BORDER COLLIE THE WORLD'S SMARTEST DOGS
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The Border Collie is a working and herding dog breed developed in the Anglo-Scottish border region for herding livestock, especially sheep. It was specifically bred for intelligence and obedience.
Robin Penland- Elliot is a world class trainer of Border Collies and the owner of On The Lamb Herding located in Camarillo, Ca. Robins is an excellent trainer of dogs but more impressively and excellent instructor for humans. Robin's relationship with the breed goes back nearly thirty years and her love and passion as spawned an enriching career. Her love and understanding of the Border Collie is second to none.
Considered highly intelligent, extremely energetic, acrobatic and athletic, they frequently compete with great success in sheepdog trials and dog sports. They are often cited as the most intelligent of all domestic dogs.Border Collies continue to be employed in their traditional work of herding livestock throughout the world. They are the premiere herder of any livestock but were developed primarily on sheep.
The Border Collie is also considered by most experts to be the most intelligent dog.
I remember going to a BBQ on a friend's farm a few years ago. I noticed everyone seemed to be crowding in one spot. One of the farm's border collies was in fact herding all the guests together.
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hahahaha!!
I will get pushed around stomped herded and walked over by these dogs anytime and its a pleasure :-D
Because they are herding dogs they have a nack to round up certain things including people and other dogs the herding instinct is very very strong and it's difficult to get them to not do it that's why they are best suited to living on a farm these drop dead gorgeous pups are not suitable for apartments or the busy city they'll get very freaked out by the loud noise of passing cars busses and any kind of traffic also they are very very very energetic and extremely intelligent so new owners beware if you don't want a dog that requires very long walks and the ability to outsmart you and to constantly be on the move then this beautiful dog isn't for you ❤
Yep, they do that. It’s amazing.
The second that dog heard the whistle he immediately went from relaxed to "yes ma'am say no more" the eagerness to work is what really impresses me about these dogs.
Some dogs really do need to work, it's remarkable.
You have to understand its not work to them. Their just doing what their instinct is telling them. If you dont let these dogs be active both physically and mentally they become board when they become board they become frustrated, and when they become frustrated they become destructive, and then you have an unruly and a problematic dog on your hands
Australian cattle dogs, bred from the border collie originally, will work so hard they will literally kill themselves. In extreme heat the cattle man has to take care care that they get enough water and rest in the shade Sort of horrifying and wonderful at the same time.
Sled dogs like huskies will do the same thing. They love and live for pulling sleds and it irritates me when people say it’s cruel for them to run and pull a heavy sled. It’s actually cruel to not let them pull sleds because they enjoy it
Owning em is insane!!! They are addicted to rules as in law and order!!!
They will never ever break a rule they understand!!! If I leave any food on my bed neither of my border collies would touch it. She doesn’t go to the bathroom anywhere near a trail or walkway. They practically potty train themselves!!!
My dog breed for life hands down that’s it!!!
This lady is one of the best people you've interviewed.
Yes ladies, it is me indeed!
On The Lamb Herding Training and Stock Dogs
hello How can I contact you?
"Ambassadors of good will" what a beautiful way to describe the breed
I love how the dog sits quietly listening to his compliments☺
So cute!
And how he looks into her eyes. Adorable!
Quite normal for a happy border collie who is running and working.
Yes right i am genius dog - the collie
Yeah yeah, I like the sound of that. The more, the less. Keep it coming lady, I am all ears. 🐕
Look at this pup, seating beside his mum peacefully and enjoying the warm weather. Love it a lot ❤️
She did really well at explaining everything about the dog and the use.
Pill Box That is so rude to her, and don't make fun of overweight people. My cat had gotten cancer and passed away because of obesity, so I don't really appreciate that.
Pill Box so is your mom but she gave birth to yoy
Hi Pillbox. You are correct. Very overweight. I have lost 45 lbs and now I need to have my gallbladder removed. Yeah healthy life! I'll be shooting more dogumentary's, you can keep up on my progress.
Losing my husband of 34 years was sudden and unexpected. I cannot explain the grief daily.
On The Lamb Herding Training and Stock you don't need to explain anything to that "pill" person. He's/she is extremely rude. Your personal life is none of their business, or any of our business. You did an excellent job explaining the bread of dog. Too bad "pill" didn't understand that the video was about Boarder Collies, and not about judging people. I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your husband. My condolences.
