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  • Опубликовано: 3 янв 2025

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  • @jcp012000
    @jcp012000 5 лет назад +40

    Friday and a video from Retail Archeology. Life is good!!!

  • @andysorensen1737
    @andysorensen1737 5 лет назад +33

    I’m legitimately impressed with how relatively clean this dead mall is compared to (cough) Moonbeam. Excuse me, let me grab some Halls.

  • @paiganbrady6200
    @paiganbrady6200 5 лет назад +6

    This is interesting.
    I live in Australia and seeing dead malls ( we call them shopping centres, mall is a word rarely used in Australia)
    We have supermarkets in shopping centres and that is what keeps most of our "malls" going.
    A fresh food area inside or outdoor like this one, people keep coming to buy what they need.
    I work in a bakery that bakes bread from scratch every. Single.day.
    What is left, we give to farmers to feed their livestock.
    So nothing goes to waste.
    I will never understand America's malls honestly but is fascinating to see that a lot of you do not have an actual big supermarket chain inside your malls like we do.
    It keeps them going. And it is a sad reality

    • @AllahElShaitan
      @AllahElShaitan 5 лет назад +1

      Larger malls in the US have, in the past, tried supermarkets but they failed. Rent is too high and food has a low profit margin, so not financially feasible. Stores also need dedicated loading areas for stock and malls usually only have one for all their shops. Add on to the fact that back in the day, people went out to shop these malls for "exciting" personal or household goods. Supermarkets didn't scratch that itch. No one would go to the mall for your common household chore of buying bread and milk, especially in the Malls heydays when you would have to hunt and fight for parking. Supermarkets do quite well in strip malls, there many of them, and they do provide as an anchor there for other nearby businesses. A supermarket wouldn't work well in the location in this video as it's geared for luxury business.

  • @danielnieto2566
    @danielnieto2566 5 лет назад +22

    Retail archaeology and Dan Bell both posting today? My day just got better

  • @chuffnuggetz4710
    @chuffnuggetz4710 2 года назад +2

    Nice vids man. Thanks for keeping it going

  • @Shannon_Vlogs
    @Shannon_Vlogs 5 лет назад +62

    I am grateful to you because In the future, I’ll be able to show my children your channel and be like: This is what we did before drones

    • @SearsCool
      @SearsCool 5 лет назад +3

      Yeah, that's a pretty good idea

    • @Shannon_Vlogs
      @Shannon_Vlogs 5 лет назад +2

      DogManKidYT Thanks!

    • @SearsCool
      @SearsCool 5 лет назад +2

      @@Shannon_Vlogs no problem!

  • @X-OR_
    @X-OR_ 5 лет назад +56

    Would make a nice business Park (Real state Offices, Tax Services , contract services ) I would like to work in a little place like this

    • @SolaireHighwind
      @SolaireHighwind 5 лет назад +5

      Yeah, it seems like that's a good route for struggling malls. And it'd be a shame for such a nice mall to get torn down, it looks like somewhere I'd actually enjoy going.

    • @amanacatandhisdog8836
      @amanacatandhisdog8836 5 лет назад

      Joy of Lego good place for a dentist dr etc as well.

    • @paiganbrady6200
      @paiganbrady6200 5 лет назад +2

      Here in Australia we are starting to look at that idea when it comes to struggling little shopping centres.
      But we have big supermarket chains, if not just one of them, 2or3of them on each end and one in the middle of it all.... Coles, Woolworth's and aldi.
      That is what keeps.our shopping centres going actually.
      Target are going out of business here, Kmart is thriving.
      Interesting.

    • @SnowmanTF2
      @SnowmanTF2 5 лет назад

      While that may work for a massive mall in ok condition that sold for a few million and seems to have for one in my area, the sale price of this place probably makes it so that only active retail/restaurants could ever make the current owner the kind of rent per square footage to be worth their investment.

