What are your thoughts on the Porsche Cayenne Diesel Platinum Edition? If you're familiar with the car, I would be interested in hearing you compare/contrast it with the Touareg Diesel Executive.
@@RedondoBeach2 to be honest I don’t know to much about the Porsche. I believe they are very similar cars over all just the Porsche is a more luxurious version of the Touareg.
@@ThreePedalGarage I appreciate the honesty. I always liked the Touareg and think it's a far nicer quality car than the Tiguan even if the technology is older. Wish it wasn't discontinued. After watching your video, I started looking for used ones online just to have a look. Today, they're an aberration in the used car market. Many have extremely low miles. Buying one is tempting. One of the big things that will prevent me from buying one, is the perception the cars have after Diesel Gate, and therefore the potential problems with resale if I were to ever want to sell one. Keep making great VW videos. Im the original owner of a 2004 VW GTI 2.8L 24v VR6 that continues to be a great daily driver, maintained in OEM+ condition. Unsure if you received one of my prior messages about the car. I'm slowly gathering parts to refresh the suspension, timing chains,, clutch, engine mounts, coolant hoses and certain engine accessories. The intent is to do all of the work at one time. I have never done this work before but continue to learn as much as possible in order to be as well prepared as possible. I understand you are or have rebuilt an R32. Is there any way we can talk about that rebuild and the one I'm planning? Talking to someone who has experience with what I'm getting ready to do would give me more insight and confidence. If you prefer not to, I understand and respect that too.
The clip at 4:21 & 7:14 is me. All Touaregs have the same tow rating, 7710-7716 lbs depending on year. There was also the 4.2L V8 and 3.0L TDi (T3). The Maintenance and repair on the V8 and V10 engines require the frame to come off for even some basic repairs which amplifies repair costs and killed resale values. There is a great aftermarket bearing available for the intermediate drive shaft bearing replacement which is mainly only an issue with the VR6 and V8 models. I sold my 2006 V10 in the video and have a 2008 3.6 VR6 now, much more simple to maintain but not as cool. If you do get either TDI versions, bypass the EGR valve and give your intake systems a full clean from filters to intake valves. They gum up extremely bad in all TDI's.
What repair on the V8 requires the frame to come off ? Never heard that before? I know W12 Phaetons, u have to drop the motor for alternator, V10 TDI same. Never heard about V8, can you clarify?
all tdi have carbon build up ,, thats why i use injector cleaner whenever i full up the tank, not just for the injectors but all the fuel system and the DPF when keep clean will save you many thousands of dollars when you dont need to replace the dpf valves, seats,turbos etc,,best of fun
You forgot to mention the 2010 Touareg TDI V6 3.0l R Line . With similar equipment as the R50 but without the V10 and wheel arches. Unofficially VW NA brought around 30 units of those.
they let you know they are the machine and you are the driver, that you shouldn’t fear if you know your limits, and it will teach you the limits to meet, thats how i would describe it.
Great vlog dude .Im in the UK and I drive a MK5 R32 and I didn’t even know there was an R50 . Knew about the R36 just not this one . Looks awesome . Don’t think we even got it in the UK but if we did it’s ultra rare . Ive never seen one . Even the R32 MK4 and MK5 are pretty much collectors cars now . Lovin the channel dude 👍😃
Thank you bro! Ya it’s a very rare car! They were sold in the UK but good luck finding one! They are super rare even in Germany people don’t see them lol!
Love this car so much I have two R50's in the garage they have been trouble free and pull like a 16 year old schoolboy I regularly tow 2 and a half tonnes you hardly know its on the hitch an absolute joy to drive and economical on diesel they are "The dogs balls" mate .......
The R32 was not the first R, it was the Golf Rallye. The R32 was a modern recreation of the Golf Rallye. Also not sure how you do math but the base Touareg price was around 36k. The Toaureg V10 Price Range (MSRP): $85,400 - $97,970 in the US making that at least twice the price of a base model with the R50 being even more than that.
I’m considering all R models that’s are a R the rallye golf yes you could say it was the first R car but the R32 was the first car that was branded as a R car. I am going to do a video on the rallye golf but just have so many other cars to do first. And I don’t think I put the MSRP of the us base v10 TDI I put the base price of the R50 and the base Touareg. For the math I took the MSRP in euros and converted in using the 2008 exchange rate.
