one thing i realised about this tree and playing the 13 105 alot is that yes you might lose camo when firing and the fact that you have 3 shots makes it hard to unleash all 3 on a target if you wish to be a passive scout. you should play like an assassin, 1200 alpha clip, ability to self spot, low profile and a low reload makes it a less slugish version of a bat.chat 25. and its a waste to be a passive scout with 1200 alpha clip, you might as well shoot and get back on reload. the manticorre is a better passive scout
I started playing french lights over the winter, and my god are they fun. Love the 12t as both a scout and late-game hunter. Only problem is the terrible reload and somewhat slow interclip. 13 75 is a slight upgrade in all aspects, but the issue is the uptier to tier 8s with CVS/ELCs that outspot you like crazy. Might pick up the 13 57 cause that clip potential is crazy. Love these little guys.
My favorite thing about his line is that it is also crew friendly. Starting at the tier 6 you can use crew books to have a beast crew that you can carry over to the next tank for the rest of the line without problems.
Indeed, but what I meant was that the number of crew members as well as their roles and crew skills don't change. Your driver doesnt suddenly have the additional job of being the radio operator because the commander stopped being so in the next tank.
@@lukasnielsen1370 By resetting the crew skills before retraining the crew to another tank, some xp from the crew skills/perks will be used to train the crew. So you'll loose a bit of progress for a perk/skill but the crew will be at 100% training.
I 3 marked the AMX Elc Bis with the 90mm gun, its much better for spotting since the damage is high for low tiers and the reload is long enough so by the time you have reloaded, you are already unspotted
This one was my one of the firdt lines grinded. My friend said its bad bcoz autoloader light ad etc. After he watched me playing amx 12t he was amazed how good they work, we together farmed the whole line. My favourite on this tech tree is 13 75 and 13 90. 13 105 is fine but i prefer that other too more.
I've gotten many games like your first one in 12t. The tank is really good and it's fun, so a lot of decent players play it which inflates the mastery badges. Also, I find it really weird that the 13 75 has less pen than the 12t... edit: that last game was crazy! So satisfying to see such great teamwork.
Loved this video! Man those two BC games were incredible both were super entertaining, Mines is such a good map for intense close rounds. That hero TVP and shrek who was watching stream, and the not capping haha. Love it
Oh, finally AMX 12 t showed again! It's my first light tank played more seriously and somehow it works very good for me I have average 3k wn8 on it in 63 battles, but I'm not planning on going further on the line as I don't want to retrain the crew and not be able to play it anymore.
Let's go to the next high level commentary 😋. Your job is amazing, I really like these types of videos even if it's that long it is worth it to watch as always as before! 🔥
2:30 I don’t understand why you want the stock gun. It’s less effective in all cirumstances if you know how to play the elc. You need to learn how to pre aim corners of interest, keep distance and bushes to not get spotted and not play it like a light tank. At tier 5 it’s more of a spotting td.
Amazing tree, 5 to 10 are all awesome. Gems for me are the 13 75 (absolutely amazing tank) and 13 90. I love the 105 but it being tier 10 means it will always face ebrs and manticores. Its not as good for spotting but on city maps it is awesome as you can play as a baby medium. Tree overall i would rate a solid 8.5 or 9, no real bad tanks at all.
Yesterday i played lt432 for BP and i can told u one think if you know what are u doing u can outspot everythink but u need to know what are u doing and patient thats important on light tanks
Mines, surely you can win not by taking the hill; but you have more work (on average). Your Mines game was tight and your team made the last few shots count. Maybe WG knows how advantaged you are when you keep the hill. They kind of rushed up and then gave up on the hill (which helps to prove the point that the hill matters).
I love this type of video and i would love this to be a series but it is unrealistic to expect players who want to rush a tech tree line to have full equipment and good crew skills on every tank, I'm not saying this aspires to be a tree rush tutorial but I'm just pointing this out so it won't become one
Some players thru many battles are resource rich, they can afford it. It takes a while to achieve but your account becomes saturated once you reach a stage.
