Star Trek: The Lack of Khan - 1980s Star Trek Toys Review
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RetroBlasting tries to understand why Star Trek toys in the 1980s didn't catch on with kids, and why there was a distinct lack of Khan in the lineup.
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"STOP... competing-with-me-decker."
the reason I think the Star Trek toy line failed wasn't for the reasons given in this video I think the toy manufacturers didn't understand how kids played Star Trek I remember when I was a kid we didn't want action figures of Captain Kirk and Spock and none of the other characters to play with the same way we played with Star Wars and GI Joe characters we wanted their gadgets we wanted phasers tricorders and communicators we would pretend to be members of the Federation and run around the neighborhood like maniacs so what the manufacturer should have made was those gadgets seen on Star Trek.
King Mojo , they were just trying to mimic the success of Star Wars toys. It was a typical example of corporate minds not understanding WHY something worked. Star Trek is not Star Wars, and vice versa. Another line that tried to copy Star Wars was Disney's The Black Hole. Kids didn't want an action figure of Ernest Borgnine, they wanted the robots and ships. The twelve inch line was all boring human characters. Where was the large robots? Corporate minds did not have a clue how to market their toy lines or build on the strengths of the particular brand. It was always dollar signs in their eyes, let's copy Star Wars.
well that's true. but the enterprise should have made like the falcon was. forget scale. it would have to be big. bigger than the falcon was. but it would have been cool. you could open the dish up and have you figure pile into the ship.
We wanted their gadgets, and we sorta got a few. There were model kits of the tricorder, phaser, and communicator, as well as the ship and shuttle craft for a while. Playmates would later make those toys, starting with 'The Next Generation' ..
Too true and full of saving planets memories!
Maybe there would have been more interest if there was a 1980 onwards Saturday morning cartoon?
I love these classic RetroBlasting videos. I watch them over and over. They bring a sense of peace and allow me to remember a time that was so much fun in my life.
This is my favourite channel in existence. That is not hyperbole.
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Yep!
That was very nice of you Harry. This is a fun and informative channel!
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In the late 1990’s & early 2000’s, Playmates came out with a great line of Star Trek figures. Thank goodness for Playmates.
I think the time is right for a follow up to this Retro Blasting classic.
The Playmates line in the ninties was awesome.
When I was a kid I had to keep begging my parents to buy shreddies cereal to get my start Trek toy ship lol. The first ship I got was enterprise and I was so happy, I played with it weeks, luckily it's easy to make the bog ships for it to battle lol.
I remember getting the crew and play set as a birthday gift. I only ever remember playing with the bridge play set once. Only once.. but I kept the figures for years.
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"Away team?" "AWAY TEAM?!"
>head explodes
Holy 6 year retrospective Batman. Given you were in the UK at the time you would probably know for sure, But I seem to recall that Corgi had a tiny Trek 2 Enterprise in their Corgi Juniors line and I do remember seeing a couple hit stateside at the time. I didn't seek one out because of how off it was with the backward pylons. Of course around that time both Dinky and Corgi were on life support anyway given how the British pound sterling performed weakly to the US Dollar. Lesney Matchbox survived, but barely and they ended up selling AMT, the company known for Star Trek model kits, to Ertl around 1981-82.
Star Trek The Motion Picture Director's cut is an excellent science fiction film. It's what Star Trek was all about, seek out new life forms and the mystery of space. Star Trek was always at it's best when it was serious and cerebral.
Right, but which version? The 2001 DVD version or the recent re-mount with significant changes of its own?
"A Klingon!"
"A Pedophile..."
I lost it
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It was good!
Me too! DEFINITELY saved the best joke for last. I used to really like Decker too- or at least felt bad for him. Now it's tough to watch TMP. I would have killed for that electronic Enterprise when The Wrath of Kahn came out- I must have watched that movie a hundred times on HBO.
Lol...I know right!!! Man I died laughing at that part!!!
What's worse, somehow (being both a Trek and general pop culture fan) I didn't know until now. "A Klingon" "A Pedophile" (quick confused Google search) (couple of minutes shock) "Bwahahahaha". Too soon too laugh?
I couldn't AGREE more! That bridge was a thin, flimsy coffee cup lid held together with double-sided tape! You also needed magnified glasses to play with it. I threw it out. I never thought any collector would want this dollar store purchase!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
I must say .. the skit at the end of this was Awesomeness! Great Job RB!
As a kid in the 80s all I wanted was a toy communicator and phaser that looked like the ones on the show.
Love the sound squirm scenes starting @7:13! LOL!
Spock: "V'ger is a child..."
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So, that's why Decker went off with V'ger/Ilia at the end.
