU citizen slagging England off.
And the feeling is mutual. Great eh?
@hey12542 Well, you won't like being slagged off by a Scotsman either. Brexit is less painful if you retired on a good pension and own your home outright. It might be great if you are extremely wealthy.
@@John-qd5ofWhy would I not like being slagged off by a Scotsman? I couldn't care less about Scotland, it's a different country. slag off who you want it's irrelevant to me 🤷🏻.
The EU has its own problem after the destruction of NORD2.
Brexiteers: "we don't want to be in the EU!"
Also brexiteers: "the EU is treating us as a non-EU country! That's unfair!"
Things we never said, never mind eh!
@@cyborgbadger1015 Things you perhaps never said, but I have read enough venomous comments by brexiteers who claimed the opposite. And seen interviews with UK citizens who claimed the EU was punishing them because they had to queue in the line that said "other countries" at European airports.
Brexit has been a very polarizing topic, both within the UK as between the UK and Europe. Anyway, the only good thing I see about Brexit is that since then populist and right wing political parties on the continent have stopped talking against the EU.
@@janentomenkafka Another bonus is that the UK can be excluded from all the supply chains, formerly the gate to europe for other continents, it being excluded every passing day more and more as there is no more single market.
In addition to that many of the companies have to move to the EU, in order to sell. It is a great win for the EU.
@@cyborgbadger1015 You said you did't want to be in the EU and now that you are not you expect the same advantages as you had when in the Union so yes you did say these things!.
@@cyborgbadger1015 A lot of brexiteers are whinging that the EU is "punishing" the UK, when the punishment is in reality just life outside the EU.
One thing needs correcting - the UK government did NOT apply the safeguards included in the EU directive on Free Movement designed to ensure citizens of other EU states would not become a burden on the UK. And that is something that Caneron kept coming up against when he did his round of EU capitals prior to the Referendum seeking a better deal for the UK. Why are you not applying the rules already in place he kept being asked - he had no answer!
It’s actually worse than that. The U.K. was - and still is - the only major European country that lacks any form of domestic residence control. Which means that anyone who enters the U.K. can effectively disappear. When we had FOM that meant that the U.K. government had almost no idea at all of how many EU citizens lived in the U.K., or where they were, or what they were doing. It is nowadays the case that the U.K. is a much easier place to be an illegal immigrant than nearly anywhere else - no residence control, no ID and a weakly regulated labour market . A law was actually passed in 2006 to introduce residence control but the Tories - you know, the people who claim to be tough on immigration - repealed it in 2010.
Sorry, should have made it clearer - that was WHY we couldn’t implement the directive on free movement, because we didn’t have the administrative means to do so. Because the law introducing them had been repealed by - the government of which Cameron was PM. It would be funny if it wasn’t tragic.
The British got what they wanted and what they voted for, they are out of the EU, they can negotiate their own treaties and agreements with around 194 countries and they can take care of the immigration issues related to these countries themselves. Of course they don't have preferential access to the EU internal market and they no longer have freedom of travel within the EU, but that's what they wanted. These are the benefits they wanted and got, but there is no punishment from the EU. You have voluntarily terminated your Clug membership and are now surprised that you can no longer use the benefits of club membership. Find the mistake
Not surpised at all, and very happy to be out of the basket case EU :)
@@rufanuf1extremely happy you are out. Stay out!!!
The mistake was in 1974
@@dalogan7290enjoy albania and north macedonia! They will easily make up the uk shortcomes. That's all there is now, tinpot eastern countries. 😅
@@dalogan7290 LOL you make it sounds as though "your wish is our command" LMAO. You couldnt get us back "in" even you returned all the billions stolen over 40 years🤣
*My Perspective on Brexit*
I used to buy most of my things from Amazon and eBay UK. However, after 2020, my orders started getting stuck in customs for weeks with heavy fees to pay. Consequently, I shifted my purchases to Amazon Germany. And that’s the end of the story.
hey had good photography gear int he UK. I used Ebay a lot with UK sellers, but not anymore.
I do the same from the uk.buy in uk.
did'nt happen lol
Hmm....we'll try to survive without you ...?
Its not a boicot britons its because the money!
I don't see a betrayal by the EU.
The EU betrays everybody. Ask Greece & Ireland.
Its policy
The EU betrayed Greece & Poland. Then betrayed the UK.
To the contrary I would say
@@renebosselaar2198 assholes arent they.
EU is a package deal, and single market is part of it. You can leave EU, but then you will leave the common market, as well. It's simple as that. EU isn't punishing UK, UK is punishing itself. But that's your right, of course.
We joined the Common Market not the corrupt EU that it spawned.
EU is anything that is agreed between itself and a European country. A country could join the EU single market without being an EU member subject to approval. During Brexit negotiations we saw that the EU was happy for the UK to remain in the EU single market so long as it adhered to the 'Level playing field'. If that had of come to fruition the UK would no longer of been an EU member country but would have been a EU single market associate. It's also a real possibility this could be something that happens in future. EFTA countries like Norway and Switzerland aren't in the EU but are granted EU single market access due to the EFTA's connection to the EU.
@Patrickuotinen
Be a little fair. First the UK and then the USA were under a long Russian and maybe campaign of propaganda. That is why a lot of the slogans between Brexit and Maga are the same. Russia has been trying to break up NATO and they found the easiest way is to convince the dumb people who never both to vote, to commit a patriotic suicide. Destroy the country you love by being so stupid that you vote when you shouldn't.
We see how much the Russian army sucks. Their keyboard warriors have done more damage than the entire Russian military could do in 10 years... especially when the military actions actually strengthen NATO.
WE just have to be glad that Putin is so old. IF he was younger he might have been patient enough to wait until Brexit and Maga did more damage to NATO and the EU.
P.S.
For those who are slow. You damage Nato with Brexit by ruining the British economy, increasing xenophobia, and deprioritizing the military, so they would ignore calls for aid from countries like the Baltics.
@@hey12542 Norway and Iceland as part of the European Economic Area (EEA) are obligated to follow the same rules as the EU countries. They are only excepted from the common fishing policy, and they don't have much say to the rules. So they actually are following the rules made in Brussels, but they don't participate to the decision making, they just confirm the rules made by EU and include them to their legislation.
But if that's the kind of agreemente UK really wants, I'm pretty sure it could be arranged that the UK could join EEA, but it would be essentially the same situation as if the UK would have remained in the EU, but exchanged its vote in all the matters to the right of decide about its own fishing policy only.
As for the Switzerland, it sort of negotiates another deal every time some new rule is accepted in Brussels, so that would kind of respond to the situation, where you would having the Brexit negotiations infinitely.
It is true that the EU could accept any deal it (or rather all of its member countries) wanted. The thing is that it is rather arrogant to think, that the UK could dictate any kind of deal with the EU that the UK wanted. By promising such thing to the voters the Brexiteer were lying. EU doesn't have any obligation or reason to give any third country a special status.
Incredible how Britain shot itself in both feet by leaving the EU. Lying politicians as always, fooled the population. And now it's much worse.