I will forever love this breed. I had an amazing best friend, coworker, service dog and all around partner for 15.6 years in my boy Dash. He passed away on St Patrick's day this year and I am so lost without him. I never thought I'd love "a crazy ass border collie" but Dash was an exemplary diplomat for his breed and all dogs. I miss him horribly. He was a dark red with the most penetrating yellow eyes. Be was born with natural skill. He always had the AUDACITY to be embarassed if I had to show him how to do anything. We used to joke that somehow an Englishman and bordercollie crossed paths and got stuck in the wrong bodies 😂 he was the most SERIOUS pup I have ever met. In his final year and a half, he was a benjiman button in that his dementia made him regress into a naughty puppy which was actually a joy as much as it was frustrating with the new challenge. He was such a dedicated friend and I am lost withouth his yellow gaze meeting mine asking what are we doing now mom with nothing but his sweet unconditional love. Border collies are phenomenal phenomenal dogs❤️❤️❤️❤️
Awesome,, I'm disabled US ARMY VETERAN,, love your story,, Buddy is 2 yes now,, he goes in the VA hospital with me for my health care,,and he is so welcomed by my doctors,, Buddy is my buddy,Buddy,, when I fire up my 4wheeler he's with me, when I'm in my trucks he's with me, when I'm hunting and fishing, he's with me,, God Bless Border collies
That was such a lovely tribute to your dog!
I'm so so so sorry... My Birdy is my best friend, my family.. I've taken her everywhere I've gone for 13 years,& she's starting to have mobility issues& it's killing me. I'm terrified of living one day without her& I know it's going to come.i carry her up the stairs& in& out of the car everyday.. I'm just thankful I can still have it my way for now. I will be lost& empty& there just aren't words for what I'll be without my best friend, my co pilot, my partner in life. Everyone knows& loves her.. every time we get to a barn everyone says hi to her first... I'm just the one that drives her there lol I couldn't pay her to leave my side, she always wants to be with me just as much as I want to be by her side. I couldn't love anything more& I don't know how you're doing it but I ache for you, I know the loss even though I haven't lost her yet, I can feel the emptiness that will consume me& I don't know how to escape it but I'd do anything to never have to live for even a moment without her. I'm just so sorry my friend.. I know on top of it it's lonely to have no one understand the bond, just how deeply you love your Dash, I dare them to say those words "just a dog".. how sad for them they'll never understand your loss, at the same time I almost envy people who don't get it, bc they'll never have the ability to connect this way& have to feel the separation from their other half when it comes. I understand.. I just wish I could do something.. but I'm well aware there is no thing that could be done or said to fill the hole in your heart.. just know I'm thinking of you & my heart's breaking for you.. I can't wait for you to see him again. Until then find comfort that he, on the other hand, is just fine, bc you know he never left your side.. just not in a physical form right now that can ease your pain. The only thing in the world he wants is for you to not be so very sad.. So you try every day to be a little happier.. just for him...bc he's right next to you, watching over you, & for you to be ok is all he's ever wanted from you❤️ you're working on healing is something you can give to him until you get to see him again. Be well stranger
My BC died 11/27/2023… RIP Lacey!!!!
She had life long health problems but lived 12.5 years when she wasn’t gonna last 1.
She made friends with everyone she met. I’m fortunate cuz my sister gifted me another BC puppy when Lacey had 11 months left. I at first resented having a puppy at the same time I was keeping Lacey comfortable as she slowly dies.
Then after Lacey died Margo is all I have to hold onto.
It’s 2 year old post. I hope you have a new BC. There’s plenty of good ones out there!!!
Sending you lots of love. I lost my beloved husky in a car accident a few months ago. My mom says that despite her efforts, nothing ever made me happy until I met my beautiful dog. My soul cracked when I lost her.
This lady is hardcore! She gave a great presentation. She blew me away. I really loved this documentary! Thank you. = )
Manuel Driggs thank you!
It was exceptional, although in the beginning of the video, she kept on and on about Australian Shepherds. Nonetheless the information she was very helpful 😊
Yeah, she seems very intelligent and knowledgeable. Thanks for this! I'm thinking of getting a border collie myself, but the fact that I live in a city and don't own many sheep makes me hesitate. What do you say, youtube?
I've had 3 working collies over 23 years . I've a kelpie/collie cross at present 2 years old and he is the best yet . Calm thinks and listens and a strong eye . Excellent video keep up the good dog work 👏
She shows her bias at times with false information but that's to be expected.
Faithful, intelligent and so loyal. Our Lucy was the best. Literally could learn a new trick in minutes. She had doggy dementia in later life and we had to do the kindest thing and let her go, three weeks ago. The grief is so real. My constant companion for 15 years. Adopted via RSPCA and a joy from day own. ❤
I'm so sorry to hear this. Dogs are one of God's greatest gifts...