  • @dreamscape405
    @dreamscape405 5 лет назад +3

    Hi! I went to El Pedregal last weekend because of your video about it and now I may have to visit this one too. While it makes me sad that physical retail stores are dying off, there's also a possibility of something new to be reborn. I'm one of those weirdos who likes to visit an actual store and do very little online shopping now, for various reasons; mostly because when I want or need a product, I want it today, not days or weeks from now, and I can't be the only one who's thinking this. Also, there's that nostalgia attached from happier times; it was an event...meeting friends for lunch and looking at all the beautiful things to buy. Bring real shopping life back!

  • @mstiefan6996
    @mstiefan6996 5 лет назад +43

    It's funny...there was a point not too long ago where I heard how it was unprofitable to build indoor malls anymore and that people wanted outdoor strip malls like this one you're at, and yet...they seem to be dying just as fast as the good ol' indoor malls.

    • @SearsCool
      @SearsCool 5 лет назад +2

      Yeah lol

    • @DavidLLambertmobile
      @DavidLLambertmobile 5 лет назад +3

      As noted, the "high end" retail spots can draw in wealthy customers or those seeking privacy, relaxed atmosphere type locations. St John's County in FL has a few places like this. So does Orlando.

    • @SRQmoviemaker
      @SRQmoviemaker 5 лет назад +2

      I don't get that "trend" but living in FL [or any hot state] and shopping outside sucks!

    • @SearsCool
      @SearsCool 5 лет назад

      @@SRQmoviemaker Here in Texas, I have this shopping center that used to have an A/C back when it was built in the 50s, but the mall was built and took the shopping center open. They tried to revive the shopping center in 2005, but plans fell. Today it's worse

    • @robertm3951
      @robertm3951 5 лет назад +2

      The only advantage to outdoor malls is that they do not need anchor stores.

  • @chronos4573
    @chronos4573 5 лет назад +2

    Back in 2009 at this location there was a really good Mexican restaurant in the area near the umbrellas. Many of the staff relocated from California to work there. This whole place had lots of foot traffic and full of life. I went back there again 2 years later with a group of family and friends for dinner that flew into town. We walked all over the place and I couldn't find it. I asked one of the other restaurants what happened and they said the placed had closed. Other patrons nearby didn't even remember it was there. Despite its excellent location, this mall has been on a gradual decline for a long time now.

  • @JadeEyes1
    @JadeEyes1 5 лет назад +22

    What a shame. It looks like it was a nice place.

  • @McOuroborosBurger
    @McOuroborosBurger 5 лет назад +4

    The place doesn’t look pretentious, but the shops themselves are on another level. It’s like Scottsdale Fashion Square Mall compacted into a shop unit.

  • @Yetiforce
    @Yetiforce 5 лет назад +7

    This place is right across the street from The Scottsdale Plaza Resort, which gets absolutely slammed with wealthy Snowbirds during the cooler months. I think it is tough competing with the Kierland Commons (6 miles north) and Fashion Square (3 miles south). Railroad park is wonderful and all, but there are not any kid friendly stores are anything in Seville. It’s a tough balance for that location, probably why food and small business fronts are the only places left.

    • @SnowmanTF2
      @SnowmanTF2 5 лет назад +1

      It seems bizarre how many malls have been developed in the Phoenix area, granted it is not that uncommon to have more than could survive, but most places it seems like at least less than twice what seems plausible to thrive, where in Phoenix seems more like three times or more what is plausible.

  • @Orange_Laowai
    @Orange_Laowai 5 лет назад +23

    I think it boils down to brand recognition for surviving luxury shopping malls. This mall seems to not have any brand names, now this mall just could have easily survived if it had a mixture of independent luxury stores and brand luxury stores.