The EU isn't punishing the UK. When EU citzens decide what goods or services to spend money on, cost and quality are still what they think of first. There is no 'secret' mechanism whereby the European Commission is delibrately stopping purchases of UK goods and services.
So, who is stopping the rest of the UK exporting goods to Northern Ireland? Why is the EU border within the UK?
"We just turned our back on a huge market , why aren't we richer?"
- British idiocy
The world is changing. BRICS is the new kid on the block. Europe and the USA are no longer the centre of global business that they once were.
The UK can now trade with over 160 countries including the most populous ones rather than just 27 .
"The Commission has spent 45 minutes debating whether we ought to regulate the length of candle-wicks, and decided that we cannot decide."
- EU bureaucracy
@@headshot6959yeah I read about that in the daily Mail/express, telegraph and the sun.
@@Cheung23s I watched it live. Also - "shall we regulate the bend in bananas?" And "it's time to elect a new President - you have one candidate to vote for and it'll be a secret ballot."
There is no defending that sort of nonsense.
no. poorer.
thats a easy fix.
common sense.
The point of Brexit was deregulating the financial sector.
Despite the government's assertions of wanting to improve economic competitiveness through Brexit, their real aim was to enhance competitiveness and regulatory efficiency in the financial sector.
They chose to ignore the fact that post-Brexit deregulation in the financial sector, alongside a fragile economy lacking decades of public investment, would lead to the disastrous consequences Brexit Britain is facing right now.
I recall David Cameron actively supporting to stay in the EU not hoping to leave to benefit the financial sector
Brexit was to allow bankers to make more money and bugger the consequences for the ordinary Joe.
@@ianjones487Yes but he also offered the referendum believing that the country would vote majority remain 🤦🏻, that went a bit pear shaped on him.
Something a typical plastic paddy would say.
@@hey12542 there were hundreds of reasons people wanted to leave & same for remaining. But we had two choices, in or out. My reason to leave were like the result. 52% out 48% to stay in. After the 8 years & if it did come to the chance to re apply for membership (we can’t rejoin). I’m out. I don’t want to go down the path of joining an EU federal state. That is the path it’s going down. As Michael Caine said before the referendum. He’d rather be a poor master than a rich slave.
And many European emigrants were qualified in various jobs and did not ask for support from the government.
Many were unskilled and arrived with nothing and the tax payer was keeping them. That's a fact. Also in London there were Polish companies advertising jobs for Polish applicants only in labouring 😂. This disadvantaged the British jobseeker and tensions rose. The government at that time had to tell employers that they couldn't discriminate against eligible British or EU or work visa holder applicants. You can see how the bubbles for Brexit brewed and how it was easy for certain politicians to gain easy support. I don't think Brexit was the answer to the situation but we are where we are and it is what it is. The EU should have told England what it really thought of it while it was in the EU but we only heard how awful we were as a nation after England left. I didn't vote for Brexit but I wouldn't want to go back into the EU again either.
Yes but the UKs immigration problems started when we adopted EU Human Rights laws. Hopefully we can slowly unwind those in the coming years, although really its too late. Brexit was some 40 years too late. The UK allowed themselves to be sucked into a non democratic union.
@@hey12542you still think anyone in EU cares. English exeptionalism. EU don't care. US dont care. China don't care. Uk is not important enough.
plenty did though because I saw them.
@@rufanuf1 It is more democratic than the uk. It has proportional representation for example
I'm from the US and I can certainly state that it is possible for people to emotionally vote against their own best interests. Particularly when those interests are exploited by the political class. Basically lies. What you going to do now?
It was not 52% voting to leave and 48% voting to remain. Leave 17million, remain 16 million but 13 million did not bother to vote and 18 million of those entitled to vote were not even on the electoral register! Voter apathy is the big issue.
Don't vote and you don't count. The majority prevailed; get used to it.
Biggest turnout ever. What you mean to say is you didn't like the result.
2016:
UK: When we leave, we'll have all the benefits of staying, because the EU needs us more than we need them!
EU: No, you'll become a 3rd country.
US: End of the queue.
UK: We'll see about that! Rule, Britannia!
2021:
UK: OK, we might not have all the benefits, in fact, we'll have none. But no matter, we'll trade all over the world, that'll compensate for it.
NZ: Can't wait, ha ha! :-)
2024:
UK: Where's my unicorn? Why are you so meeeeeean?!
Mmm bit early to be talking about Brexit outcomes. 40 years to ket the EU get us into the mess, could be that long getting back out of it, but hey ho. Thats the British spirit. We all make mistakes. Thatcher was always right. I grew listening to her politics, and she got most things right, maybe with the exception of privatising national utilities.
@@rufanuf1 And the Mad Cow Disease (BSE) because of deregulation. Madness.
@@louis-philippearnhem6959 Thank you for your response. I knew my comments would get reactions from remoaners.
@@rufanuf1 Oh, right, I forgot JRM’s prediction of getting the benefits after 50 years… Sure; after all, economical prognoses for decades ahead never fail, eh?
@@louis-philippearnhem6959 How ‘bout the Poll Tax? I thought that was rather a bummer for the whole party…
It won't implode but it's making a lot of things unnecessarily difficult and people are missing lots of opportunities. Farage and his mob have a lot to answer for and no politician has the spine to address the situation.
Brexit is the best thing that could have happened to the EU. I hope the UK never comes back.
We don’t want to 😂
@sambaliwingodon’t worry. We’re just gonna sit back & watch you sort out Russia, who have just moved the EU’s Estonia boarder. If you ring the Uk there will be no one answering.
@Optimistic-101
NATO member.
@@fcassmann get it right. A payed up NATO member
@@Optimistic-101
Still a NATO member.
Wish Brexitannia leave the NATO.the Submarine bases are all in Scotland.They are welcome in the EU family.
Little England is not.
🇪🇺🇳🇱
The one thing the EU is certainly not doing is punishing the Uk for leaving. What the Uk is currently experiencing is the start and only the start of the consequences of leaving the EU. The negotiations such as they were as far as the Tory party was concerned were not meant to give the Uk special status, it threw that privilege away when it chose to leave, They were to smooth that leaving sufficiently to prevent economic shock that could have driven an already shakey economy over the edge because the government was fully aware of the consequences of leaving the EU in terms of restricted trade and travel. The problem was they had not told the people about this or the extent of the loss they would incur. They kept very quiet about it all choosing instead to spoon-feed it in small palatable portions and with each new traunch of restrictions infer that this was not the fault of the government but of the EU and yet all of it was clearly written down in the form of rules and regulations about the operation of the Single Market and the Customs Union. Rules and regulations the Uk had once had a larger part in defining and had happily enjoyed the protections of for years. Rules and Regulations they had now chosen to have used against them.