@iyouxin, just a question, what standard gold tanks in the store would you recommend? I won 10k gold, just wondering what to spend it on. Your recommendations would be very appreciated.
I'm not iyouxin but I'd totally recommend saving that precious gold for other stuff as there usually are multiple ways to get a tier 8 premium for free or almost free throughout the year, not mentioning the bond shop
some good credit makers in general is the t26e5 patriot, can be bought with bonds, low ammo cost and pretty well rounded. if you got the basics is a very cost effective premium thats virtually free. now if you wanna spend money/gold, the shtpk td, the lansen medium, the t-56 2 shot heavy, iron arnie medium, m54 renegade, elc even 90, a skorpion or su-130pm and lastly the bourassque are a few from each type of class, and have varied playstyles. those are the favorites ive personally played. if ever theres a buy tanks with gold event like they did with chrismas then save it for that. especially the EVEN90, BOURASQUE AND SHTPK. or else just go for therr patriot in the bond store and keep your gold for premium days, or packages that give you 5X for later grinds. hope this helps.
Also one nice tip is to play the referrals with friends and just get the VK 168.01 and use it in a trade in event so you can get the elc even for like 600 gold or just get a big discount on other tanks
I really struggle recommending because a good tank for me can me horrible for you. But I would keep hold for battle pass for example or trade in. You can trade your reward tanks (I think you can) it premium tanks you can get for bonds and pay a little good to get a premium. Or you can do a recruit program and get a premium. So keep the gold my friend
After Update 9.18 in 2017, all LTs T5 and up can use Vstabs. For Heavies and MTs this usually is T8+, but some American/British mid tiers can also mount Vstabs.
After a long time without playing and thoughts about WOT i´m back an cause i´m getting old, i need to play more tactical as before. And o Boy...YOU are amazing. Your Videos are great, funny, informative and so nice to watch. And you are a very handsome and smart Dude. Keep it. I love to watch and learn from your Videos. And your skill and Map awareness is soo good. Only Mailand and Quicky can compare with you imho. Love and Peace
I have Julia but can i change her nationality? Noob question. I'm guessing once she is assigned to german tanks she cant play French? Bar that how do you get crew with more than the standard amount of talents? ...probably another noob question.
Best light line in wot good guns u can do dmg and quiet good spoting mechanik for me t7 is best from line i have awsome games on it i think it is beter than 13 57 my best game on 13 75 is 6.2k asist wi5h 1400 dmg and 2kils on live oak
I think that's a problem tho, the damage is easily achievable for the AMX12T, they have the same gun, the only pro for the 1375 is 10M VR. The 1375 however goes up against a higher proportion of tanks approaching/achieving max VR and suffers accordingly with the tier 6 gun. For marking purposes the 12T is better, consistent stats matter. Just my opinion ofc.
@@paulrigby7135 12t have broken gun on that tier but on t7 amx it is ok 202 pene bigest problem of the tank is like 40shells of ammo u can strougle in longer batles i love 13 75 beacouse the reload clip is soooo fast that why for me is beter than 12t
Hello! The difference between the five and six guns of the Amx ELC bis tank is more than you might think, with the five gun the turret rotates almost in a circle, while with the six gun it moves as much as an isu, i.e. the turret does not move at all! In your video, you first selected the 5th cannon, but in the first replay you deceptively started with the 6th cannon, so you confuse the viewers and do not enlighten the viewers on this! I hate the six-cannon on this tank, because the turret doesn't rotate and it turns into some terrible shit, so it's easy to control, even with the mouse! Hiding in the bush, a wrong move, e.g. with the mouse, will quickly detect and fire, which is why I prefer the 5 cannons, because the tank and the turret move independently of each other, and the tank does not turn by itself if I look elsewhere with the mouse, so I remain invisible in the in the bush! I think this is an important factor for this tank, it's important to highlight! In fact, it should also be noted that the mecs meeting will introduce higher level cannons than the 6th cannon, while the smaller ones will be given to the 5th cannon, so the tank in this series is even more perfect!
