The Most Disappointing Nation in Football History

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  • Опубликовано: 13 дек 2024

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  • @louisjwiese5515
    @louisjwiese5515 23 дня назад +285

    A brilliant team does not necessarily necessitate brilliant players. You just need players that are good enough, but can fit together into a cohesive unit that works in a highly effective manner together.

    • @NeilLewis77
      @NeilLewis77 22 дня назад +17

      yet all the brilliant teams have brilliant players.
      not a single succesful international team has achieved anything without super stars except for that one greek team for 6 games.
      every single one of the past 22 world cup winning teams have had super stars.

    • @SouthamptonCentral
      @SouthamptonCentral 22 дня назад +7

      I think England had that in 2021 and 2022. Just got a bit unlucky in the end

    • @damirvujevic2685
      @damirvujevic2685 22 дня назад +5

      @@NeilLewis77 Italy 2020. Germany 2014. Croatians '98, 2018., 2022., (2023.) no superstars.

    • @michaelola1621
      @michaelola1621 22 дня назад +12

      ​@@damirvujevic2685 I definitely do not agree with those picks there. Germany 2014 was one of the strongest and dominant team out there with players that one the champions league and played for elite teams.
      Croatia 2018 had superstars as modric, kovaicic and perisic to name a few.
      And italy you could say that most of the well know player where past their prime. But there weren't many players who could say are superstar.
      But to put germany 2014 in there is criminal

    • @Skibidisigmaking2429m
      @Skibidisigmaking2429m 21 день назад +10

      ​@@damirvujevic2685all of the countries you mentioned had superstars

  • @lorenzoFCIM1908
    @lorenzoFCIM1908 23 дня назад +418

    The problem with England, is that they've always over hyped their players, only for them not to perform to thee high expectations they set for them.

    • @hessen5498
      @hessen5498 23 дня назад +38

      Thats Not the Problem in the slightest. Just a myth

    • @lorenzoFCIM1908
      @lorenzoFCIM1908 23 дня назад +21

      @hessen5498 yes it is, the premier league is not the best league in the world, just a high spending league

    • @hessen5498
      @hessen5498 23 дня назад +42

      @@lorenzoFCIM1908 Its by far the most competitive and talented League in the world

    • @Emzy2217
      @Emzy2217 23 дня назад +22

      @@hessen5498talented? Yes. Competitive? Hell no.

    • @doncarloancelotti2256
      @doncarloancelotti2256 23 дня назад +18

      ​@@hessen5498 yes, thanks to foreign export 😂

  • @adammac4960
    @adammac4960 23 дня назад +174

    I think the problem with England is the media and the expectation. I don’t think any other team in the world gets as much pressure from the fans and media as the England players. Like Sven said. In Italy he was judged only by his football. In England your life gets torn apart both private and professional. Like what the f*ck has affairs got to do with football? Too much political bullsh*t for a team that hasn’t won a trophy since 1966.

    • @bonfacemarube6196
      @bonfacemarube6196 23 дня назад +9

      I couldnt agree more.

    • @mariusciolacu9820
      @mariusciolacu9820 20 дней назад +4

      True, the media in England is cancerous. For players and morale especially. But, strangely, it's also one of the reasons for why the Prem is doing so good (as in, number of views, etc). So yeah, it's a strange one...

    • @MrKrewie
      @MrKrewie 20 дней назад +10

      They absolutely crucified Beckham for that red card

    • @adammac4960
      @adammac4960 20 дней назад +9

      @@MrKrewie yes I know and let’s be honest they were not good enough to win that tournament. Not with the way Brazil and France were playing. What the fans did to beckham was disgusting.

    • @MrKrewie
      @MrKrewie 20 дней назад +5

      @@adammac4960 yeah that brazil squad was like activating cheats in a video game, absolutely insane squad

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 23 дня назад +138

    Only because England had a brilliant team on Paper in 2002, 2004, 2006, 2010, it doesn’t mean it’s all going to come together.

    • @jrothweldo7
      @jrothweldo7 23 дня назад +8

      You could of told us this 20 years ago

    • @abdullahmuizzudinselamat8406
      @abdullahmuizzudinselamat8406 19 дней назад +12

      ​@@jrothweldo7 you could've just figured it out yourself

    • @ceoofmanwha3279
      @ceoofmanwha3279 19 дней назад

      blud it's simple figure it out yourself ​@@jrothweldo7

    • @tristanwhite3472
      @tristanwhite3472 18 дней назад +1

      Thanks for all the thumbs up.

    • @jrothweldo7
      @jrothweldo7 18 дней назад

      @@abdullahmuizzudinselamat8406 idiot

  • @Sparkledash1
    @Sparkledash1 23 дня назад +79

    As a german, i am always fascinated by Englands wish to get into a tournament, thinking that its their god given right to win the big one, because all their players play in the best league, meaning they are all automatically world class players.
    Germany for example never won trophies because their team was full of world class players (with a few exceptions) but because of their team mentality. The team of 1996 was a good example. We had constant injury issues, but we still managed to win it, because of our unity and will to fight. There are no egos in the team.

    • @SouthamptonCentral
      @SouthamptonCentral 22 дня назад +16

      This is such a strange myth. We don’t think that we have a god given right and most of the time we are just supporting are team and often we have a good chance of winning and deserve to be among the favourites. Every fan talks with bais and hope about their own nation. But it’s coming home is not some arrogant statement of superiority that is supposed to be taken seriously.

    • @mariusciolacu9820
      @mariusciolacu9820 20 дней назад +1

      ​@@SouthamptonCentraltake it from a foreigner living in the UK: it totally was arrogance. Now the english play it like it was just a joke, but if they would've won it, suddenly, not a joke anymore. And yes, other teams have biases too, but none as big as the english. Their supporters are hated all over the world exactly for that arrogance and disregard for other people's cultures and fans. And when you get called out: "it's just jokes, mate".
      It's not coming out of the blue. The hate is well-deserved.