Those that wanted Brexit lied and deceived the people of the Uk by first not educating them about the EU making it easy for them to gaslight the population into walking out of the Union. Second, they could have explained to the people exactly what leaving actually meant to them personally. They did not, worse still they tried to build a smokescreen to prevent them seeing it at all and finally they used their own democratic system against the people by claiming that Brexit gave them a mandate to leave when it did no such thing. The Brexit vote was nothing more than an opinion poll, it placed no charge on the government to act at all. The mandate only became apparent when the Tory party won the next election on that ticket after months of bombarding the people with the message that leave meant leave and then using every political trick in the playbook to prevented any form of meaningful debate on the matter and having a weak opposition led by people who covertly wanted the Uk to leave the EU it became a done deal even before the due date.
Can the Uk ever rejoin the EU, Possibly in years to come that might be possible but for the foreseeable future with no political or public consensus on the matter the answer must remain no, the Uk can not rejoin the EU, it can negotiate for better access possibly under EFTA but it will then come under the scrutiny of the rules of the Single Market regarding an area of legislation the government and its financial backers would much rather the public never be allowed to understand, it is a subject a lot are aware of buy no one dares mention it for the ridicule and scorn that they are subjected to in the Tory client media for doing so but if we are to make any progress on this matter the Uk is going to be subjected to those rules and regulations and it is going to have to comply or pay the price in hard cash. If you know then you know of what it is I speak and you also know that it was the reason behind Brexit in the first place.
TL;DR
By holding a referendum, Cameron threw the entire country under the bus to try to solve an internal battle in the Conservative party over our membership of the EU. He gambled. The country lost.
I'd blame the electorate first.
@@agoogleuser4423 Aww, still crying?
@@John-pr2gw no, I'm still European and living in the EU. I don't miss the UK particularly. We too are cutting off with you.
@@agoogleuser4423 This reminds me of the old newspaper headline: "Fog in Channel - Europe Isolated"
@@agoogleuser4423 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No, the UK was not one of the first ones to enter the coalition (EU). It reluctantly joined the EEC because the trade alliance it created with Sweden, Denmark was not fulfilling expectations. The UK was ALWAYS half in half out.
As far back as the premiership of Harold Macmillan the British government had been seeking to join the EEC. This made economic sense as we had lost the resources of the Empire after WW2.
We joined under Edward Heath in 1973. At the time, ideological opposition to EEC membership was driven by many in the Labour Party. However, the 1975 referendum confirmed the nation's enthusiasm for membership with over 67% of people voting to stay in the EEC.
Our economy grew massively during our membership, plus we also had concessions on the Euro and Schengen. It has only been in the last 20 years that Eurosceptics have sought to blame, and scapegoat, the failure of domestic policy on the EU.
Our membership was a positive move, only made negative by a hostile xenophobic and disingenuous press. There was no clamouring to leave by the ordinary populace. The referendum in 2016 was designed to quell infighting in the Tory Party. It backfired, hence the current disaster.
@@user-cu5nw7kq5b 80% of australian cars were British before 1974.. after near zero.
we never had a referendum on the treaty of maastrict - that's when free movement came into play.
and/ its in 1st gear atm, UK only just left the starting blocks,
never fear europhiles- Albania and north Macedonia are EU inbound, with their burgeoning economies, and financial and trade center clout..
@@user-cu5nw7kq5b and then along came the Maastricht and Lisbon treaties which fundamentally changed the entity from a trading bloc to a political superstate.
@@user-cu5nw7kq5b Nothing to do with what the electorate thought about the EU then, you blame the Tories a very lame excuse for the flawed EU.
@@jonsimmons4150Who gives a damn about cars in Australia? The British car industry still produces the same amount of cars it did in the 70s.
The EU is not punishing the UK it is dealing with it the very same as every other third country, but been british they have to blame the EU for their own failures. The uk was not one of the first EEC countries
Yes and vice versa that's why EU citizens can no longer live in England. Doesn't stop them continuing to try though.
@hey12542 the "EU citizens" do not exist. The citizens of EU countries can live in the UK, as long as they apply for a visa. Likewise the British can live in European Union countries, as long as they apply for visas.
EU countries citizens choose not to live in the UK, now is the turn of the former British colonies to repopulate Britain... For those who voted brexit because of immigration... It must to hurt
@@pedrolopes3542 Yet it seems to be remoaners moaning about it? Just goes to show how politically confused a lot of people are. They confuse mass immigration as race. Mass immigration of non caucasions not just into the UK but Europe as a whole, has been solely down to EU legislation and political/economical stupid thinking. yes its destroyed the UK, why do you think so many wanted to get out of the EU? What else do they have in store for their members?
Didnt the ICC (a European Court ran by stupid EU supporting woke European judges) just compare the leader of Hamas to the politcially elected leader of a country???? This is just the kind of shitshow being ran in the EU those who can remember the days of politcial decency are trying to escape from.
@@hey12542I live in Spain and I am a Spaniard. I see many inmigrants (they call themselves expats) from UK complaining about the stay limit of 180 days. Many voted Brexit having retired and owning a house here (?). Now they are in trouble. Many did not bother to learn Spanish either. They thought rules would not apply to them? I think Brexit and its consequences were not well explained; it is not only about jobs, what about the 300k retired British living in Spain? Now, we can also talk about a similar number of Spaniards working in UK. At the end I guess it will be both more difficult to British to retire in Spain and for Spaniards to work in UK, but not many people talk about Brexit here, is not a concern. Indeed, other type of ilegal inmigration is a concern, the same in UK and in the EU.
@@pedrolopes3542I can't possibly think why you think it must hurt 😂, England voted Brexit so why would it hurt? I am fully aware of how EU citizens may be able to live in England and I used EU citizens as an umbrella term for citizens of EU countries. You need that notion in your mind that the UK is hurting to keep you happy 😂, it's pathetic.
Lets all laugh at the leavers. It was obvious to most of us outside of the UK what would happen, after they left!
ruclips.net/video/AoNbBLIFwVw/видео.html
It was obvious to a hell of a lot of UK citizens too. But the propaganda and lies won the day.
As well as inside!
I don't think there is much to laugh. Not inside the UK, for obvious reasons, but also outside as without the UK the EU is definitely weaker.
Brexit was a great economic success. For Frankfurt as the new financial center of Europe.
Im a norwegian strongly opposed to EU membership, and even I can se how deeply dumb and unresponsivle brexit was...
the fact that still norway has to follow several EU rules lmfao just join
@andersbjrnsen7203
Strange to say. You guys are in the market bound by Eu rules and you don't join because of fishery rights and mabey oil. (Don't know of this one)
@@dontobillo its getting gradually harder to see the big difference in membership or not..
Norway is pretty much EU colony lol, has to follow EU laws, pay EU taxes but has no vote and is partially restricted in free trade while trade going from EU to Norway is completely unrestricted.... Like for real, I see no benefit for Norway staying out hahahah They just can't finally admit that.
Is smart to keep a distance and just flirting with the EU, if you’re too close, they will aim for your oil, fish and other resources. Norwegian is taking a very smart approach on this.
If you leave the prestigious golf club and stop paying the membership fee, why do you expect the club to let you play for free or even bother to spend any time punishing or even thinking of you when lots of other wants to be new members?
