25-06 Ackley Improved

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @davidhayes7596
    @davidhayes7596 10 месяцев назад +9

    Thank you for this long overdue video. The plain 25-06 is Loved by many. Most people that have it for whitetail, won't hear of anything else. The 25-06 Ackley is phenomenal.

  • @Hummingbyrd99
    @Hummingbyrd99 Год назад +8

    This is a cartridge I almost never mention to anyone just because it’s almost unheard of. Too many want factory offerings in both rifle and ammo but with this you can’t get that. I appreciate you covering this 🙏

  • @johnkaraphillis754
    @johnkaraphillis754 Год назад +5

    It is a cool cartridge and glad you did a video. A couple people on the forum shoot this cartridge and have achieved excellent results especially with Hammer Bullets. I’ll stick with my .280AI. Thanks

  • @hunteranderson93
    @hunteranderson93 Год назад +5

    So glad you covered this cartridge. My dad and I saw a nice Ruger M77 ( the older one with the tang safety) in a pawn shop for a pretty decent price but we didn’t end up getting it. Later on I got to thinking that it would be a perfect rifle to convert to 25-06 AI and do a few upgrades to it and make it an awesome deer and antelope rifle! So I have been looking into the 25-06 AI a little and it’s great to see you cover it in one of your videos. Next time I am in there I may have to see if they still have that old rifle!

  • @patrickgallagher4344
    @patrickgallagher4344 Год назад +19

    This is the real gunsmith Randy Selbys favorite cartridge! He should know he’s been making rifles longer then most of us have been alive! lol 😂

    • @TODinWY
      @TODinWY Год назад +2

      He made mine. Outstanding!

    • @patrickgallagher4344
      @patrickgallagher4344 Год назад +1

      @@TODinWY what caliber was the rifle in bud?

    • @scottsammons7747
      @scottsammons7747 Год назад

      ​@@TODinWYmade one for me as well. A takedown switch barrel in 25,30,&338 - 06 all AI. Perhaps a quicker twist than the 10, would have stabilized some of the newer bullets from. Hornady better? 338 AI was silly on my part just a strait up 338 - 06 but I was looking for extended case life.

    • @TODinWY
      @TODinWY Год назад

      @@patrickgallagher4344 Randy's favorite caliber.

    • @jwdundon
      @jwdundon 4 месяца назад

      That's why I'm here. I was just watching his video where he says you can push 120 grain bullet 3450 ft per second with that 25.6 do you have the right to.

  • @sylviacandler5541
    @sylviacandler5541 Год назад +2

    I fire formed with 14.6g of bullseye, filled the case with cream of wheat, and piece of paper towel stuffed down in to keep the mess from falling out. A perfectly formed case is the result. I push a patch down the barrel every 25 rounds.
    The advantage is brass is available. Federal and Nosler brass is soft in the case head, you will lose primer pockets.
    Winchester Brass is great. Lapua is the very, very toughest in 30/06. The Easy button is the 25/06 brass, but we have not seen Winchester brass in a few years.
    We have been shooting the 110g Nosler accubond and the 115g Berger with some amazing accuracy, and deer just flop. The old 117g Sierra btsp is a bullet that just hammers deer hard, but the BC is not that good for 500-600 yard shots.
    With a Gentry muzzle break this cartridge indeed becomes one of your favorite, hard-hitting cartridges of all time. With some of the new HIGH BC bullets, very long range shooting is now a Reality.

  • @toddvandyke8737
    @toddvandyke8737 Год назад +1

    Great video! The 25-06AI is one of my favorites. Thanks for posting this.

  • @Wheelchair-bear
    @Wheelchair-bear 11 месяцев назад +3

    It is impressive; I have a 257 Robert's A.I., a 250 Savage A.I. and a 257 Weatherby. I love them all, surprisingly, the 250 A.I. is very close to the Roberts A.I., with 87 grain. I am getting 3380 FPS and 3409 fps out of them. With heavier bullets the margin gets bigger with the Robert.
    The 250 Savage A.I. case is very similar to the Creedmoor case.
    I always thought the 6.5 x 55 Ackley, in a modern rifle would be sweet.

  • @Borntobife
    @Borntobife Год назад +4

    Great video, thanks for the video!!...it seems to me there is still good reasons to follow the good old calibers and its siblings , 30-06 parent case availability for cases, new 130ish and a bit more heavier bullets coming out, a selection of slow powders and given is a relatively barrel burner it seems a 1 in 8 / 1 in 7 twist will get with a 26" tube will be a real good contender for a not magnum related caliber. Personally I¨ll go this route for my .25-06 Ruger No1 when the rifle needs rebarreling, heck possibly sooner!, the lack of bolt action will give me enough room to put a longer barrel to squeeze maximum velocity and still be a handy hunter rig. Thanks again for the effort!. Regards from Argentina, D.

