Sterling by Music Man Ray4 | Stock vs. EMG MMTW pickup and preamp comparison

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  • @l7funk
    @l7funk 10 месяцев назад +14

    Its a reason we buy a musicman because of its one-of-a-kind tone.

  • @kirkegodfrey414
    @kirkegodfrey414 Год назад +12

    Insanely tight and consistent playing. HUGH THANK YOU I've installed the same thing along with the EMG 2 Band 1 knob EQ. In Hindsight, i'd maybe go the Mid EQ instead.

  • @1thess523
    @1thess523 7 месяцев назад +2

    So I just added an Aguilar AG4M pick up to my Sterling Sub with the stock preamp, I noticed a, lot of that high-end Stingray growl is gone because the pick up isn't as hot as the original pick up. What I do like is everything is smoother especially the E low end, I had the exact same bass a few years back and got rid of it because of the very reason that the lowend was kind flat yet farty at the same time. I've seen that putting the Aguilar preamp with bring my bass fully to life but right now I'm happy with the sound because it still has that Stingray character

  • @hydorah
    @hydorah Год назад +8

    Wow the the EMG sounds softer and more rounded. Not what I expected at all. Stock wins: More punch and more clarity

  • @Melkor0410
    @Melkor0410 Год назад +9

    Love the EMGs. Sounds really full, almost scooped low end and high end more pronounced very good for slapping, funk, rock, metal and punk. I have emgs on my bass but they are the pj set

  • @carlfranciscon
    @carlfranciscon Год назад +3

    The cat in the couch left when he was about to play using the EMG. Lol.

  • @j.r.carlucci6600
    @j.r.carlucci6600 Год назад +21

    It is interesting that the stock pickup at least to my ears sounds much better -- they just seem to be more 'open' and have more presence and growl. In my experience more 'modern' style pickups seem to sound rounder, and maybe 'gentler'. At least this was the case on a Sandberg TM4 with Delano pickups. I'm not sure if one is 'better' than the other, it's just that we are all probably used to hearing a certain sound so anything different than that naturally doesn't sound as good. The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is that the high end seems to be rolled off on the EMGs even with the preamp controls at 50%. I wonder if that is normal or it has something to do with the pickups and the preamp together.

    • @sonysoni5079
      @sonysoni5079 Год назад +3

      Hi. He doesn't have any preamp curcetry with EMG pickup, it's just simple passive Tone control. You should really compare Stock pickup, with preamp controls on 50% (Witch should be neutral preamp position, without any boost or cut in Bass and Trable regions) , vs EMG on Tone 100% (Witch is fully open, not attenuated pickup sound). There is also big volume boost wit preamp on 100%, witch is huge advantage in favor of stock pickup, as a well known psychoanalytic effect in production work, used to persuade listener that something louder, sounds better, as humans hearing perceives louder signals as better sounding.
      You should really compare 0:27 vs 1:52
      Sorry on my bad English.

  • @wolfgangsaller5843
    @wolfgangsaller5843 Год назад +3

    Good comparison! Thank´s!
    I think, the EMG TW combined with the EMG BQC Preamp would be superversatile and very easy to install !!!

    • @LisztmajerAdam
      @LisztmajerAdam  Год назад +2

      I have the BQC System on my Spector Euro5, it is great with the 3 band EQ and the parametric mid control. I really recommend it!

  • @davidcudlip6587
    @davidcudlip6587 Год назад +5

    It took a few times of listening and re-listening, but the EMG's have a bit more clarity on the higher notes. Not sure if I'd go thru the trouble and expense of switching pickups. The stock seems to work just fine. Owners of this bass model complain about the bad stock pickups and pre amps, but I think they work just fine. I picked up a used one and it's one of the best basses I've owned in that price range. I ain't changin nuffin !

  • @ashplaysbass
    @ashplaysbass Год назад +1

    This has confirmed my suspicion that a tone and a VMC would be the perfect pairing for this pickup

  • @garrydhintz8017
    @garrydhintz8017 Год назад +1

    The emg made it sound more like a g&l. Very interesting...

  • @bodymovin-calisthenics
    @bodymovin-calisthenics Год назад

    Hi Adam. Just a question. All in all are you satisfied with this bass?I'm planning to buy a similar one and I'd like to know your opinion. The stock electronics seems a bit hot to me. Overdriven I mean.

  • @jasoncherry5849
    @jasoncherry5849 Год назад +6

    Get the double humbucker version and replace one of them with the EMG and now you have the best of both worlds and some nice sound to mix.