You sound like a good owner who took care of her in life.
15 years is impressive, she had a good long life. Sorry for your loss.
Lost my baby after 16 long, amazing years of life!! I don't know if I have ever met a dog smarter than a border collie. Such a great temperament. Perfect dogs.
Lost mine at 9 suddenly I cried during the video thinking about him great wee boy happened suddenly was such a smart boy
Lost mine at 17. She was older than me😭
Just don't leave them near children
Carl Menzel ?
@@tinasteer2507 Since they are herder dogs they will try to herd small children, which includes nipping at their heels. You can train them not to do this.
I usually dont watch videos for a long time, but something about how the lady explains things in logical sequence got me hooked till the end.
It probably because you can tell she is being wholesome, humble and true not just feeding you BS for attention. She is speaking her true story :)
i prefer longer form content, espeicaly when its done so well, i wish more content chose this format and ditched all the quick cuts and silly music
That is an extremely important skill for anyone who wants to explain something well - each topic should progress into the next topic, kind of like how a storyline is much more interesting if each scene leads to some other scene. This is probably why one common tip for explaining things well is to "treat it like a story".
One of the most knowledgeable breeders I've seen on this channel. Couldn't disagree with anything she said about her breed.
It’s great to see dogs that are bred for their purpose and not looks! This is definitely one of the best videos you’ve made!! I have more respect towards the border collies now! Great video again!
Ok but they are also good looking dogs
Try owning one you get a whole new appreciation!!! Be ready for 1.5 miles of running or 4 miles walking them minimum. Ball throwing can mitigate it.
Yes, I agree- these are no doodle breed.
If you dont want to use a breeder, you can always find a Border Collie rescue :) I rescued mine when she was two. She came fully trained. It just took me some time to train myself to catch up to her level. Her temperament was the best. She was the love of my life.
Our family got a young female border collie from a local farm in Scotland. The farmer sold her to us because she didn't have the correct temperament to work with sheep. She was very exciteable, energetic, and couldn't remain still, although she was always a friendly dog. After a couple of years she finally started to calm down, and the change in her temperament allowed her to become very obedient and to learn loads of tricks. From being a difficult dog she became a wonderful, very clever and much loved pet, and lived with us for almost 15 years. I still miss her.
Are border collies good guard dogs by instinct
@@shivpatel991 They'll bark if they hear or see something suspicious outside the house at night.
Mine lived 18 years. Never stopped. She was running when she fell over and died. She was very beautiful. Very smart. I had 2 but one was stolen because they were great cattle dogs. Sadie would sit under a tree while lassie rounded the cattle up. Then Lassie would go sit under the tree as Sadie rushed them into the barn etc. Everyone would come out to watch them. Someone was trying to steal both but Lassie wasn't a people person. Unfortunately Sadie was. Whoever got Sadie was out of luck because she only did what Lassie told her to. Lassie trained her. Broke my heart. I have 2 new now who are very good but I no longer let people come out and see or know it.
@@shivpatel991 mines was, she was definitely extremely alert always.
@@shivpatel991 mine shat herself while barking, your mileage will vary
You can tell that dog loves her so much. It's adorable. I love it.
Best breed presentation I’ve heard so far! This woman is amazing and really knows her stuff. I really like her focus on the working lines and her analysis of what’s wrong with show breeding, as well as outlining what to look for if you want a pet or a working dog. Great work, Robin!
Yeah, her explanation of the different approaches to breeding and the limits of each was so interesting!
She might know about Border Collies BUT... as for "The Worlds Smartest Dog"? She obviously isn't educated on the lesser known but MUCH more admired Welsh Sheepdog!
The Welsh Sheepdog doesn't need direction... like the Border Collie. Just show the Welsh Sheepdog the trailer / pen / gate and then send it off. The Welsh Sheepdog innately gets it and WILL herd expertly without a bunch of whistles, chirps or signals... like Border Collies.
The Welsh Sheepdog is a tad larger, studier dog that'll last longer in the field. It doesn't crouch down every few feet like the Border Collie... the Welsh Sheepdog stays up on it's feet, ready to herd anything commanded to.
The Border Collie has "strong eye" vision that focuses only on the animals being herded... and yes, stares them down. The Welsh Sheepdog is "loose eyed" meaning it has a far SUPERIOR wider field of vision. There's a video (documentary on here called My Sheepdog and Me" TVO Docs) that WILL show how these incredible dogs CAN herd lost wandering sheep in a.... forest! Their wider vision allows them to herd without them hitting every second tree lol... like the Border Collie would!