  • @JimParvin-o9e
    @JimParvin-o9e 4 месяца назад +1

    I've got 2 vanguards, a 25-06 and a 300 win mag. I really enjoy both and they do the job everytime on anything.

  • @Jeff_Seely
    @Jeff_Seely Год назад +2

    I've never even seen a 25-06AI or any of its stats until now but I agree with you that it probably is in the top 3 AI designs. And compared with the 257 Weatherby, it fills some big shoes. In terms of power, not many Weatherby cartridges withstand much competition and this cartridge really does! Thanks for a really great video introduction to this cartridge.

  • @gpax-6197
    @gpax-6197 Год назад

    Thank you for posting. This is my goto cartridge for just about everything. Not enough is said about it.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Год назад

      Thanks for watching

    • @jwdundon
      @jwdundon 4 месяца назад

      What twist rate is your barrel? What bullets? (I MIGHT make a custom with a custom barrel, with that, I can get any twist ... Do they make a HIGH BC bullets???

  • @kirkmartin2223
    @kirkmartin2223 Год назад +1

    I got one with a 7.5tw 26" barrel. Best decision on a cartridge I've made. I have 5x fired brass that I've never had to trim. If you can find RWS 270win brass it's better than Lapua for fire forming. Norma 270win brass is pretty good also. If your chamber is set up properly by your Smith you can use factory 25-06 ammo in a pinch.
    The down side..... my rifle loves retumbo and RL26 which have been extinct for almost 3 years. Fire forming can be easily done during barrel break in and my fire forming loads were still 1/2moa just not as fast as fully formed loads.

  • @waynemayle865
    @waynemayle865 Год назад +2

    I own a Savage model 110 heavy barrel 25-06 i run 85gr nosler with reloader 19 an she's moving along pretty fast

  • @DuaneSiercks
    @DuaneSiercks 2 месяца назад +1

    Sierra Bullets does have valid load data. I work there and was involved deeply in the collection of that data.

  • @forward1165
    @forward1165 Год назад +1

    Excellent video! I’m sure you are referring to bolt action cartridges for the most part but in my opinion the two cartridges that gain the most in their Ackley versions are number one-25-35 Winchester and number two-348 Winchester. I can get over 200 feet per second easily out of my 348 without even pushing it. If you’ve ever seen the factory cartridges it’s not hard to see why.

  • @phild9813
    @phild9813 Год назад +2

    This looks sweet. With high BC bullets coming in the 25s, this could be a awesome opportunity for a custom rifle. Maybe would need a magnum length action for the long bullets though??

  • @baitammo4652
    @baitammo4652 Год назад +1

    Really enjoyed this!

  • @jorgeservin9102
    @jorgeservin9102 Год назад +1

    to give a second life to the bushings already used what should I learn and what tool is used

  • @TODinWY
    @TODinWY Год назад +1

    You could look for a Weatherby ULW in .25-06 and have it set back and re-chambered. I decided to re-barrel because I wanted 26", and a faster twist. I have a "LITE" in a very light package. Shoots bugholes.

  • @mikecrotts3943
    @mikecrotts3943 2 дня назад

    I have a reming 721 30-06 that needs a new barrel. I have been thinking about a 280ai, the has me intrigued. Where do you find load data for the 25-06ai? I have seen dies and I'd probably fire form brass with factory 25-06 ammo. I have seen 243 reloads work for 243ai fire forming. they shot really well.
    the 280ai is just an easier direction but this cartridge seems like it would be a nice shooter

  • @MrJoelJ1
    @MrJoelJ1 Год назад +1

    Berger publishes .25-06 AI load data for their 135 grain LR Hybrid using a 26" barrrel. One very interesting load is the following:
    Alliant RE 26
    Min. 53.0 grains @2812 FPS
    Max. 58.2 grains @3063 FPS
    Approx. fill ratio of 91%.
    This load provides the best speed per volume of powder of more than a couple dozen tested.
    According to the Berger calculator, at 500 yards this load would deliver around 2550 FPS, 1950 ft. lbs., -36" drop, and 12.5" wind drift (15 mph 9 o-clock). A very potent and flat shooting round for sure.

  • @stephencooper5040
    @stephencooper5040 Год назад +1

    Would love to see the drop and drift chart with a 200 yard zero which is much more conducive to longer range shooting.

  • @3Beehivesto300
    @3Beehivesto300 15 дней назад

    What is your preferred brass for fire forming?

  • @TroyPosey
    @TroyPosey 3 месяца назад +1

    The thumbnail image you used (the .25-06 Rem vs. .25-06 AI in front of the smoke gray frankford arsenal box) is actually one of my pictures I took of my .25-06 AI case next to a standard .25-06 Rem. and posted on LRH and LRO...I used to go by MudRunner2005 before I got banned from both forums. Glad to see someone using it for views...Just wish my videos would get this many views and subs... LOL

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for the picture! Sorry for using it without your permission...