    • @TSE_WOODY
      @TSE_WOODY 13 дней назад

      Which would you put on the bridge vs the neck i wonder

  • @daviddesmond2143
    @daviddesmond2143 8 месяцев назад +6

    Thank you for doing a comparison of the stock to modded. I think the stock pickup sounds great and that dumping $400 or so into one of these or a SUB is not needed, although there seems to be a cult of crustation lovers hell bent on modding their basses. Good for them but I am not dumping that huge amount of $ into a lower end bass when the stock bass sounds great.

    • @1thess523
      @1thess523 6 месяцев назад

      So I've seen countless SUB demos that sounds really good unfortunately they are all directly recorded. I don't do any direct playing all my playing is through an amp which is a Gallien-Kruger 700RB through an Eden XLT 4x10 and Ampeg Classic 1x15, although the SUB had a nice midrange growl unfortunately for me the lowend was flat and farty at the same time which I why I got rid of my original one year's ago and I was playing a different amp so it's not the amp. I recently added an Aguilar Pick up and kept the stock preamp, the bass lowend is way smoother and round unfortunately I lost that midrange growl (because the Aguilar isn't as hot and it's alnico and not ceramic) but not completely. I am happy with the tone but if I find a preamp on the cheap I'll probably swap it out, I got the Aguilar AG4M pick up pretty cheap so I'm not sinking a tone of money into it but in all honesty even if i sank $300 extra it wouldn't be bad because I've played enough Ray34's, 24's and American Stingrays to say these SUB basses are way more consistent in feel than the expensive one's i mentioned above, they are even more consistent in sound with the stock electronics.

    • @Flipit661
      @Flipit661 5 месяцев назад

      Yupp if you want an Ernie Ball just do it finance or something if you can, we find ways to get the things we want, right🎉😂celebrate and be happy.

  • @ggates2500
    @ggates2500 Месяц назад

    The single coil mode sounds f'g excellent to me.

  • @kevykev388
    @kevykev388 Год назад +16

    Sounds like Stock was better. In my experience, aguilar for MM style pups and/or preamp is the way to go

    • @steffomca762
      @steffomca762 Месяц назад

      The stock was good only with its eq boosted at 100% though. The EMG sounded good on its own with only a tone knob

  • @markanthony5897
    @markanthony5897 2 года назад +14

    Two different concepts .
    Tone with Coil modes VS 2 band.
    I know how it sounds, like stock is the stand out leader. But that's for the impatient. Sit back and realize the harmonic range of the EMG and hear how the stock has a narrow or hollow footprint. It would be beneficial to hear different styles on the right hand. But I am going to hazard an opinion.
    The EMG have more sonic range. The meat is fatter, the treble has more texture and even a bit more of the Pbass squish, or saturated fat. The difference is in the harmonic coloring. The Music man has it's well known character. The EMG takes it from there and fills in the blanks.
    If you can swing it, hold on to the EMG's and do more AB comparison with different dynamics, finger styles, genres, and with a mix of instrumentation, oh and with some modular effects. Take your time. My money is on the EMG. Easy decision.
    It's your artistic vision in the end.
    This is helpful for me , I have a Sterling Music Man with Dark Glass Tone Capsule. I'm going to grab the EMG to pair with that preamp. Thanks to you. 🙏👍😎
    P.S. we also didn't hear the Stock with Bass 50-100% and Treble 0-50%.
    That could give us what the EMG tone knob gives us. The sub tone.

  • @phillkeegan9116
    @phillkeegan9116 Год назад +3

    After hearing this i put a Seymour Duncan in mine 😍

    • @bobt5778
      @bobt5778 8 месяцев назад

      Smb4 I assume - Alnico or ceramic?

  • @nafis6668
    @nafis6668 Год назад +1

    the low notes on stock pickup sounds so heavy, almost brutal kind of way. i would love if my bassist use it, compliment heavy guitars nicely.

  • @TSE_WOODY
    @TSE_WOODY 13 дней назад

    The EMG sounded really good with the tone up on especially on single coil but I wouldn’t call it a massive upgrade, wouldn’t be a necessity.

  • @csorszbalazs7315
    @csorszbalazs7315 24 дня назад

    Szia!
    Van olyan Emg humbucker, ami telljesen passzív és nem kell elektronika sem, csak tone meg felező poti van?

    • @LisztmajerAdam
      @LisztmajerAdam  23 дня назад +1

      Szia!
      Az EMG MM-HZ az, ami teljesen passzív, de az szerintem nem felezhető. Amúgy ehhez az MM-TW-hez is jár minden elektronika, vezeték és poti, ami kell, semmit nem kell külön megvenni.

    • @csorszbalazs7315
      @csorszbalazs7315 23 дня назад

      @@LisztmajerAdam Köszönöm szépen!