    • @SearsCool
      @SearsCool 5 лет назад

      My mall is becoming a mall with less brand stores

    • @DavidLLambertmobile
      @DavidLLambertmobile 5 лет назад +2

      That's partly true. As noted in the video. A high end condo or upscale neighborhood 🏘 can sustain a mall or shopping center with $$$ expensive shops or dining choices. Orlando Florida has winter park, Doctor Philips, Windermere, Lake Mary. 💲.

    • @PinkAgaricus
      @PinkAgaricus 5 лет назад

      @@DavidLLambertmobile That didn't seem to be the case with this particular plaza/open air mall. It's hit or miss.

  • @jdbronco
    @jdbronco 5 лет назад +9

    Love taking my kids to the railway park across the street!

    • @RetailArchaeology
      @RetailArchaeology  5 лет назад +2

      I love that park. We used to go there when I was a kid and my daughter loves it now.

  • @Yzabell0M
    @Yzabell0M 5 лет назад +2

    It could be cool to convert it to housing units. Like a mini village, with the dry-cleaning place, a few cafés / restaurants and the rest as apartments. And also convert a big part of the parking lot into a green area.

  • @DokisKalin1
    @DokisKalin1 5 лет назад +1

    Very nice layout in this plaza and very strategic use of awnings and plants to make it walk-able.

  • @nyotauhura7412
    @nyotauhura7412 5 лет назад +2

    a place that fancy probably has grotesquely high rent.
    google maps says this mall is the home of Orangetheory Fitness, 21 cakes, terroir wine pub, starbucks, massage envy, cyclebar, rumors salon, beal bank, betteridge jewelers, home-ology, Jamba juice, Azadi fine rugs, sole sports running zone, walker creek detox, sterling property management..
    i'm also kind of surprised they don't have misters to cool things off...but maybe they had to shut them off since they only have the 3 tenants left.

    • @rxonmymind8362
      @rxonmymind8362 5 лет назад

      Not just high rent but they also want a piece of your profits at some leases.
      So it looks like management screwed themselves by applying pressure for overly high rent. When Starbucks a bank and goes you know it's too high. Companies left in droves. Screw the new owners they wanted greed and got nothing but an empty mall.

  • @robertjohnson275
    @robertjohnson275 5 лет назад +6

    Congratulations on reaching 70,000 subscribers 😎 👍

  • @davider3568
    @davider3568 5 лет назад +2

    What a great way to start the day with another R A entry. Thanks Eric.

  • @user-op8pf3uf8s
    @user-op8pf3uf8s 5 лет назад +1

    Love how the canopys was built around the tree and it wasn't cut down.

  • @Jumboo364
    @Jumboo364 5 лет назад +3

    I like the fountain cam!

  • @watershed44
    @watershed44 5 лет назад +2

    Top floor with stairs was a restaurant at one time long ago probably back in the mid-late 90s.

  • @jacobstratton1140
    @jacobstratton1140 5 лет назад +2

    Have a good weekend everyone!

  • @mikecowen6507
    @mikecowen6507 5 лет назад +5

    My old neighborhood!
    It makes you wonder if that price tag includes the partly built (abandoned) condos this mall entirely wraps around? It might make more sense if they plan to resurrect that development. There is plenty of other thriving retail within 1.5 miles of this locale.

  • @airaero5473
    @airaero5473 5 лет назад +2

    When I look at this place on Google Maps/Earth, the parking lot looks pretty full. How interesting....

    • @PinkAgaricus
      @PinkAgaricus 5 лет назад +2

      Must be a very old map...like one from when the mall was almost fully/fully occupied with stores and food places.

  • @marjoriemorris5849
    @marjoriemorris5849 5 лет назад +1

    This is a beautiful mall. I can’t imagine why it wouldn’t be full of businesses and customers! I think the big store that was gutted might have been something like a Saks Off 5th. And I would love to dine at a restaurant that has a fireplace, even if it’s summertime in Arizona. (I’m in North Dakota where it’s like 18°. Warm sounds so good right now!!! 😎)

  • @Murasakiii
    @Murasakiii 4 года назад

    This looks like a lovely place and I'm in awe at the Arizona background that could be seen from the steakhouse place. I definitely need to pay a visit!

