How the hell were the smart enough to figure this out way back when. I can’t even wrap my head around a scratch in a disk will play back an identical sound
@Wizzykin thats easy, the earbuds have tiny speakers in it which receives bluetooth signals, those signals are turned to electrical signals for your speakers which basically mimicks your eardrums, for every sound, the speakers mimicks the vibration to your ear, which your brain processes it into sound.
well, that's what your eardrum does. and you are able to differentiate between multiple sounds, all of them hitting the same eardrum (well, two eardrums, unless you're unlucky). still hard to believe it's that simple, though.
i searched it because artist selling this thing for their album instead of cd...I thought vinyl is analog cd thing that play sound...and im really dumb and shocked that people still listen to a song with this flat vinyl...need to learn about turntables after this lmao
What doesn't make any sense to me at all is how a single speaker can produce the sound of a guitar, bass, drums and vocals at the same time. Just blows my mind how does one speaker vibrate in a way to produce the sounds of many things coherently lol
Your ears are only one membrane (okay, two working in stereo) that vibrates in response to the sound that comes into contact with it. Your brain is just really good at hearing all these different frequencies at once and figuring out which ones belong together and which ones are seperate--kind of like how your brain is really good at figuring out which colors belong to one object and which colors are background. The speaker only has to produce the same vibration that your ear will experience; it's your brain that is tricked into differentiating the different frequencies in that sound image into guitars and voices and whatnot. Think of the speaker as spoofing your eardrum.
I read that and thought hell yea that’s pretty impressive and I have no idea how that works. But the truth is one speaker doesn’t do that very well at all in most cases. A good stereo system usually has several speakers that all have their own job, tweeters do the highs, mid range obviously do the midrange, subs do the bass.
I got into collecting vinyl because I missed having something physical to collect for my music. I went fully MP3 many years ago, selling all of my CDs and only listening to digital music. But there's just something nice about owning your favourite albums on vinyl. The artwork looks great when it is that big, you get gatefold sleeves that look amazing, limited editions and coloured vinyl, the little ritual of starting your player and placing the stylus and just the sheer joy of having something physical to represent your musical interests. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it isn't all about if it sounds "better" or not. It's much more than that. Plus I also kind of like the way it sounds too. Maybe not necessarily better, but just nicer.
My car still doesn't have an aux port, so I just collect CDs instead. For me, collecting CDs is better than collecting vinyl, since the music's bass is better conserved.
I collect CD's mainly because I dont have a proper turntable and because i find that alot of music sounds warmer on CD's than on vinyl. Specially metal/rock music. But id love to invest in a proper turntable sometime and really dig into LP's.
I wanna say I am the same as you Dan Xepha, and to those who say you cant tell a difference..you need a nice system to really bring everything together.. and as far as bass...I have some records that bang, old school stuff that has crazy bass...
I keep CDs. They're so shiny and so convenient. The only reason vinyl can sound better is because the source is physical. Get a good release and the difference between vinyl and CD vanishes. The best sounding version of Thriller is the SACD. Also, the budget of getting a turntable and building a sound system is off the rails for me.
Dan Xepha I was born and raised in an analog world, and only bought vinyl for a long time. That was until my whole record collection was stolen about 20 years ago. Yeah, I'm old! I've been exclusively digital for a long time now but, hell, I'm getting the vinyl bug. I won't replace my music, or duplicate my collection; that would be too expensive for me; but I would like to add a turntable and some vinyl to the mix. I do miss albums.
Shift Happens Radio I’m sorry I’m super late, but I understand it to a extent. Vibrations make scratches into the record. If you put a needle into those same scratches, they make the same noise as the thing that made the scratches. Long story short, needle make scratches, scratches make noise
Hypnotoad it’s kinda like how people say water has memory. If you scratch a noise into a object using vibrations and a needle, the exact same vibrations will come out if a needle is put in again. The same vibrations used to indent it will be the noises coming out, it would be weird for another noise to come out. The needle saves the noise, and is what also brings It out. Like if you scratched into a vinyl *hey my name is frog* , the scratches if went through again will say *hey my name is frog*.
@@jotarokujo-starplatinum6286 Heroes always come late to save the day!! Better late then never!! For years now i had always been wondering how does it work? But I didn't get around to it until today at 1am.. Thank you for enlightening me JoJo.
It blows my mind that every sound,.every infinite combination of sound, can be cut into a groove. You could have Elvis singing along with a car horn and glass breaking, and there is a pattern that will duplicate that exactly.
Same here, I don't understand how several waves can be recorded in a single groove. Also what are the chances that we have the right materials on earth to allow such ideas to be feasible.. #mindblown
It sounds crazy until you realize what a sound is, which is a wave. The waves can be recorded visually and then read again to produce the recorded wave. The waves are actually 3-dimensional like a sphere, but if you cut a sphere in half you see it as a 2D line which is what a waveform is. When thinking of a 3D bubble expanding outward, imagine dropping a rock into a pond with a mirror above it. The water displacements is what happens to the air. The vibration of air is what makes sound, because you need a medium to create the waves in. So each sound, whether a fart or Elvis singing is just a unique set of ripples that move air around. That's why any sound can be recorded because it's just different waveforms. It is really interesting
i still don't understand how the different bumps and depth of the grove contain the sounds of voices, horns, pianos and so forth. this explained nothing.
no sound is exactly the same, they will all be translated into a different sound wave, it's like notes where every note will technically be the same, the sound waves will take in consideration everything while translating it; think of it as if writing the music's notes was like taking notes in a class vs the sounds waves that more comparable to someone re-transcribing every word, sounds, pause, punctuation, etc of the lecture. Hope that helps you understand!
No matter how many times anyone explains this to me it still feels like some type of amazing sorcery. I can't get my head round why it works. It feels unbelievable, yet it is everywhere. Super amazing science that twists my melon!
It's a miracle that we have discovered that certain vibrations of a cutting stylus can produce bumpy grooves in wax/resin material, and those grooves can vibrate a needle to reproduce those exact (well, at least roughly) sounds recorded in the disc.
I an electrical engineer that grew up with vinyl records and never had the itch to learn (shame on me; aren't engineers supposed to be so intellectually curious that their findings out of that curiosity turn into real-world solutions to normal Joes/Janes?) how in the world a sound coming out of somebody's mouth or instrument resonance box was recorded for the eternity in a piece of plastic!!! And, all of a sudden, after years hooked into MP3 and digital streaming I am having this itch to go back to the "old" music listening experience and I am spending money in loudspeakers and about to get into a turntable to playback those LPs that I still keep (and that probably are going to sound crackly because of all the dust and moisture and wobbling that have collected throughout the years) to try out if there is a difference.
Part of the "vinyl is better than digital" thing partly seems to be a misunderstanding regarding changes in the music industry when they switched to CD. It _is_ actually true that an album originally released on vinyl is typically better than a later CD re-release because it probably has better dynamic range, but that's not due to the CD format, that's due to the industry deciding around that time that "louder" was more important than range.
pretty much. Cds are better then vinyl, but there is a catch the loudness war. which means even if the cds are better, they are not due to the way music is mastered sadly. Its a strange situation that because of the vinyl limitation the louder is more important then dynamic range does not translate well to vinyl. vinyl is better cause of it
+ShinobuBlade Digital music is objectively worse than Vinyl because of the way the data is recorded. On vinyl, you record the sound as is in analog, but CDs are recorded digitally using a compression algorithm (digital signals can only approximate analog signals due to them only having two possible values). This means that what you write on the CD is no the signal of the record, it is a destructive binary representation of an approximation of the original sound, meaning that the quality is objectively worse (you have lost a lot of signal amplitude values between the poles).