Yeah firing without vertical stabs like he is, is not accurate. And the disepersion he was getting is not normal hence the Ace tankers all teh time. CC RNG ftw.
13 75 is goated. I like the reload in it way better than the BC12t but the tier 8 is still fun.
I think the 12T is stronger than 1375 but Batchat 12T is a boss
I rage sold the T7 like a year ago cause I played horribly and lost three games in a row. I wish I hadn't
@@alexandervanderelst825 it's Top of the tree right now? Discounted price?
@@paulrigby7135 Yeah, after commenting this I thought about it and rebought it. I now realise how actually really good it is.
As a guy who played on amx 13 75 today and won against 3 enemy tanks, i agree that this tech tree line is nutts
As a guy who played B-C 12t yesterday and made almost 11k combined damage and +1450 base experiance , I agree that this tech tree is nutts 😅
@@SnickeRovsky nice
@@SnickeRovskyas a guy who got 21k combined in amx 12t i agree
i ve played this years ago... Always killed by comet or cromwell
it really is a great line. I still remember learning to joust in ELC bis, before bc12t came out
one thing i realised about this tree and playing the 13 105 alot is that yes you might lose camo when firing and the fact that you have 3 shots makes it hard to unleash all 3 on a target if you wish to be a passive scout. you should play like an assassin, 1200 alpha clip, ability to self spot, low profile and a low reload makes it a less slugish version of a bat.chat 25. and its a waste to be a passive scout with 1200 alpha clip, you might as well shoot and get back on reload. the manticorre is a better passive scout
I just wish it had a little bit better gun handling, the tier 9 for me is godlike but the tier 10 gun is a bit off in comparison
@@TryhardGenos I agree had a blast witth 13 90
I started playing french lights over the winter, and my god are they fun. Love the 12t as both a scout and late-game hunter. Only problem is the terrible reload and somewhat slow interclip. 13 75 is a slight upgrade in all aspects, but the issue is the uptier to tier 8s with CVS/ELCs that outspot you like crazy. Might pick up the 13 57 cause that clip potential is crazy. Love these little guys.
Great video! Awesome games! You inspired me to start the French lights.
My favorite thing about his line is that it is also crew friendly. Starting at the tier 6 you can use crew books to have a beast crew that you can carry over to the next tank for the rest of the line without problems.
reduces it by 20% when i try to do it tho?
Indeed, but what I meant was that the number of crew members as well as their roles and crew skills don't change. Your driver doesnt suddenly have the additional job of being the radio operator because the commander stopped being so in the next tank.
@@SlayerMaster115 Ah but it still sucks that it goes down 20%, anyway to go around it?
@@lukasnielsen1370 By resetting the crew skills before retraining the crew to another tank, some xp from the crew skills/perks will be used to train the crew. So you'll loose a bit of progress for a perk/skill but the crew will be at 100% training.
1:05:25 Absolutely legendary
5:40 I was ok when they nerfed the top speed of the ELC but I can't stand the engine horse power nerf they did. It's really bad.
I 3 marked the AMX Elc Bis with the 90mm gun, its much better for spotting since the damage is high for low tiers and the reload is long enough so by the time you have reloaded, you are already unspotted
Yeah i have 96% moe on amx elc, 90mm gun is goated for sure
the tier 8 was the first tank i 3 marked. now im at 90% on the 13 105, wish me luck. thanks for all the informative vids
Good luck, first 2 marks are easy, that third one tho.....
The amx 13 line is my favorite line in the game, and was my first t10 too. Working on 3 marking each of the tanks starting from tier 5
T5 ELC was a blast. Big gun is nice but I prefer the smaller gun as you get a fully rotational turret
ELC was the first tank i loved, but i also find it pretty funny that it sounds like a ride on lawn mower
This one was my one of the firdt lines grinded. My friend said its bad bcoz autoloader light ad etc. After he watched me playing amx 12t he was amazed how good they work, we together farmed the whole line. My favourite on this tech tree is 13 75 and 13 90. 13 105 is fine but i prefer that other too more.