    • @JamesCM86
      @JamesCM86 20 дней назад +7

      God given right ?? What an earth are you talking about? Perception is not reality, and no English player has ever talked about a ‘god given right’. Think

    • @turtle27835
      @turtle27835 19 дней назад +8

      Why do all Europeans have these weird delusions about English people. We're probably the most pessimistic fans on the planet, we don't ever expect to win anything. The whole its coming home chant is just a joke at this point. Its like when the Euro's was happening, on the euros reddit page under every single post about the English team, most of the comments were about how arrogant English fans are. Even though about 99% of the English comments were being very positive and complimenting the other teams. The Germans and Scottish were 10x worse then the English but they don't get anything said about them. Also i don't get that point of "they play in the best league so they automatically world class". Our team is world class, on paper, we arguably have the best team in the world. Our players do not work together and they never have. We've always been held back by terrible management or players not being able to put their club rivalries aside.

    • @sieteocho
      @sieteocho 19 дней назад

      In other words, when Germany has high expectations going into a tournament it's because they just have a better team mentality than everybody else. When England has high expectations going into a tournament, it's because they think it is their god given right to win the big one.

  • @tomrom-u1g
    @tomrom-u1g 20 дней назад +95

    Overhyping their own players is the greatest mistake

    • @joshuabrown2134
      @joshuabrown2134 17 дней назад +8

      thank you... like wtf is a golden generation... and in the first 10 seconds he says or were the other teams just better... precisely. saved me the whole video.. i just came to comment.. but yt brits just think theyre gods gift to the planet.. this is why the world used to hate britian and now theyre starting to get on our nerves again in the states especially now that they wanna act like they created rap music...

    • @Insideman666
      @Insideman666 8 дней назад

      @@joshuabrown2134 it’s okay they’ll never win anything because even though in their arrogance they claim to have “invented football” they are simply not good at it so just enjoy watching their people arrogantly claim viciously from the start and the flopping miserably. Like the faces of English fans after every single tournament is priceless, as an Italian especially i crack a smile every time you hear them say “it’s coming home” cuz that pretty much guarantees they will get embarrassed 😂 its every single time ! I love it 🤣🤣

    • @fernandovargas5338
      @fernandovargas5338 7 дней назад +2

      Exactly, the way they talked about Bellingham, Foden, and Saka as if they are all the best players anyone has seen, is a clear indication to overhyping. None of those is top 3 in the world in their position

    • @J725_6
      @J725_6 6 дней назад

      A golden generation has to prove their talent. A perfect example of a golden generation is Spain 2008-2012.

    • @eriklakeland3857
      @eriklakeland3857 4 дня назад

      @@fernandovargas5338especially Foden. My grandad could notch double digit goal involvements on some of those Man City teams.

  • @cheech7900
    @cheech7900 21 день назад +45

    Its not a curse, we just weren’t good enough, either, tactically or with ability. The last English coach to win a top flight league title in England, was Howard Wilkinson in the 1991- 1992 season with Leeds United, The Premier League will be 33 years old at the end of this season and no English manager has ever won that title. Kevin Keegan was the closest.

    • @sr3821
      @sr3821 11 дней назад +1

      England had Fabio Capello, one of the greatest managers at his time. Somehow they still managed to screw it.

    • @chr1225
      @chr1225 10 дней назад

      @@sr3821 and they had Sven Göran Eriksson, also won nothing...ok, it were mostly losses on penalties against Portugal 2004 and 2006.

    • @weekendwarriorprospecting817
      @weekendwarriorprospecting817 5 дней назад

      The biggest disgrace is never employing Brian Clough. The goat 🐐 of football management 💯

    • @cheech7900
      @cheech7900 5 дней назад

      @ Clough and Taylor, were the goat, together, something incredible but individually, they never scaled the same heights as together. Clough never got the England job because 1st interview, he was up against Don Revie, considered the greatest English manager at the time, he took the England job of the back of leading, Leeds to the title. Then Clough took his place at Leeds. Under Revie, England failed to qualify for the 78 World Cup and Don Revie jumped ship for more money at the Saudi National Side, very controversial at the time, at a time England looked to step away from controversy, Cloughie was never of the Telly. Controversial opinions were his bread and butter, so Ron Greenwood got it, highly respected, developed many members of the 66 World Cup winning squad and knew how to play the FAs politics. A steady hand, so to speak and by the time, Bobby Robson got the job, Robson was the rising star, with 2, consecutive 2nd place finishes to Bob Paisleys Liverpool and Clough, seen as the past. Sad but true, Clough should have been given the job after Revie quit but if he had, he’d never have won the league with Forest snd lifted the European cup in consecutive seasons. Its a Catch 22, he’s the goat because he a achieved that, if he’d got the England job at the height of his pomp, his greatest achievement as a manager, would have never occurred.

    • @mustiesalop123A
      @mustiesalop123A День назад

      He was the last to win the English top flight, mcclaren won the German title with Wolfsburg and the Dutch title with Twente since, Gerrard also won the Sottish title

  • @xzl2284
    @xzl2284 18 дней назад +23

    England is the perfect example of the saying "They are not a good team, they're just 11 good players playing together". Idk who said it but it's true

    • @ultralightpablo
      @ultralightpablo 7 дней назад +3

      and sometimes all 11 of them aren’t even that good

  • @PODTIER
    @PODTIER 22 дня назад +32

    Joe Cole had the best take. Patterns of play. It's mostly been individual brilliance with rare sightings of team fluidity that leads to chances.
    They don't need a star at every position, they need the right fit at every position.

  • @FazalRezzam
    @FazalRezzam 22 дня назад +27

    The problem is the people In the background, some players pass their peek (Harry kane) and still start every game, Palmer form was next level all season and he's on the bench, England need to be more fair to their players regardless of their colour belief or political view. It does not surprise me that they choose week managers that are easy to control.

    • @SantomPh
      @SantomPh 18 дней назад +2

      the FA does the selection, and the FA is half non-football- marketing, diversity champions, data analysts, image consultants, dubious "advisors" , people who consult media pundits for advice and commentators who go on and on about nothing football related like where the manager should come from.