The Welsh Sheepdog is also superior in mountainous terrains. Part mountain goat?
In closing, I suggest you, anyone reading this post and hopefully, the woman hosting this video that there IS a dog just as, if not more adaptable intellectually, than the well known Border Collie. Behold! THE Welsh Sheepdog! You WILL be amazed. Watch it and see.
Took my Border Collie to a country property once, he had never seen sheep before. He saw a flock in the distance ~100m away , immediately rushed to them and rounded them up, I was amazed.
RIP CB, good dog.
Then he came home and beat you in chess
We had a farm and rescued a border collie/lassie pup and she pretty much taught herself to round the sheep up,, she was never trained but came in handy most times for basic herding. She’s retired now and at 14 is still going strong apart from a little arthritis, smartest dog we’ve had.
Our border has no shepherd training, but will naturally herd our neighbor's 5 yorkies, and keep them right at our neighbor's feet. And when we take the family into the Montana wilderness, our BC keeps a close eye on my young boys, making sure they don't wander too far away from us.
My dad has an acre of property a couple of hours away from where we live. My sister took about 10 bunnies to have there. They got loose and my border collie was able to round them up by herself. And she was 6 months old at the time. Very smart and instinctual pups.
I recently got a border collie. I’ve always heard a dog is only as smart as it’s owner. This dog is much smarter than me. This animal learned quickly how to work me. Once I figured out what she was doing, I was able to break the behaviors. She’s wonderful! I wouldn’t trade her for the world and spend my time trying to find ways to engage her.
I grew up in the Cairngorm mountains in Wales. When we were kids and our Mum and dad wanted us home, our borders would come and (herd) collect us. Often from really far away. Always been my favourite dogs.
I noticed something very interesting at the 14:00 mark. The owner whistles to demonstrate the sound, and the border collie is about to follow her commands when she grabs him gently to let him know this is a demonstration. However, when she continues with different whistles, he remains calm and sits there, only looking to the side to make sure it isn't the real thing. It really shows intelligence of these dogs. He knew after the first time that she was using the whistle for something else (to inform).
ROBIN taught us more about this breed and how they're trained and handled than any one else can. Its a not often a person such as Robin comes along and teaches us the fundamentals in 20 minutes,
Never mind the subject matter (love it, but almost irrelevant), this lady is so calm, considered, balanced, a fabulous speaker / teacher!
Just look at the way her Dog is looking at her. Respect and Love.🐾🇦🇺 These Dogs love their work.
This lady is so impressive with her knowledge, experience, and engaging presentation.
I just want more videos with her.
Dang she is a good teacher. That was delivered in such a logical, natural way.
A stray Border Collie who was mostly white came to us last year with ticks and fleas but she was so sweet and kind we kept her. She is one of the best things to happen to our family and I really understand what that lady is saying about how they're supposed to behave. They are such a kind, loving and family orientated breed.
A border collie once herded my friends away from a farm. True story. No wonder they are the superior shepherd.
Many years ago a friend and I were walking in South Wales, across a field (a right-of-way) and a young collie being trained at the other side of the field ran off from his handful of sheep and trainer and ran round and round us, trying to 'herd' us over to join his flock. The shepherd was not impressed.
Our 6 month old border collie (his parents were herders) herded all the children at a picnic. The children didn’t even notice!
Nobody that has experienced a border collie stare forgets it ! Mad respect for any animal that can use that power
That was awesome to watch, she is very knowledgeable.
Lizard Lizi thank you. Raising sheep and working with herding breeds is truly a passion for me.
Best behaved and most intelligent dog I ever had was my Border Collie and he was my best friend, grown men cried when we buried him. Tom lived to be 15. 💙
YES!
I've been waiting for this for SO long!
Thank you so much for featuring my breed!
You're welcome, be sure to share the video
What? Lol
@meaturama maybe she IS a border collie🤔🤔🤔 Also, why would you think they didnt own a border collie? How are you so "sure"??
Wow Border Collies must be really intelligent given they're typing comments on RUclips. What an interesting representative of *your* breed
"We dont breed them for looks"
Yet you have one of the most majestic looking breads on the planet
I have loved Border Collies for 73 years. Shared a home with 5 Border Collies. They are much smarter than I am.
I'm so pleased that we own two of these precious dogs, 5 and 6 yrs old, female and male. Both working breed.
