(Full Video) Lord Jamar GOES OFF On KRS 1's Lies About Latino & Jamaicans Creating Hip-Hop
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Watch the full video of Lord Jamar setting the record straight on KRS 1's claims about Latinos and Jamaicans creating hip-hop. Don't miss out on this insightful discussion!
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Protect this man at all cost. The truth has no friends
Lord Jamar is so right about us being cool all the time with letting other cultures in, but none of those other cultures mess with us.
Sad but true real talk
Facts!
they have nothing we wanna mess with. absolutely nothing
@@alphabright9138 I won’t argue
Na double edge sword
The annoying part is having a 16 year old in 2024 think he has more owness over the art than a 50 year old who was there .
That's what happens when you don't own nor control your art 👍
Personally, the concern I have is this: As a whole, and even musically speaking, the talented Black - Richly Melanated global community covers all planetary continents & countries; from Africa to Middle East; from Switzerland to Sweden; from Venezuela to Brazil; from Barbados to Jamaica; from Australia to Papua New Guinea & etc...
That said, likely the majority of the said 'Hip-Hop' musical input did indeed stem from those of the Black Diaspora; yet, being that music is a universal language, likely there also was some input (influence) from Asians, Mestizos as well other racial stocks. In the end, (especially whereas one may be Black North American, Black South American, Black African, Black European, Black Caribbean, Black Australoid, Black Pacific Islander & etc...) what's important is for the Black Diaspora to recognize their overall musical input while simultaneously also recognizing that music is indeed universal, for and from all people. Thus, the argument seemingly is futile.
Krs been a clown. He said you must protect bambatta no matter what he did.
KRS made the song "13 and Good." I've been questioning him ever since.
I don't agree with the bambatta thing. However I know better than to say Puerto Ricans are making arguments about whether this is a African Form of Music because We never have. Not to mention as aI pointed out earlier. I am darker than all of you. Puerto Rico has an African heritage more pronounced than the confused bands here trying to delineate who is a "Real" Black person. This shows a forgotten lesson all of us cherished about the Diaspora and who we are. WE are everywhere..except here in the U.S. where Being Black is as amorphous as Being white. Who is the Whitest ? The Brits? The Dutch? This is Bullshit. No PUerto Rican has or will ever make this comment. In additon No Puerto Rican will ever say they weren't part of the culture if they were.
Was he separating the art from the artist, like some people do with R.Kelly?
Thanks for keeping it true .
Keep speaking the facts lord we black Americans created hip-hop and everything else that is going on in America all the genres Keep speaking the facts God
My real Puerto Ricans know blacks invented Hip Hop💯. Since the 40s
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💯🫡 and I’m Puerto Rican and I been knowing that
Like I said before. Where were they when we created Blues, Rock & Roll, R&B, Soul, Funk, House, Disco, Chamber Music , Jazz etc. They knew nothing about it because there was no internet for them to copy us. Name 1 thing they created….
EXACTLY! Stop confusing participation with creation. Hip Hop is the #1 music genre in the world due to any and everybody's consumption and participation. HOWEVER.....THE CREATION OF IT ALWAYS WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE BLACK AMERICAN MEN AND WOMEN...FULL STOP! You can't change what already happened lol, IDK what is wrong with folks. Hip Hop was birthed out of the black man and woman experience and narrative. How the hell can you create something you have no clue on!?!? That is also not being said, it was birthed from a place only BLACK MEN AND WOMEN had in this country. Stop the insanity. There is no more back n forth on this, the truth doesn't need defending. We are gonna say what the truth is and leave it at that!
What's understood doesn't have to be explained
The God cooked on this one✊🏾🦉
Krs one said himself "The dreds in Brooklyn were crazy, you couldn't come out the house wit no hip-hop because the pistols would go (gunfire). In the song "the South Bronx".
Krs 1 is nuts
Lord jamar hit a grand slam with his take on this video ‼️‼️‼️‼️...FBA💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿🔥🔥🔥🔥
Lord Jamar is one of the last real ones left in the game 💯
All of a sudden everyone was kumbayaing creating hip hop together... gtfoh!!!
Right. These 🇯🇲 and 🇵🇷 are very delusional. Til this day their music sucks and they can't even rap or rhyme for shit but they really believe that they helped create hip hop. I never ever in my life heard any FBA household play Jamaican or Puerto Rican music. We never got any of our style or influence from them but they get all of their style and influence from Foundational Black Americans. They had to take on our culture to be seen as "cool".