  • @thevacdude
    @thevacdude 4 года назад

    Thanks for the tour 🌵🤠

  • @pmn2821
    @pmn2821 5 лет назад +1

    So sad. I've shopped there in the past, they had very nice unique shops. Going in across the street is Ritz Carlton residences

  • @martinbaxter2616
    @martinbaxter2616 3 года назад

    I admire your courage in putting your camera/hands into fountains. (I have trouble LOOKING at most of those.)

  • @irtbmtind89
    @irtbmtind89 5 лет назад +5

    It's not surprising this place is owned by an REIT. A lot are essentially slumlords.

  • @anthony337chism6
    @anthony337chism6 5 лет назад

    Crazy potential!

  • @seewaage
    @seewaage 5 лет назад

    The Ritz-Carlton Residences are going up across the street. Maybe the buyer of that mall realized that they were going to have the best new development in Scottsdale coming soon. Not sure if they would have known about the development in 2016 but maybe they took a gamble.

  • @petermgruhn
    @petermgruhn 3 года назад

    It had the "stores you can't see from the street problem." I used to go there like every day... but couldn't tell you what 2/3 of the stores were.

  • @bentstrider
    @bentstrider 5 лет назад +1

    3:37 "Star Wars/Seaquest Mashup". Captain Nathan Bridgewalker avenges the Sarlacc Sharks death by defying his dad, the malevolent, Imperial Earth Ocean Fleet president, Darth Darwin!!

  • @SatansYardsale
    @SatansYardsale 5 лет назад

    My family and I used to eat at that steak house and below it was a kids clothing store called The Children's Place. At least that's what was there originally. Cool vid.

  • @kb1kos
    @kb1kos 5 лет назад

    I agree about Ruth's Chris Steak House. Of you can get somebody else to buy you a meal there, GO FOR IT. Well worth waiting for a chance to get a free meal. Their steak is wonderful. If I had money, I'd eat there often.

  • @chrislongbeard
    @chrislongbeard 5 лет назад +15

    Ruth Chris is overrated. It's been a few years but enough I would not return. But not my choice of where to eat it was an exes birthday.

    • @winterburden
      @winterburden 5 лет назад +2

      Exes have the worst taste. My litmus test for dating is they have to like Taqueria El Rey, and Capers Steak By The Ounce.

  • @rmknicks
    @rmknicks 5 лет назад +5

    This was by no means luxury unless you consider Sephora and Ruth's Criss luxury.

  • @formula1enthusiast799
    @formula1enthusiast799 5 лет назад +1

    I remember reading about a mall in Missouri who’s last Store was LensCrafters very strange

  • @joshlewis4574
    @joshlewis4574 5 лет назад

    Very nice, and sad

  • @jonathanMallard
    @jonathanMallard 5 лет назад +2

    perhaps over saturation in scottsdale of these premium retail spaces?

  • @macbuff81
    @macbuff81 4 года назад

    Looks pretty and not boring and depressing as most other malls

  • @dougmartin7129
    @dougmartin7129 5 лет назад +25

    They paid a lot of money for this mall. Money laundering anyone?

  • @jasonmacaro4052
    @jasonmacaro4052 5 лет назад

    I do deliveries there once in a while to Ruth Chris and a bird seed store (sure they sell other stuff, I only deliver the seed). It seems pretty busy whenever I go there, maybe it's busier during the week

  • @infiltrator7777
    @infiltrator7777 5 лет назад +1

    This is actually a heavy traffic area and across the street from the train park. Ruth’s Chris is also there. Looks like poor management for who to attract visitors.