    • @minidragonito
      @minidragonito 17 дней назад +3

      Harry kane just became better in bundes
      He is more on his prime than ever

    • @FazalRezzam
      @FazalRezzam 17 дней назад

      @minidragonito haha yeah his penalties are good. The euros have past now too.

    • @minidragonito
      @minidragonito 17 дней назад

      @@FazalRezzam penalties are part of the game unless you want he miss them
      Rn he got 85 g/a in 63 matches for bayern

    • @FazalRezzam
      @FazalRezzam 17 дней назад

      @minidragonito did i say he was bad at penalties lol

  • @Trending_News_Kenya
    @Trending_News_Kenya 23 дня назад +74

    Tuchel could actually be the man to win a trophy for England. See, winning trophies, which are played for in around 5 games, does not require you to have a golden generation. It just needs a cohesive team packed with players with strong mindsets. and, of course, who are willing to go to the mad with opponents when need be. and who is better to inculcate that, other than Tuchel? I believe that is how Argentina won the 2022 worlcup. And actually, that is how italy won euros vs. a far better england team than they were back in 2020.

    • @Dee-jd8vc
      @Dee-jd8vc 23 дня назад +17

      Yeah. Argentina doesn't have that many superstar player. They also lost many important matches on penalties. But the team right now are hungry for a win, have high fighting spirit, a cohesive team, and a good goalkeeper on penalties. England need to work on that mindset for the future.

    • @revolusimelayu
      @revolusimelayu 23 дня назад +4

      Tuchel can win FA cup for England 😂

    • @NkosanaMakhubele
      @NkosanaMakhubele 23 дня назад

      ​@@Dee-jd8vc I'm rooting for them and I'm not English😂

    • @Al-ji4gd
      @Al-ji4gd 23 дня назад +4

      but that's the thing, WERE they far batter? Italy had the best goalkeeper, Italy had the two best defenders, Italy had the best midfielder in Verratti and Barella. The only thing England had was Harry Kane.

    • @yoshiwoollyworld
      @yoshiwoollyworld 22 дня назад

      @@Al-ji4gdengland had the better team but a garbage manager

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 23 дня назад +21

    It’s shame Scholes Retired after Euro 2004 we needed him in 2006 and we missed him.

    • @Marta1Buck
      @Marta1Buck 22 дня назад +2

      Maybe he thought "hmm .. lampard and Gerard, they'll be fine" then retire

    • @tristanwhite3472
      @tristanwhite3472 20 дней назад +1

      @@Marta1Buck yes

    • @Ping-r6j
      @Ping-r6j 14 дней назад +1

      His presence could have made a difference?

    • @tristanwhite3472
      @tristanwhite3472 14 дней назад +1

      @Ping-r6j Yes it could off.

    • @tristanwhite3472
      @tristanwhite3472 14 дней назад +2

      @Ping-r6j Problem is Sven Goran Erickson propably wouldn't of been prepared to drop Lampard. He would want to get them all in.

  • @LeoDragon34
    @LeoDragon34 20 дней назад +15

    It’s not a curse, it’s a combination of over-expectation by the media and the inability of the players to handle the pressure, for whatever reason(s).

  • @philipjohn1254
    @philipjohn1254 23 дня назад +34

    I will always say that Euro 2004 was the one that got away for that generation. So many what ifs in the Portugal QF - what if Rooney had not gone off injured, what if Campbell's late goal had counted, what if Beckham had scored his penalty.

    • @johnthompson457
      @johnthompson457 23 дня назад +4

      Agreed. Although in euro 96 they were Gazza’s stud away from being immortal.

    • @Li8mBenz
      @Li8mBenz 23 дня назад

      Did Campbell score a late goal in this one? He scored a golden goal against Argentina in 98 but it was disallowed

    • @philipjohn1254
      @philipjohn1254 23 дня назад +3

      @@Li8mBenz the same happened here, though it was in normal time. Ref ruled he obstructed Ricardo when he jumped.

    • @Li8mBenz
      @Li8mBenz 23 дня назад

      @@philipjohn1254 he had some bad luck then

    • @Al-ji4gd
      @Al-ji4gd 23 дня назад +1

      @@johnthompson457 which was also undeserved because they should've gone out vs Spain

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 23 дня назад +11

    It was looking good in Euro 2004 for England but we still couldn’t beat the big teams we lost 2-1 against France in the group stage. A game we should have won!!

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 23 дня назад +17

    Portugal were the better team after Rooney Went off injured on 24 minutes. Rooney was the stand out player the focus player in attack who made things happen scored goals had great pace and skill and vision. We couldn’t build on the Momentum after Rooney went off injured we missed him badly. Sol Campbell disallowed goal though that shouldn’t of been disallowed!

  • @sagnikdey4880
    @sagnikdey4880 23 дня назад +11

    Very well explained!!

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 23 дня назад +11

    We lost against Portugal in Euro 2004 another strong team top quality players and they had a strong defence. We cant deal with it.

    • @businesssecretsofthepharao8901
      @businesssecretsofthepharao8901 22 дня назад +1

      We had a perfectly good goal disallowed and had an on fire Rooney taken off injured.

    • @tristanwhite3472
      @tristanwhite3472 18 дней назад +1

      @@businesssecretsofthepharao8901 yes very True about the Campbell goal and Rooney being on fire.

    • @tristanwhite3472
      @tristanwhite3472 18 дней назад +2

      @@businesssecretsofthepharao8901 That Referee is still saying he made the right decision disallowing the goal.

    • @HecticPortugal
      @HecticPortugal 10 дней назад

      @@businesssecretsofthepharao8901 Thanks Rooney 😉

  • @JoePubliktv
    @JoePubliktv 23 дня назад +10

    We. Always. Bottle it. The fans. The players. We were 1-0 up against Italy, at Wembley, in the final, 2020 euros, and you could hear a pin drop. We should have been rocking that stadium!!!! Just enjoy the occasion and support your team. Fuck the expectations

    • @businesssecretsofthepharao8901
      @businesssecretsofthepharao8901 22 дня назад

      What are you on about it was rocking? Was just bad tactics that let us down.

