Well in good news, you mentioned the Orville and I looked it up and saw a new season is apparently confirmed! Just published today on Screen Rant! Hooray!
@@AGoodPlace365 I literally just typed "The Orville" into Google News upon hearing it mentioned and there was a 2 hour old article from Screen Rant saying Seth had confirmed it. I am very hopeful it is true and works out!
I found it hilarious that the solution to their problems was revealing how Burnham and Raynor knew and loved everyone in the crew. I still don't know who any of these people are and only know a couple of names and it's been 5 seasons. Great review, as always!
Raynor: "All I'm saying guys is that we should have a modicum of professionalism, respect for the chain of command, maybe program the replicator to restrict calories for some crew members and that we probably don't need a cry and a cuddle before every away mission." Discovery Crew: "GRUP! GRUP! GRUP!"
Maybe we should call Raynor "Space Scrooge". They made him an arsehole, he visits the past, future and present and then realizes professionalism is like greed and, by experiencing what the results are when there is no chain of command and nothing matters except the glory of Michael Burnham, he then becomes a reformed man in full repent. "What day is it, boy?!" "Why, it's Discovery day, sir." Later, in the bar, Raynor picks up "Tiny" Tilly in a warm moment of agonizing pain (from the resulting hernia). He ignores the pain and Tiny Tilly utters that familiar phrase, "May Michael Burnham, bless us -- everyone!"
Raynor: What if I disagree with you Burnham? Burnham: just make sure the setting is on stun. Works for me. Raynor: How did You become captain, Burnham? Burnham; Well it turns out the previous captain was from the mirror universe and so promoted me. And then, after a few episodes, people just forgot about it and I became captain! Burnham: But please watch the show, because I'm apologizing again, going to admit that familiarity breeds contempt, plus, look, I'm introducing you guys to the crew again. So you got to love it!
You hit it on the head: Discovery style non-sense. I forgot about the thingie on Adira's arm, but frankly, I didn't care. You reviews though. . great as always!
Message: "We succeeded because we know each other". But at the same time, Burnham failed to convince HERSELF! Then she fails to convince anybody of the bridge crew, but Airiam by telling her that she will die in the future. Why, how? Who knows. I also don't understand what the two smugglers are trying to do. They are after money, so why not simply sell their intel to the federation as they would pay a lot for it? The federation would be the highest bidder as they are the only one who is after this device so badly. Why does the progenitor device what is meant to create life on planets (and destroy existing) destroy a space station? Nothing makes any sense
I wanted to see lorca airiam in command i was dumbfounded but i guess i have to force myself to accept maybe lorca wasnt on duty but wouldn't saru be in command ik he left discovery but this was in s1 where he was still on board
*Update:* Watched ep 4 last night. Despite it being a rather pointless episode, as most are, this one at least kept me watching til the end due to the time travel theme (which I usually like in Trek). But the overarching issue w Discovery remains the same, a bankrupt writing staff grasping for ideas without really providing realistic characters, and oh yes, actors going along with the farce in the same ole same ole sappy touchy-feely way. One thing I did like was the brief 3 seconds that Owosekun was finally given a few lines in which she struck me as very credible and even burly in a cool way... that flash in the pan was the only moment that I remember caring for. I'd give her a future in Star Trek as a character (in a diff series), but that won't happen. *Original post:* I haven't yet seen ep 4, but will tonight. But I can't help but echo your sentiment that Discovery is not good, not even close. And not just because they've broken canon from Day 1, but also because the writing and dialogs are basically off the wall stupid, most of the time. And the over-the-top politically correct, sappy emotionalism displayed in every single episode is sickening because it's so contrived and obvious. Hey I don't have a single thing against gender fluidity, personal relationships in the heat of battle, etc... but Discovery drips with it in a forced, unnatural manner, cloying and off-target way, in my sole opinion. I have a difficult time watching every single episode. But I do so because I've watched (multiple times often) every Star Trek show that exists, and must watch Discovery to keep that status. I even watched the original series TOS when it originally aired way back in the mid-60s. Woof! Discovery is the show that should've never gotten started. Meanwhile you have the superb Strange New Worlds and the rest of the franchise showing much better sensibility, balance and adherence to canon, most of the time (don't mention Kelvin timeline). Just had to get this off my chest. So, tonight I'll watch ep 4, grudgingly.