  • @johnqlunchbucket
    @johnqlunchbucket 4 года назад +1

    These are my favorite type of malls to take my girlfriend shopping! 🤭

  • @DavidLLambertmobile
    @DavidLLambertmobile 5 лет назад

    I agree. That retail space was extremely clean, no street bums, trash, leaks. ✔. $34mil is extremely high... 😮. Orlando FL has a few strip malls & enclaves like this AZ location. Stores & cafes tucked into high end 2 level places but either closed or few patrons.

  • @SearsCool
    @SearsCool 5 лет назад +9

    My mall isn't really luxurious or anything. Anyways I went to my cousin's mall and its 1 floor but with many stores, most stores are just outlet stores but its a great mall. Only one store was closed

  • @WhittyPics
    @WhittyPics 5 лет назад

    Nice video Erik

  • @christopherknowsbest9666
    @christopherknowsbest9666 5 лет назад +1

    I'd buy this mall and advertise it a ton more

  • @petermgruhn
    @petermgruhn 3 года назад

    "I hope you've enjoyed."
    Nope. You didn't show my old Starbucks. Hmph.

  • @Vanessa-sp8ri
    @Vanessa-sp8ri 5 лет назад +1

    Hey if your ever in NYC, come to Cross county shopping center.. it's a outdoor mall🙋‍♀️.. pretty busy tho.. my store Sears is set to close in August because of the lease, we were not supposed to close..🤨😣

    • @SearsCool
      @SearsCool 5 лет назад +1

      No not sears 😭
      Well since my Sears also closed, I'll tell you what happened
      1. The lines become longer
      2. Shelves will be empty
      3. Things will be taken off
      4. Store closing signs everywhere
      5. Less people come after most things are gone
      May be different when your Sears close

    • @everforward8651
      @everforward8651 5 лет назад

      Vanessa, they also recently closed the Sears in the Jefferson Valley Mall in northern Westchester.

  • @TechnoboxOG
    @TechnoboxOG 5 лет назад +2

    Please visit the boulevard Mall in Erie county, New York

  • @petermgruhn
    @petermgruhn 3 года назад

    Weird. It looks pretty well filled on Streetview, dated 2/2020.
    10:18 empty eating establishment... "Pubblico Italian Eatery - Now Open."

  • @1212Artemis
    @1212Artemis 5 лет назад

    This mall looks so cute! What a shame.

  • @ScottyPhoton
    @ScottyPhoton 5 лет назад +2

    Wow, that place is super odd. Looked at their site. They paint a better picture of the place, but don't give prices in their leasing brochure. The company is based in Texas so maybe they don't care too much. Who knows.

  • @hopefultraveler3543
    @hopefultraveler3543 2 года назад

    Starting at 3:15 there was a ring in the fountain. Maybe someone had an appointment at the bridal shop and changed their mind about the wedding.

  • @pierluc_cr
    @pierluc_cr 5 лет назад

    Code to go to restrooms like in France! Are-they equipped with sprinklers who start "cleaning" the room every 15 minutes whatever it has someone inside or not?

  • @nickyoung630
    @nickyoung630 4 года назад

    This place looks just like a place near me called Trinity Tuscan Center which for some odd reason has been under construction off and on since 2007. Idk if it’ll ever open but I have a feeling when it does it’ll be this dead.

  • @jeffhalebopp
    @jeffhalebopp 5 лет назад

    Very nice and smooth 60fps footage. It was noticeable right away. Everything is is focus. I thought you were using a gimbal but I think it was the latest go pro :) For walking around and lots of movement, 60fps is the only way to go. 4k 60p would even be better even if you down-sampled it to 1440p for RUclips :) Thanks for the video.

  • @qutaybahimran7029
    @qutaybahimran7029 5 лет назад

    Yo the fountain shot was tight.

  • @kmaldo16
    @kmaldo16 5 лет назад +7

    Imagine taking these malls and making them into a small community with a its own market and medical center learning centers and small pd force

    • @KaneshaAndrews
      @KaneshaAndrews 5 лет назад +1

      Oddly enough, I was thinking the same thing.

