NY Giants News & Rumors| Speak For Yourself Crew Says Giants Need To Get Rid Of Daniel Jones Now!!

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  • @tyronehall4115
    @tyronehall4115 Месяц назад +5

    You make a great point!

  • @mosleyii
    @mosleyii Месяц назад +6

    💯

  • @QuiwaSouza
    @QuiwaSouza Месяц назад +7

    💯💯💯

  • @mikec6733
    @mikec6733 Месяц назад +4

    If we're gonna list the weaknesses in the team around DJ, I'd put the O-line as a bigger culprit than the receiving corps, though both have been bad.

  • @coryyoung26
    @coryyoung26 Месяц назад +7

    I don't like the slander the media is giving to Duke and I'm not even a Duke fan. At all. The concept of not getting a player just because they playing at Duke is stupid. Graham Barton is consider one of the best IOL coming out the draft this year. Guess what college he played for? Duke. The answer is Duke. A team is clearly going to pick him up in the first or second round. So it can't be based on a college a player came from. That concept is nothing more then an excuse to not like DJ even more. We can agree that DJ hasn't turned out the way the organization would had liked for him to turn out. That's on DJ and coaching. That has nothing to do with Duke.

  • @EmmanuelConstant747
    @EmmanuelConstant747 Месяц назад +3

    You made very good valid points with your analysis. I never denied Daniel Jones had some good stuff with his throwing arm and good speed. However - There are weak points about him as well.
    Daniel Jones is not a true leader among the offense. He doesn't motivate an offensive line the way he should and he does not have a strong throwing arm. He can win you a few games it's true, But he doesn't motivate a team well enough to play against the competition. The proof - The Cowboys and Eagles are UNDEFEATED against Daniel Jones. That does not exactly inspire confidence going into the future.
    Compare Daniel Jones to JJ McCarthy. A legitimate strong arm QB who motivates an offense like he was born to it. Out of all the players of the Michigan O-line alone - Not one of them is considered a true 1st round talent. Yet McCarthy motivates them to play against the competition like they all belong in the 1st round.
    Compare Daniel Jones to Drake Maye. A super strong arm QB that gets results against the competition as well. He can play with a struggling offensive line and is good at avoiding the pass rush. Can't lose with that.
    Neither one of these QBs had anybody like LT Andrew Thomas protecting their blind side.
    I don't blame Daniel Jones for his failures - I blame Dave Gettleman for doing a lousy job building around a QB that he chose. At least Joe Schoen gives him a fighting chance by stocking up on the O-Line during Free Agency.
    I think Jones deserves at least one more year to prove his value, But I still think they need a QB for the long term future because Jones will be too costly to keep after 2 years. If he does well he'll be a valuable free agent next season.

  • @richardlouro5603
    @richardlouro5603 Месяц назад +2

    You do an excellent job with your videos, comments, great common sense and analysis. Thank you for sticking up for DJ with the truth about the facts. You use great examples. Newly prescribed. Thank you again

  • @cliffordburns6822
    @cliffordburns6822 Месяц назад +1

    This is spot on!!! I've been saying this since the beginning. To me, DJ is a very capable QB. Get the O line right and some weapons and let him grow.

  • @shawnlee9454
    @shawnlee9454 Месяц назад +4

    What about, Rome Odunze? He's the only True X out of the 3. Harrison and Nabers, are Z in my opinion

    • @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk
      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk  Месяц назад +2

      Ugh I think all 3 of those guys can play anywhere u need them to frfr wouldn't mind either one of them on the giants

    • @shawnlee9454
      @shawnlee9454 Месяц назад +1

      Either one would definitely be an upgrade, but it's just that, Odunze has the lowest drop rate of the 3 and as the only True X, he's simply the better option for the Giants, because of the drops by our receivers in these past years have me Wishing for the one who has the least drops, ya dig. Good content though, and I know you and I want what's best for our team. True Giants fans aren't stuck on players, who come and go. We're going to support whoever puts on those jerseys.

