I needed this. I've been stuck on tryna do a Timbo style bounce from the mid-late 2000s. So I can take these examples and go back head strong! Thanks Will!
when u get to god tier programer you realise that the degree of swing changes throughout rhythmic phrases. For example Crazy in love by beyonce, the drum sample progressively becomes straighter towards the end of bar which continually keeps the swing fresh.
A salute to the thumbnail. That scene from fade to black was classic. " I need something that got that bounce" .. "timbo says bounce coming up" Then plays a classic
A great reference for what "that bounce" sounds like is the song tell me when to go by E-40. I immediately thought of that watching this. Shit got bounce like a trampoline park.
When i listened to this, I was like this sounds like Bonobo, then you immediately just said its a little bit like bonobo haha. Such a good vid cos it talks about interest overt the whole arrangement rather than on just a 4 bar loop
Awesome stuff! I like how you seemlessly went from talking specifically about groove theory to some real composing strategies. I know for a fact that I will use The strategy of: making a bouncy loop, then at specific points muting (or removing) elements and introduce something more sporadic, like a fill or something. It truly felt like a hack. This was very useful for me, as I Am very new to producing music in DAWs. Thanks dude.
I totally agree with Squiggles, the quality of your videos (and effect racks) is amazing. Would love if you could make a complete (paid) course about groove. I have looked everywhere but there’s not much quality content I can find about hip hop type drums and not EDM style
It’s my absolute pleasure and I just thank everyone like you and Squiggles for showing so much support! Paid courses are in the pipeline but will work on more groove templates and episodes for the coming weeks!
That's a cleeeean mac tat I noticed on your arm there brother. I thought that's what it was when I saw the Pittsburgh P. He's a huge inspiration to me and part of the reason I'm here learning about Ableton. Great Video!
Thank you so much for the kind words and for noticing! Huge inspiration to me as well, our paths crossed only once but it’s an impression that will stay with me forever and, like you, keep me a student of the musical tools! Onwards and upwards!
wow, you weren't kidding I recognize the technique in professional music but have never worked out how to do it proper, really helpful video Will! and your demo loop was fire as always
Really nice mate - overall flavour of the track was cool too. One thing I've never been certain on with groove is, if I'm looking for that kind of push-pull vibe (think Ontario or Figures by Bonobo), which hits to do behind the beat and which ones to bring forward. Any thoughts on that?
Both can be achieved with hats! Hats in front of the snare sound pushed, hats behind the snare sound lazy. But generally there are no particular rules!
Does the Ableton delay actually print once you export the track on live 11? Cause that was an issue on 10 so I stuck with humanizing by manually moving the audio or midi.
I can never come up with rhythms like this in the first place. I don't know which kind of sound should go where. What am I missing, besides beating my head into the wall?
HOW DARE YOU TALK SHT ABOUT 100 GECS, "stupid horse" is the music Beethoven would be making if he was still alive, but NO he's dead af like a dead parrot, so Dylan Brady and Laura les, known as 100 gecs, decided to literally invent music PERIOD, to show sebastian bach and mozart how to make fking great music, cause apparently those mf are also dead, and they didnt make "stupid horse" even when the were alive right ?? how weird is it rlly ?? gec dropped their 1000 album and since then, every music making person on the entire planet earth has been very quiet, coincidence ??? NUH HUH, I don't think so !! Great vid tho :) !
a subtle thing but not having a little background music really makes this feel like a classroom situation and makes it less interesting, amazing content though thanks for uploading, learned a lot :)
This is better quality education than what I paid for at college 😂 Thanks man this one is real helpful
This is the best feedback I could have ever asked for 😂 thanks so much for stopping by friend!
@@WillHatton Seriously man, you should have ecourses or something.
@@squigglesmusic9660 I definitely have it in mind as the channel grows!
Too relatable 😂
The fact that you managed to make a melodic bounce out of a pad-alone-earned earned you my sub. Amazing work my guy.
Appreciate you, D! Thanks for the kind words
I needed this. I've been stuck on tryna do a Timbo style bounce from the mid-late 2000s. So I can take these examples and go back head strong! Thanks Will!
I’m so glad!!! My pleasure, let me know how you get on my friend! All the best.
when u get to god tier programer you realise that the degree of swing changes throughout rhythmic phrases. For example Crazy in love by beyonce, the drum sample progressively becomes straighter towards the end of bar which continually keeps the swing fresh.
Skipping the first 16th and coming in with that 808 pitch bend was amazing
A salute to the thumbnail. That scene from fade to black was classic. " I need something that got that bounce" .. "timbo says bounce coming up" Then plays a classic
Shout out to those in the know!
Yes mate!! Also - 10 yrs session drumming … let’s goooo! 🧡
Let's goooooo brother!
A great reference for what "that bounce" sounds like is the song tell me when to go by E-40. I immediately thought of that watching this. Shit got bounce like a trampoline park.
When i listened to this, I was like this sounds like Bonobo, then you immediately just said its a little bit like bonobo haha. Such a good vid cos it talks about interest overt the whole arrangement rather than on just a 4 bar loop
Don't be afraid to use those timestamps, friends!
0:00 - Intro
00:48 - Sound Selection is Key!
2:02 - Drums that BOUNCE!
4:08 - Interesting Bouncy Hats!
5:40 - Humanisation
6:34 - Tension & Release!
7:11 - Sponsor
7:52 - What is Melodic Bounce?
10:00 - Generating Intest
12:00 - Keeping an audience engaged
13:25 - Beat Battle?