  • @bradleytyrrell4417
    @bradleytyrrell4417 Год назад

    Another 2 ai cartridges are the 243ai and the 270ai I own both and they perform well above what most people think. Awesome content mate

  • @troypeterson5536
    @troypeterson5536 3 месяца назад

    What does brass cost, for the 6mm PRC?

  • @brandonrenner9597
    @brandonrenner9597 Год назад +1

    Got lucky last year and got 25-06 hornady factory loaded 25$ box and got 15 boxes lol I'll never run out of brass hopefully

  • @bobhamilton7472
    @bobhamilton7472 Год назад +1

    What would we have if we took the 6.5 rpm Weatherby case and necked it down to. 257 dia.?

  • @jameswilson5562
    @jameswilson5562 Год назад +1

    Interesting round

  • @hopefulballistics
    @hopefulballistics Год назад +1

    Enjoyed the video

  • @Calaveras32Spcl
    @Calaveras32Spcl Год назад

    I am considering a custom target rifle in 25-06, and trying to determine if the fire form needed to go AI would be worth it. Also having a hard time funding Go/No-Go guages.

  • @dschuetz68
    @dschuetz68 3 месяца назад

    I’ve done 3500 with a regular 25-06 with ttsx bullets behind some H1000. I have put a fast twist barrel on this thing and improved it. You can go 3400 fps plus with the 135 Bergers

  • @csalsb
    @csalsb Год назад

    Nice breakdown. If you want to see another quarter bore wildcat. Check out the 25 SST from Sherman Wildcats. It is an absolute beast.

  • @brandonrenner9597
    @brandonrenner9597 Год назад +1

    Mines to good shooting to change to AI but been thinking on find something used cheap to make one

  • @linkchen8245
    @linkchen8245 Год назад +1

    25 cal is so underated. I personally think 25 cal is the best bullet diameter for a short action especially for a 308case . 6.5 cm is a tad slow with the highest bc bullets and 6mm is a bit too fast. 25 cal is right on prefect

  • @tacticalmattfoley
    @tacticalmattfoley Год назад +1

    If someone handed me a 25-06AI cartridge, like the one shown in the thumbnail, I'd think it was a Weatherby load at first blush until noticing the absence of a belt. That is an extremely blown out shoulder.

  • @mikemauton
    @mikemauton Год назад +3

    257 Roberts A.I. is another great A.I. cartridge.

    • @jimmiealldredge1939
      @jimmiealldredge1939 Год назад +1

      My choice in 25 caliber.

    • @TODinWY
      @TODinWY Год назад +1

      Mike, P.O. thought the 250-3000 AI was the cartridge that most benefitted from his improvement.

  • @withoutprejudice8301
    @withoutprejudice8301 4 месяца назад

    Wasn't willing to AI my Browning Medallion (1st Gen), but leaning towards AI-ing my Savage mdl. 110.

  • @bustabass9025
    @bustabass9025 Год назад +2

    257 Wby with the 100 grain TTSX is load I shot the last mulie with...the one that got away. 😫

  • @GinoDistefano-jf7eh
    @GinoDistefano-jf7eh Год назад

    Beautiful Cartridge, more speed. Weatherby been doing this for longtime with lots of Cartridges

  • @brandonrenner9597
    @brandonrenner9597 Год назад +3

    22-250AI be probably funnest speed wise

    • @luvtahandload7692
      @luvtahandload7692 Год назад +1

      I have one, from H-S Precision when they were still in Arizona. I vividly recall the first crow I took with it. It was vaporized. Rained black feathers for what seemed like many minutes. 😅 This gun put 5 shots of the Winchester Supreme factory load into 1/4 MOA @ 100 yds, while fire-forming of course.😊

  • @jeffreywilson690
    @jeffreywilson690 Год назад +1

    Work the numbers on the 6mm prc
    105 grain @3400 with .531 bc

  • @elizabethnybeck9935
    @elizabethnybeck9935 6 месяцев назад

    Love my 25

  • @randylong8156
    @randylong8156 Год назад +3

    The 25 cal is almost my favorite. I've got them all fr9m the 25-35 through the wild cats. I kill elk with the 25-06 AI.

  • @PeterLukeable
    @PeterLukeable 2 месяца назад

    The 25-06 AI is a big improvement in more than ballistics. It's also less bore erosion and gives a better barrel time & pressure curve.

  • @philrizzo
    @philrizzo Год назад +2

    Extra capacity will be nice with these new heavier bullets

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Год назад +2

      Yep! You could have a sweet long range rifle.

