Your products would probably make a killing on instagram/tiktok. I was shocked to see you had less than 2000 followers on Instagram 😱 Love what you're creating and hoping your reach grows and grows!
Actually a lot of oil in Spain is not bought in glass bottles, it is bought in very large metal bottles (5-8L) which are rectangular. So the box shape is not really new, the material is but metal is very easy to recycle (arguably more so than tetrapacks).
Yep not from spain but i have a large metal box of olive oil brought from italy... why would you faff about shipping a plastic container? It is plastic! it sheds microplastics everywhere! That sucks!
If plastic "shed" at all, let alone everywhere, it WOULDNT BE USED....... It is used SPECIFFICIALLY BECAUSSE it doesn't "shed" or leak or break down in the mere presence of air and water, like metal does.
@@stapuft Recent studies show 100x higher levels of microplastics in plastic water bottle water than previously thought. Do you think the companies care? It is used because it is cheap and legal. Nestlee or whatever bottled water company has 0 care for your health.
I'm on the fence for #3 Even with the refilling bladder - I still have to buy a bottle of oil at the store to decant, and then I have an empty bottle Also if I finish my box and then mail it back to Spain for a refill, isn't that just increasing the carbon footprint? It's a good product, I just think it's creating a couple problems while fixing others
you have to compare the footprint of sending it back and forth to the footprint of shipping and processing all the raw materials for a new packaging every time. And and empty bottle can be reused again and again, unless you forsee a time when you will stop cooking with oil.
We are always looking to improve this (every year we tweak it a bit more), but when you send it back-it comes to us here in the UK (which is the only place we sell the oil). We pay to have the plastic fully recycled with TerraCycle so it closes the loop and the plastic is then able to be made into something new.
@@citizensofsoil oh wow, I was not expecting a reply from the source itself! That's great to hear and alleviates my concerns quite a bit, really glad to hear you're improving on processes and keeping all this in mind. All the best to you, wish you much success
Okay but Barry's drawing of Ebbers is actually adorable and he definitely should draw the rest of the team and then you should sell merch featuring the drawing
Thank you for showcasing Citizens of Soil. They tick all my boxes for sustainability. I like to add one fact you may have missed. When the oil is packed in bags. You can dispense olive oil WITHOUT adding oxygen. Helps olive oil last a bit longer.
The idea of returning packaging to the producer can work really well at a local scale, but I think it stops being sustainable when the empty packaging has to be shipped longer distances. I would imagine it would be better to create packaging that is easy to recycle, like aluminum cans, or is compostable.
@Sku11Leader ultimately the vehicles only run because there is demand! if noone was posting things the vehicles wouldn't run, so if we found a way to reduce the need to post items then less vehicles would be needed
@@Sku11Leaderthat just help the toxic system to stay in place. We can t keep running so many planes, container ships, trucks. Anything using this system is just wrong since it keeps it alive longer.
@@krt2068 To be fair to that argument kind of necessitates a world where everyone only/majorly used locally produced products. Which I imagine is a much bigger chance than any one olive-oil company can really dream of making so in the reality where they are saying that "if any noticeable percentage of olive oil production was done this way. It would be more sustainable in transport costs/diminished glass production/waste" then you gotta give it to them. And it does seem to be one of the smarter ways of going about it since, much like Ebbers said with the coffee cups, the oil needs a container that it won't dissolve since it's a liquid. And most coatings that make that possible also makes the container itself non-biodegradable. Hence: recycling
Ahhh I’m so happy something from my home country (Lithuania) made it into the video! ❤❤ We are very passionate about honey and literally everyone is 1-2 people removed from getting local honey 😂
Shrub is amazing! Suggestion for another collab with max guys! He made a raspberry one from. 1911. Your collabs with him are your best! You all work so well! What do you think?❤❤❤❤❤❤
I was looking for a similar comment. Max did one a little while ago involving raspberry shrub and if I remember correctly the UK used to have some very affordable prices on their raspberries in comparison to here in the US. A shrub collab would be cool
I've been making my own shrubs, specifically, grapefruit and a caradomon apple shrub for 7 years now. I love shrubs. To see it now on your channel is surprising and awesome. They are so easy to make in your own kitchen and delicious. Love it!
Perhaps i missed it, but wouldn't it be better for the bee keepers to keep the wax that the bees produce instead of sending it back and forth in the form of a jar? I'm still very iffy on the idea of creating more transport via sending stuff back instead of more local recycling. Glass bottles do break but they are also nigh infinitely recyclable. Compared to plastics which are not, while they weigh less, they also create q ton of microplastics and other less appealing stuff.
Idk about that olive oil thing. 1) shipping the used up bladder all the way to Spain or Greece cannot be efficient. 2) I doubt they reuse it - washing it thoroughly to get all the old oil out will be very hard. Easier to resend a fresh pack back and bin the old one. 3) Price of return shipping is part of the packaging cost = higher total cost for the oil. 4) Plastic is less recyclable than glass, which is less recyclable than metal. It really feels like taking a step back for recycability. 5) Plastic bladders in box wine always leave some of the product in them; it's harder to get the last drop out compared to glass or can.