On The Lamb Herding Training and Stock Dogs Robin this is my first Dogumentary, but a few minutes after starting it I paused, went back to the beginning, and called my three children in to watch it with me. To learn about these beautiful dogs, but mainly to show them an awesome example of a woman to be admired. Intelligent, compassionate, hard-working. Focussed on attributes and not looks and clearly iterating the value in doing so - such an important example to set across the board! Many thanks for such a great interview.
Yep she really knows her breed, she has put her heart and soul into the dogs she has raised / trained. I appreciate her.
We inherited Henry about 12 months ago as a 7 year old. He had been kept in suburbia in a backyard so I took it easy with him and extended his walks. I decided he was ready to go jogging so I took him out. First two times I was worried that his early inactivity was permanent, then his breeding came on strong and now he is doing it easy. Speaking of strong eyed dogs, he lets me know when he is ready to go just by sending me thought messages through his eyes. He is easy to train, perhaps he thinks I am easy to train, but it was a win/win for him and me when I got him. He is a bloody beauty.
I have a lab/collie mix and she is the best thing that's happened to me. Super smart, energetic and loving. Keeps me out of depression for sure.
This lady is great.
Bless you and all the border collies! You have made the best video that covers everything from soup to nuts about this breed and done it in such an interesting and engaging manner. We had a bc cross that finally got her hearts desire at age 10…… her introduction to sheep herding! She went for her test, her aptitude test I guess? , was invited to stay till the tests were over for the day, and began her lessons that day. The trainer
( like every trainer in every discipline we introduced to this dog), was impressed with her from the moment she stepped into the ring. And like the other trainers ( agility, obedience, etc), she saw a dog who accelerated quickly at any task put before her, and a dog who absolutely loved to work.
When we were out and about, people would comment how she never took her eyes off of me( or my daughter, her favorite “ people”). “ She’s waiting for me to tell her to do something.” I’d explain.
She just loved to do anything for her people, her mission in life seems to be making us happy! She has been the brightest, most obedient, most thoughtful and loving dog I have ever known in over 60 years, and I’ve had dogs in my life since I was born.
Her breed makeup was a border collie mom and the sire was border collie X Australian shepherd, so that herding instinct was strong. They were born on a large working cattle ranch. I wish we had been able to find shepherding classes way sooner than we did, as we lost her 6 months ago to cancer, she was only not quite 12, and still acted like a puppy up to the day she collapsed.
I dream of another like her, but have that fear I’d constantly be comparing dogs. My life has certainly been enriched by her, and it’s sure empty around here now!
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Gorgeous, gorgeous dogs
That woman gave an outstanding interview. Skilled, perceptive and talented
Wow! This lady has something more than knowledge. She radiates trust and therefore The dog sitting beside her continuously maintains touch with her . That quality is radiated by very experienced, loving and good teachers. There is something great about this lady.
Have been privileged enough to work around this breed a few times. They are intense, amazing dogs. When you look in their eyes you can really feel how tuned in they are.
Haha she's like "We don't really have that many commands we use with the dogs", & then she lists the 1800 commands the dogs need to know in 12 different languages plus in whistle language, & then in writing just in case she tells them by email. So cute. Smartest dogs on earth, & great companions too.
Yeah, I noticed that too, haha
I think the self reliant aspect of the breed is amazing.
We had a sibling with a farm and a border collie. Though not formally trained, the herding instinct is so strong in that breed that when we would go to visit, we'd get out of the car and all of us, adults and children, would be herded up to the front door, the collie gently nipping at our ankles. It was unexpected and ...hilarious when we realized what was happening.
Wow this lady really knows her stuff. I 100% respect her for the respect & knowledge she has in these beautiful dogs
Thank you!
The world, this earth is soo fascinating ! I urge people not to fight and just appreciate this beauty. Live and let live
I have a border collie, he is protective of us, however its hilarious watching him herd my cats onto the porch and into the house. He loves to play fetch, he will run and run and run and run.
You nailed it on the head about the fact that collies aren't worried about leaving you to go a half mile away to herd, whereas an Aussie would be. I herd with Aussies and while they are great running sheep in and out of pens and some grazing, they can't go fetch stragglers as effectively over long distances.
I didn't think I'd watch the entire video but I did. The way she talks about her job and the dogs is captivating. Thank you for this awesome lesson.
WOW1 i learned so much from this lady! She really does know her stuff and her documentary here is a blessing for the breed. Helping people understand these truths is exactly what is needed.
Wow you guys really lucked out when filming this. All you had to do was point the camera at Robin and let her speak.