@@ThreePedalGarage If you want to look R badged vehicles they slap the R line on everything now a days! The Golf Rallye was the first true R. If you want to compare the price of the euro Touaregs then the price difference is even greater. They offered a R5 model too, not R50. It was a a base model 2.5L inline 5 turbo diesel. The 5 was for 5 cylinders and it was the cheapest Touareg you could buy. Far cheaper than our V6. It could be so stripped down it could have cloth seats (not even an option in the US). It even had a different wheel bolt pattern with different brakes! So the price difference between an R5 and R50 could easily double if not tripple. The W12 was also a lot better than the R50. The W12 should have gotten the R badge.
@@Caymanec I 100% disagree. The Rallye checks all the boxes of a proper R model. It has better body styling, AWD, largest HP engine of its body, and sporty interior with high bolster seats. It was also never sold to be a rally car. It was twice the price of a Golf (50,000 DM in 1989) making it too expensive to buy then race. It was also in a rally class against 2 other cars that made more than 50hp above the Golf Rallye. VW/Audi already knew what it would take to win at rally since they were dominating with the Audi Quattro. They would have known for sure the Golf would not come close to winning in its class. It would have been noncompetitive before it ever rolled off the assembly line. It is no different than trying to rally a 2004 R32 when it was new. Also where do you think the R came from in 2004 while naming a Golf? Of all 26 letters in the alphabet and they happen to pick R with no ties to the older Golf... I really don't see how anyone can exclude this car from the R lineup, it checks all the boxes and was the most expensive VW of its day.
These v10 s are awesome so good I bought one after a trip towing cars from Sth Aust to nth Queensland. &rtn. power and economy and great brakes & super collectable for the future
The major concern is supposedly CO2. Diesel engines put out much less CO2 as they burn much leaner. 30+ years ago there was a problem with acid rain. This is caused by NOx. However it immediately vanished overnight with the requirements for scrubbers on coal fired powerplants that put out multiple 1000% NOx compared to untreated diesel engines at much higher temperature that went into the atmosphere. Acid rain and smog in LA (caused by gasoline engines) are what lit off the war on NOx. Like any Government dogs they refuse to let something go once they put a label on it. Automobiles absolutely do not pollute the atmosphere with NOx. Why not you may ask? Well because auto exhaust is not superheated like a coal fired boiler. NOx is heavier than air, even at engine exhaust temperature. It simply settles to the ground and turns into dirt. The same applies to particulates. Relivent amounts have not been found since long before the war on diesel. This began in the mid 80s with acid rain in America (while coal powerplants operated with no filtration system for emissions. It started in Europe after the Dieselgate incident. Here's the kicker, US air quality with same temp and humidity as Europe was always worse. In Europe where everyone drove a Diesel until last year had much cleaner air. They've since become stone stupid and just buy whatever BS politicians in America are selling. Zero intelligence in EU Government now. It's become pathetic. Anyhow gas petrol engines operate at much hotter exhaust temperature and put more CO, CO2 in the air than an equivalent diesel even without a horse 🐴 piss injection system. Take this however you like but diesel is better for the environment and more efficient than petrol. Government is forcing people not to buy diesel with these completely stupid dirt (particulates) filters. Yes, they want to collect a miniscule amount of dust from tdi cars. It's all a farce with absolutely no facts to back the Draconian measures taken for something that was over with 30 years ago. Most of you probably won't remember acid rain. That's the reason for the war on diesel. Stupid Aholes don't care that the problem disappeared 30 years ago. They keep attacking.
Blah blah blah… it’s a shit hot suv with a super donk that’ll peel the skin off your morning coffee. CO2 is food for trees! So get out there and feed the trees!!
spiralnapkin It was a jack of all trades. Luxury performance SUV that’s just as good off road. The 2010 was given above average reliability ratings. They should have never redesigned it, they had just figured out reliability.