Awesome stuff! I like how you seemlessly went from talking specifically about groove theory to some real composing strategies. I know for a fact that I will use The strategy of: making a bouncy loop, then at specific points muting (or removing) elements and introduce something more sporadic, like a fill or something. It truly felt like a hack.
This was very useful for me, as I Am very new to producing music in DAWs. Thanks dude.
Thanks so much for stopping by with such kind words, I’m glad it was useful! I’m super passionate about this subject!
I took so many notes on this video, thanks man
My pleasure! Thank YOU for stopping by
I totally agree with Squiggles, the quality of your videos (and effect racks) is amazing. Would love if you could make a complete (paid) course about groove. I have looked everywhere but there’s not much quality content I can find about hip hop type drums and not EDM style
It’s my absolute pleasure and I just thank everyone like you and Squiggles for showing so much support!
Paid courses are in the pipeline but will work on more groove templates and episodes for the coming weeks!
@@WillHatton great!!
Great suggestions...esp the melodic part. Adding other sounds in there, other than just rhythm.
My pleasure! Thanks for stopping by bud!
Thank you! I always wanted to talk about this.
My pleasure!
that 100 gecs diss was uncalled for
That's a cleeeean mac tat I noticed on your arm there brother. I thought that's what it was when I saw the Pittsburgh P. He's a huge inspiration to me and part of the reason I'm here learning about Ableton. Great Video!
Thank you so much for the kind words and for noticing! Huge inspiration to me as well, our paths crossed only once but it’s an impression that will stay with me forever and, like you, keep me a student of the musical tools!
Onwards and upwards!
Points for the yellow hat
Very very helpful. 👍 Thx for the gems. And by the way, the Bounce/Beat was awesome! Keep up the good work. Liked an subscribed. 😬🤞✌ Have a nice one.
Appreciate it, thanks!
wow, you weren't kidding I recognize the technique in professional music but have never worked out how to do it proper, really helpful video Will! and your demo loop was fire as always
Thanks so much small claw!! Biggup
Great ideas and inspiring video!
Thanks so much!
These videos are so high quality
Please release this 🌝
If the people want it! 🌝🌝🌝
Results are in folks, the people want it
@@isaiahday3469 oh - you guysssss
good work
Thanks dude! I've been trying to learn better methods for creating grooves and this was very insightful.
Happy to help Aaron!
Ayyyy great tutorial thanks!!
My hero! Thank YOU
Thanks
Good stuff! 👍🏽
That's a good one, thanks man, very helpful ideas!
Wooow man... great tutorial, thanks
Thank you so much! Means a lot to get your feedback!
Super sweet beat! Thank you for the vid and explanations 😊
Thank you, sir!
This beat is insane
Love this walk through! Thank you
Thanks for swinging by!
Dope video man! Love your channel!
Thank you so much, Jeremiah! Means the world
Lol that cut from the jpegmafia vid, I fucking love that video
So meme worthy! 😂 Denzel is the GOAT!
@@WillHatton yeah definitely, have you listened to much Jpeg?
@@tobiaslivsey416 Yeah man, actually really love his stuff for the most part!
this is spot on man, subbed
It’s really appreciated Andy, thank you!
Liking the topics broo.. thanks
My pleasure!
Useful in todays bedroom Produce Generation
Absolutely!
Video was super helpful dude!
I’m so glad, brother!
Not the 100 gecs slander 😭
ikr its so much more bouncy
Yesssss!
🙌🏼🙌🏼❤️
Really nice mate - overall flavour of the track was cool too. One thing I've never been certain on with groove is, if I'm looking for that kind of push-pull vibe (think Ontario or Figures by Bonobo), which hits to do behind the beat and which ones to bring forward. Any thoughts on that?
Both can be achieved with hats!
Hats in front of the snare sound pushed, hats behind the snare sound lazy. But generally there are no particular rules!
Just earned a new sub great content 😎
Subscriber unlocked!!!
Appreciate you Doc, cheers
Beyoncé and jigga hit this guys line asap
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Cool
12:18 aha moment !
Is this from that Bolo ft YDG song very similar 😲
wow the delay button is crazyy
Does the Ableton delay actually print once you export the track on live 11? Cause that was an issue on 10 so I stuck with humanizing by manually moving the audio or midi.
I can never come up with rhythms like this in the first place. I don't know which kind of sound should go where. What am I missing, besides beating my head into the wall?
This is sick :p
Thank you Samuel, so good to see your name again! I hope you’ve been well!
@@WillHatton ow sorry man, I’ve been lurking a lot lately 😄 I’m doing great man 👍🏾
@@samuelnaesen1176 so glad to hear it my friend!
Can you send new Discord link, please? The old one doesn't work(
Michael Jackson is King off groove to
P O L Y R H Y T H M S
just play it and dont quantize.
HOW DARE YOU TALK SHT ABOUT 100 GECS, "stupid horse" is the music Beethoven would be making if he was still alive, but NO he's dead af like a dead parrot, so Dylan Brady and Laura les, known as 100 gecs, decided to literally invent music PERIOD, to show sebastian bach and mozart how to make fking great music, cause apparently those mf are also dead, and they didnt make "stupid horse" even when the were alive right ?? how weird is it rlly ?? gec dropped their 1000 album and since then, every music making person on the entire planet earth has been very quiet, coincidence ??? NUH HUH, I don't think so !!
Great vid tho :) !
Thanks bud ;)
a subtle thing but not having a little background music really makes this feel like a classroom situation and makes it less interesting, amazing content though thanks for uploading, learned a lot :)
Probably my least favorite Jay Z beat ever. Sounds like it was made with a fisher price keyboard
What’s your favourite?
Too much talking. Not enough demonstration.
Cool