    • @JoePubliktv
      @JoePubliktv 21 день назад

      watch it again! When Italy started getting back into the game we went silent

    • @bangrojai
      @bangrojai 13 дней назад

      Euro 2020 was the biggest chance England would win something. Too bad, Italy got all the mentality to win it. The Sampdoria golden generation desperately wantes to wipe their horror of Wembley. The players didnt fail their managerial team.

    • @peterfighter
      @peterfighter 8 часов назад

      England did not bottle the final against Italy. England did nothing apart from the early goal. Italy were a better team for remaining 118 minutes. If someone could bottle this game, it's Italy. Where that undermining Italy comes from?

  • @zacharywerner5745
    @zacharywerner5745 20 дней назад +2

    great video !

  • @RyanMK666
    @RyanMK666 4 дня назад +2

    The golden generation cared more about club football then their country, and a lot of people (fans) also agreed with that during that generation.

  • @leonpaul9443
    @leonpaul9443 21 день назад +2

    I think as an Englishman our failure has been the expectation that our high octane physical 100 mph style would work at international level.

  • @andrewpaton2683
    @andrewpaton2683 3 дня назад +2

    Never had the right manager.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 23 дня назад +2

    Great Video Thanks.

  • @badabing8884
    @badabing8884 21 день назад +3

    Not a curse. The biggest impediment to the national team is the separation of ownership and control of the England team. The clubs and national association have been separate since 1872. There is no incentive for the clubs to develop English players to play for the national team. They are rinsed and overplayed like Chattels. No singular style of play either. All contribute to under performance at each major tournament.
    Good luck Tuchel, you’ll face the same problems as every single manager since Sir Alf. And he was damn lucky to win back in 1966.

    • @dronesclubhighjinks
      @dronesclubhighjinks 18 дней назад

      I have never heard this opinion before, so it's very interesting!
      I feel bad for Southgate, considering all the good he did for the team. Can't imagine why any Englishman would want that job given the amount of pressure and insane toxicity from the media and most fans.
      At least, if Tuchel fails, he can leave the country and not think about it any longer.

    • @Samson-h6l
      @Samson-h6l 8 дней назад

      How many of the clubs are still even English?

  • @Souru_TV
    @Souru_TV 22 дня назад +6

    Ya know as a german, if england actually won anything it would be a two sided blade. On one hand englnd win something, which we well don't really want. On the other hand if Tuchel won them something it would mean it took a german to do something an english man couldn't. I really don't know, if i would rather them not win anything and be in anyway extremely obnoxious or if i want them to win so i can ruin it for them by reminding them of the fact that a german was responsible.

    • @arjungovindan1642
      @arjungovindan1642 22 дня назад +1

      That’s an easy choice, pick england losing.

    • @EliasRoy
      @EliasRoy 18 дней назад

      The Royal family is literally German 😂😂😂😂

    • @dronesclubhighjinks
      @dronesclubhighjinks 18 дней назад

      This is quite a dilemma!

    • @Harry-tb8yo
      @Harry-tb8yo 18 дней назад

      I never thought about this but according to statistics the chance of national teams coached by someone from another country winning a trophy is very small. At least when it come to the European Championship and the World Cup. Every world cup winning team had a manager from the same country. To my knowledge Otto Rehhagel was the only one who won a trophy with a "foreign" national team.
      For me the solution is very simple. Germany should win. 😁

    • @taykitrleevitt4314
      @taykitrleevitt4314 17 дней назад

      Football is full of mercenaries; why should it matter who plays for or coaches the national side?... Bayern Munich dominated the domestic league and have won numerous Champions League trophies... when was the last time they won it with an all German team and manager?

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 23 дня назад +3

    England were amazing against the Dutch in Euro 96 what a great performance!

  • @CHPH-bDL
    @CHPH-bDL 20 дней назад +2

    Getting knocked out by any generation of German national team(they have four complete sets of World Cup medals), Brazil with Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho, Portugal's "golden generation" twice, Croatia with players like Modrić and Rakitić, Italy as 4x World Champion; it's not that awful. Somebody had to win those games.

  • @lwandomadikizela2213
    @lwandomadikizela2213 22 дня назад +4

    The problems for England failing in major tournaments is player profiles, tactics and coaches.
    The Golden Generation from 2002-2008 had world class players from every position but the problem was to implement the right system to get the best out of them. Gerrard and Lampard couldn't play together since they were similar players and Sven(RIP) didn't start Barry or Carrick to complement Lampard or Gerrard. 2008 is when the Golden Generation ended when England failed to qualify for Euro 2008.
    The Rock Bottom Generation started between 2010 and 2016 when England became the laughing stock. Barely made it out the group stage in South Africa only to get smashed by the Germans albeit Lampard's goal should have stood. Euro 2012 lost on penalties again to eventual runner up Italy. World Cup 2014 England finished dead last in the group stage after failing to win a single match. Euro 2016 England achieved true rock bottom with unconvincing performances in the group stages and that horror show against Iceland with Kane taking corners and Rooney being passed his best. Hodgson was the worst coach to lead England to glory and it showed.
    The Renaissance Generation came when Southgate installed belief in the players and nation with deep runs in major tournaments. 2018 they made the semi finals but lost out to Croatia. Euro 2020 it should have never went to penalties in the final and I blame Southgate for throwing Sancho, Rashford and Saka under the bus for missing their spot kicks. Southgate proved he was never the guy to win the big prizes and World Cup 2022 England lost out to then World Champions France in the quarter finals. Amid reaching the final in Euro 2024, England were unconvincing in all their games and they had close calls against Slovakia and Switzerland but in the end lost to the current European Champions Spain in a convincing manner amid Palmer equalizing. Now England has a proven winner in Tuchel but can he deliver the titles England craved for since 1966? England has yet to win the Euros and England has never reached a World Cup final since they won it. Can World Cup 2026 be that year England shock the world? Time will tell.