Depends on how much the wax weighs, and what type of honey it is. Wax is scarce and I wouldn't be surprised if it's half that price or more. It has to be melted, filtered, and molded.
I would buy the notebooks if they are fountain pen friendly. In the past when most people used fountain pens paper was a better quality than what is made nowadays when ink tends to bleed or feather.
I would for sure give all a try especially the honey and oil. But being in the US these items may be hard for me to get but I would surely give them all a go, thanks guys you are great to watch and great information on items!
I make a 'shrub' every year with my plum harvest. Although the 1950s cookbook I got the recipe from simply calls it Plum Vinegar. I use red plums with really sour skins that adds so much delicious tang to the vinegar solution. I like to drink mine with Schweppes lime soda water. I've also used the strained fruit pulp to make cakes.
Interesting that shrubs have a similar history to cocktails, which were an invention of the underground booze culture of Prohibition-era America. With the sale of booze outlawed, speakeasies started offering bootleg hooch(not renowned for its quality control) mixed with all manner of things to mask the unpleasant flavors that came along with the sketchy distillation, storage, and transport. If you want to ensure freshness in your olive oil, you buy it by the can - which is also recyclable.
I haven't bought a takeaway coffee for a while but I always take a keep cup with me. I was doing that a few years before it got popular and it was hard to find the coffee cups with a lid. I also took my own little bowl with a lid and spoon with me and if I wanted a take away cake and coffee I used my stuff instead of all the paper and plastic wrap. I know when I was a kid, paper straws were coated in a wax so they wouldn't dissolve in your drink. I like these videos. It shows how things change but also kind of stay the same. Thank you
As a teetotaling calligrapher, I really loved this video. If this is the direction trends are going then I can definitely get behind them. My friends and family may even get Christmas cards in 2024 because there’s a sale on some that are made in a way that doesn’t seem irresponsible and wasteful. Thanks. Keep up the good work!
with the honey, you could also reuse the wax yourself, if you're a sewist (when hand sewing, you run the thread over beeswax or somesuch other wax to keep the thread from fraying as it passes through the fabric over and over again), or you could melt it down and coat fabric in it to create beeswax wraps for covering bowls, cut fruit, or to enclose a sandwich in your lunch box.
The olive oil is extremely expensive - seems to me that you are paying a lot for the intermediary. You can buy top Greek olive oil for less directly from producers, with shipping about the same price for 5l instead of 3l…
I wish you could have an episode like this for the US. I know you have a lot of viewers from here that would like to see things like this that we can have access to. I really liked the Coffee Notes, but they are unable to ship to me in the US (Pennsylvania).
this is by far the best food trends video of sorted I have ever seen. Good start of 2024, Sorted! I would love to write my ideas in those coffee note books. That's the best Item among the four showcased in the video. And as usual,👍(liked)!
I've been watching you for years and never commented! But this episode deserves the first ever comment. From doing the research to find the honey pot, to how well you all explained the need for the prices and the trickle down of innovation. Well done! I'm a proud Sorted fan 💛💚
For the Bee Loop product, I would set the whole container in a small ceramic container just in case I break the wax. Once I have used all the honey, the wax could be used as a candle.
the oil in the box should last a long time because air can't get into the bladder. you can tuck that in your store cupboard and use it to fill your nice looking glass bottle you keep in the kitchen :D
I think I have a problem with the olive oil. Maybe not. It's confusing. My first thought was "Oh no! More plastic!" but then Ben mentioned transportation and I started thinking and it made my brain hurt. Sure glass is heavier and more difficult to transport but on the other hand you ship the empty bag back to some place. The bag will also degrade is not as reusable as glass, but then again how environmental friendly is the cleaning of the bottles and then later the recycling of the glass? Taking everything into account is Citizens of Soil really better for environment? I don't know enough about all of this, but somehow my instinct tells me glass is better? Not a valid argument of course. Edit: I am only talking about the packaging. I like the other aspects of Citizens of Soil and I might try it because the price seems fair.
I love the olive oil story. But the bee wax container has me a bit perplexed... Where do they get so much bee wax from to make the containers, if not from bees who as you said, work their little tuchies off making the comb.
Each winter a hive goes into a form of hibernation and form a ball of bees. That means the frames used for honey string get removed, either to be melted down or store and returned to the bees next spring. In spring the bees start their yearly life cycle of frantically and effectively expanding their hive to produce as many bees to make the hive large enough the coming winter. If the weather holds the hives can become huge, but there many variables that can cause a hive to die. Dry summer weather makes the queen not lay eggs as to not empty the food storage, and mild winters can kill hives because the temps signals spring too early and they start expanding too quickly before spring flowers and trees have begun producing pollen and nectar.
I love all of these! I'll have to see if they all send to the states. I don't know how many products I've bought because of this channel. Got my sister the licorice salt for a gift, the miracle berries & szechuan buds just to try, & that many jars of that Pommery Dijon mustard. Thank you from highlighting all of these cool products!