Great video, I think you should make an AMX 13 90 only video! I think it's better than the AMX 13 105 tier for tier.
Hi Iyouxin, that's a so amazing format i would love to see often. Thank's a lot for that
AMX ELC favourite tank back in the days, when it was matched against tier 8, a low profile assassin indeed :-)
From the best ELC bis player: well played
I've gotten many games like your first one in 12t. The tank is really good and it's fun, so a lot of decent players play it which inflates the mastery badges. Also, I find it really weird that the 13 75 has less pen than the 12t...
edit: that last game was crazy! So satisfying to see such great teamwork.
The most important thing is to do damage with your lt's. As counting on your team usually means losing
keep up the good work, a series of every tech tree would be super for every class player
The whole line from tier 6 is OP if you know what you’re doing. I also just got the AMX 13 57…I’ve been wanting that thing for years.
That ghost town play was insane
Great format, keep it up!
Excellent battles, iyouxin! Thanks for the videos.
Loved this video! Man those two BC games were incredible both were super entertaining, Mines is such a good map for intense close rounds. That hero TVP and shrek who was watching stream, and the not capping haha. Love it
34:12
You have to research the tracks to use the best gun! U cannot skip it unfortunately
Great video! Awesome games! You inspired me to start the French lights. Cheers
This will make a great series!
Did you recomend this line to start journey with light tanks ?
Yes
So letss goooo 🎉🎉🎉
can you please explain the crews each time you go up a tier as well?
июхин, спасибо. вдохновляющее видео
Excellent video! More this kind of videos, please.
like the idea of the serie, keep tanking my boy!!!
Oh, finally AMX 12 t showed again! It's my first light tank played more seriously and somehow it works very good for me I have average 3k wn8 on it in 63 battles, but I'm not planning on going further on the line as I don't want to retrain the crew and not be able to play it anymore.
series sounds perfect
this helped me so much, thank you
am i getting confused or did the elc amx used to not be able to fully rotate turret?
Correct! Now you can but with a stock gun
fresh new video'sloving it!
Let's go to the next high level commentary 😋. Your job is amazing, I really like these types of videos even if it's that long it is worth it to watch as always as before! 🔥
I play my French Lts every session, the expectation goes up and up, wasn't shocked when no Ace tanker with 6 kills,
I'd like to see all the crucial tech trees in this format
Really love this kind of videos from you, very nice experience and I hope some ideas stick with me 🙂.
stug iv , LT 15 mission , which vehicle and how ?
Best is this one,m wich one have set good mm and rng for next hours. It can be any.
what mod or settings are you using? I noticed that your crosshair is turning green if the shot is 100% penetrated.
Go to settings, reticle and in drop down menu find penetration indicator. Do for both arcade and sniper mode. You welcome 🤗
so awesomeeeee! thanks mate@@iyouxin
01:05:28 lmaoooooo best part of the video
Amazing videos,amazing play..thank you so much❤
2:30 I don’t understand why you want the stock gun. It’s less effective in all cirumstances if you know how to play the elc. You need to learn how to pre aim corners of interest, keep distance and bushes to not get spotted and not play it like a light tank. At tier 5 it’s more of a spotting td.
Another thing is you easily spot for yourself and with the camo you can choose your engagements
Amazing tree, 5 to 10 are all awesome.
Gems for me are the 13 75 (absolutely amazing tank) and 13 90.
I love the 105 but it being tier 10 means it will always face ebrs and manticores. Its not as good for spotting but on city maps it is awesome as you can play as a baby medium.
Tree overall i would rate a solid 8.5 or 9, no real bad tanks at all.
I like the format, but mainly for light/medium tanks
Your gameplay is just awesome, it looks so easy in every way...damn 😮
Yesterday i played lt432 for BP and i can told u one think if you know what are u doing u can outspot everythink but u need to know what are u doing and patient thats important on light tanks
Mines, surely you can win not by taking the hill; but you have more work (on average).