@@ThreePedalGarage didn't know that, thought it only got the V10 TDI! If I remember correctly the Touareg got the W12 gas engine but not the V12 TDI 🤔 either way that's a cool engine aswell but the TDI torque speaks for itself
well actually yes. yes they did but only in europe and in a model called the R25 by some people lol anf was a 2.5 5 Cyl turbo diesel. yes A 5 Cyl!!! how beautiful right??. that was the only model that came with standard manual and auto was an option.
cool video about the r50 man. just a public speaking suggestion - you need to work on holding back from saying Actually and Basically. I feel like you said those two words much too often. :)
Thank you for the suggestion! I will take that and concentrate on trying to say them less. Thank you for the constructive criticism! It will help me grow and be more comfortable with future videos. 👍🏻
@@ThreePedalGarage you do a great job presenting.... You r not a professional at this, just a super Vdub enthusiast. I think you do a really good job! Keep up the good work. Always great content and the passion shows thru. Thx for the channel, I dig it
@@kevinroberts361 thank you for the kind words! Ya I’m working on the presenting skills lol but yes as you can tell I am a big VW guy lol I love these cars and I want people to learn all about them!
They never numbered the R50s but from talking to people in Europe they are incredibly hard to find. Around 1,000-2,000 were made but to be honest I’m not sure.
Yep you are right I did a video all on the Rallye golf also. I consider the rallye golf not really a R product. It was its own stand alone car. The R branding started with the R32 but yes if you want to go all the way back it would be the Rallye golf.
Now that’s something worth buying lol! I’d love one but 1. They are almost impossible to find and 2. For now I do not have that kind of money to buy one lol. But if I did that would be my SUV
@@ThreePedalGarage Hi, Andrew. In Russia we have about 8-10 W12 in sale. Prices are between 8-9k.€ But nobody wants to buy them: 1 year road tax for 450 hp is 1k €, fuel consumption min. 20l/100 km, W12 is difficult engine to maintain. Thats why someone would prefer x5 e53 4.8is or ml63amg w164 for same price.
Thanks for watching! Let’s try to get this video up to 100 likes!
What are your thoughts on the Porsche Cayenne Diesel Platinum Edition? If you're familiar with the car, I would be interested in hearing you compare/contrast it with the Touareg Diesel Executive.
@@RedondoBeach2 to be honest I don’t know to much about the Porsche. I believe they are very similar cars over all just the Porsche is a more luxurious version of the Touareg.
@@ThreePedalGarage I appreciate the honesty. I always liked the Touareg and think it's a far nicer quality car than the Tiguan even if the technology is older. Wish it wasn't discontinued. After watching your video, I started looking for used ones online just to have a look. Today, they're an aberration in the used car market. Many have extremely low miles. Buying one is tempting. One of the big things that will prevent me from buying one, is the perception the cars have after Diesel Gate, and therefore the potential problems with resale if I were to ever want to sell one. Keep making great VW videos. Im the original owner of a 2004 VW GTI 2.8L 24v VR6 that continues to be a great daily driver, maintained in OEM+ condition. Unsure if you received one of my prior messages about the car. I'm slowly gathering parts to refresh the suspension, timing chains,, clutch, engine mounts, coolant hoses and certain engine accessories. The intent is to do all of the work at one time. I have never done this work before but continue to learn as much as possible in order to be as well prepared as possible. I understand you are or have rebuilt an R32. Is there any way we can talk about that rebuild and the one I'm planning? Talking to someone who has experience with what I'm getting ready to do would give me more insight and confidence. If you prefer not to, I understand and respect that too.
The clip at 4:21 & 7:14 is me. All Touaregs have the same tow rating, 7710-7716 lbs depending on year. There was also the 4.2L V8 and 3.0L TDi (T3). The Maintenance and repair on the V8 and V10 engines require the frame to come off for even some basic repairs which amplifies repair costs and killed resale values. There is a great aftermarket bearing available for the intermediate drive shaft bearing replacement which is mainly only an issue with the VR6 and V8 models. I sold my 2006 V10 in the video and have a 2008 3.6 VR6 now, much more simple to maintain but not as cool. If you do get either TDI versions, bypass the EGR valve and give your intake systems a full clean from filters to intake valves. They gum up extremely bad in all TDI's.
fastgolfr32 oh cool! Ya good to know! They are nice cars but ya the maintenance seems to be a real pain!