  • @L1STERINE
    @L1STERINE 21 день назад +2

    Southgate bought hope back into English football. I remember watching the 2006 world cup with my dad and it felt so gutting to see us go out. Every tournament after that was torture watching us lose.
    Southgate arrives and we are consistently reaching semi's/finals. I get his playstyle wasn't for everyone (AKA leaving it to the latest possible moment) but the feelings and emotions from those last games of winning the shootouts, getting to the semi's/finals I think all england needed to realise we CAN do it.

    • @dronesclubhighjinks
      @dronesclubhighjinks 18 дней назад

      I'm not from the UK. As an outsider, it seems the English media and many of the fans are full of festering hate for the England men's team, the individual players, and the manager.
      It's almost at the point where I wonder how they would react if England does win a major tournament.
      The amount of abuse Southgate got was ridiculous and sickening. It's not only the media either. Look up the subReddit "three lions" during Euro 2024.
      I can't imagine why any Englishman would want the job of managing the team. And I understand now why Musiala chose to play for Germany - although England is having its best years in 60 years whereas Germany is having its worst spell since 1940s.
      Very glad to meet an England fan who appreciates Southgate. 🤝

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 21 день назад +3

    We didn’t play good possession football we didn’t play as a team. We couldn’t keep the ball for very long always loosing it. Losing it in the final 3rd to often. We keep the ball for a bit but we didn’t do anything with it. We didn’t create anything we didn’t create any chances opportunity’s. We found it hard to break teams down.

  • @prashantkhadka5085
    @prashantkhadka5085 23 дня назад +18

    England's every player is over hyped
    Starting from Beckham
    They should have signed for Hollywood or compete in some fashion contest

    • @jondickinson2864
      @jondickinson2864 23 дня назад +5

      Beckham looked like a Bellend but his range of passing was second to non

    • @Al-ji4gd
      @Al-ji4gd 23 дня назад +3

      @@jondickinson2864 And that's about it. IN every other category he was decent at best.

    • @liamthomas-fn7fc
      @liamthomas-fn7fc 7 дней назад +1

      Beckham was actually good though Madrid signed him for £25 million in 2003.

  • @Jacob-wu3if
    @Jacob-wu3if 7 дней назад +1

    If Southgate had some balls, he probably would’ve gotten trophies but hey! Loves parking the bus.

  • @rayfootblogs
    @rayfootblogs 22 дня назад +1

    England's only problem is they're one of the most over-rated nations in football history because let's face it, the media make their players and managers out to be much better than they actually are. No wonder England haven't won a major trophy for over 50 years and counting despite all the previous eras of golden generations.

  • @Tout-Le-Monde02
    @Tout-Le-Monde02 14 дней назад +16

    England never had a "golden" generation ..... their players were never that good at international level ..... only british media considers them "golden generation" ......

    • @kobe2kallday
      @kobe2kallday 6 дней назад

      Their players were that good internationally infact their 11 was better than good but that's their problem only having a world class 11 and also them over hyping all their players and expecting to win everything every time never help

    • @thato596
      @thato596 3 дня назад

      Yes you are right. england players are over hyped

    • @KieranTheCatboy
      @KieranTheCatboy 2 дня назад

      We have that kind of generation again, England could of EASILY won Euro 2024 if it wasn’t for fucking Southgate.

  • @simontravers2715
    @simontravers2715 19 дней назад +2

    Just to put into context how underwhelming England are historically, if u put them in a fantasy International league season with the best 24 countries ever, and could pick any players past or present to combine a squad, they’d struggle to even finish top 5, let alone threaten the top! Brazil, Spain, Italy, Germany, France & Argentina are so much stronger in depth (Argentina lack the elite level of GKs but Messi/Maradona/Aimar/Riquelme/ Cambiasso/Aguero/Veron/ Tevez/Batistuta/Crespo/Zanetti/ Ayala/Samuel/Heinze etc would MORE than make up for that!!)

  • @Kizzster
    @Kizzster 20 дней назад +1

    The biggest fumble was not playing Trent in 2 major tournaments.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 20 дней назад +1

    The one against Italy in the Euro's was the one we definitely should of won it was the biggest opertunity missed to win the Euro's and Euro 96 and Euro 2004.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 20 дней назад +5

    Spain weren't fancied before the Euro's but they won it.

    • @oKnuTo
      @oKnuTo 11 дней назад +2

      depens on who you ask they won the nations league and were on a incredible run leading into euros simliar to italy who were like 30 games unbeaten heading into 2020.
      yeah france and england had better squads of paper but the best team were clearly Spain maby Germany, but there was a drop off after that.

    • @tristanwhite3472
      @tristanwhite3472 11 дней назад

      @oKnuTo Agree.

  • @theslash9210
    @theslash9210 23 дня назад +5

    Its funny actually not the biggest english fan but they always had the best shooters of the game right from the time of bobby charlton to steven gerrard and not to forget the best penalty expert matt le tissier ...still they often lose on penalties😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @bonfacemarube6196
    @bonfacemarube6196 23 дня назад +8

    I forsee the "curse" lingering into the far future as long as the English media and fanbase wont let the players be.

    • @dronesclubhighjinks
      @dronesclubhighjinks 18 дней назад

      Lord yes ... The media and most of the fans are frothing at the mouth-level
      enraged. Even when the team is winning! "Too boring". "The best results in 60 years are not good enough because we didn't win. Nobody cares about second place." ☠️

  • @prasannabalaji1886
    @prasannabalaji1886 23 дня назад +30

    Overlooking carrick was the biggest mistake, system over stars

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 21 день назад +1

    Best team on paper but not on the pitch. Even against teams like Trinidad and Tobago we struggled and Ecuador and other poor teams.

  • @SeraphTawah
    @SeraphTawah 18 дней назад +1

    Southgate fumbled as a player and as a manager twice

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 22 дня назад

    We really struggled after Rooney went off injured against Portugal we lacked that Spark in attack a player which made things happen that pace and vision creativity movement link up play. He was the main focus with England in attack.