Except if the sampling frequency is at least double the maximum frequency of the recorded sound-wave, the compression is loss-less, and the reconstructed wave is mathematically proven to be identical to the original one. The loss of quality is not an inherent limitation of the binary system, it's a cost saving device.
There are different format types of digital records, some are using lossless compression (WAV, FLAC - Free Lossless Audio Codec) and some lossy compression (MP3). Record played from vinyl usually will be better quality than MP3 record. MP3 format became popular because of Internet, those files are smaller so easier to send on Internet, nowadays Internet is faster, hard drives are huge so it's better to use FLAC format to store your records.
I'm pretty much devoted to vinyl, but it's not neccessarily because of the quality. For me it's more of the experience and connection the listener gains when dealing with a physical copy of the song or album. Now a days millions upon millions of songs are available at just a few clicks away (Which is by no means a bad thing!), but for me there's this massive disconnect that I think the artist who created the media wouldn't appreciate - considering how much time he or she put into that project. For some people, months worth of work and several thousands of dollars went into some of the albums being released today, and I just think we owe it to the artist to support and enjoy that media in a way that reflects how much work was put into it. And not just a simple click and a small $0.99 donation. For instance, Kamasi Washington's "The Epic" is this truly epic 3 hour jazz goliath of an album that had so many people put work into and I have *zero* idea how it was funded, but it was. And every song is worth so much more than $0.99. Which is why I buy vinyl - To connect with and support the artists who truly deserve the support, with a significantly larger contribution to their art.
its seriously blowing my mind that its basically vibrations that we're hearing. i had a really hard time comprehending that exactly for the longest time. i really get it now
I really enjoy vinyl despite growing up in the era of cassettes. I do think they have personality. They do change over time. I like them in part because I love tinkering and I loved that I was able to pick up a turntable for $10 at goodwill and all it needed was a new $4 belt. But I like restoring what I think will become historic. I think the fact that the art on them is so large and includes edges that are usually cut off of cd covers is wonderful. I kind to keep things in my home that are useful or beautiful. Seeing the large nice art is gorgeous. But having physical media is something special now a days. For so long I only streamed music. With only a small CD collection fom my teen years. But I’ve witnessed record labels and artis pull their songs off of streaming platforms. I started collecting. Cds, vinyl, and cassettes. They are mine and also I like the personality of different media. Sometimes I find notes in the lyric books in CDs. I love listening to a second hand tape and sing able to tell what song was their favorite 😂physical media is underrated.
I grew up with vinyl, then reel to reel, onto 8-tracks, then cassette, CD and now digital. We didn’t have the plethora of artists like today with releases in the 100’s everyday, so when an artist you really liked released an “album”, it was magical! Just the anticipation after hearing the release date was a good thing cause you knew whatever it was would be worth it. And when you finally got the long waited for treasure in your sweaty little paws, there was a moment of reverence. Peeling off the wrapper, admiring the artwork, checking out the order of the tracks, lyrics (if lucky) and then you’d throw that bad boy on the turntable, let the needle drop, crank it up, and appreciate the artistry of said band, all while daydreaming as you read every inch of the liner notes. You knew who produced it, who did the art, who the players were, what equipment they used, what catering company fed them, wheee they recorded it, who the engineer was, who they thanked, and some weird, funny nuggets of gold were etched in memoriam. Those were the days/nights and we audiophiles/music nerds treasure them. Glad you’ve developed an appreciation for the art of vinyl.
I like vinyl records because they force you to actually take some time to listen to what's being played, therefore making you more aware of and involved with the music. This makes them seem closer and more personal to me. Digital music and CDs aren't lesser, but they are different and in my opinion don't have the same intimate emotional quality as records.
Difference between digital and vinyl: Digital music is put on when you wanna casually listen to something whilst doing something else, its easy, quick and plays endlessly in a playlist. Its to make everyday life less boring and its used to remove noise and silence. Vinyl is put on when you wanna sit there and actively listen to every note being played and every word being sung by your favorite artists, putting on a vinyl whilst your busy is pretty pointless.
True, unless the music being played is equally pointless. There is a category of music called "Easy Listening" like, for example, the 101 Strings Orchestra. People buy and play them without a desire to listen to them critically - just to perfume the air with a pleasant sound. And in that case, it makes no difference which format is being used.
There is a difference. With vinyl (or CD or other physical formats) it is a deliberate act to put on a specific album or piece of music. With digital (yes I know CD is digital, however it is a physical format so shares that property with vinyl) I open my favourite music player on my computer and generally hit the shuffle button. I am more likely to use music in digital files for background, but when I listen to a record I always play it to specifically listen to the music.
I'm no audiophile and I prefer the convenience of digital. However, most digitally [re]mastered recordings have the audio compression all messed up and so they either lack fidelity or [less common] fail to use the full amplitude range. So you end up with muddy junk with the sensation of loudness or they fail to use the full bit range wasting resolution.[256.becomes 64 if you don't use those top 192 bits] Vinyl tends to balance this much better, though I don't know if it is inherent to vinyl or that the ease of digital has encouraged cheap and sloppy production.
I learned about this last year and forgot half about sound waves because it was boring when we learned about it, but this is suddenly interesting when you drag my music interest into it. Magic I tell you.
Yes, a vinyl record has a personality. Even 2 record pressed one after the other on the same stamper a few seconds a part will not be 100% the same. Each time you play a record you are hearing a culmination of the stamping process and the effect of every needle drop that came before this one. It also takes into account dust, handling and even how the record had been cleaned.
As many others have mentioned, this video's explanation lacks a visual component. But what I really struggle to understand is a record engraving's ability to reproduce complex combinations of sounds. I can pretty much understand a groove recreating a given frequency range, but how it can translate the typical mix of instruments is something I still haven't grasped. Any videos tackling this aspect are welcome.
The most dramatic illustration of the difference between vinyl and cds for me came when I was able to compare the vinyl and cd versions of the Chicago 16 album. The cd was so much *cleaner*, with none of the background noise that records (and even cassettes) usually have.
well it always depends on your setup also. An old needle and scratched vinyl with thin and old loudspeaker cables combined with an old set of speakers is not a fair comparison to a digital "perfect" condition
@@hughharsher Not an issue here. I was careful to not scratch up the record, and I played it on multiple stereo systems. I liked the album and played it a lot--I was very familiar with the sound of the album on vinyl. Also, there are some dramatic pauses in the music when nothing is playing, as well as some sparse instrumentation in some places. One of those pauses is in the first ten seconds of the album, and I was used to hearing the background noise of the vinyl and the 'hum' of the turntable. But with the cd, these pauses are absolutely silent, with no background noise, which was in stark contrast to the vinyl I had been used to.
You showed a transverse a wave when sound waves are longitudinal. You say recordings are identical but this is not true as harmonics and high frequencies are removed before digitisation. These are the nuances the audiophiles recon they can hear. Also there are other things like dual digital to analogue converters compared to single digital analogue converters that audiophiles recon they can hear.
its so mindblowing to me how these work. like just the slightest difference of grooves changes everything. the instruments sound different, the voices of the band, everything. i know it explains it but it kind of still leaves me wondering HOW IT WORKS lol,
I prefer vinyl much, much more , because it's natural sounding and is 100% lossless! but I listen to cds as well, because there quiet noise free! but i have copies of albums on both formats which I play both! but I always chose vinyl more! that's just my personal opinion, yours maybe completely different, which I respect! everyone has personal preferences, and it's great to have them!