What repair on the V8 requires the frame to come off ? Never heard that before? I know W12 Phaetons, u have to drop the motor for alternator, V10 TDI same. Never heard about V8, can you clarify?
all tdi have carbon build up ,, thats why i use injector cleaner whenever i full up the tank, not just for the injectors but all the fuel system and the DPF when keep clean will save you many thousands of dollars when you dont need to replace the dpf valves, seats,turbos etc,,best of fun
Great video! I love my Touareg w/ the 3.6 VR6. A lot of people don't even know how awesome that SUV is.
It’s a pretty sweet car
You forgot to mention the 2010 Touareg TDI V6 3.0l R Line . With similar equipment as the R50 but without the V10 and wheel arches.
Unofficially VW NA brought around 30 units of those.
Man. What a rocking beast of a vehicle. Just love it.
Yep I agree!
Just what i needed! thank you! i wish you to have 1 million subs!
Hopefully one day I will just need to keep putting out content
Great vid bro
Keep up the great work 👍
The is bro! If you have any suggestions for future cars let me know
Love the content, been watching all year, i have the v10 2004 apparently 450 units in north america for that year, lucky free market used buyer
Haha yep they are really cool cars! I wish we got the R50 here but nothing we can do
they let you know they are the machine and you are the driver, that you shouldn’t fear if you know your limits, and it will teach you the limits to meet, thats how i would describe it.
Thanks well done
Great vlog dude .Im in the UK and I drive a MK5 R32 and I didn’t even know there was an R50 . Knew about the R36 just not this one . Looks awesome . Don’t think we even got it in the UK but if we did it’s ultra rare . Ive never seen one . Even the R32 MK4 and MK5 are pretty much collectors cars now . Lovin the channel dude 👍😃
Thank you bro! Ya it’s a very rare car! They were sold in the UK but good luck finding one! They are super rare even in Germany people don’t see them lol!
Hi mk5 r32 owner, im also an mk5 r32 owner who lives in the uk.. nice to meet you. Haha,
Which colour did you choose and how many doors?
we do have the r50 not many in uk go to the vw festival in Leeds one go's there. white is the rarest colour and only 15 colour blue r36 in uk
NA misses out on all the cool stuff. The plain old v10 is definitely still a blast and are fairly affordable now.
Good to know! There are a few in the US but they are expensive
Love this car so much I have two R50's in the garage they have been trouble free and pull like a 16 year old schoolboy I regularly tow 2 and a half tonnes you hardly know its on the hitch an absolute joy to drive and economical on diesel they are "The dogs balls" mate .......
Great to hear your really enjoying the car! I wish we got them in the US
Please let me know when you want to get rid of one of them - I lost my normal treg to theft last year :(
Thanks for your advice, I have bought a blue one in mint condition only 110k km's
@@guidovandekamp8709 oh wow! Very nice! Congratulations
A future classic for sure
Yep I agree!
Related to how many R50 were made, 906 examples is the number.
@@chuckdiesel8712 thank you for the information! It’s a pretty rare car
coolest suv period
Steven Yoo yep I agree!
The R32 was not the first R, it was the Golf Rallye. The R32 was a modern recreation of the Golf Rallye. Also not sure how you do math but the base Touareg price was around 36k. The Toaureg V10 Price Range (MSRP): $85,400 - $97,970 in the US making that at least twice the price of a base model with the R50 being even more than that.
I’m considering all R models that’s are a R the rallye golf yes you could say it was the first R car but the R32 was the first car that was branded as a R car. I am going to do a video on the rallye golf but just have so many other cars to do first. And I don’t think I put the MSRP of the us base v10 TDI I put the base price of the R50 and the base Touareg. For the math I took the MSRP in euros and converted in using the 2008 exchange rate.
@@ThreePedalGarage If you want to look R badged vehicles they slap the R line on everything now a days! The Golf Rallye was the first true R. If you want to compare the price of the euro Touaregs then the price difference is even greater. They offered a R5 model too, not R50. It was a a base model 2.5L inline 5 turbo diesel. The 5 was for 5 cylinders and it was the cheapest Touareg you could buy. Far cheaper than our V6. It could be so stripped down it could have cloth seats (not even an option in the US). It even had a different wheel bolt pattern with different brakes! So the price difference between an R5 and R50 could easily double if not tripple. The W12 was also a lot better than the R50. The W12 should have gotten the R badge.