1. There is no "all of a sudden". People are a product of their environment.
2. If you were born and raised in New York you would know that New York is one of the most ethnically diverse cities in the world. To this day neighborhoods of all kinds of black people reside there
3. "Kumbaya" was attempted in Oregon and Levittown maybe a few other places 👍
*Str8 Facts!*
I'm glad I watched this. He made it clear. History is factual and not always reflective of our ideals.
U dead rite bout EVERYTHING you said💯💯‼️‼️
Black Music ✊🏿
This needs to be said.
Before I hit play I knew he was dropping facts!
28:09 ROCK STEADY released 1/24/72 by Aretha Franklin 💪🏾 I sho nuff heard Aretha Franklin in my head!!🎼 Let's call this song exactly what it is
(What it is, what it is, what it is)
It's a funky and low down feeling (What it is)
In my hips from left to right (What it is)
What it is I might be doing (What it is)💃🏽
Y’all know the song!🎉
They steal everything from blk people & lie & say they invented it … This has been going on for centuries and it’s gotten so blatant that they just doing it with Hard proof that they’re lying.
Shalawam&Salute Mike for the full upload 🫡 and Salute to Lord Jamar for simply speaking facts without fear! I loved how he maintained facts when folks tried to use gaslighting, disinformation, and deflection to take away from facts of the matter and KRS was the first rapper on wax with biblical truth about us being the scattered 12 Tribes so it blew my mind to see that he would make such an idiotic claim 🙌🏾💪🏾⚔️
Peace Lord respect Hip Hop History 1000
Black Spades from the BX been breakdancing heavy since the mid 1960s until the early 1970s and they put it down because they was tired of getting dirty from dancing😂And when they put it down, the Puerto Ricans picked it up around 1975-1976.
True💯💯💯💯💯💯
Nah my boy BX is different than anywhere else across the country. Puerto Ricans was also members of the Spades and Zulu Nation. I don't have any problems saying rapping started by American black people same as Jazz music, Rock & Roll, and changing the entire music scene for decades at a time. The contribution to American music is crazy. Instead of arguing who made hip hop the narrative should be let's preserve hip hop in its original form not to celebrate the genocide of people. I'm Puerto Rican grew up in the BX during the 80's. The question was who's the best rapper Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap or Rakim. That argument would cause fights. I rolled with the 18th letter we ain't have one until Big Pun. Who you think Pun idolized? Kool G Rap. G Rap said he loved Pun and said that many times.
I really hate this American black vs Latino hip hop shit Puerto Ricans Cubans Dominicans and everything in between them islands are black they are brothers and sisters 💯
@rotweilerscholar1181 💯💯💯
@rotweilerscholar1181 Let's really talk facts lil bro the original discussion was on regards to Hip Hop the Black Spades didn't start Hip Hop they was a street gang. The Zulu Nation didn't start Hip Hop matter of fact no one was rocking none of the Zulu Nations style they looked like the Village People. They didn't even call Bam Baata out for being a ped o file. Lord Jamar and KRS1 deflected far from the obvious. Why should the Zulu Nation be praised why should the Spades be praised what was their actual contribution to the community?
Rapping and brake dancing been around 90 years.Look up Brake dancing in 1930 the Mills Brothers.Its in our young brothers DNA .THE Latinos lying
You mean Nicholas Brothers
The MIlls brothers? The were a Vocal group. Not a dance group. YOu probably meant the Nichols brothers. Tap dancing included they were very acrobatic but it wasn't Hip HOp. This watery form of arguement does NOT work. Hip HOP created NONE of the elements. There were forms of these things IN and OUT Of the African American communites. Did Africans start Dj'ing? did they even come up with the names? Tagging existed OUTSIDE of Hip HOP. It was members of HIP HOP who brought these elements (these two being the foundation) to Hip HOP. So Hip HOp can be said to have elements that aren't African IN IT. That doesn't stop it from having a MUSICAL form of expression which isnt authentically Black or African. This being said the argument about Puerto Rican influence is no arguement. We influenced it and gues what? 50 years of doing this and this is the FIRST time this idea has been promoted as something valid. I have NEVER heard a Puerto Rican claim Hip HOP is anything but a African form of music. PLUS this may be a good time to actually study the Puerto Rican culture because people are trying to imply it isn't an African influenced and African descended population but nothing can be futher from the truth.
@@lesserlight They had the Lindy Hop in 1930 look up the definition for Hop in Dance in the 30s . Also look up meaning of Hip in the 1930s . Hip and Hop is at least a 100 years old. Most people don't know the meaning of Hip and Hop . But our young people got it in their DNA FROM our Ancestors
Straightening..,💪🏾👑
He is 100% correct and that’s the end of the conversation
No He isn't and the fact you cant see it isn't impressive.
