Beautiful pioneer movie. It has it all we could expect from a good picture from 1912: already well crafted suspense (the scene with the revolver), tenderness, a nice use of outdoors scenary and tears thanks to the moving and sincere work of Pickford and... Mabel Normand! (como bien ha detectado Antonio Gabriel De Gásperi). I am sorry for the job done by the musicians who have had the comission of making "modernized" music but I agree with the comenters who say that the whole "modernizing silents" idea is wrong. Silents aren't old, they are timeless. Of course there are times that a modern score (even electronic if you want: there are some sensible electronic musicians who love and understand silents of any era) can fit, specially in experimental works. I'm not saying the music here is bad or anything, just... well I always turn out the music in cases like this one, sorry.
I think that the music is very good and fits the images nicely. Some of the older silent films didn't have specific scores and so can be open to different interpretations particularly if the composer has put in a lot of hard work and is very sincere. These music scores should not be seen as definitive. The art in these silent films is in their photography, the acting and the composition of the images. I think we should welcome the oportunity to be able to see these films in all their glory from more than 100 years ago! This film in particular is such a classic!
great movie superb quality. and always a treat to see Mabel Normand, she was a great actress in her own right and highly underrated in her time. cheers 🥂
Otra perla. Me sorprendió mucho la coreografía y la ambientación por lo bien trabajadas. Lindo relato, bien contado. Por cierto ¿la novia despechada es Mabel Normand? Gracias!
¡Sí, señor! La misma Mabel Normand, en carne y hueso (bueno, carne y hueso de nitrato auténtico :) Yo también me he llevado una muy agradable sorpresa y me he emocionado al ver la escena final, en la cual Mary trata a Mabel con tanta ternura.
@@cinemasilenci6480 Me hizo dudar IMDB donde asegura que Mabel tuvo un rol sin acreditar; cuando es claro que su papel es el de la novia del joven Charles West.
To be fair, silent film accompaniment has never been an exact science, even in the teens and twenties. It's always been up to the whims of the presenter to decide what music will suit the film best -- and thus, I don't think the MPF is making a misstep by trying something new! I was skeptical of this score at first, but I ended up finding that it underscored the action and emotion of the film extremely well. The film remains untouched, and this creative score may be exactly what helps some viewers immerse themselves in it!
@lukebailey1659 I agree with your comment. As I understand it, not all silent films had an "official" music score that came with them. Theaters that showed the pictures were left to their own devices to hire musicians to play music as the film was shown... as such, the musicians improvised a score to try to fit the movie. I don't know if that was the case with this particular film, but it very well could be, in which case the score that we get in this MPF copy is perfectly acceptable: it maintains that tradition of musical improvisation, as it were. *I freely admit that often times I don't care for silent film score music, and will simply hit the 'mute' button and watch the film in silence - or, sometimes I will play classical music of my own choosing in the background.
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Thank you so much for uploading this . What a treasure! Mary’s presence and life force are eternal !!
Beautiful pioneer movie. It has it all we could expect from a good picture from 1912: already well crafted suspense (the scene with the revolver), tenderness, a nice use of outdoors scenary and tears thanks to the moving and sincere work of Pickford and... Mabel Normand! (como bien ha detectado Antonio Gabriel De Gásperi).
I am sorry for the job done by the musicians who have had the comission of making "modernized" music but I agree with the comenters who say that the whole "modernizing silents" idea is wrong. Silents aren't old, they are timeless. Of course there are times that a modern score (even electronic if you want: there are some sensible electronic musicians who love and understand silents of any era) can fit, specially in experimental works. I'm not saying the music here is bad or anything, just... well I always turn out the music in cases like this one, sorry.
I think that the music is very good and fits the images nicely. Some of the older silent films didn't have specific scores and so can be open to different interpretations particularly if the composer has put in a lot of hard work and is very sincere. These music scores should not be seen as definitive. The art in these silent films is in their photography, the acting and the composition of the images. I think we should welcome the oportunity to be able to see these films in all their glory from more than 100 years ago!
This film in particular is such a classic!
great movie superb quality. and always a treat to see Mabel Normand, she was a great actress in her own right and highly underrated in her time. cheers 🥂
Thank you so much for uploading this!!! I adored it!
Otra perla. Me sorprendió mucho la coreografía y la ambientación por lo bien trabajadas. Lindo relato, bien contado. Por cierto ¿la novia despechada es Mabel Normand? Gracias!
¡Sí, señor! La misma Mabel Normand, en carne y hueso (bueno, carne y hueso de nitrato auténtico :) Yo también me he llevado una muy agradable sorpresa y me he emocionado al ver la escena final, en la cual Mary trata a Mabel con tanta ternura.
@@cinemasilenci6480 Me hizo dudar IMDB donde asegura que Mabel tuvo un rol sin acreditar; cuando es claro que su papel es el de la novia del joven Charles West.
Titanic 🚢 (1912)
Very nice opening, and I love the music!
Is there way to see it without the watermark?
The silents don't need 'modernizing' they need to be treated and respected as art. What you're doing is sonic vandalism.
I completely agree.
To be fair, silent film accompaniment has never been an exact science, even in the teens and twenties. It's always been up to the whims of the presenter to decide what music will suit the film best -- and thus, I don't think the MPF is making a misstep by trying something new! I was skeptical of this score at first, but I ended up finding that it underscored the action and emotion of the film extremely well. The film remains untouched, and this creative score may be exactly what helps some viewers immerse themselves in it!
@lukebailey1659 I agree with your comment. As I understand it, not all silent films had an "official" music score that came with them. Theaters that showed the pictures were left to their own devices to hire musicians to play music as the film was shown... as such, the musicians improvised a score to try to fit the movie. I don't know if that was the case with this particular film, but it very well could be, in which case the score that we get in this MPF copy is perfectly acceptable: it maintains that tradition of musical improvisation, as it were. *I freely admit that often times I don't care for silent film score music, and will simply hit the 'mute' button and watch the film in silence - or, sometimes I will play classical music of my own choosing in the background.
Silent film is being ceded over to nitwits and dipshits.
exactly@@lukebailey1659