I know Robin personally and she is a very capable trainer. I thought she did a very nice job in this video. Very worthwhile for anyone thinking of getting a Border Collie or getting into herding. Well done Robin.
Growing up we rented a house from a sheep farmer. He had a Border collie. Watching her work was something else. There was coyotes in the area. That herd was hers and she proved it.
Border Collies are such a fascinating breed. So smart, so focused, so loyal. The innate instincts are outstanding. It’s amazing seeing them in action, doing what they’re bred for. Easy to see how they love what they do best, the drive, the speed, the agility. Amazing.
Dogumentary TV is one of the greatest ideas ever!!
Excellent! Information and advice! Thank you! I recently adopted a 2 year old Border Collie and you just gave me the best information and advice ever! I have owned dogs all my life. I run/walk my dogs at least twice a day. I take a good amount of time to get them under voice control and train them for their own safety! This little girl is such a joy! Smart as a whip! She pees when I say go pee! Thank you so much for your wisdom and insight into this amazing breed! Her Name is Nellie and I adopted her from a shelter. Hard to imagine why anyone would have let her go!
Great video, amazing interview. Very well spoken, knowledgable, unbiased.
Vestid while I quite agree with most of your comment, I'm not sure about the "unbiased", she seems quite likely to favorably compare BC's to other breeds, but given her years of experience and passionate appreciation for the breed, I totally understand why and I don't hold it against her whatsoever!
Patricia Orsborn I truly love all the herding breeds. This dogumentary was about Border Collies. However, after 3 decades working with dozens of breeds. Yes, I am biased to prefer Border Collies for distance work. I have an Australian Cattle Dog to help move lambs to & from pastures. She's very good at teaching lambs to move.
My Parents and I had a Border Collie. Such a beautiful pet he was. He loved playing football. He is in heaven
Love the way you vocalize the interactions between dog,sheep and human. You are an excellent teacher imo. Be well.
Interesting that the dog resting beside her hears her say all kinds of commands but he knows he isn't working right now...so he just sits there. Love this video. Smart lady!
"Independant thinking problems solving partener" what every employer looks for.
i think its great that theyre bred for intelligence and not looks but.. quite honestly i actually love their appearances. such beautiful and talented animals.
As a Border Collie owner and sheep herding competitor, thank you for an excellent explanation of the working breed. They truly are amazing dogs when it comes to thinking and solving problems. Most of the BC's I meet at trial competitions are as you described, sociable, friendly and live to work and please the owner. Don't know what I'd do without mine...well, yeah, I do, I'd be chasing my sheep all over in frustration but instead, I just say "bring them, Mindy" or "put um up" and she does all the work in 2 min. with a smile on her face. ha
I’m quickly typing this out whilst my owner is out. If he finds out I can type he’ll want me doing it all the time, just like herding sheep. My friend Shaun the sheep has got some mad skills too. He,s currently in the kitchen making Shepard’s pie.
Hugh, You got to be a fun guy to hang around....
I wish this were a television programme!
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Is the Shepherd in the pie???
Thank you for choosing someone who support the working border collie and not the show version. HUGE HUGE HUGE difference.
I would be wary of anyone though, who says the working dogs are with as few health issues as this lady says. Working BCs do in fact, have a noticeable level of HD, and epilepsy, eye issues, etc.
There is a lot of popular sire syndrome in working BCs. Look to the story of Wiston Cap. Not to mention Old Hemp the progenitor; the dog that the working "type" was built upon.
Where do you think that all the NEW DESIGNER breeds come from? ONE set of parents with offspring usually bred back to father and daughter, son and mother, brother and sister...
Actually there is no test for epilepsy in the border collie, to test the genetic issue at present. But also the fact that most working dogs do not have the issue with these is testament it self. For the idea that they are all line bred.. .which you are inferring... that is not true... We do the utmost to ensure that Border Collies are diverse in bloodlines... using out crossing and working closely with the pedigrees to ensure that there are very few dogs that have the same genetic match... you will find that despite the idea that people would love to have their dog bred to a winning dog... it is rarely the same bitch bred to the popular dogs more than once... so even there, the mixing up of the lines is made even more diverse... if you breed the same bitch & dog for life {we have done this with one pair once we found the right match} then you will have one one set of a basic genetic pattern. But if you take the same dog and breed him to 20 different bitches... you will end up with 20 different distinct genetic patterns... and even if the offspring come into contact again... there is still some difference to the pattern to provide the necessary separation. It is no difference than people of a specific isolated area... pretty soon you are going to run into people who are related to you some how...