Natural sounding means rolling off the treble which creates the "digititis" that comes from regular step ladder DACs. Too much detail makes the track sound artificial and like you're listening to a recording because in real life we don't hear all that detail (say, unless you're sitting front row at a classical orchestra concert). It's made for relaxing and gives it a meaty presentation because vocals become center stage. Digital is better in it's dynamic range, etc. but the mastering of the music is really what matters as most modern music is recording pretty poorly, too loud and very treble tastic to give the fake impression of more detail.
Vinyl isn't lossless though. The stamping plates and the vinyl itself wear out with every single use. You're literally losing information every single time you use them
Well, yeah, that's exactly what I said. It's a (comparitively) lossless method of recording and data transfer, but the medium itself is very prone to information loss
You don't need a needle, magnet or amplification to hear sound from a record. Roll a piece of paper into a cone shape and then spin the record at 33 rpm. Place the tip of the paper cone into the grove and you will hear the recording. It won't be loud but it will be recognizably clear. It works because the little hills and valleys in the grove are vibrating the paper cone the same way as when the record was recorded as the sound wave moved a diaphragm that cause a device to cut into the record.. Kinda like the same principle when you put a battery in backwards ant the toy moves in reverse.
This was really interesting! For me, I use digital a lot when I'm hanging out in the house, cleaning, working out, driving, etc. But when I want to sit down and really enjoy something, I go for vinyl. Specifically if I'm listening to jazz or blues. I just prefer the act of getting the vinyl out, hearing the scratch of that needle, and watching the disc spin while listening. I don't know if one is "superior" but I think they fit different circumstances.
I know that most hipsters these days are all about vinyl records but truth being told, there is a difference between a song on vinyl and one in digital format..and if you treat music as a relaxing tool, and you like spending a few minutes everyday relaxing and listening to a track , trust me, when you hear the difference..you won't want to go back to digital
Exactly! Didn't grow up with vinyl, wasn't a fan either, until I realized that I'd like to listen to older songs which were more popular when I was a young boy, but listening to them on digital seemed inappropriate. I felt kinda disconnected. I feel like that with most music nowadays, it's just quantity over quality. And man, it's like you said, once you listen to records, anything else is meh.. just to pass the time.
Just bought a turntable to play vinyls left by my late grandfather. This is such a motley collection of records from The Beetles to (ex-)Yugoslavian and Greek pop songs. How amazing it is to listen to this in 2021!
"At the end of the day it all comes down to what music you enjoy and how you enjoy listening to it" Is this a science channel or a children soccer league where everyone gets a medal?
Well I love listening to the vinyl, after so many years of not having physical media I realized how much I wasn’t getting into my music the last few weeks of getting a player and some new and old ones. Firs there is Norma Jean “all hail”, Silverstein “dead Reflections”, and today I added in hundred suns “The Prestaliis”. Those are really my meditation records. Not that I don’t really meditate to them all in some way. But my older ones, the oak ridge boys, Marty robins, merele Hager, bob wills, Kenny Rogers, and patsy cline just really brings back memories of growing up. Especially all the oak ridge boys. I had a lot of their cassettes and records growing up and still today remains one of my all time favorites.
You missed the whole point of the analog vs digital mantra. The records are identical BEFORE they are recorded into their final media. Digital music is an approximation of the original tape because, just like PWM, a digital signal can ONLY APPROXIMATE an analog signal, since you only work with two values in a finite amount of time, in contrast with analog, which has infinite values in between the poles. Britlab has gone quite shait since BBC bought them. I also miss Hannah Fry from this show.
It's really how you define "finer", vinyl doesn't require quantization but such mechanical process will produce errors we try to correct (e.g. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_equalization). So does a hi-fi station playing a CD, mathematically speaking you will get sine waves on your speakers. To answer the question, we should make a comparison over several different points like equalization and SNR. It's not obvious.
What you saying makes no sense, the digital representing the original with maximum detail, the resolution can be higher than what the laws of universe allows for analog. The bumps on the virtual sinewave are so small, the only way you will know about it is by using mathematics.
if only there were a video that actually shows this process as it happens, instead of listening to one guy (who doesnt seem to fully understand what he's talking about ether because of over simplification of key parts here) some video proof or examples of this process would be very appreciated .
Loved this video. As someone said, you didn't lean one way or another. For me vinyl is just a lot more fun than any other format na on good equipment can sound amazing.
Its very similar to the certain roads they have across the world where when you drive on them at a specific speed, the ridges they have etched into the asphalt create a tune. The ridges are edtched at different depths into the ground to create different tones. Not all the way the same but similar.
I'm here because of all the Jazz Cafe music mixes, there's always a record playing in the loop video and the curiosity finally peaked. Dr Stone looks pretty good though
I have both and the best song to test your speakers is School by Supertramp. I used to bring it to stereo equipment stores and a couple of them went out and got it. Both the record and the digital version are equally good at testing stereo equipment. Try it, it has a really full dynamic range
What!? --- a CD and a vinyl record pulled from the same master tape, at least at the beginning, are mathematically identical--- That is TOTAL bollocks!!!! the most bollocks statement I've ever heard on youtube, there are so many ways that is bollocks, I can't imagine how more bollocks a statement could be! Vinyl recordings always sound very different even to the most casual listener, they aren't constrained by the 44.1 sampling rate or the 16 bit depth, which is good, but they introduce loads of additional noise, which is bad. Saying they are 'mathematically identical' is crazyness
3:20 I think the small charges of electricity the needle creates when riding along the grove also creates sound, so if you put your ear close to the cartridge holding the needle you can hear the music. You might need to fact check me on that, but i think that's how it works.
I've never had a vinyl record. I've listened to music a variety of ways over the many years I've been listening to music though. Mainly CDs and radio when I was a kid, then during my middle school and high school years I had an mp3 player. Now when I listen to music it's often online using whatever device I happen to be using at the time (computer, smartphone, etc.) but I do still occasionally listen to radio and CDs too like I did as a kid.
I'm guessing music / vinyl snobbery is like anything else, mostly imagined to give a sense of self importance to the snob. Growing up I listened to both cassette tape and vinyl, both incredibly easy to damage and lose. I much prefer the ease of use that comes with digital files.
I am pretty young, and I grew up with CDs, but I still can't help but prefer cassette tape and vinyl. Why? I don't know, might be because I'm interested in history and stuff, and I have some memories of my dad almost always playing the cassette tapes, as he's a rather nostalgic guy as well. Vinyls, though... I like them and they're for aesthetic.
Maxx B I would argue that an mp3 at 128k to 320k is going to sound ok given what most people listen to those files on. That being said I like digital and analog sources alike, but I prefer both to be high quality such as 24bit/96k or higher flac files or 180 gram or higher weight virgin vinyl pressed at high end stampers such as mofi, QRP and the likes. Then there's your equipment. I listen to my vinyl with a cartridge that cost more than most people spend on a home theatre. You come off as a clueless person that insults that which he can't afford or doesn't understand! Every person who has ever heard vinyl on my system does find it to be a great format. It's not cheap, but it is very special!
