The closest comparison I've seen people try to make with how broken Folderback is are when they compare it to Yugioh's Pot of Greed as a completely free, unconditional plus to you strategy. I see the comparison and for people not in the know, it does seem like a simple explanation if you just wanted to show how broken Folderback is. But the thing is; its so much worse than that. Folderback would be like if Pot of Greed did the following: -Return any amount of cards from your side of the field and from you graveyard into your deck. -Draw 5 cards. If the number of cards returned to your deck is greater than 5, draw additional cards up to a maximum of 10. -Return the game state to Main Phase 1. You can Normal Summon once more this turn. Any card effects with a limitation of "once per turn" can have their effects activated again. -Your opponent *MUST* shuffle their active field into their deck. -When this card would be sent to the graveyard, send it to the top of the deck. *THAT* ladies and gents, is what Folderback would actually look like. And yes, it is EXACTLY as broken as it looks.
TBH Folder back is way closer to something like Soul Charge in context of how BN3 is played. Its Soul Charge if its costless, summons from anywhere, didnt skip battle phase, and had an extra that lets you skip your opponent's turn and to be fair it skips the opponent turn because of how degenerate bn3 is lul
That's why i prefer to play White... Folder Back is Basically Metaknight in Brawl... so Owerpowerfull and So Broken... No thanks, i prefer to enjoy BN3 because it's my favorite one... Also, i learn to Love Balance, all thanks to the Wii U Moded Rom
I wondered why people thought 3's PVP was so bad when the game's balance is nowhere near as bad as 4's. You see, I was playing on the white version, which lacks Folder Backup. If you play on Blue, it's grotesquely broken. That's not even bringing Cust style into the picture, abusing the 11th chip glitch gives you infinite FolderBackups.
3 doesn't have cutting in either, so you can just slot in as many FlashMan or PlantMan chips as you can, spam A and hope you go befofe your opponent does.
@@ChiEXE3000 I literally just said that since you can't cut in dimming chips like you can in later games, you can just equip as many PlantMan and FlashMan chips as you can and spam A to hope you go before your opponent. And even with 4 chips that's still great, and also Team Style exists
@@ChiEXE3000 5, actually. You can have 5 mega chips. There are only four mega-class versions of a navi chip, but that just means the folder can also include a FullCust, which means it gets to Folderbak quicker, which (notably) puts all those mega chips back into the folder to be used again. And, since it puts itself back in, it can create a scenario where one or two paralyzing navi chips are used, then Folderbak is used to reset them and that gets looped while the opponent is never gets unparalyzed. And, without the time-freeze counter or state-change status restores, there's no way to respond once it goes off.
@@bestaround3323 Oh, I wouldn't know. Then again, may be a moot point considering it feels like everyone's just on BN6 PvP for the Legacy Collection...... which sucks. I can't even find ANYONE to trade with in the other games.
I think there should be a BN 3 competitive circuit for a more old school level of play with the use of Style Change be a focus. Granted I dunno if Style Changes carry to PVP cause I never found anyone to really play via Link Cable then.
You can always make a gentleman's agreement not to use FoldrBak, at least then there aren't any other broken Giga Chips _oh no he's got DarkAura._ White version really got screwed on Gigas, Navi Recycle is cool I guess but FoldrBak is EVERYTHING Recycle, it just doesn't seem fair.
The only upside that navi recycle has is that you can use it to fire off another iteration of the navi you just used, power ups and all, as opposed to having to dig through your folder again.
@@Ballade90 Oh don't get me wrong it's not useless, being able to fire off say two FlashManV4s back to back is very handy. But it still feels like White got the raw end of the deal I mean Blue even got DeltaRay.
@@Bennijin I think it's because Blue was originally made as an upgraded version of White, with minimal changes here and there. Out of all the games that have 2 versions, it's the only one that has no plot changes exclusive to its version, and the differences are the smallest.
Mmbn2 is broken with darkness no navicust to boost hp and mmbn4 to 6 is full of time freeze counters. Mmbn3 is the most balanced because it is real time and you don't get folderbak on first draw most of time
I feel like the chip would’ve been (somewhat) balanced if it the chip didn’t recycle itself and just only gave you back every other chip ONCE per match. That would’ve been more fair compared to what it actually does.