This convo is needed to keep people informed! Lord Jamar is definitely Gatekeeper for Hip Hop!
Not sure about that. This is nothing but division. I've said it above but no Puerto Rican has ever said this was a Puerto Rican form of Music. In addition He was clearly wrong in stating that Hip Hop is just Dj's and emcees. He also said cats used to do the Wop. Now that wasn't a Hip Hop dance and cats didn't battle to that. We popped or breakdanced. and it was a Battle. Emcing came LAST. PLUS it was designed to BIG UP the DJ not to big up self which in all fairness, Brand Nubian did so revising history on his part is not a debate tool which is appropriate or acceptable. That is INDUSTRY projection. So no...right now this isn't gatekeeping. This is just riffing and division. Hip HOP unifies.
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Lord Jamar response to KRS-ONE views on cultural origins of Hip-Hop
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Lord Jamar breaks down DNA of Hip-Hop
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Lord Jamar on 5%Percent Nation influence
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Lord Jamar on Latino & Black BabyBoomer generation relations
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Lord Jamar thanks other ethnic groups for Hip-Hop contributions
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Lord Jamar on giving credit to the originators of Hip-Hop/5 Elements of Hip-Hop (MC, Djing, Graffiti, Breakdancing, & Knowledge)
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Lord Jamar on Corp. Hip-Hop
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Lord Jamar speaks on "Microphone🎤Check"
(A Tariq Nasheed documentary)
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Lord Jamar on RockSteadyCrew naming
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CrazyLegs stated other Latino Hip-Hop artist were not "media savy"
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Lord Jamar on inquiring influences other ethnic groups played a origin role in Hip-Hop
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"Yo PeteRock, make some James Brown soul drums" onetwo
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>>>>>Jump 2 LIVE Stream
Puerto Ricans in the Bronx loved that Aretha Franklin record. “Rock Steady Baby!” #rocksteadycrew
EXACTLY - real one’s know where they stole that name from and the music from that very same iconic song | B1 |⭐
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@@TheCodifiedNetwork what it is! 🎵🎶✊🏾
You right Lord Jamar, “NO MO Talk”
It’s when your forced to learn or believe something we’re not familiar with 💪🏼💯🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thank You!!
Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work just give everyone the credit and the respect that they deserve from the earlier days of hip hop from the fourth fathers of hip hop everyone generation has help change the culture now look at the stage of it now 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Five percenters played a big ass part in Hip Hop it’s how I got knowledge of self.
Kool Herc went to a Hip Hop party. That alone tells you he didn't create it. He went to a Hip Hop party, and it's creators were the Black Spades, an FBA organization. This takes you back to the late 60's.
FACTZ, big facts everybody doesn't except black culture. As soon as black people want to stand on something they get backlash.
Dude had One for all on tape. Salute Mike.
Black American aka American Indian is American history,so is hip hop 😮
Thank you for setting the record straight. Can't believe KRS!!!
Speak on it God!
P.R.'s are in the middle when it comes to certain aspects of the culture and I get it. The 1st caller was on point too!
L.J. is making a lot of the facts plain. they know, ppl stop getting upset over the truth.
From what I learned from Robert Glasper, HIP POP is a cultural movement that is influenced by JAZZ and JAZZ is the ancestral culture of Black North Americans and there are a lot of people trying to take away merit from Black Americans, unfortunately. message from a brother, peace
Personally, the concern I have is this: As a whole, and even musically speaking, the talented Black - Richly Melanated global community covers all planetary continents & countries; from Africa to Middle East; from Switzerland to Sweden; from Venezuela to Brazil; from Barbados to Jamaica; from Australia to Papua New Guinea & etc...
That said, likely the majority of the said 'Hip-Hop' musical input did indeed stem from those of the Black Diaspora; yet, being that music is a universal language, likely there also was some input (influence) from Asians, Mestizos as well other racial stocks. In the end, (especially whereas one may be Black North American, Black South American, Black African, Black European, Black Caribbean, Black Australoid, Black Pacific Islander & etc...) what's important is for the Black Diaspora to recognize their overall musical input while simultaneously also recognizing that music is indeed universal, for and from all people. Thus, the argument seemingly is futile.