@@stopgeorge True, but I talked with the actress that played Ariam at a Star Trek convention and she told me how much she missed doing the part. I guess that's the biggest reason I'm glad she got to do it again.
@@sandyzalecki1145 She could have been another interesting character. All of the interesting characters on Nu Trek are either killed off or neutered. Hemmer and Captain Pike are other examples.
Sounds like the continuing adventures of Mikey B and the USS Kleenex is still setting the lowest bar, as is the norm. I can't bare to watch it so thank you for your sacrifice. 🙏
Hey UKDM, been a minute. Had a health thing, back now. But yeah this is a probably the first time I disagree with your take. I thought it was so much better than the average Discovery dreck. The overall conceit of it, the temporal sabotage, leading to a bottle episode with some actual plausible-sounding technobabble and some decent scenes that weren't all run and gun, no thinking just 'splosion, pew pew drivel was a welcome change from the norm. Also, at this point, the fact that Discovery is The Michael Burnham show just has to be accepted that this is just how it's going to be right until the bitter end, so bashing it for being Space Jesus & The NPCs is rather moot. It's akin to hating the color blue then reviewing a show called "Literally Everything is Blue" and still raking it over coals 5 seasons in because everything is still blue. I nearly died recently... I'm trying to be all zen about this stuff now haha. Likewise with some of the plot contrivances like Stammets' retardigrade DNA, it's stupid but it's established so it kinda just is what it is. If judging each episode on it's own merit the fair move is not to ding it for the sins of older episodes, even stupid older episodes. And I do think that yeah, on it's own merit this episode was better than most Discovery episodes. It was refreshing to have just an old fashioned TNG-style bottle episode dealing with some anomalous sci-fi thing. I didn't think Michael was overly praised here and actually though the Burnham vs Burnham stuff worked. Funny though, in keeping with the Burnham gets too much praise thing they literally (in a roundabout way) has Michael praising herself at the end for how much she'd changed as a person since season one, that only hit me as you we're bemoaning people praising her and I had a good laugh at that. Anyway, I've rambled enough for now, here's hoping I catch the live stream to hash this stuff out with you and the other peeps (the Danger Gang? UK Danger Fans? Anywho.) Later mate.
Hi Jackie. glad you are back, hope you are well. I'm glad you liked it. Everyone can't agree on everything all the time. I just felt that the good concept behind the episode turned in to "oh look how awesome burnham is" waste of a good concept. Good to hear from you :)
It’s amazing how much of this “review” hinges on your audience not actually watching the show Although watching your epileptic spasm of a review can be entertaining solely on offhand chance you give your a stroke Making up ways to preform your fake outrage
It becomes once again the Burnham show ? It's literally been that for every second, it's been on air. Krenim temporal spiders, is an absolutely shyte concept.
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Well in good news, you mentioned the Orville and I looked it up and saw a new season is apparently confirmed! Just published today on Screen Rant! Hooray!
U serious, please don't play with my heart
I've not seen that. Pop it in the discord and I will have a look. 👍
@@AGoodPlace365 I literally just typed "The Orville" into Google News upon hearing it mentioned and there was a 2 hour old article from Screen Rant saying Seth had confirmed it. I am very hopeful it is true and works out!
I found it hilarious that the solution to their problems was revealing how Burnham and Raynor knew and loved everyone in the crew. I still don't know who any of these people are and only know a couple of names and it's been 5 seasons.
Great review, as always!