@@mattlarson9897 the golf ralley was rally oriented car and not inline with R-philosofy
@@Caymanec I 100% disagree. The Rallye checks all the boxes of a proper R model. It has better body styling, AWD, largest HP engine of its body, and sporty interior with high bolster seats. It was also never sold to be a rally car. It was twice the price of a Golf (50,000 DM in 1989) making it too expensive to buy then race. It was also in a rally class against 2 other cars that made more than 50hp above the Golf Rallye. VW/Audi already knew what it would take to win at rally since they were dominating with the Audi Quattro. They would have known for sure the Golf would not come close to winning in its class. It would have been noncompetitive before it ever rolled off the assembly line. It is no different than trying to rally a 2004 R32 when it was new. Also where do you think the R came from in 2004 while naming a Golf? Of all 26 letters in the alphabet and they happen to pick R with no ties to the older Golf... I really don't see how anyone can exclude this car from the R lineup, it checks all the boxes and was the most expensive VW of its day.
I would like to see an "all you need to know" video about the Scirocco.
Magellanic SpaceClouds I think I should do one lol I wasn’t going to since Donut media did one but a lot of people have asked
@@ThreePedalGarage The playlist seems incomplete without it.
Magellanic SpaceClouds ya that’s a good point. I’ll add that one onto my list and bump it up to the top lol
I frraking love the Touareg
It’s a pretty awesome car!!
These v10 s are awesome so good I bought one after a trip towing cars from Sth Aust to nth Queensland. &rtn. power and economy and great brakes & super collectable for the future
The major concern is supposedly CO2. Diesel engines put out much less CO2 as they burn much leaner.
30+ years ago there was a problem with acid rain. This is caused by NOx. However it immediately vanished overnight with the requirements for scrubbers on coal fired powerplants that put out multiple 1000% NOx compared to untreated diesel engines at much higher temperature that went into the atmosphere. Acid rain and smog in LA (caused by gasoline engines) are what lit off the war on NOx. Like any Government dogs they refuse to let something go once they put a label on it.
Automobiles absolutely do not pollute the atmosphere with NOx. Why not you may ask? Well because auto exhaust is not superheated like a coal fired boiler. NOx is heavier than air, even at engine exhaust temperature. It simply settles to the ground and turns into dirt. The same applies to particulates. Relivent amounts have not been found since long before the war on diesel. This began in the mid 80s with acid rain in America (while coal powerplants operated with no filtration system for emissions. It started in Europe after the Dieselgate incident. Here's the kicker, US air quality with same temp and humidity as Europe was always worse. In Europe where everyone drove a Diesel until last year had much cleaner air. They've since become stone stupid and just buy whatever BS politicians in America are selling. Zero intelligence in EU Government now. It's become pathetic. Anyhow gas petrol engines operate at much hotter exhaust temperature and put more CO, CO2 in the air than an equivalent diesel even without a horse 🐴 piss injection system. Take this however you like but diesel is better for the environment and more efficient than petrol. Government is forcing people not to buy diesel with these completely stupid dirt (particulates) filters. Yes, they want to collect a miniscule amount of dust from tdi cars. It's all a farce with absolutely no facts to back the Draconian measures taken for something that was over with 30 years ago. Most of you probably won't remember acid rain. That's the reason for the war on diesel. Stupid Aholes don't care that the problem disappeared 30 years ago. They keep attacking.
Blah blah blah… it’s a shit hot suv with a super donk that’ll peel the skin off your morning coffee.
CO2 is food for trees! So get out there and feed the trees!!
Weird thing - R50 was not for sale in Russia. But you could buy W12 or V10 TDi.
Sergey T. Oh got you so your in the same boat as we are in the US
@@ThreePedalGarage I don't think USA got W12 in the touareg.
There ain’t nothing ordinary or mundane about the original touareg! One of the best SUV’s ever made
What makes it so good? How is it for reliability?
spiralnapkin It was a jack of all trades. Luxury performance SUV that’s just as good off road. The 2010 was given above average reliability ratings. They should have never redesigned it, they had just figured out reliability.