Nothing but facts 💯king keeps smashing all clowns 🤡 🤡🤡🤡
It’s not just about Creation, it’s about Organization! “Without Organization, They’ll be no Black Nation” -KRS ONE
1520 Sedgwick Avenue in the Bronx is the birthplace of hip hop.
On August 11, 1973 DJ Kool Herc (A jamaican), a building resident, was entertaining at his sister’s back-to-school party, and tried something new on the turntable: he extended an instrumental beat (breaking or scratching) to let people dance longer (break dancing) and began MC’ing (rapping) during the extended breakdancing.
This, marked the birth of hip hop. The music led to an entire cultural movement that’s altered generational thinking - from politics and race to art and language.
You're out of your mind be blessed tho
@@valtown67 go do your own research and stay blessed 👊🏾
Kool Herc(Jamaican) came to America in 1967 as a 12 year old kid and assimilated into Black American culture. Kool Herc was copying and emulating Black American cultural art forms and styles. The end.
@@James-lu4hb You mean kool herc copied his home Jamaican culture and shared it with Americans when he came to America. THE END!
@onpoint357 Lies! Kool Herc said that his inspiration was James Brown and Hustlers Convention. Kool Herc also said that Jamaican culture had absolutely nothing to do with anything he did in Hip Hop. Kool Herc said that he couldn't play Jamaican music in the Bronx. Kool Herc said that he wasnt a DJ and he learned how to DJ from Black Americans in NYC like John Brown. Go look up Kool Herc 1984 interview and stop lying on Herc name. THE END!
KRS is speaking to the culture including the 5 elements. Hip H😊p is not just about the music. He is actually correct. Black people were not alone in trying to end the gang fights in NY. PR was involved. This is crazy to even speak about. I'm good. Live your trueth.... I'm good.
Whatever you trying to say FBA’s created Hip Hop….PERIOD END OF THE STORY‼️‼️‼️
DJ Kool Herc was literally BORN IN JAMAICA.
And far as breaking, nobody knows who THE FIRST bboy or girl was, but Crazy Legs, a Latino was definitely among the pioneers of breaking that made it popular, so we gotta give him and the Latino community their props for that.
What's with all this reverse racism, where some black people are so insecure that they don't even wanna give credit where it's due? 🤦🏻♂️
He said himself he was Americanized and influenced by what we were already doing. He participated. These are his words, not mine.
@@S.412-q3q He’s not going to be able to deny his parentage and the influence his parents culture had on him. I am Jamaican and we have heard musicians talk about our influence in hip hop but the same can be said about your music and its influence on our music genres too. There will never be a rapper that has the type of impact of a Bob Marley so we don’t even need to claim any influence in the origin or creation of hip hop. Hip hop is just as despicable as Dancehall music here; those genres really about the destruction of our people so you guys can have that.
@@blacklight3596YOU SOUND STUPID! NAME THE JAMAICAN INFLUENCE IN HIP HOP! SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP BOB MARLEY, YOU CAN GO ON RUclips AND SEE WHERE HE SAYS OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO REPLICATE THE MOTOWN SOUND! DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIRD WORLD ISLANDERS INFLUENCED BLACK AMERICANS?! FOH!!
@@blacklight3596YOUR WHOLE ISLAND IS DESPICABLE! WHY DONT YOU CLEAN IT UP AND STOP FLEEING TO AMERICA AND BRITAIN?
@@blacklight3596 And what influence did his parents culture have on him? More importantly, influence that could have been infused into what he was doing in the BX that the masses had followed... Influence isn’t this ominous thing where vague statements can make anyone who thinks critically kneel at the feet of perception, bcus perception is feelings not facts. And influence among the two groups in questions wasn’t equal and opposite or to the same degree … There doesn’t need to be a rapper as big as Bob Marley when he wasn’t a rapper or DeeJay, Marley isn’t bigger or more impactful than a multitude of musicians and artist from Blues to Soul and Funk.
Dancehall is no where near Hip Hop’s level of popularity and Marley and Dancehall certainly arent more impactful than the musical style itself. So that comment doesn’t make much sense outside shifting for perception re feelings
Shout out to him and more Black Americans need to crack down on this because they really are in real time try to colonize hip hop
Krs 1 is a Tether. Jealous of FBA like LL cool j back in the day
Kool herc (the Jamaican) played a big part in the invention of hip hop with his sound system and two turntables and break beats etc. Thats why you’ll never see a hip hop documentary without him mentioned.
And jamaicans was doing a form of rapping before rap in the 60s 70s & 80s called "toasting" with artists ryhming over instrumentals
Exactly... Jamaican Djing (a kind of rap) was b4 hip hop rap..
So Kool Herc played a big part in the invention with his sound system (not the first to have one) and two turntables (not the first to have one). Got it.