All three are fabulous ideas. The honey pots are my favourites , I love the idea of being able to give the pot to any bee keeper to return to the bees. I can really get on board with this. May even be worth keeping one pot to melt down to revitalise wax wraps.
Also good for people who can't drink anymore or who maybe can't drink at the moment or those lunch meetings you want to be sober for. But still want something sophisticated and not just some soda or sugar fizzy drink.
Just checked out Citizens of Soil. Looks cool. They do have bottles, but they look like they'd be just as awkward as the box or pouch to deal with. I'd love to see them offer a really user-friendly, product-protecting, refillable, PRETTY bottle. Make me want to keep it on the table and drizzle flawlessly for my guests.
May I add that whilst it's a good idea to send things back to source what about the carbon footprint of shipping back overseas. I love the ideas presented here you guys aren't afraid of showcasing new and evolving ideas.
Shrubs are really easy to make!! I got into them like 6 years back from a friend who makes wild soda and grows tons of things in his backyard. Not that you shouldn't buy them, but definitely give it a try at home as well :) edit: Learning that people are figuring out how to recycle plastic lined paper goods is wonderful!
I adore apple cider vinegar drinks! Especially with a shot of ginger, honey & lemon. Good for your throat and good for your tummy. I like that you featured the coffee cup recycling. We also need something for those horrible plastic cups that people these days use in their coffee machines. I'd like to tell everyone.... French press tastes better and is easy to use!! Wonderfully informative video today. Thank you!
>We also need something for those horrible plastic cups that people these days use in their coffee machines The inventor spent years campaigning against their use after inventing them :S
INTERESTING fact re the name "Nonsuch..." The Nonsuch is a wee little (for a tallship - she's a ketch) ship which currently sits in the Manitoba Museum in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. She was the first ship to come into Hudson Bay, I believe, at what is now Churchill, Manitoba. Interesting indeed to see such ancient cordial mixes with that name. No idea if it has any relation. EDIT, because I was far too excited about the name: Nice one with "shrubbish," Ebbers, I do like me a good pun. Cheers from Winterpeg (which is finally living up to its fearsome reputation)!
Interesting fact. An olive tree will only produce enough olives to make roughly 3-4 liters of oil. That box on the table is about a single trees worth.
In my area of Australia, we have a cordial company that makes a Raspberry Vinegar Cordial. It is excellent and tastes almost like fresh raspberry. The company is called Billson's.
Re: EVOO I would like to see if they could make the bags from veg or some other recyclable container. I know you can send it back, but the cost of transport clean out etc would outweigh a recylable material.
We so, so wish we could find a plant-based plastic or compostable material we could use, but there's nothing approved yet for extra virgin olive oil to ensure the quality and integrity of oil remains. But we're always looking and speaking to circular packaging experts to see the latest! For the returns, we use TerraCycle to break down the pouches into the raw components, so we don't do "cleaning" of them. We'd actually love to but olive oil is messy business (we've tried). But watch this space!
Has no one created a polycarbonate style bottle out of soy protein? I'm not sure what the industry would demand for a shelf life, but if the goal was to put it into a glass bottle at the end retail purchaser's home would that not work? Just taking guesses. @@citizensofsoil
I made raspberry shrub in the last 6 months from Max Miller's Tasting History cookbook. Soooo good! Expensive for me to make, but relatively easy and worth making.
The olive oil one confuses me, I thought we were trying to move away from plastics. Even if the bladder is reusable aren't we worried about microplastics in our food?
I’d be well up for the shrubs but that pricing is definitely a symptom of the mind virus that is alcohol prices. You’ve somehow been convinced that a tenner is a reasonable price for a single drink so 16 must be good for something that makes three litres while I’m here buying the fancy cordials for a fifth of that from bloody Waitrose and this stuff dilutes at 10 to one so it’s over 5 litres
Once again, the Coffee Notes and Citizens of Soil websites note they ONLY ship within Great Britain! Great Britain has a population of 67.33 million, the United States 331.9 million, California 39.24 million. Only showing products available in Great Britain is missing out of a LOT of people.. As for the beeswax/honey, people need to buy organic honey where they live, since bees feed off of native plants within a 30 mile radius which means the honey will be more helpful to the person.
i am absolutely on board with all of these, but i am actively on the Citizen of Soil site right now trying to see if they ship to the US (edit) nooooooo :( only available in the UK! im glad they are doing what they are doing, but i guess i will sit over here in the US and keep my eye on them for when they grow big enough to ship elsewhere
I'm not sure I am all for the bees wax container. I rather they make good glass containers you can keep and use. Either cos they are just a practical size or cos they look very pretty. We always have a need for glassware. I'd be more excited about them making lids on everyday glasses of pickles that don't start to rust so easily.
Barry and Mike are truly the best people for this format because they’re trendsetters in their own way: Mike with his hair and Barry with his Cloud Egg tech-ers. Happy Sunday to SortedFood HQ and the Community!