Its fun and all hearing the information about Vinyl Disc but I think it would be better if you include visualization/video clips about every point you giving us
I can hear the difference between compressed and uncompressed with a good system. It's a pretty obvious difference when comparing to something like 320 kbps.
^ thats why i use uncompressed flac anyways, when i possibly get good equipment in the future it will be nice to have. currently i just have some good earphones (apples regular white ones sound so shit after switching)
I prefer putting on a record for just sitting down and relaxing whilst listening to it, and the little pops and crackling adds a pleasant feeling to it. CDs are good for a car or for generally being more busy and they can sound nice, but the worst is digital streaming which gets interrupted by system updates or having to pay for the service and not the music. People are generally more likely to remember the first vinyl album they bought (or the first CD) than the first mp3 they downloaded.
still seems like magic to me. i mean i watch an equaliser of a song and all the different peaks and treble, theres so much happening, to represent that all in one bumpy groove which can pick up multiple pitch of many isntruments, vocals, drums etc... all by a specific bump/bumps which it can only travel over in a linear way... if there were many needles and heads on a record player, each playing the track of music , i could believe it, but to have them all in one track and not hear something that sounds like a banshee... still magic and i dont understand
I like music playing form a record, just looking at it spinning. But I enjoy modern ways of listening to music too, whether I rip the music from a vinyl or a CD, I stick it on my iPod and keep on listening. Best of both worlds.
Listening to vinyl makes you listen more and have a better experience. Like writing a letter with a fountain pen or taking a picture with an old camera, you appreciate it more.
I assume that people tend to be kn a different headspace when listening to records compared to digital media. You have to be very intentional, not shake the ground (not be too active), and have to remain somewhat present to flip the record after a relatively short amount of time. All the inconvenience lends itself to less distracted listening, and listening to songs sequentially (more often) rather than just skipping from one "best song" to the next. That is all just my two cents though!
I mainly use digital music and streaming, but I do think that there is something about playing a vinyl record. While digital is WAY more practical, vinyl just seems to have more character. If I play some background music in the living room, it's probably gonna be vinyl. Anywhere else though, it's all digital. All day.
I got a limited edition (Only 2000 and something of them in the entire world) record of the soundtrack of Thunderbirds two years ago and finally got a record player the other day and am listening to it while I watch this now
One thing to remember speakers just amplify the sound that comes from the record when the needles is ran through the groves. If you play the record with out sound or take any needle, like a safety pin, the same sound still comes from it.
There's a lot going on between the output of the cartridge and the speaker that wasn't mentioned, specifically the application of the RIAA curve. I feel the genius of RIAA curve should've been mentioned as it transformed the record industry.
Man this is just something I would never have thought of, i guess i get the part of the recording, but the physics of how music is played just blew my mind.....the more i learn about these "old" technology the more I am amazed of the iconic inventors of days gone by.
It seems crazy until I really thought about it. If a sound is just waves, like a ripple in a pond, then you can for example set a point from the center of the ripple, and record when each waves hits the point and graph it out, both the height of the wave (amplitude) and the length between each peak of each wave (frequency). And then connect the dots on the graph and it would look like a very basic waveform. Now you have the data for that ripple which you can reconstruct it precisely. A sound is just a very complex version of a ripple in a pond. It's like a fractal ripple, with many ripples inside other ripples to make a unique sound
3:49 Vinyl records do not necessarily sound "better" than digital recordings. Certainly, I think digital recordings sound closer to the actual sound of the music than do analogue ones. However, vinyl records do sound different from digital music - they have what many people describe as a "warmth to the sound", which is lost on CDs and other digital formats. This "warmth" is actually a slight distortion in the sound, but to many audiophiles, this sound makes the recording sound more pleasant and therefore "warmer" than digital recordings.
I've been wanting to know this as I'm a DJ my self, for the last question I'd say Free - Kanashimi O Moyashite. It's a brilliant track and also I prefer Vynil.
How the hell were the smart enough to figure this out way back when. I can’t even wrap my head around a scratch in a disk will play back an identical sound
Agreed. I came here for answers.
@Wizzykin thats easy, the earbuds have tiny speakers in it which receives bluetooth signals, those signals are turned to electrical signals for your speakers which basically mimicks your eardrums, for every sound, the speakers mimicks the vibration to your ear, which your brain processes it into sound.
Vinyls and telegraphs have baffled me for years.
@@BingDwenDwen 😂😂😂😂😂😂
well, that's what your eardrum does. and you are able to differentiate between multiple sounds, all of them hitting the same eardrum (well, two eardrums, unless you're unlucky). still hard to believe it's that simple, though.
I don’t know about you, but I for some reason searched for this.
i searched it because artist selling this thing for their album instead of cd...I thought vinyl is analog cd thing that play sound...and im really dumb and shocked that people still listen to a song with this flat vinyl...need to learn about turntables after this lmao
same
for me it was just a random 3am thought
I did too lol
I was playing red dead redemption
i’ve listened to every word and i still have no clue on how it works LOL
HeroesIQ haven’t even finished the video yet, but I feel your words
Same lol
lmao fucking facts
Same...I was expecting images to be able to understand what he was saying 😅
y'all, English probably isn't your first language lmfaooo
What doesn't make any sense to me at all is how a single speaker can produce the sound of a guitar, bass, drums and vocals at the same time. Just blows my mind how does one speaker vibrate in a way to produce the sounds of many things coherently lol
Magic of science.
Your ears are only one membrane (okay, two working in stereo) that vibrates in response to the sound that comes into contact with it. Your brain is just really good at hearing all these different frequencies at once and figuring out which ones belong together and which ones are seperate--kind of like how your brain is really good at figuring out which colors belong to one object and which colors are background. The speaker only has to produce the same vibration that your ear will experience; it's your brain that is tricked into differentiating the different frequencies in that sound image into guitars and voices and whatnot. Think of the speaker as spoofing your eardrum.
I read that and thought hell yea that’s pretty impressive and I have no idea how that works. But the truth is one speaker doesn’t do that very well at all in most cases. A good stereo system usually has several speakers that all have their own job, tweeters do the highs, mid range obviously do the midrange, subs do the bass.
Sound waves, what's more fascinating is how our brains is able to differentiate the sound between a specific type of guitar and a piano.
Matthew Watson thanks! That summed up what I was looking for
I got into collecting vinyl because I missed having something physical to collect for my music. I went fully MP3 many years ago, selling all of my CDs and only listening to digital music.
But there's just something nice about owning your favourite albums on vinyl. The artwork looks great when it is that big, you get gatefold sleeves that look amazing, limited editions and coloured vinyl, the little ritual of starting your player and placing the stylus and just the sheer joy of having something physical to represent your musical interests.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that it isn't all about if it sounds "better" or not. It's much more than that.
Plus I also kind of like the way it sounds too. Maybe not necessarily better, but just nicer.
My car still doesn't have an aux port, so I just collect CDs instead. For me, collecting CDs is better than collecting vinyl, since the music's bass is better conserved.
I collect CD's mainly because I dont have a proper turntable and because i find that alot of music sounds warmer on CD's than on vinyl. Specially metal/rock music. But id love to invest in a proper turntable sometime and really dig into LP's.
I wanna say I am the same as you Dan Xepha, and to those who say you cant tell a difference..you need a nice system to really bring everything together.. and as far as bass...I have some records that bang, old school stuff that has crazy bass...