  • @origamiandcats6873
    @origamiandcats6873 5 лет назад

    I went to the nove website and I couldn't look around unless I subscribed to their newsletter.

  • @subzeroarctics1299
    @subzeroarctics1299 5 лет назад +6

    Malls need to start offering rent as a percentage of revenue. When there are empty units, there's no reason not to.

    • @elivr6046
      @elivr6046 5 лет назад

      they have for eons, they're all NNN, Triple net.

    • @rxonmymind8362
      @rxonmymind8362 5 лет назад

      Just reasonable rent. Do demand part of the companies profit. Oh and if you're a really shrewed businessman ONLY charge rent once you make a profit.
      This coming from the owners of Squaw valley Mall in Lake Tahoe. He invited people into his mall, didn't charge rent for couple years to help establish the small stores then started to turn a profit.
      That's what you call smart business.

  • @XxGyromancerXx
    @XxGyromancerXx 5 лет назад

    My favorite outdoor malls in the area are Tempe and Desert Ridge Marketplace. Those places are pretty awesome. There are some pretty good local bands playing at Desert Ridge from time to time. Almost everything about Snobbsdale is gaudy and pretentious. It's my hometown but I very much prefer Tempe, Chandler, some parts of Mesa, and Ahwatukee. I've found better and more well rounded people around there.

  • @pumbaapig
    @pumbaapig 5 лет назад +2

    I think you pointing out the pretentious look could be part of the reason why the mall didn't succeed. That along with the prices of some of these places probably drove the average customer which is important to a successful business.

  • @schultzdigital1
    @schultzdigital1 3 года назад

    You didn't mention Azadi rugs!

  • @antonfarquar8799
    @antonfarquar8799 5 лет назад +1

    Go look at the Valley Ho hotel in old downtown Scottsdale Cafe ZuZu great food.

  • @DLDX
    @DLDX 5 лет назад +1

    Stay on target!

  • @claudef7603
    @claudef7603 5 лет назад +3

    I love you!

  • @VegasLounge
    @VegasLounge 5 лет назад +1

    0:32, a Health/Beauty/Fitness space called..."Hypoxi"? As in, "lack of sufficient oxygen supply"?

  • @frankdenardo8684
    @frankdenardo8684 5 лет назад

    do you have El Con mall in Tucson Arizona?

  • @f23948
    @f23948 5 лет назад

    very nice luxurious mall but sadly there were no customer at all and it's almost empty but hey thank you for another great video

  • @ricashbringer9866
    @ricashbringer9866 5 лет назад +1

    My daughter likes the railroad park. It is a nice park and railroad museum. That mall never attracted us. It did not seem it caterd to the middle class. Thus the problem. So I would go up to Shea for food.

  • @dbathandbodylounge
    @dbathandbodylounge 5 лет назад

    Another. Great video. Thank you for following up. What do you think of 6th Avenue in Old Town. I found a home for my business in Old Town Scottsdale, so thank you.

  • @Jumboo364
    @Jumboo364 5 лет назад +1

    Just as a matter of feedback because i love your work. The music got a bit distracting at 9:15. Couldn’t really understand your voice for a bit.

  • @petermgruhn
    @petermgruhn 3 года назад

    That was totally my Starbucks. I bet Sunset Dave[?] is still coming by.
    Is all of Phoenix dying?

  • @ItsTheCostanza
    @ItsTheCostanza 5 лет назад

    Fancy Dead Mall Series

  • @alexandermckay8594
    @alexandermckay8594 5 лет назад

    Deja vu!

  • @vasilevanda2248
    @vasilevanda2248 5 лет назад +1

    Just heads up, Sushi Sen is amazing! The best dann Japanese restaurant in Arizona. Authentic and very nicely priced.

    • @NathanLJustice
      @NathanLJustice 5 лет назад

      I looked up their facebook. It looks good.

