You are suppose to offset your Sonopan and drywall, meaning one should be vertical, one should be horizontal. Since you normally hand drywall horizontally, your Sonopan should have been hung vertically. You did it correctly on the inside of the room, but not the outside. You were also fretting about the 1/8th inch gap, however it is recommended to leave a gap and fill with acoustic sealant for best results.
Your 8th gap is actually a good thing according to sonopan's instructional website, and filling in the gap with acoustic sealant, like the one you had, was the ideal use for maximizing soundproofing, not my words though its just the research I've acquired from watching too many of these satisfying vids... I love watching this video though too, your instruction is satisfying
Thanks for the positive feedback! Its the first time I've used this product, so lots of details to remember. Hopefully, now that its finished, I can make it back there for an update video and see how my customers are enjoying the soundproofing
@@zackcrafted Would really appreciate if you could do a before and after and video. Even see if you could put the sound decibel value. I am in desperate need to fix our bedroom and dining area. We have neighbours upstairs in our condo that walked like a gorilla and elephant at the same time during the quiet hours and loves running laundry at night. My Strata is fucking useless and can’t seem to do anything about it.
@@Jaybee1217 Hi! Unfortunately I wasn't able to take a before and after sound test. Hopefully in the near future I'll be stoping by that same job and can ask the homeowners if they've noticed a drastic difference or not. That might be in a future video in the next month! I'm just throwing a random guess, but I would say it would help 50% Sorry that upcoming video won't be sooner! Thanks for checking this one out though!
I have a same question as the gentleman below. How do you get the electrical boxes and pot lights to come out extra 2.5 inches. I did an extensive search on internet but couldn't find any answers.
In this situation the home owner took care of the electrical boxes. You can buy extensions for them though, should be available at your hardware store. Then for the pot lights we had retro fit, 1/2" thick, so we just dropped the wires down where we wanted them, and were able to install the slim profile spotlights wherever we wanted. If you have a 'can' style pot light its be a different story. If the pop lights are already installed, i'm not sure what the best options would be.. as I haven't heard of a pot light extender Good luck!
Hi Andrew, good question. Unfortunately I only listened, no test of the actually decibel rating. One major weak point were the doors, the client may update those but is undecided
I've never heard of Sonopan before, so I looked it up. Is it only available in Canada? Their website says that combined with other materials, you can bring the STC of a wall up to 68, which is pretty good. But I think it's not available in the US.
Ya, as far as I know its a Canadian made product not available outside of the country yet. Not sure if theres a comparable product in the states or not... Could always add more layers of drywall ;p
@@zackcrafted They have Homasote, which I saw at Lowe's. I haven't used it, so I don't know how good it is, but except for the lack of the holes, I think it's the same idea. It's also a recycled wood fiber board.
at the start you said you added the insulation because the air cavity will act like a drum. There's an air cavity between the sonopan and the 1st drywall/resilient channel, will this not act like a drum too?
good point! the Sonopan is dimpled in such a way that it absorbs the sound that hits it, rather then two sheets of drywall in an empty wall, noise and vibrations tend to bounce around a bit more
*by really good I mean almost comparable with the sonopan method. It’s difficult to go fully sound proof unless you do the full way like the method I used, and even then there’s another tier that’s far better but quite extensive
Hi Chris, good question, its pretty far! You could either plan for that, and add some blocking to bring the box out, or, in this case, we bought electrical box extensions to make up the difference
@@chriscarr1791 mhmm, maybe not, I didn't do the electrical. You could try and get longer screws for the outlet... ideally its a box and no breakage where theres a potential of combustibles. I forget what the electrician did in this situation Good luck finding something though!
You don't want your drywall screws to contact the wall studs. If you do, it will erase all decoupling effect of using the resilient channel. Drywall is only screwed to the resilient channel.
Good question! We did the same method for the ceiling as sound transfer from above is often worse. Safe and Sound rockwool for the joist space, Sonopan, resilient channel, and two layers of 5/8th drywall.
this was the only option due to covid and limited supplies but I think the option you mentioned would have made another layer of protection and isolation which would help overall!
SonoPan is originally a product of Homedepot USA. Had I known about this product that time we did the ceiling upgrade would have save me a massive headache and inconvenience.
Unfortunately material was in very short supply in my area as this was during Covid, we decided to move ahead with the project despite the lack of clips
Dang, Joachim Phoenix be a jack of all trades...had no idea he also knew construction knowledge.
You are suppose to offset your Sonopan and drywall, meaning one should be vertical, one should be horizontal. Since you normally hand drywall horizontally, your Sonopan should have been hung vertically. You did it correctly on the inside of the room, but not the outside. You were also fretting about the 1/8th inch gap, however it is recommended to leave a gap and fill with acoustic sealant for best results.
Nifty drywall trick with the tape, Zacky!
Great video thx for sharing
Thanks, great video!
Thanks for watching!
so good!!!
this was super helpful
Thanks for sharing. It would be great to see sound transfer after each layer being installed.
That would have been a good idea! Next time I’ll remember to test each stage
Your 8th gap is actually a good thing according to sonopan's instructional website, and filling in the gap with acoustic sealant, like the one you had, was the ideal use for maximizing soundproofing, not my words though its just the research I've acquired from watching too many of these satisfying vids... I love watching this video though too, your instruction is satisfying
Thanks for the positive feedback! Its the first time I've used this product, so lots of details to remember.