"Prestigious" 🤣
Who said we do? Only remainers who can't stop talking about it 😂.
@@hey12542 you won. Get over it.
Who cares, you got albania and north macedonia to prop up now.
That's ' prestigeous' members 🖕🏻😂
Wait until anti EU parties win a majority in the farce that is the
European parliament !! We MIGHT
consider rejoining when the EU
becomes democratic..
Until then.....auf wiedersehen !! 😂
The European Union was called European Economic Community. The UK joined in 1973, the community was created in 1957.
The UK did the EU a HUGE favor by leaving as they have become a lesson on what happens to your economy when you do. Recall at the same time the UK was talking about leaving, Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain were also talking openly about it? You dont hear them mention it much anymore do you? Funny that.
Portugal has never openly or otherwise spoken about exiting, neither has Spain.
Err....you do actually, many in France and Germany are fed up with the unelected blob also... especially now they have/are taking away Nation states right to veto laws they don't agree with. So the unelected are overriding the democratic elected Parliamentarians... Taking away Citizens voices. Not Democracy
The only people "talking openly" about leaving the EU in Portugal, Italy, Greece or Spain were the Neil Farage wannabes.
EU/Brexit is simple to explain, if you know the history. 1) EEC (pre-EU) was formed to stop the centuries of fighting between France/Germany by joining their fates financially 2) gear 1 was a Free Trade Area, where EEC members agreed to not levy tariffs on each others products 3) gear 2 was a Customs Union, meaning that goods could enter the free trade area from any of the memeber states 4) gear 3 was EU, where non-tariff barriers (regulations and standards controls) were removed by harmonizing them between member states. 5) UK was allowed to join after lots of resistance from esp. France, because they knew UK would benefit greatly 6) UK joined and financially benefitted hugely from EU membership as well as getting special perks 7) Hubris and greed ("we are doing great because WE are so great, not because we are part of one of the largest trading blocks in the world") took over in Britain and decades of blaming the EU for underinvestment in UK society (a choice that the UK did to themselves, see Piketty) finally boiled over in the EU referendum. As a result, the UK trade gear vs. EU area dropped from 3 to less than 1. Customs, tariffs, food health checks ... everything is re-instated as it was before EEC. Its basic math: if goods are checked and customs paid at border, speed of commerce drops 10x. You can disagree on politics, but border checks are like gravity, it'll eventually pull you to earth no matter how you pretend to be flying while falling. ( Editors note, before you go down a loonybin path as per response below : Europäische Wirtschaftsgemeinschaft 1957, check wikipedia)
I'm afraid you are wrong !
The European Economic Community was actualy a 1930s N4zi plan for a pan European dictatorship. They called it the Eurospaisch Wirtschafts Gemeinschaft which is exactly the same as the later English translation. Many of its objectives, including an end to European wars are contained in the booklet they produced after their 1941 Berlin conference. Though copies are now rare, one is available in the British library if anyone would like to read it. So far it's all going just as they planned it .
@@johnbrereton5229 Please lay off the weed! Please.
@@inwalters
What I have said is all easily proved historical facts. But if you choose to deny them, perhaps it's you who has smoked weed. While I have a very clear head because I have never smoked even cigarettes, let alone weed.
Sorry but no
@@johnbrereton5229 And never masturbated, no doubt.
Boris Johnson thought Britain could just pull out the channel tunnel and swim away. Turns out being part of Europe without being part of the EU (or at least close enough to have free trade and immigration) is a lot like being far away from Europe, without being close to other countries in return.
The pandemic has ended, but Britain is still self-isolating.
Never did the UK fully follow the rules of The Eu when they were members of the EU, but now that the UK is not a member of the EU it must follow the rules of the Eu and also the rules that say that each country of the EU is an individual country to import to for non-members. Is it a way to punish those how leave? No, but those how ask for the butter and to bed the wife of the merchant also.
The only problem with Brexit was us Brit's trusted our spineless politicians to deliver the Brexit we voted for unfortunately this didn't happen and they bungled what should have been a relatively straightforward process, we underestimated the level of corruption in our own government!
Brexit was the first time in history when two countries or entities decided to sit down to make the prevailing trading situation worse after those discussions , best of luck to the UK in their journey wherever it takes them they cant blame anyone now hope they never re-join the EU is better off without UK .
How could Britain think that it could make better deals with EU members from outside the circle than inside it?
If you leap off a cliff while claiming the rocks below don't exist, it isn't a punishment from the clifftop for leaving when you splat like a ripe tomato.
I have been watching the Brexit news since early 2019. It was all just so surreal.
I would expect a former Empire to have a measure of awareness of international politics, but reality disabused me of that notion.
Righty O
Britain’s idea of international politics is them telling everyone else what to do.
How is Nigel Farage still on TV is beyond me
If the people who voted Brexit vote for him in the coming election, he will soon be in power and we can finally get Brexit started.
I never thought Great Britain would become as economically as miserable as Argentina
EC is not European Commission, but European Communities... The European Commission is the executive branch of the EU
Brexit was not the largest voter turnout in the UK, it only got 72% turnout, 75% is normally recognized as a minimum threshold for a referendum to have validity. This was one of dozens of lies parroted by Leave supporters after the referendum.
75%? Tell that to Scotland. 😝
@@aleph8888 The UK doesn't really "do" democracy.... Anyone that wants to understand how referendums work should look to the Swiss. Min 75% turnout and 66% support plus a 2nd referendum to confirm the first. The 2016 referendum was an advisory poll, nothing more. British people are some of the most gullible punters on the planet.
Face it, the vote was to leave. There is no minimum threshold for voting in the UK, otherwise most general elections would not be recognised.
@@dub604 Oh so the Swiss (not members of the EU) are your yardstick.
@@jcoker423 Yes, why wouldn't I? They use referendums to decide what to have for breakfast in the morning. Unlike the UK they at least attempt to be democratic.
Making it over 50% vote on such an important thing should of been 60% at leased
Seems fair. If 60 % had voted to remain we shouldn't have left
The UK was so poor in the seventies. I hope you’re all happy with the result.
On that last comment. There is no punishment going on. Some in the UK dreamed of being able to get a deal with all the good stuff without any obligations.
Such a deal would be suisid for the union. Of course you have to give it you want to get. It was just dreams, overconfidence and lies.
No, we wanted to leave. Get over it.
totally sad for the british people!
imagine voting representatives into office & then being forced to make an uneducated vote about the future of your country.....ofc it cant go well! what are these "politicians" even for, if not to make educated decisions for the future of the country?!
cant say we germans miss britain, but its still sad, to see a country mess up this bad & leave the most united europe in history, just to fail THIS HARD!
I don't think it will implode. It would probably just slowly follow the history of Portugal and be a poor European country.
You are likely to be right. It's the most realistic scenario
The IMF have just announced they expect the UK to have faster growth than Germany France and Spain over the next 6 years. We have been stitched up by our own leaders but the UK will be a leader in Europe none the less.