Thanks Clayton
Its great to hear from you as always :) Hope you are well my friend. 😊
Raynor: "All I'm saying guys is that we should have a modicum of professionalism, respect for the chain of command, maybe program the replicator to restrict calories for some crew members and that we probably don't need a cry and a cuddle before every away mission."
Discovery Crew: "GRUP! GRUP! GRUP!"
Maybe we should call Raynor "Space Scrooge". They made him an arsehole, he visits the past, future and present and then realizes professionalism is like greed and, by experiencing what the results are when there is no chain of command and nothing matters except the glory of Michael Burnham, he then becomes a reformed man in full repent.
"What day is it, boy?!"
"Why, it's Discovery day, sir."
Later, in the bar, Raynor picks up "Tiny" Tilly in a warm moment of agonizing pain (from the resulting hernia). He ignores the pain and Tiny Tilly utters that familiar phrase, "May Michael Burnham, bless us -- everyone!"
Raynor: What if I disagree with you Burnham?
Burnham: just make sure the setting is on stun. Works for me.
Raynor: How did You become captain, Burnham?
Burnham; Well it turns out the previous captain was from the mirror universe and so promoted me.
And then, after a few episodes, people just forgot about it and I became captain!
Burnham: But please watch the show, because I'm apologizing again, going to admit that familiarity breeds contempt, plus, look, I'm introducing you guys to the crew again. So you got to love it!
Great episode!
You hit it on the head: Discovery style non-sense. I forgot about the thingie on Adira's arm, but frankly, I didn't care.
You reviews though. . great as always!
Omg it’s like they are saying we don’t give a crap anymore we are the bestest ever. Look what we have done over the last 5 seasons 😂😂
What a hillarious channel I've found! Greetings from Ukraine.
Great to have you here :)
All episodes should have a warning it will cause cringe induced nausea.
I was thinking something similar. Haha!
They all are so it would be redundant.
Message: "We succeeded because we know each other". But at the same time, Burnham failed to convince HERSELF! Then she fails to convince anybody of the bridge crew, but Airiam by telling her that she will die in the future. Why, how? Who knows. I also don't understand what the two smugglers are trying to do. They are after money, so why not simply sell their intel to the federation as they would pay a lot for it? The federation would be the highest bidder as they are the only one who is after this device so badly. Why does the progenitor device what is meant to create life on planets (and destroy existing) destroy a space station? Nothing makes any sense
I wanted to see lorca airiam in command i was dumbfounded but i guess i have to force myself to accept maybe lorca wasnt on duty but wouldn't saru be in command ik he left discovery but this was in s1 where he was still on board
LOL ⚡⚡⚡
*Update:*
Watched ep 4 last night. Despite it being a rather pointless episode, as most are, this one at least kept me watching til the end due to the time travel theme (which I usually like in Trek). But the overarching issue w Discovery remains the same, a bankrupt writing staff grasping for ideas without really providing realistic characters, and oh yes, actors going along with the farce in the same ole same ole sappy touchy-feely way. One thing I did like was the brief 3 seconds that Owosekun was finally given a few lines in which she struck me as very credible and even burly in a cool way... that flash in the pan was the only moment that I remember caring for. I'd give her a future in Star Trek as a character (in a diff series), but that won't happen.
*Original post:*
I haven't yet seen ep 4, but will tonight. But I can't help but echo your sentiment that Discovery is not good, not even close. And not just because they've broken canon from Day 1, but also because the writing and dialogs are basically off the wall stupid, most of the time. And the over-the-top politically correct, sappy emotionalism displayed in every single episode is sickening because it's so contrived and obvious. Hey I don't have a single thing against gender fluidity, personal relationships in the heat of battle, etc... but Discovery drips with it in a forced, unnatural manner, cloying and off-target way, in my sole opinion. I have a difficult time watching every single episode. But I do so because I've watched (multiple times often) every Star Trek show that exists, and must watch Discovery to keep that status. I even watched the original series TOS when it originally aired way back in the mid-60s. Woof! Discovery is the show that should've never gotten started. Meanwhile you have the superb Strange New Worlds and the rest of the franchise showing much better sensibility, balance and adherence to canon, most of the time (don't mention Kelvin timeline). Just had to get this off my chest. So, tonight I'll watch ep 4, grudgingly.