  • @phillipcrocker-hu5sj
    @phillipcrocker-hu5sj Месяц назад +4

    A great Quarterback will make a average wide receiver group looks good

  • @alwaysright123
    @alwaysright123 Месяц назад +2

    I agree with everything you just said . And to be honest if Jones had a top ten oline in 22 I think he could have won 12 games even with Slayton , James , and Hodgins . What I don’t understand is why you keep mocking QBs in your mocks 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️. We need talent for whoever the qb is in the future and we owe him for two more years . Like you said , make it make sense

    • @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk
      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk  Месяц назад

      Oh my last and final mock will be for me and how I really feel they would pick these players just wait

    • @alwaysright123
      @alwaysright123 Месяц назад

      @@WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk I mean the last one you passed on Harrison for Daniels . SMH 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️. If we take Daniels at all I’ll be pissed. Especially if we pass on the top 3 wr . Any way love your content , but you were pissing me off with those mocks 😂😂😂😂

  • @jarius2262
    @jarius2262 Месяц назад +1

    Great content Big Pat..and you are right..at least give him some weapons and time with a decent offensive line and then evaluate him. How can u say hes trash but he won a playoff game with a roster all those other QBs might not have made it.

  • @edwinastacio9967
    @edwinastacio9967 Месяц назад +2

    People need to leave DJ Alone let see if we can bring him a number one wide receiver and offensive line give him time..

  • @4countin406
    @4countin406 Месяц назад +1

    Also, I digress on what I said about Nabers. We should trade down and take Odunze, he has a skill set that we don't have, we have 6'0" with speed in Hyatt and Slayton, and a 5'10" Robinson. And don't forget we get BFW this season healthy.

  • @nickbavas5864
    @nickbavas5864 Месяц назад +1

    They should not be bashing DJ. But also I believe the Giants are worried about his injury history and the amount of money they mistakenly gave him. The Neck injury is probably their biggest concern. Hopefully they figure this crap out I’m tired of losing.

  • @theheavyweightchampionofth6862
    @theheavyweightchampionofth6862 Месяц назад +1

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @4countin406
    @4countin406 Месяц назад +1

    We need to get Milton in the 5th. Great arm, size and can run and a hell of an athlete.

  • @WillWilkins-fz7yr
    @WillWilkins-fz7yr Месяц назад +1

    What's up big pat Let's go NY 🏈 GIANTS 🔵🔴 LETS shut up the haters

  • @Letemlive80
    @Letemlive80 Месяц назад +1

    Shady said don't go to Duke for a quarterback right...but what makes North Carolina any better..it's also a basketball school..right...but you don't hear anyone talking down on drake maye..make it make sense..alot of people want maye..why do people feel like that when it comes to Daniel Jones..what college was Josh Allen drafted from Wyoming...who ever really knew anything about Wyoming before he was drafted by the bills..I'll wait...so in my opinion it's all about coaching and helping a young quarterback develop..period..and has Daniel Jones gotten anywhere near the stability of a Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes..let's be fair..love and appreciate the channel great conversation and you bigpatssportstalk those mock drafts are dope my brotha stay up 🗽🏈🫡🔥💯

    • @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk
      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk  Месяц назад +1

      Appreciate it bro thanks for the support

    • @Letemlive80
      @Letemlive80 Месяц назад

      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk yw at the end of the day..I just want to see this team win..it's been too long since we've been on top..#FANSINCE91#BEGIANT 💯

  • @lez2k6
    @lez2k6 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for making this video. It's weird how they bash DJ. Mccoy is so disrespectful.

  • @Drop_Takers_Golf
    @Drop_Takers_Golf Месяц назад +2

    Allen still looked like he had something special before the talent not even a comparison in my opinion and I like Jones but that’s not fair. Give me one year where Allen only had 15 TD’s with or without talent. Jones is also often hurt

  • @troyholston375
    @troyholston375 Месяц назад +1

    Tell’em Big P! I’m doin my the same MHJ/Nabers or trade back!

  • @GiantsSocial
    @GiantsSocial Месяц назад +1

    The only reason the media hates Daniel Jones so much is because Coach Pat Shurmur drafted him and the media couldn't stand Shurmur.