  • @Kat-fd7ff
    @Kat-fd7ff 20 дней назад +1

    The answer is really simple: ego.

  • @merenmeso7848
    @merenmeso7848 14 дней назад +1

    The problem is they attach too much to club..and as for the nation they hardly click

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 21 день назад +2

    Gerrard and Lamaprd were Outstanding for there Clubs. But playing together with England in Midfield was totally different. Didn't work.

  • @Lamebred.
    @Lamebred. 5 дней назад

    There is always huge pressure on certain players to carry the team and deliver. Gazza, Shearer, Beckham, Owen, Rooney, Kane, Foden Saka and Bellingham in Germany. If form continues the pressure Palmer will have at the next tournament will be outrageous.

  • @religdeb
    @religdeb 21 день назад +1

    It's also worth putting things into perspective.
    Spain went over 40 years without winning a trophy after winning a pretty worthless Euros in 1964 which many teams didn't even bother to play in (including England who didn't bother).
    From 1930 until 1998 France only won one Euro cup.
    The Dutch with the great teams they've had over the years still has a worse trophy cabinet than England (only has one euro cup and no world cup)
    I could go on. The point is, have England underperformed in it's tournament campaigns for it's size as a football nation? Yes but nobody has a divine right to win anything and in knockout football tournaments sometimes you just need a bit of luck to win a trophy which historically has never really happened for England.

    • @RedDevil-hh2ud
      @RedDevil-hh2ud День назад

      It is playing beautiful football and generating real masterful players besides winning the cups what spain Netherlands france etc have been doing before winning any trophies. Overhyped England have been playing ugly football

    • @religdeb
      @religdeb День назад

      @RedDevil-hh2ud England do play ugly football. It's a strange one because English teams used to have success in Europe even before all the foreigners arrived to play in England yet they couldn't play good football for the national team. I don't think anyone can really put their finger on why England struggle so much

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 21 день назад +1

    We should have definitely won Euro 2020 against Italy. We should have beaten Italy in the Final but because Southgate was manager we did.

    • @ymca4547
      @ymca4547 20 дней назад +2

      Stop commenting "we should have", "we should have". You didn't. End of.

    • @tristanwhite3472
      @tristanwhite3472 20 дней назад

      @ymca4547 Yes your right.

    • @tristanwhite3472
      @tristanwhite3472 20 дней назад

      @ymca4547 I am right though but it's the same old story with England. There are a lot of should off's we should have .

    • @tristanwhite3472
      @tristanwhite3472 20 дней назад

      @ymca4547 I thought we were going to win the World Cup in 2006 but then I saw us Playing and thought we aren't going to win it no way.

  • @jonathancooper4914
    @jonathancooper4914 16 дней назад +2

    Good thing the lionesses ended the 56-year wait, eh?

  • @nativeyo
    @nativeyo 16 дней назад +1

    Theres also an insane bias. When Beckham skies a penalty against Portugal he gets villified. When Rashford, Saka, and Sancho miss/have their penalties saved, its a racist take. But when Harry Kane skies his penalty against France, its on Southgate...🗿.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 21 день назад

    In 2006 it was a big problem we didn’t look like a team at all. They didn’t know what they were supposed to be doing very disjointed rigid

  • @NickWard-f6l
    @NickWard-f6l 23 дня назад +1

    6:36 Wrong managers for starters ericcson cappello were defensive and conservative .Keegan tactically was poor .Rio Ferdinand summed up erriccson when he told the best ball playing centre half we had ...you go over the half way line with the ball il drop you ....ffs 😮

  • @DavidDieni
    @DavidDieni 16 дней назад

    I live in Australia and I think the English have consistently fielded top class teams, and have had rotten luck...for one thing. The hand of God and Serjinhos pot shot over Seamens head. Congratulations, they are freak goals that opposition needed to pull out of their asses to beat you Limeys. The other is the unbelievable palpable pressure that you feel watching the English play and unreasonable expectations.
    How often does the best team win the world cup. I first followed the Italians when they won in 1982, while Brazil were clearly they best side. In 1990, Italy was a cut above the rest, but got bundle out by an ordinary Argentina. There are so many variables. England will probably win when they feel the worst team ever....who knows
    You should be proud. There is no other league like the English premier league.
    I am 64 and could not imagine my life without it. It has been a source of nail biting excitment more times than I remember. We are still gonna cheat at cricket all the same....its the blood

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 21 день назад +1

    In 2004 & 2006 we had great players on Paper World Class Players some of the best players but it doesn’t mean it’s all going to come together and it’s going to gell. Best team on paper but not on the pitch a bad team especially in 2006 wasn’t working wasn’t gelling didn’t come together we didn’t look like a team just individuals!

  • @paoloparziano6254
    @paoloparziano6254 11 дней назад

    From an English/Italian, I think the loss of factionalism (Liverpool v Chelsea v Arsenal) will definitely help the chemistry. I can really see England winning a major trophy in the next 2/3 competitions

  • @Sinha010
    @Sinha010 7 дней назад

    The players are amazing. They are world class. The comments ragging on the players are or saying they're overhyped are in denial. England doesn't have good coaches. They import coaches to the PL any chance they can. And it's a shame because they've overpaid millions for overhyped managers.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 22 дня назад +1

    England’s Golden Generation in 2004, 2006, 2010, failed miserably.

  • @doncarloancelotti2256
    @doncarloancelotti2256 23 дня назад

    1996 was more so the Dutch falling under pressure than England outclassing them.
    Unlike most EPL fans who overhype and overrate their English players, I sometimes do the opposite. I'd never take majority of the English players over their Italian, Spanish, German, Dutch, Brazilian, Portuguese, Argentinian, etc, counterparts.
    For a country who tries to breathe football as their major sport, only a handful are exceptional and 1 or maybe 2 are worthy for GOAT conversations (Charlton, Moore, 🤷‍♂️). Gascoigne and Owen were big what-ifs, but that defers from reality of things. Harry Kane is a modern top player but a certain washed rooster club kept holding him back for many years with spider webs filling their cabinets. Belligham is special and that's why he's playing in a top club outside England, but he'll have a long way to go competing against many prodigies in his position.
    Even amongst managers, Bobby Robson was their last elite figure.