England is doomed. It’s already being surpassed by Poland.
hmm 2nd biggest economy in europe, 6th in the world.. suddenly becomes ike 15th in the world?
imagine what it will be for the other countries in europe then?
spain somalia, portugal south soudan.. france will be like .. poorer than portugal..
@@jonsimmons4150 The British arrogance will always amaze me.
Give northern ireland back to the Irish.
come and take it..
@@jonsimmons4150The Irish Army has had plenty of experience in Lebanon. I'm sure they'll be glad to meet the kneecappers and the like.
The logic though 🤷🏻. How can England give something back that hasn't been taken against its will? The GFA says NI can unite with the Republic by having a referendum and returning a yes vote. England isn't holding NI against its will. It is up to the people of NI and the Republic if they choose to unite. People keep making this same comment about giving NI back 😂, NI will do what it wants on its own terms how it should be. If it unites with the Republic I'm sure it will all be done amicably and that will be it.
FFS, no one in Great Britain wants it. It’s only still part of the UK because of the loony Umionist population want to be and feel extremely strongly about it. I’ve never been anywhere with kerb sides posted red white and blue and Union flags strewn across the streets.
There. Is no northern Ireland it's one Ireland
Treated as a third country, not punished. The UK is not trading with the EU but individual countries with their own trading rules. Some similar some not.
The UK messed its own bed and brexshiteers need to admit they got it wrong as a first step to recovery.
Oh gosh 😂😂😂. Who's even complaining though? There is a TCA which deals with all the trade aspects of the UK and EU. Move on, it ain't that deep.
We got it right! And many Brits are so glad we escaped. Economically "beneficial" or not.
@@rufanuf1 Bollocks! Brexshit was sold on nothing but lies and incompetence. Austerity was a factor too. Many used their vote as a swipe at Cameron.
How many leave campaigners did we view saying that it would be mad to leave the Single Market and the Custom Union?
How many said everything will be cheaper and Britain will have countries clamoring for trade deals?
It was a con job which made most poorer and no one voted for that but the grifters.
@hughmckendrick3018 Hey Hugh. You make such an important and significant point, thank you, yet which gets little or no mention it seems by virtually anyone. Once Britain was out of the EU, then EU should have then had as much irrelevance to the UK as the UK has become to the EU. And I dare say that many Brexiteers might not disagree, except of course it was never going to work out that way.
So all this nonsense of trying to blame the EU, and “the EU is trying to punish us!” For what?! Absolute piffle and total bollocks!
Have a look at the BBC report ‘How does the UK compare with other economies?’ Doesn’t look like a mess
Smart people just like stupid people have stupid ideas all the time. Brexit was a stupid idea. Having a 'hard Brexit' made it even worse. Trade is the lifeblood of nations. The EU always puts international trade first, internally by abolishing trade barriers and having the same standards, and externally by having long standing beneficial trade agreements with as many markets as possible. The UK is simply lacking the knowhow to do regulations and trade agreements on their own, and lacks the international weight that the EU trade block provided. 'But, now we don't have to obey EU regulations anymore' you say? Well, next to those regulations being sensible and beneficial for quality, health and safety, many countries already follow the EU regulations when exporting, and GB has to follow them when exporting to the EU. But, but the Commonwealth? The EU has the most free trade agreements in human history, the part of the Commonwealth that don't have trade agreements with the EU will not make up the difference.
Self supporting delusion?
@@rufanuf1 Well, the problem is that international trade is too complex for most people to get. But the conmen and deluded ethnonationalists that spearheaded Brexit simply abused the trust of normal people.
"...many countries already follow the EU regulations when exporting," Indeed this is called the Brussels Effect. The EU's tough safety standards can become the standard around the world, even though they're not actual laws outside the EU. That's the Brussels effect! It's like the EU's rules rippling outward.
@@louis-philippearnhem6959 It´s actually more expensive and time consuming to try to push your own more loose regulations than to just abide by these high standards. This counts extra for countries that border the EU. Eu euh, I mean, bendy banana lie hur hur!
@@robbuelens It wasnt a lie. And it applies to cucumbers as well.
You say 'in hindsight' leaving the single market would have a negative impact on the economy, but it wasn't hindsight. It was predicted by the remain campaign, and dismissed by the leavers as 'project fear'.
So why is the UK the fourth largest exporter in the world? Was that part of the prediction?
Exactly. Well before referendum Internet was full of people telling Brits what will happen after they leave. Clearly, explicitly and repeatedly. Didn't work, so now they reap what they sown.
@@FrikInCasualMode Yes I remember the scare stories about food etc from the remoaners the govt even got sucked in with the BS,building & updating extra ports for the shipping issues, that never happened.
Leavers care about their country, their children and grandchildren;
remoaners only for “the economy” i.e. themselves.
Such grotesquely selfish people?
Only one known economist supported brexit and he said it would destroy British manufacturing and food production. The consensus was widely known and completely against brexit. There was no hindsight involved.
The EU is NOT punishing the UK. The EU always respected the decision, no matter how stupid it was. The EU always worked hard to make the divorce possible, no matter how painful. The EU now says, we always work with UK as they are old friends.
Can you tell us why the wish to have self-determinination was stupid? I'll wait..
@@cyborgbadger1015 Because you cannot eat it. Why is it so hard to understand?
It is like a religion, you want to believe, fine, but don't tell everybody, that they will go to hell if they don't, that's BS and you know it!
I totally agree. Brexit has never been about economy. It was about protection of the 50 trillion trust fund business and the personal needs of a handful elites: Arron Banks, BoJo, JRM, and not much else.
I dont think the EU is punishing the UK. This is just the predictable logical consequences.
There were 759 different agreements signed by the EU on behalf of the member states with 168 countries. 295 concerned trade, 69 fisheries, 65 transport, 49 customs and 45 nuclear issues.
UK did not join any "free trade area" when leaving EU. It would have to renegotiate all its tradeagreements with the rest of the world. With EU it got the TCA wich is not workin very well since it excludes services. Since first of January 2024 a transition operiod ended and UK has no longer passporting rights of financial services into EU. In 2025 EU will have moved out all the Eurodenominated clearing bussines to othe financial centers.
The current trade agreements UK has are 68 rollovers of EU agreements that have to be renegotiated in the future and three agreements with Japan, Australia and new Zealand and they were all worse than what UK had as a member. All the quotas UK had as an EU member, for dairyproducts for example, were gone. They stayed in EU and were split up between memberstates. That is why Japan did not want to expand its quota for cheese and neither did Canada.
Facts.
Nice protectionist mafia racket they have there.
The EU did not punish the UK. The Brits punished themselves, becoming the first country ever to impose economic sanctions against itself. That's why the now universally accepted logo for Brexit is a man pointing a gun at his foot.
It was worth it.
@@rufanuf1 Getting poorer, less free and becoming the world's laughingstock was worth it?
@@michaeldavid2553 Thank you for your response. I knew my comments would get reactions from remoaners.
Ha ha ha!😂 I am smiling, but it is sad news. Farage of course, has access to the EU whatever happens.
@rufanuf1 As I said, if you are a retired homeowner and on a good pension, Brexit was okay. If you are very wealthy, and your funds have performed well, then Brexit is good.