    • @philrizzo
      @philrizzo Год назад +1

      I’m blowing out brass for the .25 Sherman LA right now…​@@ReloadingWeatherby

  • @scottsammons7747
    @scottsammons7747 Год назад +1

    Love it. But the best AI? For me 30-30 AI in a Savage 99! It blows people's minds at the range.

  • @warnniklz
    @warnniklz Месяц назад

    The only data I have is
    57 grains of Reloader 22 behind a 120 grain nosler partition
    61 grains of H1000 with a 117 grain Sierra Spitzer

  • @chub4141
    @chub4141 2 месяца назад

    RW the problem the 2506 had is its case size they were complaining about inconsistent burn rates in the case making for poor patterns.And when the 243 came out you get only 150 to 200 fps slower and the same in fps at 25 percent less powder and far less recoil .I have a o6 in a ruger heavy barrel and it kicks like a mule

  • @patrickjoseph5028
    @patrickjoseph5028 Год назад

    P.O.Ackley said this cartridge offered the least improvement of his improved cartridges…2506 cases tend to grow in length with each resizing…the improved version fixes that but fireforming or trimming once for the life of the case is easier to me….2506 really doesn’t need improving…I’ve used it for 35 years in Nevada open sagebrush it doesn’t need improving.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Год назад +1

      Never said it needed improving. Some people just want to be different and a little more power

  • @jwdundon
    @jwdundon 4 месяца назад +1

    I have a FN mauser action in 30-06, i was going to build a custom 30-06, been thinking about making it a 280 AI. NOW, HUMMM 2BIT 06, AI, hummmm

  • @EricChmelarsky
    @EricChmelarsky 4 месяца назад +1

    Aahhhh, 25.06 AI. 24" bbl, increase the twist rate. Load up the long high bc ace bullets. 131-135 grain im guessing. Could be on to something with this one.😮

  • @drdes9609
    @drdes9609 Год назад +4

    257 roberts ai to me is the best gain and there’s load data.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Год назад +3

      That's fair

    • @drdes9609
      @drdes9609 Год назад +2

      @@ReloadingWeatherby you are right about 25-06 AI though and it has better brass life.

    • @anthonykaiser974
      @anthonykaiser974 Год назад +2

      I'll take a 250 Savage Ackley Improved - a Short Action Bob. Now to get Nosler to submit to SAAMI.

    • @luvtahandload7692
      @luvtahandload7692 Год назад

      ​@@anthonykaiser974neck that up .007" and...wall-la! 6.5 Creedmoor.
      The standard Bob has been chambered in short actions.

    • @anthonykaiser974
      @anthonykaiser974 Год назад +1

      @@luvtahandload7692 the word is "Voila!" meaning "there it is," from French.

  • @barrymunns7706
    @barrymunns7706 Год назад

    Well since you are a big 270 win fan I think you should look into a 270 ai.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Год назад

      I'm a big 270 fan? I'm not reloading 270 Winchester haha

    • @barrymunns7706
      @barrymunns7706 Год назад

      @@ReloadingWeatherby I know you are cause you loaded heavies for it. Cause I watched the video

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Год назад +1

      @@barrymunns7706 I appreciate you watching. I'm a much bigger fan of Weatherby cartridges. But the 270 AI would be cool

  • @nmelkhunter1
    @nmelkhunter1 5 дней назад

    The morale of the story is if you don’t like the performance from the 25-06, get a 257 Weatherby and move on with life.

  • @willbyrd3445
    @willbyrd3445 Год назад +1

    P.O. Ackley put a book out that has reloading data

    • @TODinWY
      @TODinWY Год назад +2

      You are right, but the data is too old to be of much help. No new powder data.

    • @randylee9095
      @randylee9095 10 месяцев назад +1

      The old powders still works

    • @davidhayes7596
      @davidhayes7596 10 месяцев назад

      That's great information. Thank you

  • @chriscunnane7596
    @chriscunnane7596 Год назад +1

    use 30-06 convert with dies to 25-AI much cheaprt to shoot than a weatherdy

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Год назад +2

      Are you factoring in that you can reload 257 Weatherby for much cheaper as well? I did the cost for you even with the inflated prices. 25-06 AI should be around $1.67 to reload. 257 WBY is $2.05 to reload.

  • @brandonrenner9597
    @brandonrenner9597 Год назад

    🥵

  • @weinerdog137
    @weinerdog137 Год назад

    Impressive, but not enough improvement to bother. Imo

  • @wurlabyscott
    @wurlabyscott Год назад +1

    Hornady makes 25-06 brass, i've been necking it up to 6.5-06 AI which I think is a much better cartridge.

  • @Noname1234-p3g
    @Noname1234-p3g 2 месяца назад

    Love my 25 06 ackley. Speer 87 grain tnt hp. 100 gr. Nosler ballistic tip. Nosler 120 gr partian. Coyotes, deer