Note: The decline of bees is not about the bees that produce honey for 'us'. Those bees are even competing with native polinators, including a variety of lesser known bee species.
Since 3y ago my mom has an olive grove in Andalusia and i can tell you IT IS HELL... Farming in general is not easy by any means, but with very high restrictions on water usage due to drought and climate change you also cannot water your olives. This resulted this year into very small olives in the entire region around her, and the olive presses closing 3 weeks earlier than normal (October till last week of January would be normal) Also the price for olives (as a farmer) went from 45cents wholesale to 90cents to 1eur05 depending on where you go to sell them because there was such a shortage of actually good olives... And then I'm talking about just your run of the mill average olives, not single estate famcy variety olives.... It will get more and more expensive if things continue like this...
The oil thing - we've been getting our oil in metal tubs to much the same effect - isn't that better since the whole tub is recyclable and doesn't need to be returned
Are those wax containers heat resistant to some degree? Can they survive a very hot summer or do they not crack easily when dropped? I think that’s the biggest problem with sustainable packaging. There are great ideas that might work on small scales but when you do large scale, it becomes a waste. Where i am for example, using banana leaves is possible, but you cant use that in all packaging. I think we should focus more in regional, small scale things while we figure out a true, cost efficient, sustainable packaging.
Switchel is a lot like shrub, just as old, and was designed as a hydration beverage for breaks during hard work. The story about shrub being created to cover the off tastes in smuggled liquor is a nice story, but it sounds too much like marketing copy. Besides, when alcohol goes bad it generally turns to vinegar. Adding more vinegar taste would not be the best way to mask it.
The arabic word in question, I'd be willing to bet is (in it's anglicised from) Sharaab. Curiosuly enough, the world Sharaab in Urdu (a descendent of Arabic) means an explicitly alcholic drink. To the best of my knowledge anyway
Would love it if the next food trend video could have a food compost machine. I've seen a couple around but would love your take on them and if they're worth the price.
Thanks for talking about our products ❤ for those asking we have just opened our online store to deliver to the USA!
I immediately went to your website and was pleased to see your products are readily available on this side of the pond. What a great idea!
Your products would probably make a killing on instagram/tiktok. I was shocked to see you had less than 2000 followers on Instagram 😱 Love what you're creating and hoping your reach grows and grows!
Thank you thank you love that; and can’t wait to try out your products
I'm in the States so that's great to hear.
How do you go about collecting the cups?
Actually a lot of oil in Spain is not bought in glass bottles, it is bought in very large metal bottles (5-8L) which are rectangular. So the box shape is not really new, the material is but metal is very easy to recycle (arguably more so than tetrapacks).
Yep not from spain but i have a large metal box of olive oil brought from italy... why would you faff about shipping a plastic container? It is plastic! it sheds microplastics everywhere! That sucks!
If plastic "shed" at all, let alone everywhere, it WOULDNT BE USED....... It is used SPECIFFICIALLY BECAUSSE it doesn't "shed" or leak or break down in the mere presence of air and water, like metal does.
@@controlledsingularity8084 The metal canisters that are used to store olive oil are lines with plastic on the inside as well.
@@stapuft Recent studies show 100x higher levels of microplastics in plastic water bottle water than previously thought. Do you think the companies care? It is used because it is cheap and legal. Nestlee or whatever bottled water company has 0 care for your health.
@@DangerSquiggles Sadly true. But it is one time used plastic. Reusing plastic containers creates a rapid increase in microplastic shed.
I'm on the fence for #3
Even with the refilling bladder - I still have to buy a bottle of oil at the store to decant, and then I have an empty bottle
Also if I finish my box and then mail it back to Spain for a refill, isn't that just increasing the carbon footprint? It's a good product, I just think it's creating a couple problems while fixing others
you have to compare the footprint of sending it back and forth to the footprint of shipping and processing all the raw materials for a new packaging every time. And and empty bottle can be reused again and again, unless you forsee a time when you will stop cooking with oil.
We are always looking to improve this (every year we tweak it a bit more), but when you send it back-it comes to us here in the UK (which is the only place we sell the oil). We pay to have the plastic fully recycled with TerraCycle so it closes the loop and the plastic is then able to be made into something new.
@@citizensofsoil oh wow, I was not expecting a reply from the source itself! That's great to hear and alleviates my concerns quite a bit, really glad to hear you're improving on processes and keeping all this in mind. All the best to you, wish you much success
Okay but Barry's drawing of Ebbers is actually adorable and he definitely should draw the rest of the team and then you should sell merch featuring the drawing
Thank you for showcasing Citizens of Soil. They tick all my boxes for sustainability. I like to add one fact you may have missed. When the oil is packed in bags. You can dispense olive oil WITHOUT adding oxygen. Helps olive oil last a bit longer.
That means a lot. 🥹 And you're exactly right on keeping oxygen out of the pouring. So important for keeping the quality up!
The idea of returning packaging to the producer can work really well at a local scale, but I think it stops being sustainable when the empty packaging has to be shipped longer distances. I would imagine it would be better to create packaging that is easy to recycle, like aluminum cans, or is compostable.