  • @BongoBaggins
    @BongoBaggins 22 дня назад +3

    Gareth Southgate ruined my birthday. June 30th I was sat there, in Butlins, watching Germany vs Czech Rep. Absolute bastard.

  • @rangers7694
    @rangers7694 16 дней назад +1

    Best squad in international football at the moment, Tuchel gotta turn them into a team.

  • @sehu1291
    @sehu1291 16 дней назад +1

    World Cup 1990 semi final also out on penalties vs Germany

  • @WalterWhite-jg8ij
    @WalterWhite-jg8ij 22 дня назад +1

    Long may this continue.

  • @Cardi859
    @Cardi859 14 дней назад +1

    They have had good teams throughout their history, but honestly it's always that one, two or three good players that are genuinely world class and then the rest are just overrated by the English media
    It doesn't help that these players all play in one league and yet they have their own view on tactics and how the game should be played, and this is due to their club affiliations
    Their press machine is a juggernaut, and what they don't realize is how harmful it is due to mental state of the players - hyping up the players before they've even kicked the ball, let alone the tournament even starting sometimes.

  • @anuraghale2632
    @anuraghale2632 23 дня назад +10

    mention the source of videos you're using

    • @SouthamptonCentral
      @SouthamptonCentral 22 дня назад

      Bro this isn’t a dissertation.

    • @Marta1Buck
      @Marta1Buck 22 дня назад

      But ethically right to do so​@@SouthamptonCentral

  • @davidwhite7767
    @davidwhite7767 21 день назад

    They need a long chat with the Springbok Rugby Team

  • @siphotos3282
    @siphotos3282 22 дня назад

    The issue with England is they are like the Toronto maple leafs in NHL North American hockey… they have such a large fan base and it is so loyal that they will always be adored regardless of the results and the money doesn’t stop either way.

    • @turtle27835
      @turtle27835 19 дней назад

      This be the most wrong comment i've ever heard. England's problem literally could not be further from this. We might be most judgemental, horrid fans on the planet. The amount of abuse and ridicule the English media give to our own players is disgusting. Saka after Euro 2020 is the perfect evidence for that.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 22 дня назад

    Alan Hansen used to say England have goals all over the park but couldn’t bloody score any.

  • @ConsigliereOne
    @ConsigliereOne 23 дня назад

    England still suffering from that goal that wasn't in 66. Definitely gotta right their wrongs from top to bottom to finally achieve success

  • @hassamali8887
    @hassamali8887 22 дня назад +2

    Next video should be on Italian downfall

  • @evilzzzability
    @evilzzzability 2 дня назад

    There's only been 2 England teams which I've been proud to back - the team under Bobby Robson, and then under Venables. All the others have just felt like an expensively assembled collection of individuals.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 22 дня назад

    He was the best player and he was on fire we would of won if he didn’t get injured.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 23 дня назад +1

    We had the best Players in 2004 & 2006 but collectively as a team they weren’t very good. It didn’t click it didn’t come together at all disjointed. Strong squad bad team.

  • @DellyCarterson
    @DellyCarterson День назад

    19:45 Had Southgate gotten Musiala earlier, Bellingham would have no problem dominating the attacking half.

  • @sunsshine28
    @sunsshine28 12 дней назад +1

    coach is big problem in 60 years. stupid choice

  • @gabrielandreitiangson1774
    @gabrielandreitiangson1774 17 дней назад +1

    the problem is that the media and the pundits are overhyping English players that are not that good they are just still developing and learning how difficult is to play football, just for example they compare trent to cafu and i was like what the hell is this?? i mean cafu is way better than alexander arnold he was a beast in Roma, Milan and brazil he had everything reactions, playmaking, interceptions and game reading, and the pundits like carragher, neville and other former English players that are now pundits they are comparing jude bellingham and zidane man these English pundits are destroying young english players hunger and dominance of the game.

    • @RedDevil-hh2ud
      @RedDevil-hh2ud День назад

      😂😂😂 cafu played 4 wc_ 3 wc finals_ won 2_ did captaincy 1. Zidane played 3 ( actually 2) and 2 wc finals and won 1❤ who the hell are trent or Bellingham?

  • @TheCh4nc3
    @TheCh4nc3 23 дня назад +1

    Come on Tommy T, bring it home

  • @user-Chris.Alger11
    @user-Chris.Alger11 16 дней назад

    No mention of Cole Palmer. If England can get him to play as he does for Chelsea...wow! Football is a game you CAN play without great skill, there are 2 other (as important) traits that are essential to win: Mental attitude and confidence. Too many times, England have been shackled by the thought of failure, rather than buoyed by the dream of success.

  • @HarmvanderWilt
    @HarmvanderWilt 22 дня назад

    Mid 2000s there were better teams, or at least more balanced ones. Sometimes you need to be willing to bench big names to make a team work.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 23 дня назад +6

    Jermaine Defoe should have gone to the World Cup in 2006. If no him then Darren Bent but I would have preferred Defoe.

    • @bangrojai
      @bangrojai 13 дней назад

      I remember correctly in 2006. There was a moment Eriksson swapped Beckham to DR. He bombarded enemy with long ball, long cross. It was scary scene. Too bad, Eriksson was 4-4-2 fanatic. Wish he could play 3-5-2, England surely had upper hand in Beckham long ball.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 22 дня назад

    Sol Campbell goal shouldn’t have been Dissalowed against Portugal in 2004. But Portugal were the better side after Rooney went off Injured Portugal started dominating possession and England were getting forced back deeper and deeper.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 21 день назад

    Its because Gerrard and Lampard were very similar players thats why it didn't Work. None of them could play well together to be fair Especially in 2006 they didn't really.play together if you know what i mean. 2004 was better but that was because we had Rooney on Fire! We looked a bit of a better team in 2004 than 2006. We looked a better team in earlier matches. We had Roomey though and he was on Fire Great Pace and Skill could dribble Create score goals great vision. Score goals and create goals. We were much a better team in 2004 with him in the team. After he went off injured against against Portugal in 2004 we didn't look like the same team anymore. Not as threatening. Rooneywas that inspiration ij attack.