  • @FidelLema
    @FidelLema 8 месяцев назад

    Hello, I have a question, I have a bass very similar to yours, did you physically modify the bass or did you just replace it in the circuit, does the bass with this pickup stop being active? thank you!

    • @LisztmajerAdam
      @LisztmajerAdam  8 месяцев назад +1

      Hi!
      No special modifications are necessary, I just removed the factory pickup and electronics, then installed the EMG pickup and electronics.
      The EMG electronics and the pickup are also active. (The stock pickup is passive)

  • @DmitrijPALYCH
    @DmitrijPALYCH 10 месяцев назад

    *спящий котэ в ролике - значит у чела всё в поряде)*
    _p.s._
    _чел - no eyebrow_
    _чел - real man))_

  • @aharris9464
    @aharris9464 Год назад

    From my ears the stock pu seems to have more punch and reasonance. Also the emg seemed to brighten up as the tone knob was turned up.

  • @siriurameshi5790
    @siriurameshi5790 Год назад +2

    i do like a stock one
    however , i didn't mean the EMG is bad.

  • @phillkeegan9116
    @phillkeegan9116 2 года назад +49

    Stock sounds better all round! 🤣

  • @vonicrimson3619
    @vonicrimson3619 Год назад +3

    0:49 stock
    1:52 emg

  • @imhandumdrehen
    @imhandumdrehen Год назад +3

    0:28 (0:33) 1:31 1:52 (1:58)

  • @FlankinspanK
    @FlankinspanK День назад

    emg sounds like a blanket over the stingray tone lol

  • @gog_bass
    @gog_bass Год назад

    What kind of settings did you use on your line6 ?

    • @LisztmajerAdam
      @LisztmajerAdam  Год назад +1

      Hi! I don't remember the exact settings, but I used the Deluxe compressor, Ampeg SVT head and Ampeg 810 cab.

    • @gog_bass
      @gog_bass Год назад

      @@LisztmajerAdam Thanks ! I'll have to check these out, the 50/50 stock pickup part you played just sounds incredible to me.

  • @FriskyBiscuits67
    @FriskyBiscuits67 Год назад +1

    What strings do you use?

    • @LisztmajerAdam
      @LisztmajerAdam  Год назад

      The bass had factory strings (maybe Ernie Ball)

  • @lemonsito4805
    @lemonsito4805 2 года назад +1

    Whats the song he played?

    • @LisztmajerAdam
      @LisztmajerAdam  2 года назад

      The groove is based on "Got to be real" by Cheryl Lynn

  • @dolfanrob262
    @dolfanrob262 Год назад +6

    Sounds like save your money and stick with the stock.

  • @SeanChang14
    @SeanChang14 Год назад

    NICE~!

  • @RichBriere
    @RichBriere Год назад +2

    Nicely Produced and No Tattoos !!......Count me In. 🙏 #bassilicious

  • @adamomatos
    @adamomatos Год назад

    Top!

  • @luigi.zanini
    @luigi.zanini 8 месяцев назад

    FLAT PREAMP
    stock 0:28
    emg 1:32

  • @1thess523
    @1thess523 10 месяцев назад +1

    It lost that Stingray growl

  • @micha93punk
    @micha93punk Год назад

    Qual nome da música? Jota Quest?

    • @LisztmajerAdam
      @LisztmajerAdam  Год назад +1

      The groove is based on "Got to be real" by Cheryl Lynn

  • @Flipit661
    @Flipit661 5 месяцев назад

    Them stock pups sound perty good..jus sayin 😅

  • @tony.guitarplayer
    @tony.guitarplayer Год назад

    Tuning?

    • @LisztmajerAdam
      @LisztmajerAdam  Год назад

      If I remember correctly it was tuned in standard D (DGCF)

  • @johnglynhughes4239
    @johnglynhughes4239 Год назад

    Stock all day 👍

  • @kirkegodfrey414
    @kirkegodfrey414 2 года назад

    I've done exactly the same thing.

  • @MarcG7424
    @MarcG7424 2 года назад +4

    Stock by a mile

  • @danielerenda25
    @danielerenda25 2 месяца назад

    STOCK.

  • @irwanstinkybataraofficial4688
    @irwanstinkybataraofficial4688 Год назад +1

    Stock better

  • @Omarlopezband
    @Omarlopezband 8 месяцев назад

    Stock

  • @BassBajo
    @BassBajo 9 месяцев назад +1

    Stock pickup sounded better by a mile IMO

  • @andreagottardo-allen3059
    @andreagottardo-allen3059 6 месяцев назад +1

    Stock sounds better. People waste their time thinking theres always better out there. Best players in the world could make anything sound good, its all smoke and mirrors, people trying to flog you things you dont need..