I keep CDs. They're so shiny and so convenient. The only reason vinyl can sound better is because the source is physical. Get a good release and the difference between vinyl and CD vanishes. The best sounding version of Thriller is the SACD. Also, the budget of getting a turntable and building a sound system is off the rails for me.
Dan Xepha I was born and raised in an analog world, and only bought vinyl for a long time. That was until my whole record collection was stolen about 20 years ago. Yeah, I'm old! I've been exclusively digital for a long time now but, hell, I'm getting the vinyl bug. I won't replace my music, or duplicate my collection; that would be too expensive for me; but I would like to add a turntable and some vinyl to the mix. I do miss albums.
I understand everything this guy said in the video...
Yet, I still have absolutely no idea how vinyl records work.
Shift Happens Radio I’m sorry I’m super late, but I understand it to a extent.
Vibrations make scratches into the record.
If you put a needle into those same scratches, they make the same noise as the thing that made the scratches.
Long story short, needle make scratches, scratches make noise
@@jotarokujo-starplatinum6286 What I want to understand is how exactly those scratches translate precisely into what was recorded
Hypnotoad it’s kinda like how people say water has memory.
If you scratch a noise into a object using vibrations and a needle, the exact same vibrations will come out if a needle is put in again.
The same vibrations used to indent it will be the noises coming out, it would be weird for another noise to come out. The needle saves the noise, and is what also brings It out. Like if you scratched into a vinyl *hey my name is frog* , the scratches if went through again will say *hey my name is frog*.
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@@jotarokujo-starplatinum6286 Heroes always come late to save the day!! Better late then never!!
For years now i had always been wondering how does it work? But I didn't get around to it until today at 1am.. Thank you for enlightening me JoJo.
I made a vinyl disc with grooves in 2 minutes.
I think that's a record.
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How much did it cost?? 😂 lol
Cool band man, "Grooves in 2 minutes" is a good name
It blows my mind that every sound,.every infinite combination of sound, can be cut into a groove. You could have Elvis singing along with a car horn and glass breaking, and there is a pattern that will duplicate that exactly.
Same here, I don't understand how several waves can be recorded in a single groove. Also what are the chances that we have the right materials on earth to allow such ideas to be feasible.. #mindblown
@@techdesigner9741 we don't need chances and odds when we presuppose Gods existence. 🙏
It sounds crazy until you realize what a sound is, which is a wave. The waves can be recorded visually and then read again to produce the recorded wave. The waves are actually 3-dimensional like a sphere, but if you cut a sphere in half you see it as a 2D line which is what a waveform is. When thinking of a 3D bubble expanding outward, imagine dropping a rock into a pond with a mirror above it. The water displacements is what happens to the air. The vibration of air is what makes sound, because you need a medium to create the waves in. So each sound, whether a fart or Elvis singing is just a unique set of ripples that move air around. That's why any sound can be recorded because it's just different waveforms. It is really interesting
@@Ice-916 no
@@Ice-916 based presup
i still don't understand how the different bumps and depth of the grove contain the sounds of voices, horns, pianos and so forth. this explained nothing.
Then find a different video
@@lordcrowe9392 what a useless comment. no shit dude
@CT2507 that’s what i’m saying lol
no sound is exactly the same, they will all be translated into a different sound wave, it's like notes where every note will technically be the same, the sound waves will take in consideration everything while translating it; think of it as if writing the music's notes was like taking notes in a class vs the sounds waves that more comparable to someone re-transcribing every word, sounds, pause, punctuation, etc of the lecture. Hope that helps you understand!
@@nourklb no. i still dont understand how you can put sound into plastic.
No matter how many times anyone explains this to me it still feels like some type of amazing sorcery. I can't get my head round why it works. It feels unbelievable, yet it is everywhere. Super amazing science that twists my melon!
How vinyl records work is just so mind blowing to me.
It's a miracle that we have discovered that certain vibrations of a cutting stylus can produce bumpy grooves in wax/resin material, and those grooves can vibrate a needle to reproduce those exact (well, at least roughly) sounds recorded in the disc.
I an electrical engineer that grew up with vinyl records and never had the itch to learn (shame on me; aren't engineers supposed to be so intellectually curious that their findings out of that curiosity turn into real-world solutions to normal Joes/Janes?) how in the world a sound coming out of somebody's mouth or instrument resonance box was recorded for the eternity in a piece of plastic!!! And, all of a sudden, after years hooked into MP3 and digital streaming I am having this itch to go back to the "old" music listening experience and I am spending money in loudspeakers and about to get into a turntable to playback those LPs that I still keep (and that probably are going to sound crackly because of all the dust and moisture and wobbling that have collected throughout the years) to try out if there is a difference.
It's insane
I enjoy listening to audio books about the Irish Famine on my potato.
John Collins you win the internet
Brilliant, but due to the Irish Famine, they ate all the potatoes, so your "audio potato book" is a paradox. Boom!!! lol
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I'm a vinyl guy and I'm glad this video stayed neutral, cba with arguing
that's loser talk son
cba getting destroyed by cd master race you mean
memeboy 3000 I have CDs too, and spotify. They all have their strengths and weaknesses
yeh true
CDs are better.
Part of the "vinyl is better than digital" thing partly seems to be a misunderstanding regarding changes in the music industry when they switched to CD. It _is_ actually true that an album originally released on vinyl is typically better than a later CD re-release because it probably has better dynamic range, but that's not due to the CD format, that's due to the industry deciding around that time that "louder" was more important than range.
pretty much. Cds are better then vinyl, but there is a catch the loudness war. which means even if the cds are better, they are not due to the way music is mastered sadly.
Its a strange situation that because of the vinyl limitation the louder is more important then dynamic range does not translate well to vinyl. vinyl is better cause of it
+ShinobuBlade Digital music is objectively worse than Vinyl because of the way the data is recorded. On vinyl, you record the sound as is in analog, but CDs are recorded digitally using a compression algorithm (digital signals can only approximate analog signals due to them only having two possible values). This means that what you write on the CD is no the signal of the record, it is a destructive binary representation of an approximation of the original sound, meaning that the quality is objectively worse (you have lost a lot of signal amplitude values between the poles).
Except if the sampling frequency is at least double the maximum frequency of the recorded sound-wave, the compression is loss-less, and the reconstructed wave is mathematically proven to be identical to the original one. The loss of quality is not an inherent limitation of the binary system, it's a cost saving device.
Amount of bass is one thing but usually that bass headphones makes some bass noise instead of dynamic sound full of details.
There are different format types of digital records, some are using lossless compression (WAV, FLAC - Free Lossless Audio Codec) and some lossy compression (MP3). Record played from vinyl usually will be better quality than MP3 record. MP3 format became popular because of Internet, those files are smaller so easier to send on Internet, nowadays Internet is faster, hard drives are huge so it's better to use FLAC format to store your records.
I'm pretty much devoted to vinyl, but it's not neccessarily because of the quality. For me it's more of the experience and connection the listener gains when dealing with a physical copy of the song or album. Now a days millions upon millions of songs are available at just a few clicks away (Which is by no means a bad thing!), but for me there's this massive disconnect that I think the artist who created the media wouldn't appreciate - considering how much time he or she put into that project. For some people, months worth of work and several thousands of dollars went into some of the albums being released today, and I just think we owe it to the artist to support and enjoy that media in a way that reflects how much work was put into it. And not just a simple click and a small $0.99 donation.