But if you consider that those delivery vehicles are going to be running either way I could see it maybe being better.
@Sku11Leader ultimately the vehicles only run because there is demand! if noone was posting things the vehicles wouldn't run, so if we found a way to reduce the need to post items then less vehicles would be needed
@@Sku11Leaderthat just help the toxic system to stay in place.
We can t keep running so many planes, container ships, trucks. Anything using this system is just wrong since it keeps it alive longer.
@@krt2068 To be fair to that argument kind of necessitates a world where everyone only/majorly used locally produced products. Which I imagine is a much bigger chance than any one olive-oil company can really dream of making
so in the reality where they are saying that "if any noticeable percentage of olive oil production was done this way. It would be more sustainable in transport costs/diminished glass production/waste" then you gotta give it to them. And it does seem to be one of the smarter ways of going about it since, much like Ebbers said with the coffee cups, the oil needs a container that it won't dissolve since it's a liquid. And most coatings that make that possible also makes the container itself non-biodegradable. Hence: recycling
If it was implanted in a way that any producer's of the same product could receive it and reuse it then it would be more sustainable
Ahhh I’m so happy something from my home country (Lithuania) made it into the video! ❤❤ We are very passionate about honey and literally everyone is 1-2 people removed from getting local honey 😂
Shrub is amazing! Suggestion for another collab with max guys! He made a raspberry one from. 1911. Your collabs with him are your best! You all work so well! What do you think?❤❤❤❤❤❤
I was gonna say the same thing! Max did a shrub episode and there’s a recipe in his cook book! Interesting ingredient for sure!
I thought the same 😹
Glen from Glen and friends cooking also made a couple of shrubs a few months back.
@@Mrhullsie2 I'll bet his used maple syrup. Mmmmm!
I was looking for a similar comment. Max did one a little while ago involving raspberry shrub and if I remember correctly the UK used to have some very affordable prices on their raspberries in comparison to here in the US. A shrub collab would be cool
I've been making my own shrubs, specifically, grapefruit and a caradomon apple shrub for 7 years now. I love shrubs. To see it now on your channel is surprising and awesome. They are so easy to make in your own kitchen and delicious. Love it!
Perhaps i missed it, but wouldn't it be better for the bee keepers to keep the wax that the bees produce instead of sending it back and forth in the form of a jar?
I'm still very iffy on the idea of creating more transport via sending stuff back instead of more local recycling.
Glass bottles do break but they are also nigh infinitely recyclable. Compared to plastics which are not, while they weigh less, they also create q ton of microplastics and other less appealing stuff.
I love how Mike’s reactions and comments add so much to the discussion! Really great work🎉
Idk about that olive oil thing. 1) shipping the used up bladder all the way to Spain or Greece cannot be efficient. 2) I doubt they reuse it - washing it thoroughly to get all the old oil out will be very hard. Easier to resend a fresh pack back and bin the old one. 3) Price of return shipping is part of the packaging cost = higher total cost for the oil. 4) Plastic is less recyclable than glass, which is less recyclable than metal. It really feels like taking a step back for recycability. 5) Plastic bladders in box wine always leave some of the product in them; it's harder to get the last drop out compared to glass or can.
How much would the same honey have cost in a jar, it is nice to be responsible for waste but there are limits, €30 seems rather a lot.
Moreover the bees wax could be given back right away to the bees or not taken away at all.
Depends on how much the wax weighs, and what type of honey it is. Wax is scarce and I wouldn't be surprised if it's half that price or more. It has to be melted, filtered, and molded.
I would buy the notebooks if they are fountain pen friendly. In the past when most people used fountain pens paper was a better quality than what is made nowadays when ink tends to bleed or feather.
I would for sure give all a try especially the honey and oil. But being in the US these items may be hard for me to get but I would surely give them all a go, thanks guys you are great to watch and great information on items!
I make a 'shrub' every year with my plum harvest. Although the 1950s cookbook I got the recipe from simply calls it Plum Vinegar. I use red plums with really sour skins that adds so much delicious tang to the vinegar solution. I like to drink mine with Schweppes lime soda water. I've also used the strained fruit pulp to make cakes.
Interesting that shrubs have a similar history to cocktails, which were an invention of the underground booze culture of Prohibition-era America. With the sale of booze outlawed, speakeasies started offering bootleg hooch(not renowned for its quality control) mixed with all manner of things to mask the unpleasant flavors that came along with the sketchy distillation, storage, and transport.
If you want to ensure freshness in your olive oil, you buy it by the can - which is also recyclable.
I haven't bought a takeaway coffee for a while but I always take a keep cup with me. I was doing that a few years before it got popular and it was hard to find the coffee cups with a lid. I also took my own little bowl with a lid and spoon with me and if I wanted a take away cake and coffee I used my stuff instead of all the paper and plastic wrap. I know when I was a kid, paper straws were coated in a wax so they wouldn't dissolve in your drink.