  • @Shardekeoglesby3073
    @Shardekeoglesby3073 Месяц назад +2

    # DJ, did good enough,,,for what he faces,,,no O-line,,,,now if he doesn't get hurt,,,he is going to light the game up,,, he can see now that he's protected,,,, we have weapons,,,,he couldn't see them due to being hit...and sacked,,,,

  • @montste8257
    @montste8257 Месяц назад +1

    Big Pat, all the qb's you named are better than DJ without the without the championship quality players, but to your point, you're right about them not putting the best players around him, but you know mentally he doesn't have, and it may be the giants fault, but at the end of the day, it's time to move on

    • @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk
      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk  Месяц назад

      How do u know that

    • @montste8257
      @montste8257 Месяц назад

      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk please tell me that you seen DJ miss throws to open wr, because of holding the ball too long or for not going through his progressions and staring down his wr

  • @timdejoseph1595
    @timdejoseph1595 Месяц назад +2

    Backups outplayed DJ? They played scrubs and we still went 6-11

  • @forheavensakes9144
    @forheavensakes9144 Месяц назад +1

    DJ haven't had the players necessary to win but I would draft a quarterback because of DJ injury history😊 I'm happy we moved on from Saquon too

    • @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk
      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk  Месяц назад

      Frfr bro happy we moved on and would be happy if we moved off DJ too but I'm not gonna sit here and act like he was the worst QB u would ever see either smh

    • @forheavensakes9144
      @forheavensakes9144 Месяц назад

      @@WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk the only thing I'm gonna miss about SB was him on the goal line

  • @lilricklilrick
    @lilricklilrick Месяц назад +1

    What song is in the intro big Pat?

  • @skeemoe5083
    @skeemoe5083 Месяц назад +1

    We literally had the worst pass protection in NFL history just let that sink in Shady smh its too obvious when someone is just talking out the side of they neck instead of actually watch the game play

  • @dumpstershockey2746
    @dumpstershockey2746 Месяц назад +1

    If they can find and/or develop a guy who can win a playoff game, then Jones can be replaced. Easier said than done. Either way I do not want to pass on a game breaking WR this season. We need a guy who is going to catch passes. I think Drew Lock is a solid backup option. I’m cool with getting a QB in round 2 or later, but our 1st round pick needs to be the best player available otherwise we are mortgaging our future - and that’s how the Giants got here, because Gettleman and Reese made crappy decisions.

  • @primetime8169
    @primetime8169 Месяц назад +1

    For all those thinking you don't need elite talent around the quarterback.Let's see how far Allen gets this year...Without diggs...buffalo aint making the playoffs...they will finish 3rd in that division...

  • @albertcarrion7291
    @albertcarrion7291 Месяц назад +1

    You’re right Daniel Jones never really had a Team around him no receivers no TE’s no OL but guess what… It’s time to move on.. he’s damaged goods at this point.. we got a pick at 6!!! They have to get a QB now no matter what…if you don’t you never when’s the next time you’ll be picking so high..

  • @tyronehall4115
    @tyronehall4115 Месяц назад +1

    Btw remember Dave Brown from Duke?

  • @coachdave3420
    @coachdave3420 Месяц назад +1

    Pat, He was just never good enough. Why is it that hard to comprehend??

    • @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk
      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk  Месяц назад

      Because it's not true because u can't possibly know cause we haven't put anything around the kid hate him or not truth is truth bro he has had nowhere near what other successful QBs have around him and that's just a fact.
      U can't say stuff like that if he has never had the opportunity to do so.
      If u wanna move on then move on but be truthful about the situation as a whole.
      DJ got a raw deal and that's just facts like him or not

    • @dwaynemurphyjr.4478
      @dwaynemurphyjr.4478 Месяц назад +1

      You gotta stop we gave him weapons Golladay and Waller he couldn’t make them work. We drafted lineman we drafted receivers we’ve brought in Running Backs and added defensive talent over and over again the problem is DJ it’s time to go. 6 years is ENOUGH

  • @willcox1625
    @willcox1625 Месяц назад +4

    It's time to move on... let it go bro.

    • @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk
      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk  Месяц назад +2

      IDC about moving on I care about being truthful about a player and the situation.
      It's ok to want to move on but tell the dang truth all I ask

    • @willcox1625
      @willcox1625 Месяц назад

      Two things can be true at the same time, he was pu into a bad situation, he didn't have a line, bad coaching etc....but this is the NFL and as Jerry Glanville once
      Stands for "not for long". And he had six years...its time.

  • @Coach_WARD
    @Coach_WARD Месяц назад +2

    No no noooooo lol.
    DJ never had the traits of a good QB.
    He was never a 2nd tier QB. We reached on him and he ain't Allen. Allen atleast has the arm talent and can make every throw.