Hopefully, now that its finished, I can make it back there for an update video and see how my customers are enjoying the soundproofing
@@zackcrafted Would really appreciate if you could do a before and after and video. Even see if you could put the sound decibel value. I am in desperate need to fix our bedroom and dining area. We have neighbours upstairs in our condo that walked like a gorilla and elephant at the same time during the quiet hours and loves running laundry at night. My Strata is fucking useless and can’t seem to do anything about it.
@@Jaybee1217 Hi!
Unfortunately I wasn't able to take a before and after sound test. Hopefully in the near future I'll be stoping by that same job and can ask the homeowners if they've noticed a drastic difference or not. That might be in a future video in the next month!
I'm just throwing a random guess, but I would say it would help 50%
Sorry that upcoming video won't be sooner!
Thanks for checking this one out though!
I have a same question as the gentleman below. How do you get the electrical boxes and pot lights to come out extra 2.5 inches. I did an extensive search on internet but couldn't find any answers.
In this situation the home owner took care of the electrical boxes. You can buy extensions for them though, should be available at your hardware store.
Then for the pot lights we had retro fit, 1/2" thick, so we just dropped the wires down where we wanted them, and were able to install the slim profile spotlights wherever we wanted. If you have a 'can' style pot light its be a different story.
If the pop lights are already installed, i'm not sure what the best options would be.. as I haven't heard of a pot light extender
Good luck!
hey just wondering did you do a sound test to see how much sound transfers to the adjacent room?
Hi Andrew, good question. Unfortunately I only listened, no test of the actually decibel rating. One major weak point were the doors, the client may update those but is undecided
Hi there, do you provide in home service? #canada ?
I've never heard of Sonopan before, so I looked it up. Is it only available in Canada? Their website says that combined with other materials, you can bring the STC of a wall up to 68, which is pretty good. But I think it's not available in the US.
Ya, as far as I know its a Canadian made product not available outside of the country yet. Not sure if theres a comparable product in the states or not...
Could always add more layers of drywall ;p
@@zackcrafted They have Homasote, which I saw at Lowe's. I haven't used it, so I don't know how good it is, but except for the lack of the holes, I think it's the same idea. It's also a recycled wood fiber board.
at the start you said you added the insulation because the air cavity will act like a drum. There's an air cavity between the sonopan and the 1st drywall/resilient channel, will this not act like a drum too?
good point! the Sonopan is dimpled in such a way that it absorbs the sound that hits it, rather then two sheets of drywall in an empty wall, noise and vibrations tend to bounce around a bit more
Is any acoustical sealant just as good as green glue sealant?
I would say yes.. but the sonopan people would probably say otherwise :p
How did the single layer of sonopan and 5/8 work out for sound? Space is tight and thinking of doing the same method.
It works well! Honestly though if your tight for space using acoustical caulking on your studs and doing 5/8ths works really good too
*by really good I mean almost comparable with the sonopan method. It’s difficult to go fully sound proof unless you do the full way like the method I used, and even then there’s another tier that’s far better but quite extensive
how do you get all the electrical boxes to come out the extra 2.5" with all those extra layers ?
Hi Chris, good question, its pretty far! You could either plan for that, and add some blocking to bring the box out, or, in this case, we bought electrical box extensions to make up the difference
@@zackcrafted they make 2.5" extensions ? I have never seen those , really struggling with this lol
@@chriscarr1791 mhmm, maybe not, I didn't do the electrical. You could try and get longer screws for the outlet... ideally its a box and no breakage where theres a potential of combustibles.
I forget what the electrician did in this situation
Good luck finding something though!
What size screw to go through Sono pan and resilient to go wall stud?
Hi Leo
I used 1 5/8” drywall screws
You don't want your drywall screws to contact the wall studs. If you do, it will erase all decoupling effect of using the resilient channel. Drywall is only screwed to the resilient channel.
What about sound traveling through the ceiling from room to room...?
Good question!
We did the same method for the ceiling as sound transfer from above is often worse. Safe and Sound rockwool for the joist space, Sonopan, resilient channel, and two layers of 5/8th drywall.
@@zackcrafted - would you also suggest doing the same in ceiling? i.e SonoPan,Mineralwool,SonoPan,RC, double 5/8 drywall?
@@Jaybee1217
yes! Thats what we did for this job as well, same steps as we did for the walls
Why resilient channel instead of hat channel with isolation clips?
this was the only option due to covid and limited supplies
but I think the option you mentioned would have made another layer of protection and isolation which would help overall!
Can you buy this in the uk
Hi yaman
I don’t think they are a uk product yet, but I’m sure there’s something similar
Hopefully you can find something that works!
There should be rc1
SONOpan only in Canada...or...not?
SonoPan is originally a product of Homedepot USA. Had I known about this product that time we did the ceiling upgrade would have save me a massive headache and inconvenience.
@@Jaybee1217 Thanks for answer.
Links for RC?
I can try and add a link! They should be at your big box hardware stores such as Lowes and Home Depot
Supposed to be clips that the channel snaps into, this is making contact all the way across the wall. Not right.
Unfortunately material was in very short supply in my area as this was during Covid, we decided to move ahead with the project despite the lack of clips