I like these videos. It shows how things change but also kind of stay the same. Thank you
As a teetotaling calligrapher, I really loved this video. If this is the direction trends are going then I can definitely get behind them. My friends and family may even get Christmas cards in 2024 because there’s a sale on some that are made in a way that doesn’t seem irresponsible and wasteful. Thanks. Keep up the good work!
Hope you guys had a Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year! May God bless all of you!
the shot from 12:23 where you can see the sorted food neon in ebbers glasses, splendid!
Aye!
with the honey, you could also reuse the wax yourself, if you're a sewist (when hand sewing, you run the thread over beeswax or somesuch other wax to keep the thread from fraying as it passes through the fabric over and over again), or you could melt it down and coat fabric in it to create beeswax wraps for covering bowls, cut fruit, or to enclose a sandwich in your lunch box.
The olive oil is extremely expensive - seems to me that you are paying a lot for the intermediary.
You can buy top Greek olive oil for less directly from producers, with shipping about the same price for 5l instead of 3l…
I wish you could have an episode like this for the US. I know you have a lot of viewers from here that would like to see things like this that we can have access to. I really liked the Coffee Notes, but they are unable to ship to me in the US (Pennsylvania).
But maybe some of the American solutions are not available to be sent to the UK?
@@tildehenriksen6242 maybe something in between with shipping more open.
this is by far the best food trends video of sorted I have ever seen.
Good start of 2024, Sorted!
I would love to write my ideas in those coffee note books. That's the best Item among the four showcased in the video.
And as usual,👍(liked)!
0:19 Ebbers' first "lift the cloche" was so British, I thought Stephen Fry was in the room
I mean the choice between an infinitely reusable glass bottle and a plastic bag is pretty easy.
I've been watching you for years and never commented! But this episode deserves the first ever comment. From doing the research to find the honey pot, to how well you all explained the need for the prices and the trickle down of innovation. Well done! I'm a proud Sorted fan 💛💚
For the Bee Loop product, I would set the whole container in a small ceramic container just in case I break the wax. Once I have used all the honey, the wax could be used as a candle.
I would love to see a dedicated episode on shrubs. I made Concord grape and cranberry shrubs this year, and they were a huge hit.
the oil in the box should last a long time because air can't get into the bladder. you can tuck that in your store cupboard and use it to fill your nice looking glass bottle you keep in the kitchen :D
I think I have a problem with the olive oil. Maybe not. It's confusing.
My first thought was "Oh no! More plastic!" but then Ben mentioned transportation and I started thinking and it made my brain hurt. Sure glass is heavier and more difficult to transport but on the other hand you ship the empty bag back to some place. The bag will also degrade is not as reusable as glass, but then again how environmental friendly is the cleaning of the bottles and then later the recycling of the glass?
Taking everything into account is Citizens of Soil really better for environment? I don't know enough about all of this, but somehow my instinct tells me glass is better? Not a valid argument of course.
Edit: I am only talking about the packaging. I like the other aspects of Citizens of Soil and I might try it because the price seems fair.
I love the olive oil story. But the bee wax container has me a bit perplexed... Where do they get so much bee wax from to make the containers, if not from bees who as you said, work their little tuchies off making the comb.
Each winter a hive goes into a form of hibernation and form a ball of bees. That means the frames used for honey string get removed, either to be melted down or store and returned to the bees next spring. In spring the bees start their yearly life cycle of frantically and effectively expanding their hive to produce as many bees to make the hive large enough the coming winter. If the weather holds the hives can become huge, but there many variables that can cause a hive to die. Dry summer weather makes the queen not lay eggs as to not empty the food storage, and mild winters can kill hives because the temps signals spring too early and they start expanding too quickly before spring flowers and trees have begun producing pollen and nectar.
In french Caribbean, Schrub is an orange peels and spices rum, traditionally for christmas.
I genuinely want to try some many of these. Thank you Sorted for already getting me prepared for 2024. 😊
I love all of these! I'll have to see if they all send to the states. I don't know how many products I've bought because of this channel. Got my sister the licorice salt for a gift, the miracle berries & szechuan buds just to try, & that many jars of that Pommery Dijon mustard. Thank you from highlighting all of these cool products!
On the olive oil, if they were doing it in cans maybe. But I don't want microplastics in yet another product.
Alton Browns cranberry shrub is a christmas staple! so excited to see shrubs come up!
I am SOLD on Citizens of soil! I am definitely buying the olive oil.
Oil you want! So nice to hear it. 🙌
All three are fabulous ideas. The honey pots are my favourites , I love the idea of being able to give the pot to any bee keeper to return to the bees. I can really get on board with this. May even be worth keeping one pot to melt down to revitalise wax wraps.
An idea for hiding things too big to go under a closh maybe use a tea towel or cloth napkin or even table cloth if needed for biger items.
Also good for people who can't drink anymore or who maybe can't drink at the moment or those lunch meetings you want to be sober for. But still want something sophisticated and not just some soda or sugar fizzy drink.
Ebbers' pun game is on point!