  • @4countin406
    @4countin406 Месяц назад +1

    And just remember, James Jones supports Justin Fields

  • @tsvimizrahi4667
    @tsvimizrahi4667 Месяц назад +3

    My thing is theses guys deserve to draft they own qb. And 6 yrs was good enough sample. Building young new tm and this draft haps the potential 😊QBs. Ima stay on spot. Drake maye there get him. If no. I’ll go nabres and stay jones that’s fine

    • @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk
      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk  Месяц назад

      I dc if they move on every QB needs a number 1 target so if one of those guys is there take em in my book

  • @4countin406
    @4countin406 Месяц назад +1

    Let's go this far, you forgot to mention, how ws Josh Allen with McCoy in the backfield? They weren't dominate. I'm not a DJ fan but facts are facts, he is a good QB when healthy. Bottom line, they ARE HATING THAT DJ got the bag.!!!!! Period. Know you look at the QB market, his contract is not bad!!!!!!

  • @kakashisauske8794
    @kakashisauske8794 Месяц назад +1

    The ELEPHANT in The Room 🐘. My Beloved GIANTS have Never Drafted an African American “ Franchise “ QB . Hope For The Best , Prepare for The Worst 🎩☘️

  • @Shardekeoglesby3073
    @Shardekeoglesby3073 16 дней назад +2

    Listen we may have found our franchise QB in # Liam Thompson,,, he can throw it deep,,, and fast off the pass in motion,, and can run to the house,,,i felt that one will walk to us and it just did,,, look him up,, please GO G-men.,!!¡!!¡¡;;!!!

  • @TBM1031
    @TBM1031 Месяц назад +1

    Message to the media… Make It Make Sense!! … This is a great way of coming to DJ’s defense Pat. TBH, I’m ready to move on from him for injury concerns. This is his LAST opportunity to prove his worth. Let’s see what happens.

  • @Letemlive80
    @Letemlive80 Месяц назад +1

    For guys who played in the NFL these 2 are buggin out...they sound like kids at the lunch table in high-school shady is a eagle at heart he's from Philadelphia so he's not using common sense and James Jones just a cosigner for shady..plain and simple..💯

  • @ronwan1408
    @ronwan1408 Месяц назад +1

    Come on bruh, keep it a stack…. You know it’s time for the Giants to move on from DJ. He’s been with the team for six years now, by the time the Giants are ready to compete, he will be going into possibly year 9 or 10. Enough is enough! Let’s get some new blood in there & start winning some games again.

    • @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk
      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk  Месяц назад

      Well if u want winning so bad look at the foundation of the team as I am.
      In dj tenure here has he had a legit #1 wr?
      Has he had a decent NFL oline?
      Ask those questions sir

    • @ronwan1408
      @ronwan1408 Месяц назад

      @@WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk Winning football starts when you get a bonafide franchise QB & Daniel Jones is not it

  • @MrBEFFRON
    @MrBEFFRON Месяц назад +4

    You ain't speaking facts now

  • @Shardekeoglesby3073
    @Shardekeoglesby3073 Месяц назад +2

    If you had put prock purdy,,,in # DJ, place he wouldn't survive..... believe me...

  • @Letemlive80
    @Letemlive80 Месяц назад +1

    Get rid of him now...and then what..just eat that lost...because regardless he's getting paid..right or wrong?..give him this last chance to show this organization he is a guy who can win remember Richie James shep and Slayton...Bellinger.. is what he put some work with in '22..and everyone was loving the guy..we didn't protect him last year got him almost killed and it's his fault only..he takes so many disrespectful shots for the team being bad..either way this is his last shot to prove he belongs in this league..probably on another team..but I think teams would take #8..I guess we'll see what happens 🤔🗽🏈🫡💯

  • @jameshollister8294
    @jameshollister8294 Месяц назад +1

    They never build right around jones is why the so confused....they missed manged him

  • @albertcarrion7291
    @albertcarrion7291 Месяц назад +1

    Dude if they dont get rid of Jones or rather get another QB now you gonna be talking be talking about a QB forever… Jones will never bring us a Championship..Never!!!!

    • @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk
      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk  Месяц назад

      no im gonna continue to do content and if they dont block or get the new QB weapons guess what im going to be saying again

  • @JamesBrown-ty5wp
    @JamesBrown-ty5wp Месяц назад

    DJ is capable but dont have wow factors an don't give alot confidence....