Toasting isn’t a “form of rapping” its a form of Toasting that Americans did before Jamaicans did it…
@@jadaaleeshamindexpert7365what🙄
Not in America …
@@vcowherd39 am not sure what ur trying to say, but Hip hop was started in New York with a gr8 Jamaican influence
The reason why a lot say Jamaica because the original to rappers delight came from general echo 1974. And not to mention studio one rockers music for the rest of the chapters Pryor to that. People way before cool herc. Not to mention sound system culture with massive speakers since the late 40s. Listen to the r&b features with gangsta mc’s. Not to mention America and cowboy movies had a big influence on Jamaica
I CAN SPIT IN ENGLISH, but I'll let it go in SPANISH... a Lord Jamar lo vimos y escuchamos construir artísticamente dentro del Hip-Hop, pero escucharlo irrespetar los elementos y a las culturas latinoamericanas es como despertarse de repente de un bonito sueño, el problema es que este señor no acepta la REALIDAD ACTUAL, la realidad que muestra como toda Latino américa ama y acepta hasta el Hip-Hop que el ha hecho en el pasado.
KRS ONE nos ha dicho y enseñado con amor, no con odio, no con malas palabras, a todos los B-Boys, Emcees, DJ's, Graffiti writers acerca de un movimiento maravilloso llamado Hip-Hop.
Look..
A Methodman le ha tocado decir que no quiere ir a más conciertos como en el que se vió un poco incómodo al ver que la brecha generacional entre él y el público asistente al fest era muy grande pero también era muy muerta, aunque jóven, no apoyaron lo que llevó al escenario con Redman, PERO si lo trajeran a cualquier país latino (especialmente Colombia) LLENARÍA CUALQUIER SALA O ARENA porque SIN IMPORTAR SI ES DE USA O DE CHINA O DE RUSIA, ÉL ES HIP-HOP. piriot.
Cada vez que Onyx nos visita se van ricos y se van felices y nosotros sentimos esa gran energía que traen, porque amamos el Hip-Hop tal y como es. Hoy por hoy tenemos lo que tenemos como latinoamericanos en el Hip-Hop bien ganado, bien representado.
Los blancos de todas las culturas del mundo han sido un músculo financiero de artistas como Lord Jamar y el no lo sabe, de hecho creo que ni sabe que si viaja a México si quiera y dice eso mismo que expone en este video, inmediatamente los hermanos mexicanos le van a coger la cabeza y se la van a girar para que mire en dirección hacia el SUR del mundo... donde actualmente el Hip-Hop es más fuerte que nunca y es la plaza favorita de espectáculos para raperos estadounidenses por preferencia, solo es ir a Google trends y verán que los números no mienten.
ERROR es creer que no hay pruebas de la existencia de los latinoamericanos en los inicios del Hip-Hop, ERROR es pretender revertir los hechos pasados, ERROR es reírse de sus congéneres y peor aún creer que no entendemos lo que dicen o expresan.
El respeto de los Hip-Hoppers es REAL y nadie dijo que esto es un bonito paseo por la pradera, pero con mucho orgullo hemos puesto todo para que el verdadero sonido del Rap y nuestra cultura Hip-Hop prevalezca.
Supongo que es muy difícil para Lord Jamar admitir que los blancos de su pais o que los latinos blancos sean de la Cultura Hip-Hop, pues, invitados o no estuvimos, estamos y estaremos.
P..S: Puerto Rico is actually the less respected (hablando de rap real) by the rest of the latino Hip-Hopper nations like Chile, Colombia, Argentina, Ecuador, México, Venezuela and Perú, because of the reggaet💩 BUT WE DO NOT FORGET OUR ANSESTERS, P.R MC's were the firt ones for all of us and we still hope they keep giving us back that type of beast emcees, so don't worry about P.R, gotta watch, hear and LIVE the result of people like KRS and many more who respectfully told us about the Hip-Hop blueprint.
Peace 🍺
We all love and respect the old heads, the pathfinders, but we're part of the HIP-HOP's big bang.
100 % fact's thank you so much!
No. not 100 percent ..I wouldn't even say 20%
PRAISE YAHWEH
PRAISE YHWH BN YHWH
The Pee-Wee Herman the house parties Lord. Feed the True knowledge of Hip-Hop
Steve Martin dance black ppl made them up
Thats a lie. Your pioneers said it with their own mouth they use to listen to american artist. We was making music before Jamaica. Look it up before you speak. We created about 7 different genres....not just hip hop.