In an alternate universe, someone's waiting to deploy their ONLY folderbak at the end of their deck, occupying a slot in their hand with each turn to get the maximum use out of it, costing them an advance or something. Really makes you think how bad the 'adding itself back' aspect is.
It would still be incredibly broken tho. Just the ability to have literally all of your chips back to fuck with your opponent, when they have nothing left.
You should use Bug style for mmbn3 pvp the starting invincibility helps a lot. Mmbn4 to 6 are full of time freeze counters the opponent will always invisible or antidmg to your strong chips it's like Yugioh there
I think its kinda fucked up to think that had Folderback simply be "full cust second copy" it would already be contending for one of the better Giga chip lol
@@meowbahhytLet's just pretend for the sake of argument that insta-nuking Mettaurs in the first 10 mins of the game is an impressive feat. Folderbak is still better than any other Battlechip in this scenario because you have instant access to some very powerful Program Advances like Lifesword and Canon and Folderback can almost guarantee you access to them again, and Program Advances are much faster and just as powerful as most Giga Chips.
@@Megaman-2407 well yeah, but then you aren't that guy doing two master styles in the same turn. Obviously folderback is easily way better than navi recycle, but it has its perks
I’m tryout Mmbn 3 white as a change of pace but white really was done dirty as far as giga chips go. Straight up every version exclusive giga chip is better in blue version. Especially of course folder back. At least I’m kinda having fun with ground style.
Folder Backup, the MOST overpowered Battle Chip in the franchise.
You know how anime MCs suddenly pull a card that nets them the win in bad/unwinnable situations?
This is Plot Armor: The Battlechip.
And slot 11 is Heart of the Cards
"No! T-That's impossible!" "Screw the rules, I have FolderBack!"
The closest comparison I've seen people try to make with how broken Folderback is are when they compare it to Yugioh's Pot of Greed as a completely free, unconditional plus to you strategy. I see the comparison and for people not in the know, it does seem like a simple explanation if you just wanted to show how broken Folderback is.
But the thing is; its so much worse than that. Folderback would be like if Pot of Greed did the following:
-Return any amount of cards from your side of the field and from you graveyard into your deck.
-Draw 5 cards. If the number of cards returned to your deck is greater than 5, draw additional cards up to a maximum of 10.
-Return the game state to Main Phase 1. You can Normal Summon once more this turn. Any card effects with a limitation of "once per turn" can have their effects activated again.
-Your opponent *MUST* shuffle their active field into their deck.
-When this card would be sent to the graveyard, send it to the top of the deck.
*THAT* ladies and gents, is what Folderback would actually look like. And yes, it is EXACTLY as broken as it looks.
9/10 if you're going to do it at least put it in Problem-Solving Card Text
Folderbak is only good for secret area security it wouldn't make a starter deck good
But it's a Giga Chip, which effectively functions like how Limit 1 functions in Duel Links.
TBH Folder back is way closer to something like Soul Charge in context of how BN3 is played. Its Soul Charge if its costless, summons from anywhere, didnt skip battle phase, and had an extra that lets you skip your opponent's turn
and to be fair it skips the opponent turn because of how degenerate bn3 is lul
@@mattjayce2339, also, in LC and tournaments it have the " one per duel " rule
Ah yes, Folder Back. The only Gigachip everyone should use in BN3.
BassGS
NaviRecycle
That's why i prefer to play White...
Folder Back is Basically Metaknight in Brawl... so Owerpowerfull and So Broken...
No thanks, i prefer to enjoy BN3 because it's my favorite one...
Also, i learn to Love Balance, all thanks to the Wii U Moded Rom
@@920316player The friendship with Folder Back is over. Now all my friends are #TeamSerenade.
BN3 has both the Meta Knight of the series (Folderback) and the Korok Poop of the series (The V5 Navi Chips).
I feel like folderback adding itself back was an oversight
it wouldn't be called folderback now would it?
@@dalmnationtwitch7931 Exactly
Serenade 1 hits mmbn3 blue players folderbak is not broken in comparison
Even without that last detail, it still sounds broken as all hell!
I wondered why people thought 3's PVP was so bad when the game's balance is nowhere near as bad as 4's.