HAHA
My grand father has a few of those 12 inch figures on a display he used to love the show during the 70s
Don’t believe Rodddenberry was thinking “toys” when developing Trek.
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God...
That really sums up my time with action figures as a kid
Another awesome video!!!! Mike and Malinda, you guys rock at filming,editing and obviously research. Your videos are always entertaining and extremely informative. Kudos to both of you 👍
Thanks Brian! Thanks for being a subscriber!
I had the South Bend Enterprise... wish I still had it... ah, the things we miss into our 40's
Michael, your videos are really great.
The Enterprise 1701 A is imo THE most iconic and sleekest looking of all the Enterprises...i always wanted a desktop sized version of it
Thumbs up for the scene at the end! VERY FUNNY!
i had the mego vinyl star trek playset. yeah, it was pretty cool. the problem became holding the flimsy playset together once the seams began to tear. i think it eventually got crushed during a move, which is no surprise because as cool as it was it was still the cheapest thing in a kid's toy collection.
I love what you did with the action figures at the end. Good job with the voices.
Mego made some Cool Black Hole figures too. and were the ones that made the Buck Rogers stuff. I have a book on Mego. They also made the Eagle Force Metallic figures that are even smaller then the Star Wars and Gi Joe Figures.
Awesome, I hope you add the Black Hole figures into this sweet 80’s mix!
Holy crap! That South Bend Enterprise toy (that I had no idea existed) has the same sound effects as my old Star Bird toy. I guess they recycled a lot of circuits back then.
I just stumbled across your videos. The buck Rodgers episode 1 showed up in my feed for some reason. I watched it loved it, and still loving them. Takes me back to my childhood. Thank you for these videos.
I agree with Harry, I look forward to new posts from you guys. A lot of care and effort goes into these episodes and they are excellent. Mego certainly is the patron saint of lost action figure causes - black hole anyone?!
stu birchall Appreciate the kind words, stu! Our latest feature is a big one and it's going to be posted this week.
Growing up I never knew there were Star Trek toys or figures. I wasn't into Star Trek as a kid and none of my friends were either. Looking at what they did offer, I'm not surprised the toys flopped.
TVfanfanatic Yeah - they had some shortcomings.
Wow! Love this review!!! Very good observations 👍
OMG!!! Epiphany ahoy!!! Now I know why I loved Star Wars first over Trek when I was growing up in the Eighties. Thanks 🖖
I feel like Star Trek is one of those properties that somehow has a much bigger pop culture footprint than it's actual popularity would suggest. It's iconic, but people forget that the TOS movies (after the first one) were mostly low to mid budget affairs that were successful, but didn't really blow the doors off of theaters. Coupled to the fact that it's not the most toyetic property, it was probably never going to compete with Star Wars or even something like Battlestar Galactica or even Space 1999 that had more ongoing content at the same time the toys were on the shelves.
Great analysis! And that ending was brilliant!
Funny story. I inherited the bridge playset from my brother and I used it for my Galoob Star Trek TNG figures.
Wow...I never realized that. The fact that Star Trek had Transporters Killed it as a toy line. If I remember correctly Roddenberry came up with the idea of transporters to save on expensive Ship landing scenes. But even as a kid in the 70's my MEGO's had no ships to ride in lol.
I liked the high jacking scene. As a kid I had the ERTL figures and had pieces of the Motion Picture bridge but for playing Kirk and company would have to beg, borrow, or steal a G.I. Joe jeep or the Millennium Falcon.
Excellent vid guys. You rule!!
@7:27 I've always loved me my TOS and TMP era kitbash classes.... now I see what inspired them all
Love the channel keep up the good work
The Next Gen tease at the end has me wanting more.
Michael, you have the Conn.
Is there a part 2? What about playmates Star Trek toys?
Tattooine77 Yes yes... to Obi Wan you listen *****
I love the end scene thing that you did could you do more?
Great video, i do enjoy watching your videos. Keep up the good work its a very good channel. You obviously put alot of effort into your videos/shows...
Gary Horsburgh Thanks Gary. We make every effort to give our subscribers quality content.
Live long and prosper.
So Far this is my favorite RetroBlasting video!!! Cant wait to see the next one. Thank you.
***** Appreciate that Art!
Really liked your tribute to Leonard Nimoy as well. I actually got to meet him once my dad took me to a convention in Indy one year for my birthday at the Westin hotel. Not recognizing him with a mustache and beard I carried his bags to his room for him after he got on to the elevator that my dad and I were on and he tried to give me $5 and I refused politely and went back down the hall to the room my dad and I were in. There's more to the story way too much to type maybe some time I can tell you.