For instance, Kamasi Washington's "The Epic" is this truly epic 3 hour jazz goliath of an album that had so many people put work into and I have *zero* idea how it was funded, but it was. And every song is worth so much more than $0.99. Which is why I buy vinyl - To connect with and support the artists who truly deserve the support, with a significantly larger contribution to their art.
Unfortunately, artists do not get much more than 0.99 from the vinyl as the production of the physical vinyl and it's package costs a lot of money.
its seriously blowing my mind that its basically vibrations that we're hearing. i had a really hard time comprehending that exactly for the longest time. i really get it now
too much info crammed into such a small vid. id love to see a longer vid on this precisely
Andrew Harper I’m a little late but the tv show how it’s made had an episode on how vinyl records are made
If you play the vinyl and turn of the speaker, you can hear the music if you put your ear ringt next to the stylus.
Thats cool :)
I'm convinced it's sorcery or pure magic.
I really enjoy vinyl despite growing up in the era of cassettes. I do think they have personality. They do change over time. I like them in part because I love tinkering and I loved that I was able to pick up a turntable for $10 at goodwill and all it needed was a new $4 belt. But I like restoring what I think will become historic. I think the fact that the art on them is so large and includes edges that are usually cut off of cd covers is wonderful. I kind to keep things in my home that are useful or beautiful. Seeing the large nice art is gorgeous. But having physical media is something special now a days. For so long I only streamed music. With only a small CD collection fom my teen years. But I’ve witnessed record labels and artis pull their songs off of streaming platforms. I started collecting. Cds, vinyl, and cassettes. They are mine and also I like the personality of different media. Sometimes I find notes in the lyric books in CDs. I love listening to a second hand tape and sing able to tell what song was their favorite 😂physical media is underrated.
I grew up with vinyl, then reel to reel, onto 8-tracks, then cassette, CD and now digital. We didn’t have the plethora of artists like today with releases in the 100’s everyday, so when an artist you really liked released an “album”, it was magical! Just the anticipation after hearing the release date was a good thing cause you knew whatever it was would be worth it. And when you finally got the long waited for treasure in your sweaty little paws, there was a moment of reverence. Peeling off the wrapper, admiring the artwork, checking out the order of the tracks, lyrics (if lucky) and then you’d throw that bad boy on the turntable, let the needle drop, crank it up, and appreciate the artistry of said band, all while daydreaming as you read every inch of the liner notes. You knew who produced it, who did the art, who the players were, what equipment they used, what catering company fed them, wheee they recorded it, who the engineer was, who they thanked, and some weird, funny nuggets of gold were etched in memoriam. Those were the days/nights and we audiophiles/music nerds treasure them. Glad you’ve developed an appreciation for the art of vinyl.
I was about to sleep when I suddenly had thoughts about how a vinyl record works.
I love vinyl because by digging in the 2nd hand bins i discover so much music I love!
I like vinyl records because they force you to actually take some time to listen to what's being played, therefore making you more aware of and involved with the music. This makes them seem closer and more personal to me. Digital music and CDs aren't lesser, but they are different and in my opinion don't have the same intimate emotional quality as records.
Couldnt have phrased it better myself
Ok, Admit it.. you particularly searched for this and it wasn't recommended.
Difference between digital and vinyl:
Digital music is put on when you wanna casually listen to something whilst doing something else, its easy, quick and plays endlessly in a playlist. Its to make everyday life less boring and its used to remove noise and silence.
Vinyl is put on when you wanna sit there and actively listen to every note being played and every word being sung by your favorite artists, putting on a vinyl whilst your busy is pretty pointless.
True, unless the music being played is equally pointless. There is a category of music called "Easy Listening" like, for example, the 101 Strings Orchestra. People buy and play them without a desire to listen to them critically - just to perfume the air with a pleasant sound. And in that case, it makes no difference which format is being used.
mrmoo Um I see no difference. Either one will work with the other.
There is a difference. With vinyl (or CD or other physical formats) it is a deliberate act to put on a specific album or piece of music. With digital (yes I know CD is digital, however it is a physical format so shares that property with vinyl) I open my favourite music player on my computer and generally hit the shuffle button. I am more likely to use music in digital files for background, but when I listen to a record I always play it to specifically listen to the music.
Not really a difference more like a preference on how you intentially use both formats
mrmoo i agree lol
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I'm no audiophile and I prefer the convenience of digital. However, most digitally [re]mastered recordings have the audio compression all messed up and so they either lack fidelity or [less common] fail to use the full amplitude range. So you end up with muddy junk with the sensation of loudness or they fail to use the full bit range wasting resolution.[256.becomes 64 if you don't use those top 192 bits] Vinyl tends to balance this much better, though I don't know if it is inherent to vinyl or that the ease of digital has encouraged cheap and sloppy production.
I just can't wrap around my head that a bunch of bumps on a piece of Vinyl can play back music to me.
I learned about this last year and forgot half about sound waves because it was boring when we learned about it, but this is suddenly interesting when you drag my music interest into it. Magic I tell you.
Yes, a vinyl record has a personality. Even 2 record pressed one after the other on the same stamper a few seconds a part will not be 100% the same. Each time you play a record you are hearing a culmination of the stamping process and the effect of every needle drop that came before this one. It also takes into account dust, handling and even how the record had been cleaned.
As many others have mentioned, this video's explanation lacks a visual component. But what I really struggle to understand is a record engraving's ability to reproduce complex combinations of sounds. I can pretty much understand a groove recreating a given frequency range, but how it can translate the typical mix of instruments is something I still haven't grasped. Any videos tackling this aspect are welcome.
The most dramatic illustration of the difference between vinyl and cds for me came when I was able to compare the vinyl and cd versions of the Chicago 16 album. The cd was so much *cleaner*, with none of the background noise that records (and even cassettes) usually have.
well it always depends on your setup also. An old needle and scratched vinyl with thin and old loudspeaker cables combined with an old set of speakers is not a fair comparison to a digital "perfect" condition
@@hughharsher Not an issue here. I was careful to not scratch up the record, and I played it on multiple stereo systems. I liked the album and played it a lot--I was very familiar with the sound of the album on vinyl. Also, there are some dramatic pauses in the music when nothing is playing, as well as some sparse instrumentation in some places. One of those pauses is in the first ten seconds of the album, and I was used to hearing the background noise of the vinyl and the 'hum' of the turntable. But with the cd, these pauses are absolutely silent, with no background noise, which was in stark contrast to the vinyl I had been used to.
This question randomly get into my mind… this is the reason why I’m here.
You showed a transverse a wave when sound waves are longitudinal. You say recordings are identical but this is not true as harmonics and high frequencies are removed before digitisation. These are the nuances the audiophiles recon they can hear. Also there are other things like dual digital to analogue converters compared to single digital analogue converters that audiophiles recon they can hear.
Plus, higher and lower frequencies are sometimes cut from (e.g.) mp3 files to keep the file size down.
its so mindblowing to me how these work. like just the slightest difference of grooves changes everything. the instruments sound different, the voices of the band, everything. i know it explains it but it kind of still leaves me wondering HOW IT WORKS lol,
I prefer vinyl much, much more , because it's natural sounding and is 100% lossless! but I listen to cds as well, because there quiet noise free! but i have copies of albums on both formats which I play both! but I always chose vinyl more! that's just my personal opinion, yours maybe completely different, which I respect! everyone has personal preferences, and it's great to have them!