You see, I was playing on the white version, which lacks Folder Backup. If you play on Blue, it's grotesquely broken.
That's not even bringing Cust style into the picture, abusing the 11th chip glitch gives you infinite FolderBackups.
3 doesn't have cutting in either, so you can just slot in as many FlashMan or PlantMan chips as you can, spam A and hope you go befofe your opponent does.
@@akesan2374 no, you can't do it in 3, just 4 mega chips per folder
I don't know what are you talking about
@@ChiEXE3000 I literally just said that since you can't cut in dimming chips like you can in later games, you can just equip as many PlantMan and FlashMan chips as you can and spam A to hope you go before your opponent.
And even with 4 chips that's still great, and also Team Style exists
@@ChiEXE3000 you clearly don't. It's very obvious and we can see that
@@ChiEXE3000 5, actually. You can have 5 mega chips. There are only four mega-class versions of a navi chip, but that just means the folder can also include a FullCust, which means it gets to Folderbak quicker, which (notably) puts all those mega chips back into the folder to be used again. And, since it puts itself back in, it can create a scenario where one or two paralyzing navi chips are used, then Folderbak is used to reset them and that gets looped while the opponent is never gets unparalyzed.
And, without the time-freeze counter or state-change status restores, there's no way to respond once it goes off.
Folder Back being a one-time folder reload and Full Cust would be OP enough. Making it unlimited is just absurd.
True candidate for strongest chip in the series
Mid tier chip at best
....that chip is NUTS. At least the Legacy Collection didn't fix that.
It fixed it in the form of removing the 11th chip glitch
@@bestaround3323 Oh, I wouldn't know. Then again, may be a moot point considering it feels like everyone's just on BN6 PvP for the Legacy Collection...... which sucks. I can't even find ANYONE to trade with in the other games.
I think there should be a BN 3 competitive circuit for a more old school level of play with the use of Style Change be a focus. Granted I dunno if Style Changes carry to PVP cause I never found anyone to really play via Link Cable then.
You can always make a gentleman's agreement not to use FoldrBak, at least then there aren't any other broken Giga Chips _oh no he's got DarkAura._
White version really got screwed on Gigas, Navi Recycle is cool I guess but FoldrBak is EVERYTHING Recycle, it just doesn't seem fair.
The only upside that navi recycle has is that you can use it to fire off another iteration of the navi you just used, power ups and all, as opposed to having to dig through your folder again.
@@Ballade90 Oh don't get me wrong it's not useless, being able to fire off say two FlashManV4s back to back is very handy.
But it still feels like White got the raw end of the deal I mean Blue even got DeltaRay.
Bruh ya'll got Grass stage *
You're fine
@@Bennijin I think it's because Blue was originally made as an upgraded version of White, with minimal changes here and there. Out of all the games that have 2 versions, it's the only one that has no plot changes exclusive to its version, and the differences are the smallest.
Serenade is way better than dark aura which is just another 100 tacked on a mega chip requiring a hole chip.
My favorite Gigachip, Bites the Dust
Oh my, it seems to be the hit Hirohiko Araki manga series JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure part 4: Diamond is Unbreakable … Oh my.
This is the Best Academy video you've done. Great job
Oh yes, that is definitely broken, broken enough to break the foundation of the game in the first place.
Megaman in BN3 is Factually the MOST overpowered /Broken/HAX version of Megaman in All of the Battle Network Series including Darkchips and Cybeast….
Mmbn2 is broken with darkness no navicust to boost hp and mmbn4 to 6 is full of time freeze counters. Mmbn3 is the most balanced because it is real time and you don't get folderbak on first draw most of time
I wish there was a standalone soundbyte of the folderback sound effect
I feel like the chip would’ve been (somewhat) balanced if it the chip didn’t recycle itself and just only gave you back every other chip ONCE per match. That would’ve been more fair compared to what it actually does.
In an alternate universe, someone's waiting to deploy their ONLY folderbak at the end of their deck, occupying a slot in their hand with each turn to get the maximum use out of it, costing them an advance or something.
Really makes you think how bad the 'adding itself back' aspect is.