So you think U.K can leave E.U while keeping benefits it had while being part of E.U? That funny . No
Not sure what benefits it's asking to keep? There's a TCA that deals with all issues EU-UK related. No one is asking to keep anything.
The real twisted thing was that Britain was openly encouraging other countries to leave the EU.
Britain has a chronic negative balance of payments, i.e. it imports more than it exports. BoE numbers used: Compared to the average rates for 2015 GBP is down 15% versus EUR, down 17% versus USD and EUR is only down 3% versus USD. Therfore , regarding a lot of its imports the UK is in a higher cost situatio than pre Brexit. Apart from the evident slowdown in physical trade the migration from the CIty of euro based transactions like clearing and derivatives has hardly begun. Brexit isn't a guillotine. It's slow death by a thousand cuts..
As Britain is too populous and will very probably remain so, Britain will depend on imports indefinitely.
Britain cannot produce enough food to sustain itself; that is the biggest problem. Second, British food standards differ from the EU standards, which is impractical an drives up costs.
And there is the reason for a significant part of the imbalance of payments.
@@AdLockhorst-bf8pz Unfortunately, I know from personal experience how food insufficient the UK was and is. I was born there in 1942 and as a youngster thought that eggs were a yellow powder that came in cardboard boxes from the US. hHe boxes were great because they were purposely made to be cut up to make brightly coloured toys for kids. Anyway, things worked OK in the 19th century for the UK when its Empire and other countries could supply it with food and it, as "the workshop of the world" could supply them with what their indusrries, if they even had any, were onot able to produce, Unfortunately. Britain's upper class and ruling elite has always held even trade, much less industry, in disdain. They never fully grasped that "where there's muck there's brass" is what really kept their countrey alive. So, they sold their industries to foreigners and put al their "real" eggs into the financial services basket. Unfortunately, much of that wull move from the City. Platforms are coming on line in EU financial centres to deal with the high volume euro clearing and other euro based financial transactions.
@@maxharbig1167 a magical castle floating in the sky, untethered from the earth; the financial industry in a nutshell. Stock trading was invented in Amsterdam, the Netherlands in a coffee house and while that is okay, things like derivatives - and rather more recently cryptocurrency - lost the connection... all only worth anything because people *believe* it's worth something.
Cloud Cuckoo land 🤷 how many politicians make big billion pound decisions without ever thinking "wait ... the average Brit gets paid 💷 a month so this plan means ❌ people for ❌ months ... *that's ❌ LIFETIMES!* 😳"
Finance and politics just has NO sense of the human scale anymore. It's all just numbers, abstract. 😰
@@AdLockhorst-bf8pz "Britain cannot produce enough food to sustain itself; that is the biggest problem"
Utter baloney. Of course it can. The fact it doesnt is a legacy of being in the EU with its stupid agricultural policy that stripped the UKs agricutlural sector bare. If the Netherlands can feed its self 10 times over, sure the UK can do the same, and in time it will. It annoys me that we never hear about this kind of initiative from our politicians. A massive push in food self reliance would be great for the economy and the nations general well being.
@@rufanuf1 If it is possible for Britain to be food sufficient why couldn't it produce enough food in WW2, when there was even the Land Army and women were drafted, under the Manpower Act, to become Land Girls? Is there enough arable land and a suitable enough climate in the UK to feed a population of 65 million?
The preparation of the UK citizens to leave already happened earlier in this century. For years leading up to the referendum UK politicians blamed the EU for everything that wasn't popular with the public, and everything that was popular was of their making. I wasn't surprised the people voted to leave, as they were groomed to think negative about the EU. Credit where credit is due.
Well we will get over it, & the MP's can blame one another instead, & the MEP's will blame the UK & NI.
The EU is such a powerful economy that however hard a Brexit the UK got they were always going to be in the position the Brexitists thought they were in. I.e. having to pay into the EU and obey EU rules but with no say. Prior to leaving the UK had a great deal of power over the rules and most were introduced to fulfil the ambitions of the single market that was designed by the UK in the first place.
One of my EU citizen friends is a doctor, who misses the days when they could cross the channel to work a weekend in a UK hospital for a truly exorbitant pay cheque. The casual weekend shifts they were doing aren't being given to a UK resident now, because the UK doesn't have enough doctors. Those shifts are simply not being covered, so the quality of health care in the UK has dropped.
Those shifts won't be covered until the UK either trains more of its own citizens to be doctors, or starts letting non-UK residents enter the country at will to do highly paid professional work again. Does anyone see the UK training a whole lot more doctors?
Same thing with the lorry drivers,all sorted now though,although the junior doctors want more money,I suggest they go & live in the EU for less money as you state.
I really hope they stay out of the EU for good, the UK arrogance is unbearable.
I was born in England, left in 1972 and did not regret it. The average
UK citizen does not know much about the EU, they get their information
from gutter press and corrupt self serving politicians. The country was
having problems long before they got the Brexit idea. Blaming the EU for
something that they caused is preposterous.
Don't worry! 40 years at least..
Btw, albania and north macedonia are inbound..
Enjoy!
They will take up the slack.
@@jonathansimmons5353democratic vote for halfwits
I've met Brits that voted leave, consented that the situation of the UK is much worse but: THEY STIL ARE CONVINCED THAT "IF BORIS DID GET HIS WAY, THE UK WOULD BE THE MOST WEALTHIEST NATION IN THE WORLD" They probably voted Nigel Farage last week. Some people never learn.
I dont hear them bragging now 😂😂
In fact the average brexiteer now tells everyone, let's stop talking about it.
Exceptionalism fail.
Oh but They Won is their cry. My upstairs neighbours won't shut up about it.
@@juliansadler6263 They did not win, winning would have been a successful Brexit, they lost only they voted to lose - like a turkey voting for Christmas.
@@JohnnyinMNWell your idiocy is not a fail unfortunately. There was no Exceptionalism. It was a democratic vote and the result was as it was. It was a UK vote not an individual country in Britain or northern Ireland vote. I never hear any English person talking about this anymore, they're all getting on with their lives. I think Scotland and Northern Ireland need to leave the UK and run back to the EU if they are that desperate, in turn making England defacto independent so we can also close borders with them and with Wales. The population of England should reduce by this as all the pro EU people leave England to go to a EU country.
The UK clearly made the right decision to leave the EU. It has a greater level of democratic control over its own borders and laws. It saves billions each year in EU membership fees. The EU is an organisation in serious decline.
I see brexit as a vote as to whether the British people wanted to join the EU.
We voted no.
very well put, since we never got a vote to enter it.
Don't worry, we've seen the error of our ways. We'll be back in in time.
@@coalhouse_walkerjnr4735Well probably not for many years if ever but at least you're optimistic.
@@hey12542 "Optomistic", you say? So at least you admit that that would be a good outcome. You may be slightly less deluded than you appear.