  • @eyeswideopen6492
    @eyeswideopen6492 21 день назад

    the worst thing England ever done was win it, the expectancy is there every time now

  • @Al-ji4gd
    @Al-ji4gd 23 дня назад +1

    England making excuses for their own overhyped player yet again.

    • @SouthamptonCentral
      @SouthamptonCentral 22 дня назад

      This is just nonsense man. Firstly, every country does this within their own media and with their own fans. England just get more attention for it. Secondly, a lot of that hype is justified considering how well they performed at club level. Thirdly, this “hype” doesn’t have a bearing on the actual game and the players don’t think about it while playing. Fourthly, England have been successful. There are three big teams who’ve won trophies this decade and England are clearly the best of the rest. That’s not bad considering how other teams have also got great players and let’s be honest, slightly more effective managers. With Tuchel, I see England winning trophies. And I bet you wouldn’t be saying this crap if Saka and Rashford hadn’t missed their pens in 2020. Just a few small moments have meant that we haven’t won but it doesn’t make our players failures and it’s most likely we’ll get there eventually

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 19 дней назад +1

    It was silly by Beckham if he stayed on the Pitch we would have won.

  • @itsabanglan
    @itsabanglan 23 дня назад +10

    Euro 2020 was really the one that got away. Playing at home and losing it on penalties was mighty close.

    • @sieteocho
      @sieteocho 19 дней назад

      It's just really bad luck to be losing tournaments like that. England were knocked out in 1996 by Germany because of bad luck. They could have gone on to final but then it would still be a matter of beating the Czechs. Similarly, the knockout in 2004 by Portugal was bad luck, reaching 2 finals in 2020 and 2024 and losing both were also bad luck. But they should take heart from Germany, who came close in 2006, 2008, 2010 and 2012 before winning the World Cup in 2014.

    • @minidragonito
      @minidragonito 17 дней назад

      Euro 2020 was unfair asf and despite being the most favorised team of the tournament you still managed to lose
      Blaming luck is easy if you would have win in regular time you wouldnt been victimized yourselves as unlucky

    • @oKnuTo
      @oKnuTo 11 дней назад

      that tournament so heavily stacked in England favor. Not only ´playing at home, but all the other teams constantly traveling across Europe. While England just chilled in london von 90% of the tournament

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 19 дней назад +1

    Sol Campbell goal shouldn’t have been disallowed against Argentina.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 21 день назад

    We played 451 against Portugal in 2006 but that didn’t work the players looked so uncomfortable with the system it wasn’t working and Sven never tried to change it. To rigid looked disgointed no proper system way of playing.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 22 дня назад

    The team could have been managed much better by Sven and we played a rigid 442. In 2006 against Portugal we played a 451 which was also the wrong system formation.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 22 дня назад

    No Pattern of Play. Even the poor teams you can see what they are trying to do with England you couldn’t see what they were trying to do. The effort was there but not the chemistry the understanding between players.

  • @piuskamau8305
    @piuskamau8305 22 дня назад +2

    This is a very unnecessary video. England is not "cursed", there's nothing wrong with England, England are simply not 2:03 among the very best. It's pretty simple, there are other countries that have always been better than England at football throughout history -- Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Spain, Germany, Netherlands, France etc

    • @SC.KINGDOM
      @SC.KINGDOM 20 дней назад

      Top 10 in fifa since 1930 win rate of 65% highest rank #1 1966-1970 you don't know football

    • @aurapris9591
      @aurapris9591 19 дней назад

      ​@@SC.KINGDOMSure they were more competitive 50 years ago in terms of having the potential to have a claim at being one of the best countries in the world at football but come on man, there's a reason why they never win anything and it's cause England are at best the third best country in the world at football and they can't expect to win if they don't have the talent to brute force it or the managerial ingenuity to mastermind an unexpected win, England are the Tottenham of the world, respected but never really rated to win anything by anyone that's not a fan cause they're just below the real big teams but are allowed at the big boy table sometimes due to their influence and fanbase

    • @SC.KINGDOM
      @SC.KINGDOM 19 дней назад

      @@aurapris9591 back to back euro final is elite. Keep hating

    • @SC.KINGDOM
      @SC.KINGDOM 19 дней назад

      @@aurapris9591 Netherlands 0 world cups. What's your take on that?

    • @aurapris9591
      @aurapris9591 19 дней назад +1

      @SC.KINGDOM They have had better teams overall in the late 20th century and and at the start of this one, they've had better managers and they've won some euros, they're a great nation with great players that for one reason or another could never do it in the biggest stage despite having some era defining players and tactical revolutions, similar tier to England or Portugal where they've shown they could potentially win any tournament they're in but they shouldn't be considered the actual favorites because they always seem to crumble at the last minute

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 21 день назад +1

    Yes we are the most cursed nation.

  • @Slinguh1111
    @Slinguh1111 22 дня назад +1

    They have cold feet, thats it.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 20 дней назад

    We are still a much better team than we were in 2006.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 21 день назад

    Then against Italy we were more defensive and he didn’t change the system which he should have done! If he changed it we properly would have won. It was the wrong Option to sick back and let Italy dominate.

  • @tristanwhite3472
    @tristanwhite3472 20 дней назад +1

    Great Players bad team in 2006.

  • @cincaicincai7847
    @cincaicincai7847 15 дней назад

    it's the ego starting from the management and down to players

  • @juritsch1
    @juritsch1 23 дня назад

    What a penalty from southgate. If you shoot like that you just don’t deserve it.