Natural sounding means rolling off the treble which creates the "digititis" that comes from regular step ladder DACs. Too much detail makes the track sound artificial and like you're listening to a recording because in real life we don't hear all that detail (say, unless you're sitting front row at a classical orchestra concert). It's made for relaxing and gives it a meaty presentation because vocals become center stage. Digital is better in it's dynamic range, etc. but the mastering of the music is really what matters as most modern music is recording pretty poorly, too loud and very treble tastic to give the fake impression of more detail.
Vinyl isn't lossless though.
The stamping plates and the vinyl itself wear out with every single use.
You're literally losing information every single time you use them
Well, yeah, that's exactly what I said.
It's a (comparitively) lossless method of recording and data transfer, but the medium itself is very prone to information loss
You don't need a needle, magnet or amplification to hear sound from a record. Roll a piece of paper into a cone shape and then spin the record at 33 rpm. Place the tip of the paper cone into the grove and you will hear the recording. It won't be loud but it will be recognizably clear. It works because the little hills and valleys in the grove are vibrating the paper cone the same way as when the record was recorded as the sound wave moved a diaphragm that cause a device to cut into the record..
Kinda like the same principle when you put a battery in backwards ant the toy moves in reverse.
This was really interesting! For me, I use digital a lot when I'm hanging out in the house, cleaning, working out, driving, etc. But when I want to sit down and really enjoy something, I go for vinyl. Specifically if I'm listening to jazz or blues. I just prefer the act of getting the vinyl out, hearing the scratch of that needle, and watching the disc spin while listening. I don't know if one is "superior" but I think they fit different circumstances.
Genius is the one who invented the thought of putting music in a vinyl record . This video is very informative.
I know that most hipsters these days are all about vinyl records but truth being told, there is a difference between a song on vinyl and one in digital format..and if you treat music as a relaxing tool, and you like spending a few minutes everyday relaxing and listening to a track , trust me, when you hear the difference..you won't want to go back to digital
I like my audio to have high sample rates without white noise and scratching cheers
Have you listen to modern vinyls?
Exactly! Didn't grow up with vinyl, wasn't a fan either, until I realized that I'd like to listen to older songs which were more popular when I was a young boy, but listening to them on digital seemed inappropriate. I felt kinda disconnected. I feel like that with most music nowadays, it's just quantity over quality. And man, it's like you said, once you listen to records, anything else is meh.. just to pass the time.
Çerastes Or if you enjoy the sound of records and how you play them.
Çerastes You do realize that I don't really care, right?
Just bought a turntable to play vinyls left by my late grandfather. This is such a motley collection of records from The Beetles to (ex-)Yugoslavian and Greek pop songs. How amazing it is to listen to this in 2021!
3:13 video starts.
Whoever figured this out is a an absolute Genius. i listened to this whole thing and still don’t bet it will work
"At the end of the day it all comes down to what music you enjoy and how you enjoy listening to it"
Is this a science channel or a children soccer league where everyone gets a medal?
Well I love listening to the vinyl, after so many years of not having physical media I realized how much I wasn’t getting into my music the last few weeks of getting a player and some new and old ones. Firs there is Norma Jean “all hail”, Silverstein “dead Reflections”, and today I added in hundred suns “The Prestaliis”. Those are really my meditation records. Not that I don’t really meditate to them all in some way. But my older ones, the oak ridge boys, Marty robins, merele Hager, bob wills, Kenny Rogers, and patsy cline just really brings back memories of growing up. Especially all the oak ridge boys. I had a lot of their cassettes and records growing up and still today remains one of my all time favorites.
You missed the whole point of the analog vs digital mantra. The records are identical BEFORE they are recorded into their final media. Digital music is an approximation of the original tape because, just like PWM, a digital signal can ONLY APPROXIMATE an analog signal, since you only work with two values in a finite amount of time, in contrast with analog, which has infinite values in between the poles.
Britlab has gone quite shait since BBC bought them. I also miss Hannah Fry from this show.
Both analog and digital imply errors and approximations. Some information will get lost no matter what.
creatiph Analog still provides a much finer aproximation since you're using sine waves instead of square waves to approximate a sinusoid.
It's really how you define "finer", vinyl doesn't require quantization but such mechanical process will produce errors we try to correct (e.g. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_equalization).
So does a hi-fi station playing a CD, mathematically speaking you will get sine waves on your speakers.
To answer the question, we should make a comparison over several different points like equalization and SNR. It's not obvious.
What you saying makes no sense, the digital representing the original with maximum detail, the resolution can be higher than what the laws of universe allows for analog.
The bumps on the virtual sinewave are so small, the only way you will know about it is by using mathematics.
analog signals have infinite values between peaks and troffs, that's how a sine wave works... Go back to high school maths.
This is one of those things my brain physically can't comprehend. Like I get it but it's still so unreal to me
I'm even more astonished how someone came up and successfully created this
if only there were a video that actually shows this process as it happens, instead of listening to one guy (who doesnt seem to fully understand what he's talking about ether because of over simplification of key parts here)
some video proof or examples of this process would be very appreciated .
Still cant picture out what he was talking about. Imagery and video inserts needed.
Loved this video. As someone said, you didn't lean one way or another. For me vinyl is just a lot more fun than any other format na on good equipment can sound amazing.
Its very similar to the certain roads they have across the world where when you drive on them at a specific speed, the ridges they have etched into the asphalt create a tune. The ridges are edtched at different depths into the ground to create different tones. Not all the way the same but similar.
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I'm here because of all the Jazz Cafe music mixes, there's always a record playing in the loop video and the curiosity finally peaked. Dr Stone looks pretty good though
I have both and the best song to test your speakers is School by Supertramp. I used to bring it to stereo equipment stores and a couple of them went out and got it. Both the record and the digital version are equally good at testing stereo equipment. Try it, it has a really full dynamic range
Good video!!!
I never expected that one day I would search for this
What!? --- a CD and a vinyl record pulled from the same master tape, at least at the beginning, are mathematically identical--- That is TOTAL bollocks!!!! the most bollocks statement I've ever heard on youtube, there are so many ways that is bollocks, I can't imagine how more bollocks a statement could be! Vinyl recordings always sound very different even to the most casual listener, they aren't constrained by the 44.1 sampling rate or the 16 bit depth, which is good, but they introduce loads of additional noise, which is bad. Saying they are 'mathematically identical' is crazyness
what are these "additional noises?" did you forget to take care of your records, jamie?
I get how it works but I need this explanation of why the sound still works if I set the record on a flat surface and move a needle around it myself
am i the only one that notices the bong in the background
That's a Chemistry Flask, specifically a schlenk flask, not a bong.
Aloe Juice, that's just a disguise.
Jesus are you in school
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3:20 I think the small charges of electricity the needle creates when riding along the grove also creates sound, so if you put your ear close to the cartridge holding the needle you can hear the music.
You might need to fact check me on that, but i think that's how it works.
That's the actual vibrations of the needle itself!
digital has become so accurate, that the human ear cannot find the difference between analog and digital.
digital has always been accurate. It's 0s and 1s.
Digital is square and boring
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RUclips is 100% digital.
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You seem to be using it for entertainment, yet you describe digital as "square and boring".