That's amazing! I never met Mr. Nimoy. I did however accidentally rear-end his niece in Los Angeles (less than 5 mph blunder). True story - and it was a week after I'd purchased the Search for Spock Collector's DVD.
Another great video, love all the Star Trek references! Keep up the great work! Always enjoy your toy line reviews!
Clay Montgomery Thanks Clay! Will do!
One the most fun things about the late 70's /early 80's era of action figures ..was imagination "crossover universe " play ...lol..at one point i had Star Wars ,Trek , Buck Rogers , The Black Hole and G.I. Joe all interacting ...personally i found the BSG figures were too big though a couple of them made cool additions to the Star Wars universe as giant Cantina type aliens lol
I had a Scotty and a Decker. also had a die cast enterprise and Klingon battle cruise
Great video! The end teased a follow up or part 2 for TNG. Is that coming soon?
In the intro when the Joes shot wheel jack it triggers my ptsd of gi Joe vs the transformers
Next Generation had some good figs, that includes the ones you showed and the more articulated ones
Spot on review. I remeber the Motion Picture action figures were always unsold in the stores for years after they were produced. None of my school friends played with the ST figures.
BCibroski Seems to be a theme from back then. ;) Such a shame.
Loved the end!
Great Video Guys!! Thanks!!
You're welcome, John!
Used the Enterprise bridge playset as a Star destroyer for Darth Vader as I didn't have any of the Star Trek figures.
Love it!
Dammit! Now I want to rewatch Wrath of Khan again.
I love your vids.
art asylum /diamond select are the way to go for a star trek collection pure quality
Someone at Mego had mentioned that after ST TMP they were done with Trek. By the time Wraith Of Khan came around, Mego was out of business anyway.
Mego is back at this time with new figures from the Star Trek line ...it would be great to see playset from the TOS time... A NEW bridge, engineering, sickbay,transporter room...etc ...and planets and gobs of aliens .... Ahhh ...to be 10 again ....
I just noticed, RUclips now posts links so you can shop for Trek Toys after watching the video
Bob Peak fully painted movie poster. Quality.
One must remember that Star Trek was on a more intellectual level. Although there were "fighting" scenes in the TV series, it was not like Star Wars. Kids were not getting a Kirk or Spock toy and voom vooming around with phasers at some enemy. The only people I ever see buying Star Trek toys are adults and they are not buying them to play with. I agree with one of the commenters below, what kids wanted was the equipment so they could pretend THEY were in some Trek adventure. What is interesting is the value Star Trek toys. Although there are some exceptions, the toys have never been very valuable for a collector (as is Star Wars). When STNG came out I bought all of the electronic ships and toys, thinking on day they might be worth money. I get the Net and find they are not selling for much more than I paid for them years ago. On the other hand, a couple of Star Wars items I picked up have gone up several hundred percent in price.
Not a big Star Trek fan but the video is entertainingly informative.
I wonder if there's enough interest to do an Enterprise Ship/Figure Playset along the lines of the HasLab Jabba's Barge? The saucer could open and be the bridge, while a Transporter room could be in the lower section - maybe even room for a mini shuttle to slot in - and then Engineering and Medical mini sections in either Nacelle, which could both flip open to help form areas big enough for 3.75" figures to fit. Obviously its not screen accurate but surely fans could overlook the innccuracies of scale to get a bona fide Enterprise that fits-the-figures Ship and Playset in one? I always thought part of the charm of playsets was how they worked in maximum play areas in limited space, and if the saucer and nacelles pop off from the midship section that would allow easier access to the play areas, tho of course keeping it together works just as well too and is sturdy enough to "fly" - provided you can lift the thing! Heck they could even engineer the sections to snap together as the ship or in playset mode to form two differently shaped modes! It could include the crew in 3.75" figure form with more figures to come if it does well. The big question, which to offer first: the original series or Next Generation? How much and how many minimum orders have to be confirmed (and by what deadline) before they'll go into production?
Brilliant! Excellent commentary as well! Thanks again!
You're welcome OIF! Thanks for watching!
You have knocked it out of the park again!!!
BEST channel on RUclips, no question!!!
You should do a series of features on a few modern toys too.
It might help with the current state of yuck in the industry now.
Reviews are nice and all but a solid, concise and direct style like yours would make 'em get their houses in order. HAHAHA!!!
MC Austin Thanks for the compliment, MC! Modern toys? Hmmm...Like what?
🥰😅🤣🤣🤣Great video. You make me laugh so much. So many great childhood memories. 👍
You had me at 'With Broken Vader'.
Yeah - I get myself with that too! Haha!