King Wurld I am truly sorry. Why I’m in time out. I sorry 😞 others say what they want
How come when the elements are talked about they always leave out the Beat Box. Now let your man hear this 😅.
What abt it?
Arthea Franklin said rock steady on wax
I like him because he say stuff nobody likes
He makes the unintelligent hate him Peace to the Gods
A great analogy is Gangsterism. The Italians created that persona, image etc. without question! The AFAM culture adopted it(more than any other culture!) Glorified it and made it attractive to the masses, without question! However the AFAM culture can't claim they created it! That would be an absolute lie! So the same for Hip Hop in comparison to any other culture. Facts are facts regardless if a claim(Lie) is popular and supported!! LJ is 💯
Yes Prince Buster in Jamaica 1950’s mc-ing over the beats, music, Riddim!!!
LIVE VOICE ON THE BEAT WHILE IT PLAYS STILL RUNNING TINGS TODAY
Krs one needed some money😂😂😂
FACTS
footage 1920. 30s.. Breaking
Jamaicans hate everybody. And we also love everybody equally.
No Jamaican think they have a hand in Hip Hop - we know where and who and we salute, AND we were too busy with our own sh!t setting our own trends all over Europe and places as far as Japan. We had OUR sound and respected the AMERICAN sound and struggle. All this sh!t is media fallout designed to do what it's doing, on the ground out here we know what what's. I can't speak for PRs cos I ain't one of dem, I speak for real Jamaicans we have never claimed Hip Hop and have always acknowledged any influence straightforward.
This is what happens when we let those "others" create the narratives- this is how they do us from day 1.
18:18 says it all
Jamaica is still a 3rd world country
Where are the 1st and 2nd worlds?
Can’t take a dude seriously that doesn’t know Puerto Ricans aren’t Spanish , people from Spain are Spanish . Preaching about reading comprehension and has zero clue about Cultural comprehension.
You are right to feel attacked. I feel the same way. B1
Bbn, U NEED 2 SEE THIS!!!
Black people are the Original man and woman. We gave birth to mathematics and thought.The heart is a bar and its beat is a rhythmic soud. We have 7 1/2' ounces of brain the Caucasian have 6 ounces. We was here before Puerto Ricons was a thought.
No matter how much education the American black man have. His black conscience teaching still got him feeling inferior. KRS is skipping over the real timeline of rap and its origin.
KRS 1 DID say that hip hop has no beginning and it has no end, dating graphitti back Africa with the paiting on the walls.
We have too separate Hip hop From Rappers It’s a Big Difference Hip Hop is a Black culture Facts
It was created by artistic purto ri and and blacks in the Bronx rapping about how it sucks to be poor in the ghetto then the white man ruined it if you not from NYC keep your 2 cents over where ever you at
How? When rappers came from hip Hop 🧐🙄
🌤️🗽🦉🇺🇲🐐🤗🖤♥️♥️💚💚💚.....🤘🏿💎 Peace God
Never awaken a sleeping giant. Be careful what you wish for.
#Grand wizard Carlos wouldn't work &,
#Grand wizard Julio wouldn't work 🤦🏾🤣🤣💀
Yooooo itz Been Years ...Pop out At the Block Party on Lincoln place.. Bedford
Takin is another one I’m side eyeing,.smh
Very good point no one says the first black person in hip hop and even if you like to believe we didn’t create hip hop we damn sure dominated it and made it popular around the world.
By your definition Kool Herc a Jamaican is credited with the first Hip Hop event. He is also considered the Father of the music. So be clear and use understanding our culture didn’t start in the US.
Lord Jamar on point with this
Also a good debate would be so tbh
Lord Jamar (black people and Sabir bey (moors)
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It's ABSOLUTELY a Black art form. A Black Sport. A Black American subculture. Yes, others participated, but Black folks created Hip Hop and a lot of it derived from Black music. Period.
Aint nothing that ends wit a CAN....created anything from scratch
Im a Latino and HIP HOP IS A BLACK CREATION plain and simple JAZZ is a Black creation ROCK AND ROLL is a Black creation RAP is a Black Creation Reggue is a Black Creation must I go on....with NO other participants in the creation.
You speaking facts they try and play all these games like Reggaeton ain’t rapping in Spanish they want to act like it’s something that’s new or like it’s something they created salsa is Cuban they stole that to PR never created anything they steal and that’s just a fact they act just like their Spaniard ancestors
Reggaeton comes from Jamaican immigrants who went to Panama to work on the Panama canal almost a hundred years ago.