Your Mines game was tight and your team made the last few shots count. Maybe WG knows how advantaged you are when you keep the hill. They kind of rushed up and then gave up on the hill (which helps to prove the point that the hill matters).
The point is that if I try to go hill I'm gambling. And I'm ain't a gambler
Hey iyouxin, I was just wondering why you dont upload these videos to your main channel?
I have a different vision for main channel
OK, but how did that 2nd BIS game give you 600 bonds?
I love this type of video and i would love this to be a series but it is unrealistic to expect players who want to rush a tech tree line to have full equipment and good crew skills on every tank, I'm not saying this aspires to be a tree rush tutorial but I'm just pointing this out so it won't become one
Some players thru many battles are resource rich, they can afford it. It takes a while to achieve but your account becomes saturated once you reach a stage.
Soviet light tech tree please
@iyouxin, just a question, what standard gold tanks in the store would you recommend? I won 10k gold, just wondering what to spend it on. Your recommendations would be very appreciated.
I'm not iyouxin but I'd totally recommend saving that precious gold for other stuff as there usually are multiple ways to get a tier 8 premium for free or almost free throughout the year, not mentioning the bond shop
some good credit makers in general is the t26e5 patriot, can be bought with bonds, low ammo cost and pretty well rounded. if you got the basics is a very cost effective premium thats virtually free. now if you wanna spend money/gold, the shtpk td, the lansen medium, the t-56 2 shot heavy, iron arnie medium, m54 renegade, elc even 90, a skorpion or su-130pm and lastly the bourassque are a few from each type of class, and have varied playstyles. those are the favorites ive personally played. if ever theres a buy tanks with gold event like they did with chrismas then save it for that. especially the EVEN90, BOURASQUE AND SHTPK. or else just go for therr patriot in the bond store and keep your gold for premium days, or packages that give you 5X for later grinds. hope this helps.
Also one nice tip is to play the referrals with friends and just get the VK 168.01 and use it in a trade in event so you can get the elc even for like 600 gold or just get a big discount on other tanks
Also where you won that gold
I really struggle recommending because a good tank for me can me horrible for you. But I would keep hold for battle pass for example or trade in.
You can trade your reward tanks (I think you can) it premium tanks you can get for bonds and pay a little good to get a premium. Or you can do a recruit program and get a premium. So keep the gold my friend
How you can use vertical stabilizer on tier 5 lol, i thought is can only use on tier 8,9,10 ??
After Update 9.18 in 2017, all LTs T5 and up can use Vstabs. For Heavies and MTs this usually is T8+, but some American/British mid tiers can also mount Vstabs.
@@letacodilesupreme6445 thank lol, try to build AMX full bond :V
Minus - "My-nus".... not so much "Me-nus"
After a long time without playing and thoughts about WOT i´m back an cause i´m getting old, i need to play more tactical as before.
And o Boy...YOU are amazing. Your Videos are great, funny, informative and so nice to watch. And you are a very handsome and smart Dude. Keep it.
I love to watch and learn from your Videos. And your skill and Map awareness is soo good. Only Mailand and Quicky can compare with you imho. Love and Peace
My pleasure 😱
all tanks to you are the best
I just know the strenght of each of them :)
Unfortunately, you forget, that most players do not have maxed out crews.
I don't know how you brush stuff off so easily, I'd tell O-I to 'compare stats after this and whoever is lowest w/r deletes'
cause he's so good he doesn't care. At that point they're just embarrassing themselves on stream
I'm playing for fun. We all making mistakes. So I just laugh it off
This tech tree taught me from 1200wn8 to 2100wn8
Great improvement!
i like it you are the best out there
GG at mines!
THANKS :)
ELC is so OP and fun to play
And then we have 13 57 as well to train the crew ;). I really like those tonks.
Not sure about that 🦆 though haha
what kind of amx elc bis are you using where the turret rotates 360 degrees?