@@coalhouse_walkerjnr4735I find your reference to me being deluded offensive given that it's remainers like you who have really lost the plot here 😂. If you're optimistic then that's clearly a positive for your mental health and by the way some of you go on maybe being optimistic is what you need cause your coping strategies are shocking and you can't understand the principles of democracy.
The benefits will take awhile to become obvious. Not long to go now.
Only another 40 years to wait according to one of the main beneficiaries, Jacob Rees-Mogg.
UK's loss is our win in the EU. Thank you brexit.
is not fair to enjoy other problems, moreover uk is not "other", is "us"
@@aldob5681 Many felt the British entitlement, sense of superiority and lack of solidarity, so there is a certain schadenfreude. Sorry.
Definitely not nice.
@@aldob5681 the English never could see themselves part of the European project, not like the Scottish or the Northern Irish who realized the precariousness of an EU border across the Isle.
Why should we not look to see the leave voters go through all the stages of grief, realizing what the wrought and brought onto themselves?
It is a thorough education for us all, how looking backwards will not serve us to find new solutions.
@@lynnm6413 the EU is a peace project based on solidarity, openness and reciprocity. Unfortunately thats not in the spirit of the UK. So UK, enjoy your isolation.
Only UK talks about Brexit! EU doesn’t even care but as a European I would like UK to rejoin just because people were lied to…
Congratulations. Brexit benefits has finally arrived. Thanks to Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson
£ devalued at least 10%, therefore higher import costs Inc “food, clothes, shoes immediately “ course (ref Mr Hogg) now introduction of import duties further increasing prices (many of which were duty free as EU members introduction of export duties, making our exports less competitive, further damaging balance of payments, increased red tape due to export duties and procedures, large UK companies moving out of UK and relocating in Europe, now paying taxes and providing jobs in Europe, massive increase in customs staff costs and infrastructure, end of free movement for European travel. Our cup runneth over grrrrrrrrr.
honestly I feel sorry
@@lucatampellini9734 i so appreciate your feelings
Ha ha 😂, what Brexit. It's all gone from being a full EU member to a load of deals. That's not Brexit. Brexit would have been a complete clean break and then after some time they could have worked on deals that benefitted both sides.
Another Putin troll who doesn't know how to write English.
I see no reason why the UK will not continue to decline. I'm sure the best graduates will still be welcome to work in the EU, and the rest of the world, whilst the number of oportunities in the UK decrease.
When the video gets confused over EC (European Commission, a governing body) and EEC (European Economic Community, the precursor of EU) you know the content is pretty low on information.
As per the average Remainer/Rejoiner/loser in my experience
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" I'd rather be British & poor than European & rich"- quote from a Brexiteer. Well, it looks like you are getting your wish.
We joined, and then we left. End of, I'm absolutely sick to death of hearing about it.
Then don't watch. Move on.
@@latheofheaven1017Then stop going on about it and move on.
When you shit the bed you don't want people to keep going on about it.
@@TonyWhitleyTechnically if you're doing that it's best you keep quiet in the first place 😂.
The real question you should ask yourself is: are you, personally, better off now, after the Brexit?
The government didn't care. They're not the ones suffering now, the people are. The Tories have never cared about that.
How big is the latest black hole in UK finances? 30 billion or so?
It doesn't look as if anything is getting better.
Ok inflation seems at a low right now, but it is certain to pick up in Autumn, but then it could be Labour's problem, right?
Look, just because the US voted for T and shot itself in the foot, does not mean you have to say, "hold my beer! We can do worse!"
My small Dutch company has essentially given up on the UK market. We made it much harder for customers, and we are just finishing off our stock there.
Its not worth the hassle. We'd rather find new customers in France, Italy, Poland, and other east european countries.
Good for you, but we don't care. We're happy to be independent.
Fine. Leaves a space for the uk companies, entrepreneurs and start ups so the profits will be in the uk.
@@jonathansimmons5353 If Switzerland and Norway are anything to go by, this should greatly limit the range of choice to the consumers in the UK, with limited foreign brands staying on the market.
Replacing imported products with domestic often means a drop in quality and a price hike.
Its also very bad for UK exports, as many small business just do not wish to order from the UK anymore.
It is easier for most EU companies to severe and replace their UK ties. It is harder for UK companies.
@@gulanhem9495 Ask a Northern Irishman or a Scotsman about how happy they are to be independent again!
Also, as if the British public did not care about 10% of GDP and that it was all worth it.
@@agoogleuser4423
Great Briton GDP will grow faster than the EU's though.
May I just add that the difficulty we have exporting to the EU is experienced by every nation outside the EU.
And, every industry within the EU is finding that it's harder to get the materials they need to grow their business.
The result of this "fortress Europe" mentality is that growth across the Continent is stagnated. And if you check the adjusted figures for economic growth for mainland Europe, it's been flat for 30 years.
So much so that in Spain and Italy, whole villages are literally abandoned.
The failure of the EU to support growth had a dramatic effect on youth unemployment, and the rise of the far right in
Spain
France
Austria
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Poland
and even
The Netherlands.
I worked in the UK hospitality industry for decades, and it was my privilege to work with and employ some of the brightest, most motivated, skilled and hard working individuals you could ever hope to meet. The sort of people who would literally cross a Continent to find a job to maintain their self respect and make a life.
And the sad part is, THEY HAD TO. Because there were no jobs in their own countries for these supremely talented people.
I was employing University graduates, and specialists in multiple fields as bar staff, waiters, house keepers. People who by any measure really should have been high flyers.
I look at Brexit as a sad necessity. I've studied Economics, and I'm well travelled. I'm NOT xenophobic, and I deplored the tactics and lies by the Vote Leave campaign. Because they weren't needed. There were many reasons, good reasons to leave, based not on hatred, but pity.
Pity that Brussels' Gravy Train Politics is so out of step with the needs of the nations that look to it for guidance, and a plan to grow the market, NOT as is the case currently, to protect it to death.
Until the EU fundamentally embraces change, cuts waste, and supports global interests, we are, I respectfully submit, better off out of it.
Unfortunately, the team we entrusted with guiding us out of European Single Market, and into the global market were 4th rate twits, and I will forgive anyone who confuses their stupidity with an apparent error of judgement by the electorate.
Nearly every nation outside of EU has a trade agreement with EU and no difficulty exporting to us because of it. You, on the other hand...
I've learnt absolutely nothing from this video
So, Cameron had the referendum thinking it would go his way but it didnt. I can hear the voice of sir Humphrey:
-A rule of politics is never put the future of your policies in the hands of the voters, especially if you rely on their implementation for a smoother term in office.
(10:20) Fact check: Pre-EU, the UK was part of the EEC, (European Economic Community) not the European Commission, which is the EU's politically independent executive arm. This video really sucks. 👎
Yeah, not the only factual inaccuracy
"European Commission, which is the EU's politically independent executive arm". If you look at the commission's functions you learn that it is a kind of civil service with some executive functions. It proposes laws and regulations, it Implements decisions, it monitors compliance and it enforces compliance with EU rules.It represents the EU in the world at large.
It does NOT decide.