I realized while watching it...the setup was not impactful emotionally, it felt...dead, and the lack of better lighting didn't help.
There will be a last super scene, I feel it, then Judas Burnham gets into a red angel telephone booth.. Allons-y!?
call it SHI.... TTERED instead of Shattered.... lol j/k, i kinda liked this one
I did like that Ariam was back. Again it was all space Jesus.
Too bad the dialog was cringe.
@@stopgeorge True, but I talked with the actress that played Ariam at a Star Trek convention and she told me how much she missed doing the part. I guess that's the biggest reason I'm glad she got to do it again.
@@sandyzalecki1145 She could have been another interesting character. All of the interesting characters on Nu Trek are either killed off or neutered. Hemmer and Captain Pike are other examples.
Mirrors is next. Hooray. 🤢
lol
A ten episode season doesn‘t require a single filler episode. But a ChatGPT written one does.
Sounds like the continuing adventures of Mikey B and the USS Kleenex is still setting the lowest bar, as is the norm. I can't bare to watch it so thank you for your sacrifice. 🙏
Hey UKDM, been a minute. Had a health thing, back now. But yeah this is a probably the first time I disagree with your take. I thought it was so much better than the average Discovery dreck. The overall conceit of it, the temporal sabotage, leading to a bottle episode with some actual plausible-sounding technobabble and some decent scenes that weren't all run and gun, no thinking just 'splosion, pew pew drivel was a welcome change from the norm. Also, at this point, the fact that Discovery is The Michael Burnham show just has to be accepted that this is just how it's going to be right until the bitter end, so bashing it for being Space Jesus & The NPCs is rather moot. It's akin to hating the color blue then reviewing a show called "Literally Everything is Blue" and still raking it over coals 5 seasons in because everything is still blue. I nearly died recently... I'm trying to be all zen about this stuff now haha.
Likewise with some of the plot contrivances like Stammets' retardigrade DNA, it's stupid but it's established so it kinda just is what it is. If judging each episode on it's own merit the fair move is not to ding it for the sins of older episodes, even stupid older episodes. And I do think that yeah, on it's own merit this episode was better than most Discovery episodes. It was refreshing to have just an old fashioned TNG-style bottle episode dealing with some anomalous sci-fi thing. I didn't think Michael was overly praised here and actually though the Burnham vs Burnham stuff worked. Funny though, in keeping with the Burnham gets too much praise thing they literally (in a roundabout way) has Michael praising herself at the end for how much she'd changed as a person since season one, that only hit me as you we're bemoaning people praising her and I had a good laugh at that. Anyway, I've rambled enough for now, here's hoping I catch the live stream to hash this stuff out with you and the other peeps (the Danger Gang? UK Danger Fans? Anywho.) Later mate.
Hi Jackie. glad you are back, hope you are well. I'm glad you liked it. Everyone can't agree on everything all the time. I just felt that the good concept behind the episode turned in to "oh look how awesome burnham is" waste of a good concept.
Good to hear from you :)
I'd rather watch your reviews than the actual show😂 makes me more happy that I stopped watching that Nu Trek mess
Glad i could help lol
Having two space jesuses on the the same ship leads to the plot conviniences to amplify each other😂
So it's a filler "bottle" episode meant to pad out this absolute piffle and tommy-rot?
Other shows have filler episode but ST.D has filler seasons
It’s amazing how much of this “review” hinges on your audience not actually watching the show
Although watching your epileptic spasm of a review can be entertaining solely on offhand chance you give your a stroke
Making up ways to preform your fake outrage
It becomes once again the Burnham show ? It's literally been that for every second, it's been on air. Krenim temporal spiders, is an absolutely shyte concept.