You are more likely to find things like an epileptic type response in agility dogs, as explained to me by the nice people at the DNA testing site... having the dog confined waiting all day for its' turn causes a stress hormone to be released which has a similar response when built up in the dog, to appear to be a seizure.. It is not true that herding dogs are more prone to disease, as due to economics, as a livestock handler (farmer/rancher) simply would not keep that line around... and only sound dogs would be going into the gene pool.... do you notice that before we had so many "pets" and with the increase of designer pets... the increase in disease has multiplied.... this has to do with issue that previously would not have been allowed... such as blind, deaf, badly colored (correlated with the previous two ailments) and would have summarily been dealt with before they left the litter... now... regardless of the issue every animal has to be championed... and then stupidly people use these "bad pennies" to breed with ... increasing the incidence of recurrence of issues... It is the inability to do the right thing and cull inferior pups... it is hard but also the right thing to remove them from the gene pool.
I never said there was a test for epilepsy. I never spoke to designer pets, which actually are crosses often, so if you want to talk about outcrossing, there's that.
And using "different lines" involves an entirely different and deeper level of conversation. Depending on the testing you use, the COI, SNPs, STPs, found, it's possible to have dogs with more relatedness from different parts of the world, then in two dogs geographically closer.
That's because as long as you deal with a pure breed where all members have the same descendants, there will always be a shared gene pool. People in "Isolated areas" have established themselves through migration from many thousands of years ago, plus there have been later migrations, etc. If you look at DNA testing you will find the explanations of those migrations. However, humans are interbreeding more than ever. And we STILL have plenty of genetically predisposed disease because we don't tend to approve of "culling."
Dogs in Westernized breeding are bred with a lot of human goals, human decisions for culling are based on those goals. There is every kind of breeder. Those who want to win trials, those who need a long lasting dog, those who breed so hard for ability first that health, while considered, is a "close" second which is really not that close. I have spoken to a lot of ranchers who do not do a good job of outcrossing and if you say "boo" about it, you get screamed at as a know-nothing.
I gave very few words on the video. I only said I would be wary of the suggestion that BCs has as FEW issues as suggested simply from being "working" dogs. It's much more complex than that, as you pretty much showed. I never said herding dogs are MORE prone to disease. You took this completely in the other direction from a knee-jerk defensive reaction. I really wish people would be more rational and less purely emotional when it came to these dog discussions.
This was a suggestion for the general public. Not an attack.
I wouldn't blame designer pets for blindness, deafness. A dog being blind or deaf depends upon its own lines, not the lines of the designer dogs that aren't even related. There are a lot of dogs with merle in them being bred as merle x merle, such as Aussies, Danes, Collies etc, by the wrong people, behind many of these dogs. That has nothing to do with yorkipoos, doodles etc.
The pudelpointer was bred in the 1800s in Germany by crossing poodles with German pointers. Poodle crossing is nothing new.
We got a border collie and raised him as soon as he was old enough to leave mama and he is an absolute blessing and an instant member of the family
Love the diversity! I know you guys focus on bully breeds - but herding breeds can be so amazing!
Mayson fuckin herding is the Shit!!!
Mayson i'm waiting for the Australian cattle dog.
I’ve just never seen a happier dog than a working border collie!!! I wish I had a farm for my BC!!!
Great commentary on Border Collies! Over the years I have had two, both extraordinary dogs! The first one was years ago when I operated a cattle ranch in WY! Her name was Buttons! Although I am no dog trainer, she became a top cattle dog. She figured out on her own what needed to be done. On one occasion she, I and my good cow horse corralled 280 of cattle all on our own, no fuss, no muss! I have often thought I would rather work cattle with that combination than with a half dozen cowboys trying to out cowboy each other.
Thanks for an amazing interview!
Sometimes I’m backpacking with my Border Collie and she’s the best companion i’ve ever had in my life.
Thank you man. I know you specialise on bully, mastiff, and big dogs generally. Thank you for focusing on the outliers.
What a fantastic documentary on the Border Collie. I’ve been a border collie owner since my first BC back in 1999. BEST BREED of dog!!!
Loving the variety on your videos, they give really great insight to each dog breed and it lets you know the breed better than just the "Dogs 101" videos.
Dogs 101 just describes every breed basically the same: "perfect dogs, super friendly, most intelligent, would never hurt a fly, most loyal, best breed ever!"
Yes, in that video it said border collies were not good for first time owners, but in fact, they are exceptional for first time owners who are very active and run around often. They are so intelligent and really keep you on your toes, while still being that dog that most people will love and is great at agility and things like that when trained properly!