    • @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk
      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk  Месяц назад

      u dont need super wow factor to win and yea his confidence may be shot who knows but i would love to see dj behind a legit oline and with a legit #1 WR

  • @Drop_Takers_Golf
    @Drop_Takers_Golf Месяц назад +3

    A Great Qb elevates the team

    • @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk
      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk  Месяц назад +5

      Keep repeating the media

    • @JustinV96
      @JustinV96 Месяц назад +6

      He took practice squad receivers to a road playoff game

    • @timdejoseph1595
      @timdejoseph1595 Месяц назад +2

      Way to regurgitate talking head speak instead of analyzing a situation and putting real thought into it.

    • @alwaysright123
      @alwaysright123 Месяц назад +2

      First off there is maybe two qbs in the league at any given time that truly “elevate” your team . And explain this to me . Why did everyone say all year Mahomes had no weapons as Richie James sat on the bench , but DJ is supposed to elevate him 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️😂😂

    • @timdejoseph1595
      @timdejoseph1595 Месяц назад +1

      @@alwaysright123 let me just add, Mahommes still has the best TE in the league and a stellar offensive line. His receiving corps isnt the greatest but Rashee Rice is no scrub. He’d start on many teams.

  • @bigbluedosia1975
    @bigbluedosia1975 Месяц назад +1

    Can’t stand McCoy

  • @dribblez609
    @dribblez609 Месяц назад +1

    My dude... rip to the goat, Kevin Samuel's. Getting on single mother's bc they can't keep a man around long enough to put a battery in the smoke detector. You're uploading videos my dude. I blame your friends... bc you had some rando named dribblez be the one who help you with it

  • @okmurdle
    @okmurdle Месяц назад +4

    It’s been 5 years what more do we need to see. There’s nothing special about jones. He’s a back up. Guys continue to make excuses for this guy. If I’m Schoen and Daboll why would I put my job on the line and ride with Jones who’s been mediocre at best.

    • @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk
      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk  Месяц назад +2

      What has been great around dj since he has been here

    • @JustinV96
      @JustinV96 Месяц назад +3

      His best receiver he’s ever had was Slayton

    • @okmurdle
      @okmurdle Месяц назад +1

      @@WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk fans act like it has to be one way or the other, both can be true. The o line and weapons weren’t good, and jones is mediocre.

  • @Thekidyusuke
    @Thekidyusuke Месяц назад +1

    Bro your analysis is horrible. They obviously changed the game plans when Daniel jones got hurt and started leaning on saquon Barkley and the ground game more. When the opportunity presented itself Tommy D and Tyrod both were up for the challenge dj however shriveled up and turned the ball over. I’m tired of giving this guy excuses. HES NOT GOOD. If he was he wouldn’t need every single weapon in the NFL

    • @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk
      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk  Месяц назад

      o really so why did dj average more passing yards per game than both taylor and devito with way more pressure against him and 3 of his picks were tipped of wrs hands barkley with 2 huh. u do know thomas barkley neal and wandale robinson were hurt when he played right?

  • @timdejoseph1595
    @timdejoseph1595 Месяц назад +1

    Lets just say for arguments sake that DJ is done. We are still a team with too many holes to throw a college prospect into the deep end. We need an X receiver. We need a tight end, a bruiser type RB. We are still a historically bad o line until proven otherwise. And thats just the offense.

  • @educce1
    @educce1 Месяц назад +1

    DJ is garbage period, don’t matter who you put around him, it’s time to move on after this season.

  • @terondrickrainey5141
    @terondrickrainey5141 Месяц назад +2

    I can’t wait for dj to be gone I hope we get a black one at least Iknow the front office will hold him accountable

  • @ettinosaomorodion7631
    @ettinosaomorodion7631 Месяц назад +1

    Bro… DJ is trash 😅

    • @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk
      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk  Месяц назад

      thats kool this oline has been trash for much longer sir

    • @ettinosaomorodion7631
      @ettinosaomorodion7631 Месяц назад +1

      @@WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk I agree but I see a major fault in DJs character, he just ain’t got the confidence or swagger to be a successful leader at quarterback. Plus his arm talent is suspect that’s why he couldn’t hit Galloday or Hyatt on those deep posts. Trust I would love nothing but to root for DJ, I’ve been a Gmen fan since 1990 I’ve seen Dave Brown play and that’s who’s he’s a 2.0 version of imo, it is what it is bro.

    • @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk
      @WelcomeToBigpatssportstalk  Месяц назад

      No sir DJ has plenty arm talent galloday couldn't separate it's a difference ​@@ettinosaomorodion7631

  • @dirtygiants
    @dirtygiants Месяц назад +1

    Would you change your batteries in the smoke detector.