Facts. I can do nothing but respect a man that stands on truth
@@jayshah9967
1. When was hip-hop created year, month, day?
2. How long after it's creation did "everyone else" come into hip-hop? 🤔
Even spanish were u think Congo and Tomball and all that's stuff from African slave mix in the Caribbean culture
13:19 "how come black people aren't allowed to have anything for ourselves?" great question
Great question
The original man is feared by all the programming of society is becoming so obvious . Jamar is standing on his square💯
Struggle Olympics. They want any part of "Black" culture that can be monetized. They want the record contract, the out of the slum success story. At the same time they want to say we have no culture. I just finished watching a video on "Black" English. None of it makes sense to me, "I don't be got no." " I ain't be" this an that. Not a Black American in the video. Some foundation will give them money to put on "Black" Face.
Remember when they disrespected and hated on us for fist bumping? Now all the whiteboys do it
Damn it's a shame that we have to defend being the creators of Hip Hop. As a matter of fact we have to defend everything we created even building America
Lord Jamar is needed
Even though Lord Jamar was NOT a "founder"? 🤔
@@Mr._Moderate yup even tho
@@Conscious_Pookie_Tee2.7 just because you agree with him does NOT mean his take is correct.
How do you know he is therefore "needed"?
@Mr._Moderate his attitude is needed, the way his unapologetic nature and devotion to his truth is needed. The way he offered to sit down without hate and handle a situation without physical violence is dope to me.. Idc what you think homie. A mf like Lord Jamar is needed in this fucc up thing "we call a culture"
@@Conscious_Pookie_Tee2.7
If he disagreed with you you'd insult him though? 🤔
Jamaicans didn’t have anything to do with hip hop most of us barely even fucked with Yankees and never paid attention to the culture or music or fashion we was rocking fishnet shirts and listening to reggae music and into clubbing hip hop was only black Americans and Puerto Ricans was guest to the culture those mfs was break dancing i came here 1979 straight from Kingston 11 into Brooklyn Newyork then we made it into jersey straight down philadelphia i was their hip hop culture was black Americans matter of fact we wasn’t even using two turntables down Jamaica back then the first time I seen a dj or sound system use two turntables was in Newyork i give credit where credit is Due
Thank you sir
@@jayshah9967 🤜🏾🤛🏾
You a fool bwoy. Hip hop and rap is 2 different things homie. If you talking about rap, some people say thank Dr Seuss and Shakespeare for that. Hip hop music different from rap, in how the music is produce, rapping on the version.
Righteous!
Salute for telling the truth. I’m a few years younger than you.
Crazy Legs said that breakin' was the "Morenos" on the documentary on Netflix. It's too late for him to switch up. Americans research and document too much for this Tethering of Black American culture.
@rotweilerscholar1181they’ve always been white boys whipping boys. Only reason they had proximity to us is because welcomed and allowed them to participate in our shit
What’s the name of the documentary?
Crazy leg from don't be a menace?
that snow head 😂
@@peacepocketThe Freshest Kids.
Cognitive dissonance is a mental discomfort that arises when a person holds two or more contradictory beliefs, values, or attitudes. This can lead to a state of tension and anxiety, as the person tries to reconcile their conflicting thoughts.
KRS-One's philosophy on the conception of Hip Hop can be compared to an interracial relationship between a black and white couple. You know racism exist but you have to PRETEND that it doesn't to keep the peace in the relationship. KRS-One has Latino and Jamaican friends in Hip Hop that he doesn't want to alienate. FBAs have to bend and fold to hold on to people who just want to EAT off of us. Our own way of thinking is why we struggle so hard financially in life.
"Krs has Latino and Jamaican friend he doesn't want to alienate." Listen to yourself. Wouldn't that imply that he knows them to have influence Hip HOP along side him? What if they influenced HIM? IN addition what part of the Black diaspora are YOU from making you think your blackness is more valid than that of a Jamaican or Puerto Rican? You havne't learned anything from Hip HOp as a lifestyle which is What it is. The music reflects the culture . Not vice versa. IF the former were the case then trap and drill would be Hip HOp and it isn't Hip Hop is made so you can LIVE. The Industry wants to fool you into an early death.
hip hop was before him which nullifies all that BS you spit🪑🪑
@@lesserlight We have receipts but all you tethers have is hurt feelings. Leeches can't live once their blood supply is cut off. We are exposing you vampires.
@@ELROYJETT Hip hops was before you immigrants arrive. You can't find no Rican influences in hip hop because none exist. You came over here and like vampires latched on to our culture. Now you want to claim it as your own. You can't shine on your own creations so hey I understand why.