He used a smaller gun which enables a 360 degree rotation (110 alpha)
It's a small gun
AMX 13 75 is sooo good
Why not on main channel
I spotted over 8 k in a tier 7 in AMX 12 t and still 1. Class😅
Manticore tech tree please!
Easily the best line, got all of them marked except the 105 right now
perfect 👍
when wot decided to down grade the elc bis im was broken hearted
Yo!!! You are the best light tank player on WORLD OF TANKS!!!
😮
I’ve been trying to learn from your videos on light and medium tank play.
If only Bourrasque had this gun, or profile, or mobility and acceleration, or camouflage or….fuck bourrasque
Bro learned fir 😂😂😂 ah UA people
I didnt like the line, ive done the t100 sowjet and had alot more fun and the t100 is a beast
No AMX 40😔
I have Julia but can i change her nationality? Noob question. I'm guessing once she is assigned to german tanks she cant play French? Bar that how do you get crew with more than the standard amount of talents? ...probably another noob question.
Sadly you can't bro.
You can get girls crew from campaign missions 0bj. 260 and obj. 279.
Guns on those LTs are SO inaccurate...
It helps to skill up for that situation as much as you can, then you got to wait for the reticle to shrink enough. I don't feel too bad imho.
Guns always trolling me so hard... usually against other lights when it's most needed...
@andythoms8130 you gotta wait a touch for the bloom to settle, on the run it's a bit more hit n miss! ,
@@paulrigby7135 yeah of course but there is always them wheeled bastards that never seem to miss lol
i like this still of video
Tactical skipping of the worst tank in the game, was hoping for some AMX 40 magic it definitely needs it.
AMX is best until manti come
elc bis is better with the small gun
I'm not good with light tanks...
Come on, dude. Best light tank is Sheridan.
i mark elc with 90mm gun its better
Best light line in wot good guns u can do dmg and quiet good spoting mechanik for me t7 is best from line i have awsome games on it i think it is beter than 13 57 my best game on 13 75 is 6.2k asist wi5h 1400 dmg and 2kils on live oak
I think that's a problem tho, the damage is easily achievable for the AMX12T, they have the same gun, the only pro for the 1375 is 10M VR. The 1375 however goes up against a higher proportion of tanks approaching/achieving max VR and suffers accordingly with the tier 6 gun. For marking purposes the 12T is better, consistent stats matter. Just my opinion ofc.
@@paulrigby7135 12t have broken gun on that tier but on t7 amx it is ok 202 pene bigest problem of the tank is like 40shells of ammo u can strougle in longer batles i love 13 75 beacouse the reload clip is soooo fast that why for me is beter than 12t
only Manticore and EBR 105 😎
Thank me later
42year of premium account LOL
Hello! The difference between the five and six guns of the Amx ELC bis tank is more than you might think, with the five gun the turret rotates almost in a circle, while with the six gun it moves as much as an isu, i.e. the turret does not move at all! In your video, you first selected the 5th cannon, but in the first replay you deceptively started with the 6th cannon, so you confuse the viewers and do not enlighten the viewers on this! I hate the six-cannon on this tank, because the turret doesn't rotate and it turns into some terrible shit, so it's easy to control, even with the mouse! Hiding in the bush, a wrong move, e.g. with the mouse, will quickly detect and fire, which is why I prefer the 5 cannons, because the tank and the turret move independently of each other, and the tank does not turn by itself if I look elsewhere with the mouse, so I remain invisible in the in the bush! I think this is an important factor for this tank, it's important to highlight! In fact, it should also be noted that the mecs meeting will introduce higher level cannons than the 6th cannon, while the smaller ones will be given to the 5th cannon, so the tank in this series is even more perfect!
The switch off games after selecting a gun was a mistake and never ment to trick a viewer. Thank you for pointing at the flaw
No problem! Glad I could help!@@iyouxin
why are you still wearing a christmas sweater? (⊙ _ ⊙ )
love it
Yeah firing without vertical stabs like he is, is not accurate. And the disepersion he was getting is not normal hence the Ace tankers all teh time. CC RNG ftw.
Ok pops it's your bedtime now