This is the best interview on this Channel. Pure knowledge. I learned so much about the Breed. I don't even want a Border Collie, but to hear someone who not just loves the Breed but also KNOWS the Breed is great. I feel like some people you Interview love their Dogs, but they don't really know the Breed.
In Sweden we have this thing, I don't know if there are other places that have it the same way but here both the parents of your border collie must pass atleat one herding trial for your pup to be purebred. So every breeder also needs to show that their dogs can herd, or else they can't call their puppies purebred and they have to be sold as a crossbreed even if they only have border collie in their lines
I'm sorry if my English is bad but it's my third language
Your English is very good don't worry :)
Odyseyyy It wasn't very good, but it was good.
It was quite a bit better than many American's!
whats your second language??
Noone
Wow, she is incredible. Her passion and mastery of her craft shows in this video. I learned a lot. Thank you!
This lady is a boss. This dogumentary has to be the best one.
My border collie mainly taught himself....! Also could almost read my mind and eye communication was our 'language.' The best of companions and they do need mental stimulation more than other dogs
Thank you for showing the world how amazing Border Collies are. Mine was my heart dog and best friend. It's truly hard to understand their intelligence until you get to work with them. My girl Belle had the kindest, deepest eyes that seemed to understand everything. Something I've never seen in any other breed of dog.
I can’t remember the last time I sat for this long watching a video with zero interruptions! Lol
You are a great presenter Robin!!
The collie stare is so intense and if they’re angry it’s even worse 😂 just a collies stare would honestly be enough to protect a home imo. though my collie is the smallest dog in the family she’s definitely the highest in their pack
Great too see Border Collies doing what they are meant to do! And this lady is made a great job explaining everything about the breed. Amazing video!
Hate Breeders that breed show dogs, Their selfishness has ruined many breeds.Thanks for caring about the dogs.
I always took mine to work with me, building houses, One day I was working on the roof which was rare for me, but I am working along and I feel a but on my neck. Go to brush the bug away and it was Sadie. She came up the ladder to see what I was doing. She hugged me real tight and it was actually easy to get her back down. I miss mine, wish I could still keep up with one.
Brian Knickerbocker this is true in some cases but not all in my own experience the show people have improved collies they have better health and better temperaments and if trained can very much still work
I hate the breeders too. The dogs are dish faced with mountains of fluff. Ugghhh. We take our border collie to work too. She’s climbed up low branches of a tree and attempted the ladder but she’s yet to join my hubby in the canopy! Do you have a dog? There are some lovely lap dogs out there if you are looking for a dog that needs less exercise 😊
Border Collies are like having children, they are so smart. I've had a couple over the years and they are wonderful family dogs.
I have a border collie pitbull mix and she's hella smart but i swear her energy never runs out
Layla S I have a border collie pointer mix. He's 4 and still acts likes a puppy lol but he's one of the best dogs I've ever had and he's my best friend!
Start training, it'll tire her out way quicker than any physical exercise
If it was bred with a real American pit bull terrier, I would like to see this dog.
I believe it both tho breeds are known to be energetic
Training and puzzles with help to tire them out. Smart dogs love stuff problem solving stuff and it'll help to tire them out way better than physical exercise
So articulate. K ows what she's talking about. The natural intelligence of this dog made me cry 😳😍
This lady is the Master Whisperer she's incredibly knowledgeable! 🙏
My baby is a smooth coat and she would heard anyone anywhere. She made so many friends people and dogs included. She has such a passion for work and people. The zeal was in her eyes. What a dog!!!
I really like the diversity on this channel!
Border collie The Einstein of the dog world. Standard poodles number 2.
This was amazing she did a great job explaining her dogs😁
Luis Sanchez thank you
On The Lamb Herding Training and Stock Dogs this is one of the best breed videos I’ve watched. Your experience is obvious from one interview. Well done with your breed and I hope you continue to have success!
I know a good trainer when I see One! Dog is nothing without a good trainer! This lady is Legit!
Every mountain sheep farmer in Ireland has a few Collies. Personally they're my favourite dog breed. They're very popular here in Ireland mostly for sheep but also as a pet dog.
After watching this all I want to do is personally meet this lady and spend time working with and for her. Best dog person ever!!!
This is very close to where I lived in California, it is indeed extremely lovely there. Absolutely the perfect location imo. Now I'm sad I didn't get to see this ranch and these dogs, so cute! I love herding breeds!
I have a Border Collie. She’s fantastic, we are over the field every day, she was from working parents herself so the energy she has is never ending and I love it! We have cows where I am and she loves going to visit them also :)