  • @darktetsuya
    @darktetsuya 5 лет назад

    does the leasing office not own their own building? that's the only explanation it's just weird! lol always cool to see the fountain-cam... those stones were kinda neat actually.

  • @nodnarb101
    @nodnarb101 5 лет назад

    Should have checked out the mall map. Bet a lot of places are still labeled on it.

  • @Aventerra01
    @Aventerra01 5 лет назад

    I think I've only been there once for Ruth Chris. But yeah why go there if Kierland is up North and Fashion Square is a little south? Though I wish AZ had more hidden gems to check out.

  • @kendalson7817
    @kendalson7817 5 лет назад

    It looks like Rumors hair salon was closed. They were a big deal once. Even 20 years ago that mall was half empty. Fashion Square and Kierland have cannibalized shopping in that area.

  • @kurisu7885
    @kurisu7885 5 лет назад +1

    Man, whoever owns that place is taking care of it.

  • @Steve.Cutler
    @Steve.Cutler 2 года назад

    The water in that fountain was disgusting.

  • @garbage854
    @garbage854 5 лет назад

    Cool 😀

  • @petermgruhn
    @petermgruhn 3 года назад

    Recently sold.. Ah, there you go. None of that is actually for lease. They're just waiting to close down and build a giant dense multifam. Don't think of the price as "per square foot of retail." THink of it as acres of housing.

  • @FrenchieSIX
    @FrenchieSIX 5 лет назад

    They need like a rebranding...something to bring appeal to it again

    • @rxonmymind8362
      @rxonmymind8362 5 лет назад

      LOWER rent leases and hands off the profits.

  • @rxonmymind8362
    @rxonmymind8362 5 лет назад

    Turn the upper area into a living apartment and downstairs put in a grocery stores.

  • @NathanLJustice
    @NathanLJustice 5 лет назад

    Ruths Chris is damn good.

  • @crominion6045
    @crominion6045 5 лет назад

    Just by incidentally having some music in the background for a few moments you can get a strike? Has the copyright issue become that absurd? 😲

    • @syxepop
      @syxepop 5 лет назад

      Cro Minion, some YT creators have had copyright strikes (or demonetization) for as few as 4 seconds, that depends on how wild is the copyright holder.

  • @jtlovescodelyoko
    @jtlovescodelyoko 5 лет назад +2

    Hello, Erik
    It's Me Joseph Tafur
    This is my new account, RUclips Suspended my old account for reason that were not true and that they don't tell me. But I'm back supporting your great content.

  • @Jarretthicks12
    @Jarretthicks12 5 лет назад

    So do people on the west coast just not like malls?

    • @RetailArchaeology
      @RetailArchaeology  5 лет назад +1

      I think the issue is there are way to many malls and retail spaces.

  • @markadams9267
    @markadams9267 4 года назад

    What is the point of a mall like this? Scottsdale Fashion Square is 3 miles away and much more popular. Was this supposed to be oriented towards high end independent shops? It seems like if this became an outlet shopping area like the Phoenix Premium Outlets it could succeed, but those seem to rely a lot on passer-by highway business, so I'm not even sure about that. I think this is too big to really succeed. If it was right in or next to Old Town (downtown) Scottsdale, there might have been greater potential.

  • @user-ho3dx3od9y
    @user-ho3dx3od9y 5 лет назад

    If this place couldn’t make on the first time around I doubt it can a second time. The new owner clearly over paid for this property. Yes it looks well maintained but if there are no stores, and more importantly no customers there’s no hope. Great video though.

  • @chrislemaster2695
    @chrislemaster2695 5 лет назад +1

    Malls are a dying breed. America's all malled out

  • @ShannonBrownauthor
    @ShannonBrownauthor 5 лет назад +2

    I want to know what the cafe with a Bible verse on the walls was. Is there a chain beyond Chick Fil-A that flaunts it's religious affiliations like that? This mall looks too way upscale to have a Bible bookstore/cafe inside.