I’m very late but when I found this it changed my life
I’ve been playing with the thumbnail for about 7 hours so far
Beatles on vinyl is just the best
George Harrison YES
They do sell Abbey Street on vinyl, just to let you know.
Can you recommend a video that will go into more depth and help me understand how a record produces all of those sounds? Thanks.
I would say most people listen to music through devices that don't do it justice.
I've never had a vinyl record. I've listened to music a variety of ways over the many years I've been listening to music though. Mainly CDs and radio when I was a kid, then during my middle school and high school years I had an mp3 player. Now when I listen to music it's often online using whatever device I happen to be using at the time (computer, smartphone, etc.) but I do still occasionally listen to radio and CDs too like I did as a kid.
I didn’t understand shit...
This question really kept me awake. Thanks for this great explanation!! Now I can sleep again.
I'm guessing music / vinyl snobbery is like anything else, mostly imagined to give a sense of self importance to the snob. Growing up I listened to both cassette tape and vinyl, both incredibly easy to damage and lose. I much prefer the ease of use that comes with digital files.
Poor you.
you sound like the snob here
I am pretty young, and I grew up with CDs, but I still can't help but prefer cassette tape and vinyl. Why? I don't know, might be because I'm interested in history and stuff, and I have some memories of my dad almost always playing the cassette tapes, as he's a rather nostalgic guy as well. Vinyls, though... I like them and they're for aesthetic.
Maxx B I would argue that an mp3 at 128k to 320k is going to sound ok given what most people listen to those files on. That being said I like digital and analog sources alike, but I prefer both to be high quality such as 24bit/96k or higher flac files or 180 gram or higher weight virgin vinyl pressed at high end stampers such as mofi, QRP and the likes. Then there's your equipment. I listen to my vinyl with a cartridge that cost more than most people spend on a home theatre. You come off as a clueless person that insults that which he can't afford or doesn't understand! Every person who has ever heard vinyl on my system does find it to be a great format. It's not cheap, but it is very special!
Its fun and all hearing the information about Vinyl Disc but I think it would be better if you include visualization/video clips about every point you giving us
320kbps mp3 is good enough for me
boy638 nar if your gonna listen to digital it has to be in wav format completely uncompressed
WAV is really big... convert that to lossless FLAC. You don't lose any quality.
that quality of mp3 is indistinguishable from flac for the most part but instruments like drums come out cleaner on flac.
I can hear the difference between compressed and uncompressed with a good system. It's a pretty obvious difference when comparing to something like 320 kbps.
^ thats why i use uncompressed flac anyways, when i possibly get good equipment in the future it will be nice to have. currently i just have some good earphones (apples regular white ones sound so shit after switching)
I prefer putting on a record for just sitting down and relaxing whilst listening to it, and the little pops and crackling adds a pleasant feeling to it. CDs are good for a car or for generally being more busy and they can sound nice, but the worst is digital streaming which gets interrupted by system updates or having to pay for the service and not the music. People are generally more likely to remember the first vinyl album they bought (or the first CD) than the first mp3 they downloaded.
If you wanna skip to where he actually answers the question and doesn’t just talk about him being depressed skip to 2:45
This, and making the first photographs blows my mind. How did they figure this out back then?
i was seriously hoping to learn how stereo lps work.
dislike because of posing as someone who knows but knows nothing .. wasting my time
still seems like magic to me. i mean i watch an equaliser of a song and all the different peaks and treble, theres so much happening, to represent that all in one bumpy groove which can pick up multiple pitch of many isntruments, vocals, drums etc... all by a specific bump/bumps which it can only travel over in a linear way... if there were many needles and heads on a record player, each playing the track of music , i could believe it, but to have them all in one track and not hear something that sounds like a banshee... still magic and i dont understand
Sometimes u can't reveale magic 😂
I like music playing form a record, just looking at it spinning. But I enjoy modern ways of listening to music too, whether I rip the music from a vinyl or a CD, I stick it on my iPod and keep on listening. Best of both worlds.
math.
(Music - Soul) = CDs + mp3 + flac
Me at 2am : wait, how does that work, I need to know NOW
I prefer to listen with my ears
I don't know, I quite enjoyed listening to music with my nose. /s
I tried it once but made me laugh and then I couldn't listen.
Monty Python tried that once. It worked out quite well!
Listening to vinyl makes you listen more and have a better experience. Like writing a letter with a fountain pen or taking a picture with an old camera, you appreciate it more.
Depth of the groove ? nope !
Depth does play a part. Without it you couldn't have stereo.
I assume that people tend to be kn a different headspace when listening to records compared to digital media. You have to be very intentional, not shake the ground (not be too active), and have to remain somewhat present to flip the record after a relatively short amount of time. All the inconvenience lends itself to less distracted listening, and listening to songs sequentially (more often) rather than just skipping from one "best song" to the next.
That is all just my two cents though!
I stopped listening to classical music because the digital sounded fake and hollow.
I mainly use digital music and streaming, but I do think that there is something about playing a vinyl record. While digital is WAY more practical, vinyl just seems to have more character. If I play some background music in the living room, it's probably gonna be vinyl. Anywhere else though, it's all digital. All day.
lmao no clue what he's on about i neED PICTURES
I somehow ended up with more questions than when I started
I got a limited edition (Only 2000 and something of them in the entire world) record of the soundtrack of Thunderbirds two years ago and finally got a record player the other day and am listening to it while I watch this now
One thing to remember speakers just amplify the sound that comes from the record when the needles is ran through the groves. If you play the record with out sound or take any needle, like a safety pin, the same sound still comes from it.
2:55 So that's why in Minecraft you need a diamond to make a jukebox, sweet! :D
There's a lot going on between the output of the cartridge and the speaker that wasn't mentioned, specifically the application of the RIAA curve. I feel the genius of RIAA curve should've been mentioned as it transformed the record industry.
I was searching for something related to digital signal processing.
Man this is just something I would never have thought of, i guess i get the part of the recording, but the physics of how music is played just blew my mind.....the more i learn about these "old" technology the more I am amazed of the iconic inventors of days gone by.
It seems crazy until I really thought about it. If a sound is just waves, like a ripple in a pond, then you can for example set a point from the center of the ripple, and record when each waves hits the point and graph it out, both the height of the wave (amplitude) and the length between each peak of each wave (frequency). And then connect the dots on the graph and it would look like a very basic waveform. Now you have the data for that ripple which you can reconstruct it precisely. A sound is just a very complex version of a ripple in a pond. It's like a fractal ripple, with many ripples inside other ripples to make a unique sound
Well said guy. I have a '59 Wurlitzer jukebox and I also have a vintage Nakamichi home system. Loved the vid!
good explanation you made this process easily understood
Watched Dr Stone and I have been keeping the question of how they can preserve sound in a glass disc. Now the question is solved. Thank you 👏👏👏👏
3:49 Vinyl records do not necessarily sound "better" than digital recordings. Certainly, I think digital recordings sound closer to the actual sound of the music than do analogue ones. However, vinyl records do sound different from digital music - they have what many people describe as a "warmth to the sound", which is lost on CDs and other digital formats. This "warmth" is actually a slight distortion in the sound, but to many audiophiles, this sound makes the recording sound more pleasant and therefore "warmer" than digital recordings.
Thank you for this video, this is exactly the information I was looking for!
I've been wanting to know this as I'm a DJ my self, for the last question I'd say Free - Kanashimi O Moyashite. It's a brilliant track and also I prefer Vynil.