I really loved “The Motion Picture”
The Star Trek figures finally got what they were looking for (not counting the classic MEGO figures, of course) with Playmates - but too late for the movies. Those were very well done AND included some ships they could even fit into! Sadly, Playmates had to fuck it up and make limited figures and then change the scale,.. But it was fun while it lasted. EMCE brought back the classic MEGO figs, but only make them available to purchase through stores, not online, so there aren't as many figures as the fans want,.. Looks like Trek will always be getting the short end of the stick,..
The end was too funny 😂😂👍
the last scene was awesome
I had the original mego enterprise as a kid with all the figures but sadly all I have now is just the box it came in but it’s in great condition.
Amazing it took until 2007 to get a full line of Khan figures from Diamond Select. I got a bit crazy with Star Trek figures when Playmates had the licence and Star Wars was in semi-hibernation. I had basically everything from 1992 to 1996. When they decided to do the limited figures and non nonsensical scale with First Contact I was out of it. I only have a vague recollection of the Motion Picture toys out on shelves. They looked boring then and since I didn't see any Trek until Star Trek 3 I and being just a toddler really I wasn't interested. I had no idea about the diecast and Ertel figures. They somehow got the odd numbered films which are not as well loved stocked with merchandise and the even got little. Weird in hindsight. Excellent work as always!
Right now my Star Trek figures are in my Millennium Falcon.
Nice brown leather belt. Nice.
I remember a fast food tie in with TMP. I don't remember if it was BK or McD's. They had, probably paper, replicas of all the ships in the movie, including the Vulcan shuttle. I had a toy phaser that was from the original series and that's it.
Well I went to GOOGLE. McDonalds had the tie in. Nothing I can find on the ships. Maybe they were hanging in the restaurants? I was about 7 so my memory is suspect I guess.
I think the motion picture had so much extra stuff in it because they had to add more to make it a actual movie from the phase ii pilot In Thy Image
So it's a variation of the "only the even numbered films are good" argument? Only the odd numbered films had toylines. How ironic, and tragic.
gi joe doc was always my fave one as a kid cuz he was one of the last ones left and i always got him. lol
Pretty bizarre that TMP had toys and TSFS had toys, but the most beloved Star Trek film didn't have any toys at the time.
Just a weird question.... I still have some of the Mego Star Trek figures still carded... I noticed on my Spock figure that his little emblem piece on his chest is not red but I keep noticing on everyone else's Spock figure that the piece is red. Did they make 2 versions of him? Just wondering.
This is my favorite channel and I love the videos. Being a 42 year old man who still plays with toys your site makes me yearn for the good ol days when they had figures for every show and movie practically. It's sad that it seems the state of toy making (action figures especially) seems to be disappearing. Keep up the good work. Can't wait for all future videos.
Bill Lane Hey Bill! That's interesting about your Spock. Mego was all over the place quality wise toward the end, so it wouldn't be shocking to see a carded figure without a paint app applied. (e.g. Dukes of Hazzard - what a mess...)
Damn, that Vader pen is so lifelike! Where can I get one?!
I had the motion picture figures probably because they were reduced in price pretty quickly. I hadn't even seen the movie when I bought them, I got them because I used to watch reruns of TOS. The toy makers made some odd decisions here alright, not including the full crew or any accessories. My figures borrowed random blasters from my Star Wars figures which I stuck to their hands with blu tack because they couldn't hold anything.
Loving the new Broken Vader credit in the intro! XD
Thanks Wes
No problem! I think it'd be rather funny to tease him with a lightsaber he can't hold sometime ;o
nice ending are you going to do a next gen toy line review cause those toys kicked ass and even brought back original cast toys we never got
I distinctly remember this being given to me as a kid for Christmas. I also got a STMP metal rubbish bin, that stayed with me until I left for College. lol
Love the video!
Even though I'm a huge fan of Star Trek 4, I'm not sure if that movie would've sold toys. But yeah, Star Treks 2 & 6 would've made excellent toy sellers. It seems they just kept backing the wrong films. It's also kind of funny that they didn't want to sell toys for the films that became the most popular in the series, but they did on the films that weren't very popular.
Great video - very entertaining and educational. It did seem like toy manufacturers just didn't know what to do with Star Trek, at least not until Playmates got involved during Trek's golden age. And even now, manufacturers are confused as to what to do with the current movies. On that ending, please consider doing a video on the rest of Star Trek toy history.
CBunye As you might have seen at the end, it says "To be continued" ;)
***** Oh, I saw it. Just checking. Looking forward to it! ;-)
Lol that ending was awesome and funny.
Please make a TGN toy review!