Beast cc winner in horizon 4 lol
Just a little correction, the coolest SUV Volkswagen has made to date is the Audi Q7 V12 TDI
You know they also made a v12 TDI for the Touareg. It’s the same generation Touareg as the R50
@@ThreePedalGarage didn't know that, thought it only got the V10 TDI! If I remember correctly the Touareg got the W12 gas engine but not the V12 TDI 🤔 either way that's a cool engine aswell but the TDI torque speaks for itself
Bought mine here 12,991 euro Loved my old V10
Congrats on the purchase! They seem like cool cars. Not sure how much they are to fix but I’d love a R50
Hi im from north africa and i got vw golf 4 tdi for 12years
Hello! Welcome to the channel! Glade to see you found your way here! How do you like your TDI?
My tdi is not mulfunction and it is patient and fast at road
Sometimes its consume fuel during the speed
did it ever come with a manual?
P E A C H sadly nope they only came in DSG
well actually yes. yes they did but only in europe and in a model called the R25 by some people lol anf was a 2.5 5 Cyl turbo diesel. yes A 5 Cyl!!! how beautiful right??. that was the only model that came with standard manual and auto was an option.
Allan Banojakedjian wow that pretty cool! Thank you for the information!
Just wanted to point out that they also turned into a robot then raced it in the Dakar.
cool video about the r50 man. just a public speaking suggestion - you need to work on holding back from saying Actually and Basically. I feel like you said those two words much too often. :)
Thank you for the suggestion! I will take that and concentrate on trying to say them less. Thank you for the constructive criticism! It will help me grow and be more comfortable with future videos. 👍🏻
@@ThreePedalGarage I think you are doing a great job so far! Keep on posting cool VAG stuff 😁👌
@@ThreePedalGarage you do a great job presenting.... You r not a professional at this, just a super Vdub enthusiast. I think you do a really good job! Keep up the good work. Always great content and the passion shows thru. Thx for the channel, I dig it
@@kevinroberts361 thank you for the kind words! Ya I’m working on the presenting skills lol but yes as you can tell I am a big VW guy lol I love these cars and I want people to learn all about them!
TWAREG not TOREG
Potato pototo
How many R50 were made?
They never numbered the R50s but from talking to people in Europe they are incredibly hard to find. Around 1,000-2,000 were made but to be honest I’m not sure.
technically the very very first R model was the mk1 Rallye golf
Yep you are right I did a video all on the Rallye golf also. I consider the rallye golf not really a R product. It was its own stand alone car. The R branding started with the R32 but yes if you want to go all the way back it would be the Rallye golf.
@@ThreePedalGarage ah yes technicalities. Yes I agree with you the R32 was the first R branded product
@@demonkiller3418 lol ya all technicalities on what people think what is a R product the R32 or the Rallye golf.
Lol why no r25 passat with runner v6 diesel
What you'll say about owning the Rare 450hp W12 touareg 😏 ?
Now that’s something worth buying lol! I’d love one but 1. They are almost impossible to find and 2. For now I do not have that kind of money to buy one lol. But if I did that would be my SUV
@@ThreePedalGarage believe me bro , even if you got money for it, it's impossible to get money for it's service😂
ali bashir 😂😂 oh I’m sure they are a nightmare
@@ThreePedalGarage Hi, Andrew. In Russia we have about 8-10 W12 in sale. Prices are between 8-9k.€ But nobody wants to buy them: 1 year road tax for 450 hp is 1k €, fuel consumption min. 20l/100 km, W12 is difficult engine to maintain. Thats why someone would prefer x5 e53 4.8is or ml63amg w164 for same price.
Sergey T. Ya that makes a lot of sense
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i would call this a baby audi q7 v12 tdi
Ya that’s a very good point. They also made a V12 Touareg but they are so hard to find.
@@ThreePedalGarage its a w12 touareg and its petrol but i guess they can be rare
You show some pretty ugly r32 golfs. Why not the factory original golf4 r32?
Lol 😂 because if I did a stock R32 I wouldn’t get comments like this lol. My not be your style but a lot of people like them modified more.
@@ThreePedalGarage optically modifying an R32 is just dumb and devaluates it. Its a true classic if original.
Jesus Christ....... A masterclass on how to drag a subject out and bore everyone to death!!!
Lol 😂😂
masterclass non the less
bla bla bla nur gelaaber
Amazing off road - on road car. 🦾
Yep! 1000%