Put folderbak in the beginning deck and it doesn't do anything it relies on other chips to be good
It would still be incredibly broken tho. Just the ability to have literally all of your chips back to fuck with your opponent, when they have nothing left.
@@t-universegamer7609 as opposed to being able to do it constantly multiple times whenever you want when it suddenly appears?
Used Folderback if I had a folder without a gigachip friendly predominant code
This chip made me switch to BN6 PVP. I was Combod endlessly. Flashman then Plantman then Folderback. Rinse and repeat
6 is boring and the bs is still there. switch to 5. much less bs.
@@alicevioleta3184 doesn’t 5 have Roll Soul? I’m scared to get my chips destroyed
@@Lekeim roll soul is bn4
@@hankhill6404 oh that’s great lol I’ll check out BN5 PvP then I was just afraid of that
You should use Bug style for mmbn3 pvp the starting invincibility helps a lot. Mmbn4 to 6 are full of time freeze counters the opponent will always invisible or antidmg to your strong chips it's like Yugioh there
FolderBack is probably the Best and most Broken Gigachip Ever, and i not gonna discuss that with annyone else... XP
it's pot of greed: the battle chip.
I've used this chip in every folder, immediately after acquiring it.
I think its kinda fucked up to think that had Folderback simply be "full cust second copy" it would already be contending for one of the better Giga chip lol
I faced folderbak a lot as a Mmbn3 user and I won neg diff serenade boosted one hits blue verse
THE most busted chip ever created.
Put folderbak in a starter folder and it doesn't help it is a support chip at best or for serenade rocks. Serenade giga chip clears
@@meowbahhytLet's just pretend for the sake of argument that insta-nuking Mettaurs in the first 10 mins of the game is an impressive feat.
Folderbak is still better than any other Battlechip in this scenario because you have instant access to some very powerful Program Advances like Lifesword and Canon and Folderback can almost guarantee you access to them again, and Program Advances are much faster and just as powerful as most Giga Chips.
Or you could be that guy who misses the PA, then do it again with NaviRecycle
Eh Folder back can also do that PLUS you can choose more chip than just the PA
@@Megaman-2407 well yeah, but then you aren't that guy doing two master styles in the same turn.
Obviously folderback is easily way better than navi recycle, but it has its perks
Shine on you crazy diamond
Use this Giga Chip and your opponent Bites The Dust.
Dio: No using Bites the Dust to go back in time to make sure you win.
Kira: Okay I won't. Gonna use FolderBack though.
Dio: Don't you dare!
I’m tryout Mmbn 3 white as a change of pace but white really was done dirty as far as giga chips go. Straight up every version exclusive giga chip is better in blue version. Especially of course folder back. At least I’m kinda having fun with ground style.
I'm not so sure about that. Maybe on their own, but White's gigas get to instantly lethal with only a little setup.
Serenade is my go-to.
Alpha sigma, serenade, bass are way better than blue giga folderbak doesn't win pvp games
The only reason I play blue version tbh
Same
Ehhh pretty boring if it too easy though
@@Megaman-2407 You could always use BugStyle to make it more even. The movement bug really pisses me off when I get it.
Blue versions missed the experience of the stronger giga chip Serenade
beutiful editing, fuck folder back though is to single player centered...and even then.
didnt even know there was a final turn
Oh god, this legendary item-
My favorite giga chip for boss fights
funi thumbnail got me going 🥴🥴🥴🥴
Huh Neat
folder back is work other giga chip with navi cust in giga folder and your folder in a second giga chip?
Doesnt it also bring back the opponent's folder in PvP? Last thing you need to do is give your enemy more ammo.
No
This isn't Yu-Gi-Oh, your chips don't help your opponent in BN.
@@kakashihatake313 Well...unless you use Mine, AreaGrab, then accidentally step on your own mine.
@@kakashihatake313They actually help, when folder back is used both your Chips and the enemy's Chips come back
@@bestaround3323Yes*
Thats insane
nice guide
Do bn3 shotmet. Know idea how to make it work
I thought that was nerfed...
Epic Jojo reference
this chip i only the blue version i playing :) bn3 white navi cycle giga chip substitute very shit.
BRO WAT IS THIS??!!!!!! HOW DO PPL PLAY 3????