Shrubs was also the first energy drink, it just to mixed to water for workers on a hot day.
I think the weird ash drink that roman gladiators drank is often given that appellation.
Just checked out Citizens of Soil. Looks cool. They do have bottles, but they look like they'd be just as awkward as the box or pouch to deal with. I'd love to see them offer a really user-friendly, product-protecting, refillable, PRETTY bottle. Make me want to keep it on the table and drizzle flawlessly for my guests.
Yes, love this! And it's something we're working on...
May I add that whilst it's a good idea to send things back to source what about the carbon footprint of shipping back overseas. I love the ideas presented here you guys aren't afraid of showcasing new and evolving ideas.
4 wonderful products!! Thanks of. much for introducing us to these great products. Certainly plan to get the coffee notes and the olive oil.
Ebber's puns were top notch this episode!
I have my olive oil (mine is from Spain) in a box because this way it keeps better, and it's better for the world. Love it.
Shrubs are really easy to make!! I got into them like 6 years back from a friend who makes wild soda and grows tons of things in his backyard. Not that you shouldn't buy them, but definitely give it a try at home as well :)
edit: Learning that people are figuring out how to recycle plastic lined paper goods is wonderful!
Always have fun with food trends! One of my favorite series guys! Thanks
I adore apple cider vinegar drinks! Especially with a shot of ginger, honey & lemon. Good for your throat and good for your tummy. I like that you featured the coffee cup recycling. We also need something for those horrible plastic cups that people these days use in their coffee machines. I'd like to tell everyone.... French press tastes better and is easy to use!!
Wonderfully informative video today. Thank you!
>We also need something for those horrible plastic cups that people these days use in their coffee machines
The inventor spent years campaigning against their use after inventing them :S
@@Idiomatick fascinating. I didn't know that. Thanks for the reply!
I like all of these sustainable products, I hope they start utilising them world wide especially here is Australia
INTERESTING fact re the name "Nonsuch..." The Nonsuch is a wee little (for a tallship - she's a ketch) ship which currently sits in the Manitoba Museum in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. She was the first ship to come into Hudson Bay, I believe, at what is now Churchill, Manitoba. Interesting indeed to see such ancient cordial mixes with that name. No idea if it has any relation. EDIT, because I was far too excited about the name: Nice one with "shrubbish," Ebbers, I do like me a good pun. Cheers from Winterpeg (which is finally living up to its fearsome reputation)!
Quick Question: Does Sidekick have gluten free options?
Yes they do and most of the rest of the recipes can be just swaping for gf instead its great
You would need to use Gluten Free where applicable.
This is seriously the best channel on RUclips... 😋
Glad to see shrubs get a shout out! It was my first foray into home fermentation.
Oh nice! These cordials were fantastic. Maybe you could try making your own?
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The shrubs is like norwegian 'saft'. Saft is used in 1 to 9 part, or 1 to 5 ratio, mostly used with water.
CONGRATS ON THE ENGAGEMENT IZZY!
I like the idea of refilable oil the problem i have i cant use that much in a year so i wonder if theres smaller amounts
Thank you for showing more great companies. However, i really wish you would link products that you believe in to make it easier to support them.
Is avocado oil a trend in the UK? It is big here in the US, from California or Mexico. High smoke point, neutral flavor.
That olive oil is more expensive than I've seen at any local refill shops. If you have the options check yours first i think
Interesting fact. An olive tree will only produce enough olives to make roughly 3-4 liters of oil. That box on the table is about a single trees worth.
In my area of Australia, we have a cordial company that makes a Raspberry Vinegar Cordial. It is excellent and tastes almost like fresh raspberry. The company is called Billson's.
30 euro for such a small pot of honey? i know the prices went up a bit but that is insane.
Ok who else knew Barry was an artist? I want that Ebbers sketch framed please.
Shrubs are great in the summer with sparkling water.
Re: EVOO I would like to see if they could make the bags from veg or some other recyclable container. I know you can send it back, but the cost of transport clean out etc would outweigh a recylable material.
We so, so wish we could find a plant-based plastic or compostable material we could use, but there's nothing approved yet for extra virgin olive oil to ensure the quality and integrity of oil remains. But we're always looking and speaking to circular packaging experts to see the latest! For the returns, we use TerraCycle to break down the pouches into the raw components, so we don't do "cleaning" of them. We'd actually love to but olive oil is messy business (we've tried). But watch this space!
Has no one created a polycarbonate style bottle out of soy protein? I'm not sure what the industry would demand for a shelf life, but if the goal was to put it into a glass bottle at the end retail purchaser's home would that not work? Just taking guesses.
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I made raspberry shrub in the last 6 months from Max Miller's Tasting History cookbook. Soooo good! Expensive for me to make, but relatively easy and worth making.
The olive oil one was silly. Lots more plastic in that than a glass bottle.
You send the plastic bottles back and they recycle them to form into new products
The olive oil one confuses me, I thought we were trying to move away from plastics. Even if the bladder is reusable aren't we worried about microplastics in our food?