100% truth, 20 more years, Eminem created hip hop 😂
Most of Pete Rock catalogue is based from FBA music. Nothing JA about his music.
Hes also known as “SouL Brother” where did he get that name from??
The musical part of hip hop took music from all over the world in the begining in ng..of course soul and rnb was a heavy influence..but so was Caribbean..brazilian.african and music from the whole world...hip hop literally samples music from around the planet
@@kingstonson9627because they where digging for records 😂😂 you take what you can out of the bargains and get shit popping. However notice when we started uses our people music how the genre took off 😂😂
Hip Hop took break beats from American artists first fuck what y'all talking bout
@@kingstonson9627Caribbean, Brazilian and African music in no way shape or form heavily influenced hip hop, particularly in its inception and does not heavily influence it now. Early hip hop artists clearly point out James Brown and his music not only as the primary influence but also as the primary inspiration. Hip Hop is a Black American cultural construct, that is why it emerged exclusively on U.S. soil not Caribbean, Latin or African soil.
@@kingstonson9627 That wasn’t Hip Hop, that was Disco tech, the sound that fueled Hip Hop’s existence was an American sound(s)
✔️ Logically, look into the current Puerto Rican culture hip hop doesn’t dominate there. Listen to the music that was playing at their Puerto Rican day parade. Did you hear James, Brown, r n b??? No!
✔️ West Indian parade do you hear R nB hip hop? All you hear is Soca and reggae?
✔️ Logically at that time it wasn’t too much of them around to even influence crap!! The language and accents??????? How could FBA gravitated to that. They didn’t care. FBA HAD THEIR OWN STYLE, struggles, food, music to worry about others. Immigrants had to come to USA to adapt not FBA adapting into theirs where language and dialects were different
Str8t Facts and underrated observation!! 💯
When you say language are you referring to English? The European invented language?.. what is the first n most relevant thing a race or group of ppl invent? Language.. even the native Americans have their own language that was almost completely stripped from them but the strength n belief in their culture is why a lot of them are currently learning that language.. the language, technology, business models hip-hop was created with n grew with is all european or at least foreign.. thing is when this debate comes up ppl only scratch the surface of what culture is.. dive deeper into culture n history. even the native Americans that witnessed Caucasians as once immigrants that overpowered them, understand that they can't completely eradicate their original language because once that happens, You could possibly lose your identity or respect as a ppl..
Good point and commonsense
James Brown was used for Breaks in Hip Hop. He isn't Hip Hop. If you say he is then in the same vien so is El Gran Combo and Willie Colon and no one is saying that either. Plus if you did attend a Puerto Rican parade youd see Puerto Ricans Darker than you who if the wren't there and could have a convo in English...think about that...with you , you would never quetion how "Black" they are. This is such a RIDICULOUS NON argument. NO Puerto Rican said or has said that this isn't a African Form of Music.
@@damonclark5742I'll ask you a question only your integrity can answer...
Does James Brown "dominate" with young black America today? 🤔
Even as a little child back then, I always wondered how they said the Jamaicans created hip hop but I never could feel nothing about no Jamaican culture and energy radiating out of any hip hop record. I always thought this was off. The Puerto Rico /Latino claims is insulting and must always be silenced 🔕 wherever this debate pops up.
That's because no one ever said this until recent times
I love this. There's a African proverb, "Until the lion tells the story, the hunter will always be the hero". Others say it, sometimes we say it, that Black people don't stick together but, when I say that the majority of us (FBA) have been on code all over, making sure that others don't try to falsely claim what's ours when it comes to Hip Hop culture. We need to stay this way and be this way about everything.
Who would proudly claim hip hop culture tho ?
@@blacklight3596 Evidently people who have no claim to it.
@@The11thchapter the replacement is serious 🧐& ppl putting capes on for others who identify white & take, & take & treatment from all democratic shields make it no better… our FBA lineage is very serious? It’s just jealous hearted ppl really think 💭 it’s their shit, but no 👎🏿 stop ✋🏿& make ur own blueprint stay out of the real black footprint 👣 settings 🛑
Facts. That’s why we have to hit the hoods in our Community and give them the game. Once our people can truly understand, they will get on Code. Can’t be on Code if I don’t know what u see, know.
Inform them on reparations, the financial system, immigration etc. They will be on Coded.
MLK and THE Panthers did the same thing. They had the info. And Put they people on what was going on, then the strategy came cause now everyone is on Coded. Grass Roots at its Finest.
Lets Finish what MLK Started with The Reparations. In 1968 He Said we coming to get OUR Check.”….. Must Get On Code. 🖤🗣
FACTZ!