The decision are made by the elected representatives on The European Council ( The heads of state or government of the EU countries meet, as the European Council, to define the general political direction and priorities of the European Union. The European Council is chaired by a president who is elected for a 2.5-year term, renewable once. It does not adopt laws except for possible EU Treaty amendments), The Council of European Union ( Represents the governments of EU countries. The Council of the EU is where national ministers from each government meet to adopt laws and coordinate policies. Ministers meet in different configurations depending on the topic to be discussed. The Council of the EU takes decisions on European laws jointly with the European Parliament.)
IMO most people in Britain have never understood the functions of the EU Commission , in particular and the functions and Institution of the EU as a whole.
I live 17,000km away from Europe but I can use the search function on the internet . european-union.europa.eu/institutions-law-budget/institutions-and-bodies/types-institutions-and-bodies_en . The European Union’s institutional set-up is unique and its decision-making system is constantly evolving. The 7 European institutions, 7 EU bodies and over 30 decentralised agencies are spread across the EU. They work together to address the common interests of the EU and European people.
The EU website tells you all you need to know how the EU functions, decides and governs itself. One can read up its treaties.
By comparison Britain doesn't even have a written constitutions and neither are all its decision makers elected (HoL, head of state).
As for democracy. The term Democracy is derived from the Greek demos kratia "'people rule". What actually exist is representative democracy , people elect their rulers. Those that rule the EU are elected, viz, The European Council, The Council of the European Union and the European Parliament.
Yes, the UK was far from being one of the first members (that would be the members of the European Coal and Steel Community, the birthplace of what's now the EU) and the EU isn't "punishing" the UK, merely applying the rules designed for "third party nations", rules the UK was at the forefront of designing when the common market was designed.
@@TonyZoster “By comparison Britain doesn't even have a written constitutions and neither are all its decision makers elected (HoL, head of state).”
1) Loads of EU countries have a constitutional monarch as head of state. It’s not just a UK thing. King Charles doesn’t make any executive decisions at all.
2) Ireland has an unelected Senate modelled on the old House of Lords, but they’re pro-EU so they don’t count in your calculation. There are plenty of “decision makers” in the EU, such as the members of the ECJ, which are not elected. Given their power, you could argue they should at least be subject to the same scrutiny as nominees to the US Supreme Court.
3) The UK has a written constitution. It’s just not all written in one place.
In practice, rather than in theory, it’s very hard for the ordinary voters of the 27 to control the EU. People still act more like 27 unrelated electorates, rather than one. Moreover, for EU voters to control those in power, they really need to know 1) which specific individual is responsible for a policy they dislike, and 2) how can they cast their vote to remove that person from power. People have some sense of how to do this in their national polities, but not much sense of how to do it at the EU level. BTW if you think I’m wrong about this, please give me a counter example, where the EU enacted a policy, but the voters objected and used people power to force a 180º change of course.
Given that the 2016 referendum was a narrow 53/48 it boggles the mind that there wasn’t a second referendum after the leave agreement had been reached between the UK and the EU.
This is so obviously AI generated.
At least one country in Western Europe should be a genuine democracy. Thank god it is the UK.
Actually Brexit has failed.
How can something fail when it hasn't even started 🤔.
@@hey12542 denial is the first step towards acceptance
@@hey12542
Following a referendum on 23 June 2016, Brexit officially took place at 23:00 GMT on 31 January 2020 (00:00 1 February 2020 CET).
@@hey12542 Your Brexit is: business as usual, exploit the Single Market next door, keep all the advantages and pay nothing for it. This ship has sailed. You are a rule taker now. The EU is not a bloody colony of yours!
@JimTimber 😂 First step of acceptance would be Brexit actually happening though. Remainers couldn't cope with a real Brexit, that's why they bang on about how bad it's been in the hope England will rejoin. It's funny though cause all the friends I've asked have all said they would rather remain as it is 🤷🏻.
It was criminally negligent to have a referendum on leaving without the slightest hint of a plan for what to do if the referendum passed. They should have negotiated an exit procedure BEFORE the vote on exiting.
Spend millions on something that may not happen? They spent millions on propaganda about not leaving.
I feel sorry for those who wanted to stay and got i worse. Bur for all the others: you've got exactly what you wanted.
Hater.
@@hey12542 any news on Qatargate, you know that commissioner & 3MEPs who got nailed for corruption. Seems to have gone a bit quiet that one like they want to sweep it under the rug.
No punishment involved. Leaving an organisation and being treated as if you are not a member of that organisation is not punishment. It’s what you voted for.
This script sounds like it was written by AI. I miss the old days of RUclips when content had a more personal touch and was less corporate and unsourced.
Fun thing is UK got a special status in the Eu. Didn't need to change its currency dindt need to sign shengen, exports more to the market (that is tax free) then it imports. If it wasn't ok with some policy (making new rules) it just have to say NO.
Rejoining (I hope not) will be a huge shock. There will be no exceptions anymore.
"betreyal" label on the EU?? dafuq is that for a thumbnail?
We never asked anyone to leave..
Youre free to go do whatever you want.. But dont point fingers plz. We didnt vote you out. you did
wow thanks for that pearl of wisdom
@@rufanuf1 you dont find it offensive to be called betrayer out of the blue??
@@martinwinther6013 Thank you for your response. I knew my comments would get reactions from remoaners.
@@rufanuf1 Remoaners?? wtf does that even mean??
@@martinwinther6013 Thank you for your response. I knew my comments would get reactions from remoaners.
Nigel Farage is, supposedly, an Economist.
Just let that sink in...
Primer; Empty video for U.S. and beginner consumption only. No one who knows about the situation need to watch this.
This was one of those decisions made based upon emotion, not reason. Now, with hindsight, the British people can see how wrong-headed it was.
Maybe there should be a trade union with the U.K., U.S., Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. At least we all share a common language and similar cultures.
4.8 million EU Citizens applied for Right to Remain in Britain. ?
Why didn't they want to go back to the Great EU......??
Because they’d made a life in Britain, married Britons, had British children. The biggest con in the referendum was the change shortly before it happened from allowing EU citizens (the ones most affected it) a vote to denying them one. "Democracy" my arse, they (like Gibraltar) would have voted 99% Remain, the result would have been to remain and we wouldn’t have had the years wasted arguing about what leaving meant.
Probably because they had lives here?
Do you know how many Brits applied for the right to remain in the EU?
@@abelarturbrandaodacostacam5256 Tell us then, we are waiting.
Brexit has been a great benefit to the EU. All the leave groups in other EU member states suddenly looked at the UK post Brexit, and sat down and shut up. The damage to the UK is ongoing and growing. As for rules , if you are selling goods or services, you must abide by the rules of the buyer. They will go elsewhere if you are not willing.
"How long," 🤔 can the answer be a negative fraction?
I am an American. We pretty much ignored Brexit; we always respect the right of sovereign countries to do stupid things to themselves. We had a good laugh when the Tories expressed the thought that the U.S. would do them some special favors. The only thing Brexit did for us was get Britain out of the way of our doing more business with Germany, the real economic powerhouse.