Perhaps have a contest with autographs of everyone in one of those coffee books?
These must be made by Shrubers. That’s where you get your best shrubberies.
I’d be well up for the shrubs but that pricing is definitely a symptom of the mind virus that is alcohol prices. You’ve somehow been convinced that a tenner is a reasonable price for a single drink so 16 must be good for something that makes three litres while I’m here buying the fancy cordials for a fifth of that from bloody Waitrose and this stuff dilutes at 10 to one so it’s over 5 litres
Barry having multiple items of Quadrant merch makes me so jealous! And now i want to see a Sorted x Quadrant or a Sorted x Lando Norris collab!!
I feel the Oil product introduces plastic where it was unnecessary to begin with. Glass bottles are fine as they are. I prefer glass to be honest.
Love it, bit is it possible to set the oven clock that keeps blinking in videos? The one behind Mike…
Just bought the scrubs 4 pack, down to £66. GREAT DISCOUNT.
Once again, the Coffee Notes and Citizens of Soil websites note they ONLY ship within Great Britain! Great Britain has a population of 67.33 million, the United States 331.9 million, California 39.24 million. Only showing products available in Great Britain is missing out of a LOT of people..
As for the beeswax/honey, people need to buy organic honey where they live, since bees feed off of native plants within a 30 mile radius which means the honey will be more helpful to the person.
“Go ahead, have a little drink - they’re not shotters” 😄 He meant “shooters”, oh dear, Ebbers is adorable!
i am absolutely on board with all of these, but i am actively on the Citizen of Soil site right now trying to see if they ship to the US (edit) nooooooo :( only available in the UK! im glad they are doing what they are doing, but i guess i will sit over here in the US and keep my eye on them for when they grow big enough to ship elsewhere
Maybe someday...🤩 Thanks for the kind words!
I'm not sure I am all for the bees wax container. I rather they make good glass containers you can keep and use. Either cos they are just a practical size or cos they look very pretty. We always have a need for glassware. I'd be more excited about them making lids on everyday glasses of pickles that don't start to rust so easily.
We get shrubs all the time at the local farmers market. Cucumber mint is great in summer.
Barry and Mike are truly the best people for this format because they’re trendsetters in their own way: Mike with his hair and Barry with his Cloud Egg tech-ers.
Happy Sunday to SortedFood HQ and the Community!
I used to love when they all sat around the table and discussed the trends... But loving this video too
I prefer this format, to be honest.
Note: The decline of bees is not about the bees that produce honey for 'us'. Those bees are even competing with native polinators, including a variety of lesser known bee species.
9:33 Wow Ben is truly a wordsmith in this video. Just beautiful crafted one liners 🔥
I’m on board with any company that cares about helping the environment
Love Barry’s jacket.
Since 3y ago my mom has an olive grove in Andalusia and i can tell you IT IS HELL... Farming in general is not easy by any means, but with very high restrictions on water usage due to drought and climate change you also cannot water your olives. This resulted this year into very small olives in the entire region around her, and the olive presses closing 3 weeks earlier than normal (October till last week of January would be normal)
Also the price for olives (as a farmer) went from 45cents wholesale to 90cents to 1eur05 depending on where you go to sell them because there was such a shortage of actually good olives... And then I'm talking about just your run of the mill average olives, not single estate famcy variety olives....
It will get more and more expensive if things continue like this...
The oil thing - we've been getting our oil in metal tubs to much the same effect - isn't that better since the whole tub is recyclable and doesn't need to be returned
Are those wax containers heat resistant to some degree? Can they survive a very hot summer or do they not crack easily when dropped? I think that’s the biggest problem with sustainable packaging. There are great ideas that might work on small scales but when you do large scale, it becomes a waste.
Where i am for example, using banana leaves is possible, but you cant use that in all packaging.
I think we should focus more in regional, small scale things while we figure out a true, cost efficient, sustainable packaging.
Coffee notes=brillant!
Mike just said, “brilliant” after my post 😳😂. Great minds
Switchel is a lot like shrub, just as old, and was designed as a hydration beverage for breaks during hard work. The story about shrub being created to cover the off tastes in smuggled liquor is a nice story, but it sounds too much like marketing copy. Besides, when alcohol goes bad it generally turns to vinegar. Adding more vinegar taste would not be the best way to mask it.
The arabic word in question, I'd be willing to bet is (in it's anglicised from) Sharaab. Curiosuly enough, the world Sharaab in Urdu (a descendent of Arabic) means an explicitly alcholic drink. To the best of my knowledge anyway
Please link the products in the caption
Would love it if the next food trend video could have a food compost machine. I've seen a couple around but would love your take on them and if they're worth the price.
I love these videos, but hate that being in the US, these things may be too cost prohibitive to get!
I would love the bee loop honey. Just worried it wouldn’t survive the shipping in summer
Good point, that would be interesting to see if it does!
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About the coffee notes.
No, they do not look like high quality. Look at the binding, it's the cheapest that you can get, it doesn't even lies flat.